Re: [talk-ph] Proposed OpenStreetMap Philippines Logo
Hi guys, Here's the final logo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_Logo.svg We've gone with the design containing the sun + 3 stars and I modified it so that Palawan goes over the sun. Also, the star for the capital region is removed. This is in SVG format so you can blow it up without pixellating. Cheers! Eugene On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Rem, Yes, the logo will be in SVG format (made using Inkscape) so there will be no loss of resolution. :-) I will upload the (hopefully) final logo tonight. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:33 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: Please make the image in vector format so we won't lose resolution even if we enlarge it. I plan to have stickers made from it. Thanks! rem On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, It seems that the design with the 3 stars + sun is the overwhelming favorite among respondents on an informal Facebook poll: https://www.facebook.com/OSMPH/posts/136076383227310 If there are no further comments, we'll start using that design as the OSMPH logo (minus the capital star on Manila, per maning's request). I'll also start creating a simpler design suitable for BW and other situations where the complex logo can't be reproduced accurately. Cheers! Eugene On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: @Mark, I actually experimented adorning the magnifying glass handle, but it was far too small to be effective. @maning, The capital star wasn't actually there at first, but I decided to add it just to make it a bit more obvious that the map is of the Philippines. But I'm not hooked up on that star so it can go if people prefer that. I've also posted on the OSMPH Facebook page. :-) @Rally, I also plan to make a lo-fi version suitable for BW printing and/or smaller sizes. We can use the hi-fi version for posters, tarpaulins, and the like. I know that this could work for stickers as well maybe around 2x2 since I've seen stickers bearing the official OSM logo. The embroidered logo looks pretty nice and intricate. :-) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.comwrote: Can we ask some people in the paper, sticker and silk-screen printing business if the logo can be printed small enough on cloth, sticker, paper other materials such as mugs, without losing many details. Last year I requested my brother to try doing the OSM logo on embroidery for a possible souvenir patch giveaways. We had a hard time doing the inside shadings of the Magnifying Glass. The limitation is the numbers of stitches that can fit in an area, as well as the 10available colors in the embroidery machine. Attach is the simulated embroidery (rendering) of the logo if we use our available thread colors. (too bad the machine broke down even before we made the actual embroidery). :-( This can also be the potential limitation of any new logo design. How small can we print it on paper cloth? do we minimize subtle shadings or complex artworks that may be hard to print or to embroider. On silkscreen, small details tend to chip-off after several washing of clothes, or in case we want to use a medium with limited colors or shading, or even monochrome. Or we use two alternative logos, that OSM logo, the other with plain OpenStreetMap Philippines or OSMPH or plain PH (for limited color printing)? On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I like them both! Although I prefer the first version (PH map only). One personal request is to remove the star (Manila country capital), never been a fan of Manila as much more important than the rest of the country. :) Can we run a like campaign on facebook? Great work Eugene (as always)! On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's another version incorporating the three stars and a sun elements of the Philippine flag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_Logo_test.png So which one do you prefer? Comments and suggestions area welcome. :-) Eugene (aka: seav) On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a possible logo for OpenStreetMap Philippines: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:OSMPH_Logo.svg This is based on the official OSM logo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Public-images-osm_logo.svg I know that the OSMPH logo is a bit too detailed and complex for a logo, but I aimed to preserved as much of the official OSM logo which is a complex logo as well. If you have any suggestions or comments, feel free to speak up! Hopefully, we can use this to produce banners, stickers, and other materials that we can use to promote OSMPH in various events, like
Re: [OSM-talk] Missing attribution : Guardian Data and OII use OSM
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 February 2013 19:35, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the images, I can see attribution in the bottom left corners. It's a little small, but it's there: Ofcourse its there, anyone taking a screenshot , unless if it is intentionally removed . What I am asking was a mention in the text . Why do you think there should be a mention in the text? The OSM license does not say that the attribution has to be in plain text. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] Nine dash line on the map
It seems a Vietnamese mapper removed the nine-dash line from OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15014540 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:23 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Dear ian, Can you document a timeline of events regarding this matter and a propose course of action by the DWG? Maning Sambale (mobile) On Dec 16, 2012 6:03 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: Noticed the persistence of the other side[1], which created the so-called nine dash line[2]. He/she made similar edits a few weeks ago, which basically deleted our national border[3] (which twain somewhat restored[4]). I think that we should take this case to the Data working group, since what he/she/they are doing is an act tantamount to vandalism. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14269095 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dotted_line [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14024326 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14158931 Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Proposed OpenStreetMap Philippines Logo
