Re: [Talk-se] Busslinjer - 3 changesets i Västerås, vad har jag missat?

2017-01-27 Thread Christoffer Holmstedt
ÖPNVkarte verkar inte fungera för Västerås. Nya tilläggen har inte laddats
över sedan jag ändrade. Däremot insåg jag i veckan att de kartor som
används på Västeråsbussarna laddas direkt från Thunderforest [1]. Där är
allting uppdaterat enligt mina ändringar.

[1] https://www.thunderforest.com/maps/transport/

Den 22 januari 2017 09:17 skrev Christoffer Holmstedt <
christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com>:

> Perfekt. Tackar för tipset om ÖPNVkarte. Det står att datan ska laddas
> över inom några minuter men får se senare i veckan om det fungerar eller,
> än så länge har mina nya rutter inte laddats in till kartan. Kanske ska se
> över möjligheten att generera öpnvkarte liknande tiles själv lokalt.
>
> --
> Christoffer Holmstedt
>
>
> Den 21 januari 2017 22:56 skrev Essin :
>
>> Ja det stämmer, ordningen spelar roll både för hållplatserna och
>> sträckningen. Om linjen går i en slinga på vägen från start- till
>> ändhållplats kan samma OSM-objekt till och med förekomma flera gånger i
>> ruttrelationen. En tjänst som använder ordningen på hållplatserna är
>> ÖPNVkarte [1] -- testa att klicka på en hållplats och sen en av linjerna
>> som trafikerar hållplatsen! (Det verkar dessutom som att ÖPNVkarte bara
>> räknar ihop stop_position och platform om de tillhör samma stop_area, en
>> anledning så god som någon att vara noga med stop_area-relationer.)
>>
>> [1] https://öpnvkarte.de/#16.5782;59.6135;12
>> 
>>
>> Vänliga hälsningar, Essin
>>
>> Den 21 januari 2017 23:01 skrev Christoffer Holmstedt <
>> christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Tack för tipsen. Ska gå igenom allt i detalj när jag får tid nästa gång.
>>> Men en snabb fråga angående relationer, ordningen spelar alltså roll?
>>>
>>> I JOSM så råkade jag trycka på "reverse the order of relation members"
>>> en gång men hade för mig att jag korrigerade detta så det såg rätt ut men
>>> antagligen inte.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>> Den 21 januari 2017 17:16 skrev Essin :
>>>
 Hej!

 Vad kul att kartvisningen på bussarna leder till återkoppling och
 förbättring av OSM! Det jag har ritat i Västerås är mest baserat på
 Mapillary, vilket kanske förklarar en del konstiga luckor, till exempel vid
 Centralen.

 Huvuddragen i det system som används i större delen av Sverige, bland
 annat Västerås, finns dokumenterade på [1]. Jag ska försöka undvika att
 upprepa vad som redan står där, men några ytterligare kommentarer:

 name= på public_transport=platform ska i första hand användas för
 hållplatslägesbeteckningar (ofta A, B, C etc, VL skyltar dem vid större
 hållplatser). Jag tänker ibland att det hade varit bättre att fortsätta
 använda local_ref= för det ändamålet för bättre bakåtkompatibilitet, men
 det är lätt att vara efterklok. Hållplatsens namn framgår av
 stop_area-relationens name=, och för bakåtkompatibilitet av
 stop_position-nodernas. (Jag har ofta varit för lat för att skapa
 stop_area-relationer, men det betyder inte att jag ogillar dem.)

 ref= på public_transport=platform eller public_transport=stop_area
 syftar på bussbolagens interna hållplatskoder och är antagligen inte så
 högprioriterat. Jag har inte sett att VL skyltar dem överhuvudtaget, men
 det är möjligt att de står i finstilt på hållplatstidtabellerna. Ett bra
 exempel på hur de kan se ut är [2].

 route_ref= behöver bara läggas in på public_transport=platform-objekt
 och är egentligen inte nödvändigt där heller om man kan lägga in
 hållplatsen i rätt ruttrelation direkt. Det skadar inte att lägga in det
 ändå, men är mer ett sätt för mappare att kommunicera med varandra än något
 som renderingar eller andra verktyg använder.

 public_transport:version= är en tagg som jag egentligen inte tycker om
 eftersom den infördes av JOSM-programmerarna när de inte lyckades få
 validatorn att skilja på de olika systemen för kollektivtrafikrelationer.
 Jag har motvilligt accepterat den eftersom den underlättar mycket när man
 redigerar kollektivtrafik i JOSM, men den har ingen effekt på annat än
 route-relationer.

 [3] hade fått hållplatserna listade baklänges, men det var kanske bara
 av misstag?


 [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Sweden/Publi
 c_transport#Hur_skall_vi_tagga_nu.3F
 [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2255483
 [3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5673052

 Vänliga hälsningar, Essin


 Den 21 januari 2017 00:28 skrev Christoffer Holmstedt <
 christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com>:

> Hej
> I Västerås så visar alla bussar en OSM karta om vart bussen är och jag
> har lagt märke till att busslinjerna inte alltid är kompletta. Nu har jag
> fixat till busslinje 2 och 4 i Västerås till att börja med.
>
> Hur ser 

Re: [Talk-se] Gamla tågspår - Ska de mappas?

2017-01-27 Thread Christoffer Holmstedt
Den 24 januari 2017 14:36 skrev Erik Johansson :

> 2017-01-23 14:29 GMT+01:00 Per Eric Rosén :
> > Sen skulle jag kunna sträcka mig till att även behålla "osynliga" fd
> > järnvägar -
>
> Kluven; själv känner jag precis som du, men i tät stad som Västerås
> och Stockholm så känns det bättre att ta bort komplexitet än att lägga
> till. Open historical map är ju en bra idé.
>
>
>
>
Ja, det är lite tudelat på alla håll, jag är inne på samma spår ;) .
Personligen vill jag behålla så mycket data som möjligt men när cykelvägar
går över gamla spår, som är borttagna, så har jag svårt för att behålla de
gamla järnvägsspåren.

Med vänlig hälsning
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Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Hi Denis,

> We've already imported data under the City of Ottawa license, all of the
> OC Transpo bus stop (minus a few in the downtown core).

Yes, I meant to ask: where was the announcement/discussion of the OC
Transpo import on this list? Where's the wiki process page? The imports
seem to have been done by regular users, not import users, too.

> Going to wait a few hours to accept replies and afterwards we're going
> to begin the import tonight (EST).

Please don't do this - LWG is still working on it.

 Stewart


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Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Warin
Well ... give then a gold star! Make your comment on their change set 
where they might see it ...


I'd add the comment that the LPI Base Map has better boundaries for the 
park - using both the Imagery and the Base Map would be good thing.


And try to let them make changes .. ok they might make some mistakes .. 
but that is a good learning experience for them.



On 28-Jan-17 11:14 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote:
This user should get a gold star with bar for good changeset comment 
practice:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45578563

On 28/01/17 10:20, Andrew Harvey wrote:
https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game 



Certainly seems like a lot of these new contributors could be doing it
for this reason.

On 28 January 2017 at 09:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have examined the change sets in NSW.


One of the new mappers is 'good', others .. 'could do better'.
Mostly harmless .. would be a good summary ... a couple of basic 
mistakes

and some basic improvements.
I have left most of the edits alone to see if they will make changes to
improve things.

One I have edited out as it removed a road, replacing it with a foot 
path.


I have left comments for most new users ... giving information, and
questioning a few things ... like a house (possibly their home) 
being made

into a park



On 28-Jan-17 08:03 AM, Warin wrote:


The cycleway routing should take note of footways that have the tag
bicycle=yes ...
Most people don't notice the bicycle signs as they are not using a
bicycle.
So adding the bicycle=yes tag is simple and does not cause 
conflict/edit

wars.

To me a cycle way should be principally used by cyclists, most of 
these

are shared paths and the majority might be pedestrians.

As for the new mappers .. welcome, provided these things are real, 
very

welcome.


On 27-Jan-17 10:45 PM, nwastra wrote:


Apart from the addition of numerous poorly edited parks, numerous
footways (even with no construction or visible path on the 
ground), water
features, etc by the followers of this children's game, I am also 
dismayed
to see that wide shared cement ways that most would have 
previously marked
as cycleways to aid cycle routing are now being changed to 
footways. Most of

my osm editing time is taken up trying to fix all these poor edits.
Hopefully all these new editors gain experience and become a valued
editing force.
Nev


On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Davidson  
wrote:


Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number 
of new

mappers in Australia:


http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425 



and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every 
park is

on the map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.

In other news:


https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game 




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Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Andrew Davidson
This user should get a gold star with bar for good changeset comment 
practice:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45578563

On 28/01/17 10:20, Andrew Harvey wrote:

https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game


Certainly seems like a lot of these new contributors could be doing it
for this reason.

On 28 January 2017 at 09:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have examined the change sets in NSW.


One of the new mappers is 'good', others .. 'could do better'.
Mostly harmless .. would be a good summary ... a couple of basic mistakes
and some basic improvements.
I have left most of the edits alone to see if they will make changes to
improve things.

One I have edited out as it removed a road, replacing it with a foot path.

I have left comments for most new users ... giving information, and
questioning a few things ... like a house (possibly their home) being made
into a park



On 28-Jan-17 08:03 AM, Warin wrote:


The cycleway routing should take note of footways that have the tag
bicycle=yes ...
Most people don't notice the bicycle signs as they are not using a
bicycle.
So adding the bicycle=yes tag is simple and does not cause conflict/edit
wars.

To me a cycle way should be principally used by cyclists, most of these
are shared paths and the majority might be pedestrians.

As for the new mappers .. welcome, provided these things are real, very
welcome.


On 27-Jan-17 10:45 PM, nwastra wrote:


Apart from the addition of numerous poorly edited parks, numerous
footways (even with no construction or visible path on the ground), water
features, etc by the followers of this children's game, I am also dismayed
to see that wide shared cement ways that most would have previously marked
as cycleways to aid cycle routing are now being changed to footways. Most of
my osm editing time is taken up trying to fix all these poor edits.
Hopefully all these new editors gain experience and become a valued
editing force.
Nev


On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:

Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number of new
mappers in Australia:


http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425

and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every park is
on the map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.

In other news:


https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game


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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

2017-01-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Continuing on with swimming areas, we've got a few on the GC that consist
of a floating boom suspending an underwater net, surrounding the designated
area. One of them then has a swimming raft in it:

http://www.goldcoastkids.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/beaches-the-broadwater-blog-header.jpg

In OSM, the boom's are currently marked as fences:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-27.96790/153.41779, which doesn't
really seem right?

I can see reference in the wiki to an oil-boom, which is a floating boom to
contain oil spills, but not really appropriate.

Don't know if they'd be a pontoon either, because you can't really climb up
on it.

Any thoughts?

Graeme



Thanks

Graeme
_

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0407 754321

On 27 January 2017 at 06:23, Max Bainrot  wrote:

> The swimming raft describes it exactly
>
> man_made=pontoon was my first thought but wasn't sure (was checking on a
> mobile device on the bus) so I'll use that.
>
> With tagging the ladder, the pontoons can rotate a fair bit so how
> sensitive is the position of something like a ladder?
>
> Swimming area is also something I plan on marking as these swimming areas
> do have buoys on like a cable around the perimeter marking the boundary.
>
> Thank you to everyone for their input so far, the help is very much
> appreciated.
>
>
> On 26 Jan. 2017 21:14, "Andrew Davidson"  wrote:
>
> On 25/01/17 22:05, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
>
>> As for the pontoon, per
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
>> man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
>> pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
>> plus floating=yes
>>
>>
> It would depend on whether we are talking about a floating jetty:
>
> http://www.letsonslanding.com/images/IMG_4212dock_wide.jpg
>
> or what our American friends would call a swimming raft:
>
> http://manitoulincedar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swim-raft-2013.jpg
>
> The first one is a pier but the second one isn't.
>
> It seems that there are two ways to tag a swimming raft. The first is from
> OpenSeaMap seamark:type=pontoon
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:seamark:type%3Dpontoon
>
> There's 36 of these. The other is man_made=pontoon (There's 87 of these).
>
>
> On 26/01/17 10:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?
> >
> > Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?
> >
>
> Maybe swimming_area
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_area ?
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag eterogenei su nodo

2017-01-27 Thread Davide Sandona'
Secondo me addr:* e informazioni del PDI vanno tenuti sullo stesso nodo. E'
l'utente che dovrebbe rendersi conto di quello che vorrebbe eliminare.
Piuttosto si potrebbe inviare un suggerimento agli sviluppatori di
josm/plotarch in cui effettuare un controllo sull'elemento che si sta
cancellando: se un determinato tag è presente nell'elemento (ad esempio
addr:*), aprire una finestra di dialogo per confermare l'eliminazione
visualizzando un opportuno messaggio di avviso.

Davide.

