Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Simone Cortesi]

2015-11-13 11:01 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi :
> 2015-11-13 10:48 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>> Vorrei chiedere se esiste interesse nel avere un'istanza nostra di taginfo
>> (intendo con solo dati italiani). Anni fa, David Paleino aveva creato questo
>> servizio, ma attualmente credo che non ci sia più. Visto che Simone aveva
>> scritto qualche giorno fa che ci sarebbe delle risorse server per OSM, mi
>> chiedevo se avesse senso rianimare una versione taginfo per l'Italia.
>>
>> Sarei predisposto di occuparmene.
>>
>
> si sarebbe molto utile, così come riattivare le statistiche che creave
> David sul suo sito ;-)

fantastico! mi sembrano entrambe ottime idee. io vorrei anche
espandere le statistiche, integrandole con gli estratti comunali.

ci vediamo il prossimo fine settimana a Bologna e iniziamo a lavorarci

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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-13 11:28 GMT+01:00  :
> Si,  mi stavo applicando alla chiave Crossing, sulla quale in effetti
> potrebbe essere applicato Barrier:kerb,  che potrei estrarre facilmente con
> Overpass Turbo
>

Con barrier=kerb indichi solo la presenza del cordolo, coi vari valori
di kerb=flush/rised/lowered hai la possibilità di fare una mappatura
molto più dettagliata.

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-13 11:33 GMT+01:00  :
> Oddio,  la soluzione mi  sembra molto dettagliata e nel mio caso utilissimo
> anche a chi vuole poi individuare in dettaglio i punti critici.
> Il limite è che comporta il fatto di tracciare a parte tutti i marciapiedi,
> che è un lavorone.
> Io normalmente segno le strisce pedonali come punto e non come tracciato,  a
> parte i casi delle ciclopedonali con  tracciato proprio
>

Si è vero, ma in questo modo avresti anche la possibilità di
aggiungere altri dettagli tipo la larghezza del marciapiede, di non
indifferente importanza se devi considerare il passaggio della sedia a
ruote.
Concordo sul fatto che sia un lavorone, ma il risultato sarebbe
ottimo, considerato che si potrebbe teoricamente studiare un apposito
sistema di navigazione sulle highway=footway, che escluda gli ostacoli
e preferisca i passaggi adatti, oltre a consentire facilmente
l'individuazione delle barriere (kerb=raised).

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:

> On 11/7/2015 10:18 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
>
>> I find lately that it needs a patched Mapnik, because Mapnik (sensibly)
>> went to a read-only database connection, and one of Phil's stored
>> procedures modifies the database the first time that a shield cluster
>> is requested. One of these times I'll fix it.
>>
>> I'm a little disappointed that none of the 'standard' renderers
>> picked this up.
>>
>
> Phil's demo was an excellent proof of concept of pictorial shields from
> route relations, but isn't something that can be reasonably incorporated
> into a stylesheet as-is.
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/596 is the
> OpenStreetMap Carto issue for shields from relations,
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/508 is the one
> for pictorial shields.
>

There's been a lot of productive talk thus far about potentially moving
this forward, but I'm curious if it makes any difference if we preserve the
existing legends for ref right now, but start rendering the route relations
for the existing style legends where available and just skip shields until
a viable read-only method is developed on the back burner.  Or is the
problem not necessarily depending on shield legends but something more
central?
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Aury88]

Daniele Forsi-2 wrote
> da parte mia sì, io lo troverei molto utile per individuare i valori
> che per errore sono stati scritti in italiano (es. ristorante invece
> di restaurant) e possibili errori di battitura
> 
> scusami la domanda probabilmente stupida, ma questo non è possibile farlo
> anche con il taginfo internazionale?...che la cosa sia scritta in italiano
> in italia o all'estero per lui non dovrebbe cambiare giusto? 





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Re: [talk-au] Cities in Australia

[Ross]

Hi Again,

This has been discussed before:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#City.2C_Town_or_Village.3F

I'd suggest searching/reading the wiki to see what's been accepted and 
why things are as they are.


Adding a population key is probably a good idea though.

Cheers
Ross


On 13/11/15 18:42, Leith Bade wrote:

Hi,

I have been working in OSMI to tidy up Australia's places. My goal is 
to try and get it roughly in line with the quality in New Zealand.


There are a few places with non-numeric population tags, a few 
labelled "town" but the population is tiny (100-200).


I have been trying to work out a reasonably consistent methodology for 
City vs Town.


I am thinking of ensuring that all "City" councils are listed as a city.

Additionally every "City" should have a recent population tag which I 
have been taking from the 2011 Census. This makes it easier for people 
making maps from the data as they can differentiate large/small cities.


As for very small "towns" the situation is less clear. Most towns 
don't have a population tag so OSMI does not flag them, the few that 
do get flagged. I think we will just have to leave those as is since 
the local community will have a better sense of if the locals consider 
a place to be a town or a village.


Thanks,
Leith Bade
le...@mapbox.com 


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[OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[Donat ROBAUX]

Bonjour,

J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.
Quelqu'un pour vérifier?

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Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

[Minh Nguyen]

On 2015-11-13 02:42, Paul Johnson wrote:

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Paul Norman
> wrote:

On 11/7/2015 10:18 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:

I find lately that it needs a patched Mapnik, because Mapnik
(sensibly)
went to a read-only database connection, and one of Phil's stored
procedures modifies the database the first time that a shield
cluster
is requested. One of these times I'll fix it.

I'm a little disappointed that none of the 'standard' renderers
picked this up.


Phil's demo was an excellent proof of concept of pictorial shields
from route relations, but isn't something that can be reasonably
incorporated into a stylesheet as-is.
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/596 is
the OpenStreetMap Carto issue for shields from relations,
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/508 is
the one for pictorial shields.


There's been a lot of productive talk thus far about potentially moving
this forward, but I'm curious if it makes any difference if we preserve
the existing legends for ref right now, but start rendering the route
relations for the existing style legends where available and just skip
shields until a viable read-only method is developed on the back
burner.  Or is the problem not necessarily depending on shield legends
but something more central?


I'm not very familiar with the toolchain involved here, but this is what 
I gather after racking my brain on the issue for some time:


osm-carto and lots of other styles rely on osm2pgsql to import OSM data 
into a Postgres database. There's already rudimentary support in 
osm2pgsql for generating geometries based on route relations. 
Specifically, it reads in each cycling or walking route and turns it 
into a linestring that coincides with the member ways.


This is fine for OpenCycleMap, which represents routes as translucent, 
badged overlays on roads and trails. But that won't necessarily work for 
road shields. You have to somehow conflate shields on ways with shields 
on the overlaid route. My impression is that that could be expensive, 
though I haven't looked deeply into it. So you'd have to ignore all refs 
on all ways, which could be a nonstarter in parts of the world that have 
yet to see the relation light.


So this osm2pgsql issue asks for a way to apply the relation's tags on 
the member ways:


https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/issues/230

It's a great idea, but it depends on keeping all potential route member 
ways in memory until the relations are all done processing. Or issuing 
lots and lots of UPDATEs. Either way, it sounds expensive, but I really 
hope I'm wrong.


At a higher level, this openstreetmap-carto ticket covers the overall 
enhancement:


https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/596

The question then becomes: what sort of shield do you display? Obviously 
switching to pictoral shields is a large undertaking in itself, due to 
the amount of artwork required. But if we instead stick to the textual 
badges for now, we have some additional complications: in the U.S., a 
badge with just a number is horribly ambiguous. Out in Logan County, 
Ohio, there's a state route, county route, and township route all with 
the same number, and two of them intersect.


http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/184351
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2599900
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2605494

So we need alphabetic prefixes on badges. Unfortunately, it isn't 
straightforward to map `network` values to familiar alphabetic prefixes:


network=US:I  => I ###
network=US:US:Business=> US ### Business
network=US:CA => CA ###
network=US:OH => SR ###
network=US:TX:Beltway => Beltway #
network=US:KY:Parkway `short_name`?
network=US:NY:Onondaga=> CR ###
network=US:OH:MED:Harrisville => T-###

Then there's the issue of concurrencies, where the relations aren't in 
any particular order. You'd need rules for prioritizing one network over 
another in badges or shields. The best heuristic I've come up with is to 
sort by the number of colons, but that doesn't work in Europe (where 
they don't use the same format) or even for some of the examples above.


So in short, it's complicated, and that conclusion comes from someone 
who's both enamored with route shields and very naïve. But no one said 
it was easy. :-)


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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Massimo Primiceri]

*"Al proposito di strisce pedonali chiedo delucidazioni: in Italia valgono
le strisce anche in assenza di cartelli verticali? Intendo questo
tipo: http://www.rmastri.it/42/immagini/s218.gif
*
*forse anche questo: http://i30.tinypic.com/jh67ic.gif
"*

La segnaletica verticale è indispensabile allorquando l'attraversamento
pedonale non si trova nelle immediate vicinanze di un'intersezione
stradale. Questo perchè su un rettilineo gli utenti della strada potrebbero
non percepire la presenza della sola segnaletica orizzontale (strisce) la
quale è rafforzata dalla presenza della verticale (segnale). Saluti

Il giorno 13 novembre 2015 10:51, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> 2015-11-13 9:55 GMT+01:00 Bruno :
>
>> Stavo pensando, dopo aver parlato con un amministratore del mio comune di
>> censire le strisce pedonali, ed eventualmente i marciapiedi con barriere
>> architettonica.
>>
>> Guardando il wiki non mi sembra che sia stato previsto nulla al riguardo,
>> se non l'eventuale presenza del pavimento tattile.
>>
>> Siete a conoscenza di qualcosa di codificato al proposito?
>> Altrimenti pensavo di utilizzare sia sugli attraversamenti pedonali, che
>> sui marciapiedi la chiave Wheelchair
>>
>
>
> Al proposito di strisce pedonali chiedo delucidazioni: in Italia valgono
> le strisce anche in assenza di cartelli verticali? Intendo questo tipo:
> http://www.rmastri.it/42/immagini/s218.gif
> forse anche questo: http://i30.tinypic.com/jh67ic.gif
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Re: [Talk-de] S: Tipps/Kooperation "Stadtplan für Neubürger" (Openlayers?) mit Schülern

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

Am 12. November 2015 20:39:42 MEZ, schrieb Ralf GESELLENSETTER :
>Liebe Leserinnen und Leser der Liste,
>
>in einem Schülerprojekt wollen wir für eine Kleinstadt in Ostwestfalen
>einen Stadtplan erstellen, der sowohl als Druckvorlage (Vorbild
>Mainz[1]) als auch elektronisch verwendet werden kann.
>
>Anders als die Leute von "Armut und Gesundheit" [2] wollen wir von
>Anfang an auf freie Lizenzen setzen, auch bei den Icons.
>
>Wichtige Positionen (Ärzte, Läden) sind im Standard-Layer von
>Openstreetmap.org bereits gut dargestellt, Beratungsstellen und
>Unterkünfte wollen wir per Openlayer ergänzen (ggf. auch mit
>zusätzlichen Tools wie QlandkarteGT).
>
>Wir wollen aber das Rad nicht neu erfinden: Gibt es auf der
>Liste bereits Erfahrungen mit ähnlichen Aktionen?
>Ich habe versucht interaktive Openlayer-Editoren zu finden; mein
>einziges Fundstück konnte die Karte nur über Twitter oder FB
>verbreiten.
>
>Ebenfalls Interessant fände ich, wenn man die Karte ggf. mehrsprachig
>anzeigen lassen könnte. Es ist mir allerdings noch nicht gelungen,
>andere als die lokalen Bezeichnungen anzeigen zu lassen (ich habe
>auch nach einiger Recherche nichts dazu gefunden).
>
>Viele Grüße und vielen Dank
>Ralf Gesellensetter
>
>
>[1]
>http://www.mainzund.de/willkommenskultur-fuer-fluechtlinge-medizinischer-fragebogen-und-faltblatt/
>[2] http://www.armut-gesundheit.de/index.php?id=87
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> Am 13.11.2015 um 11:24 schrieb Simone Cortesi :
> 
> ci vediamo il prossimo fine settimana a Bologna e iniziamo a lavorarci


io probabilmente non ci potrai essere. Se mi mandasti dei credenziali potrei 
già cominciare nel frattempo ;-)

ciao,
Martin


PS: non sono un grande programmatore, ma probabilmente sarei in grado di 
implementare la versione a livello regioni (potrebbe creare inesattezze se le 
regioni di geofabrik si sovrappongono, e le loro regioni non sono regioni ma 
superregioni: http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/italy.html ). Ci sarebbe 
anche il problema con cose che vanno oltre i confini regionali. La versione 
italia come da geofabrik sarebbe decisamente più facile da implementare;-)


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[Talk-it] Massi per arrampicare

[Michele Malfatti]

ciao volevo sapere come posso mappare dei sassi enormi che nella zona d Garda 
Trentino vengono usati per arrampicare, boulder. Grazie 

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Re: [Talk-it] Massi per arrampicare

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[Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Bruno]

Stavo pensando, dopo aver parlato con un amministratore del mio comune di 
censire le strisce pedonali, ed eventualmente i marciapiedi con barriere 
architettonica.
Guardando il wiki non mi sembra che sia stato previsto nulla al riguardo, se 
non l'eventuale presenza del pavimento tattile.
Siete a conoscenza di qualcosa di codificato al proposito?Altrimenti pensavo di 
utilizzare sia sugli attraversamenti pedonali, che sui marciapiedi la chiave 
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Re: [Talk-it] Statistiche interessanti OSM?