Hi guys, It seems that the design with the 3 stars + sun is the overwhelming favorite among respondents on an informal Facebook poll: https://www.facebook.com/OSMPH/posts/136076383227310 If there are no further comments, we'll start using that design as the OSMPH logo (minus the capital star on Manila, per maning's request). I'll also start creating a simpler design suitable for BW and other situations where the complex logo can't be reproduced accurately. Cheers! Eugene On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: @Mark, I actually experimented adorning the magnifying glass handle, but it was far too small to be effective. @maning, The capital star wasn't actually there at first, but I decided to add it just to make it a bit more obvious that the map is of the Philippines. But I'm not hooked up on that star so it can go if people prefer that. I've also posted on the OSMPH Facebook page. :-) @Rally, I also plan to make a lo-fi version suitable for BW printing and/or smaller sizes. We can use the hi-fi version for posters, tarpaulins, and the like. I know that this could work for stickers as well maybe around 2x2 since I've seen stickers bearing the official OSM logo. The embroidered logo looks pretty nice and intricate. :-) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: Can we ask some people in the paper, sticker and silk-screen printing business if the logo can be printed small enough on cloth, sticker, paper other materials such as mugs, without losing many details. Last year I requested my brother to try doing the OSM logo on embroidery for a possible souvenir patch giveaways. We had a hard time doing the inside shadings of the Magnifying Glass. The limitation is the numbers of stitches that can fit in an area, as well as the 10available colors in the embroidery machine. Attach is the simulated embroidery (rendering) of the logo if we use our available thread colors. (too bad the machine broke down even before we made the actual embroidery). :-( This can also be the potential limitation of any new logo design. How small can we print it on paper cloth? do we minimize subtle shadings or complex artworks that may be hard to print or to embroider. On silkscreen, small details tend to chip-off after several washing of clothes, or in case we want to use a medium with limited colors or shading, or even monochrome. Or we use two alternative logos, that OSM logo, the other with plain OpenStreetMap Philippines or OSMPH or plain PH (for limited color printing)? On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I like them both! Although I prefer the first version (PH map only). One personal request is to remove the star (Manila country capital), never been a fan of Manila as much more important than the rest of the country. :) Can we run a like campaign on facebook? Great work Eugene (as always)! On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's another version incorporating the three stars and a sun elements of the Philippine flag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_Logo_test.png So which one do you prefer? Comments and suggestions area welcome. :-) Eugene (aka: seav) On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a possible logo for OpenStreetMap Philippines: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:OSMPH_Logo.svg This is based on the official OSM logo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Public-images-osm_logo.svg I know that the OSMPH logo is a bit too detailed and complex for a logo, but I aimed to preserved as much of the official OSM logo which is a complex logo as well. If you have any suggestions or comments, feel free to speak up! Hopefully, we can use this to produce banners, stickers, and other materials that we can use to promote OSMPH in various events, like the Open Data Day this coming February 23 (hint, hint!). Cheers! Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Proposed OpenStreetMap Philippines Logo
Hi Rem, Yes, the logo will be in SVG format (made using Inkscape) so there will be no loss of resolution. :-) I will upload the (hopefully) final logo tonight. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:33 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: Please make the image in vector format so we won't lose resolution even if we enlarge it. I plan to have stickers made from it. Thanks! rem On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, It seems that the design with the 3 stars + sun is the overwhelming favorite among respondents on an informal Facebook poll: https://www.facebook.com/OSMPH/posts/136076383227310 If there are no further comments, we'll start using that design as the OSMPH logo (minus the capital star on Manila, per maning's request). I'll also start creating a simpler design suitable for BW and other situations where the complex logo can't be reproduced accurately. Cheers! Eugene On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: @Mark, I actually experimented adorning the magnifying glass handle, but it was far too small to be effective. @maning, The capital star wasn't actually there at first, but I decided to add it just to make it a bit more obvious that the map is of the Philippines. But I'm not hooked up on that star so it can go if people prefer that. I've also posted on the OSMPH Facebook page. :-) @Rally, I also plan to make a lo-fi version suitable for BW printing and/or smaller sizes. We can use the hi-fi version for posters, tarpaulins, and the like. I know that this could work for stickers as well maybe around 2x2 since I've seen stickers bearing the official OSM logo. The embroidered logo looks pretty nice and intricate. :-) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.comwrote: Can we ask some people in the paper, sticker and silk-screen printing business if the logo can be printed small enough on cloth, sticker, paper other materials such as mugs, without losing many details. Last year I requested my brother to try doing the OSM logo on embroidery for a possible souvenir patch giveaways. We had a hard time doing the inside shadings of the Magnifying Glass. The limitation is the numbers of stitches that can fit in an area, as well as the 10available colors in the embroidery machine. Attach is the simulated embroidery (rendering) of the logo if we use our available thread colors. (too bad the machine broke down even before we made the actual embroidery). :-( This can also be the potential limitation of any new logo design. How small can we print it on paper cloth? do we minimize subtle shadings or complex artworks that may be hard to print or to embroider. On silkscreen, small details tend to chip-off after several washing of clothes, or in case we want to use a medium with limited colors or shading, or even monochrome. Or we use two alternative logos, that OSM logo, the other with plain OpenStreetMap Philippines or OSMPH or plain PH (for limited color printing)? On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I like them both! Although I prefer the first version (PH map only). One personal request is to remove the star (Manila country capital), never been a fan