Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] First satellite post-typhoon Tacloban city maps available
Is there someone coordinating if we can access the raw imagery or at the very least conflate the vector to update the status of buildings? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jean, As a relative newcomer to the list, can you provide a bit more context on how people will likely be using the OSM generated data or damage maps linked to; and if there is value in absorbing some of the damage indications into the OSM map? (ie: either removal of buildings or tagging as ruins/damaged)? For example, looking at the 300DPI versions of: http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/ems-product-component/EMSR058_02TACLOBANCITY_REFERENCE_DETAIL03/1 ... suggest there's some newer buildings since the original bing imagery or missed detail. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Message original Sujet: [CrisisMappers] First satellite post-typhoon Tacloban city maps available Date : Sun, 10 Nov 2013 17:31:03 -0800 (PST) De : GGL gglemoin...@gmail.comgglemoin...@gmail.com Répondre à : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com The European Commission has released the first post-typhoon maps for Tacloban city (Philippines) at: http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/list-of-components/EMSR058 more will follow in the next hours. Guido Lemoine -- CrisisMappers | The Humanitarian Technology Network http://www.CrisisMappers.net ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] First satellite post-typhoon Tacloban city maps available
Hi maning, If you look at the details, it says Base vector layers based on OpenStreetMap (C) OpenStreetMap contributors, Wikimapia.org ... On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Is there someone coordinating if we can access the raw imagery or at the very least conflate the vector to update the status of buildings? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean, As a relative newcomer to the list, can you provide a bit more context on how people will likely be using the OSM generated data or damage maps linked to; and if there is value in absorbing some of the damage indications into the OSM map? (ie: either removal of buildings or tagging as ruins/damaged)? For example, looking at the 300DPI versions of: http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/ems-product-component/EMSR058_02TACLOBANCITY_REFERENCE_DETAIL03/1 ... suggest there's some newer buildings since the original bing imagery or missed detail. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Message original Sujet: [CrisisMappers] First satellite post-typhoon Tacloban city maps available Date : Sun, 10 Nov 2013 17:31:03 -0800 (PST) De : GGL gglemoin...@gmail.comgglemoin...@gmail.com Répondre à : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com The European Commission has released the first post-typhoon maps for Tacloban city (Philippines) at: http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/list-of-components/EMSR058 more will follow in the next hours. Guido Lemoine -- CrisisMappers | The Humanitarian Technology Network http://www.CrisisMappers.net ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds
A layer of pre-typhoon Landsat 8 imagery has been set up : Message original Sujet: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds Date : Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:02:15 + De :Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org Pour : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org, Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.com, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net Copie à : h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Please see here for details on how best to use the imagery: https://gist.github.com/celoyd/7408773 *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Banick, Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.org mailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:57 AM To: Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.com mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net mailto:o...@tappenbeck.net Cc: h...@openstreetmap.org mailto:h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org mailto:h...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds All, please switch to the low resolution cloudless images wherever possible. We had a volunteer in yesterday who did some imagery wizardry to strip out as much cloud cover as possible from stock LANDSAT imagery. That should make it possible to spot and trace major roads, especially on the interior of islands where they're often currently missing. *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.com mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:01 AM To: Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net mailto:o...@tappenbeck.net Cc: h...@openstreetmap.org mailto:h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org mailto:h...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds Hi, Just in case it helps, the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan Has two links for low resolution images which may help with cloud. Other than that I would go with fixme, but am happy to go with the consensus. Regards Nick (Tallguy) On 11 Nov 2013 13:37, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net mailto:o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: hi ! how to map if a cloud is in the image an so you don't now the right way of ways ? - routing-problem. * draw cloud-border - tag? * highway across with fixme-tag? * ...? regards Jan :-) ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org mailto:h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan
http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2013/11/11/typhoonhaiyan/ Press statement: *On Friday, devastation hit the Philippines. The massively destructive typhoon, Haiyan, turned into one of the strongest tropical cyclones ever recorded at landfall, with winds estimated at 195 mph, gusts up to 235 mph and a storm surge that rose up to 20 feet high. As with any natural disaster, rapid, comprehensive, unclassified satellite coverage can be an invaluable tool for responding to these major events.* *On November 07, 2013 at 7 pm EST, several hours before Typhoon Haiyan made landfall, DigitalGlobe activated FirstLook http://www.digitalglobe.com/products/insight/firstlook, an online subscription service for emergency managers and enterprise customers that provides fast, web-based access to pre- and post-event imagery of natural and manmade disasters. In the first few days, following the initial devastation, DigitalGlobe’s satellites collected and delivered over 19,000 square kilometersof imagery in the hardest hit areas, including Tacloban City and the surrounding areas. FirstLook’s frequent revisit times have enabled rapid delivery of quality imagery content during this time-critical event.* *Below is a chilling image chip, depicting the impact from typhoon Haiyan.* *WE NEED YOUR HELP – JOIN THE CROWD:The scale of the storm’s destruction has been massive. In addition to collecting imagery, we need volunteers to help us map the devastation. In support of such efforts, DigitalGlobe has activated a crowdsourcing campaign, open to anyone willing to help.* *http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013 http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013* *For this campaign, we will be releasing the crowd produced results to the open source community. Contact DigitalGlobe’s Tomnod platform team at i...@tomnod.comi...@tomnod.com i...@tomnod.com if you are interested in receiving access to the Haiyan data.* *More resources from DigitalGlobe:* *For media: please use required attribution “Satellite image courtesy of DigitalGlobe” and copyright. See our usage policy http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information.* *For geospatial professionals:here is the catalog ID https://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseImage?catalogId=103001002841F600imageHeight=natresimageWidth=natres you can use to quickly access your area of interest.* *For U.S. government employees: Use your .gov or .mil address to obtain access to our high resolution satellite imagery via My DigitalGlobe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pSr9XqhUe8, and NGA’s EnhancedView program.* *Download our complete FirstLook Report here http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11. * *This area on the west side of Cancabato Bay bore some of the heaviest brunt. Debris from the storm surge is seen in the lower left area. You can also make out a “Help Us” sign in front of the Redemptorist Church* See also DigitalGlobe's FirstLook imagery prepared as a slide showhttp://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11 . -- *Erwin Olario* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - » email: erwin@ er...@ngnuity.net*n**GNU**it**y**.**net*http://ngnuity.net/ | gov...@gmail.com » mobile (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 » voicemail / sms (USA): +1 347 746 9461 » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17
Does anyone know how to use the post-disaster imaginery in JOSM? 2013/11/12 talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress (Eugene Alvin Villar) 2. digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan (Erwin Olario) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:46:38 +0800 From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress Message-ID: caphqi6+acrlsodippxpxa-7ezfkbvc2j_tjw5-hnykgg68z...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello everyone, Here are several additional HOT tasks: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of Iloilo http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested that a task be created for Coron, Palawan. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you to everyone who has helped in mapping the affected areas. Here are some statistics taken from OSMstats: http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countriescountry=Philippines There have been about 120,000 nodes that have been added in the Philippines in the past 2 days. Though I don't have the exact numbers, that probably translates to around 20,000 buildings. The rest would be new roads, rivers, landuses, and improved coastlines. There have been at least 60 mappers editing in the Philippines in the last 2 days. The previous spike in the number of editors was in mid-October after the 7.2 earthquake that hit Bohol (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326 ). On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, There are 2 additional HOT Tasks that have been created: 1. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 - Mapping villages in Samar and Leyte (just the residential areas and roads, no need for buildings) 2. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 - Mapping in detail selected areas that are known to have been highly affected by the typhoon On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree that wider coverage will be needed and I had hoped that by now we would have a better indication of where to map as well. My reason for staying with Tacloban for so long was largely due to lack of knowing where else to shift focus to (although I did allude to this a bit by suggesting the other villages on the coast northeast of Tacloban), more importantly due to a second fact... When we map an area, it is only really useful for us to map areas that the aid organizations we work with will be responding to. For the aid organizations that don't know about, or don't know how to use, our map; then no matter how good the coverage is, it doesn't help them. This is the main reason I chose to focus on Tacloban. It is badly hit (as were many other places as you rightly point out) but it is also a provincial capital, and it is the largest town in the immediate area. Because of this I figured that most of the international response would likely be directed there, and since it is mostly the international orgs that we tend to work with I figured the map data would be most useful there. Now, that being said I want to make it clear that the explanation above is not necessarily an argument for continuing to focus entirely on Tacloban, just merely an explanation of why I hadn't directed people elsewhere yet. I agree that we will need to spread out our efforts at some point, and that point may be approaching, the question is where to focus next. As I mentioned previously, I think the villages along the coast to the northeast will be hard hit (and due to their proximity to Tacloban will likely receive international aid). There are also villages along the coast to the south of Tacloban that will have been hit hard as well since the eye passed directly over them. The
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
Hi, Is there no risk of mapping conflicts if persons map Cebu North from http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 and http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 at the same time ? Can Cebu North be removed from 340 or marked as finished ? Regards, Totor On Mon, 11/11/13, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress To: osm-ph Date: Monday, November 11, 2013, 7:46 PM Hello everyone, Here are several additional HOT tasks: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of Iloilo http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested that a task be created for Coron, Palawan. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
3rd district towns of Cataingan, Cawayan, Dimasalang, Esperanza, Palanas, Pio V. Corpuz, Placer, and Uson. Also hit are Mandaon and Balud in Masbate Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, Here are several additional HOT tasks: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of Iloilo http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested that a task be created for Coron, Palawan. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you to everyone who has helped in mapping the affected areas. Here are some statistics taken from OSMstats: http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countriescountry=Philippines There have been about 120,000 nodes that have been added in the Philippines in the past 2 days. Though I don't have the exact numbers, that probably translates to around 20,000 buildings. The rest would be new roads, rivers, landuses, and improved coastlines. There have been at least 60 mappers editing in the Philippines in the last 2 days. The previous spike in the number of editors was in mid-October after the 7.2 earthquake that hit Bohol (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326 ). On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, There are 2 additional HOT Tasks that have been created: 1. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 - Mapping villages in Samar and Leyte (just the residential areas and roads, no need for buildings) 2. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 - Mapping in detail selected areas that are known to have been highly affected by the typhoon On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree that wider coverage will be needed and I had hoped that by now we would have a better indication of where to map as well. My reason for staying with Tacloban for so long was largely due to lack of knowing where else to shift focus to (although I did allude to this a bit by suggesting the other villages on the coast northeast of Tacloban), more importantly due to a second fact... When we map an area, it is only really useful for us to map areas that the aid organizations we work with will be responding to. For the aid organizations that don't know about, or don't know how to use, our map; then no matter how good the coverage is, it doesn't help them. This is the main reason I chose to focus on Tacloban. It is badly hit (as were many other places as you rightly point out) but it is also a provincial capital, and it is the largest town in the immediate area. Because of this I figured that most of the international response would likely be directed there, and since it is mostly the international orgs that we tend to work with I figured the map data would be most useful there. Now, that being said I want to make it clear that the explanation above is not necessarily an argument for continuing to focus entirely on Tacloban, just merely an explanation of why I hadn't directed people elsewhere yet. I agree that we will need to spread out our efforts at some point, and that point may be approaching, the question is where to focus next. As I mentioned previously, I think the villages along the coast to the northeast will be hard hit (and due to their proximity to Tacloban will likely receive international aid). There are also villages along the coast to the south of Tacloban that will have been hit hard as well since the eye passed directly over them. The eye track will likely have done the most damage, or the area to the north of the eye track since the storm rotates counterclockwise as it moves westward. If anyone has better suggestions of where to spread out to I am certainly open to them. Like I said I am not saying we need to stay at Tacloban (and the surrounding area) just explaining why I was continuing focus there. I know the storm affected a lot to the west as well but I figured this would be trickier to map for two reasons. 1) it is a larger area with not such and obvious target for international aid, and 2) the wind speeds were lower to the west due to the storm being disrupted by the islands. As for the idea of mapping the area affected by the earthquake to the south, my understanding (and this could be wrong) was that most of what we could do remotely has already been done when the earthquake hit.