[Maurizio Napolitano]

2015-11-12 12:47 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
> Grazie, dunque ho segnato tre ipotesi che suonano fattibili piú due idee da
> indagare:
> * Incremento dei
> [https://github.com/napo/osm_users_stats_italian_province/blob/master/20150911_osm_users_stats_province_italiane.csv

Considera che quel calcolo è sulla base delle città capoluogo di provincia.
Per avere le provincie bisogna prima tagliarsi le fette dei dati per province,
oppure fare query spaziali all'interno dei confini provinciali
(tra l'altro potrei sostituire lo script con chiamate ad overpass-api)

> contributori mensili per provincia] nelle province dove WMI ha agito:

Cosa intendi "dove WMI ha agito" ?
Nel senso post potenziali eventi organizzati da WMI?


> * Aumento delle visite alla mappa principale secondo i
> [http://planet.osm.org/tile_logs/ registri tilserver] nelle province in
> questione?

Quello può essere un indicatore per sapere cosa viene visitato più
spesso in Italia.
Da li si potrebbe calcolare una correlazione fra visite e modifiche



> * Totale [http://osmstats.neis-one.org/?item=countries=Italy
> contributi in Italia]
> ([http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=9=45.31408=9.86942=B00TFT
> vedi distribuzione])??

di quel tool c'è anche il paper
http://www.mdpi.com/2220-9964/1/2/146

>  [http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ Taginfo
> italiano]??

Secondo me sarebbe utile per capire quali tag in Italia vengono
raccolti oltre a quelli
"standard" (es. name e highway)


> Sullo storico hai ragione, è un fattore molto importante. Non sono sicuro di
> capire però: non è possibile scaricare un dump in cui ci sia tutto lo
> storico?

Certo
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet/full-history/

tra l'altro ci sarebbe questo
http://www.mdpi.com/2220-9964/1/3/315
che individua i vandalismi


> Avvengono delle cancellazioni che eliminano totalmente la
> cronologia dai dump? Se sí questo sarebbe simile a ciò che alcuni chiamano
> il "deletion drift" di numeri come
> https://stats.wikimedia.org/IT/TablesWikipediaIT.htm : oggi dice che ci sono
> stati 345 nuovi contributori a settembre, ma il mese prossimo saranno meno
> perché alcune delle loro voci saranno cancellate nel frattempo; i numeri
> vengono riaggiornati sempre da zero perché presumibilmente i contributi
> cancellati non avevano valore.

Le voci non vengono cancellate ma sovrascritte
Mi spiego:
un utente fa un edit su un oggetto, poi un altro lo modifica, a quel punto -
nella situazione dei dati attuali - quell'oggetto compare essere
dell'ultimo utente
Quindi, se oggi una persona ha contributito con n modifiche, ma su quelle n
è intervenuta un altra, allora la prima sembra "sparire" dalle statistiche

Su come è fatto il file dello storico di osm fra pregi e virtù qui trovi una
bella presentazione
http://www.slideshare.net/mvexel/dealing-with-historical-data-in-openstreetmap


> Diego Guidotti è ancora in giro,

è iscritto a questa ML

> può essere convinto ad aggiornare i dati e
> come? Il codice che hai messo in GitHub è davvero l'ultimo prodotto? Il sito
> non è al momento archiviato da Wayback machine e ciò è un grosso peccato
> specie se è l'unico storico disponibile per i dati vecchi: qualcuno può dire
> a gfoss di aggiungere in http://www.gfoss.it/robots.txt due righe:
> User-agent: ia_archiver
> Allow: /osm/stat/
> ?
>
> Per la questione del consumo di dati OSM farò qualche altra ricerca.

Google Scholar is your friend

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Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

[Mateusz Konieczny]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:44:59 -0600
Paul Johnson  wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Mateusz Konieczny
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:33:57 -0600
> > Paul Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:36:28 -0500
> > > > Andrew Guertin  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So the question is, should uses of highway=residential_link be
> > > > > edited away, should they be left as-is (unless a different
> > > > > highway type is clearly better), or should the tag be approved
> > > > > and documented?
> > > >
> > > > Can somebody give examples of locations where residential_link
> > > > makes sense?
> > >
> > >
> > >  http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/262287021
> > >
> > > No frontage, only exists to tie four ways together around a tree
> > > in a non-roundabout fashion.  Only the highway=residential ways
> > > are signed on the ground.
> >
> > I am on a different continent, so I may only StreetView - but I
> > would tag something like that as highway=residential and I see no
> > gain whatsoever from using residential_link.
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.pl/maps/@36.1243396,-95.9812983,3a,75y,163.91h,76.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shsZ4_4xjBRqp_xFsxqtTwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
> >
> 
> The loop behind the tree has no frontage or name and only serves as
> part of the intersection between 27th Place, 28th Street and
> Cincinatti Avenue.

Lack of name is completely irrelevant. Also, just because there are no
houses on really short segment of road does no mean that
highway=residential may not be used.

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Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 86, assunto 8

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>Quando responder, por favor edite sua linha Assunto assim ela será
>mais específica que "Re: Contents of Talk-br digest..."
>
>
>Tópicos de Hoje:
>
>   1. Editor para Android (Wille)
>   2. Re: Editor para Android (Tiago Fassoni A. A. Leite)
>   3. Re: Editor para Android (Nelson A. de Oliveira)
>   4. Re: Editor para Android (Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros)
>
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:31:42 -0200
>From: Wille < wi...@wille.blog.br >
>To: OSM talk-br < talk-br@openstreetmap.org >
>Subject: [Talk-br] Editor para Android
>Message-ID: < 563d466e.4000...@wille.blog.br >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
>Olá,
>
>Foi lançado um novo editor do OSM para android: 
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.mapsquare.osmcontributor
>
>wille
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:44:22 -0200
>From: "Tiago Fassoni A. A. Leite" < tiagofass...@gmail.com >
>To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil < talk-br@openstreetmap.org >
>Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Editor para Android
>Message-ID:
>< CAMZ-b5eJ7yRqL21Qv8xvEuzR1NTSmxyS7VBW=tp7t+ed7zz...@mail.gmail.com >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>Valeu, Wille!
>
>Você tem mais detalhes do editor? Se é opensource, qual o pessoal que está
>fazendo...? A página da google play tá meio vaziazinha, coitada
>
>2015-11-06 22:31 GMT-02:00 Wille < wi...@wille.blog.br >:
>
>> Olá,
>>
>> Foi lançado um novo editor do OSM para android:
>>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.mapsquare.osmcontributor
>>
>> wille
>>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:52:47 -0200
>From: "Nelson A. de Oliveira" < nao...@gmail.com >
>To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil < talk-br@openstreetmap.org >
>Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Editor para Android
>Message-ID:
>< caarfvtx+v2cfeohbzqacimb9kjqulxp-vkhvv3ab_e+ztcf...@mail.gmail.com >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>2015-11-06 22:44 GMT-02:00 Tiago Fassoni A. A. Leite < tiagofass...@gmail.com 
>>:
>> Você tem mais detalhes do editor? Se é opensource, qual o pessoal que está
>> fazendo...? A página da google play tá meio vaziazinha, coitada
>
>Tem que clicar lá embaixo no "Visitar página da Web" (ou "Visit website") :-P
>
>O código é aberto:  https://github.com/mapsquare/osm-contributor
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:00:23 -0300
>From: Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros < alexandre@gmail.com >
>To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil < talk-br@openstreetmap.org >
>Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Editor para Android
>Message-ID:
>< CADQekUhAqkTs5QNBbFnLLqurTMoEpw-XqL1=a+1g78fhm3p...@mail.gmail.com >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>mapsquare.io < http://www.mapsquare.io >
>
>Em 6 de novembro de 2015 21:52, Nelson A. de Oliveira < nao...@gmail.com >
>escreveu:
>
>>
>> Tem que clicar lá embaixo no "Visitar página da Web" (ou "Visit website")
>> :-P
>>
>> O código é aberto:  https://github.com/mapsquare/osm-contributor
>>
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>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-br/attachments/20151106/0a765d1f/attachment-0001.html
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Re: [Talk-it] Statistiche interessanti OSM?

[Luca Delucchi]

Ciao federico

2015-11-12 12:47 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) :

>
> Diego Guidotti è ancora in giro, può essere convinto ad aggiornare i dati e
> come? Il codice che hai messo in GitHub è davvero l'ultimo prodotto? Il sito
> non è al momento archiviato da Wayback machine e ciò è un grosso peccato
> specie se è l'unico storico disponibile per i dati vecchi: qualcuno può dire
> a gfoss di aggiungere in http://www.gfoss.it/robots.txt due righe:
> User-agent: ia_archiver
> Allow: /osm/stat/
> ?
>

ti rispondo per questa parte visto che attualmente "gestico" il server
su cui ci sono quelle statistiche.
Ho aggiunto le righe richieste, conta che a breve faremo un
aggiornamento del server e rimuoveremo la maggior parte dei servizi
presenti, probabilmente anche questo.
Possiamo però trovare degli spazi alternativi, io posso offrire spazio
qui [0], altrimenti qualcuno lo può implementare qui [1].

>
> Nemo-lavoro
>

[0] http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/
[1] http://osm-toolserver-italia.wmflabs.org/

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

[Andy Robinson]

I’m using “EA LiDAR” on my changesets

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:br...@mappa-mercia.org] 
Sent: 13 November 2015 08:01
To: Rob Nickerson
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

 

Rob - great work. I've had an initial go at JOSM editing. What's the correct 
attribution to use for the source tag? In the meantie I've used LIDAR wich 
doesn't look right

Regards

Brian

 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Rob Nickerson  
wrote:

Hi all,

The tiles to zoom 18 for Ironbridge LiDAR data are now online. I have 
subtracted the terrain layer from the surface layer (or is it the other way 
round) leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things! If you think 
the full terrain layer would be useful too I can add this later.

You can view the map online at 
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/fullscreen-maps/lidar/

You can add the layer to JOSM:
http://tiles.mappa-mercia.org/lidar/{z}/{x}/{-y}.png 
  

 

The data looks very good and it is even possible to see through the trees to 
the paths below.

 

Thanks to Chris Hill (chillly) for writing simple enough instructions that I 
can understand.

Happy mapping.

Rob

p.s. I've used the 25cm data so I am just looking in to adding zoom 19 as this 
should provide a bit more detail.


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[OSM-talk-fr] Petit problème de recherche

[Ludovic Hirlimann]

Sur la carte de rendu bano
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/bano.html lorsque je
cherche "Grisolles" il ne trouve que la commune de l'ain et ne trouve
pas celle du 82. Pourquoi ?
 J'ai constaté le même problème sur openmapquest (est-ce le même bug?).

Ludo

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Re: [Talk-it] Piani Wikimedia Italia (ERA: Statistiche interessanti OSM?)

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-12 10:35 GMT+01:00 Daniele Forsi :

> se non hanno finito, sai come mai a febbraio 2015 hanno riconosciuto
> ufficialmente il chapter islandese?
>
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2015-February/003241.html
>


si, infatti la working group per i local chapters ha deciso in 2014 di
consigliare al board di approvare la versione del testo:

20140803 LCWG Meeting Agenda / Minutes

Recommendation/Approval of Local Chapter Agreement

Document:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Agreement

Proposed resolution text:
The local chapter working group recommends to the board that the above
referenced text be used as a template for the agreements between the local
chapters and the Foundation.