Il giorno 27 gennaio 2017 22:31, girarsi_liste  ha
scritto:

> Il 27/01/2017 18:13, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto:
> > In tempi di crisi i PDI commerciali sono piuttosto effimeri.
> >
> > Sulla coesistenza sullo stesso nodo di PDI e addr:*
> >
> > Sarebbe auspicabile fossero separati, in quanto alcuni editor non
> > chiariscono all'utente che sta cancellando un PDI che esistono tag addr
> > associati; questi potrebbe essere ingiustamente cancellati.
> >
>
> Detta come l'hai scritta, tanto vale fare un nodo per ogni tag, così si
> è sicuri che il niubbo è niubbo e tale rimane. :)
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Re: [Talk-us] reporting Pokemon Go related vandalism

2017-01-27 Thread Clifford Snow
Andy,
Yesterday I responded to a months worth of new editors in a single day.
Most of the edits were not vandalism although a few were. Some were
exceptional with the amount of detail added. What I've noticed mostly is
footpaths not connected to streets, buildings not being square and poorly
drawn, parks that were best guesses of their physical shape.

It partly indicates that we have a new user process that could use some
improving.

Best,
Clifford

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:49 PM, ajt1...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> On 27/01/2017 06:20, Will Senechal wrote:
>
>>   I'll try to keep an eye on activity around here, and will try to
>> continue updating my area.
>>
>
> They've just "edited" again, and I've blocked in
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1169 , so I'd be grateful if
> people could keep an eye out for other problematical edits in the area from
> other names too...
>
> Best Regards,
>
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Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
> https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game

Certainly seems like a lot of these new contributors could be doing it
for this reason.

On 28 January 2017 at 09:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have examined the change sets in NSW.
>
>
> One of the new mappers is 'good', others .. 'could do better'.
> Mostly harmless .. would be a good summary ... a couple of basic mistakes
> and some basic improvements.
> I have left most of the edits alone to see if they will make changes to
> improve things.
>
> One I have edited out as it removed a road, replacing it with a foot path.
>
> I have left comments for most new users ... giving information, and
> questioning a few things ... like a house (possibly their home) being made
> into a park
>
>
>
> On 28-Jan-17 08:03 AM, Warin wrote:
>>
>> The cycleway routing should take note of footways that have the tag
>> bicycle=yes ...
>> Most people don't notice the bicycle signs as they are not using a
>> bicycle.
>> So adding the bicycle=yes tag is simple and does not cause conflict/edit
>> wars.
>>
>> To me a cycle way should be principally used by cyclists, most of these
>> are shared paths and the majority might be pedestrians.
>>
>> As for the new mappers .. welcome, provided these things are real, very
>> welcome.
>>
>>
>> On 27-Jan-17 10:45 PM, nwastra wrote:
>>>
>>> Apart from the addition of numerous poorly edited parks, numerous
>>> footways (even with no construction or visible path on the ground), water
>>> features, etc by the followers of this children's game, I am also dismayed
>>> to see that wide shared cement ways that most would have previously marked
>>> as cycleways to aid cycle routing are now being changed to footways. Most of
>>> my osm editing time is taken up trying to fix all these poor edits.
>>> Hopefully all these new editors gain experience and become a valued
>>> editing force.
>>> Nev

 On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:

 Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number of new
 mappers in Australia:


 http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425

 and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every park is
 on the map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.

 In other news:


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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalo utente Kostik, non si capisce la sua mappatura.

2017-01-27 Thread Davide Sandona'
Penso sia un bot, o comunque qualcuno che utilizza script. Un commento più
dettagliato non farebbe male! In ogni caso gli ho scritto, vedremo se
risponde.

Davide.

Il giorno 28 gennaio 2017 00:06, Volker Schmidt  ha
scritto:

> Qualcuno ha controllato se commette errori di mapping (oltre a utilizzare
> sempre lo stesso commento nei changeset "мелкие правки ошибок" ovvero
> "bug minori modifiche").
> Non penso che lui sia un principiante con 23,629 changeset.
>
> 2017-01-27 23:54 GMT+01:00 THESTORM375 :
>
>> Bisogna assolutamente fermarlo ..prima che faccia danni.. Appunto anche
>> nelle regioni italiane .. Poi. ..solo per sapere..ma se uno per caso fa il
>> matto e modifica tutto .c'è un modo per tornare diciamo indietro subito?
>> Una specie di backup di emergenza..
>> Comunque se mai se avete bisogno di parlarci potrei farlo io.. Perché so
>> molto bene l'inglese ..
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] reporting Pokemon Go related vandalism

2017-01-27 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com

On 27/01/2017 06:20, Will Senechal wrote:
  I'll try to keep an eye on activity around here, and will try to 
continue updating my area.


They've just "edited" again, and I've blocked in 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1169 , so I'd be grateful if 
people could keep an eye out for other problematical edits in the area 
from other names too...


Best Regards,

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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalo utente Kostik, non si capisce la sua mappatura.

2017-01-27 Thread Davide Sandona'
si, ho notato anch'io il changeset in Veneto, ma non ho ancora avuto modo
di controllare che modifiche ha apportato.
Provo a contattarlo e vediamo se risponde...

Davide.

Il giorno 27 gennaio 2017 23:38, girarsi_liste  ha
scritto:

> Il 27/01/2017 23:32, girarsi_liste ha scritto:
> > Per caso oggi, controllando nella mia vallata se c'erano modifiche da
> > parte di altri utenti, sono incappato in questo changeset[0], dove ho
> > visto che questo utente russo, o via di lì, ha effettuato modifiche e
> > cancellazioni, in questo caso in qualche punto del Veneto, in maniera
> > arbitraria, guardando il suo profilo [1], rilevo parecchi changeset
> > [2]strani e diffusi in tutta Europa occidentale, Francia in particolare,
> > non so con che criterio, ma penso male.
> >
> > Non l'ho contattato perchè con l'inglese non me la cavo, e poi vedo che
> > scrive solo russo o quel che lè.
> >
> > Ad ogni modo segnalo perchè a me pare rovinamuri.
> >
> >
> > [0] http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=45499857
> >
> > [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kostik
> >
> > [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kostik/history
> >
> >
>
> In aggiunta, visto adesso, pure tra Trentino-Alto Adige e Lombardia:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45422128
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Re: [Talk-it] Segnalo utente Kostik, non si capisce la sua mappatura.

2017-01-27 Thread girarsi_liste
Il 27/01/2017 23:32, girarsi_liste ha scritto:
> Per caso oggi, controllando nella mia vallata se c'erano modifiche da
> parte di altri utenti, sono incappato in questo changeset[0], dove ho
> visto che questo utente russo, o via di lì, ha effettuato modifiche e
> cancellazioni, in questo caso in qualche punto del Veneto, in maniera
> arbitraria, guardando il suo profilo [1], rilevo parecchi changeset
> [2]strani e diffusi in tutta Europa occidentale, Francia in particolare,
> non so con che criterio, ma penso male.
> 
> Non l'ho contattato perchè con l'inglese non me la cavo, e poi vedo che
> scrive solo russo o quel che lè.
> 
> Ad ogni modo segnalo perchè a me pare rovinamuri.
> 
> 
> [0] http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=45499857
> 
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kostik
> 
> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kostik/history
> 
> 

In aggiunta, visto adesso, pure tra Trentino-Alto Adige e Lombardia:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45422128

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[Talk-it] Segnalo utente Kostik, non si capisce la sua mappatura.

2017-01-27 Thread girarsi_liste
Per caso oggi, controllando nella mia vallata se c'erano modifiche da
parte di altri utenti, sono incappato in questo changeset[0], dove ho
visto che questo utente russo, o via di lì, ha effettuato modifiche e
cancellazioni, in questo caso in qualche punto del Veneto, in maniera
arbitraria, guardando il suo profilo [1], rilevo parecchi changeset
[2]strani e diffusi in tutta Europa occidentale, Francia in particolare,
non so con che criterio, ma penso male.

Non l'ho contattato perchè con l'inglese non me la cavo, e poi vedo che
scrive solo russo o quel che lè.

Ad ogni modo segnalo perchè a me pare rovinamuri.


[0] http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=45499857

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kostik

[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kostik/history


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Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Warin

I have examined the change sets in NSW.


One of the new mappers is 'good', others .. 'could do better'.
Mostly harmless .. would be a good summary ... a couple of basic 
mistakes and some basic improvements.
I have left most of the edits alone to see if they will make changes to 
improve things.


One I have edited out as it removed a road, replacing it with a foot path.

I have left comments for most new users ... giving information, and 
questioning a few things ... like a house (possibly their home) being 
made into a park



On 28-Jan-17 08:03 AM, Warin wrote:
The cycleway routing should take note of footways that have the tag 
bicycle=yes ...
Most people don't notice the bicycle signs as they are not using a 
bicycle.
So adding the bicycle=yes tag is simple and does not cause 
conflict/edit wars.


To me a cycle way should be principally used by cyclists, most of 
these are shared paths and the majority might be pedestrians.


As for the new mappers .. welcome, provided these things are real, 
very welcome.



On 27-Jan-17 10:45 PM, nwastra wrote:
Apart from the addition of numerous poorly edited parks, numerous 
footways (even with no construction or visible path on the ground), 
water features, etc by the followers of this children's game, I am 
also dismayed to see that wide shared cement ways that most would 
have previously marked as cycleways to aid cycle routing are now 
being changed to footways. Most of my osm editing time is taken up 
trying to fix all these poor edits.
Hopefully all these new editors gain experience and become a valued 
editing force.

Nev

On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:

Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number of 
new mappers in Australia:


http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425 



and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every park 
is on the map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.


In other news:

https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game 




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Re: [Talk-it] Tag eterogenei su nodo

2017-01-27 Thread girarsi_liste
Il 27/01/2017 18:13, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto:
> In tempi di crisi i PDI commerciali sono piuttosto effimeri.
> 
> Sulla coesistenza sullo stesso nodo di PDI e addr:*
> 
> Sarebbe auspicabile fossero separati, in quanto alcuni editor non
> chiariscono all'utente che sta cancellando un PDI che esistono tag addr
> associati; questi potrebbe essere ingiustamente cancellati.
> 

Detta come l'hai scritta, tanto vale fare un nodo per ogni tag, così si
è sicuri che il niubbo è niubbo e tale rimane. :)



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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread James
Permission should be in the persons own words and not some quest for glory.

We cannot expect to put words in peoples mouths when giving permission by
stating, no sorry try again you should have said it this way or that way ,
oh and you have to do it under surmon in front of the Prime minister as
he's the highest trustworthy authority.

If someone states "I can’t see any issues with it being published to
OpenStreetMap." to me that means it we have the permission to go ahead with
the legal backing of the city of Ottawa. We aren't going to get Jim Watson
to state from his ottawa email that we have the legal write to import the
data as this is what licenses and explicit permission are for.

On Jan 27, 2017 4:18 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:

Note to Dennis:  Apparently it appears that all the data brought in from
the Federal Government Open Data portal and from Vancouver were not brought
in under the Open Data License but under some private arrangement by Paul
Norman.

The Metrolink address data import from the Open Government Portal was
interesting as they actually compared the Federal Government license to the
OSM license and came to the conclusion that it was compatible.  This was
discussed in talk-ca and accepted and it was their independent analysis
that led me to believe we were importing under the federal government's
Open Data license.  Prior to that I was under the impression that Open Data
and OSM did not mix.

Currently we're seeing a lot of references to Open Data in weeklyosm h
ttp://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/
  which leads me to believe OSM
is now more accepting of Open Data.


I really do suggest holding off doing any more until LWG has come up with a
clear answer because I really don't think we have one yet.

Cheerio John





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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread john whelan
Note to Dennis:  Apparently it appears that all the data brought in from
the Federal Government Open Data portal and from Vancouver were not brought
in under the Open Data License but under some private arrangement by Paul
Norman.

The Metrolink address data import from the Open Government Portal was
interesting as they actually compared the Federal Government license to the
OSM license and came to the conclusion that it was compatible.  This was
discussed in talk-ca and accepted and it was their independent analysis
that led me to believe we were importing under the federal government's
Open Data license.  Prior to that I was under the impression that Open Data
and OSM did not mix.

Currently we're seeing a lot of references to Open Data in weeklyosm h
ttp://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/
  which leads me to believe OSM
is now more accepting of Open Data.


I really do suggest holding off doing any more until LWG has come up with a
clear answer because I really don't think we have one yet.

Cheerio John

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Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Warin

The cycleway routing should take note of footways that have the tag bicycle=yes 
...
Most people don't notice the bicycle signs as they are not using a bicycle.
So adding the bicycle=yes tag is simple and does not cause conflict/edit wars.

To me a cycle way should be principally used by cyclists, most of these are 
shared paths and the majority might be pedestrians.

As for the new mappers .. welcome, provided these things are real, very welcome.