of Manila as much more important than the rest of the country. :) Can we run a like campaign on facebook? Great work Eugene (as always)! On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's another version incorporating the three stars and a sun elements of the Philippine flag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_Logo_test.png So which one do you prefer? Comments and suggestions area welcome. :-) Eugene (aka: seav) On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a possible logo for OpenStreetMap Philippines: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:OSMPH_Logo.svg This is based on the official OSM logo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Public-images-osm_logo.svg I know that the OSMPH logo is a bit too detailed and complex for a logo, but I aimed to preserved as much of the official OSM logo which is a complex logo as well. If you have any suggestions or comments, feel free to speak up! Hopefully, we can use this to produce banners, stickers, and other materials that we can use to promote OSMPH in various events, like the Open Data Day this coming February 23 (hint, hint!). Cheers! Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http
Re: [talk-ph] Proposed OpenStreetMap Philippines Logo
Hi guys, Here's another version incorporating the three stars and a sun elements of the Philippine flag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMPH_Logo_test.png So which one do you prefer? Comments and suggestions area welcome. :-) Eugene (aka: seav) On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, I created a possible logo for OpenStreetMap Philippines: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:OSMPH_Logo.svg This is based on the official OSM logo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Public-images-osm_logo.svg I know that the OSMPH logo is a bit too detailed and complex for a logo, but I aimed to preserved as much of the official OSM logo which is a complex logo as well. If you have any suggestions or comments, feel free to speak up! Hopefully, we can use this to produce banners, stickers, and other materials that we can use to promote OSMPH in various events, like the Open Data Day this coming February 23 (hint, hint!). Cheers! Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health facilities
Hi Steeve, On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Steeve Ebener steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org wrote: Dear Eugene, ** ** Thank you very much for your very good feedback. ** ** First of all, I just realized that attachments were not kept in the discussion list. I have therefore posted here the proposed form for data collection: http://www.gaia-geosystems.org/PROJECTS/PHL/HF_fields_for_OSM_040213.doc.* *** ** ** Now coming back to your feedback: ** ** **1. **Device used for location health facilities: Any device would be fine as long as they allow to capture all the associated information reported in the form (nbr of sat signal, horizontal accuracy, 5 decimals). Hmmm. 5 decimal places leads to a precision of about 1 meter. Most consumer-grade GPS devices don't have that precision. **2. **Use of Bing Map: Did you ever do an assessment of the horizontal accuracy of the images you can access through this platform? If yes, what is the maximum horizontal error you have encountered over the Philippines? If not, I would be interested in discussing a way to estimate this accuracy before these images are being used for collecting points. What about the availability of high resolution images in Bing map? Would you consider it has being equal or better than in Google Earth? Actually, the aerial imagery found in Bing Maps has the same quality characteristics as that of Google Maps. As you may know, satellite imagery coverage, whether it comes from Google or Bing, is a patchwork of individual satellite images obtained from various satellite companies like DigitalGlobe and GeoEye. Sometimes the position is spot on, sometimes not and it may be off by around 5 meters or more. In some places, Google has higher resolution than Bing. In other places, it's the other way around. Sometimes Google has newer imagery, and in some places, Bing has newer imagery. In some places, Google has imagery where Bing has none and in other places, it's the other way around. Hmmm... now that I think about it, why do you even need an accuracy of 1 meter? Even 10 meters (4 decimal places) is good enough especially for hospitals and big clinics that are bigger than 10x10 meters. I know that it would be good to be as accurate as possible, but if you end up rejecting perfectly valid data especially in remote areas of the country just because a clinic is not located down to the meter, then the effort might be a waste. We don't need to have almost-perfect data on the first try. Even just good enough would be OK for most applications I can think of. **3. **Copyright: thanks for pointing us to the Intellectual property code of the Philippines. I I downloaded it from here http://www.aijc.com.ph/PCCF/observatory/pfd%20files/policies/IPR/ipr.pdf but could not find the sentence you are referring to. Could you please tell me in which section of the document it is mentioned? Maybe that the above link does not point to the complete document. The PDF you downloaded is just Part I of the law. You can find a copy of the complete law here: http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1997/ra_8293_1997.html Please refer to Section 176. Eugene Thanks once more for your inputs and in advance for your answer on the above. ** ** Best regards, Steeve ** ** *Steeve Ebener, Ph.D.* CEO Gaia GeoSystems P.O. Box 795 – P.C. 114, Muscat - Oman cell: +968 952 57 526 email: steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org web: www.gaia-geosystems.org Twitter: @GaiaGeosystems LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steeveebener ** ** ** *From:* Eugene Alvin Villar [mailto:sea...@gmail.com sea...@gmail.com] *Sent:* lundi 4 février 2013 20:04 *To:* Steeve Ebener *Cc:* osm-ph; Mark Anthonie Bello; gerald aguinaldo *Subject:* Re: [talk-ph] Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health facilities ** ** Hi Steeve, We have some interesting issues here... ** ** On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Steeve Ebener steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org wrote: Dear Maning, Thank you very much for your email to the group and all the great work you guys are doing. Few complement of information from our side: - we need to standardize the way location are collected either using GPS devices or Google Earth/map. The attached form is therefore proposed for your review/feedback/comments. - In order to avoid duplication of work, the DOH would provide OSM with the list of facilities (including DOH codes) for which a coordinate is missing ** ** If OSM contributors will help locating health facilities by adding data to the OSM database, then our source will either be any of the following: 1. GPS device (standalone like Garmin or TomTom, or a mobile app like on Android or iOS) 2. By locating on Bing Maps. We cannot use Google Maps or Google Earth to add data to the OSM database, but we have permission