Carried 6 yes, 1 abstaining

#

e 2 giorno dopo il board ha approvato la proposta:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_Minutes_2014-08-05

Questo è la pagina su OSMF:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications



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[Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Vorrei chiedere se esiste interesse nel avere un'istanza nostra di taginfo
(intendo con solo dati italiani). Anni fa, David Paleino aveva creato
questo servizio, ma attualmente credo che non ci sia più. Visto che Simone
aveva scritto qualche giorno fa che ci sarebbe delle risorse server per
OSM, mi chiedevo se avesse senso rianimare una versione taginfo per
l'Italia.

Sarei predisposto di occuparmene.

Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Luca Delucchi]

2015-11-13 10:48 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> Vorrei chiedere se esiste interesse nel avere un'istanza nostra di taginfo
> (intendo con solo dati italiani). Anni fa, David Paleino aveva creato questo
> servizio, ma attualmente credo che non ci sia più. Visto che Simone aveva
> scritto qualche giorno fa che ci sarebbe delle risorse server per OSM, mi
> chiedevo se avesse senso rianimare una versione taginfo per l'Italia.
>
> Sarei predisposto di occuparmene.
>

si sarebbe molto utile, così come riattivare le statistiche che creave
David sul suo sito ;-)

> Ciao,
> Martin
>


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

[Brian Prangle]

Rob - great work. I've had an initial go at JOSM editing. What's the
correct attribution to use for the source tag? In the meantie I've used
LIDAR wich doesn't look right

Regards

Brian

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The tiles to zoom 18 for Ironbridge LiDAR data are now online. I have
> subtracted the terrain layer from the surface layer (or is it the other way
> round) leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things! If you
> think the full terrain layer would be useful too I can add this later.
>
> You can view the map online at
> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/fullscreen-maps/lidar/
>
> You can add the layer to JOSM:
> http://tiles.mappa-mercia.org/lidar/{z}/{x}/{-y}.png
>
> The data looks very good and it is even possible to see through the trees
> to the paths below.
>
> Thanks to Chris Hill (chillly) for writing simple enough instructions that
> I can understand.
>
> Happy mapping.
>
> Rob
>
> p.s. I've used the 25cm data so I am just looking in to adding zoom 19 as
> this should provide a bit more detail.
>
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[talk-au] Cities in Australia

[Leith Bade]

Hi,

I have been working in OSMI to tidy up Australia's places. My goal is to
try and get it roughly in line with the quality in New Zealand.

There are a few places with non-numeric population tags, a few labelled
"town" but the population is tiny (100-200).

I have been trying to work out a reasonably consistent methodology for City
vs Town.

I am thinking of ensuring that all "City" councils are listed as a city.

Additionally every "City" should have a recent population tag which I have
been taking from the 2011 Census. This makes it easier for people making
maps from the data as they can differentiate large/small cities.

As for very small "towns" the situation is less clear. Most towns don't
have a population tag so OSMI does not flag them, the few that do get
flagged. I think we will just have to leave those as is since the local
community will have a better sense of if the locals consider a place to be
a town or a village.

Thanks,
Leith Bade
le...@mapbox.com
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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-13 9:55 GMT+01:00 Bruno :

> Stavo pensando, dopo aver parlato con un amministratore del mio comune di
> censire le strisce pedonali, ed eventualmente i marciapiedi con barriere
> architettonica.
>
> Guardando il wiki non mi sembra che sia stato previsto nulla al riguardo,
> se non l'eventuale presenza del pavimento tattile.
>
> Siete a conoscenza di qualcosa di codificato al proposito?
> Altrimenti pensavo di utilizzare sia sugli attraversamenti pedonali, che
> sui marciapiedi la chiave Wheelchair
>


Al proposito di strisce pedonali chiedo delucidazioni: in Italia valgono le
strisce anche in assenza di cartelli verticali? Intendo questo tipo:
http://www.rmastri.it/42/immagini/s218.gif
forse anche questo: http://i30.tinypic.com/jh67ic.gif

Ciao,
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[OSM-talk-fr] Communes, quartiers, rues... Comment sont choisis leurs noms?

[Donat ROBAUX]

Communes, quartiers, rues... Comment sont choisis leurs noms?
http://www.lexpress.fr/region/communes-quartiers-rues-comment-sont-choisis-leurs-noms_1735096.html

Pas grand chose de neuve, mais ça fait une revue de presse des articles
parlant de la toponymie.

Donat
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[Talk-es] Noticia Ciudades Amigables

[Ander Pijoan]

Buenos días a todos,

Os dejo aquí una pequeña noticia sobre el proyecto Ciudades Amigables de
colaboración con diversas entidades sociales, municipales y educativas;
para potenciar la conciencia cívica de la juventud en el ámbito de la
ACCESIBILIDAD URBANA.

Los datos generados, los estamos subiendo a OpenStreetMap y podéis ver lo
realizado hasta la fecha aquí:

http://energia.deusto.es:3004/

Link a la noticia :

http://energia.deusto.es/news/view/app-y-primeros-resultados-de-ciudades-amigables-openstreetmap/

-- 
Ander Pijoan Lamas
PhD Student and Researcher, Deustotech
University of Deusto

e-mail: ander.pij...@deusto.es
phone: +34 944 139003 <+34944139003> *ext:* 2052
in: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=162888312
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Re: [Talk-it] La mappa di OSM ha un nuovo schema colori

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-11 14:14 GMT+01:00 Laura Camellini :

> Io non vorrei disturbare una discussione gia' abbastanza articolata con il
> mio top quoting, ma devo dire che m'interessa l'integrazione di servizi
> nuovi dentro a osm sottoforma di DATI, magari anche con una visualizzazione
> specifica, basata sulle necessita' dei gruppi d'interesse che useranno quei
> servizi.
> In questo immagino/spero/presumo che OSM si differenzi grandemente da
> altri servizi commerciali, a noi servono i gruppi di interesse e tramite
> quei gruppi d'interesse OSM si sviluppa seguendo delle linee guida
> molteplici, non generalizzabili, specifiche per il gruppo d'interesse e a
> questo finalizzate, poi sta al singolo sviluppatore di buona volonta'  (o
> del gruppo di sviluppatori di buona volonta') mettere insieme questi
> servizi una volta che sono stati sviluppati per creare magari qualcosa di
> generico (come la nuova interfaccia) basandosi su quello che e' stato gia'
> costruito sulla piattaforma OSM.
>


consiglio di dare un'occhiata qui, forse c'è quello che cerchi:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services
(come si vede, la lista è molto lunga, probabilmente non si possono mettere
link a tutti questi sulla nostra pagina iniziale, senza creare ulteriore
confusione...)

Ciao,
Martin
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Re: [Talk-it] La mappa di OSM ha un nuovo schema colori

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-11 15:29 GMT+01:00 Aury88 :

> ok, questo ora mi è più chiaro cosa intendessi...comunque quasi mai usi una
> mappa che arriva a certi livelli di zoom, anche perchè produrre una mappa
> per quel livello elevato di zoom sarebbe "assurdo" essendo necessariamente
> per una area molto ristretta,  quindi in un lavoro poco funzionale e che
> dall'utente verrebbe usato estremamente raramente...a quei livelli di zoom
> puoi arrivare a mio avviso ad inserire molti altri dettagli assenti in
> tutti
> gli altri zoom  senza comprometerne la funzionalità; ma siccome non
> conviene
> creare una mappa così ristretta, anche se funzionalmente l'uso di per
> esempiofoto non ne comprometterebbe l'uso, diventa un altro il fattore
> funzionale "limitante" che impedisce la realizzazione di quella mappa.
>



ci sono comunque le mappe dettagliate, per esempio 1:5000 per le aeree
urbane, oppure per uso militare. Ci sono anche mappe 1:500 (di un unico
sito per esempio, poste all'ingresso per visitatori...) e se fai un
progetto architettonico devi presentare un 1:100, sul cantiere si usano
1:50 e dettagli (esempio 1:20, 1:10, 1:5 fino a 1:1). Per ogni scopo si
cerca di utilizzare la scala più utile / adatta.

Ciao,
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[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Mapping facilities for homeless and socially disabled people

[Johan Van de Wauw]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Johan Van de Wauw 
Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: Mapping facilities for homeless and socially disabled people
To: Christophe Cloquet , OpenStreetMap Belgium <
talk-be@openstreetmap.org>
Cc: Maelle Vercauteren , dirk frigne <
dirk.fri...@geosparc.com>, "belg...@lists.osgeo.org" <
belg...@lists.osgeo.org>


Hello Christophe,

First of all thanks for the  idea. I was in a hurry preparing my
"conclusions and outlook for osgeo.be" presentation. One of the things I
wanted to add was how we can use FOSS4G to create value - somewhat
triggered by the "where is the money" discussion just before.

Anyway, I'm adding the openstreetmap be mailing list as they have much more
experience in organising mapping parties.

To the OSM folks: the idea is to organise a "mapping party" targeted
towards homeless and socially disabled people. Full thread below (I added
an inline comment).

Kind Regards,
Johan



On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Christophe Cloquet  wrote:

>
> Thank you for your interest in this topic !
>
> I am volunteer at the Red-Cross, so I could also relay to that network, as
> well as to 'La Strada', and some other small structures.
>
> Now, I never attended such a mapping party, so I do not know how many
> people to expect. I could mobilize some, but few with a cartographic
> background. However, people from the field could perhaps bring useful
> informations that are not otherwise easily accessible ?
>


That is surely the case - they may also help finding out what is really
important, how maps are probably going to be used (print, smartphone,
language , ...?), ... that is much more important than eg what software we
are going to use.

I'd actually suggest sitting together and brainstorming with at least some
of them first, so we can prepare the mapping party, this can be on short
notice.



> Best regards,
>
> Christophe
>
> PS : There is perhaps also something to do for the migrants as well !
>
>
> Le 11/11/2015 07:42, Maelle Vercauteren a écrit :
>
> Yes it could be really great to start with that !
>
> I'm volunteer at Médecins du Monde. So if you want I could help for making
> a link with them. Next week we will start the « Plan Hiver» (
> http://www.medecinsdumonde.be/belgique/le-plan-hiver) in SAMU to open
> medical facilities for homeless people. In parallel, they also have a
> project for migrants this year « Quai 22 » at Willebroeck (
> http://nl.metrotime.be/2015/11/04/news/dokters-van-de-wereld-ziet-aantal-consultaties-asielzoekers-in-brussel-verdubbelen/;
> http://www.telebruxelles.be/emissions/interview/).
>
> I know that the Hackathon's winning team made a mapping tool for disabled
> people. Perhaps it could be nice to contact them and see if the technical
> architecture of their tool is interesting for the project ?
>
> By the way, to place this first activity the January 29 at the ULB, we
> (Moritz and I) need to know what kind of room would be needed (capacity,
> etc ...) and with what time-schedule...
>
> Kind regards, Maë//e
>
> 2015-11-09 20:30 GMT+01:00 Dirk Frigne :
>
>> I think this is a great idea.
>> We discussed today the next possible events of OSGeo.be and one of the
>> idea's (Marc) is to organise some tech network events (probably evolving
>> to a code sprint). This could be a nice topic to dicuss the technical
>> architecture.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On 09-11-15 18:58, Christophe Cloquet wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Thanks again for the organization of FOSS4G !
>> >
>> > As a suggestion for an upcoming activity, I would like to propose a
>> > mapping challenge around the facilities for homeless and socially
>> > disabled people. There are already some data here and there (like open
>> > data about the water facilities), there is a yearly print map made by
>> > 'La Strada' (it seems they might need some help for their online service
>> > : http://plan.brureg-lastrada.be/service/list/), but by putting
>> together
>> > GIS specialists, citizens, charities (Red-Cross, Infirmiers de rue,
>> > Médecins du Monde, ...) and beneficiaries, I am convinced something
>> > great could happen !
>> >
>> > For instance, we could inventoriate social restaurants, social
>> > hair-cutters, places where homeless people can drink some
>> > 'cafés-suspendus', etc.
>> >
>> > This could in turn form the basis for an app/website sur as this one :
>> > https://www.facebook.com/EntourageReseauCivique/, that could benefit to
>> > homeless people.
>> >
>> > I am quite busy at the moment to organize this event by myself, but if
>> > it can be organized, I can relay it through my networks, and come to
>> > help for the mapping party !
>> >
>> > What would you think ?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Christophe
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > *Christophe 

Re: [Talk-it] La mappa di OSM ha un nuovo schema colori

[Aury88]

dieterdreist wrote
> ci sono comunque le mappe dettagliate, per esempio 1:5000 per le aeree
> urbane, oppure per uso militare. Ci sono anche mappe 1:500 (di un unico
> sito per esempio, poste all'ingresso per visitatori...) e se fai un
> progetto architettonico devi presentare un 1:100, sul cantiere si usano
> 1:50 e dettagli (esempio 1:20, 1:10, 1:5 fino a 1:1). Per ogni scopo si
> cerca di utilizzare la scala più utile / adatta.

si...come esistono anche foto a spettro differente dal visibile...stavamo
parlando di mappe normali cioè quelle usate/comprate normalmente dalla
gente...comunque sia, come già detto e confermato da te per ogni scopo si
usa la scala più adatta ma aggiungerei che anche la simbologia/immagini sono
selezionati in base a questo criterio



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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Aury88]

dieterdreist wrote
> Vorrei chiedere se esiste interesse nel avere un'istanza nostra di taginfo
> (intendo con solo dati italiani). Anni fa, David Paleino aveva creato
> questo servizio, ma attualmente credo che non ci sia più. Visto che Simone
> aveva scritto qualche giorno fa che ci sarebbe delle risorse server per
> OSM, mi chiedevo se avesse senso rianimare una versione taginfo per
> l'Italia.
> 
> Sarei predisposto di occuparmene.
> 
> Ciao,
> Martin

onestamente non riesco a vederne l'utilità dal punto di vista della
mappatura, per quello credo vadano più che bene le statistiche
internazionali, può essere invece interessante dal punto di vista statistico
a livello nazionale in se..