On 27-Jan-17 10:45 PM, nwastra wrote:

Apart from the addition of numerous poorly edited parks, numerous footways 
(even with no construction or visible path on the ground), water features, etc 
by the followers of this children's game, I am also dismayed to see that wide 
shared cement ways that most would have previously marked as cycleways to aid 
cycle routing are now being changed to footways. Most of my osm editing time is 
taken up trying to fix all these poor edits.
Hopefully all these new editors gain experience and become a valued editing 
force.
Nev
   

On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:

Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number of new mappers 
in Australia:

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425

and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every park is on the 
map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.

In other news:

https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game


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Re: [Talk-es] Etiquetando fuentes

2017-01-27 Thread Ibai Gurrutxaga

Hola.

Creo que mi primera participación en la lista ya me ha dado una lección: 
todo es interpretable y puedes estar equivocado hasta en lo que creías 
tener claro.


Tengo que dar la razón a Iñaki en que el hecho de que toda la vida 
hayamos bebido de una fuente no implica que esté libre de contaminantes, 
por lo que no asegura que sea potable.


El dilema que me surge con esto es que si eso implica etiquetar con 
drinking_water=yes solo manantiales analizados, no etiquetaríamos 
prácticamente ninguno. Y si alguno sí se analiza, es probable que se 
pueda etiquetar como drinking_water:legal=yes.


Al final, lo que más me convence es etiquetar con drinking_water=yes 
aquellos manantiales de los que habitualmente se bebe sin mayores 
problemas y/o están equipados para poder beber con facilidad. Aunque eso 
no asegure que sea potable.


Veo que las cosas son a veces más complicadas de lo que parecen, ¡menos 
mal que hay gente dispuesta a echar una mano! Gracias a todos por 
vuestra ayuda.


Saludos,
Ibai Gurrutxaga.


On 27/01/17 18:46, Iñaki wrote:


Buenas tardes, Ibai:

Un pequeño aporte a una afirmación suya. Se refiere a “/muchas veces 
es difícil verificar la potabilidad de un manantial, pero mapeadores 
de la zona pueden saberlo, por ejemplo, porque "toda la vida" se ha 
bebido de allí/”. Que todo el mundo lo haga, no es garantía de nada; 
es más, el Ayuntamiento del pueblo en el que resido, en más de una 
ocasión, ha publicado análisis de esas fuentes “de toda la vida” pero 
en las que la presencia de fecales, por ejemplo, es evidente. 
Consecuentemente, la decisión administrativa era anunciar con letreros 
la no potabilidad del agua. ¿Cree Ud. que muchos hacen caso? Pues no, 
hacen lo contrario, caso omiso.


Y si se refiere Ud. al monte, si esos montes pasta el ganado, es mucho 
más que probable que desde la perspectiva de la sanidad las fuentes no 
sean potables. Yo, personalmente, no me atrevería a marcar ninguna 
fuente como potable, si hay ganado pastando. Pero, claro, para gustos 
los colores.


Saludos,

Iñaki



El 27/01/2017 a las 12:31, Ibai Gurrutxaga escribió:


Hola.

Entiendo tu razonamiento, pero revisando la wiki, no me cuadra del todo.

Según la wiki en inglés [1] "drinking_water=yes" en un "spring" 
indica que el agua es potable: "when tagging a natural=spring that 
has potable water for use, tag the spring with drinking_water=yes." 
La trampa está en que eso lo dice en la wiki de 
"amenity=drinking_water". La verdad es que seguir la wiki es a veces 
complicado...


Coincido contigo en que muchas veces es difícil verificar la 
potabilidad de un manantial, pero mapeadores de la zona pueden 
saberlo, por ejemplo, porque "toda la vida" se ha bebido de allí.


Por tanto, mi interpretación es:
· natural=spring para todo manantial de agua que surja de manera 
natural (tenga tubito o no).
· drinking_water=yes si se conoce que es potable, ya sea por 
conocimiento de uso habitual, cartel, inscripción...
· drinking_water:legal=yes Si hay un cartel que indique que una 
autoridad publica verifica la potabilidad. Si hay un cartel que dice 
"potable", pero no indica quién lo verifica, no lo pondría.


Saludos,
Ibai Gurrutxaga.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddrinking_water


On 26/01/17 19:40, Jan Esquerra wrote:


Yo tengo entendido que agua potable es safe drinking water, 
estrictamente hablando.


Ademas que sea potable o no, a menos que tenga un cartelito, es 
dificilmente verificable por un contribuidor de osm que mapee el 
lugar. Si tiene el cartelito, entonces añado el :legal=yes/no


Mi razonamiento es que, siendo spring todas las surgencias de agua, 
el drinking_water=yes indica en las que podre beber o llenar la 
botella. Otro tema es que los renders lo tengan en cuenta (algun dia 
sera).
Las que no tienen tubito tambien existen, ergo las mapeo, por si a 
alguien le interesa saber donde hay una, por ejemplo a mi perro, que 
bebe de qualquir charco i no lleva cantimplora para llenar ;-)




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Re: [Talk-lt] OSM tada ir dabar

2017-01-27 Thread Ramas
Joa, galima išryškinti kur gyveno pirmieji mapperiai :)

2017-01-27 21:49 GMT+02:00 Tomas Straupis :

> Sveiki
>
>   Martijn van Exel vėl paleido žemėlapį, kuriame galima palyginti,
> kaip OSM žemėlapis atrodė prieš 10 metų - 2007 metais, ir kaip atrodo
> dabar. Pavyzdžiui Vilnius:
>
>  http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#12/54.6851/25.2758
>
>   Žemėlapio braižymo sudėtingumo bendram supratimui galima priminti,
> kad Nacionalinės Žemės Tarnybos Ortofoto pas mus atsirado tik 2013
> metais.
>   Bingo ortofoto atsirado tik 2010 metais ir tai, dengė toli gražu ne
> visą Lietuvą, fotografijos buvo stipriai pasislinkusios, todėl prieš
> braižant reikėjo dar pavargti ir nuotraukas gerokai pasistumdyti į
> vietą (ką padaryti kartais pavykdavo geriau, kartais blogiau).
>   Iki to buvo tik Yahoo nuotrauka, dengianti didžiąją dalį Vilniaus.
>
>   Žemėlapio braižymas už ortofotografijos ribų buvo grynai tik
> naudojant GPS aparatus (renkant pėdsakus). Taigi braižoma buvo juodame
> fone pribraižytame pėdsakų (kurie turi savo paklaidą).
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nouvelles bornes Trilib'

2017-01-27 Thread Éric Gillet
C'est cool qu'ils soient à l'écoute et qu'il y ait des motivés pour
échanger avec eux !.

Le 26 janvier 2017 à 10:09, Florian LAINEZ  a écrit :

> Salut,
> Pour info, suite à mon billet de blog, eco-emballages a pris contact avec
> moi pour convenir d'un rendez-vous pour aborder les questions d'open data.
> J'en profiterai pour leur demander une API et des données vraiment
> ouvertes concernant toutes les bornes de recyclage qu'ils gèrent sur le
> territoire.
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[Talk-lt] OSM tada ir dabar

2017-01-27 Thread Tomas Straupis
Sveiki

  Martijn van Exel vėl paleido žemėlapį, kuriame galima palyginti,
kaip OSM žemėlapis atrodė prieš 10 metų - 2007 metais, ir kaip atrodo
dabar. Pavyzdžiui Vilnius:

 http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#12/54.6851/25.2758

  Žemėlapio braižymo sudėtingumo bendram supratimui galima priminti,
kad Nacionalinės Žemės Tarnybos Ortofoto pas mus atsirado tik 2013
metais.
  Bingo ortofoto atsirado tik 2010 metais ir tai, dengė toli gražu ne
visą Lietuvą, fotografijos buvo stipriai pasislinkusios, todėl prieš
braižant reikėjo dar pavargti ir nuotraukas gerokai pasistumdyti į
vietą (ką padaryti kartais pavykdavo geriau, kartais blogiau).
  Iki to buvo tik Yahoo nuotrauka, dengianti didžiąją dalį Vilniaus.

  Žemėlapio braižymas už ortofotografijos ribų buvo grynai tik
naudojant GPS aparatus (renkant pėdsakus). Taigi braižoma buvo juodame
fone pribraižytame pėdsakų (kurie turi savo paklaidą).

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Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto query overpass

2017-01-27 Thread Davide Sandona'
riguardo la seconda domanda, credo che rappresentino le diverse versioni
della cronologia, infatti se guardi la scheda Dati, trovi la stessa way due
volte (vedi che l'id si ripete).

Davide.

Il giorno 27 gennaio 2017 19:46, Marco  ha scritto:

> Sto guardando ora; la query sembra funzionare correttamente (grazie
> ancora) ma vorrei cercare di capirci di più.
>
> 1) che differenza c'è tra i segmenti tratteggiati e quelli continui?
> cliccando su uno di quelli tratteggiati compare la scritta "*Attention:
> incomplete geometry (e.g. some nodes missing)**"* e non mi spiego perchè.
> Mi illuminate per favore?
>
> 2) perché in alcuni punti come questo [1], ci sono due linee tratteggiate
> che sembrano rappresentare lo stesso sentiero?
>
> [1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/lys
>
> grazie
>
> Ciao
>
> Il 27/01/2017 11:31, Marco ha scritto:
>
> Grazie mille a tutti per le risposte; ho guardato al volo la soluzione di
> Andrea e sembrava restituire risultati verosimili. Oggi sono super occupato
> con il lavoro ma appena trovo il tempo di controllare i risultati vi faccio
> sapere.
> Grazie ancora per l'aiuto
> Ciao
>
> On January 27, 2017 12:26:48 AM GMT+01:00, Andrea Albani
>   wrote:
>>
>> Quello che cerchi penso si possa fare con la funzione augmented delta e
>> quindi l'operatore adiff
>>
>> [out:xml][timeout:25][adiff:"2016-01-01T00:00:00Z","2017-
>> 01-28T00:00:00Z"];
>> (
>>   way["highway"]({{bbox}});
>> );
>> out body;
>> >;
>> out skel qt;
>>
>> La query ritorna le modifiche avvenute nel bbox nell'intervallo di date
>> specificato: l'output generato contiene per ogni way un elemento 
>> con la variabile type che può valere create (quello che serve a te), modify
>> e delete.
>> Prova in una zona che conosci per capire se è quello che fa per te.
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>> NB funziona solo quando l'output è settato come nell'esempio in XML
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread Steve Singer

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Denis Carriere wrote:


Good day everyone,

Thanks for everyone who provided feedback related to the Ottawa import plan, all of 
the concerns & issues have been
resolved.

Going to officially announce that we will be starting the Ottawa building & 
address import.


I am confused about the state of the license issue still.

I haven't seen anything from LWG saying resolving the questions or saying 
that the ODL-Ottawa is compatible with OSM (What i called situation 1 in my 
email last week).


I don't really understand what these issues are but others have expressd 
concern and I think that needs to be sorted out.


The email from Robert Giggey of Jan 24 5:27pm linked to on the wiki page 
doesn't seem like a permission email for what I called situation 3.


I don't see him saying something along the lines of

"On Behalf of the city of Ottawa I hearby accept the OSM contributor terms, 
and give explicit permission for this data set to be imported into OSM"


Steve







OSM Wiki - Import Plan
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan

Explicit Permission from the City of Ottawa
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Explicit_permission

Video instruction (YouTube)
https://youtu.be/OkFCkPBR7PA

City of Ottawa's open datasets
http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/urban-buildings
http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/addresspoints

Tasking Manager #37 (private - invite only)
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread John Marshall
Great work on the Wiki.

Let's start.

John

John Marshall

On Jan 27, 2017 13:32, "Denis Carriere"  wrote:

> Good day everyone,
>
> Thanks for everyone who provided feedback related to the Ottawa import
> plan, all of the concerns & issues have been resolved.
>
> Going to officially announce that we will be starting the Ottawa building
> & address import.
>
> *OSM Wiki - Import Plan*
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan
> 
>
> *Explicit Permission from the City of Ottawa*
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/
> Import/Plan#Explicit_permission
>
> *Video instruction (**YouTube)*
> https://youtu.be/OkFCkPBR7PA
>
> *City of Ottawa's open datasets*
> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/urban-buildings
> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/addresspoints
>
> *Tasking Manager #37 (private - invite only)*
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/37
>
> Cheers,
>
> *~~*
> *Denis Carriere*
>
> *GIS Software & Systems SpecialistOSM Account: @DenisCarriere
> *
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[Talk-br] wiki: PROJETO "MAPEANDO COM ESCOLAS"

2017-01-27 Thread Sérgio V .
Sempre há 2 possibilidades: ou eu não entendi, ou não me foi bem explicado, 
rsrs.