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been removed from the Featured tasks list but there is really no way to remove it without deleting the job I think. I wouldn't worry about it though, in theory there could be conflicts but that is unlikely since 340 is basically done. - -AndrewBuck On 11/11/2013 11:19 PM, Totor wrote: Hi, Is there no risk of mapping conflicts if persons map Cebu North from http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 and http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 at the same time ? Can Cebu North be removed from 340 or marked as finished ? Regards, Totor On Mon, 11/11/13, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress To: osm-ph Date: Monday, November 11, 2013, 7:46 PM Hello everyone, Here are several additional HOT tasks: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of Iloilo http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested that a task be created for Coron, Palawan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSgb14AAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbAFIQAIe97RcELreVaRmkvsVMp5z9 O+w334ejMYazuPoEKYs+v8B25mCoLr9Cxg8ukKbBs9coaYPOXcxIBgSlBj2i2epk A2oyCMqwQpEHSSJm2EKDw1We76D9je5+4wiEPXtoE/v8fE9DitJuypUl7uXXVFtG kHJWyOdH0HlZ+wJplWa1lBiQ1Gq6ODp3cwiR5f8J/DMsVCpDTh7qRxESkSBmS0ix fPIVthDR8dG4TKUpEcTnJrOXQ1uFtKkAGTlSyXFWbaGOyO1CeOcqzXQN20vxCWg7 8+KquwZ0ToaYUBusVvOOFk0AjBZEj9CVJ5ibolXSkwWj654EKOFy0FWiJb/BHuYe r3KCDJ57oK/fm6b59Gfpa/ii3cMxTtEAqUlvysWiPR9NJuxSIlOI3yR9pbG5in3D dQykP81OT+HPQDSL/yxNrR/6TWYOr5TJzSbgi4+SFMrtkNa6hWwFBOGYCsTKE9Z0 caM5t+zWU3Er0kNnJr5nmruBiwyV0VHgtvjXwOEJm9gE4cu7HAKHenmsGNaji7Xf HCtJWFnrpQTlR1Fg5XVsZ9H4SS82si0hdUtIyrB3dMMOOVU8uSPt0kGJYeFtAaDq 1Jd2kX7woHHcmiTnPifF4wHTNDSQXBDMNhZL64mzpHCC4NHCcx3mO7UgVWO1/ZxG lVG7cwN+MWk8e/QV2ltY =4PXi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
I've marked the remaining tasks in http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 that is in conflict with 347 as done. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been removed from the Featured tasks list but there is really no way to remove it without deleting the job I think. I wouldn't worry about it though, in theory there could be conflicts but that is unlikely since 340 is basically done. - -AndrewBuck On 11/11/2013 11:19 PM, Totor wrote: Hi, Is there no risk of mapping conflicts if persons map Cebu North from http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 and http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 at the same time ? Can Cebu North be removed from 340 or marked as finished ? Regards, Totor On Mon, 11/11/13, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress To: osm-ph Date: Monday, November 11, 2013, 7:46 PM Hello everyone, Here are several additional HOT tasks: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of Iloilo http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested that a task be created for Coron, Palawan. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSgb14AAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbAFIQAIe97RcELreVaRmkvsVMp5z9 O+w334ejMYazuPoEKYs+v8B25mCoLr9Cxg8ukKbBs9coaYPOXcxIBgSlBj2i2epk A2oyCMqwQpEHSSJm2EKDw1We76D9je5+4wiEPXtoE/v8fE9DitJuypUl7uXXVFtG kHJWyOdH0HlZ+wJplWa1lBiQ1Gq6ODp3cwiR5f8J/DMsVCpDTh7qRxESkSBmS0ix fPIVthDR8dG4TKUpEcTnJrOXQ1uFtKkAGTlSyXFWbaGOyO1CeOcqzXQN20vxCWg7 8+KquwZ0ToaYUBusVvOOFk0AjBZEj9CVJ5ibolXSkwWj654EKOFy0FWiJb/BHuYe r3KCDJ57oK/fm6b59Gfpa/ii3cMxTtEAqUlvysWiPR9NJuxSIlOI3yR9pbG5in3D dQykP81OT+HPQDSL/yxNrR/6TWYOr5TJzSbgi4+SFMrtkNa6hWwFBOGYCsTKE9Z0 caM5t+zWU3Er0kNnJr5nmruBiwyV0VHgtvjXwOEJm9gE4cu7HAKHenmsGNaji7Xf HCtJWFnrpQTlR1Fg5XVsZ9H4SS82si0hdUtIyrB3dMMOOVU8uSPt0kGJYeFtAaDq 1Jd2kX7woHHcmiTnPifF4wHTNDSQXBDMNhZL64mzpHCC4NHCcx3mO7UgVWO1/ZxG lVG7cwN+MWk8e/QV2ltY =4PXi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan
Forwarding to HOT list for possible contacts. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erwin Olario gov...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM Subject: [talk-ph] digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2013/11/11/typhoonhaiyan/ Press statement: *On Friday, devastation hit the Philippines. The massively destructive typhoon, Haiyan, turned into one of the strongest tropical cyclones ever recorded at landfall, with winds estimated at 195 mph, gusts up to 235 mph and a storm surge that rose up to 20 feet high. As with any natural disaster, rapid, comprehensive, unclassified satellite coverage can be an invaluable tool for responding to these major events.* *On November 07, 2013 at 7 pm EST, several hours before Typhoon Haiyan made landfall, DigitalGlobe activated FirstLook http://www.digitalglobe.com/products/insight/firstlook, an online subscription service for emergency managers and enterprise customers that provides fast, web-based access to pre- and post-event imagery of natural and manmade disasters. In the first few days, following the initial devastation, DigitalGlobe’s satellites collected and delivered over 19,000 square kilometersof imagery in the hardest hit areas, including Tacloban City and the surrounding areas. FirstLook’s frequent revisit times have enabled rapid delivery of quality imagery content during this time-critical event.* *Below is a chilling image chip, depicting the impact from typhoon Haiyan.* *WE NEED YOUR HELP – JOIN THE CROWD:The scale of the storm’s destruction has been massive. In addition to collecting imagery, we need volunteers to help us map the devastation. In support of such efforts, DigitalGlobe has activated a crowdsourcing campaign, open to anyone willing to help.* *http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013 http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013* *For this campaign, we will be releasing the crowd produced results to the open source community. Contact DigitalGlobe’s Tomnod platform team at i...@tomnod.comi...@tomnod.com i...@tomnod.com if you are interested in receiving access to the Haiyan data.* *More resources from DigitalGlobe:* *For media: please use required attribution “Satellite image courtesy of DigitalGlobe” and copyright. See our usage policy http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information.* *For geospatial professionals:here is the catalog ID https://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseImage?catalogId=103001002841F600imageHeight=natresimageWidth=natres you can use to quickly access your area of interest.* *For U.S. government employees: Use your .gov or .mil address to obtain access to our high resolution satellite imagery via My DigitalGlobe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pSr9XqhUe8, and NGA’s EnhancedView program.* *Download our complete FirstLook Report here http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11. * *This area on the west side of Cancabato Bay bore some of the heaviest brunt. Debris from the storm surge is seen in the lower left area. You can also make out a “Help Us” sign in front of the Redemptorist Church* See also DigitalGlobe's FirstLook imagery prepared as a slide showhttp://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11 . -- *Erwin Olario* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - » email: erwin@ er...@ngnuity.net*n**GNU**it**y**.**net*http://ngnuity.net/ | gov...@gmail.com » mobile (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 » voicemail / sms (USA): +1 347 746 9461 » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan
Hi All, I am trying a couple avenues to obtain the imagery. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks, -Kate On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding to HOT list for possible contacts. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erwin Olario gov...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM Subject: [talk-ph] digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2013/11/11/typhoonhaiyan/ Press statement: *On Friday, devastation hit the Philippines. The massively destructive typhoon, Haiyan, turned into one of the strongest tropical cyclones ever recorded at landfall, with winds estimated at 195 mph, gusts up to 235 mph and a storm surge that rose up to 20 feet high. As with any natural disaster, rapid, comprehensive, unclassified satellite coverage can be an invaluable tool for responding to these major events.* *On November 07, 2013 at 7 pm EST, several hours before Typhoon Haiyan made landfall, DigitalGlobe activated FirstLook http://www.digitalglobe.com/products/insight/firstlook, an online subscription service for emergency managers and enterprise customers that provides fast, web-based access to pre- and post-event imagery of natural and manmade disasters. In the first few days, following the initial devastation, DigitalGlobe’s satellites collected and delivered over 19,000 square kilometersof imagery in the hardest hit areas, including Tacloban City and the surrounding areas. FirstLook’s frequent revisit times have enabled rapid delivery of quality imagery content during this time-critical event.* *Below is a chilling image chip, depicting the impact from typhoon Haiyan.* *WE NEED YOUR HELP – JOIN THE CROWD:The scale of the storm’s destruction has been massive. In addition to collecting imagery, we need volunteers to help us map the devastation. In support of such efforts, DigitalGlobe has activated a crowdsourcing campaign, open to anyone willing to help.* *http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013 http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013* *For this campaign, we will be releasing the crowd produced results to the open source community. Contact DigitalGlobe’s Tomnod platform team at i...@tomnod.comi...@tomnod.com i...@tomnod.com if you are interested in receiving access to the Haiyan data.* *More resources from DigitalGlobe:* *For media: please use required attribution “Satellite image courtesy of DigitalGlobe” and copyright. See our usage policy http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information.* *For geospatial professionals:here is the catalog ID https://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseImage?catalogId=103001002841F600imageHeight=natresimageWidth=natres you can use to quickly access your area of interest.* *For U.S. government employees: Use your .gov or .mil address to obtain access to our high resolution satellite imagery via My DigitalGlobe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pSr9XqhUe8, and NGA’s EnhancedView program.* *Download our complete FirstLook Report here http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11. * *This area on the west side of Cancabato Bay bore some of the heaviest brunt. Debris from the storm surge is seen in the lower left area. You can also make out a “Help Us” sign in front of the Redemptorist Church* See also DigitalGlobe's FirstLook imagery prepared as a slide showhttp://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11 . -- *Erwin Olario* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - » email: erwin@ er...@ngnuity.net*n**GNU**it**y**.**net*http://ngnuity.net/ | gov...@gmail.com » mobile (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 » voicemail / sms (USA): +1 347 746 9461 » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Volgende hangout / Next hangout
Le 10/11/2013 21:35, Marc Gemis a écrit : Voorstel: 22/11 Mogelijke topics: 1) Wandelnetwerken. Ik heb gisteren en vandaag al wat materiaal verzameld. Dus als er interesse is, hou ik die opzij tot de volgende hangout. Anders breng ik ze zo wel in. 2) Naar aanleiding van de vraag van Sus. We zouden misschien Osmose kunnen gebruiken om fouten op te sporen en die dan proberen op te lossen. 3) Sus vroeg ook nog naar het gebruik van OSM. Iemand die daar wat zou kunnen over vertellen ? Weet niet helemaal waar hij naar toe wil: Garmin, Android, iOS, de vele kaarten die on-line beschikbaar zijn, (graphhopper, umap, openlinkmap, e.d.) ? Toepassingen zoals de kiosks in Helsinki ? Andere ideeën zijn ook welkom. met vriendelijke groeten m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Punt 2: de bedoeling is fouten op te lossen in JOSM wanneer men een stuk map oplaad en de mappers aan te zetten eerst een Validate te doen vooraleer men begint te mappen en de waarschuwingen zoveel mogelijk op te lossen. Soms zit men geplaagd door fouten van anderen of maakt men zelf fouten die men best niet wil achterlaten. De tool zit in JOSM. Punt 3: In feite is de het bedoeling de ervaring te delen bij het offline gebruik van de OSM kaarten wanneer men geen internet toegang heeft, dus vooral in het buitenland. Men ziet dan beter het nut in om aan het project deel te nemen en zijn steentje bij te dragen. Dit met concrete voorbeelden onder andere voor Garmin GPS, Android, Pc Netbook, IOS, enz.. Voorbeeld: ik ga op skiverlof naar Andorra met de nachtbus en ik zou graag weten welke weg die bus volgt zonder peperdure roaming te betalen. Hoe laad ik die kaarten best in op mijn GPS of smartfone en neem ik die route op? A propos, in Andorra stonden de skiliften op de OSM kaart in de smartfone, dat was op de piste soms wel nuttig. Ik was wel even buiten kaart want de terugreis ging via Barcelona. ;-) Die nuttige tips kunnen ook op de nieuwe website. Op de hangout werd ook gevraagd naar een vertaler naar het frans voor de nieuwe .be website. Hier kan ik wel meewerken. Sus ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV CRAB import
Hi Kurt, Your tool may come in handy when generating diffs because it has a database. I deliberately did not use a database because it can be a lot of work to set this up and I believe the AGIV CRAB data should be usable by anyone. The interface here is translated: http://addr.openstreetmap.fr/vlaanderen/ I just send the csv files to frédéric rodrigo and he uploads them and creates relations etc. If you can send me a new file that would be great when the issue I had have been solved: - Improve the script to handle 'special' chars. - Improve the script to Always take the most accurate position. - Improve the script to remove data with an end-date before today. But if i followed your explanation this should all be ok no? Thanks for the good work. Oh and can you keep the format I used? https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0nglkunw4x2osk/crab.csv Dot-comma seperated and the same columns? This will make it easier for frederic to update. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote: Hi, I've been looking at creating my own tools for the CRAB data. I've made some software to import the files provided by AGIV into a postgresql database. You can find it here: https://github.com/kroeckx/crab-tools To create the same .csv files as Ben generates I suggest you use the following query: SELECT DISTINCT ON (point) postcode, municipality_name, street_name, house_number_label, ST_Y(ST_Transform(point, 4326)), ST_X(ST_Transform(point, 4326)) FROM crab.address_position WHERE postcode = ? ORDER BY point; This should give you more addresses and only the valid addresses, and in most cases it should now end up on the building. It should also have grouped all the different numbers belonging to the same building into 1 node. I'm not sure how the data on http://addr.openstreetmap.fr/vlaanderen is generated exactly. But I'm going to look into improving things. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV datasets, gemeente grezen
2013/11/9 Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be Ben, kun je eens horen of we al die dingen echt kunnen gebruiken? Ik zal eens horen. Met het updaten van grenzen moeten we wel oppassen denk ik. Iemand daar meer ervaring mee? Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV CRAB import
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:07:38AM +0100, Ben Abelshausen wrote: Hi Kurt, Your tool may come in handy when generating diffs because it has a database. I deliberately did not use a database because it can be a lot of work to set this up and I believe the AGIV CRAB data should be usable by anyone. It shouldn't be that hard to set it up with a database. And I need the database for the other things I want to do with it. The interface here is translated: http://addr.openstreetmap.fr/vlaanderen/ I just send the csv files to frédéric rodrigo and he uploads them and creates relations etc. If you can send me a new file that would be great when the issue I had have been solved: - Improve the script to handle 'special' chars. - Improve the script to Always take the most accurate position. - Improve the script to remove data with an end-date before today. But if i followed your explanation this should all be ok no? Thanks for the good work. Oh and can you keep the format I used? https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0nglkunw4x2osk/crab.csv Dot-comma seperated and the same columns? This will make it easier for frederic to update. I assume your first problem is that the CRAB database is in latin1 and maybe you want it in UTF-8? I can at least not see problems with non-ASCII chars. But I do believe it should deal properly with the rest. I've put a file with the same header on: http://www.roeckx.be/osm/crab.csv I've made that file in UTF-8. I hope that is what's expected. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)
Ik sta op het punt om een nieuwe tablet te kopen. Maar ik geraak er maar niet uit of die een ingebouwde GPS moet hebben of niet. Heeft het nut i.v.m. het inbrengen van gegevens van OSM. 3G zie ik niet zitten. Guy Vanvuchelen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)
persoonlijk lijkt een tablet mij te groot om mee op stap te gaan. maar ja, dat is mijn keuze. alvast plezier met je nieuwe tablet m 2013/11/11 Guy Vanvuchelen guy.vanvuche...@gmail.com Ik sta op het punt om een nieuwe tablet te kopen. Maar ik geraak er maar niet uit of die een ingebouwde GPS moet hebben of niet. Heeft het nut i.v.m. het inbrengen van gegevens van OSM. 3G zie ik niet zitten. Guy Vanvuchelen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] GPS, phablets
There are also small tablets with apps for osm 2013/11/11 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com On 2013-11-11 19:28, Guy Vanvuchelen wrote : Ik sta op het punt om een nieuwe tablet te kopen. Maar ik geraak er maar niet uit of die een ingebouwde GPS moet hebben of niet. Heeft het nut i.v.m. het inbrengen van gegevens van OSM. 3G zie ik niet zitten. It looks like a lapalissade, but a GPS receiver is only used to know where the device is. This means that without GPS you will be able to see maps but that you will have to swipe them yourself as you move instead of the program doing it according to the GPS. This means that you, most sorrily, won't be able to track a trip (make a GPX trace) or locate a point. There are also surprising applications. With GPS, you may subscribe to a server that will (hopefully) tell you where your device is if you lost it, and even erase your data if you give up getting it back. But that needs 3G. 3G is not necessary for most OSM based applications. They use offline maps (stored inside the device). For other applications that must access the Internet to get the map, it's possible to put and lock the data in cache while at home before the trip. 3G is only needed to compute a new route or to access POIs. As Marc said, a tablet may be over-sized. As I don't really need one very much but wanted to enjoy Android, I bought what they call a phablet, a clone of Samsung Note i9220 aka n7000, which, with a 5.5 screen, is half way between a *ph*one and a t*ablet*. Hoping this will help, enjoy. André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Ivo De Broeck Valleilaan 13 3360 Korbeek-lo tel +32 16 43 84 93 gsm +32 486 17 61 13 spanje tel +34 966 841 726 gsm +34 603 661 778 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Visual editor for the wiki (WAS: How to overcome lack of consensus)
On 2013-09-29 01:40, Clifford Snow wrote :
I wonder if anyone actually uses LibreOffice for wiki pages [visual
edition]. Learning wiki markdown takes a while. I can certainly see
the desire to have a visual editor. A visual editor could lower the
bar for contributions.
http://de.slideshare.net/manuelaschmidt1/poster-dresden-icc
http://de.slideshare.net/manuelaschmidt1/poster-dresden-icc has some
interesting statistics on why only a small portion of new users
contribute. The number one reason for not mapping is it is too time
consuming. Not exactly the same as editing the wiki and the sample
size was small, but I think it is safe to assume that people may not
want to learn another editor to contribute .