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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Mapping facilities for homeless and socially disabled people

[joost schouppe]

Hi Johan,

The first question for the project should be: do we want to own this data?
If the answer is no, then you should really consider using Openstreetmap as
the place where the data lives. For example, you could build something like
http://wheelmap.org/en/ which has no data of its own. It's just tools that
enrich the community built and maintained data, and visualizes the data
relevant to their audience. That prevents creating yet another data silo.
There are similar projects like
https://openbeermap.github.io/#16/48.8713/2.3834 for people with other
special needs.

Of course, if you have a data silo, you can model and protect the data as
you wish. If you use OSM on the other hand, you become part of a community
of over half a million mappers and an ecosystem of developers who might
reuse the data you help collecting in totally unexpected ways. But then you
will have to develop or reuse a tagging scheme to fit the data you need in
the OSM data model. This is not as hard as it sounds, but do involve as
much experienced OSM mappers as soon as possible.

This is only possible if the data you want to map is verifiable. If you
want to map "decent places for homeless people to spend the night" (e.g.
under a bridge), that would be a hard sell. [There's a very similar
discussion about wild camp sites]. But if you want to map things like
"overnighting facility for homeless people", that would be very easy to
achieve.
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2015-11-13 10:36 GMT+01:00 Johan Van de Wauw :

>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Johan Van de Wauw 
> Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Mapping facilities for homeless and socially disabled people
> To: Christophe Cloquet , OpenStreetMap Belgium <
> talk-be@openstreetmap.org>
> Cc: Maelle Vercauteren , dirk frigne <
> dirk.fri...@geosparc.com>, "belg...@lists.osgeo.org" <
> belg...@lists.osgeo.org>
>
>
> Hello Christophe,
>
> First of all thanks for the  idea. I was in a hurry preparing my
> "conclusions and outlook for osgeo.be" presentation. One of the things I
> wanted to add was how we can use FOSS4G to create value - somewhat
> triggered by the "where is the money" discussion just before.
>
> Anyway, I'm adding the openstreetmap be mailing list as they have much
> more experience in organising mapping parties.
>
> To the OSM folks: the idea is to organise a "mapping party" targeted
> towards homeless and socially disabled people. Full thread below (I added
> an inline comment).
>
> Kind Regards,
> Johan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Christophe Cloquet <
> christo...@my-poppy.eu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you for your interest in this topic !
>>
>> I am volunteer at the Red-Cross, so I could also relay to that network,
>> as well as to 'La Strada', and some other small structures.
>>
>> Now, I never attended such a mapping party, so I do not know how many
>> people to expect. I could mobilize some, but few with a cartographic
>> background. However, people from the field could perhaps bring useful
>> informations that are not otherwise easily accessible ?
>>
>
>
> That is surely the case - they may also help finding out what is really
> important, how maps are probably going to be used (print, smartphone,
> language , ...?), ... that is much more important than eg what software we
> are going to use.
>
> I'd actually suggest sitting together and brainstorming with at least some
> of them first, so we can prepare the mapping party, this can be on short
> notice.
>
>
>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Christophe
>>
>> PS : There is perhaps also something to do for the migrants as well !
>>
>>
>> Le 11/11/2015 07:42, Maelle Vercauteren a écrit :
>>
>> Yes it could be really great to start with that !
>>
>> I'm volunteer at Médecins du Monde. So if you want I could help for
>> making a link with them. Next week we will start the « Plan Hiver» (
>> http://www.medecinsdumonde.be/belgique/le-plan-hiver) in SAMU to open
>> medical facilities for homeless people. In parallel, they also have a
>> project for migrants this year « Quai 22 » at Willebroeck (
>> http://nl.metrotime.be/2015/11/04/news/dokters-van-de-wereld-ziet-aantal-consultaties-asielzoekers-in-brussel-verdubbelen/;
>> http://www.telebruxelles.be/emissions/interview/).
>>
>> I know that the Hackathon's winning team made a mapping tool for disabled
>> people. Perhaps it could be nice to contact them and see if the technical
>> architecture of their tool is interesting for the 

Re: [Talk-lt] Popieriniai žemėlapiai

[Tomas Straupis]

> o kokia tokio atspausdinto lapo kaina?

  Priklauso nuo spaustuvės, aparatūros, popieriaus ir labiausiai nuo kiekio.

  Kainomis konkrečiai dar nesidomėjau, bet kiek supratau, vieno A0
spausdinimo kaina - apie 10 eur.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Pierre GRANJON]

Un autre effet "Inception" ici avec la vue qui change miraculeusement :
http://binged.it/1NQ4mnu  

Le 13 novembre 2015 16:26, Vincent de Château-Thierry  a
écrit :

>
> > De: "Pierre GRANJON" 
> >
> > C'est vrai que c'est pratique pour identifier une résidence, une zone
> > d'immeubles ou des serres agricoles !
> > C'est juste de l'observation, on ne voit pas toujours la même face
> > des bâtiments, ça doit être lié à la position du satellite par
> > rapport à au sol. La plupart du temps on a une vue du dessus du
> > bâtiment sans voir les murs, mais parfois la vue est légèrement
> > orientée et on voit certaines façades des bâtiments, souvent Sud je
> > trouve, mais j'ai eu une zone où c'était l'ouest. Dans ce cas, on
> > voit le fronton des maisons orientées sud, et c'est perturbant !
>
> Ca donne parfois des vues un peu torturées:
> http://binged.it/1NPY8ny
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

> De: "Pierre GRANJON" 
> 
> C'est vrai que c'est pratique pour identifier une résidence, une zone
> d'immeubles ou des serres agricoles !
> C'est juste de l'observation, on ne voit pas toujours la même face
> des bâtiments, ça doit être lié à la position du satellite par
> rapport à au sol. La plupart du temps on a une vue du dessus du
> bâtiment sans voir les murs, mais parfois la vue est légèrement
> orientée et on voit certaines façades des bâtiments, souvent Sud je
> trouve, mais j'ai eu une zone où c'était l'ouest. Dans ce cas, on
> voit le fronton des maisons orientées sud, et c'est perturbant !

Ca donne parfois des vues un peu torturées:
http://binged.it/1NPY8ny

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Re: [Talk-dk] Fwd: Opdatering af Nationale Cykelruter

[Ole Laursen]

Den 13. november 2015 kl. 16.30 skrev Andreas Hammershøj :
> jeg har nu været alle nationalruterne igennem. I første omgang er der
> ændret en del ruteforløb ud fra fysiske kortbilag fra Vejdirektoratet
> (VD). Derefter er der lappet huller og foretaget en sammenligning
> mellem VD's ruteforløb og OSM's. Formålet med hele øvelsen er
> at VD gerne vil bruge OSM som kilde til ruteforløb og GPX-download
> for de nationale cykelruter.

Jeg vil bare lige sige: sejt!


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Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: Llamado a toda la comunidad para movilizar nos por nuestro nominado

[carlos felipe castillo]

Aquí esta la pasada entrevista de nuestro Titán
https://m.soundcloud.com/humberto-yances/entrevista-la-nube-naranja-titan-fredy-rivera

Recuerde su voto diario por nuestro nominado.
El 11/11/2015 08:48, "carlos felipe castillo"  escribió:

> Un tutorial para la comunidad de como votar ppr el Tigre en
> @TitanesCaracol youtu.be/wN0Jxsun7S4
>
> Vía @arttesano
> -- Mensaje reenviado --
> De: "carlos felipe castillo" 
> Fecha: 28/10/2015 09:44
> Asunto: Llamado a toda la comunidad para movilizar nos por nuestro nominado
> Para: "OpenStreetMap Colombia" 
> Cc:
>
> Buenos días.
>
> Nuestro compañero, amigo y gran gurú de OSM se encuentra nominado a ser
> reconocido como un titán de la conectividad y tecnología en Colombia por un
> noticiero de un canal privado nacional.
>
> Los invitó a visitar el perfil y votar a diario por Fredy Rivera
> https://titanes.noticiascaracol.com/nominado/fredy-rivera
>
> Gracias
>
> En los mapas nos vemos.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Pierre GRANJON]

C'est vrai que c'est pratique pour identifier une résidence, une zone
d'immeubles ou des serres agricoles !
C'est juste de l'observation, on ne voit pas toujours la même face des
bâtiments, ça doit être lié à la position du satellite par rapport à au
sol. La plupart du temps on a une vue du dessus du bâtiment sans voir les
murs, mais parfois la vue est légèrement orientée et on voit certaines
façades des bâtiments, souvent Sud je trouve, mais j'ai eu une zone où
c'était l'ouest. Dans ce cas, on voit le fronton des maisons orientées sud,
et c'est perturbant !

Le 13 novembre 2015 15:57, Donat ROBAUX  a écrit :

> Les dernières modifs, notamment celles de prendre le bâtiment d'à côté,
> c'est vraiment génial. Ca va vachement plus vite, c'est effectivement très
> addictif.
>
> Par contre au niveau de l'avenue Aristide Briand à Toulon, l'orthophoto
> est toute floue, donc on voit rien.
>
> Sinon Pierre, comment vois-tu que l'orientation de la vue change?
>
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Re: [Talk-dk] Fwd: Opdatering af Nationale Cykelruter

[Andreas Hammershøj]

Hej igen,
jeg har nu været alle nationalruterne igennem. I første omgang er der
ændret en del ruteforløb ud fra fysiske kortbilag fra Vejdirektoratet (VD).
Derefter er der lappet huller og foretaget en sammenligning mellem VD's
ruteforløb og OSM's. Formålet med hele øvelsen er at VD gerne vil bruge OSM
som kilde til ruteforløb og GPX-download for de nationale cykelruter.

Overordnet set har processen endnu engang bekræftet at OSM er et solidt
kortgrundlag med ganske få indtegningstekniske fejl på de 4600 km fordelt
på 6700 ways. Sammenligningen har også vist at ingen pt. kender
nationalruternes præcise forløb, heller ikke VD. Udover de bekræftede
ændringer som jeg har indført har jeg fundet 85 mindre afvigelser og 24
større hvor VD ikke ved hvilket der er det rigtige. I de fleste tilfælde
ser OSM's ruteføring mest fornuftig ud.

Min kontakt i Vejdirektoratet, Mette Dam, er via sine kontakter i
kommunerne, ved at undersøge de fysisk skiltede ruteforløb ved de fleste af
de større forskelle. Der er dog 5 afvigelser hvor hun ikke har oplagte
kontakter. De er beskrevet i følgende Google Doc:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MBMGUmu4E3w9ajNxTG7gh_PTj6eGDUGlOc1a940kph0/edit?usp=sharing

Forskellene findes i postnumrene 6000, 6960, 7130, 8500 og 8740. Jeg har
allerede kontaktet nogle lokale mappere, men håber at I vil kaste et blik
på det hvis I er lokalkendte i områderne. Der er mulighed for at skrive en
kommentar i dokumentets kolonne H om hvilket ruteforløb der er skiltet. Jeg
står gerne for indtegningen. Jeg forventer også at lægge en del mindre
afvigelser op, men de første 5 har højest prioritet.