Mas tá lá.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread James
I've submitted a ticket to the city of Ottawa to fix their links and
requested feedback. The link on the import plan wiki was already up to
date, just not the one on the dataset directly. You can get the direct link
by visiting data.ottawa.ca and from the front page click Read the City of
Ottawa Open Data Licence Version 2.0


01/27/2017 - 14:07 Thank you for providing your feedback to us regarding
ottawa.ca.
Your reference number is 800.
We will provide you with an update on your feedback within 5 business days.
Regards, ServiceOttawa

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distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains
by other than the intended recipient(s) is unauthorized. Thank you.

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d'Ottawa. Toute distribution, utilisation ou reproduction du courriel ou
des renseignements qui s'y trouvent par une personne autre que son
destinataire prévu est interdite. Je vous remercie de votre collaboration.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM, James  wrote:

> http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/get-know-your-city/open-data#
> open-data-licence-version-2-0
>
> Is the correct link, if it's on the wiki, I'll update it as the city has
> been updating/breaking there data.ottawa.ca
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Michael Reichert  wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> Am 2017-01-24 um 21:05 schrieb James:
>> > The sources are now available on the city of Ottawa's website. As such
>> was
>> > the major hurdle last time to proceed with the import and it is now
>> taken
>> > care of (http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/urban-buildings) and the local
>> > community in agreement to proceed, we shall begin to do so in the coming
>> > days.
>>
>> Thank you for the link to the data. The link to the license on that page
>> (http://ottawa.ca/en/mobile-apps-and-open-data/open-data-lic
>> ence-version-20)
>> returns error 404. archive.org has an archieved version of that page
>> from October 2016 but it would be better if their open data portal
>> contained working links to the license texts.
>>
>> You are in touch with them, aren't you? Could you please ask them to fix
>> that broken link.
>>
>> Please note that this is not a show-stopper.
>>
>> > The documentation has been updated here:
>> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan
>> > Please refer to it if you have any questions.
>>
>> The license (http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/get-know-your-city/open-data)
>> linked from the wiki page contains the phrase "for any lawful purpose".
>> Is it compatible to OSM? I don't know if it is compatible, I haven't
>> looked if this issue has been solved or is still open. There was some
>> discussion about licenses with such phrases on Legal-talk mailing list
>> some months ago.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
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>> ausgenommen)
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Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi James,

Am 2017-01-24 um 21:05 schrieb James:
> The sources are now available on the city of Ottawa's website. As such was
> the major hurdle last time to proceed with the import and it is now taken
> care of (http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/urban-buildings) and the local
> community in agreement to proceed, we shall begin to do so in the coming
> days.

Thank you for the link to the data. The link to the license on that page
(http://ottawa.ca/en/mobile-apps-and-open-data/open-data-licence-version-20)
returns error 404. archive.org has an archieved version of that page
from October 2016 but it would be better if their open data portal
contained working links to the license texts.

You are in touch with them, aren't you? Could you please ask them to fix
that broken link.

Please note that this is not a show-stopper.

> The documentation has been updated here:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan
> Please refer to it if you have any questions.

The license (http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/get-know-your-city/open-data)
linked from the wiki page contains the phrase "for any lawful purpose".
Is it compatible to OSM? I don't know if it is compatible, I haven't
looked if this issue has been solved or is still open. There was some
discussion about licenses with such phrases on Legal-talk mailing list
some months ago.

Best regards

Michael


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Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto query overpass

2017-01-27 Thread Marco
Sto guardando ora; la query sembra funzionare correttamente (grazie 
ancora) ma vorrei cercare di capirci di più.


1) che differenza c'è tra i segmenti tratteggiati e quelli continui? 
cliccando su uno di quelli tratteggiati compare la scritta "/Attention: 
incomplete geometry (e.g. some nodes missing)/*"* e non mi spiego 
perchè. Mi illuminate per favore?


2) perché in alcuni punti come questo [1], ci sono due linee 
tratteggiate che sembrano rappresentare lo stesso sentiero?


[1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/lys

grazie

Ciao


Il 27/01/2017 11:31, Marco ha scritto:
Grazie mille a tutti per le risposte; ho guardato al volo la soluzione 
di Andrea e sembrava restituire risultati verosimili. Oggi sono super 
occupato con il lavoro ma appena trovo il tempo di controllare i 
risultati vi faccio sapere.

Grazie ancora per l'aiuto
Ciao

On January 27, 2017 12:26:48 AM GMT+01:00, Andrea Albani 
 wrote:


Quello che cerchi penso si possa fare con la funzione augmented
delta e quindi l'operatore adiff

[out:xml][timeout:25][adiff:"2016-01-01T00:00:00Z","2017-01-28T00:00:00Z"];
(
  way["highway"]({{bbox}});
);
out body;
>;
out skel qt;

La query ritorna le modifiche avvenute nel bbox nell'intervallo di
date specificato: l'output generato contiene per ogni way un
elemento  con la variabile type che può valere create
(quello che serve a te), modify e delete.
Prova in una zona che conosci per capire se è quello che fa per te.

Ciao

NB funziona solo quando l'output è settato come nell'esempio in XML



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[Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2017-01-27 Thread Denis Carriere
Good day everyone,

Thanks for everyone who provided feedback related to the Ottawa import
plan, all of the concerns & issues have been resolved.

Going to officially announce that we will be starting the Ottawa building &
address import.

*OSM Wiki - Import Plan*
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan


*Explicit Permission from the City of Ottawa*
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:
Ottawa/Import/Plan#Explicit_permission

*Video instruction (**YouTube)*
https://youtu.be/OkFCkPBR7PA

*City of Ottawa's open datasets*
http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/urban-buildings
http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/addresspoints

*Tasking Manager #37 (private - invite only)*
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/37

Cheers,

*~~*
*Denis Carriere*

*GIS Software & Systems SpecialistOSM Account: @DenisCarriere
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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Pubblicazioni commerciali

2017-01-27 Thread Daniele



Il 27/01/2017 19:07, Dario Zontini ha scritto:

Una curiosità mia,  che tipo ti pubblicazione verrà fatta?

No ti so dire
mi è stato chiesto da un collega per un suo amico


Provo a fare una sintesi con un esempio.
Se fai una stampa cartacea devi inserire : Dati © OpenStreetMap.org 
  and contributors
La licenza con cui puoi rilasciare la la mappa dipende se usi uno 
stile tuo oppure quello fornito da Osm. Se usi lo stile Osm la licenza 
è cc-by-sa.


Se invece parliamo di database le cose sono diverse e si usa odbl




Dario Zontini

Inviato da Samsung Mobile

Il 27 Gen 2017 6:33 PM, "Daniele" > ha scritto:


Ciao

Mi sono state chieste informazioni sull'utilizzo delle mappe di OSM
per realizzare una pubblicazione commerciale

Leggendo questo:


  /Cos’è questa storia della licenza?/

//

/Dal 12 Settembre 2012 il database di /OpenStreetMap/ viene
distribuito sotto licenza  “Open Database Licence (ODbL)
 1.0″, i singoli
oggetti nel database sono sotto “Database Contents License (DbCL)
1.0”. La licenza dice che qualsiasi forma di uso dei dati
OpenStreetMap, anche a scopo di lucro / commercialmente, è
consentita, finchè le condizioni della licenza vengano rispettate.
La ODbL distingue tra l’uso dei dati in forma di database e la
produzione in un opera (“Produced Work”) dai dati, per esempio una
mappa stampata su carta. Banche dati derivate possono essere
distribuite soltanto sotto la ODbL, mentre per i “produced works”
l’unico vincolo è di fornire la fonte e casomai rendere
disponibile una banca dati derivata in forma idonea se fosse stata
prodotta per creare l’opera (un alternativa è di descrivere
in maniera replicabile il metodo usato per ottenere il
database derivato)./

//

non sono riuscito a capire se è sufficiente questa dicitura

/Dati © OpenStreetMap  – Pubblicati
sotto ODbL /

e se deve essere riportata su ogni cartina stampata all'interno
della guida
(mi sembrerebbe anche corretto)

Grazie
Daniele



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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Pubblicazioni commerciali

2017-01-27 Thread Dario Zontini
Una curiosità mia,  che tipo ti pubblicazione verrà fatta?

Provo a fare una sintesi con un esempio.
Se fai una stampa cartacea devi inserire : Dati © OpenStreetMap.org   and
contributors.
La licenza con cui puoi rilasciare la la mappa dipende se usi uno stile tuo
oppure quello fornito da Osm. Se usi lo stile Osm la licenza è cc-by-sa.

Se invece parliamo di database le cose sono diverse e si usa odbl




Dario Zontini

Inviato da Samsung Mobile

Il 27 Gen 2017 6:33 PM, "Daniele"  ha scritto:

> Ciao
>
> Mi sono state chieste informazioni sull'utilizzo delle mappe di OSM
> per realizzare una pubblicazione commerciale
>
> Leggendo questo:
> *Cos’è questa storia della licenza?*
>
> *Dal 12 Settembre 2012 il database di OpenStreetMap viene
> distribuito sotto licenza  “Open Database Licence (ODbL)
>  1.0″, i singoli oggetti
> nel database sono sotto “Database Contents License (DbCL) 1.0”. La
> licenza dice che qualsiasi forma di uso dei dati OpenStreetMap, anche a
> scopo di lucro / commercialmente, è consentita, finchè le condizioni
> della licenza vengano rispettate. La ODbL distingue tra l’uso dei dati
> in forma di database e la produzione in un opera (“Produced Work”)
> dai dati, per esempio una mappa stampata su carta. Banche dati derivate
> possono essere distribuite soltanto sotto la ODbL, mentre per i “produced
> works” l’unico vincolo è di fornire la fonte e casomai rendere disponibile
> una banca dati derivata in forma idonea se fosse stata prodotta per creare
> l’opera (un alternativa è di descrivere in maniera replicabile il metodo
> usato per ottenere il database derivato).*
>
> non sono riuscito a capire se è sufficiente questa dicitura
>
> *Dati © OpenStreetMap  – Pubblicati sotto
> ODbL *
> e se deve essere riportata su ogni cartina stampata all'interno della
> guida
> (mi sembrerebbe anche corretto)
>
> Grazie
> Daniele
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] U.S.-Mexico border fence update

2017-01-27 Thread Michael Corey
Hi Norman, thanks! The fence is near the border, but almost never
exactly on it, and it has lots of turns and mini-segments. But the
actual border line sometimes gets stuck to if if people aren't careful
in the editor.


Michael Corey
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twitter: @mikejcorey

On 01/24/2017 05:44 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
> On 1/24/2017 11:24 AM, Michael Corey wrote:
>> Thanks, folks, these are good suggestions. I think posting the map in
>> Github is a good first step -- we first have to iron our our licensing
>> so it's compatible with OSM and with our own licenses.
> 
> Just to note, if it's based on the OSM border data, it's automatically
> ODbL and compatible with OSM, so there should be no problems there.
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Re: [Talk-es] Etiquetando fuentes

2017-01-27 Thread Iñaki

Buenas tardes, Ibai:

Un pequeño aporte a una afirmación suya. Se refiere a “/muchas veces es 
difícil verificar la potabilidad de un manantial, pero mapeadores de la 
zona pueden saberlo, por ejemplo, porque "toda la vida" se ha bebido de 
allí/”. Que todo el mundo lo haga, no es garantía de nada; es más, el 
Ayuntamiento del pueblo en el que resido, en más de una ocasión, ha 
publicado análisis de esas fuentes “de toda la vida” pero en las que la 
presencia de fecales, por ejemplo, es evidente. Consecuentemente, la 
decisión administrativa era anunciar con letreros la no potabilidad del 
agua. ¿Cree Ud. que muchos hacen caso? Pues no, hacen lo contrario, caso 
omiso.


Y si se refiere Ud. al monte, si esos montes pasta el ganado, es mucho 
más que probable que desde la perspectiva de la sanidad las fuentes no 
sean potables. Yo, personalmente, no me atrevería a marcar ninguna 
fuente como potable, si hay ganado pastando. Pero, claro, para gustos 
los colores.


Saludos,

Iñaki



El 27/01/2017 a las 12:31, Ibai Gurrutxaga escribió:


Hola.

Entiendo tu razonamiento, pero revisando la wiki, no me cuadra del todo.

Según la wiki en inglés [1] "drinking_water=yes" en un "spring" indica 
que el agua es potable: "when tagging a natural=spring that has 
potable water for use, tag the spring with drinking_water=yes." La 
trampa está en que eso lo dice en la wiki de "amenity=drinking_water". 
La verdad es que seguir la wiki es a veces complicado...


Coincido contigo en que muchas veces es difícil verificar la 
potabilidad de un manantial, pero mapeadores de la zona pueden 
saberlo, por ejemplo, porque "toda la vida" se ha bebido de allí.