[talk-ph] Proposed OpenStreetMap Philippines Logo
Hi guys, I created a possible logo for OpenStreetMap Philippines: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:OSMPH_Logo.svg This is based on the official OSM logo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=File:Public-images-osm_logo.svg I know that the OSMPH logo is a bit too detailed and complex for a logo, but I aimed to preserved as much of the official OSM logo which is a complex logo as well. If you have any suggestions or comments, feel free to speak up! Hopefully, we can use this to produce banners, stickers, and other materials that we can use to promote OSMPH in various events, like the Open Data Day this coming February 23 (hint, hint!). Cheers! Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health facilities
Hi Steeve, We have some interesting issues here... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Steeve Ebener steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org wrote: Dear Maning, Thank you very much for your email to the group and all the great work you guys are doing. Few complement of information from our side: - we need to standardize the way location are collected either using GPS devices or Google Earth/map. The attached form is therefore proposed for your review/feedback/comments. - In order to avoid duplication of work, the DOH would provide OSM with the list of facilities (including DOH codes) for which a coordinate is missing If OSM contributors will help locating health facilities by adding data to the OSM database, then our source will either be any of the following: 1. GPS device (standalone like Garmin or TomTom, or a mobile app like on Android or iOS) 2. By locating on Bing Maps. We cannot use Google Maps or Google Earth to add data to the OSM database, but we have permission from Microsoft to use Bing Maps aerial imagery to add data ONLY to the OSM database. Other people are free to obtain the same data but via OSM's database license. 3. By extrapolating from the existing OSM data. For example, given an address of a facility, it may be possible to locate the facility just by interpreting the address. - Regarding the data sharing issue. It is now clear that we will have to keep OSM and DOH geo-location DB separated which means that: - it will unfortunately not be possible to integrate DOH points in OSM data This I find interesting. According to the Intellectual property code of the Philippines (R.A. 8293), No copyright shall subsist in any work of the Government of the Philippines. If the DOH data has been collected by DOH employees in the course of their official duties, then there is no copyright. The non-profit clause has been argued to be a separate right from copyright. If that is the case, then it *may be* should be possible to include the pure DOH data into OSM. - OSM collected points will be integrated into DOH DB with a clear mention of the source. I of course can't promise this will happen for sure, but I will personally work on getting an official acknowledgement from the DOH regarding OSM contribution to this work. In addition to that, the first discussion I had seems to indicate that it will be possible for OSM to mention their contribution to filling the gaps in DOH's DB. Please bare with me on this as there is still some way to go but I will keep pushing. Have you read the ODbL, which is the open license under which OSM data is licensed? Certainly, attribution to the OSM contributors is required, but the share-alike property also needs to be followed. Regards, Eugene Looking forward hearing from the group on your email and the above (I have registered to the mailing list) and the possibility to work together on this. Best regards, Steeve Steeve Ebener, Ph.D. CEO Gaia GeoSystems P.O. Box 795 – P.C. 114, Muscat - Oman cell: +968 952 57 526 email: steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org web: www.gaia-geosystems.org Twitter: @GaiaGeosystems LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steeveebener One Planet, One System Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Thank you -Original Message- From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: vendredi 1 février 2013 15:03 To: osm-ph; Steeve Ebener; Mark Anthonie Bello Subject: Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health facilities Dear everyone, I had a meeting with Department of Health (DOH) IMS division on the possibility of collaborating with the OSM-PH community. No clear plans yet on the collaboration but I would like to put forward the discussions in this list. = Overview = Basically, DOH intends to improve their database for the location of health facilities in the country. They will use the data on several information management of the Department. At the moment, they have several database developed in various projects. Each db uses a different system but one thing they lack is a uniform geographic identifier. An example of the db is available in the Unified Health Management Information System portal [0]. This online portal lists ~21,000 health facilities all over the country. At the moment they were able to geocode ~4,000 locations [2] (~20%). = What they need from OSM = A couple of ideas that were discussed are: - Verify the location of the 4,000 geocoded facilities in the existing OSM data. Right now, there isn't any clear evaluation on the accuracy of the locations (a process of Q/A is now being developed). Some facilities are actually in Sulu Sea! Check out the southern part of Negros island [2]. - Fill in the gaps. the IMS division have limited funds to individually verify and take GPS readings of each facility. OSM data can possibly fill in the gaps. Using the Overpass turbo [3], I was
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