Vh og god weekend
Andreas

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2015-10-14 0:08 GMT+02:00 Jørgen Elgaard Larsen :

> Andreas Hammershøj skrev:
> >> til orientering er jeg blevet hyret af Vejdirektoratet til at
> >> opdatere de nationale cykelruter i osm, hvilket vil ske over den
> >> næste måneds tid.
>
> Rigtig godt!
>
> > Ift. afgørelse i tvivlstilfælde kan jeg dels spørge den sidste der har
> > rørt relationen på det givne sted, dels kan jeg bede vejdirektoratet om
> > at afklare tvivl med den aktuelle kommune. SOm udgangspunkt forventer
> > jeg ikke de store afvigelser på det eksisterende rutenet. Jeg har
> > desuden spurgt ind til de udleverede ruteændringer og fået bekræftet at
> > jeg kun har fået dem som er skiltet og godkendt.
>
> Som sofa-mapper (eller kontorstols-mapper :-) ) må man jo arbejde med de
> kilder, man har til rådighed. Men det kunne være fin QA, hvis man kunne
> have folk i felten til at kontrollere, om skiltningen rent faktisk er der.
>
> Hvis du støder på noget, der virker uldent, kan du jo høre her på
> listen, om der er nogen i nærheden, der kan tage et ekstra kig på
> virkeligheden.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappa osmand italia

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Ho processato il pbf di geofabrik [1] per il Sud Italia dell'11 novembre.
Allego torrent.

[1] http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/italy/sud.html

Il giorno 11 novembre 2015 18:00, Max1234Ita  ha
scritto:

> Ottima cosa! ^^
>
> Però vorrei segnalarti un potenziale disallineamento: il sito dice
> "aggiornata all'11/11/2015, però il file contenuto nel .7z è datato
> 26/10...
> E' giusto così?
>
> Ciao,
> MAx
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Massi per arrampicare

[Davide Mangraviti]

Concordo, ti avrei risposto la stessa cosa
ciao



scratera wrote
> 
> Michele Malfatti wrote
>> ciao volevo sapere come posso mappare dei sassi enormi che nella zona d
>> Garda Trentino vengono usati per arrampicare, boulder. Grazie 
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> ...per cominciare 
> natural=stone
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dstone
> ...poi puoi aggiungere il tag
> sport=climbing
> climbing:boulder=yes
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dclimbing





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Re: [Talk-lt] Popieriniai žemėlapiai

[Ramas]

Labas,
o kokia tokio atspausdinto lapo kaina?

2015-11-13 16:17 GMT+02:00 Tomas Straupis :

> Sveiki
>
>   Iškepiau pirmą spausdinto dviračių žemėlapio blyną :-)
>   Trumpai apie tai:
>   http://blog.openmap.lt/2015/11/13/popieriniai-zemelapiai/
>
>   Jei kas susidomėsite - tai galiu pasidalinti info kaip daryta nuo A iki
> Ž.
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[OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Donat ROBAUX]

Les dernières modifs, notamment celles de prendre le bâtiment d'à côté,
c'est vraiment génial. Ca va vachement plus vite, c'est effectivement très
addictif.

Par contre au niveau de l'avenue Aristide Briand à Toulon, l'orthophoto est
toute floue, donc on voit rien.

Sinon Pierre, comment vois-tu que l'orientation de la vue change?

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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Massimo Primiceri]

Per la segnaletica verticale degli attraversamenti pedonali nei pressi del
semaforo vale la regola generale che ho scritto prima. In caso di semaforo
funzionante, la precedenza è regolamentata dalla lanterna dedicata ai
pedoni. In caso di semaforo non funzionante vale la regolare generale delle
precedenza come se il semaforo non ci fosse. Saluti.

Il giorno 13 novembre 2015 13:28, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> 2015-11-13 13:03 GMT+01:00 Massimo Primiceri 
> :
>
>> La segnaletica verticale è indispensabile allorquando l'attraversamento
>> pedonale non si trova nelle immediate vicinanze di un'intersezione
>> stradale. Questo perchè su un rettilineo gli utenti della strada potrebbero
>> non percepire la presenza della sola segnaletica orizzontale (strisce) la
>> quale è rafforzata dalla presenza della verticale (segnale). Saluti
>
>
>
> Grazie, risposta molto utile. Domanda aggiuntiva: nel caso di semafori?
> Quasi tutti i semafori hanno anche delle strisce (per esempio per casi
> quando il semaforo va fuori funzione). Anche lì, lontano da intersezioni
> stradali, ci dovrebbe essere la segnaletica?
>
> Secondo voi, quando non c'è ne segnaletica ne intersezione stradale, come
> si mappano strisce del genere? O non è niente?
>
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> Martin
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Christian Quest]

L'imagerie peut varier:
- position pour la prise de vue (parallaxe, mais dans ce cas on est en
prise de vue d'avion et pas satellite... car la parallaxe en sat doit
être réduite à très peu de chose vu la distance)
- position du soleil... heure de prise de vue et saison... et donc ça
joue sur les ombres

Pour le flou sur Toulon, c'est dû à la base militaire... je déplace le
curseur un peu plus loin pour ne plus tomber dessus.
Si jamais ça vous arrive, n'hésitez pas à recharger la page, on repart
ainsi d'une position "neutre" choisie par l'API Et pas de la position du
dernier bâtiment renseigné.


On 13/11/2015 16:04, Pierre GRANJON wrote:
> C'est vrai que c'est pratique pour identifier une résidence, une zone
> d'immeubles ou des serres agricoles !
> C'est juste de l'observation, on ne voit pas toujours la même face des
> bâtiments, ça doit être lié à la position du satellite par rapport à
> au sol. La plupart du temps on a une vue du dessus du bâtiment sans
> voir les murs, mais parfois la vue est légèrement orientée et on voit
> certaines façades des bâtiments, souvent Sud je trouve, mais j'ai eu
> une zone où c'était l'ouest. Dans ce cas, on voit le fronton des
> maisons orientées sud, et c'est perturbant !
>
> Le 13 novembre 2015 15:57, Donat ROBAUX  > a écrit :
>
> Les dernières modifs, notamment celles de prendre le bâtiment d'à
> côté, c'est vraiment génial. Ca va vachement plus vite, c'est
> effectivement très addictif.
>
> Par contre au niveau de l'avenue Aristide Briand à Toulon,
> l'orthophoto est toute floue, donc on voit rien.
>
> Sinon Pierre, comment vois-tu que l'orientation de la vue change?
>
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[Talk-hr] Missing Map Mapathlon – Radionica u sklopu OsmGeoWeeka

[hbogner]

http://osm-hr.org/2015/11/13/missing-map-osmgeoweek/

OSM Hrvatska [1], HrOSGeo [2], IT-sekcija Studentskog zbora Geodetskog 
fakulteta[3] i OSGL Geodetskog fakulteta[4] pozivaju Vas na druženje i 
učenje u sklopu OsmGeoWeek[5] radionice na kojoj ćemo kartirati u 
OpenStreetMapu za humanitarne svrhe[6].


Radionicu organiziramo kao dio tjedna geografije[7], na međunarodni dan 
GIS-a[8], 18. 11. 2015. s početkom u 17:00 sati na Geodetskom fakultetu 
Sveučilišta u Zagrebu, Kačićeva 26.


Za sudjelovanje je potrebno obaviti prijavu[9] i ponijeti vlastito 
prijenosno računalo.


Pogledajte detaljni program u prilogu i pridružite nam se. Ulaz 
slobodan. Broj sudionika je ograničen na 50.


[1] http://osm-hr.org
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Croatia
[3] http://student.geof.unizg.hr/?page_id=41
[4] http://www.geof.unizg.hr/mod/book/view.php?id=1166
[5] http://osmgeoweek.org/
[6] http://osmgeoweek.org/projects/
[7] http://education.nationalgeographic.com/programs/geographyawarenessweek/
[8] http://www.gisday.com/
[9] 
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/osm-geo-awarenes-week-missing-map-mapathlon-zagreb-tickets-19477787587



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Re: [Talk-ca] Can't merge 2 layers in JOSM

[Pierre Choffet]

Le 12/11/2015 23:39, Bernard Loyer a écrit :
> Here below an error message when I try to merge 2 layers in JOSM.
> 'Data Layer 8' was my dowloaded data from OSM for editing, and the
> layer '031M15.1.osm' was obviously the tile from Toporama, which I
> wanted to merge into 'Data Layer 8'. What should I do?
Bonjour Bernard,

Ce message n'est là qu'à titre indicatif et ne t'empêchera pas de faire
l'envoi. Il est juste présent pour s'assurer que tu es bien conscient de
ce que tu fais. Il te faut t'assurer de deux choses notamment :

- L'intégrité des données que tu vas envoyer est bonne. La fusion de
deux jeux de données peut entraîner l'apparition de doublons, dans ce
cas il est de ton ressort de les traiter. Par ailleurs, les données que
tu as importé sont-elles connectées aux données déjà présentes dans OSM
(pour les routes, les lacs, les forêts…) ?
- La licence des données que tu souhaites importer est-elle compatible
avec l'ODbL d'OpenStreetMap ? Il semblerait que les données de Toporama
soient fournies sous la Licence du gouvernement ouvert 2.0 du Canada (
http://ouvert.canada.ca/fr/licence-du-gouvernement-ouvert-canada ),
auquel cas la compatibilité est assurée. Peux-tu nous dire où tu as
téléchargé les données, que l'on puisse vérifier ?

Pierre

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

[Andy Robinson]

Cheers Rob,

 

Tracing from an overzoomed Z18 is possible, especially when you swap 
transparency with BING but I wonder if a z19 would make the job easier or not.

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 November 2015 19:26
To: Brian Prangle; Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

 

As requested a cake (task map):
http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/538#35

The original shape to make these are attached to this email (don't upload them 
to OSM by mistake - open in a new layer).

Rob

 

On 13 November 2015 at 07:41, Brian Prangle  wrote:

Are we going to bother with setting up task map to use the Lidar data or just 
let people get on with it?

 

On 11 November 2015 at 20:48, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

Hi all,

The tiles to zoom 18 for Ironbridge LiDAR data are now online. I have 
subtracted the terrain layer from the surface layer (or is it the other way 
round) leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things! If you think 
the full terrain layer would be useful too I can add this later.

You can view the map online at 
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/fullscreen-maps/lidar/

You can add the layer to JOSM:
http://tiles.mappa-mercia.org/lidar/{z}/{x}/{-y}.png 
  

 

The data looks very good and it is even possible to see through the trees to 
the paths below.

 

Thanks to Chris Hill (chillly) for writing simple enough instructions that I 
can understand.

Happy mapping.

Rob

p.s. I've used the 25cm data so I am just looking in to adding zoom 19 as this 
should provide a bit more detail.

 

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Re: [Talk-it] I: geolocalizzazione

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Il giorno 4 novembre 2015 10:56, Martin Koppenhoefer  ha scritto:

>
>
> Ma se risultano sulla strada, come facciamo a mettere le farmacie dove
> sono? C'è questa informazione nel dato originale, o nemmeno?
>
>
Nel dato originale ci sono le coordinate ricavate da non si sa quale
applicativo di geocoding. Da quello che ho visto in Friuli, non molte sono
attendibili. Come scrivevo, se si hanno in OSM i numeri civici e
l'indirizzo è stato correttamente compilato, si può produrre velocemente un
.osm e fare un conflation in JOSM per scegliere i migliori valori dei tag.

Purtroppo il dato indirizzo non è standard. Per ora sto facendo alcune
ripassate di geocoding:

- lancio il plugin MMQIS geocoder con il csv ministeriale
- salvo lo shp geocodificato
- correggo gli errori evidenziati dal notfound.txt
- ripasso il notfound corretto a MMQGIS geocoder

Il tutto non è un lavoro ciclopico, ma comuque impegnativo. Settimana
prossima dovrei produrre il .osm del Friuli Venezia Giulia.
Servirebbe una tabella di standardizzazione degli indirizzi, ma non conosco
strumenti che possano automatizzare.  Servirebbe una funzione "similar" che
geocodifichi sul nodo "Via Cesare Battisti 7" tutte le varianti

c.battisti, 7
c. battisti 7
battisti, 7
battisti 7
battisti cesare 7
battisti c., 7
eccetera

Se invece non si hanno i civici, non credo si possa fare altro che il
lavoro manuale, magari con l'ausilio di umap [1].