Por tanto, mi interpretación es:
· natural=spring para todo manantial de agua que surja de manera 
natural (tenga tubito o no).
· drinking_water=yes si se conoce que es potable, ya sea por 
conocimiento de uso habitual, cartel, inscripción...
· drinking_water:legal=yes Si hay un cartel que indique que una 
autoridad publica verifica la potabilidad. Si hay un cartel que dice 
"potable", pero no indica quién lo verifica, no lo pondría.


Saludos,
Ibai Gurrutxaga.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddrinking_water


On 26/01/17 19:40, Jan Esquerra wrote:


Yo tengo entendido que agua potable es safe drinking water, 
estrictamente hablando.


Ademas que sea potable o no, a menos que tenga un cartelito, es 
dificilmente verificable por un contribuidor de osm que mapee el 
lugar. Si tiene el cartelito, entonces añado el :legal=yes/no


Mi razonamiento es que, siendo spring todas las surgencias de agua, 
el drinking_water=yes indica en las que podre beber o llenar la 
botella. Otro tema es que los renders lo tengan en cuenta (algun dia 
sera).
Las que no tienen tubito tambien existen, ergo las mapeo, por si a 
alguien le interesa saber donde hay una, por ejemplo a mi perro, que 
bebe de qualquir charco i no lleva cantimplora para llenar ;-)




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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Pubblicazioni commerciali

2017-01-27 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
In breve:
- sui prodotti derivati dai dati devi sempre dichiarare che si fa uso
dei dati di openstreetmap (es. mappa)
- le modifiche al database vanno restituite al database

Lo sfruttamento commerciale è pertanto possibile seguendo quei due vincoli

Online trovi molto materiale e da parte della OSM Foundation trovi
anche delle linee guida.
Rimando a queste due letture in italiano
https://openstreetmap.it/2014/08/ai-confini-della-licenza/
https://openstreetmap.it/2014/03/in-quali-casi-vengono-attivate-le-clausole-di-condivisione-allo-stesso-modo-share-alike/

2017-01-27 18:32 GMT+01:00 Daniele :
> Ciao
>
> Mi sono state chieste informazioni sull'utilizzo delle mappe di OSM
> per realizzare una pubblicazione commerciale
>
> Leggendo questo:
>
> Cos’è questa storia della licenza?
>
> Dal 12 Settembre 2012 il database di OpenStreetMap viene distribuito sotto
> licenza  “Open Database Licence (ODbL) 1.0″, i singoli oggetti nel database
> sono sotto “Database Contents License (DbCL) 1.0”. La licenza dice che
> qualsiasi forma di uso dei dati OpenStreetMap, anche a scopo di lucro /
> commercialmente, è consentita, finchè le condizioni della licenza vengano
> rispettate. La ODbL distingue tra l’uso dei dati in forma di database e la
> produzione in un opera (“Produced Work”) dai dati, per esempio una mappa
> stampata su carta. Banche dati derivate possono essere distribuite soltanto
> sotto la ODbL, mentre per i “produced works” l’unico vincolo è di fornire la
> fonte e casomai rendere disponibile una banca dati derivata in forma idonea
> se fosse stata prodotta per creare l’opera (un alternativa è di descrivere
> in maniera replicabile il metodo usato per ottenere il database derivato).
>
> non sono riuscito a capire se è sufficiente questa dicitura
>
> Dati © OpenStreetMap – Pubblicati sotto ODbL
>
> e se deve essere riportata su ogni cartina stampata all'interno della guida
> (mi sembrerebbe anche corretto)
>
> Grazie
> Daniele
>
>
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[Talk-it-trentino] Pubblicazioni commerciali

2017-01-27 Thread Daniele

Ciao

Mi sono state chieste informazioni sull'utilizzo delle mappe di OSM
per realizzare una pubblicazione commerciale

Leggendo questo:


 /Cos’è questa storia della licenza?/

//

/Dal 12 Settembre 2012 il database di /OpenStreetMap/ viene 
distribuito sotto licenza  “Open Database Licence (ODbL) 
 1.0″, i singoli oggetti 
nel database sono sotto “Database Contents License (DbCL) 1.0”. La 
licenza dice che qualsiasi forma di uso dei dati OpenStreetMap, anche a 
scopo di lucro / commercialmente, è consentita, finchè le condizioni 
della licenza vengano rispettate. La ODbL distingue tra l’uso dei dati 
in forma di database e la produzione in un opera (“Produced Work”) 
dai dati, per esempio una mappa stampata su carta. Banche dati derivate 
possono essere distribuite soltanto sotto la ODbL, mentre per 
i “produced works” l’unico vincolo è di fornire la fonte e 
casomai rendere disponibile una banca dati derivata in forma idonea se 
fosse stata prodotta per creare l’opera (un alternativa è di descrivere 
in maniera replicabile il metodo usato per ottenere il database derivato)./


//

non sono riuscito a capire se è sufficiente questa dicitura

/Dati © OpenStreetMap  – Pubblicati sotto 
ODbL /


e se deve essere riportata su ogni cartina stampata all'interno della guida
(mi sembrerebbe anche corretto)

Grazie
Daniele


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[Talk-it] Tag eterogenei su nodo

2017-01-27 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
In tempi di crisi i PDI commerciali sono piuttosto effimeri.

Sulla coesistenza sullo stesso nodo di PDI e addr:*

Sarebbe auspicabile fossero separati, in quanto alcuni editor non
chiariscono all'utente che sta cancellando un PDI che esistono tag addr
associati; questi potrebbe essere ingiustamente cancellati.
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Re: [Talk-it] mappatura bar in Italia

2017-01-27 Thread THESTORM375
però ci sono dei comune del nord ho visto che hanno mappato anche i numeri
civici.. come Padova... Milano..Torino..Cesena..Firenze ecc..però più la
mappa è dettagliata meglio è ...


Il giorno ven 27 gen 2017 alle ore 18:06 Cascafico Giovanni <
cascaf...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Vivo in un comune ad altissima densità di bar e di tasso alcolico. L'idea
> di mapparli tutti a questo livello di dettaglio é tanto ardita quanto
> quella di mappare tutti i numeri civici. Però per la seconda ci é venuta in
> aiuto l'amministrazione regionale.
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Re: [Talk-it] mappatura bar in Italia

2017-01-27 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Vivo in un comune ad altissima densità di bar e di tasso alcolico. L'idea
di mapparli tutti a questo livello di dettaglio é tanto ardita quanto
quella di mappare tutti i numeri civici. Però per la seconda ci é venuta in
aiuto l'amministrazione regionale.

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Re: [OSM-co] Ulloa, Quindio

2017-01-27 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
El 26 de enero de 2017, 21:44, hyan...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Hola comunidad,
>
> excelentes imágenes de drone y amplia cobertura para Ulloa, Quindio:
>
> http://tareas.openstreetmap.co/project/38
>
> que las disfruten y feliz mapeo!
>
> Humberto Yances
>


*Fe de errata: * Ulloa se encuentra en en el Valle del Cauca
 
*Súplica:* por favor marquen los cuadrantes terminados en el "tareas
", gracias 
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Andy Robinson
Oh joys J

 

On the plus side there are a lot more new users in those 30 ish who have added 
more than one item and one or two who have added some really good new stuff, so 
in some ways the attention will have some upsides.

 

Just need to be vigilant around our own patches.

 

Cheers

Andy 

 

From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 January 2017 16:16
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb; talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

 

Hi Andy,


These are Pokemon Go edits driven by the fact that the South Korea release of 
the game is definitely using OSM as the base map.

Total number of editors has picked up massively worldwide in the past few days 
with a ridiculous peak of 3000 new users a minute sometime this afternoon 
(although this may be a SEO-driven peak in the US).

Certainly whatever the basis of the influx its quite a lot to handle for 
existing 'data curators'. See the current range of changeset discussions. It's 
difficult to be sure, but I think there's an uptick in other edits too.

Jerry

 

 

 

On 27 January 2017 at 16:03, Andy Robinson  wrote:

There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or adding
to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in placed
but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
thus far no responses.

Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University course
or something.

Cheers
Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Andy Robinson
Oh joys J

 

On the plus side there are a lot more new users in those 30 ish who have added 
more than one item and one or two who have added some really good new stuff, so 
in some ways the attention will have some upsides.

 

Just need to be vigilant around our own patches.

 

Cheers

Andy 

 

From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 January 2017 16:16
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb; talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

 

Hi Andy,


These are Pokemon Go edits driven by the fact that the South Korea release of 
the game is definitely using OSM as the base map.

Total number of editors has picked up massively worldwide in the past few days 
with a ridiculous peak of 3000 new users a minute sometime this afternoon 
(although this may be a SEO-driven peak in the US).

Certainly whatever the basis of the influx its quite a lot to handle for 
existing 'data curators'. See the current range of changeset discussions. It's 
difficult to be sure, but I think there's an uptick in other edits too.

Jerry

 

 

 

On 27 January 2017 at 16:03, Andy Robinson  wrote:

There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or adding
to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in placed
but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
thus far no responses.

Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University course
or something.

Cheers
Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Nick Allen
Hi Andy,

I update http://learnosm.org/en/  and I'm seeing many searches on the site
concerning pokemon go.

Also, some visitors are from
https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/5q4ctl/warning_players_of_pok%C3%A9mon_go_may_be_editing_osm/
& other sections on reddit.

Maybe connected?

Nick
(Tallguy)

On 27 Jan 2017 16:04, "Andy Robinson"  wrote:

> There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
> last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or
> adding
> to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in
> placed
> but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
> area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
> obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
> some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
> thus far no responses.
>
> Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University
> course
> or something.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
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Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Michael Booth
It's been mentioned on reddit: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/5q4ctl/warning_players_of_pok%C3%A9mon_go_may_be_editing_osm/ 
and 
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5pvkkn/about_openstreetmap_and_pokemon_go


People are commenting on changesets but if new users don't read their 
emails or it goes to their spam folder then there's not much chance of a 
reply. Needs to be an indication on the website like with user messages.


Some are just carrying out drive-by vandalism by adding fake parks, etc. 
- easily reverted. Others are adding more features which is good but 
they usually have the newbie mistakes of paths not connecting to roads 
etc. - hopefully they respond to the comments and stick around.


On 27/01/2017 16:03, Andy Robinson wrote:

There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or adding
to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in placed
but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
thus far no responses.

Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University course
or something.

Cheers
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Re: [Talk-it] mappatura bar in Italia

2017-01-27 Thread THESTORM375
secondo me basta che metti il tag più adatto e hai fatto.. perchè se per
esempio è un bar.. metti bar.. ecc.. le differenze alcune volte possono
essere minime ..per esempio tra il tag  bar o caffè.. però secondo me devi
pensare un po sulle caratteristiche di quel bar.. perchè poi se.. per
eesempio ha anche una salo ballo dietro.. basta che aggiungi due pdi vicini
tra di loro .. uno con tag del bar e uno con il tag discoteca o
nightclub... tutto qui :)
 Io è da bene circa un anno e mezzo che mappo su openstreetmap.. ti
capisco.. d'altronde.. io sono vicino Roma e ti ringrazio tantissimo che
stai mappando altri bar .. inoltre se per esempio un bar della tua zona ha
chiuso .e sta ancora mappato sulla mappa .. toglilo ok? cosi la mappa
rimane in continuo aggiuornamento .. se hai bisogno di aiuto non esitare a
chiedere più informazioni :)

Il giorno ven 27 gen 2017 alle ore 17:08 Volker Schmidt 
ha scritto:

> Benvenuto nel mondo di OpenStreetMap.
>
> Purtroppo non posso esserci al OSMit2017, mi sarebbe piaciuto tanto darti
> una mano nel ricerco su terreno su questo eterno problema.
>
>
> 2017-01-27 16:48 GMT+01:00 Jacopo Primavera :
>
> Ciao a tutti,
>
>
> sono nuovo di OSM ma è una settimana che sono in "full immersion" :)
>
> Mi spiace presentarmi con questo argomento che ho visto negli archivi aver
> sollevato infinite discussioni (anche molto divertenti a leggerle così
> tutte di un fiato!), ma ho intenzione di mappare tutti i bar della zona di
> Roma dove vivo e quindi ho bisogno di confrontarmi con voi.
>
>
> 1. si è giunti alla fine a qualche tipo di accordo su come mappare i bar
> in Italia? gli archivi che ho trovato si concludevano senza soluzioni
> condivise... la situazione è sempre quella?
>
>
> 2. secondo me la prima fonte di confusione sul tema deriva dalle definizioni
> basate sui costumi anglosassoni che inevitabilmente si scontrano con le
> peculiarità locali... e vabè, fin qui siamo tutti d'accordo credo.
>
>
> 3. vedo poi una seconda fonte di confusione data dal tentativo di voler
> "catturare" categorie sempre più sfuggenti come quelle di
> *bar/cafe/pub/arts_centre/nightclub/internet_cafe/coworking*, le quali
> sempre più spesso oggi si sovrappongono.
>
>
> 4. Io vedrei bene un tag di livello intermedio, qualcosa come 
> *amenity=pubblico
> esercizio con somministrazione alimenti e/o bevande* abbreviato in
> maniera decente :) e poi declinato secondo le varie forme di bar con tag
> aggiuntivi del tipo alcohol=yes, music=no, snack=yes, tables=yes,
> table_service=no, wifi=yes,  ecc.
>
> In mancanza di questo tag contenitore io opterei per taggare i nostri
> bar/caffè con amenity=bar e poi aggiungere opzionalmente  questi tag
> booleani (yes/no) per descrivere meglio il locale. E' assurdo? Si può fare?
> Se lo faccio per i locali che mapperò creerò confusione? (intendo
> l'aggiunta di tanti tag nuovi booleani)
>
>
> 4a.
>
> il fatto di scegliere amenity=bar anziché amenity=cafè come contenitore
> principale per i bar di casa nostra (con l'eccezione delle sale da the, per
> le quali forse amenity=cafe è più calzante, ma che non sono proprio così
> diffuse!) risiede nel fatto che estrapolando nel wiki la parte di
> definizione *verifiable* ([...] purpose-built commercial establishment
> that sells alcoholic drinks to be consumed on the premises [...]), e
> tralasciando la parte *NON-verifiable* ([...] characterised by a noisy
> and vibrant atmosphere [...]), allora la descrizione mi sembra quella che
> più si avvicina al concetto generale dei nostri bar. Inoltre sempre nel
> wiki si raccomanda questo tag anche per i Mediterrean bars nonostante le
> note differenze che sussistono.
>
>
> Scusate la lunghezza del post e grazie!
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> ps. Sarò a genova 8-9 febbraio per OSMit e potrebbe essere divertente
> discutere della questione davanti a una buona birra in un bel bar (o cafe?)
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Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Tom Hughes

On 27/01/17 16:03, Andy Robinson wrote:


There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or adding
to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in placed
but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
thus far no responses.

Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University course
or something.


I suspect Pokemon Go is a more likely explanation.

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread SK53
Hi Andy,

These are Pokemon Go edits driven by the fact that the South Korea release
of the game is definitely using OSM as the base map.

Total number of editors has picked up massively worldwide in the past few
days with a ridiculous peak of 3000 new users a minute sometime this
afternoon (although this may be a SEO-driven peak in the US).

Certainly whatever the basis of the influx its quite a lot to handle for
existing 'data curators'. See the current range of changeset discussions.
It's difficult to be sure, but I think there's an uptick in other edits too.

Jerry





On 27 January 2017 at 16:03, Andy Robinson  wrote:

> There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
> last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or
> adding
> to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in
> placed
> but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
> area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
> obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
> some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
> thus far no responses.
>
> Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University
> course
> or something.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread SK53
Hi Andy,

These are Pokemon Go edits driven by the fact that the South Korea release
of the game is definitely using OSM as the base map.

Total number of editors has picked up massively worldwide in the past few
days with a ridiculous peak of 3000 new users a minute sometime this
afternoon (although this may be a SEO-driven peak in the US).

Certainly whatever the basis of the influx its quite a lot to handle for
existing 'data curators'. See the current range of changeset discussions.
It's difficult to be sure, but I think there's an uptick in other edits too.

Jerry





On 27 January 2017 at 16:03, Andy Robinson  wrote:

> There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
> last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or
> adding
> to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in
> placed
> but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
> area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
> obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
> some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
> thus far no responses.
>
> Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University
> course
> or something.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] mappatura bar in Italia

2017-01-27 Thread Volker Schmidt
Benvenuto nel mondo di OpenStreetMap.

Purtroppo non posso esserci al OSMit2017, mi sarebbe piaciuto tanto darti
una mano nel ricerco su terreno su questo eterno problema.


2017-01-27 16:48 GMT+01:00 Jacopo Primavera :

> Ciao a tutti,
>
>
> sono nuovo di OSM ma è una settimana che sono in "full immersion" :)
>
> Mi spiace presentarmi con questo argomento che ho visto negli archivi aver
> sollevato infinite discussioni (anche molto divertenti a leggerle così
> tutte di un fiato!), ma ho intenzione di mappare tutti i bar della zona di
> Roma dove vivo e quindi ho bisogno di confrontarmi con voi.
>
>
> 1. si è giunti alla fine a qualche tipo di accordo su come mappare i bar
> in Italia? gli archivi che ho trovato si concludevano senza soluzioni
> condivise... la situazione è sempre quella?
>
>
> 2. secondo me la prima fonte di confusione sul tema deriva dalle definizioni
> basate sui costumi anglosassoni che inevitabilmente si scontrano con le
> peculiarità locali... e vabè, fin qui siamo tutti d'accordo credo.
>
>
> 3. vedo poi una seconda fonte di confusione data dal tentativo di voler
> "catturare" categorie sempre più sfuggenti come quelle di
> *bar/cafe/pub/arts_centre/nightclub/internet_cafe/coworking*, le quali
> sempre più spesso oggi si sovrappongono.
>
>
> 4. Io vedrei bene un tag di livello intermedio, qualcosa come 
> *amenity=pubblico
> esercizio con somministrazione alimenti e/o bevande* abbreviato in
> maniera decente :) e poi declinato secondo le varie forme di bar con tag
> aggiuntivi del tipo alcohol=yes, music=no, snack=yes, tables=yes,
> table_service=no, wifi=yes,  ecc.
>
> In mancanza di questo tag contenitore io opterei per taggare i nostri
> bar/caffè con amenity=bar e poi aggiungere opzionalmente  questi tag
> booleani (yes/no) per descrivere meglio il locale. E' assurdo? Si può fare?
> Se lo faccio per i locali che mapperò creerò confusione? (intendo
> l'aggiunta di tanti tag nuovi booleani)
>
>
> 4a.
>
> il fatto di scegliere amenity=bar anziché amenity=cafè come contenitore
> principale per i bar di casa nostra (con l'eccezione delle sale da the, per
> le quali forse amenity=cafe è più calzante, ma che non sono proprio così
> diffuse!) risiede nel fatto che estrapolando nel wiki la parte di
> definizione *verifiable* ([...] purpose-built commercial establishment
> that sells alcoholic drinks to be consumed on the premises [...]), e
> tralasciando la parte *NON-verifiable* ([...] characterised by a noisy
> and vibrant atmosphere [...]), allora la descrizione mi sembra quella che
> più si avvicina al concetto generale dei nostri bar. Inoltre sempre nel
> wiki si raccomanda questo tag anche per i Mediterrean bars nonostante le
> note differenze che sussistono.
>
>
> Scusate la lunghezza del post e grazie!
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> ps. Sarò a genova 8-9 febbraio per OSMit e potrebbe essere divertente
> discutere della questione davanti a una buona birra in un bel bar (o cafe?)
>
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[Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Andy Robinson
There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or adding
to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in placed
but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
thus far no responses.

Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University course
or something.

Cheers
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] New editors working on parks

2017-01-27 Thread Andy Robinson
There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands over the
last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been adding new or adding
to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits (a little awkward in placed
but not unreasonable) but others are not, so if it's also happening in your
area keep a close eye. I'm reverting those in my watch rectangle that are
obviously inappropriate and I, along with I note some others, have added
some changeset comments to try and make contact where appropriate, though
thus far no responses.

Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University course
or something.

Cheers
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[Talk-at] Tagging help needed near Krimml

2017-01-27 Thread Jack Burke
Can a local OSM editor in Austria help verify that we have this tagged 
correctly? :-D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ski/news/driver-get-stuck-on-a-ski-slope-after-his-sat-nav-gets-him-lost/

I'm not much use. I don't speak German and can't tell a fahrvergnugen from a 
weinerschnitzel on a map. 

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[Talk-it] mappatura bar in Italia

2017-01-27 Thread Jacopo Primavera
Ciao a tutti,


sono nuovo di OSM ma è una settimana che sono in "full immersion" :)

Mi spiace presentarmi con questo argomento che ho visto negli archivi aver 
sollevato infinite discussioni (anche molto divertenti a leggerle così tutte di 
un fiato!), ma ho intenzione di mappare tutti i bar della zona di Roma dove 
vivo e quindi ho bisogno di confrontarmi con voi.


1. si è giunti alla fine a qualche tipo di accordo su come mappare i bar in 
Italia? gli archivi che ho trovato si concludevano senza soluzioni condivise... 
la situazione è sempre quella?


2. secondo me la prima fonte di confusione sul tema deriva dalle definizioni 
basate sui costumi anglosassoni che inevitabilmente si scontrano con le 
peculiarità locali... e vabè, fin qui siamo tutti d'accordo credo.


3. vedo poi una seconda fonte di confusione data dal tentativo di voler 
"catturare" categorie sempre più sfuggenti come quelle di 
bar/cafe/pub/arts_centre/nightclub/internet_cafe/coworking, le quali sempre più 
spesso oggi si sovrappongono.


4. Io vedrei bene un tag di livello intermedio, qualcosa come amenity=pubblico 
esercizio con somministrazione alimenti e/o bevande abbreviato in maniera 
decente :) e poi declinato secondo le varie forme di bar con tag aggiuntivi del 
tipo alcohol=yes, music=no, snack=yes, tables=yes, table_service=no, wifi=yes,  
ecc.

In mancanza di questo tag contenitore io opterei per taggare i nostri bar/caffè 
con amenity=bar e poi aggiungere opzionalmente  questi tag booleani (yes/no) 
per descrivere meglio il locale. E' assurdo? Si può fare? Se lo faccio per i 
locali che mapperò creerò confusione? (intendo l'aggiunta di tanti tag nuovi 
booleani)


4a.

il fatto di scegliere amenity=bar anziché amenity=cafè come contenitore 
principale per i bar di casa nostra (con l'eccezione delle sale da the, per le 
quali forse amenity=cafe è più calzante, ma che non sono proprio così diffuse!) 
risiede nel fatto che estrapolando nel wiki la parte di definizione verifiable 
([...] purpose-built commercial establishment that sells alcoholic drinks to be 
consumed on the premises [...]), e tralasciando la parte NON-verifiable ([...] 
characterised by a noisy and vibrant atmosphere [...]), allora la descrizione 
mi sembra quella che più si avvicina al concetto generale dei nostri bar. 
Inoltre sempre nel wiki si raccomanda questo tag anche per i Mediterrean bars 
nonostante le note differenze che sussistono.


Scusate la lunghezza del post e grazie!

Jacopo


ps. Sarò a genova 8-9 febbraio per OSMit e potrebbe essere divertente discutere 
della questione davanti a una buona birra in un bel bar (o cafe?)
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
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Re: [Talk-cz] PointInfo: přímý přístup do Nahlížení do katastru nemovitostí

2017-01-27 Thread Petr Vozdecký
ta aktivní vrstva je úplně boží... rozhodně je potřeba ji zachovat a 
rozvíjet tou optimalizací...

já ji používám vlastně jako jednu z nejdůležitějších věcí - v podstatě 
cokoliv vidím si ihned rozkliknu, jaké info o tom prvku v datech je... nejen
z mapperského, ale i z user hlediska...

BTW: do budoucna je potřeba pop-up rozdělit min podle toho, zda jsi user 
nebo mapper (= zalogovat se nebo nastavit via cookie), normálního usera děsí
ty tagy, kterými pop-up začíná...


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Datum: 27. 1. 2017 14:18:55
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nemovitostí

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Taky občas do aktivní vrstvy nahlédnu.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] La jungle de Calais

2017-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:53:11 +0100 (CET)
g...@laposte.net wrote:
>
> A mon avis ce serait bien dommage de supprimer, cela a une valeur
> historique

Le Planet complet contient l'intégralité des contributions depuis
l'origine - ont peut donc en extraire l'état d'Openstreetmap à
n'importe quel instant passé. On imagine volontiers un service analogue
à "OSM then & now"
(http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/50.9717/1.8951) de Martijn van
Exel avec le choix de deux dates arbitraires... Mais je suppute qu'il
consommerait une quantité déraisonnable de ressources. Quoi qu'il en
soit, la question de la suppression de ce qui n'existe plus ne se pose
pas: Openstreetmap montre ce qui est observable, tout ce qui est
observable et rien que ce qui est observable - et si des
versions anciennes contiennent des données intéressantes à titre
historique, elles ne sont pas perdues.

Ceci dit, même si un jour le site est un jour soigneusement nivelé et
bétonné, il me semble qu'il y a matière à ce que persiste un lieu-dit
"La Jungle" pendant un bon bout de temps.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread Christian Quest
On a toujours fait comme ça pour les données du cadastre... rajouter
l'année et ne la changer qu'une fois par an ne me semble pas être une
contrainte insurmontable ;)

C'est aussi la demande de l'IGN, donc je la respecte même si effectivement
on peut reconstituer l'info par ailleurs.