Yes, you're absolutely right.
Maybe we should remember that a wiki supports HTML, well, a good part of
it, simple HTML as I described it before.
With Thunderbird, I made the little evaluation test shown under my
signature and copied to a wiki page.
A HTML editor like Kompozer may be used. It's WYSIWYG. The main problem
is avoiding the HTML that doesn't work.
Beside that, one must just find how to copy HTML code to a Wiki page.
And hence, it's disappointing to see that what has been discussed on
lists, coming to suggestions, decisions or education may remains hidden
in e-mails. Some e-mail threads could be digested in one message -
wiki page, keeping what remains true, is important, and makes a
proposition, a decision or excellent education.
Cheers,
André.
While I was writing the following of this e-mail with Thunderbird, I
copiedpasted its HTML code to:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Papou/HTML_in_wiki_pages
(and left in some misunderstood tags to tidy up)
Unfortunately, the a tag does not work, but you see a workaround below.
All that was very WYSIWYG for what works.
Unfortunately, pasting again the message after I sent it to myself got a
weird formating problem.
This is a HTML demo of HTML features that work in a wiki page.
This is a table of contents (with the Wiki tag _ _ T O C _ _ typed in
HTML text)
__TOC__
Title 1
Title 2
* list line 1
* list line 2
centered line and table
case 0 0
case 1 1
We can use wiki tags inside HTML text:
1. [[Main_Page]]
2. [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Papou/HTML_in_wiki_pages
HTML in wiki pages]
3. and, most of all, {{Tag|highway}}.
This is a quotation test, unfortunately without the left side vertical
bar on the wiki.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
On 11/10/2013 01:45 PM, Arun Ganesh wrote: In India the law requires that the external boundaries of the country include parts of Kashmir that is now under control of foreign countries. This regularly causes issues when OSM is demoed publicly at institutes or to government officials. Also the startup community is apprehensive of using openstreetmap because of this issue. In this case, its the law that is broken, but adapting OSM to be able to handle such political challenges is more feasible than fixing the law. Easy: take everything from OSM but the borders and supply your own favourite borders from a separate source with a nice big Indian government stamp on it. Render to taste. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
On 11/11/2013 03:27 AM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: I'd argue that the GIS community has already decided that layers are the solution. QGIS, open source gis software, already handles layers much like ESRI. JOSM even handles layers. IMHO osm is post-layers ;-) This is quite a fascinating statement. Is there any content on the web describing the concept of a post-layer GIS in more detail? Astute observers of the concept might have remarked that since GIS is about layers, it is therefore perfectly logical that post-layers OSM uses PostGIS. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
2013/11/11 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org Astute observers of the concept might have remarked that since GIS is about layers, it is therefore perfectly logical that post-layers OSM uses PostGIS. it doesn't, it uses postgres. Postgis is used for example for rendering the mapnik map. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
On 11/11/2013 03:39 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/11/11 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org mailto:j...@liotier.org Astute observers of the concept might have remarked that since GIS is about layers, it is therefore perfectly logical that post-layers OSM uses PostGIS. it doesn't, it uses postgres. Postgis is used for example for rendering the mapnik map. Well - there goes the consistency of the post-layers concept... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
2013/11/11 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org Astute observers of the concept might have remarked that since GIS is about layers, A GIS is likely organized in layers, but it is not necessary. If you have one big database with everything in it (like OSM) you do not necessarily have to organize your data in layers (might also depend how you define a layer, e.g. layers for users, changes and changesets, geodata?). Of course you can restructure osm data into classical GIS layers (by interpreting them and making decisions, i.e. there is not the one possible layer system but infinite ones), but for what benefit? IMHO it would make our lifes more complicated rather than easier... cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
On 11/11/2013 03:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/11/11 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org mailto:j...@liotier.org Astute observers of the concept might have remarked that since GIS is about layers, A GIS is likely organized in layers, but it is not necessary. If you have one big database with everything in it (like OSM) you do not necessarily have to organize your data in layers (might also depend how you define a layer, e.g. layers for users, changes and changesets, geodata?). Of course you can restructure osm data into classical GIS layers (by interpreting them and making decisions, i.e. there is not the one possible layer system but infinite ones), but for what benefit? IMHO it would make our lifes more complicated rather than easier... C'mon, I was just attempting a feeble attempt at humor - I should have added a smiley ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
Easy: take everything from OSM but the borders and supply your own favourite borders from a separate source with a nice big Indian government stamp on it. Render to taste. Having new tile layer on osm.org that does not have any international boundaries (or hiding those that are disputed) would solve the issue much more easily rather than requiring everyone affected to setup their own tileservers. This issue affects half the global internet population and is a definite barrier against the global adoption of this project. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
Hi Does India have a local osm chapter? If yes, this would be a perfect place to host the tiles. Many local chapters host tile servers. Thanks Jason On Monday, November 11, 2013, Arun Ganesh wrote: Easy: take everything from OSM but the borders and supply your own favourite borders from a separate source with a nice big Indian government stamp on it. Render to taste. Having new tile layer on osm.org that does not have any international boundaries (or hiding those that are disputed) would solve the issue much more easily rather than requiring everyone affected to setup their own tileservers. This issue affects half the global internet population and is a definite barrier against the global adoption of this project. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
OSM is a global and worldwide project and cannot deal with all local issues. For example, in France some names/routes are trade marks and for this reason should not be visible on maps unless authorized. So what ? Should we remove these routes from the osm.org default rendering ? Create one more rendering just to deal with this ? OSM is a data project, and these data allow to make maps, not one single map, but maps. If the default map does not fit one need, just use the data and the tools to make your own. That's what we did with these trademarked routes... they are hidden on OSM-FR tiles. Adoption of the project is also to reuse the data, not the basic services provided by osm.org servers. 2013/11/11 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com Easy: take everything from OSM but the borders and supply your own favourite borders from a separate source with a nice big Indian government stamp on it. Render to taste. Having new tile layer on osm.org that does not have any international boundaries (or hiding those that are disputed) would solve the issue much more easily rather than requiring everyone affected to setup their own tileservers. This issue affects half the global internet population and is a definite barrier against the global adoption of this project. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
2013/11/11 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr OSM is a data project, and these data allow to make maps, not one single map, but maps. If the default map does not fit one need, just use the data and the tools to make your own. That's what we did with these trademarked routes... they are hidden on OSM-FR tiles. I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle on osm.org without the admin boundaries. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
On 11/11/2013 06:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle on osm.org http://osm.org without the admin boundaries. While a map without borders is quite a powerful philosophical statement, is it really part of Openstreetmap's core role ? As Christian said, let users answer their political and artistic urges through using the Openstreetmap data - let a thousand renders bloom ! A new map style as a core service would be yet another nitpicking topic, mired in mailing list discussions... Openstreetmap's strength is that only the data requires consensus - each user has the freedom to produce his ideal rendering of the data without having to ask anyone's permission... Let them take advantage of it ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSRM-talk] Compilation error on Ubuntu 13.10
Hello, I have this following error when compiling Project-OSRM on ubuntu 13.10 x64 : [ 72%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/osrm-extract.dir/Util/GitDescription.cpp.o Linking CXX executable osrm-extract /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/osrm-extract.dir/Extractor/ScriptingEnvironment.cpp.o: référence au symbole non défini «lua_rawlen» /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblua5.2.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [osrm-extract] Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/osrm-extract.dir/all] Erreur 2 make: *** [all] Erreur 2 What can I do ? Thanks ___ OSRM-talk mailing list osrm-t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] Compilation error on Ubuntu 13.10
which branch are you using? If not, try the latest and greatest develop branch. —Dennis Am 11.11.2013 um 14:25 schrieb Aurélien FILEZ kinj...@gmail.com: Hello, I have this following error when compiling Project-OSRM on ubuntu 13.10 x64 : [ 72%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/osrm-extract.dir/Util/GitDescription.cpp.o Linking CXX executable osrm-extract /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/osrm-extract.dir/Extractor/ScriptingEnvironment.cpp.o: référence au symbole non défini «lua_rawlen» /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblua5.2.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [osrm-extract] Erreur 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/osrm-extract.dir/all] Erreur 2 make: *** [all] Erreur 2 What can I do ? Thanks ___ OSRM-talk mailing list osrm-t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list osrm-t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers
On 11/11/2013 06:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle on osm.org without the admin boundaries. While a map without borders is quite a powerful philosophical statement, is it really part of Openstreetmap's core role ? As Christian said, let users answer their political and artistic urges through using the Openstreetmap data - let a thousand renders bloom ! A new map style as a core service would be yet another nitpicking topic, mired in mailing list discussions... Openstreetmap's strength is that only the data requires consensus - each user has the freedom to produce his ideal rendering of the data without having to ask anyone's permission... Let them take advantage of it ! So, someone could build a renderer for openbordermap? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] History Re: [...] boundaries [...]