[1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/farmacie-fvg_59182
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

[Rob Nickerson]

I already added z19. Do you think a z20 is needed?

Rob

On 13 November 2015 at 19:38, Andy Robinson  wrote:

> Cheers Rob,
>
>
>
> Tracing from an overzoomed Z18 is possible, especially when you swap
> transparency with BING but I wonder if a z19 would make the job easier or
> not.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13 November 2015 19:26
> *To:* Brian Prangle; Andy Robinson
> *Cc:* talk-gb-westmidlands
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery
>
>
>
> As requested a cake (task map):
> http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/538#35
>
> The original shape to make these are attached to this email (don't upload
> them to OSM by mistake - open in a new layer).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On 13 November 2015 at 07:41, Brian Prangle  wrote:
>
> Are we going to bother with setting up task map to use the Lidar data or
> just let people get on with it?
>
>
>
> On 11 November 2015 at 20:48, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The tiles to zoom 18 for Ironbridge LiDAR data are now online. I have
> subtracted the terrain layer from the surface layer (or is it the other way
> round) leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things! If you
> think the full terrain layer would be useful too I can add this later.
>
> You can view the map online at
> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/fullscreen-maps/lidar/
>
> You can add the layer to JOSM:
> http://tiles.mappa-mercia.org/lidar/{z}/{x}/{-y}.png
>
>
>
> The data looks very good and it is even possible to see through the trees
> to the paths below.
>
>
>
> Thanks to Chris Hill (chillly) for writing simple enough instructions that
> I can understand.
>
> Happy mapping.
>
> Rob
>
> p.s. I've used the 25cm data so I am just looking in to adding zoom 19 as
> this should provide a bit more detail.
>
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[OSM-talk-fr] Chéméré et Arthon-en-Retz fusionnent le 1/1/16

[Antoine Riche]

Nos amis de Chéméré, haut lieu de l'open data depuis l'Opération Libre 
des 26 et 27 septembre (récit sur 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nantes/Evenements/Operation_Libre_Ch%C3%A9m%C3%A9r%C3%A9), 
ont décidé d'unir leur destin municipal avec la commune voisine 
d'Arthon-en-Retz. La nouvelle commune s'appellera Chaumes-en-Retz ... et 
ses habitants Calmetiens et Calmetiennes (ça calme !)


Une petite fusion en vue sur OSM ... Pas de précipitation, la fusion ne 
sera effective que le 1er janvier 2016. Chaumes-en-Retz a déjà son 
article Wikipédia : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaumes-en-Retz


Côté adresses ça va nous faire un joli micmac avec les rues de Nantes et 
de Pornic : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cE7


Source: 
http://www.ouest-france.fr/regroupement-darthon-et-de-chemere-pourquoi-chaumes-en-retz-3829642


Antoine.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[Jérôme Seigneuret]

Salut, J'ai le même problème sous JOSM

Jérôme

Le 13 novembre 2015 14:01, pepilepi...@ovh.fr  a écrit :

> Le 13/11/2015 12:34, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :
>
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.
> Quelqu'un pour vérifier?
>
> Donat
>
>
> En effet, [14:00] j'ai aussi "Error : problem loading tile"...
>
> JP
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Re: [Talk-GB] Nature Reserves project

[tshrub]

Hi Brian,

Brian Prangle schrieb:

Hi everyone

I've come up against a couple of problems and would like some guidance:

1.Nature reserves with one name that are made up of several other nature
reserves, often with their own name. How to represent these without a
mess of names rendering? Is there a relation to fit this situation?

you suppose, its to long for the map-layout?
An 'extra' relation just for denote? I don't think that.

see here:

(the first link is wrong ...). the second a relationbased mix of 
different status an areas.


name:uk="one name that are made up of several other nature reserves"
and
name:"shorter name"

than you find in the search also the strings from the long (usually on 
the map unseen) name

and on the map just the short name is shown.
( if you skipp even the short name, because its still perturbing, you 
just see the border (with leisure=nature_reserve) )





2. Berwyns NNR in Wales. This is huge and there's no copyright-free
resource (unless I can use the schematic map on a noticeboard at a
stile). I can either put a node somewhere (where?) or add a guessed
polygon which folk can amend each time they visit the area (disadvantage
is it gives the air of authoritative extent when rendered)

yes.
I would map ("exact" ;) ) approximations - with a tag note="open for 
harmonization" (or similar-sounding)









Regards

Brian



regards,
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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 277

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English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
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[Talk-GB] EA LiDAR now as a WMS tile layer

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

Typical just after getting some tiles up online, the EA 25cm LiDAR data is
now available as a WMS layer that can be added to JOSM using:

http://www.geostore.com/OGC/OGCInterface?SERVICE=WMS=UDATAGOV2011=datagov2011=ENVIRONMENT=2000

This layer used colour to distinguish height and also adds shadow (which is
frustrating). It is the Digital Surface Model (DSM) so includes all hills,
land and buildings. This differs from the layer I did for Ironbridge which
is DSM minus DTM leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things.

Happy mapping.

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] EA LiDAR now as a WMS tile layer

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

Typical just after getting some tiles up online, the EA 25cm LiDAR data is
now available as a WMS layer that can be added to JOSM using:

http://www.geostore.com/OGC/OGCInterface?SERVICE=WMS=UDATAGOV2011=datagov2011=ENVIRONMENT=2000

This layer used colour to distinguish height and also adds shadow (which is
frustrating). It is the Digital Surface Model (DSM) so includes all hills,
land and buildings. This differs from the layer I did for Ironbridge which
is DSM minus DTM leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things.

Happy mapping.

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

[Andy Robinson]

Ah, ok, was that up yesterday morning? If so then I was using 19 for tracing. 
The pixel resolution will I guess be our limit on defining edges. BING was 
better for getting rotation of structures when I tried. Anyway, I’ll look again.

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 November 2015 19:50
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: Brian Prangle; talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

 

I already added z19. Do you think a z20 is needed?

Rob

 

On 13 November 2015 at 19:38, Andy Robinson  wrote:

Cheers Rob,

 

Tracing from an overzoomed Z18 is possible, especially when you swap 
transparency with BING but I wonder if a z19 would make the job easier or not.

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 November 2015 19:26
To: Brian Prangle; Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar imagery

 

As requested a cake (task map):
http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/538#35

The original shape to make these are attached to this email (don't upload them 
to OSM by mistake - open in a new layer).

Rob

 

On 13 November 2015 at 07:41, Brian Prangle  wrote:

Are we going to bother with setting up task map to use the Lidar data or just 
let people get on with it?

 

On 11 November 2015 at 20:48, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

Hi all,

The tiles to zoom 18 for Ironbridge LiDAR data are now online. I have 
subtracted the terrain layer from the surface layer (or is it the other way 
round) leaving just the buildings and other sticky-uppy things! If you think 
the full terrain layer would be useful too I can add this later.

You can view the map online at 
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/fullscreen-maps/lidar/

You can add the layer to JOSM:
http://tiles.mappa-mercia.org/lidar/{z}/{x}/{-y}.png 
  

 

The data looks very good and it is even possible to see through the trees to 
the paths below.

 

Thanks to Chris Hill (chillly) for writing simple enough instructions that I 
can understand.

Happy mapping.

Rob

p.s. I've used the 25cm data so I am just looking in to adding zoom 19 as this 
should provide a bit more detail.

 

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Re: [Talk-at] Namen von Auffahrten und Abfahrten von Autobahnen

[Thomas Flandera]

Hallo Friedrich,

"name" ist definitiv falsch - richtig wäre die Zielangabe in 
"destination" zu schreiben - und dort dann aber auch ohne "->" udgl.


Sieht dann zB so aus:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218433089
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/79662879
usw

Hoffe das hilft dir ein bisschen weiter.

LG
Thomas

Am 11.11.2015 um 19:46 schrieb Friedrich Priewasser:

Hallo,

kennt sich jemand mit der Benennung und der Angabe von 
Zielinformationen bei Autobahnauffahrten und Autobahnabfahrten aus?
Der Nutzer EO4020 versucht sich nämlich in Linz mit der Benennung von 
diesen, das Ergebnis entspricht aber eher keinem dokumentierten 
Schema. Im Änderungssatz 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35223510 hat er beispielsweise 
folgende Namen eingetragen:

A7 Wien Salzburg Linz SW
-> Sankt Florian
Perg + voestalpine Nord
160 Asten / St. Florian

Falls sich also jemand schon mal genauer mit Auf- und Abfahrten 
beschäftigt hat, wäre es super wenn er/sie dem Nutzer erklären würde, 
wie die systematisch Benennung funktioniert.


Grüße
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[Talk-it] Application for local chapter status: Wikimedia Italia

[Paul Norman]

The OSMF has received an application from Wikimedia Italia for a subgroup
within their organization to become the OSMF Italy chapter. For consultation
and as part of due diligence we are asking the Italian community for 
comments

on the application.

At this time some of the documents are still being translated into English.
I'm waiting for this to be finished before sending out a message to 
osmf-talk@

or local-chapters@.

Details of the application can be found at 
http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications/Italy

and the standard template agreement that would be signed is at
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Template_agreement.

More information on local chapters can be found at
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/FAQ

I want to thank the applicant for being patient, as the process has taken
longer than it should.

Paul Norman
Secretary
OpenStreetMap Foundation

Name & Registered Office:
Openstreetmap Foundation
132 Maney Hill Road
Sutton Coldfield
B72 1JU
United Kingdom
A company limited by guarantee, registered in England and Wales.
Registration No. 05912761.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[didier2020]

josm 8989:
- le plugin cadastre est ok
- le wms (ou l'on doit saisir le code insee de la commune) est ok 
wms:http://inspire.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/15028.wms?service=WMS=GetMap=1.3={proj}={width}={height}={bbox}=BU.Building,AMORCES_CAD,CP.CadastralParcel,HYDRO,BORNE_REPERE,DETAIL_TOPO,LIEUDIT,VOiE_COMMUNICATION==image/png

par contre le cadastre ne fonctionne plus
tms:http://tms.cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/*/tout/{z}/{x}/{y}.png 



Le vendredi 13 novembre 2015 à 19:17 +0100, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : 
> Salut, J'ai le même problème sous JOSM
> 
> 
> Jérôme
> 
> Le 13 novembre 2015 14:01, pepilepi...@ovh.fr  a
> écrit :
> Le 13/11/2015 12:34, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :
> 
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > 
> > J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.
> > 
> > Quelqu'un pour vérifier?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Donat
> > 
> 
> En effet, [14:00] j'ai aussi "Error : problem loading tile"...
> 
> JP
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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM 277

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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 277

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[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM 277

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[Talk-us] Street names that need expanding

[Hans De Kryger]

Anyone know a overpass query to find street names that need expanding?
Wanted to find some in Arizona but have no experience at overpass. Any help
would be appreciated.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[Philippe Verdy]

Un WMS sans TMS est-il encore un WMS ? A mon avis on ne peut pas dire que
le WMS fonctionne si le TMS associé ne fonctionne pas pour fournir les
tuiles indiquées. Le WMS ne peut que fabriquer une page HTML/javascript/CSS
sensée demander les tuiles TMS correspondant à un ou plusieurs critères de
recherche, il ajuste les niveaux de zoom, les projections, et détermine les
numéros de tuiles et l'adresse de base d'un des serveurs TMS supportés, ou
des jeux de données vectorielles, qu'un framework javascript (également
retourné par le WMS) permettra d'afficher sur un ou plusieurs calques, et
de naviguer.
Chez moi je n'obtiens rien du tout de concret avec le WMS. Tu dois regarder
un ancienne vue WMS de ton cache.