Le 27 janvier 2017 à 15:17, Jean-Marc Liotier  a écrit :

> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:19:50 +0100
> Stéphane Péneau  wrote:
> >
> > L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos
> > changesets lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.
> >
> > On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?
>
> Pourquoi expliciter la date de la source alors qu'elle est
> implicitement celle du changeset ?
>
> Évidemment, pour les objets du changeset dont la source lui est
> notablement antérieure - il est nécessaire d'étiqueter l'objet... Mais
> dans le cas courante je ne vois pas l'intérêt de le faire.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:19:50 +0100
Stéphane Péneau  wrote:
> 
> L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos
> changesets lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.
> 
> On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?

Pourquoi expliciter la date de la source alors qu'elle est
implicitement celle du changeset ?

Évidemment, pour les objets du changeset dont la source lui est
notablement antérieure - il est nécessaire d'étiqueter l'objet... Mais
dans le cas courante je ne vois pas l'intérêt de le faire.

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMit2017 a Genova 8-11 febbraio in FOSS4G

2017-01-27 Thread Alessandro Palmas

Il 26/01/2017 20:00, Volker Schmidt ha scritto:

Ciao Alessandro,

scusa che ti scrivo solo adesso.
Purtroppo non posso venire a OSMit2017 per motivi personali. Non sarò in
grado di viaggiare in questo periodo a causa di un piccolo intervento
chirurgico. Sarò a casa, e se prevedete partecipazione in con
videoconferenza sarei contento. Non ho preparato nessun paper da parte mia.



Ciao Volker,
UniGE non ha previsto la videoconferenza ma l'evento sarà registrato e 
reso disponibile più avanti.


Ad oggi gli iscritti in totale sono 192, 135 dei quali al convegno delle 
giornate di giovedì e venerdì.



Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT

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Re: [Talk-cz] PointInfo: přímý přístup do Nahlížení do katastru nemovitostí

2017-01-27 Thread majka
Taky občas do aktivní vrstvy nahlédnu.
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Re: [Talk-cz] PointInfo: přímý přístup do Nahlížení do katastru nemovitostí

2017-01-27 Thread Mikoláš Štrajt


-- Původní zpráva --
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Datum: 27. 1. 2017 14:02:09
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] PointInfo: přímý přístup do Nahlížení do katastru 
nemovitostí
"
Už jsem nad tím uvažoval. Ideální by byla i KM vrstva, ale to by chtělo 
nejprve rozdělit ten přepínač vrstev na vrstvy pro normální uživatele a 
speciální vrstvy pro mappery. Třeba tím, že se to rozdělí na dva panely. Ale
to by zase nejprve chtělo updatovat leaflet na verzi 1.0.3 a to znamená 
opravit/přepsat ten plugin, který využívá aktivní vrstva."



BTW -  používá někdo tu aktivní vrstvu? Třeba v Praze je díky velkému 
množství detailů prakticky nepoužitelná...




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Re: [Talk-cz] PointInfo: přímý přístup do Nahlížení do katastru nemovitostí

2017-01-27 Thread Marián Kyral
Něco jako mají na http://ikatastr.cz ?

Už jsem nad tím uvažoval. Ideální by byla i KM vrstva, ale to by chtělo 
nejprve rozdělit ten přepínač vrstev na vrstvy pro normální uživatele a 
speciální vrstvy pro mappery. Třeba tím, že se to rozdělí na dva panely. Ale
to by zase nejprve chtělo updatovat leaflet na verzi 1.0.3 a to znamená 
opravit/přepsat ten plugin, který využívá aktivní vrstva.

Věřím, že pak by mně to zase nakoplo a přidám pár drobností, o kterých 
přemýšlím. Ale na ty velké změny nemám dostatečné znalosti javascriptu :-( 
Akorát se v tom plácám a výsledek žádný :-(

Marián

-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Pavel Zbytovský 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 27. 1. 2017 13:48:47
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] PointInfo: přímý přístup do Nahlížení do katastru 
nemovitostí 
"
Ahoj,



to je hezký, Mariáne. Nešlo by to přidat třeba po otevření "coordinates" na 
osmcz? možná po checkboxu a jen v BBOXu CZE..




Už jsem po tom koukal dřív, ale tak captcha mě odradila.




Pavel







On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:34 PM Marián Kyral  wrote:

"
Ahoj,
protože je nahlížení do KN nově bez captchy, přidal jsem do PointInfa nové 
tlačítko "KN", které vede přímo do aplikace "Nahlížení do KN" - stejně jako 
když se na stránce se zobrazeným RUIAN objektem stiskne tlačítko "Údaje o 
vlastnictví".





Věřím, že se to bude hodit. Osobně mne zajímá vlastník hlavně u různých 
průmyslových areálů. Přes vlastníka si pak dohledám webové stránky a tam 
jsou pak další podrobnosti, jako třeba kontakty, otevírací doba - pokud tam 
mají i prodejnu.

Marián

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[OSM-talk-ie] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[Talk-in] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 340,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8656/

Enjoy!

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[Talk-it] Centro psicologico.

2017-01-27 Thread girarsi_liste
Nella mia zona è presente questa filiale[0] in un appartamento di un
edificio.

Devo mapparlo come nodo, ma i tag mi risultano alquanto difficili da
capire, per cui con un pò di ricerca sono arrivato a questa descrizione:

amenity=doctors

health_specialty:psychology=yes

health_specialty:psychiatry/psychology=yes[1][2]

health_specialty:adult_psychiatrypsychology=yes

health_specialty:child_psychiatry/psychology=yes

health_specialty:elderly_psychiatry/psychology=yes

name=*


[0] http://www.centrophoenix.net/team/

[1]
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/health_specialty%3Apsychology#values

[2]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0/Specialties


Motivo dela differenza tra psichiatra e psicologo è dovuto al fatto che
il primo può prescrivere medicinali, il secondo no, per cui mi pare
adatto psychology, stando al sito.

Vi pare adatto?

Grazie a chi mi risponderà.

-- 
Simone Girardelli
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semanárioOSM Nº 340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
Bom dia,

O semanárioOSM Nº 340, o resumo de tudo o que acontece no mundo OpenStreetMap, 
está publicado em português:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/pb/archives/8656/

Aproveite!

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semanárioOSM Nº 340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
Bom dia,

O semanárioOSM Nº 340, o resumo de tudo o que acontece no mundo OpenStreetMap, 
está publicado em português:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/pb/archives/8656/

Aproveite!

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semanarioOSM Nº 340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 340, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/8656/

¡Disfruta!

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semanarioOSM Nº 340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 340, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/8656/

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semanarioOSM Nº 340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 340, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/8656/

¡Disfruta!

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semanarioOSM Nº 340 17/01/2017-23/01/2017

2017-01-27 Thread weeklyteam
Hola, el semanario Nº 340, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en español:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/8656/

¡Disfruta!

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[Talk-gb-london] community mapping party in Millbank this Saturday

2017-01-27 Thread Nicolas Fonty
Hi London mappers.

If you are interested, the 7th JustMap mapping workshop will be organised
this Saturday 11am with the Millbank community.
It will take place inside a very inspiring exhibition dedicated to map the
area : the Millbank Atlas.
+ friendly lunch at 1pm with local !

All the details here :
http://justplace-london.blogspot.co.uk/p/second-coming-workshop.html

It is not a proper OSM mapping party because we focus more on community
ressources and proposals. But a lot of ressources could me mapped in OSM
(and are already mapped for a large part). We edited on our base map the
OSM POI, it will be the opportunity to see if some are outdated, misplaced
or missing.

here what we map :
http://n.fonty.free.fr/JustMap/Millbank/3-JM-Millbank_ReadMe.pdf
here the basemap :
http://n.fonty.free.fr/JustMap/Millbank/1-JMap-Millbank_A0x2-january13.pdf
here the OSM POI legend :
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Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread nwastra
Apart from the addition of numerous poorly edited parks, numerous footways 
(even with no construction or visible path on the ground), water features, etc 
by the followers of this children's game, I am also dismayed to see that wide 
shared cement ways that most would have previously marked as cycleways to aid 
cycle routing are now being changed to footways. Most of my osm editing time is 
taken up trying to fix all these poor edits. 
Hopefully all these new editors gain experience and become a valued editing 
force. 
Nev 
  
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:
> 
> Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number of new 
> mappers in Australia:
> 
> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425
> 
> and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every park is on the 
> map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.
> 
> In other news:
> 
> https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game
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Re: [Talk-es] Etiquetando fuentes

2017-01-27 Thread Ibai Gurrutxaga
Hola.

Entiendo tu razonamiento, pero revisando la wiki, no me cuadra del todo.

Según la wiki en inglés [1] "drinking_water=yes" en un "spring" indica
que el agua es potable: "when tagging a natural=spring that has potable
water for use, tag the spring with drinking_water=yes." La trampa está
en que eso lo dice en la wiki de "amenity=drinking_water". La verdad es
que seguir la wiki es a veces complicado...

Coincido contigo en que muchas veces es difícil verificar la potabilidad
de un manantial, pero mapeadores de la zona pueden saberlo, por ejemplo,
porque "toda la vida" se ha bebido de allí.

Por tanto, mi interpretación es:
· natural=spring para todo manantial de agua que surja de manera natural
(tenga tubito o no).
· drinking_water=yes si se conoce que es potable, ya sea por
conocimiento de uso habitual, cartel, inscripción...
· drinking_water:legal=yes Si hay un cartel que indique que una
autoridad publica verifica la potabilidad. Si hay un cartel que dice
"potable", pero no indica quién lo verifica, no lo pondría.

Saludos,
Ibai Gurrutxaga.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddrinking_water


On 26/01/17 19:40, Jan Esquerra wrote:
>
> Yo tengo entendido que agua potable es safe drinking water,
> estrictamente hablando.
>
> Ademas que sea potable o no, a menos que tenga un cartelito, es
> dificilmente verificable por un contribuidor de osm que mapee el
> lugar. Si tiene el cartelito, entonces añado el :legal=yes/no
>
> Mi razonamiento es que, siendo spring todas las surgencias de agua, el
> drinking_water=yes indica en las que podre beber o llenar la botella.
> Otro tema es que los renders lo tengan en cuenta (algun dia sera).
> Las que no tienen tubito tambien existen, ergo las mapeo, por si a
> alguien le interesa saber donde hay una, por ejemplo a mi perro, que
> bebe de qualquir charco i no lleva cantimplora para llenar ;-)
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Re: [Talk-br] wiki: PROJETO "MAPEANDO COM ESCOLAS"

2017-01-27 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Você não me entendeu. Eu propus colocar tão somente o texto do TXT

ou DOCX
.
O objetivo: com o ato, você ceder formalmente a obra ao wiki, já que você é
o autor original.

Como eu disse, não precisa formatar, eu posso formatar de imediato. Se
concorda, apenas copie e cole o TXT substituindo a página.

Alexandre Magno

2017-01-27 7:34 GMT-03:00 Sérgio V. :

> Ok,
>
> incluída página wiki com proposta e materiais básicos, como sugestão:
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Projeto_Mapeando_com_Escolas
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
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[talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Thread Andrew Davidson
Good news people. There seems to have been a surge in the number of new 
mappers in Australia:


http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=3=96=10==t=%3E=1000=c=n#5/-30.600/148.425

and they all seem to be *very* interested in making sure every park is 
on the map. Rivers and meadows are quite popular too.


In other news:

https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game


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[OSM-talk-fr] Statistiques...

2017-01-27 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry
Bonjour,
2 petites stats pour ce vendredi :
- 6175 : un record du nombre de contributeurs sur une journée (le 25 janvier), 
mesuré par Pascal Neis et relayé par Nicolas : 
https://twitter.com/n_dumoulin/status/824845409990242304 (possible effet 
Pokemon Go, notamment en Corée)

- 100% : je m'occupais mercredi d'une session à Decryptageo avec 6 
intervenants, donc 6 présentations. 100%, c'est la proportion de présentations 
qui incluaient une séquence de visualisation de données sur fond OSM. En prime 
certaines mentionnaient un géocodage sur BANO. Ou quand les signaux sont de 
moins en moins faibles...