I used to host a now defunct and decommisoned website for comrade; But whose domain name seems apt: Http://web.archive.org/*/makebordershistory.org/ i myself would if i ever found time Sent from Huawei Mobile nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-br] RES: Áreas protegidas
Gerald, Por acaso era isso que você estava procurando : http://www2.normaambiental.com.br/bolzan/lpext.dll/np/Infobase8/1ece4c0/1eda 4c9/1edd756?f=templatesfn=document-frame.htm2.0#JD_MGDecreto3607194-Art3%B A ___ cid:AEB89D39-0ED3-48AF-9EB7-EF84C2B4BC40 Reinaldo Neves Equação Informática (: (11) 3221-3722 *: rne...@equacao.com.br De: Gerald Weber [mailto:gwebe...@gmail.com] Enviada em: domingo, 10 de novembro de 2013 18:24 Para: OSM talk-br Assunto: Re: [Talk-br] Áreas protegidas Oi Augsto concordo com você. Há tempos eu gostaria de mapear os contornos exatos do Parque do Rola Moça, mas nunca achei dados para isto. Pela caraterística do parque não dá para fazer isto percorrendo com um GPS. Uma possibilidade seria extrair as coordenadas direto da Lei de criação do parque, mas nem isto achei. Talvez não procurei suficiente. Eu acho que podemos deixar por ora, até acharmos dados melhores. abraço Gerald 2013/11/10 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Gerald, Eu acho que ajustar isso seria uma tarefa para quem conhece o local. Sem querer delegar trabalho para ninguém, eu sugiro que tu ou removas a área (posso fazer isso se quiseres), ou aproveite a oportunidade para traçar um contorno mais exato. Nota também que logo a oeste desse local existe uma área residencial dentro dos (supostos) limites da Área de Proteção Especial Córrego Taboão. Poderíamos retraçar a área para exibir os limites de facto da UC, ou manter os limites oficias. Acho que deveríamos adotar um critério geral para tratar casos como esse. Augusto. On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 08:14 -0200, Gerald Weber wrote: Oi Augusto Eu conferi uma área que eu conheço razoávelmente bem que é o Parque do Rola Moça em Nova Lima: http://osm.org/go/PAWd_mAl- Eu diria que basicamente não tem nada a ver com a área real do parque que é muito maior do que isto. A estrada secundária que você vê passando embaixo passa bem no meio do parque. abraço Gerald PS: eu concordo com o Fernando, você precisa criar um usuário específico para esta importação. 2013/11/9 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Acabei de fazer uma importação de unidades de conservação. Os dados vêm do arquivo LIM_UNIDADE_CONSERVACAO_NAO_SNUC_A.shp da base cartográfica escala 250 mil do IBGE, ou seja, são informações que (suponho) o MMA e o ICMBio não coleta. Esses dados parecem bem piores que os dados do ICMBio que eu pretendo processar em breve. Em algumas dados que particularmente ruins, eu adicionei um comentário na tag fixme. Sinta-se à vontade para fazer alterações ou deletar algo que pareça não fazer sentido. A maioria das unidades ficam no sudeste, em particular há várias no entorno de Belo Horizonte. Um caso que eu vou deixar para o pessoal da região da divisa SP/MS/PR decidir é a tal da Reserva Estadual Pontal do Paranapanema, que parece só existir em teoria (a área contém apenas fazendas): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3317528 Para referência, esses são os chageset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808365 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808320 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18807980 Pretendo documentar a importação na wiki em breve. On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 09:35 -0500, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Há algum tempo eu falei em importar parques nacionais e outras áreas protegidas. Adicionei algumas unidades de conservação e uma terra indígena ao mapa (dados da base 250 mil do IBGE): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300492 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300496 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/243992224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244469951 Teríamos que decidir se a qualidade desses dados é suficiente para os nosso propósitos, e se as tags estão a contento (de acordo com https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary% https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%25 3Dprotected_area ). O principal refinamento a ser feito após a importação seria substituir os traçados que acompanham a orla de um rio ou oceano pelos traçados já existentes no OSM, usando uma relação (mas deixe as áreas acima como estão por enquanto para que os outros possam ver o original). Isso é algo que eu deixaria para as pessoas interessadas fazerem na redondeza das suas regiões. Adicionei a tag leisure=nature_reserve tanto aos parques
Re: [Talk-br] RES: Áreas protegidas
Isso mesmo, legal, obrigado :) 2013/11/11 Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br Gerald, Por acaso era isso que você estava procurando : http://www2.normaambiental.com.br/bolzan/lpext.dll/np/Infobase8/1ece4c0/1eda4c9/1edd756?f=templatesfn=document-frame.htm2.0#JD_MGDecreto3607194-Art3%BA ___ [image: cid:AEB89D39-0ED3-48AF-9EB7-EF84C2B4BC40] Reinaldo Neves Equação Informática (: (11) 3221-3722 ***: rne...@equacao.com.br *De:* Gerald Weber [mailto:gwebe...@gmail.com] *Enviada em:* domingo, 10 de novembro de 2013 18:24 *Para:* OSM talk-br *Assunto:* Re: [Talk-br] Áreas protegidas Oi Augsto concordo com você. Há tempos eu gostaria de mapear os contornos exatos do Parque do Rola Moça, mas nunca achei dados para isto. Pela caraterística do parque não dá para fazer isto percorrendo com um GPS. Uma possibilidade seria extrair as coordenadas direto da Lei de criação do parque, mas nem isto achei. Talvez não procurei suficiente. Eu acho que podemos deixar por ora, até acharmos dados melhores. abraço Gerald 2013/11/10 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Gerald, Eu acho que ajustar isso seria uma tarefa para quem conhece o local. Sem querer delegar trabalho para ninguém, eu sugiro que tu ou removas a área (posso fazer isso se quiseres), ou aproveite a oportunidade para traçar um contorno mais exato. Nota também que logo a oeste desse local existe uma área residencial dentro dos (supostos) limites da Área de Proteção Especial Córrego Taboão. Poderíamos retraçar a área para exibir os limites de facto da UC, ou manter os limites oficias. Acho que deveríamos adotar um critério geral para tratar casos como esse. Augusto. On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 08:14 -0200, Gerald Weber wrote: Oi Augusto Eu conferi uma área que eu conheço razoávelmente bem que é o Parque do Rola Moça em Nova Lima: http://osm.org/go/PAWd_mAl- Eu diria que basicamente não tem nada a ver com a área real do parque que é muito maior do que isto. A estrada secundária que você vê passando embaixo passa bem no meio do parque. abraço Gerald PS: eu concordo com o Fernando, você precisa criar um usuário específico para esta importação. 2013/11/9 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Acabei de fazer uma importação de unidades de conservação. Os dados vêm do arquivo LIM_UNIDADE_CONSERVACAO_NAO_SNUC_A.shp da base cartográfica escala 250 mil do IBGE, ou seja, são informações que (suponho) o MMA e o ICMBio não coleta. Esses dados parecem bem piores que os dados do ICMBio que eu pretendo processar em breve. Em algumas dados que particularmente ruins, eu adicionei um comentário na tag fixme. Sinta-se à vontade para fazer alterações ou deletar algo que pareça não fazer sentido. A maioria das unidades ficam no sudeste, em particular há várias no entorno de Belo Horizonte. Um caso que eu vou deixar para o pessoal da região da divisa SP/MS/PR decidir é a tal da Reserva Estadual Pontal do Paranapanema, que parece só existir em teoria (a área contém apenas fazendas): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3317528 Para referência, esses são os chageset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808365 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808320 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18807980 Pretendo documentar a importação na wiki em breve. On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 09:35 -0500, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Há algum tempo eu falei em importar parques nacionais e outras áreas protegidas. Adicionei algumas unidades de conservação e uma terra indígena ao mapa (dados da base 250 mil do IBGE): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300492 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300496 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/243992224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244469951 Teríamos que decidir se a qualidade desses dados é suficiente para os nosso propósitos, e se as tags estão a contento (de acordo com https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary% 3Dprotected_area ). O principal refinamento a ser feito após a importação seria substituir os traçados que acompanham a orla de um rio ou oceano pelos traçados já existentes no OSM, usando uma relação (mas deixe as áreas acima como estão por enquanto para que os outros possam ver o original). Isso é algo que eu deixaria para as
Re: [Talk-br] RES: Áreas protegidas
Que sistema de coordenadas é este, e como convertê-lo para as coordenadas que estamos acostumados a usar no OSM? []s Arlindo 2013/11/11 Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com Isso mesmo, legal, obrigado :) 2013/11/11 Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br Gerald, Por acaso era isso que você estava procurando : http://www2.normaambiental.com.br/bolzan/lpext.dll/np/Infobase8/1ece4c0/1eda4c9/1edd756?f=templatesfn=document-frame.htm2.0#JD_MGDecreto3607194-Art3%BA ___ [image: cid:AEB89D39-0ED3-48AF-9EB7-EF84C2B4BC40] Reinaldo Neves Equação Informática (: (11) 3221-3722 ***: rne...@equacao.com.br *De:* Gerald Weber [mailto:gwebe...@gmail.com] *Enviada em:* domingo, 10 de novembro de 2013 18:24 *Para:* OSM talk-br *Assunto:* Re: [Talk-br] Áreas protegidas Oi Augsto concordo com você. Há tempos eu gostaria de mapear os contornos exatos do Parque do Rola Moça, mas nunca achei dados para isto. Pela caraterística do parque não dá para fazer isto percorrendo com um GPS. Uma possibilidade seria extrair as coordenadas direto da Lei de criação do parque, mas nem isto achei. Talvez não procurei suficiente. Eu acho que podemos deixar por ora, até acharmos dados melhores. abraço Gerald 2013/11/10 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Gerald, Eu acho que ajustar isso seria uma tarefa para quem conhece o local. Sem querer delegar trabalho para ninguém, eu sugiro que tu ou removas a área (posso fazer isso se quiseres), ou aproveite a oportunidade para traçar um contorno mais exato. Nota também que logo a oeste desse local existe uma área residencial dentro dos (supostos) limites da Área de Proteção Especial Córrego Taboão. Poderíamos retraçar a área para exibir os limites de facto da UC, ou manter os limites oficias. Acho que deveríamos adotar um critério geral para tratar casos como esse. Augusto. On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 08:14 -0200, Gerald Weber wrote: Oi Augusto Eu conferi uma área que eu conheço razoávelmente bem que é o Parque do Rola Moça em Nova Lima: http://osm.org/go/PAWd_mAl- Eu diria que basicamente não tem nada a ver com a área real do parque que é muito maior do que isto. A estrada secundária que você vê passando embaixo passa bem no meio do parque. abraço Gerald PS: eu concordo com o Fernando, você precisa criar um usuário específico para esta importação. 2013/11/9 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Acabei de fazer uma importação de unidades de conservação. Os dados vêm do arquivo LIM_UNIDADE_CONSERVACAO_NAO_SNUC_A.shp da base cartográfica escala 250 mil do IBGE, ou seja, são informações que (suponho) o MMA e o ICMBio não coleta. Esses dados parecem bem piores que os dados do ICMBio que eu pretendo processar em breve. Em algumas dados que particularmente ruins, eu adicionei um comentário na tag fixme. Sinta-se à vontade para fazer alterações ou deletar algo que pareça não fazer sentido. A maioria das unidades ficam no sudeste, em particular há várias no entorno de Belo Horizonte. Um caso que eu vou deixar para o pessoal da região da divisa SP/MS/PR decidir é a tal da Reserva Estadual Pontal do Paranapanema, que parece só existir em teoria (a área contém apenas fazendas): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3317528 Para referência, esses são os chageset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808365 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808320 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18807980 Pretendo documentar a importação na wiki em breve. On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 09:35 -0500, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Há algum tempo eu falei em importar parques nacionais e outras áreas protegidas. Adicionei algumas unidades de conservação e uma terra indígena ao mapa (dados da base 250 mil do IBGE): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300492 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300496 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/243992224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244469951 Teríamos que decidir se a qualidade desses dados é suficiente para os nosso propósitos, e se as tags estão a contento (de acordo com https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary% 3Dprotected_area ). O principal refinamento a ser feito após a importação seria substituir os traçados que acompanham a orla de um rio ou oceano pelos traçados já existentes no OSM, usando uma relação
Re: [Talk-br] RES: Áreas protegidas
Sei muito pouco sobre conversões de coordenadas, mas a ajuda do JOSM pode dar alguma pista: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Concepts/Coordinates#UTM 2013/11/11 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com Que sistema de coordenadas é este, e como convertê-lo para as coordenadas que estamos acostumados a usar no OSM? []s Arlindo 2013/11/11 Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com Isso mesmo, legal, obrigado :) 2013/11/11 Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br Gerald, Por acaso era isso que você estava procurando : http://www2.normaambiental.com.br/bolzan/lpext.dll/np/Infobase8/1ece4c0/1eda4c9/1edd756?f=templatesfn=document-frame.htm2.0#JD_MGDecreto3607194-Art3%BA ___ [image: cid:AEB89D39-0ED3-48AF-9EB7-EF84C2B4BC40] Reinaldo Neves Equação Informática (: (11) 3221-3722 ***: rne...@equacao.com.br *De:* Gerald Weber [mailto:gwebe...@gmail.com] *Enviada em:* domingo, 10 de novembro de 2013 18:24 *Para:* OSM talk-br *Assunto:* Re: [Talk-br] Áreas protegidas Oi Augsto concordo com você. Há tempos eu gostaria de mapear os contornos exatos do Parque do Rola Moça, mas nunca achei dados para isto. Pela caraterística do parque não dá para fazer isto percorrendo com um GPS. Uma possibilidade seria extrair as coordenadas direto da Lei de criação do parque, mas nem isto achei. Talvez não procurei suficiente. Eu acho que podemos deixar por ora, até acharmos dados melhores. abraço Gerald 2013/11/10 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Gerald, Eu acho que ajustar isso seria uma tarefa para quem conhece o local. Sem querer delegar trabalho para ninguém, eu sugiro que tu ou removas a área (posso fazer isso se quiseres), ou aproveite a oportunidade para traçar um contorno mais exato. Nota também que logo a oeste desse local existe uma área residencial dentro dos (supostos) limites da Área de Proteção Especial Córrego Taboão. Poderíamos retraçar a área para exibir os limites de facto da UC, ou manter os limites oficias. Acho que deveríamos adotar um critério geral para tratar casos como esse. Augusto. On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 08:14 -0200, Gerald Weber wrote: Oi Augusto Eu conferi uma área que eu conheço razoávelmente bem que é o Parque do Rola Moça em Nova Lima: http://osm.org/go/PAWd_mAl- Eu diria que basicamente não tem nada a ver com a área real do parque que é muito maior do que isto. A estrada secundária que você vê passando embaixo passa bem no meio do parque. abraço Gerald PS: eu concordo com o Fernando, você precisa criar um usuário específico para esta importação. 2013/11/9 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br Acabei de fazer uma importação de unidades de conservação. Os dados vêm do arquivo LIM_UNIDADE_CONSERVACAO_NAO_SNUC_A.shp da base cartográfica escala 250 mil do IBGE, ou seja, são informações que (suponho) o MMA e o ICMBio não coleta. Esses dados parecem bem piores que os dados do ICMBio que eu pretendo processar em breve. Em algumas dados que particularmente ruins, eu adicionei um comentário na tag fixme. Sinta-se à vontade para fazer alterações ou deletar algo que pareça não fazer sentido. A maioria das unidades ficam no sudeste, em particular há várias no entorno de Belo Horizonte. Um caso que eu vou deixar para o pessoal da região da divisa SP/MS/PR decidir é a tal da Reserva Estadual Pontal do Paranapanema, que parece só existir em teoria (a área contém apenas fazendas): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3317528 Para referência, esses são os chageset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808365 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18808320 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18807980 Pretendo documentar a importação na wiki em breve. On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 09:35 -0500, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Há algum tempo eu falei em importar parques nacionais e outras áreas protegidas. Adicionei algumas unidades de conservação e uma terra indígena ao mapa (dados da base 250 mil do IBGE): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300492 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3300496 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/243992224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244469951 Teríamos que decidir se a qualidade desses dados é suficiente para os nosso propósitos, e se as tags estão a contento (de acordo com https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary% 3Dprotected_area ). O