You mentioned cleaning up the Wiki and the Help QA site. What about mailing list archives? Will the OSMF then start deleting emails if they contain Google Maps links? On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Because of the time constraints the removal of the google links is quite rough, however most (as in all except a handful) of the links were either old, outdated, or/and unused, as for example essentially all links to old errors in Google maps based on TeleAtlas data, which should have been deleted years ago. Naturally you can add back sanitized links, however I would in general question why we would want to use google data in our own documentation in the first place (that is naturally a different discussion). As for the rest Jeff Meyer has summarized it nicely. Simon Am 01.02.2013 18:57, schrieb Ilya Zverev: Hi. Regardless of that trademark business, I've checked Simon's edits and they mostly consist of removing links to google maps, which contain empty geocode parameter and them (and many other redundant parameters that editors didn't bother to omit). Some of the edits are quite funny, for example, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Essex_Waydiff=prevoldid=861689(removed a link to display kml with google maps). I cannot understand why links to google maps have become prohibited in our wiki, but there are probably one or two meaningful edits and lots of what can be called vandalism. For example, cleaning Copyright Easter Eggs pages from links to mentioned easter eggs. So, I vote for 1) reverting all those edits; 2) explaining in detail what is prohibited (what words, which links etc.) and what is not; 3) editing wiki more thoroughly, so every edit could be understood. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] Open Data Day 2013 on February 23
I've created the Facebook event page that you can all use to promote this event: https://www.facebook.com/events/200206363454234/ If you have a Facebook account and are going to the event, why not add yourself to the event page so that your friends can get interested as well. :) On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:11 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: A couple of updates on the event, we have three interesting ideas to map and hack: - help improve the OSM coverage at ARMM and teach ARMM staff to edit in OSM - hack around the open data provided by DSWD - help ASOG Inclusive Mobility project with mapping Metro Manila public transport terminals and hub If you have other ideas, just edit the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Events/Open_Data_Day_2013 On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:19 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: anak ng tokwa february 23 pa pala akala ko january 23. buti na lang may assignment ako kanina hahaha. see you FEBRUARY 23! :) rem On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM, RK rk.ara...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds fun. Saving the date :) On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:25 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: sorry guys mukhang di ako makakapunta, may assignment ako sa cavite. enjoy the activity! :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Ay sama ako diyan! I am sure may mapupulutan ako from you guys hehehe Paano mag-signup? sorry ha... di ako marunong magdagdag ng name sa mga wiki na yan. :) On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:09 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: This will be a full day event but very informal. You can come and go anytime but please add your name for logistical planning purpose because we have limited space. I invited some people who have some interesting problem which I hope we can help. The wiki is till in planning stage please add your interest (anything about OSM and open data). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Events/Open_Data_Day_2013 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: what time ba eto? try ko dumaan :) magdala ako drinks :) On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: rem, pwedeng-pwede. dun lang tayo sa isang corner para sa pulutan session... ;-) On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:21 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: pwede ba sa pulutan session na lang pumunta? :) im not as techie as all of you. im better with mano-manong mapping :) rem On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: I can bring fried-itik for pulutan :-) On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea where we can get some sponsorship for food? :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Romer Kristi D. Aranas Graduate Student Master of Science in Geomatics Engineering Department of Geodetic Engineering University of the Philippines Diliman, Quezon City -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Turn restrictions map
Hi guys, It's not enough to have a pretty looking map. The underlying data is also important especially for routing. So to help increase the quality of the data, there's a new map created by an OSM user in Germany. This map shows all of the turn restrictions (ex., no left turns, no U-turns) data in OSM: http://map.comlu.com/?zoom=17lat=14.55459lon=121.02085layer=Mapquest%20Open This is not the first such map, but this is certainly more responsive and informative than the other turn restriction map I've seen before. It also shows if there are errors in the turn restrictions. And you can also use it to see if there are any missing ones. Happy mapping! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Open Data Day 2013 on February 23
What do you guys think about having an OSM-related activity during the international Open Data Day[1] this coming February 23, 2013? Normally, Open Data Day is celebrated with hackathons and developer days. But we don't have to follow that formula. We can have a Mappy Hour[2] instead. :) Eugene [1] http://wiki.opendataday.org/Main_Page [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappy_Hour ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] 2013 OSMPH data stats so far
Hi guys, Here's a new year update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the January 1, 2013 Philippine extract). The % increase is in comparison to the start of 2012: OSM XML file size: 811 MB(47% increase) # Nodes: 4,143,313(49% increase) # Ways: 416,626(47% increase) # Relations: 2,855(61% increase) Total length of highways: 127,489 Km (47% increase) And the following is a comparison of the increase in amount of data within 2011, and the increase within 2012: 2011 2012 OSM XML file size:+226 MB +261 MB # Nodes: +1,251,032+1,363,521 # Ways:+156,718 +132,364 # Relations: +1,131 +1,079 Total length of highways: +26,825 Km +40,695 Km Keep it up guys! On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, Here's a 3rd quarter update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the October 1 Philippine extract). The increase is in comparison to the start of 2012: OSM XML file size: 767 MB(39% increase) # Nodes: 3,921,325(41% increase) # Ways: 392,970(38% increase) # Relations: 2,227(25% increase) Total length of highways*: 119,650 Km (38% increase) * This uses a different metric from the one maning is using. If we extrapolate the growth thus far this year to the end of 2012 here are the expected stats: OSM XML file size: 839 MB # Nodes: 4,301,836 # Ways: 429,206 # Relations: 2,377 Total length of highways: 130,602 Km And the following is a comparison of the increase in amount of data within 2011, and the extrapolated increase in 2012: 2011 2012 (extrapolated) OSM XML file size:+226 MB +289 MB # Nodes: +1,251,032+1,522,044 # Ways:+156,718 +144,944 # Relations: +1,131 +601 Total length of highways: +26,825 Km +43,808 Km Keep it up guys! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's a mid-year update (as of the July 1 Philippine extract). The increase is compared to the start of 2012: OSM XML file size : 709 MB(29% increase) # Nodes: 3,620,124(30% increase) # Ways: 360,949(27% increase) # Relations: 1,971(11% increase) Total length of highways*: 107,469 Km (24% increase) * This uses a different metric from the one maning is using. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some OSMPH data stats as of April 1, 2012 (last Geofabrik extract before the server downtime/migration) compared to the start of 2011 and the start of 2012: Stats as of 2011-01-03*: OSM XML file size : 324 MB # Nodes: 1,528,760 # Ways: 127,544 # Relations: 645 Total length of highways**: 59,969 Km Stats as of 2012-01-02: OSM XML file size : 550 MB(70% increase) # Nodes: 2,779,792(82% increase) # Ways: 284,262(123% increase) # Relations: 1,776(175% increase) Total length of highways**: 86,794 Km (45% increase) Stats as of 2012-04-01 (increase compared to start of 2012): OSM XML file size : 634 MB(15% increase) # Nodes: 3,222,586(16% increase) # Ways: 323,359(14% increase) # Relations: 1,833(3% increase) Total length of highways**: 99,934 Km (15% increase) If we extrapolate the 2012 growth to the end of 2012 we would have the following projected stats: OSM XML file size : 880 MB # Nodes: 4,560,000 # Ways: 440,000 # Relations: 2,000 Total length of highways: 139,000 Km * This is based on maning's stats. ** I think maning and I use different metrics for calculating the length of highways and that is why my figure for April 2012 is less than the 100,000 Km that maning posted recently. In addition, we currently don't account for dual-carriageway highways. So take the kilometer lengths as a rough metric. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node density visualization
Hi guys, Here's a new year update to the node density visualizations. Here is the absolute node density as of January 1, 2013: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/f/f2/Philippines_node_density_2013-01-01.png And here's the node density increase comparing January 2, 2012 and January 1, 2013: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/5b/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2013-01-01.png The increase in the number of nodes last year is pretty much distributed throughout the archipelago. The most number of increase is in the Quiapo area and this is due to maning's project there. Good work everyone! Let's make 2013 even better. :) On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Oops. Fixed a link Hi guys, Here's a mid-year follow-up to the node density visualization. Here's the density increase from the last time (June 3) to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/52/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-06-03_to_2012-07-01.png The new Bing imagery in June has resulted in increased data in Catanduanes, Metro Naga, Antique, Dumaguete, Butuan, and Tagbilaran. The new Orbview-3 imagery on the other hand resulted in increased data in Palawan, Romblon, and Antique. Here's the density increase from the start of the year to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/3/36/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-07-01.png And here's the node density map itself as of July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/80/Philippines_node_density_2012-07-01.png Compare to the one from the start of the year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Eugene On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's a mid-year follow-up to the node density visualization. Here's the density increase from the last time (June 3) to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/52/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-06-03_to_2012-07-01.png The new Bing imagery in June has resulted in increased data in Catanduanes, Metro Naga, Antique, Dumaguete, Butuan, and Tagbilaran. The new Orbview-3 imagery on the other hand resulted in increased data in Palawan, Romblon, and Antique. Here's the density increase from the start of the year to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-07-01.png And here's the node density map itself as of July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/80/Philippines_node_density_2012-07-01.png Compare to the one from the start of the year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Eugene On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I made a follow-up to the node density visualization I shared back in March. This time, the map shows the node increase compared to the data of the original map. Similar to before, brighter pixels represent areas with higher node count increases. Gray pixels show the original data as a baseline. You can view it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-06-03.png For comparison here's the original map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Take note that this is not a map of editing activity! It only merely shows node density increases. (So if someone deleted a node in an area and another one created a node, there will be no change in the node counts.) But this visualization does somewhat indicate where new data is being added. It's nice to see that most parts of the Philippines have seen an increase in data. You can see the obvious effect of the new Bing imagery that was released back in February as bright rectangular areas. Nice work everyone! Let's keep it up! :-) Eugene On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Correction, that should be 0.01°, not 0.1°. :-) On 2/25/12, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a visualization showing the node density of OSM data in the Philippines taken from the 2012-01-02 Geofabrik extract. Each pixel represents a 0.1°×0.1° degree square or approximately 1 square kilometer. Brighter pixels represent areas with higher node counts. View it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png The edges of available satellite imagery at that time is quite visible in some areas like Pangasinan, Cebu, Bukidnon, and Davao del Sur. As expected, brighter areas are places where there is a large amount of editing and with a large population. By the way, can you guess which place has the densest concentration of nodes (the only purely
Re: [talk-ph] When will OSM reach 1 million registered members?