Le 13 novembre 2015 21:07, didier2020  a écrit :

> josm 8989:
> - le plugin cadastre est ok
> - le wms (ou l'on doit saisir le code insee de la commune) est ok
> wms:
> http://inspire.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/15028.wms?service=WMS=GetMap=1.3={proj}={width}={height}={bbox}=BU.Building,AMORCES_CAD,CP.CadastralParcel,HYDRO,BORNE_REPERE,DETAIL_TOPO,LIEUDIT,VOiE_COMMUNICATION==image/png
>
> par contre le cadastre ne fonctionne plus
> tms:http://tms.cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/*/tout/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
>
>
>
> Le vendredi 13 novembre 2015 à 19:17 +0100, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit :
> > Salut, J'ai le même problème sous JOSM
> >
> >
> > Jérôme
> >
> > Le 13 novembre 2015 14:01, pepilepi...@ovh.fr  a
> > écrit :
> > Le 13/11/2015 12:34, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :
> >
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > >
> > > J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.
> > >
> > > Quelqu'un pour vérifier?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Donat
> > >
> >
> > En effet, [14:00] j'ai aussi "Error : problem loading tile"...
> >
> > JP
> >
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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM 277

[Jinal Foflia]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 277, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
OpenStreetMap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu Enjoy! weeklyOSM is brought to
you by ... https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM


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[OSM-talk-nl] weeklyOSM 277

[Manfred A. Reiter]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 277, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu Enjoy! weeklyOSM is brought to
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Re: [Talk-us] Street names that need expanding

[Richard Welty]

On 11/13/15 6:05 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote:
> Anyone know a overpass query to find street names that need expanding?
> Wanted to find some in Arizona but have no experience at overpass. Any
> help would be appreciated. 
>
try using overpass turbo (overpass-turbo.eu); pan/zoom to
the location of interest and here's a example query using regex
to find things that end in St or st:

[out:json][timeout:25];
 way["name"~"[Ss]t$"]({{bbox}});
out body;
>;
out skel qt;

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Re: [talk-au] Cities in Australia

[Leith Bade]

Hi Ross,

Yeah I finished adding population tags (and updating old ones) to all
cities in Tasmania and NSW using the 2011 Census. It has seemed to help
improve the map a bit.

I will also continue adding population to the other "Significant Urban
Areas" that are towns as defined by Census. Hopefully these get picked up.
However maybe these significant towns should be made "cities" for the
purposes of OSM to remain consistent. E.g. Port Macquarie is technically
still a town, but is bigger than a number of regional NSW cities.

Thanks,
Leith Bade
le...@mapbox.com

On 13 November 2015 at 22:24, Ross  wrote:

> Hi Again,
>
> This has been discussed before:
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#City.2C_Town_or_Village.3F
>
> I'd suggest searching/reading the wiki to see what's been accepted and why
> things are as they are.
>
> Adding a population key is probably a good idea though.
>
> Cheers
> Ross
>
>
>
> On 13/11/15 18:42, Leith Bade wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been working in OSMI to tidy up Australia's places. My goal is to
> try and get it roughly in line with the quality in New Zealand.
>
> There are a few places with non-numeric population tags, a few labelled
> "town" but the population is tiny (100-200).
>
> I have been trying to work out a reasonably consistent methodology for
> City vs Town.
>
> I am thinking of ensuring that all "City" councils are listed as a city.
>
> Additionally every "City" should have a recent population tag which I have
> been taking from the 2011 Census. This makes it easier for people making
> maps from the data as they can differentiate large/small cities.
>
> As for very small "towns" the situation is less clear. Most towns don't
> have a population tag so OSMI does not flag them, the few that do get
> flagged. I think we will just have to leave those as is since the local
> community will have a better sense of if the locals consider a place to be
> a town or a village.
>
> Thanks,
> Leith Bade
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[Jérôme Seigneuret]

Bonsoir,
http://inspire.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/15028.wms?service=WMS=GetCapabilities=1.3
Le service répond

http://inspire.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/15028.wms?service=WMS=GetMap=1.3=EPSG:4326=1000=1000=43.60,3.85,43.62,3.88=BU.Building,AMORCES_CAD,CP.CadastralParcel,HYDRO,BORNE_REPERE,DETAIL_TOPO,LIEUDIT,VOiE_COMMUNICATION==image/png

Image blanche...

Je regarde la bounding box



Entre 2,5 et 2,6 sur la longitude... et entre 44.8 et 44.9 pour la
latitude... Je crois que c'est un peu limité !


Normal que la TMS rende rien à voir si sur cette zone ça rend quelque chose!

Bonne soirée


Le 13 novembre 2015 12:34, Donat ROBAUX  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.
> Quelqu'un pour vérifier?
>
> Donat
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[Philippe Verdy]

Image blanche ? Désolé je met le rideau noir ce soir. Trop de morts ce soir
et ce n'est malheureseument pas fini, mais pas de stats SVP, il n'y a rien
de plus terrible qu'un chiffre anonyme.

Le 14 novembre 2015 00:42, Jérôme Seigneuret  a
écrit :

> Bonsoir,
>
> http://inspire.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/15028.wms?service=WMS=GetCapabilities=1.3
> Le service répond
>
>
> http://inspire.cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/15028.wms?service=WMS=GetMap=1.3=EPSG:4326=1000=1000=43.60,3.85,43.62,3.88=BU.Building,AMORCES_CAD,CP.CadastralParcel,HYDRO,BORNE_REPERE,DETAIL_TOPO,LIEUDIT,VOiE_COMMUNICATION==image/png
>
> Image blanche...
>
> Je regarde la bounding box
>
> 
>
> Entre 2,5 et 2,6 sur la longitude... et entre 44.8 et 44.9 pour la
> latitude... Je crois que c'est un peu limité !
>
>
> Normal que la TMS rende rien à voir si sur cette zone ça rend quelque
> chose!
>
> Bonne soirée
>
>
> Le 13 novembre 2015 12:34, Donat ROBAUX  a écrit :
>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.
>> Quelqu'un pour vérifier?
>>
>> Donat
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Re: [Talk-cz] imaginarni mesto

[Marián Kyral]

Dne 11.11.2015 v 15:01 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: Martin Ždila 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 11. 11. 2015 14:40:16
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] imaginarni mesto
>
>
> dosali sme takúto odpoveď:
>
> >  I certainly wouldn't assume any malicious intent initially.  Lots
> > of the reports we get of various things are a genuine
> > attempt to map something that went wrong, or was
> > misinterpreted.  I'd suggest an initial approach via
> > changeset discussion comments, so that it's public
> > (and everyone else can see what's happening, to avoid
> > duplication)  Also, having comments in public can
> > make everyone a bit more polite too (it certainly does me!).
>
> takže by sme sa najprv mali spýtať dotyčného v diskusii ku
> changesetu že čo tým myslel.
>
>
> andrewsh s tím už začal: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35151699
>
> Uvidíme, jestli se ozve.
>

Tak zatím nic. Ale koukal jsem, že si zkoušel i poznámky:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/397005

A taky jsem našel, že je mu asi 15.
https://www.wattpad.com/user/ante44ante

> Marián
>
>
>
> 2015-11-11 13:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Ždila  >:
>
> 2015-11-11 12:30 GMT+01:00 Marián Kyral  >:
>
> Ale co jsem tak na to koukal, v těchto dvou případech by
> mělo stačit vše označit a smazat.
>
>
> Keďže dotyčný je očividne vandal, treba odstrániť všetky jeho
> príspevky a na to je vhodnejší revert.
>
> Skúsim niekoho nájsť v SK komunite čo má s tým viac skúsenosti.
>
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[Talk-us] 0,0 Cleanup

[Elliott Plack]

Folks,

There's a lot of sandbox type data at 0°, 0° on OSM. Any special method to
clean that up? I noticed it on the Mapbox Foursquare map, because creating
lists defaults the map to 0,0 at z10. Any way we can polish that area up?

Best,

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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Federico Cortese]

> 2015-11-13 9:55 GMT+01:00 Bruno :
>
> Stavo pensando, dopo aver parlato con un amministratore del mio comune di
> censire le strisce pedonali, ed eventualmente i marciapiedi con barriere
> architettonica.
>
> Guardando il wiki non mi sembra che sia stato previsto nulla al riguardo,
> se non l'eventuale presenza del pavimento tattile.
>
> Siete a conoscenza di qualcosa di codificato al proposito?
> Altrimenti pensavo di utilizzare sia sugli attraversamenti pedonali, che
> sui marciapiedi la chiave Wheelchair
>

Ciao Bruno,
non so se la soluzione che ho adottato io sia la più corretta, ma ho
pensato di utilizzare il tag kerb=lowered/raised dove le
footway=sidewalk (marciapiede) incrociano le footway=crossing
(attraversamento).
In questo modo si può capire se è presente il gradino per salire sul
marciapiede o se vi è lo scivolo.
Questo un esempio: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3405023917
Qui la pagina wiki per approfondire:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb
Ciao

Federico

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-13 10:48 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> Vorrei chiedere se esiste interesse nel avere un'istanza nostra di taginfo
> (intendo con solo dati italiani). Anni fa, David Paleino aveva creato questo
> servizio, ma attualmente credo che non ci sia più. Visto che Simone aveva
> scritto qualche giorno fa che ci sarebbe delle risorse server per OSM, mi
> chiedevo se avesse senso rianimare una versione taginfo per l'Italia.
>
> Sarei predisposto di occuparmene.
>

Magari Martin,
credo sarebbe molto utile!
Grazie

Federico

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Daniele Forsi]

Il 13 novembre 2015 10:48, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:

> Vorrei chiedere se esiste interesse nel avere un'istanza nostra di taginfo
> (intendo con solo dati italiani).

da parte mia sì, io lo troverei molto utile per individuare i valori
che per errore sono stati scritti in italiano (es. ristorante invece
di restaurant) e possibili errori di battitura

visto che sono disponibili gli estratti regionali, sarebbe il massimo
se in qualche modo si potesse avere anche il dettaglio di ogni regione
(non sembra pratico fare 20 installazioni, ma potrebbe essere
gestibile se cambia solo il nome del file pbf da elaborare e del
database)

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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Aury88]

bvivi wrote
> Stavo pensando, dopo aver parlato con un amministratore del mio comune di
> censire le strisce pedonali, ed eventualmente i marciapiedi con barriere
> architettonica.
> Guardando il wiki non mi sembra che sia stato previsto nulla al riguardo,
> se non l'eventuale presenza del pavimento tattile.
> Siete a conoscenza di qualcosa di codificato al proposito?Altrimenti
> pensavo di utilizzare sia sugli attraversamenti pedonali, che sui
> marciapiedi la chiave Wheelchair

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dkerb
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ramp

per caso intendi queste?



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Re: [Talk-it] La mappa di OSM ha un nuovo schema colori

[Marcello]

Il 13/11/2015 10:12, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
>
> 2015-11-11 14:14 GMT+01:00 Laura Camellini  >:
>
> Io non vorrei disturbare una discussione gia' abbastanza
> articolata con il mio top quoting, ma devo dire che m'interessa
> l'integrazione di servizi nuovi dentro a osm sottoforma di DATI,
> magari anche con una visualizzazione specifica, basata sulle
> necessita' dei gruppi d'interesse che useranno quei servizi.
> In questo immagino/spero/presumo che OSM si differenzi grandemente
> da altri servizi commerciali, a noi servono i gruppi di interesse
> e tramite quei gruppi d'interesse OSM si sviluppa seguendo delle
> linee guida molteplici, non generalizzabili, specifiche per il
> gruppo d'interesse e a questo finalizzate, poi sta al singolo
> sviluppatore di buona volonta'  (o del gruppo di sviluppatori di
> buona volonta') mettere insieme questi servizi una volta che sono
> stati sviluppati per creare magari qualcosa di generico (come la
> nuova interfaccia) basandosi su quello che e' stato gia' costruito
> sulla piattaforma OSM.
>
>
>
> consiglio di dare un'occhiata qui, forse c'è quello che cerchi:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services
> (come si vede, la lista è molto lunga, probabilmente non si possono
> mettere link a tutti questi sulla nostra pagina iniziale, senza creare
> ulteriore confusione...)
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
A mio parere avere un link a quella pagina con la lista dei servizi
sulla pagina iniziale potrebbe aiutare ad avere un'idea delle
possibilità offerte a chi non conosce il progetto.

Ciao
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Petit problème de recherche

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

> De: "Ludovic Hirlimann" 
> 
> Sur la carte de rendu bano
> http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/bano.html lorsque je
> cherche "Grisolles" il ne trouve que la commune de l'ain et ne trouve
> pas celle du 82. Pourquoi ?
>  J'ai constaté le même problème sur openmapquest (est-ce le même
>  bug?).