Re: [Talk-br] ICMBio
Oi Augusto, se fazer uma importação automatizada, por favor considere que algumas áreas de conservação já se encontram no OSM, e que não deveriam ser sobrepostas ou substituídas sem controle manual. Por exemplo, o mapa no OSM da RESEXmar Caeté-Taperaçu aqui na região de Bragança-PA, editado manualmente de acordo com o documento oficial que especifica detalhadamente os limites, é diferente do mapa do IBAMA (que apresenta erros ...). Abraço, Ulf On 10/11/13 16:28, Augusto Stoffel wrote: Esta mensagem é para registrar a resposta que obtive do ICMBio sobre a disponibilidade dos dados publicados por eles: Informo que os arquivos shapefile referentes aos limites das unidades de conservação federais, disponibilizados no site do ICMBio, na aba Serviços Geoprocessamento Mapa temático e dados geoestatísticos das UC ́s são considerados públicos e podem ser utilizados, desde que citada a fonte (vide ABNT). A comunicação completa com o ICMBio via e-SIC [1] está em anexo. Estou interpretando que está tudo OK para importar, e vou trabalhar nisso nas próximas semanas. As unidades de conservação possuem um número identificador do CNUC (Cadastro Nacional de Unidades de Conservação), que faria sentido manter em uma tag especial. Alguma preferência entre cnuc_id, ou cnuc:id, ou alguma outra? [1] http://www.acessoainformacao.gov.br/sistema/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Dr. Ulf Mehlig · Laboratorio de Biologia Vegetal Instituto de Estudos Costeiros Universidade Federal do Para, Campus Braganca -- ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
Hallo Johann 2013/11/10 Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net ich übersehe vermutlich das offensichtliche: Wie bringt man das Ding dazu, keine Pläne mit einem Gefühlten Seitenverhältnis 4:1 (Briefkastenschlitzformat) herzustellen? Ich habe gerade entdeckt, dass man mit STRG+Klick einen Bereich manuell auswählen kann. Diesen Bereich kann man wieder mit dem Zuschneiden-Symbol unten links zurücksetzen. Das Symbol hat die Tooltip-Beschriftung Klar ausgewählter Bereich (sic) . Ich werden den Übersetzungsfehler heute noch melden und dabei fragen, ob die Auswahl mit STRG nicht dokumentiert werden soll (-; Ansonsten ist es ein toller Dienst! Viele Grüße ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Hallo, Bei mir hat gerade ein betroffener Mannheimer Kartenanwender nachgefragt. Wie ist der aktuelle Stand? Könnte man kurzfristig zumindest den deutschen Kartenstil anpassen? Grüße Joachim ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Am 11. November 2013 09:48 schrieb Joachim Kast osm...@dd1gj.de: Hallo, Bei mir hat gerade ein betroffener Mannheimer Kartenanwender nachgefragt. Wie ist der aktuelle Stand? es sieht so aus, als gäbe es einen Pull-Request der im vorliegenden Fall dazu führen würde, dass der Quadrat-Name wieder gerendert würde, wobei noch die Frage offen bleibt, ob place=neighbourhood ein guter Tag ist, um diese Quadrate zu beschreiben, oder ob ggf. ein anderer Tag mehr Sinn machen würde, evtl. etwas spezifisches für Mannheim. Was jedenfalls den Pull-Request angeht so ist der wohl erstmal vertagt: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/28 *Gruß Martin* ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: wobei noch die Frage offen bleibt, ob place=neighbourhood ein guter Tag ist, um diese Quadrate zu beschreiben, oder ob ggf. ein anderer Tag mehr Sinn machen würde, evtl. etwas spezifisches für Mannheim. Was spräche gegen z.B. ref:block=* als Tag? Damit könnte man dann nicht nur die Mannheimer Quadrate (die ja auch irgendwie als Straßenblock ansehbar sind) taggen, sondern auch exakt bezeichnete Blöcke in anderen Städten. Oder falls das nicht erwünscht ist, weil Mannheim die einzige Stadt der Welt ist, wo Straßenblöcke genau bezeichnet sind (was ich mir nicht vorstellen kann, aber nehmen wir das mal an *g*), böte sich halt analog zum bereits vorhandenen Tag ref:svhl=* (Stationsschlüssel des Lübecker Stadtverkehrs) zum Beispiel ref:mannheim_squares=* (o.Ä.) als spezifischen Mannheimer-Quadrate-Tag an. … wobei ich die Idee eines generischen Straßenblocktags irgendwie schöner gelöst finden würde. Grüße, Dirk -- Local time :: Ortszeit :: DE-HH 2013-11-11T11:46:42+0100 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: es sieht so aus, als gäbe es einen Pull-Request der im vorliegenden Fall dazu führen würde, dass der Quadrat-Name wieder gerendert würde Bist Du sicher? Das hier https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/28/files bezieht sich IMO nur auf punktuelle Objekte, die mit [place] = 'neighbourhood' getaggt wurden aber eben nicht auf Flächen. Allerdings kenne ich mich mit Carto nicht aus und habe daher keine Ahnung wo jetzt genau festgelegt wird auf welche Tabelle sich das bezieht. Im alten Stil beziehen sich diese Sachen jedenfalls nicht auf Flächen. Sven -- Whenever there is a conflict between human rights and property rights, human rights must prevail. (Abraham Lincoln) /me is giggls@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Am 11.11.2013 11:54, schrieb Dirk Sohler: Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: wobei noch die Frage offen bleibt, ob place=neighbourhood ein guter Tag ist, um diese Quadrate zu beschreiben, oder ob ggf. ein anderer Tag mehr Sinn machen würde, evtl. etwas spezifisches für Mannheim. Was spräche gegen z.B. ref:block=* als Tag? Damit könnte man dann nicht nur die Mannheimer Quadrate (die ja auch irgendwie als Straßenblock ansehbar sind) taggen, sondern auch exakt bezeichnete Blöcke in anderen Städten. ref:block oder addr:block? Gruß Peter ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] JOSM-Preset
Wer kennt sich mit der Erstellung von JOSM-Presets aus, und kann einer netten Taucherin helfen? (Sprachversionen und Icons einbinden) Ich habe hier eine Anfrage per PM :-) (deutsch) Ich würde dann den Kontakt herstellen... Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Peter Wendorff schrieb: ref:block oder addr:block? Ich kenne mich in Manheim nicht aus. Ist es so, dass die Quadratnummer eher als Zuordnung/Referenz benutzt wird, oder ist sie ein Teil der Adresse? Im Zweifelsfall einfach block=* … :) Grüße, Dirk -- Local time :: Ortszeit :: DE-HH 2013-11-11T14:56:27+0100 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Am 11. November 2013 12:08 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de : Was spräche gegen z.B. ref:block=* als Tag? Damit könnte man dann nicht nur die Mannheimer Quadrate (die ja auch irgendwie als Straßenblock ansehbar sind) taggen, sondern auch exakt bezeichnete Blöcke in anderen Städten. ref:block oder addr:block? ja, ich hatte auch eher an addr:block gedacht, weil das wohl ein Adressbestandteil ist? Hier gibt es mehr Infos: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratestadt Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Hi allerseits, addr:block wäre korrekt, da es hier um die Adresse geht: Manuela Mustermann F5, 13 12345 Mannheim Grüße, Simeon Am 11.11.2013 14:59 schrieb Dirk Sohler: Peter Wendorff schrieb: ref:block oder addr:block? Ich kenne mich in Manheim nicht aus. Ist es so, dass die Quadratnummer eher als Zuordnung/Referenz benutzt wird, oder ist sie ein Teil der Adresse? Im Zweifelsfall einfach block=* … :) Grüße, Dirk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Am 11. November 2013 15:19 schrieb Theodin theo...@posteo.de: Hi allerseits, addr:block wäre korrekt, da es hier um die Adresse geht: Manuela Mustermann F5, 13 12345 Mannheim Wenn Ihr das so taggt, sollte der Name schon heute wieder auf der Karte gerendert werden (sofern kein place-tag zusätzlich drauf ist). Ist aber nur ein Nebeneffekt dessen, dass alle Flächen beschriftet werden (zumindest noch derzeit, soweit ich weiss, Andy will das aber wohl mittelfristig ändern). Wenn das alles so getaggt ist, wird ggf. auch die Karte eine extra Regel für diese Art von Adressen einführen (genau weiss man das natürlich nicht, aber wenn genug Leute anfragen ;-) ). place=neighbourhood halte ich allgemein für keinen guten tag für diese Vierecke bzw. Blöcke, insbesondere, als place mit name ein tag für Toponyme ist, und A oder D sind doch keine Ortsnamen, oder? Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 03:25:50PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 11. November 2013 15:19 schrieb Theodin theo...@posteo.de: Hi allerseits, addr:block wäre korrekt, da es hier um die Adresse geht: Manuela Mustermann F5, 13 12345 Mannheim Wenn Ihr das so taggt, sollte der Name schon heute wieder auf der Karte gerendert werden (sofern kein place-tag zusätzlich drauf ist). Ist aber nur ein Nebeneffekt dessen, dass alle Flächen beschriftet werden (zumindest noch derzeit, soweit ich weiss, Andy will das aber wohl mittelfristig ändern). Wenn das alles so getaggt ist, wird ggf. auch die Karte eine extra Regel für diese Art von Adressen einführen (genau weiss man das natürlich nicht, aber wenn genug Leute anfragen ;-) ). place=neighbourhood halte ich allgemein für keinen guten tag für diese Vierecke bzw. Blöcke, insbesondere, als place mit name ein tag für Toponyme ist, und A oder D sind doch keine Ortsnamen, oder? Die Blöcke sind aktuell so getaggt, weil dann Nominatim die Addressen richtig auflöst (via addr:place bei der Hausnummer). Kann man sich jetzt streiten, ob das gut oder schlecht ist, aber wenn ihr das schon ändern wollt, würde ich eher vorschlagen, das in das bestehende Schema einzubauen. Das heisst, die Addressen taggen mit: addr:housenumber=13 addr:place=F5 (oder addr:block, wenn es nun gar nicht anders geht) und dann den Block mit place=block (oder vielleicht city_block) name=F5 Block-Address-Schemata gibt es übrigens auch in einigen anderen Ecken der Welt. Die Japaner hatten letztens mal eine RFC: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-September/014867.html Ich finde deren Vorschlag auch nicht optimal (eben weil er auch wieder eine Sonderbehandlung braucht), aber vielleicht könnte man sich mal zusammentun und etwas einheitliches entwickeln. Gruss Sarah ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern
Am 10.11.13 schrieb malenki: Planst du regelmäßige Updates der Liste? Nicht regelmäßiger, als full-history-dumps erscheinen. Mit denen ist der Aufwand recht überschaubar. Viele Grüße, Fabian.___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Call for Papers FOSSGIS 2014 in Berlin
Hi, im Maerz ist ja die FOSSGIS-Konferenz in Berlin, wie gewohnt mit viel Raum fuer OSM-Vortraege. Astrid hat im September hier geschrieben: ABSTRACT: Die Einreichung eines Abstracts für die FOSSGIS 2014 ist ab sofort bis zum 15. November 2013 über unsere Konferenzsoftware Pentabarf möglich [2]. Die Frist ist jetzt bis Ende November verlaengert worden. Wer also, wie ich, bislang nicht so richtig in die Puschen gekommen ist, einen Vortrag einzureichen, der hat jetzt noch gut zwei Wochen Zeit ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] JOSM-Preset
Hallo Markus, sie kennt diese Seite http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Anpassen_der_Vorlagen_von_JOSM Da sollte das wichtigste beantwortet sein. Wenn es dann noch Probleme gibt würde ich auch als Tester fungieren und eventuelle Korrekturen per Mail beantworten. Viele Grüße Gisbert Am 11.11.2013 14:04, schrieb Markus: Wer kennt sich mit der Erstellung von JOSM-Presets aus, und kann einer netten Taucherin helfen? (Sprachversionen und Icons einbinden) Ich habe hier eine Anfrage per PM :-) (deutsch) Ich würde dann den Kontakt herstellen... Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
On 2013-11-10 at 21:16:33 +0100, Simone Cortesi wrote: 2013/11/10 Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com: ho forwardato la richiesta sulle mailing list di qualche LUG e ci sono già un paio di interessati, anche se ancora non hanno dato risposta a nessuna delle tre domande (salvo in un caso dire da auto). ok, arbitrariamente decidero' quando chiudere la call :) mi sembra saggio, che qui si sta parlando di riferire le risposte di un branco di gatti :) comunque io di sicuro ne prendo almeno per 10 euro, qualunque siano dimensioni / costo (almeno = più eventuali altri dei LUG che si uniscono) quanto preavviso ci dai? 1 ora? 24 ore? :) P.S. altra risposta arrivata da auto è inteso come circa 12 cm di diametro. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] adesivi
Il 11 novembre 2013 09:28, Elena ``of Valhalla'' ha scritto: comunque io di sicuro ne prendo almeno per 10 euro, qualunque siano dimensioni / costo anche io prenderei 10 Euro di adesivi, qualunque dimensione, costo e immagine, non sarebbe male se fossero tondi -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
http://opensciencemap.org/~jeff/test/#scale=16,rot=254,tilt=65,lat=48.89,lon=2.242 Qui siamo davanti a tile rendering, ma comunque fa il suo bel effetto. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
Non vedo nulla... solo la casella search. Se cerco una città, mi visualizza il confine e null'altro Il giorno 11 novembre 2013 10:37, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.comha scritto: http://opensciencemap.org/~jeff/test/#scale=16,rot=254,tilt=65,lat=48.89,lon=2.242 Qui siamo davanti a tile rendering, ma comunque fa il suo bel effetto. -- Maurizio Daniele mail: maurizio.dani...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
Strano abbi un attimo di pazienza, perchè su firefox impiega. Tra l'altro ho anche sbagliato: non sono tile raster, ma tile vector che vengono rappresentate tramite webGL Per la rappresentazione 3D devi tenere premuto il tasto centrale del mouse a lungo e ruotare 2013/11/11 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Non vedo nulla... solo la casella search. Se cerco una città, mi visualizza il confine e null'altro Il giorno 11 novembre 2013 10:37, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: http://opensciencemap.org/~jeff/test/#scale=16,rot=254,tilt=65,lat=48.89,lon=2.242 Qui siamo davanti a tile rendering, ma comunque fa il suo bel effetto. -- Maurizio Daniele mail: maurizio.dani...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