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: An interesting take by Harry Wood on the 1M number: http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html This is the correct link to Harry's diary entry: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Harry%20Wood/diary/18354 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?
I prefer landuse areas to be darker than the default light gray background color in the Standard rendering. This makes it obvious (especially on LCD screens where lightness/luminance of colors vary depending on the viewing angle) that there is a tagged area there. You could make the case that the farmuse area could be lighter than it is now and/or use a different hue than brown, but don't make it as light as the default background color. On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, (full text and images at https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bYm9IWXdlVHM1N1U ) Recently landuse=farmland (or simply landuse=farm) has been added to fields near me. This has led to a discussion about how the rendering 'looks' with some arguing that it doesn't look that good. I believe that this may be due to the shade of colour used – specifically the farmland 'brown' is not as luminous as the default 'grey' (actually I think it 'lightness' rather than 'luminosity' that matters to the human eye but I got very confused when searching the two). Consider the image below, showing current rendering: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bZDBTN2dZZkpDenc On the left we have farmland tagged. The 'brown' has a Lightness value of 83 percent (luminance of 85%). Compare this to the default canvas 'grey', which has 93 percent Lightness (and 93 percent luminance). Now consider the following (and please check your screen calibration at http://www.photofriday.com/calibrate.php ). I have taken the farmland 'brown' and raised it's Lightness to the same 93 percent as the default 'grey' (that is, I have left the Hue and Saturation the same): https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bSzk5NDZVMm5GZkE In this final image, I have adjusted the Hue and Saturation to provide more of a 'green': https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bZXhzdVJMVU44X2M What are your thoughts? Which do you prefer? Have I gone too 'light' with the change and should some value in-between be used instead? Am I barking up the wrong tree? Regards, Rob Note: To focus discussion I want to avoid the argument that some people see farmland as the default and therefore it does not need to be tagged – it is a legitimate land-use tag and if people want to tag it then let them. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map even more flexible...
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Hi! I have added some more flexibility to the map at http://mlm.jochentopf.com/ You now have to explicitly tell it when you want to fall back to the name tag. Use the underscore (_) to do this. For instance with fr you'll only get the name:fr tag. With fr,_ you'll get name:fr and, if that doesn't exist name. You can now have several languages in one label, for something like München (Munich) you set it to de|en, ie. use the vertical bar between lines. The second line will appear in parentheses. You can combine all of this, for instance as fr,en|_. Of course this isn't perfect. You can get empty parentheses for instance. But hey, it's nice to play around with. It seems this new feature doesn't work at higher zoom levels, or at least with place=village nodes and roads. I still get name=* tags even if I didn't specify _. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] New Bing Imagery
Hi Totor, Great find! It seems Bing is ahead of schedule! I wasn't expecting new imagery until December (since they released updates in June and in September) Here are other areas I found that have new imagery: 1. A big patch covering northwest Mindoro (Lubang to Puerto Galera) and southwest Batangas (Calatagan towards Taal Lake) 2. A vertical strip passing through southern Isabela, eastern Quirino, and northern Aurora 3. A vertical strip passing through Cagayan. Cagayan is now almost completely covered and the whole of Tuguegarao is now covered. 4. A vertical strip in Misamis Oriental to Lanao del Norte. Laguindingan Airport is now covered and I think almost all of Cagayan de Oro's land area as well 5. A really tall vertical strip from just east of Marawi City all the way to the westernmost portion of Sarangani. 6. A vertical strip in South Cotabato centered around Mt. Matutum. I haven't done an extensive search so there may be others. Bing is releasing imagery faster than we are able to trace them! :-) On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I think I just found some new Bing Imagery: http://osm.totor.ph/Cebu_201204.osm http://osm.totor.ph/Palawan_201103.osm More armchair mapping in view... Cheers, Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] Is CC0 data compatible with ODBL?