Côté mapquest j'obtiens bien les 2 résultats :
http://www.mapquest.com/search/results?page=0=0=grisolles=43.70934624708688,2.132946252822876,43.706798548393266,2.137216329574585

Sur le rendu BANO il n'y a pas de levée d'ambiguïté, je ne sais pas si c'est 
paramétrable dans ce qu'a branché Christian.
La recherche renvoie bien les différents Grisolles :
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=grisolles_callback=_l_osmgeocoder_0=json
mais côté interface il y a (par simplicité) prise en compte uniquement du 1er. 
Et pas de bol, c'est celui près de Château-Thierry (promis j'ai rien fait pour 
:-) ).
Donc pas vraiment un bug au final, et en tout cas les données ne sont pas en 
cause.

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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Federico Cortese]

2015-11-13 11:17 GMT+01:00 Aury88 :
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing
>

Anche in quella pagina si suggerisce di considerare kerb=* come avevo
indicato, invece di sloped_curb=*, quindi si confermerebbe come la
scelta migliore.
Esiste anche curb_lowered=yes/no, ma anche su quello continuo a preferire kerb=*

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[bvivi]

Me l'ero perso quel pezzo di wiki. 
Direi che vada per la chiave kerb
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Federico Cortese < cortese...@gmail.com> :

>2015-11-13 11:17 GMT+01:00 Aury88 < spacedrive...@gmail.com >:
>>
>>  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing
>>
>
>Anche in quella pagina si suggerisce di considerare kerb=* come avevo
>indicato, invece di sloped_curb=*, quindi si confermerebbe come la
>scelta migliore.
>Esiste anche curb_lowered=yes/no, ma anche su quello continuo a preferire 
>kerb=*
>
>Ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

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Si,  mi stavo applicando alla chiave Crossing, sulla quale in effetti potrebbe 
essere applicato Barrier:kerb,  che potrei estrarre facilmente con Overpass 
Turbo
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>bvivi wrote
>> Stavo pensando, dopo aver parlato con un amministratore del mio comune di
>> censire le strisce pedonali, ed eventualmente i marciapiedi con barriere
>> architettonica.
>> Guardando il wiki non mi sembra che sia stato previsto nulla al riguardo,
>> se non l'eventuale presenza del pavimento tattile.
>> Siete a conoscenza di qualcosa di codificato al proposito?Altrimenti
>> pensavo di utilizzare sia sugli attraversamenti pedonali, che sui
>> marciapiedi la chiave Wheelchair
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dkerb
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ramp
>
>per caso intendi queste?
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[Talk-at] Basemap.at mehr Details Zoom 17-20

[Thomas Rupprecht]

Hallo,

Kennt schon wer den neuen Testlayer von Basemap.at? Hier gibt es in Zoom
17-20 mehr Details.
Sieht geeignet aus um kleine Flächen exakter zu mappen.

Ankündigung:
https://open.wien.gv.at/site/basemap-at-ankuendigung-produkterweiterung/

mfg Thomas Rupprecht
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Pierre GRANJON]

J'ai remarqué que l'orientation de la vue satellite variait parfois en
changeant de zone, je viens par exemple de passer d'une vue orientée
Sud>Nord qui était très pratique (bon contraste entre les parties Nord et
Sud d'un toit) à une vue Ouest>Est qui demande un peu plus d'adaptation
(moins de contraste). Soyez attentifs, pour ma part je ne me suis pas rendu
compte du changement tout de suite, et j'ai fait des erreurs
d'interprétation.

Pierre

Le 13 novembre 2015 14:50, Florian LAINEZ  a écrit :

> tu diras ça à mon boss !
> [image: Images intégrées 1]
>
> Le 12 novembre 2015 08:46, Christian Quest  a
> écrit :
>
>> On 12/11/2015 00:26, Florian LAINEZ wrote:
>>
>> Salut, ces dernières améliorations sont vraiment top, j'ai peur d'être un
>> vrai addict maintenant !
>> Merci Christian
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Strisce pedonali e barriere architettoniche

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-11-13 13:03 GMT+01:00 Massimo Primiceri :

> La segnaletica verticale è indispensabile allorquando l'attraversamento
> pedonale non si trova nelle immediate vicinanze di un'intersezione
> stradale. Questo perchè su un rettilineo gli utenti della strada potrebbero
> non percepire la presenza della sola segnaletica orizzontale (strisce) la
> quale è rafforzata dalla presenza della verticale (segnale). Saluti



Grazie, risposta molto utile. Domanda aggiuntiva: nel caso di semafori?
Quasi tutti i semafori hanno anche delle strisce (per esempio per casi
quando il semaforo va fuori funzione). Anche lì, lontano da intersezioni
stradali, ci dovrebbe essere la segnaletica?

Secondo voi, quando non c'è ne segnaletica ne intersezione stradale, come
si mappano strisce del genere? O non è niente?

Ciao,
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Re: [OSM-ja] 11/21 開催 京都世界遺産マッピングパーティ：第８回龍安寺

[yasunari]

京都府向日市（むこうし）の山下です。
皆さんこんにちわ。

NHK のおはよう日本でも紹介された
京都世界遺産マッピングパーティ：第８回龍安寺
は来週末の 11/21 （土）
https://openstreetmap.doorkeeper.jp/events/32957

みなさんの参加をお待ちしています！！


In message <20151015.232033.01380451.yasun...@yamasita.jp>
yasun...@yamasita.jp writes

 > 京都の山下です。皆さんこんにちわ
 > 
 > 毎月開催している京都世界遺産マッピングパーティ、
 > 次回第８回は 11/21（土）に、石庭で有名な龍安寺で開催です。
 > https://openstreetmap.doorkeeper.jp/events/32957
 > 
 > 紅葉の京都、きっと素晴らしい禅の世界を味わえると思います。
 > 
 > 皆さん、どうぞ京都へお越しください！！
 > --
 > 山下康成＠京都府向日市

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre indispo?

[pepilepi...@ovh.fr]

  
  
Le 13/11/2015 12:34, Donat ROBAUX a
  écrit :


  

  Bonjour,

  
  J'ai l'impression que la couche cadastre est indispo.

Quelqu'un pour vérifier?



Donat
  


En effet, [14:00] j'ai aussi "Error : problem loading tile"...

JP


  
  
  
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Wochennotiz Nr. 277 3.11.–9.11.2015

[wnreader]

Hallo,

die Wochennotiz Nr. 277 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap 
Welt ist da: 

http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2015/11/wochennotiz-nr-277/

Viel Spaß beim Lesen!



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Re: [Talk-it] Massi per arrampicare

[Michele Malfatti]

Grazie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13/nov/2015, at 13:05, scratera  wrote:
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Re: [Talk-es] Noticia Ciudades Amigables

[Carlos Cabezas]

Hola Ander,

Te aviso que el mensaje ha sido marcado como spam por Google y que
posiblemente algunos no lo lean, el fallo que me apareció es por un error
del dominio deusto.es a ver si puedes hablar con los admins :-)

Saludos.

El 13 de noviembre de 2015, 9:58, Ander Pijoan 
escribió:

> Buenos días a todos,
>
> Os dejo aquí una pequeña noticia sobre el proyecto Ciudades Amigables de
> colaboración con diversas entidades sociales, municipales y educativas;
> para potenciar la conciencia cívica de la juventud en el ámbito de la
> ACCESIBILIDAD URBANA.
>
> Los datos generados, los estamos subiendo a OpenStreetMap y podéis ver lo
> realizado hasta la fecha aquí:
>
> http://energia.deusto.es:3004/
>
> Link a la noticia :
>
>
> http://energia.deusto.es/news/view/app-y-primeros-resultados-de-ciudades-amigables-openstreetmap/
>
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[talk-latam] Fwd: Closing Hurricane Patricia Activation

[hyan...@gmail.com]

Hola maperos!

Muchas gracias por sus contribuciones en una u otra forma a la activación
para el Huracán Patricia.

Abajo envío el mensaje de cierre.   Siempre dispuestos desde el HOT para
cuando lo requieran desde sus países en cualquier situación de desastre o
para el desarrollo económico.

Muy agradecidos,
-- Mensaje reenviado --
De: "Robert Banick" 
Fecha: nov. 13, 2015 7:32 AM
Asunto: Closing Hurricane Patricia Activation
Para: "hot" 
Cc: "Humberto Yances" 

*English version — Español abajo *

Hi everyone,

Today HOT is formally announcing the closure of the Hurricane Patricia
Activation.

As most of you are aware, the west coast of Mexico was threatened by
Hurricane Patricia, a category-5 hurricane, several weeks ago. HOT
activated to assist the Mexican government and OSM community prior to the
storm and mapped a significant chunk of the coastal and interior areas at
risk. With the hurricane having passed with relatively minor damages and
reconstruction well under way, we judged it time to close the activation.

A lot of people and institutions deserve thanks for their contributions:
Rodolfo Wilhelmy, Miriam Gonzalez and the rest of OSM MX for their
assistance and advice. Rafael Avila Coya for his coordination contributions
in the early stage of the activation. DigitalGlobe for contributing a huge
stock of high-resolution imagery. The Telenav team for volunteering data up
for import. The Mapbox data team for tracing and validating huge chunks of
these tasks. Most of all, the volunteers who helped trace, validate, check
imagery or otherwise contributed.

Additionally, we're very pleased to share with you an official letter of
thanks from the Mexican government's Director General of Open Data, Ania
Calderón Mariscal. In it she commends us on the quality of our work and the
timeliness of our assistance. Formal recognition from a national
government, especially of México's size, is a huge success and all of you
who contributed should be very proud. We certainly are.

The full letter text can be found here in English and Spanish:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jqgLwknF63VFRONnhUVGdtYzg/view

With this notice we're archiving task 1257 and moving task 1258 to "low
priority" on the tasking manager. 1257 is 99% validated and functionally
done; 1258 is only 51% done but realistically there are dozens tasks that
should be higher on the priority list. If you are motivated to contribute
to task 1258 in your spare time please feel free to do so -- it's always
great to reach 100%.

We’ll try schedule an after action review some time next week to talk
through what went well and what could be improved in future activations. I
hope you all can join us.

Finally, thank you all for letting us lead this activation. It was a real
honor.

Your leads,
Humberto Yances and Robert Banick

*Versíon en español*

Hola a todos,

Hoy HOT anuncia formalmente el cierre la activación para el huracán
Patricia.

Como la mayoría de ustedes saben, hace varias semanas la costa oeste de
México se vio amenazada por el huracán Patricia, un huracán de categoría-5.
El HOT fue activado para asistir al gobierno mexicano y a la comunidad OSM
antes de la llegada de la tormenta y mapeo un pedazo significativo de las
zonas costeras e interiores en riesgo. Con el paso del huracán, que ha
dejado daños relativamente menores y con la reconstrucción en marcha,
juzgamos que el momento de cerrar la activación.

Una gran cantidad de personas e instituciones merecen las gracias por sus
contribuciones: Rodolfo Wilhelmy, Miriam González y el resto de OSM MX por
su ayuda y consejo. Rafael Ávila Coya por sus contribuciones de
coordinación en la etapa temprana de la activación. DigitalGlobe por
contribuir con un gran inventario de imágenes de alta resolución. El equipo
Telenav por el voluntariado para la preparación de datos para la
importación. El equipo de datos Mapbox por el trazado y validación de
enormes trozos de estas tareas. Más que todo, a los voluntarios que
ayudaron a trazar, validar, verificar las imágenes o contribuyeron de una u
otra manera.

Además, estamos muy contentos de compartir con ustedes una carta oficial de
agradecimiento de la Directora General para los Datos Abiertos del Gobierno
de México, Ania Calderón Mariscal. En esta se elogia la calidad de nuestro
trabajo y la puntualidad de nuestra ayuda. El reconocimiento formal de un
gobierno nacional, especialmente del tamaño de México, es un gran éxito y
todos los que contribuyeron debe estar muy orgulloso. Sin duda, nos
encontramos.

El texto completo de la carta se puede encontrar aquí en Inglés y Español:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jqgLwknF63VFRONnhUVGdtYzg/view

Con esta notificación estamos archivando la tarea 1257 y moviendo la tarea
1258 hacia "baja prioridad" en el Tasking Manager. La 1257 está 99%
validada y funcionalmente hecha; La 1258 lleva sólo el 51% hecha, siendo
realistas hay docenas 

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenSolarMap...

[Florian LAINEZ]

tu diras ça à mon boss !
[image: Images intégrées 1]

Le 12 novembre 2015 08:46, Christian Quest  a
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> On 12/11/2015 00:26, Florian LAINEZ wrote:
>
> Salut, ces dernières améliorations sont vraiment top, j'ai peur d'être un
> vrai addict maintenant !
> Merci Christian
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