uff ... il tasto destro non quello centrale ... 2013/11/11 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: Strano abbi un attimo di pazienza, perchè su firefox impiega. Tra l'altro ho anche sbagliato: non sono tile raster, ma tile vector che vengono rappresentate tramite webGL Per la rappresentazione 3D devi tenere premuto il tasto centrale del mouse a lungo e ruotare 2013/11/11 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Non vedo nulla... solo la casella search. Se cerco una città, mi visualizza il confine e null'altro Il giorno 11 novembre 2013 10:37, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: http://opensciencemap.org/~jeff/test/#scale=16,rot=254,tilt=65,lat=48.89,lon=2.242 Qui siamo davanti a tile rendering, ma comunque fa il suo bel effetto. -- Maurizio Daniele mail: maurizio.dani...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
2013/11/11 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: uff ... il tasto destro non quello centrale ... nice, c'e' anche il sorgente: https://github.com/hjanetzek/vtm -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Modifiche ai propri dati inseriti
Come funziona? Che dati dovrei inserire per farlo funzionare? Grazie Da: Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Inviato: Lunedì 11 Novembre 2013 1:11 Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Modifiche ai propri dati inseriti On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM, bredy bredy...@yahoo.it wrote: C'è un modo per sapere se qualcuno fa delle modifiche ai dati che abbiamo inserito nella mappa in modo automatico? puoi usare questo tool http://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/ e farti mandare una mail quando avvengono modifiche non fatte da te. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Proposta di roadmap per il capitolo italiano OpenStreetMap Foundation
Ciao, ad OSMIT ci siamo fatti la domanda Vogliamo creare il capitolo italiano della OpenStreetMap Foundation?, non ci siamo fermati, e, per questo ora abbiamo scritto questa lunga mail. Procuratevi un caffè e tornate qui a rileggerla fra qualche minuto, con calma. Trovate sotto qui un riassunto e più avanti la versione completa. == TL;DR == * Sabato 19 Ottobre, a Bologna, ha avuto luogo l'assemblea dei soci di Wikimedia Italia (WMI). * In seguito alla discussione fatta a Rovereto (TN) durante OSMIT, è stata sottoposta in quella sede l’idea di fare diventare WMI capitolo italiano di OSM Foundation. L’idea è piaciuta ai soci di WMI. * Ora serve dimostrare l’interesse da parte di OSM, per cui per contribuire alla creazione del capitolo iscriviti a Wikimedia Italia e indica nella causale per costituire il capitolo OSM italiano https://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Iscrizioni * Raggiunti 10 nuovi soci Wikimedia Italia inizierà ad indicare Wikimedia Italia come Gruppo di lavoro per OSM Italia. * Raggiunti 25 soci si farà richiesta a OSM Foundation di diventare capitolo italiano ufficiale. * Concorrono al raggiungimento di questi valori (10 e 25) anche coloro i quali siano già soci di Wikimedia Italia e abbiano effettuato almeno 50 modifiche su OpenStreetMap e che contribuiscano da almeno 3 mesi. * A marzo c'è il rinnovo delle cariche del direttivo di WMI, pensateci e candidatevi! == VERSIONE COMPLETA == Come sapete il mese scorso, a Bologna c'è stata l'Assemblea annuale dei soci di Wikimedia Italia; come preannunciato su questa lista si è parlato della possibilità di fare un percorso per fare diventare Wikimedia Italia il capitolo di OpenStreetMap Foundation in Italia, proseguendo le discussioni fatte ad OSMit a Rovereto. Ai soci di WMI l'idea è piacuta ed insieme a loro abbiamo scritto questa possibile roadmap, che condivido qui sotto. Ogni commento è il benvenuto. === PRINCIPI DI BASE === 0. Wikimedia Italia ha come scopo la diffusione della conoscenza libera. Da statuto (art. 3 - Finalità e attività): «Wikimedia Italia persegue esclusivamente finalità di solidarietà sociale nel campo della promozione della cultura. L'Associazione ha per obiettivo di contribuire attivamente a diffusione, miglioramento e avanzamento del sapere e della cultura promuovendo la produzione, raccolta e diffusione gratuita di contenuti liberi (Open Content) per incentivare le possibilità di accesso alla conoscenza e alla formazione. Sono definiti contenuti liberi nel senso inteso dall'associazione tutte le opere che sono state contrassegnate dai loro autori con una licenza che ne permetta l'elaborazione e/o la diffusione gratuita. In aggiunta a ciò sarà approfondita anche la conoscenza e la consapevolezza delle questioni sociali e filosofiche correlate.» 1. Wikimedia Italia è una e indivisibile e fondata sul lavoro (dei soci). L'idea di fare il capitolo italiano di OSMF dentro Wikimedia Italia è quello di stare insieme, quindi fatto salvo un periodo di transizione iniziale non esisteranno distinzioni interne tra soci pro Wikipedia e soci pro OpenStreetMap. Si potranno creare, se i soci lo vorranno, delle nuove liste tematiche e/o locali. 2. Wikimedia Italia non ha altre braccia che non quelle dei soci. Il direttivo decide in nome e per conto dell'assemblea, ad esempio, se spendere dei soldi per realizzare un certo progetto, ma non è il direttivo a stabilire quali progetti realizzare, i progetti dell'associazione sono progetti dei soci. Quindi non c'è bisogno di creare quote di progetto pro Wikipedia e quote pro OSM. Un gruppo di soci è in contatto con una scuola interessata a fare un corso su OSM? Benissimo, quale aiuto vi serve?. Un altro gruppo vuole fare un Wikipedia Day nella sua città? Bello, cosa possiamo fare per voi? Quello che Wikimedia Italia come associazione può fare è comunicare con i soci e i simpatizzanti attraverso il suo sito, le sue liste, mettere l'evento nel suo calendario pubblico, contattare i soci di una determinata zona e mettere una notizia nella sua newsletter. Se c'è bisogno di risorse (per comprare del materiale, per stampare dei volantini, ecc.) si può fare anche questo, chiedendo al direttivo. Se è un progetto grande di solito deve essere supportato da un certo numero di soci, se è un progetto grandissimo (es. organizzare il prossimo State of the Map in Italia) allora se ne parla diffusamente in lista e si chiede all'assemblea tutta di approvare il progetto. Mi raccontano che non ci sono mai stati progetti che sono stati respinti per mancanza di risorse materiali, ma solo perché non c'erano abbastanza soci interessati a portarli avanti. 3. Il capitolo italiano di OSMF *non* gestisce OpenStreetMap in Italia. Così come accade per i capitoli di Wikimedia Foundation, il capitolo non gestisce i Wikipedia e non possiede i server. Vogliamo promuovere i progetti anche invitando il pubblico a partecipare, ma se qualcuno ci chiederà perché non mettete l'icona dei bar in giallo? risponderemo Non siamo
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
Solo a me dà: - Sorry, your browser doesn't seem to support WebGL - Provato sia con Chromium sia con Iceweasel, su Debian Jessie. Grazie! Carlo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
Anche a me stessa cosa Mich74 Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 11/nov/2013, alle ore 11:41, Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com ha scritto: Solo a me dà: - Sorry, your browser doesn't seem to support WebGL - Provato sia con Chromium sia con Iceweasel, su Debian Jessie. Grazie! Carlo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] JOSM e PCN 2006
Ma succede solo a me che in questi ultimi giorni le immagini PCN 2006 dentro JOSM si scaricano con tempi davvero biblici? (tipo clicca e vài a prenderti un caffè...) Praticamente con questi tempi è impossibile usarlo... Grazie --enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/JOSM-e-PCN-2006-tp5784960.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] altra mappa 3D basata su OSM
Ora a me funziona (firefox su winXP). Dev'essere stato, nel mio caso, una questione temporanea. Mi è tornata la voglia di mappare un po' di caratteristiche 3D degli edifici... :D 2013/11/11 Michele Malfatti michele.malfa...@gmail.com Anche a me stessa cosa Mich74 -- Maurizio Daniele mail: maurizio.dani...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] JOSM e PCN 2006
2013/11/11 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it Ma succede solo a me che in questi ultimi giorni le immagini PCN 2006 dentro JOSM si scaricano con tempi davvero biblici? (tipo clicca e vài a prenderti un caffè...) Praticamente con questi tempi è impossibile usarlo... Penso ci sia un bug (forse lo hanno già corretto, non lo so, ma qualche giorno fa c'era un bug). Poi hanno cambiato il comportamento di default, ed adesso mettono rescale automaticamente come standard (cosa secondo me è una @#!), quindi la prima mossa dopo aver aggiungto e settato il WMS sulla risoluzione adatta tocca togliere la croce da quella voce (con click destro sul layer nel menu e togliere adapt to scale (o simile)), altrimenti ricarica tutti i tiles ogni volta che usi lo zoom (impedisce anche il caching). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] [HOT] ricalco foto per zone colpite da tifone
We need helping tracing satellite imagery for Typhoon Haiyan. http://t.co/TOQAoB0FD6 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] R: Quanti civici avete inseriti?
Ecco il mio score! J 3670 GiuseppeAmici_IT 2871 Ho qualche perplessità sui dati ISTAT. Il civico io lo metto fisicamente sulla porta a cui corrisponde. Non credo che con i dati ISTAT importati massivamente si possa fare questo lavoro di fino. Ciao Beppe Da: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Inviato: lunedì 11 novembre 2013 16:57 A: openstreetmap list - italiano; talk-it-la...@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: [Talk-it] Quanti civici avete inseriti? E' uscita una nuova elaborazione sulla quantità di civici che un utente ha inserito, potete cercare il vostro username qui: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~fschmidt/housenumbers13.html Mi rendo conto, probabilmente pochi mesi prima che l'ISTAT rilascierà i civici italiani la motivazione è bassa ;-) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quanti civici avete inseriti?
Non capisco quelli con segno negativo. Son quelli cancellati? Il 11 novembre 2013 16:57, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: E' uscita una nuova elaborazione sulla quantità di civici che un utente ha inserito, potete cercare il vostro username qui: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~fschmidt/housenumbers13.html Mi rendo conto, probabilmente pochi mesi prima che l'ISTAT rilascierà i civici italiani la motivazione è bassa ;-) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Quanti civici avete inseriti?
2013/11/11 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it: Ho qualche perplessità sui dati ISTAT. Il civico io lo metto fisicamente sulla porta a cui corrisponde. Non credo che con i dati ISTAT importati massivamente si possa fare questo lavoro di fino. la mia idea sarebbe quella di fare un import assistito. usando osmly.com (sono in contatto con lo sviluppatore e lo sta adattando allo scopo). in pratica ti si presenterà una finestra dove potrai scegliere se la posizione del civico è corretta vicino alla porta di ingresso o se va spostata. da istat mi dicono che il civico è posizionato sul centroide del palazzo. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quanti civici avete inseriti?
2013/11/11 Odeeno ode...@yahoo.it Non capisco quelli con segno negativo. Son quelli cancellati? il primo numero è la quantità attuale di civici inseriti (però le cancellazioni ti tolgono uno, quindi i negativi) il secondo numero è la differenza tra l'anno scorso ad oggi. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quanti civici avete inseriti?
44, ma sono solo all'inizio! Davvero l'ISTAT rilascierà tali informazioni? Certamente bisognerà poi vedere quanto sono precisi... Il 11 novembre 2013 16:57, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: E' uscita una nuova elaborazione sulla quantità di civici che un utente ha inserito, potete cercare il vostro username qui: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~fschmidt/housenumbers13.html Mi rendo conto, probabilmente pochi mesi prima che l'ISTAT rilascierà i civici italiani la motivazione è bassa ;-) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Quanti civici avete inseriti?
2013/11/11 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com se la posizione del civico è corretta vicino alla porta di ingresso o se va spostata. da istat mi dicono che il civico è posizionato sul centroide del palazzo. può essere meglio usare un'area per gli indirizzi, perché consente di inferire gli indirizzi per tutto ciò incluso nel perimetro, ma potrebbe anche dipendere come sono definiti legalmente. Gli ingressi possiamo comunque sempre mappare con entrance=main/yes ecc. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quanti civici avete inseriti?
sul sito da te indicato risulto averne messi 344 mentre sul sito http://osmstats.hanskalabs.net risultano 592 indirizzi inseriti. se faccio con josm una ricerca nel mio comune (dove sono concentrati buona parte dei civici che ho inserito) risultano più di 370 numeri civici (parlo solo di nodi e non di aree) e questi sono sicurissimo siano stati tutti inseriti da me. :/ - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Quanti-civici-avete-inseriti-tp5784993p5785019.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Quanti civici avete inseriti?
2013/11/11 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com sul sito da te indicato risulto averne messi 344 mentre sul sito http://osmstats.hanskalabs.net risultano 592 indirizzi inseriti. se faccio con josm una ricerca nel mio comune (dove sono concentrati buona parte dei civici che ho inserito) risultano più di 370 numeri civici (parlo solo di nodi e non di aree) e questi sono sicurissimo siano stati tutti inseriti da me. :/ lo script ti toglie civici se li hai cancellati, ma possibile anche che ci stanno errori di conteggio. Si tratta di un script che conta tramite il full-history-planet. qui il blogpost http://osm.gryph.de/2012/12/1000-addresses/ e qui lo script: https://github.com/woodpeck/adrcount ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Quanti civici avete inseriti?
2013/11/11 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com Non sono mai stato d'accordo sul fatto di mettere i civici sugli edifici Spesso ci sono edifici con più civici. Inoltre il civico è, nella realtà dei fatti, una targhetta sull'ingresso dell'edificio, non riesco proprio a cogliere il vantaggio di metterlo sul poligono. il civico vale al solito per un area (o mi sbaglio già qui?). Sono d'accordo che metterlo sui edifici è spesso sbagliato. Non so quanto sia uniforme il sistema in Italia, qui a Roma ho notato in certe zone che ci possono essere negozi nel semi-interrato con un proprio civico diverso dal palazzo. Comunque, se ti trovi dentro un appartamento quello ha un civico, no? E solo dal nodo all'ingresso non lo potrai legare (spesso). Probabilmente i civici devono quasi mai andare sugli edifici, normalmente c'è qualche cortile o giardino anche compreso nel civico e quindi per lo più saranno lotti o particelle ad avere civici. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Quanti civici avete inseriti?
Se mi fossi impegnato un po' di più, avrei strappato il posto a Giuseppe amici... 2599 netti Il 11/nov/2013 20:16 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2013/11/11 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com Non sono mai stato d'accordo sul fatto di mettere i civici sugli edifici Spesso ci sono edifici con più civici. Inoltre il civico è, nella realtà dei fatti, una targhetta sull'ingresso dell'edificio, non riesco proprio a cogliere il vantaggio di metterlo sul poligono. il civico vale al solito per un area (o mi sbaglio già qui?). Sono d'accordo che metterlo sui edifici è spesso sbagliato. Non so quanto sia uniforme il sistema in Italia, qui a Roma ho notato in certe zone che ci possono essere negozi nel semi-interrato con un proprio civico diverso dal palazzo. Comunque, se ti trovi dentro un appartamento quello ha un civico, no? E solo dal nodo all'ingresso non lo potrai legare (spesso). Probabilmente i civici devono quasi mai andare sugli edifici, normalmente c'è qualche cortile o giardino anche compreso nel civico e quindi per lo più saranno lotti o particelle ad avere civici. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] OSRM su Wired
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/11/osrm/ ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-co] Cómo mejorar la información de las divisiones administrativas en OSM?