Voilà :)

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[Talk-br] wiki: PROJETO "MAPEANDO COM ESCOLAS"

2017-01-27 Thread Sérgio V .
Ok,

incluída página wiki com proposta e materiais básicos, como sugestão:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Projeto_Mapeando_com_Escolas


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto query overpass

2017-01-27 Thread Marco
Grazie mille a tutti per le risposte; ho guardato al volo la soluzione di 
Andrea e sembrava restituire risultati verosimili. Oggi sono super occupato con 
il lavoro ma appena trovo il tempo di controllare i risultati vi faccio sapere.
Grazie ancora per l'aiuto
Ciao

On January 27, 2017 12:26:48 AM GMT+01:00, Andrea Albani  
wrote:
>Quello che cerchi penso si possa fare con la funzione augmented delta e
>quindi l'operatore adiff
>
>[out:xml][timeout:25][adiff:"2016-01-01T00:00:00Z","2017-01-28T00:00:00Z"];
>(
>  way["highway"]({{bbox}});
>);
>out body;
>>;
>out skel qt;
>
>La query ritorna le modifiche avvenute nel bbox nell'intervallo di date
>specificato: l'output generato contiene per ogni way un elemento
>
>con la variabile type che può valere create (quello che serve a te),
>modify
>e delete.
>Prova in una zona che conosci per capire se è quello che fa per te.
>
>Ciao
>
>NB funziona solo quando l'output è settato come nell'esempio in XML
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetCam plugin

2017-01-27 Thread Rod Bera
Hi Martijn,

both version 31 and 42 fail to install.
JOSM version used is 11429. Running under debian jessie.

Regards,

Rod


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> I wanted to ask your opinion about the OpenStreetCam JOSM plugin. If you 
> haven’t tried it, it’s in the JOSM plugin store.
> What are the top things you would want to see improved? What is working well? 
> Perhaps you have a desire to help out with development? We are planning 
> further development priorities and your input is important for that.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] There is a misunderstanding from new mapper with the tag name:*=*

2017-01-27 Thread joost schouppe
(waarmee ik bedoel : die mensen schrijven in hun tweede taal, dus daar kan
al eens een fout in staan)

Op 27 jan. 2017 10:29 schreef "joost schouppe" :

Neen, met Russen.

Op 27 januari 2017 om 10:05 schreef Philippe Casteleyn <
philippecastel...@hotmail.com>:

> De support van maps.me is ook ondermaats.  Zo een spellingsfout.  Werken
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[Talk-lv] piemēri

2017-01-27 Thread Rihards
05:10  hah, can i define the grassy center of a roundabout as
"grassland"?
05:10  i should prly look up some examples
05:10  Riga looks promising ;)
05:11  ah, there is a "grass" :)
05:11  thx riga

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] why welcoming makes sense

2017-01-27 Thread joost schouppe
>
> It's not limited to newbee's ... Check leisure park-use in centre of
> Brussels: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/lxP
>
> a stretch of grass doesn't make it a park me thinks.
>

Well, that's a different kind of problem asking for a different approach.
There's a huge tagging discussion going on on that very subject. Here it's
trying to find consensus and trying to convince mappers to map according to
that consensus.
(there's always going to be some data-wrangling involved when using OSM
data. Try and make a landuse classification for Belgium, and see what to do
with landuse=grass, natural=grass, landuse=meadow, landuse=farmland +  some
other tags etc)

The other is removing LOL-parks from the dataset :)

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Re: [Talk-se] attribut height på byggnader?

2017-01-27 Thread Karl Wettin
Hej,

här är ett två relevanta taggar som kan användas var för sig eller tillsammans:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels 


Du kan se ytterligare här:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building 


De här är också ganska trevliga för 3d-rendering:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:architecture 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:colour 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roof:colour 


Och här är 3d-taggarna fullt beskrivna:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_buildings 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D_tagging 




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> On 27 Jan 2017, at 09:56, Jürisoo Anders - SBF 
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> Hej,
> Jag håller på med ett jobb där jag tar fram höjder på alla byggnader i 
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> Vill minnas att det fanns en tag "height" i OSM. Men hittar inte den när jag 
> kollar xml:n från openstreetmap.orgs export.
> Undrar också om någon har ett bra tillvägagångssätt för hur jag tar det 
> vidare, vilken klient osv kör ni?
> 
> Höjder kan ju ge block för övergripande 3D-modeller. Men har tittat lite på 
> https://osmbuildings.org/ också, och ser där mer detaljerade modeller.
> Ligger de verkligen i OSM? I så fall kan vi försöka få till sådana också då 
> vi har det mesta i LOD2.
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Re: [Talk-se] attribut height på byggnader?

2017-01-27 Thread Tomas Marklund
Taggen height är dokumenterad på wiki, så i den aspekten "finns" taggen
åtminstone. Den är även relativt välanvänd.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height

/Tomas

Den 27 januari 2017 09:56 skrev Jürisoo Anders - SBF <
anders.juri...@helsingborg.se>:

> Hej,
> Jag håller på med ett jobb där jag tar fram höjder på alla byggnader i
> Helsingborg. Funderade på om vi kunde överlagra dem på OSM-byggnaderna i
> stan.
> Vill minnas att det fanns en tag "height" i OSM. Men hittar inte den när
> jag kollar xml:n från openstreetmap.orgs export.
> Undrar också om någon har ett bra tillvägagångssätt för hur jag tar det
> vidare, vilken klient osv kör ni?
>
> Höjder kan ju ge block för övergripande 3D-modeller. Men har tittat lite
> på https://osmbuildings.org/ också, och ser där mer detaljerade modeller.
> Ligger de verkligen i OSM? I så fall kan vi försöka få till sådana också
> då vi har det mesta i LOD2.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re: BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread gnrc
OK pour noter la date de la source ainsi "source=BDOrtho IGN imagerie 2016", 
c'est ce que je fais aussi souvent avec bing (ex : source=bing 2017 tuiles 
2013) dans les zones déshéritées de la planète ! 

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De: "Pierre-Yves Berrard"  
À: "Discussions sur OSM en français"  
Envoyé: Vendredi 27 Janvier 2017 09:50:25 
Objet:  Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset 

+1 pour "BDOrtho IGN" (sans espace entre BD et Ortho) 

"source:date" plutôt que "date:source" ? 

PY 

Le 27 janvier 2017 à 09:22, HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU / DT 
GE APPUI PERFORMANCE) < denis.hel...@reseau.sncf.fr > a écrit : 


C'est plus intéressant amha d'avoir la source sur les objets et de millésimer 
la date de prise de vue et non pas l'année de contribution. Du coup on peut 
avoir par exemple : source=BDOrtho IGN + date:source=2016 

Denis 

-Message d'origine- 
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Envoyé : vendredi 27 janvier 2017 08:20 
À : Discussions sur OSM en français 
Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset 

Hello, 

L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos changesets 
lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes. 

On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ? 

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[OSM-talk-be] There is a misunderstanding from new mapper with the tag name:*=*

2017-01-27 Thread Philippe Casteleyn
De support van maps.me is ook ondermaats.  Zo een spellingsfout.  Werken ze met 
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[Talk-se] attribut height på byggnader?

2017-01-27 Thread Jürisoo Anders - SBF
Hej,
Jag håller på med ett jobb där jag tar fram höjder på alla byggnader i 
Helsingborg. Funderade på om vi kunde överlagra dem på OSM-byggnaderna i stan.
Vill minnas att det fanns en tag "height" i OSM. Men hittar inte den när jag 
kollar xml:n från openstreetmap.orgs export.
Undrar också om någon har ett bra tillvägagångssätt för hur jag tar det vidare, 
vilken klient osv kör ni?

Höjder kan ju ge block för övergripande 3D-modeller. Men har tittat lite på 
https://osmbuildings.org/ också, och ser där mer detaljerade modeller. 
Ligger de verkligen i OSM? I så fall kan vi försöka få till sådana också då vi 
har det mesta i LOD2.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] La jungle de Calais

2017-01-27 Thread gnrc
A mon avis ce serait bien dommage de supprimer, cela a une valeur historique 
(dommage que OpenHistoricalMap soit Out), et je suis sûr que des chercheurs 
seront content de pouvoir analyser comment s'est construit et organisé cette 
micro société dans quelques années. Nota : garder un fichier des objets ".osm" 
permettrait des filtres et tris pour analyse. 

Il y a surement d'autres lieux d'archivage possible que OHM ! Dans le cas 
contraire, on devrait au moins garder une image faite des tuiles au niveau 
maxi(19) sur openstreemap.fr comme exemple de contribution singulière notable. 

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Envoyé: Vendredi 27 Janvier 2017 08:21:58 
Objet: [OSM-talk-fr] La jungle de Calais 

Un gros travail avait été fait sur la cartographie de la jungle de Calais. 

Maintenant qu'elle a été détruite, on supprime tout dans OSM ? 

J'avais cru comprendre qu'il restait certaines choses. Il y a t-il 
quelqu'un qui habite dans la région ? 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.97079/1.90557 

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread lenny.libre

+1

Leni


Le 27/01/2017 à 09:47, Romain MEHUT a écrit :
Je dirais même plus source:date=2016 cf. 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:date


Romain

Le 27 janvier 2017 à 09:22, HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF 
RESEAU / DT GE APPUI PERFORMANCE) > a écrit :


C'est plus intéressant amha d'avoir la source sur les objets et de
millésimer la date de prise de vue et non pas l'année de
contribution. Du coup on peut avoir par exemple : source=BDOrtho
IGN + date:source=2016

Denis

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Envoyé : vendredi 27 janvier 2017 08:20
À : Discussions sur OSM en français
Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

Hello,

L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos
changesets lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.

On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU / DT GE APPUI PERFORMANCE)
Toujours d’ordre je me trompe

De : Romain MEHUT [mailto:romain.me...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : vendredi 27 janvier 2017 09:47
À : Discussions sur OSM en français
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

Je dirais même plus source:date=2016 cf. 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:date
Romain

Le 27 janvier 2017 à 09:22, HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU / DT 
GE APPUI PERFORMANCE) 
> a écrit :
C'est plus intéressant amha d'avoir la source sur les objets et de millésimer 
la date de prise de vue et non pas l'année de contribution. Du coup on peut 
avoir par exemple : source=BDOrtho IGN + date:source=2016

Denis

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Envoyé : vendredi 27 janvier 2017 08:20
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Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

Hello,

L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos changesets 
lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.

On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread Pierre-Yves Berrard
+1 pour "BDOrtho IGN" (sans espace entre BD et Ortho)

"source:date" plutôt que "date:source" ?

PY

Le 27 janvier 2017 à 09:22, HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU /
DT GE APPUI PERFORMANCE)  a écrit :

> C'est plus intéressant amha d'avoir la source sur les objets et de
> millésimer la date de prise de vue et non pas l'année de contribution. Du
> coup on peut avoir par exemple : source=BDOrtho IGN + date:source=2016
>
> Denis
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Stéphane Péneau [mailto:stephane.pen...@wanadoo.fr]
> Envoyé : vendredi 27 janvier 2017 08:20
> À : Discussions sur OSM en français
> Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset
>
> Hello,
>
> L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos changesets
> lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.
>
> On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread Romain MEHUT
Je dirais même plus source:date=2016 cf.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:date

Romain

Le 27 janvier 2017 à 09:22, HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU /
DT GE APPUI PERFORMANCE)  a écrit :

> C'est plus intéressant amha d'avoir la source sur les objets et de
> millésimer la date de prise de vue et non pas l'année de contribution. Du
> coup on peut avoir par exemple : source=BDOrtho IGN + date:source=2016
>
> Denis
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> Hello,
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> L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos changesets
> lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.
>
> On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] why welcoming makes sense

2017-01-27 Thread Glenn Plas
On 27-01-17 09:06, joost schouppe wrote:
> Well, it goes to show that checking every single first changeset from
> new contributors is useful. And the best tracking tool is welcome.osm.be
>  IMHO.

It's not limited to newbee's ... Check leisure park-use in centre of
Brussels: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/lxP

a stretch of grass doesn't make it a park me thinks.

Glenn


> 
> (you could use http://neis-one.org/2016/01/suspicious-osm/ and add
> something like #reviewed in a changeset comment)
> 
> Op 27 januari 2017 om 08:56 schreef Marc Gemis  >:
> 
> Pokemon Go  users die denken/hopen/weten dat zo'n park een "nest" geeft.
> 
> 2017-01-27 8:53 GMT+01:00 Georges De Gruyter  >:
> > Dat is al een hele tijd bezig hoor.  Het is dweilen met de kraan
> open :(
> >
> > Georges
> >
> >
> >
> > Op 27-jan.-2017, om 08:49 heeft joost schouppe
> >
> > het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Because in the process, you'll find beautiful nonsense like this:
> >
> >
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/469253289/history
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

2017-01-27 Thread HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU / DT GE APPUI PERFORMANCE)
C'est plus intéressant amha d'avoir la source sur les objets et de millésimer 
la date de prise de vue et non pas l'année de contribution. Du coup on peut 
avoir par exemple : source=BDOrtho IGN + date:source=2016

Denis

-Message d'origine-
De : Stéphane Péneau [mailto:stephane.pen...@wanadoo.fr] 
Envoyé : vendredi 27 janvier 2017 08:20
À : Discussions sur OSM en français
Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] BD Ortho en source de changeset

Hello,

L'Ign nous avait demandé d'indiquer BD Ortho IGN 2016 sur nos changesets 
lorsqu'on utilisait leurs images aériennes.

On change en BD Ortho IGN 2017 ?

Stf


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