Hola: En el caso de Colombia, la mayoría de los municipios y muchos pueblos y caseríos se mapean apenas con esta información: place= is_in= Algunos cuentan también con divipola= En cambio, el DANE tiene las siguientes definiciones: Definciones: * Código Departamento: Código único asignado por el DANE al departamento (2 posiciones) * Código Municipio: Código único asignado por el DANE al municipio (5 posiciones) * Código Centro Poblado: Código asignado por el DANE para los centros poblados, donde las dos primeros caracteres corresponden al código del departamento, los tres siguientes al código del municipio al interior del departamento y los tres ultimos al código del centro poblado. * Nombre Departamento: Nombre del departamento * Nombre Municipio: Nombre del municipio *Nombre Centro Poblado: Nombre del centro poblado * Tipo: Categoría de la Entidad Territorial: CM: Cabecera Municipal TEBF: Territorios Especiales Biodiversos y Fronterizos (antes corregimientos departamentales, CD) CP: Centro Poblado no categorizado C: Centro Poblado tipo Corregimiento CAS Centro Poblado tipo Caserío IP: Centro Poblado tipo Inspección de Policía IPM: Centro Poblado tipo Inspección de Policía Municipal IPD: Centro Poblado tipo Inspección de Policía Departamental (ver http://sige.dane.gov.co/Geoportal/principal/documentos/Municipios%20y%20Cent ros%20Poblados.XLS y documento de trabajo: http://www.dane.gov.co/candane/images/DT_DANE/wp_dig_nuevas_divisiones.pdf) Me pregunto si no sería útil incluir esta información adicional, por ejemplo así: place_code= place_type= (según el caso, CM, CP, CAS etc., ver arriba). Un saludo, Federico ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] Cómo mejorar la información de las divisiones administrativas en OSM?
2013/11/11 Federico Explorador federico.explora...@nevados.org Hola: Hola En el caso de Colombia, la mayoría de los municipios y muchos pueblos y caseríos se mapean apenas con esta información: place= is_in= Algunos cuentan también con divipola= En cambio, el DANE tiene las siguientes definiciones: *Definciones:* * Código Departamento: Código único asignado por el DANE al departamento (2 posiciones) * Código Municipio: Código único asignado por el DANE al municipio (5 posiciones) * Código Centro Poblado: Código asignado por el DANE para los centros poblados, donde las dos primeros caracteres corresponden al código del departamento, los tres siguientes al código del municipio al interior del departamento y los tres ultimos al código del centro poblado. * Nombre Departamento: Nombre del departamento * Nombre Municipio: Nombre del municipio *Nombre Centro Poblado: Nombre del centro poblado * Tipo: Categoría de la Entidad Territorial: CM: Cabecera Municipal TEBF: Territorios Especiales Biodiversos y Fronterizos (antes corregimientos departamentales, CD) CP: Centro Poblado no categorizado C: Centro Poblado tipo Corregimiento CAS Centro Poblado tipo Caserío IP: Centro Poblado tipo Inspección de Policía IPM: Centro Poblado tipo Inspección de Policía Municipal IPD: Centro Poblado tipo Inspección de Policía Departamental (ver http://sige.dane.gov.co/Geoportal/principal/documentos/Municipios%20y%20Centros%20Poblados.XLSy documento de trabajo: http://www.dane.gov.co/candane/images/DT_DANE/wp_dig_nuevas_divisiones.pdf ) Me pregunto si no sería útil incluir esta información adicional, por ejemplo así: place_code= place_type= (según el caso, CM, CP, CAS etc., ver arriba). Creo que ese sería una buena misión para botika, a ver que dice IKKS su amanzador. salu2 Un saludo, Federico ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- #=# |___|__\___ | _ | |_ |} (_)(_) Twitter: @fredy_rivera Land Line: +57 8 2691389 Phone USA: (347) 688-4473 Mobil telephone: +57 3108206814 ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] Manual corrección imágenes Landsat 8
2013/11/11 Federico Explorador federico.explora...@nevados.org: Hola! Hola He revisado el documento y en internet y no he encontrado ningún “wms” para estas imágenes. La idea con las imágenes es descargarlas y trabajarlas en local con algún editor OSM que soporte Geotiff , ejemplo QGIS , también se podrían subir a una instancia de Geonode y luego servirlas como WMS. salu2 Saludos, Federico De: hyan...@gmail.com [mailto:hyan...@gmail.com] Enviado el: jueves, 07 de noviembre de 2013 01:17 p.m. Para: OpenStreetMap Colombia Asunto: Re: [Talk-co] Manual corrección imágenes Landsat 8 Chévere, ahora tan solo nos falta una guía sobre como calcar las imágenes usando el JOSM o Merkaartor. El 7 de noviembre de 2013 12:47, Claudia HUERTAS clauhuer...@gmail.com escribió: Hola a todos: Quiero compartirles este enlace que me enviaron hoy, sobre la descripción y corrección de imágenes Landsat 8 que escribió el IGAC. http://www.un-spider.org/about-us/news/colombia-igac-publishes-usgs-landsat-8-products-guide Buen día -- Claudia HUERTAS. ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- #=# |___|__\___ | _ | |_ |} (_)(_) Twitter: @fredy_rivera Land Line: +57 8 2691389 Phone USA: (347) 688-4473 Mobil telephone: +57 3108206814 ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] January Meeting
Hi everyone On Thursday we discussed getting together like last year for a December Saturday mini-mapping party with an Xmas curry afterwards, but none of our diaries would co-operate. So we decided to have the event on Saturday 11th January when we'll map Warwick (which needs some TLC) until it gets too cold/dark and then gather at a venue for some beers and a meal .or maybe two venues - one for beer and on for eats. Venue(s) TBA - anyone know of anywhere good/cheap? Even if you don't want to map just come along for the beer/food and a chat. Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops
Dear all, I noticed that we have nearly all bus stops in Birmingham on the map, including Naptan data, but most of the stops don't have a name tag. For the stops where we do have name tags, these tags are formed inconsistently. Name tags are necessary in order to display the name on the Transport layer, and to make them searchable. In Birmingham, all bus stops have a street name (Naptan: Street), which is the first line on the blue area of the shield, and a common name (Naptan: CommonName), often the intersecting street, which is the second line on the shield. Neither CommonName nor Street are individually sufficient to uniquely identify a stop, but together, they are. Some stops also have a red shield containing the interchange name (not in Naptan) plus a two or three character reference (Naptan: Indicator). A bus might stop at multiple stops of the same interchange. An example of a bus stop: Weoley Castle (Interchange) WE (Indicator) Castle Sq (Street name) Somerfield (Common name) The question is now, which of these should we use for the name tag? Currently, all of the following formats are in use: Street; CommonName CommonName CommonName Indicator InterchangeName Indicator Indicator Which format should we aim for? It should also be noted that the Naptan data contains some mistakes. Should we first check whether Naptan is correct, and then fill in the name tag? Or can we already add the name tags, and verify later? The first has the advantage that we only display correct names, while the second has the advantage that we have data quicker, and that errors might get discovered more quickly because the stop names will be displayed on the map. Please let me know what you think. Best regards, Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-se] Geocaching OSM-event i Stockholm
Hej! Jag är också lite nyfiken på att veta mer. Jag är inte så vass på kartritandet, men kanske kan bidra med att skriva dokument, kursupplägg eller liknande (som jag jobbat lite med tidigare)? Vad behövs? -- Vänliga hälsningar Peter Kindström Axel Pettersson axel.petters...@wikimedia.se skrev: Hej, Jag kan inte nog om OSM för att vara ledare/föreläsare, men tycker det låter intressant och vill lära mig mer. Var kan jag läsa mer om det här? Om det behövs en lokal att vara i finns möjlighet att vara hos Wikimedia Sverige på Hantverkargatan 21 också. Säg till i så fall. Kolla också på https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minibidrag_2013 om det behövs reseersättning eller liknande för någon av deltagarna. /axel Axel Pettersson Projektledare GLAM/Outreach Wikimedia Sverige +46 (0)733 96 55 65 axel.petters...@wikimedia.se Twitter: @Haxpett https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på donera.wikimedia.se https://donera.wikimedia.se/node/6 Den 7 november 2013 14:16 skrev Kristoffer Malmström mit...@gmail.com: Finns det någon i Stockholms-området som skulle kunna tänka sig att delta som ledare/föreläsare på ett OSM-event för Geocachare? Eventet kommer vara en kurs, en eller flera gånger om hur man kommer igång med openstreetmap, mappande och användande i olika former. Datum för första eventet kommer vara Måndagen 9/12 klockan 17-20 centralt i Stockholm. Vi är redan 3 stycken med lite olika erfarenhet av openstreetmap som kommer hålla i detta event (kurs), men skulle vilja ha ytterligare någon frivillig. Mvh. Kristoffer Malmström (Malmis) ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Geocaching OSM-event i Stockholm
Evenemanget vi planerar är inte publicerat än, men kommer att gå av stapeln den 2:e december som det ser ut nu (det fanns en krock den 9:e). Lokaler har vi ordnat (i närheten av Skanstull, Stockholm). Bakgrunden är att geocachare är en rätt stor grupp som använder OSM-kartor rätt mycket både på vår sajt (geocaching.com) och i diverse appar och på våra friluftsgpser, men många av oss har inte riktigt kommit igång med att förbättra kartorna när vi varit ute och letat våra plastburkar i stad, skog och mark. I en av trådarna på svenska facebookgruppoen för geocachare kom frågan upp om hur man gör för att lägga in stigar på OSM och det slutade med att någa av oss som har lite mer erfarenhet av OSM bestämde oss för att göra ett event för att hjälpa andra att komma igång. Planen just nu är att köra en timme genomgång/föreläsning med lite bakgrund om OSM och hur man mappar, för att sedan ha ungefär en timmes workshop där vi provar att kartera lite tillsammans. Många av oss har nog gott om gpx-filer liggandes i våra GPSer, och andra kan ju prova att mappa med satellitkartor som underlag. På en timme kommer man ju inte hinna gå igenom dom lite mer intrikata mappningsteknikerna som relationer, komplicerade trafiklösningar, kustlinjer och så, men det mest elementära som att lägga till saknade stigar och vägar och knyta ihop dom med befintliga kartelement eller lägga till hus på kartan. /Jonas 2013/11/11 Peter Kindström peter.kindst...@abc.se Hej! Jag är också lite nyfiken på att veta mer. Jag är inte så vass på kartritandet, men kanske kan bidra med att skriva dokument, kursupplägg eller liknande (som jag jobbat lite med tidigare)? Vad behövs? -- Vänliga hälsningar Peter Kindström Axel Pettersson axel.petters...@wikimedia.se skrev: Hej, Jag kan inte nog om OSM för att vara ledare/föreläsare, men tycker det låter intressant och vill lära mig mer. Var kan jag läsa mer om det här? Om det behövs en lokal att vara i finns möjlighet att vara hos Wikimedia Sverige på Hantverkargatan 21 också. Säg till i så fall. Kolla också på https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minibidrag_2013 om det behövs reseersättning eller liknande för någon av deltagarna. /axel Axel Pettersson Projektledare GLAM/Outreach Wikimedia Sverige +46 (0)733 96 55 65 axel.petters...@wikimedia.se Twitter: @Haxpett https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på donera.wikimedia.se https://donera.wikimedia.se/node/6 Den 7 november 2013 14:16 skrev Kristoffer Malmström mit...@gmail.com: Finns det någon i Stockholms-området som skulle kunna tänka sig att delta som ledare/föreläsare på ett OSM-event för Geocachare? Eventet kommer vara en kurs, en eller flera gånger om hur man kommer igång med openstreetmap, mappande och användande i olika former. Datum för första eventet kommer vara Måndagen 9/12 klockan 17-20 centralt i Stockholm. Vi är redan 3 stycken med lite olika erfarenhet av openstreetmap som kommer hålla i detta event (kurs), men skulle vilja ha ytterligare någon frivillig. Mvh. Kristoffer Malmström (Malmis) ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se -- Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
Lo cachondo es que la propia wiki enlaza a ejemplos donde está hecho igual que con cat2osm2, y que al pasar el validador JOSM también da el error de edificio dentro de edificio. Por ejemplo, en este casino (o lo que sea) de Las Vegas [1], hay un building que en su interior tiene otro building. Si al building interior se le pone building:part=yes, el validador de JOSM deja de llorar, pero no sé hasta qué punto esto es correcto o es sólo un apaño. Puede que, igual que no hay que mapear para el renderizador, tampoco haya que mapear en algunas ocasiones para el validador. Saludos. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/36.11006/-115.17159 El 10 de noviembre de 2013 22:19, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: Tócate los huevos, todos los cambios que hicimos al cat2osm2 para quietar las relaciones y leyendo en diagonal parece que ahora recomiendan que los edificios sean una relación... ¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Lo que me parece es que nos deberías de pasar la página de la wiki donde explican eso para modificar cat2osm2 ;) porque es una de las cosas que creo que podemos resolver fácilmente. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Explicación más o menos resumida de lo que al parecer se consensuó respecto al 3D en edificios. [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
Ese error del validator esta pensado para cuando la gente la zona interior de los edificios, los huecos, los pone también como building en vez de hacer una relación o incluso cuando hay una relación. No esta pensando para cuando se utiliza el 3D y de ahi viene que de el error. Vamos que para el caso que es creo que no hay que tener en cuenta el error. En cuanto a lo de building:part=yes pues no se que decir. En principio me parece una buena idea que se use, lo veo útil pero otra cosa es que este extendido o no el uso cosa que no se. El 11 de noviembre de 2013 09:26, Benjamín Valero Espinosa benjaval...@gmail.com escribió: Lo cachondo es que la propia wiki enlaza a ejemplos donde está hecho igual que con cat2osm2, y que al pasar el validador JOSM también da el error de edificio dentro de edificio. Por ejemplo, en este casino (o lo que sea) de Las Vegas [1], hay un building que en su interior tiene otro building. Si al building interior se le pone building:part=yes, el validador de JOSM deja de llorar, pero no sé hasta qué punto esto es correcto o es sólo un apaño. Puede que, igual que no hay que mapear para el renderizador, tampoco haya que mapear en algunas ocasiones para el validador. Saludos. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/36.11006/-115.17159 El 10 de noviembre de 2013 22:19, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: Tócate los huevos, todos los cambios que hicimos al cat2osm2 para quietar las relaciones y leyendo en diagonal parece que ahora recomiendan que los edificios sean una relación... ¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Lo que me parece es que nos deberías de pasar la página de la wiki donde explican eso para modificar cat2osm2 ;) porque es una de las cosas que creo que podemos resolver fácilmente. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Explicación más o menos resumida de lo que al parecer se consensuó respecto al 3D en edificios. [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso - Sanchi Blog http://blog.jorgesanzs.com/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
En mi caso, las pocas veces que me he encontrado con estos casos [1] he pasado del validador. Es el único error que no he corregido. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.46338/-3.86461 El 11 de noviembre de 2013 09:26, Benjamín Valero Espinosa benjaval...@gmail.com escribió: Lo cachondo es que la propia wiki enlaza a ejemplos donde está hecho igual que con cat2osm2, y que al pasar el validador JOSM también da el error de edificio dentro de edificio. Por ejemplo, en este casino (o lo que sea) de Las Vegas [1], hay un building que en su interior tiene otro building. Si al building interior se le pone building:part=yes, el validador de JOSM deja de llorar, pero no sé hasta qué punto esto es correcto o es sólo un apaño. Puede que, igual que no hay que mapear para el renderizador, tampoco haya que mapear en algunas ocasiones para el validador. Saludos. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/36.11006/-115.17159 El 10 de noviembre de 2013 22:19, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: Tócate los huevos, todos los cambios que hicimos al cat2osm2 para quietar las relaciones y leyendo en diagonal parece que ahora recomiendan que los edificios sean una relación... ¿Os parece que he de modificar el resultado de cat2osm2 para que JOSM no se queje? Espero vuestras sugerencias. Lo que me parece es que nos deberías de pasar la página de la wiki donde explican eso para modificar cat2osm2 ;) porque es una de las cosas que creo que podemos resolver fácilmente. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Explicación más o menos resumida de lo que al parecer se consensuó respecto al 3D en edificios. [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext 2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Edificios con distintas alturas
El Lunes, 11 de noviembre de 2013 10:40:56 Emilio Gómez Fernández escribió: En mi caso, las pocas veces que me he encontrado con estos casos [1] he pasado del validador. Es el único error que no he corregido. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.46338/-3.86461 ¿No deberíamos escribir un bug en JOSM con esto? http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Proyecto BICs de Canarias
Saludos de nuevo. He podido sacar algo de tiempo y os planteo las primeras dudas. No sé si serán muy básicas pero prefiero preguntar a meter la pata. No sé si se ha establecido otro canal para estar comunicados, por lo que pongo aquí las consultas (además pueden servir a otros usuarios) He reservado el municipio de Agaete. En la wikipedia me salen dos bienes: Ermita de Nuestra Señora de las Nieves y la Necrópolis de Maipez de Arriba. Como no conozco la zona en principio me da igual por donde empezar. Primera consulta: según la ficha del la wiki, dibujaremos como áreas los bienes y su entornos [1]. Imagino que este dato se saca de los mapas el correspondiente boletín oficial ¿no? por lo que habrá que buscar el documento imagino. En el caso de contar con las coordenadas, ¿estáis volcando la información de forma automática? La consulta por municipio en web del Ministerio de un total de 9 bienes. Estos son los datos a actualizar en OSM y creo entender, que ya de paso actualizamos los listados de la Wikipedia. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Bienes_de_Inter%C3%A9s_Cultural_en_Canarias#Etiquetas Patricio http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaete ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Proyecto BICs de Canarias
El 08/11/13 01:00, Javier Sánchez escribió: Mientras tanto, Patricio, respecto a las Iglesias te contesto debajo. El 7 de noviembre de 2013 20:49, Patricio Soriano pasori...@gmail.com mailto:pasori...@gmail.com escribió: No llevo mucho en esto de OSM pero hace unos meses comencé a realizar algunos trabajos en Córdoba de los que escribí algo en mi antiguo blog [1]. Mi única apreciación es relativa a la etiqueta que has elegido para las iglesias (amenity=place of worship). Yo creo que sería más correcto utilizar como clave principal historic=monument [2] ya que está más vinculado a la temática del trabajo y la simbología sería más correcta. [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic=monument El uso de amenity=place of worship está muy establecido para las iglesias. Creo que no debe faltar, quizá afinando con building=chatedral/church/chapel/... el tipo. Se puede añadir historic=monument cuando se trate de esta categoría particular (protection_title:category=Monumento), tanto para iglesias como para otros bienes que tengan esta categoría. Lo mismo que se añade historic=archaeological_site para la categoría Sitio arqueológico (protection_title:category=Sitio arqueológico). Pero no lo tengo nada claro mirando la definición de esta etiqueta en la wiki [1]. Da la impresión de que se trate de un falso amigo del inglés y que ellos no entienden por monumento lo mismo que nosotros. En la definición dice que su finalidad es respetar la memoria de una persona o grupo de personas. Es decir, un memorial grande. No encaja para nada con una iglesia. La definición de la Wikipedia [2] si se aproxima más: un ejemplo importante de arquitectura histórica. O bien la definición [1] está mal o la etiqueta historic=monument no se aplica a lo que nosotros entendemos como tal. ¿Qué opinan los demás? [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument Javier, se me pasó comentarte que veo correcta la justificación que haces para el usos de la etiqueta amenity=place of worship y que como indicas creo que debemos utilizar las dos. Para mi utilziar monumento, auqnue no se ajuse a la definición de la wiki de OSM, aportará valor a la informacion (completa la simbología) y permitirá obtenerdatos en el caso de realicen consultas. Patricio ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Proyecto BICs de Canarias
Hola El 11 de noviembre de 2013 10:35, Patricio soriano pasori...@gmail.comescribió: Saludos de nuevo. He podido sacar algo de tiempo y os planteo las primeras dudas. No sé si serán muy básicas pero prefiero preguntar a meter la pata. No sé si se ha establecido otro canal para estar comunicados, por lo que pongo aquí las consultas (además pueden servir a otros usuarios) También podemos tratar el tema en la página de discusión de la Wiki [1] He reservado el municipio de Agaete. En la wikipedia me salen dos bienes: Ermita de Nuestra Señora de las Nieves y la Necrópolis de Maipez de Arriba. Como no conozco la zona en principio me da igual por donde empezar. Primera consulta: según la ficha del la wiki, dibujaremos como áreas los bienes y su entornos [1]. Imagino que este dato se saca de los mapas el correspondiente boletín oficial ¿no? por lo que habrá que buscar el documento imagino. En el caso de contar con las coordenadas, ¿estáis volcando la información de forma automática? Todo depende de las ganas y el nivel de detalle que se quiera meter. Lo más importante es mapear el elemento que constituye el BIC. En segundo lugar se puede extraer mucha información que añadir al mapa de los textos de la Declaración, como topónimos, por ejemplo. Finalmente se puede dibujar el área de protección. Para volcar las coordenadas, lo que estoy haciendo es copiar el texo, pegarlo en un editor, transformarlo para que queden solo las coordenadas en formato csv como este: x,y,name 355703,3147375,1 355818,3147299,2 355891,3147192,3 ... En Josm, configuras los ajustes del mapa, método de proyección UTM, Zona 28, visualizar las coordenadas como coordenadas proyectadas. Si tienes instalado el complemento Open Data, puedes abrir directamente el fichero csv. Luego lo grabas en formato .osm. De esa forma se transforman las coordenadas, puedes volver a poner los ajustes del mapa como estaban (método de proyección Mercator, visualizar las coordenadas como grados decimales) y abrir el archivo para trabajar con los puntos. La consulta por municipio en web del Ministerio de un total de 9 bienes. Estos son los datos a actualizar en OSM y creo entender, que ya de paso actualizamos los listados de la Wikipedia. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Bienes_de_Inter%C3%A9s_Cultural_en_Canarias#Etiquetas Patricio Es verdad, pero solo han sido declarados los dos que están en Wikipedia. Los otros están incoados, lo que significa que están pendientes de trámites previos a la declaración definitiva. Supongo que por eso no están en Wikipedia. El 11 de noviembre de 2013 10:39, Patricio soriano pasori...@gmail.comescribió: Javier, se me pasó comentarte que veo correcta la justificación que haces para el usos de la etiqueta amenity=place of worship y que como indicas creo que debemos utilizar las dos. Para mi utilziar monumento, auqnue no se ajuse a la definición de la wiki de OSM, aportará valor a la informacion (completa la simbología) y permitirá obtenerdatos en el caso de realicen consultas. Ok. Lo pongo en la wiki. Saludos. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse)
Hi, wie mappt ihr zurzeit Stiegen? Also z.B: Beispielstraße 15/2 (Hausnr 15, Stiege 2) Im Wiki findet sich addr:unit [1] - das wird auch schon verwendet (laut taginfo), ist aber nur proposed? Und im WikiProjekt Austria [2] findet sich diese Behauptung - die ich nicht sehr sinnvoll finde (Adressen kann man ja beim Ausgeben formatieren wie man will, aber das darunterliegende Datenformat sollte schon einheitlich sein - also wenn addr:unit dann überall): Die Nummer der Stiege gehört in Österreich zur Hausnummer dazu (wird also als Teil von addr:housenumber=* und nicht via addr:unit=* getaggt). 16-26/68 ist also eine gültige Hausnummer (und bedeutet Hausnummern 16 bis 26, Stiege 68). LG, Markus [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse)
Ich trage Adressen wie folgt ein: addr:street=Hasnerstraße addr:housenumber=15/1 für die 1. Stiege addr:street=Hasnerstraße addr:housenumber=15/2 für die 2. Stiege usw. Somit kann auf OSM nach Hasnerstraße 15/2 gesucht werden, und es wird auch gefunden. addr:unit verwende ich nicht. LG, Christian Am 11.11.2013 13:14, schrieb Markus Straub: Hi, wie mappt ihr zurzeit Stiegen? Also z.B: Beispielstraße 15/2 (Hausnr 15, Stiege 2) Im Wiki findet sich addr:unit [1] - das wird auch schon verwendet (laut taginfo), ist aber nur proposed? Und im WikiProjekt Austria [2] findet sich diese Behauptung - die ich nicht sehr sinnvoll finde (Adressen kann man ja beim Ausgeben formatieren wie man will, aber das darunterliegende Datenformat sollte schon einheitlich sein - also wenn addr:unit dann überall): Die Nummer der Stiege gehört in Österreich zur Hausnummer dazu (wird also als Teil von addr:housenumber=* und nicht via addr:unit=* getaggt). 16-26/68 ist also eine gültige Hausnummer (und bedeutet Hausnummern 16 bis 26, Stiege 68). LG, Markus [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Stolpersteine
Stolpersteine Salzburg erlaubt die Verwendung der Daten von deren Homepage. Habe Kontakt aufgenommen. Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:14:24 +0100 From: thomas.fland...@inode.at To: talk-at@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-at] Stolpersteine Eintragungen in Salzburg wüsste ich auf die Schnelle nicht (ich habe sicher noch nie welche eingetragen...) Generell gibt es aber für Salzburg diese Seite: http://www.stolpersteine-salzburg.at/ Sollte sich also jemand in Salzburg in dieser Richtung hingehend bemühen wollen, wäre es sicher von Vorteil zuerst mit dem Initiator der Seite zu sprechen - vielleicht gibt es eine Datenspende... (auf deren Übersichtkarte sind auch alle Beschriftungen der Steine anzufinden - http://www.stolpersteine-salzburg.at/de/orte_und_biographien ) LG Thomas On 10.11.2013 15:25, martin ringer wrote: Wie steht es eigentlich um die Eintragung der Stolpersteine? Wo in Österreich gibt es Orte mit Stolpersteinen? Wien, Salzburg, Graz, Mödling, Bezirk Braunau? ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse)
addr:unit ist das standardschema, das ist kein proposal (mehr). xx/y bedeutet normalerweise Haus xx Tür y (in einem Mehrparteienhaus). Es ist in Österreich zwar üblich Haus/Stiege/Tür zu schreiben ist aber nicht eindeutig weil eben manche Gebäude (k)eine Stiege haben, da fällt die Stiegenangabe weg. Die Frage die ich mir in der Hinsicht stelle: Tagged man jeden Eingang mit der vollen Adresse + addr:unit (wäre dann redundant), oder reicht es den Haupteingang bzw. Stiege 1 mit der vollen Adresse, die anderen Stiegen nur mit addr:unit zu taggen und alles in eine Relation (damit man die jeweiligen Stiegen der Adresse zuordnen kann). mfg, adry On 11.11.2013 17:17, Christian Aigner wrote: Ich trage Adressen wie folgt ein: addr:street=Hasnerstraße addr:housenumber=15/1 für die 1. Stiege addr:street=Hasnerstraße addr:housenumber=15/2 für die 2. Stiege usw. Somit kann auf OSM nach Hasnerstraße 15/2 gesucht werden, und es wird auch gefunden. addr:unit verwende ich nicht. LG, Christian Am 11.11.2013 13:14, schrieb Markus Straub: Hi, wie mappt ihr zurzeit Stiegen? Also z.B: Beispielstraße 15/2 (Hausnr 15, Stiege 2) Im Wiki findet sich addr:unit [1] - das wird auch schon verwendet (laut taginfo), ist aber nur proposed? Und im WikiProjekt Austria [2] findet sich diese Behauptung - die ich nicht sehr sinnvoll finde (Adressen kann man ja beim Ausgeben formatieren wie man will, aber das darunterliegende Datenformat sollte schon einheitlich sein - also wenn addr:unit dann überall): Die Nummer der Stiege gehört in Österreich zur Hausnummer dazu (wird also als Teil von addr:housenumber=* und nicht via addr:unit=* getaggt). 16-26/68 ist also eine gültige Hausnummer (und bedeutet Hausnummern 16 bis 26, Stiege 68). LG, Markus [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Mappen von Stiegen (als Teil der Adresse)
Hi! Am 11. November 2013 13:14 schrieb Markus Straub markus.straub...@gmail.com : Und im WikiProjekt Austria [2] findet sich diese Behauptung - die ich nicht sehr sinnvoll finde (Adressen kann man ja beim Ausgeben formatieren wie man will, aber das darunterliegende Datenformat sollte schon einheitlich sein - also wenn addr:unit dann überall): Die Nummer der Stiege gehört in Österreich zur Hausnummer dazu (wird also als Teil von addr:housenumber=* und nicht via addr:unit=* getaggt). 16-26/68 ist also eine gültige Hausnummer (und bedeutet Hausnummern 16 bis 26, Stiege 68). Das ist meiner Meinung nach nicht nur nicht sehr sinnvoll sondern sogar schädlich. Solche unmotivierten regionsspezifischen Alleingänge führen nur dazu, dass die Daten nicht sinnvoll verarbeitet werden können. Ich habe bisher und werde auch weiterhin addr:unit für die Stiege verwenden. bg, Martin ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Geoimag.at
In Salzburg gibt es anscheinend neue Orthofotos die zum Teil gravierend von den früheren Bildern abweichen und stark seitliche Abbildungen beinhalten. Bei größeren Höhen der Objekte, z.B. Festung Hohensalzburg, habe ich Differenzen bis 10m zu den früher gezeichneten OSM-Daten festgestellt. Ist das auch anderswo feststellbar? LG, Peter. ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