CC0 is intended to have exactly the same effect as public domain in places where there is no public domain (or where you are not allowed by law to disclaim any copyright). So yes, CC0 is compatible with ODbL. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 6:16 AM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Trying to find this answer on the wiki, but I can't. Is CC0 data compatible with ODBL? Kind regards, * Nick Lawrence* Senior Spatial Science Officer | Geospatial, Road Design Competency *Engineering Technology Branch* | Department of Transport and Main Roads -- Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 30667977 | F: (07) 30668998 E: *nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au*nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: *www.tmr.qld.gov.au* http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/ *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] Booth/exhibit ideas for PhilGEOS symposium
How about our collection of OSM animations? :) On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Some preps for the PhilGEOS 2012 OSGeo-PH and OSM-PH exhibit booth: I downloaded all the images in the OSM-PH Featured image page and created slidedeck including the captions [1]. I plan to bring along a computer and show the photos in the booth. [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Featured_images [1] https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151289914332597set=a.10150670283217597.446504.345455082596 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The following would be nice: - Updated OSM banners - Updated and more professional-looking brochures/leaflets/pamphlets - A laptop continuously running OSM-related videos/animations (like ITO's A Year of Edits) - Garmin devices showing demo routing Anyone willing to pitch in the funds so we can produce the banner and the leaflets? :) On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, OSGeo PH and OSM PH will have an exhibition booth during the PhilGEOS Symposium at UP Diliman on November 23-24, 2012. Please share ideas on what we can setup in the booth. http://philgeos2012.wordpress.com/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL
Hi Igor, I'd like to address a couple of points. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Not one company will dare to give out their proprietary source code to someone, even if they release it under a very strict license. The risks of someone inadvertently then pasting that code on pastebin (example) are just too great - and there's no way back. This is not a problem of ODbL. If the end user distributes the source code against the wishes of the publisher then the user did so illegally. It's no different than if someone were to distribute MS Office binaries via Bittorrent against the EULA. Also, as Frederik mentioned, you don't have to to share the source code. Even a proprietary binary program (with all the DRM you want to prevent illegal distribution) would suffice. What's the purpose of it all, anyway? :) If someone releases the source code to a single person which then cannot share it with others, how does the larger OSM community then benefit from it all? The point here is not to share and give away software or source code but to share and give away data. Eugene ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL
Hi Igor, IANAL, so the following are just my opinions. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: They also don't really answer the question what is a Database. Let's take, for example, the statement Rendering databases, for example those produced by Osm2pgsql, are clearly databases. First of all, what are rendering databases? I don't share the same clearliness of that statement, frankly. A rendering database is a database that is used to render/draw a map. Raw OSM data is not often suitable for rendering maps and you need to preprocess OSM data into an intermediate database like the PostGIS DB produced by Osm2pgsql. As for what is a Database. This is a legal term and the most common definition used is from the European Database Directive since it is in the EU where we have database rights. Their definition of a database is a collection of independent works, data or other materials arranged in a systematic or methodical way and individually accessible by electronic or other means Another issue is machine-readable form of an algorithm. Who says I should interpret that as a source code? And if I do, under what license can/should/must I release the source code? I'm certainly not going to release my work under the Public Domain. Take note that releasing an algorithm is just an alternate for releasing the derivative ODbL database. And from the wording of the ODbL, yes, the algorithm doesn't have to be source code, just machine-readable which can mean any electronic text like: Use the program Osm2pgsql with the following settings on the following OSM extract... And if you want to release source code, it can be under any license with a reasonable cost or free if over the Internet. There is no obligation for the recipient to share with others. You can actually say, here's the source code, but you are not allowed to share it with others. I think the core issue that needs to be addressed and answered is: is there a place for proprietary/closed source software in OSM ecosystem? If we follow the strict reading logic of the mentioned guideliness and the one expressed in Frederik's answer, I would certainly have to say the answer is NO. There is actually place for closed software in the OSM ecosystem. You can use a proprietary map rendering software to draw maps made from OSM data or a derivative database (assuming the software doesn't itself create derivative databases.) And as I mentioned above, there is absolutely no requirement to release source code or even algorithms if you are able to provide the final derivative database used to create your produced work at a reasonable cost. Eugene On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Hi Igor, I wonder if this resource helps with your question? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Trivial_Transformations_-_Guideline (a work in progress) Mike On 22/10/2012 18:45, Igor Brejc wrote: Hi, Thanks for your clarifications, everybody. I was under the (looks like wrong) impression the produced work must also be available under the ODbL license. One issue still bugs me though: If the closed software you have used did not work on the data directly, but on some sort of pre-processed or augmented data, then *that* would be the data you have to hand over. What does pre-processed or augmented data really mean? OSM data has to be preprocessed to get to the form suitable for rendering. Some examples of preprocessing: Importing it into PostGIS and flattening the geometries (like Mapnik does it). Generalizations: simplifications of roads, polygons etc. for a certain map scale. Finding suitable label placements. Extracting topology from the data (like multipolygon processing, merging of polygons, road segments etc.). Running other complex algorithms on the OSM data. This preprocessing can be done on-the fly or (in case of Mapnik) as a separate prerequisite step. Igor On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 10/22/12 12:07, Igor Brejc wrote: 2. I generate a PDF map from that extract using an unpublished, closed-source software. The map includes the appropriate OSM attribution text. 1. Is this possible? Yes (assuming that the PDF is not a database). 2. What are my obligations in terms of ODbL license? What (if anything) do I have to provide, publish etc.? Recipients of the PDF, i.e. anyone who views iStockPhoto, would have the right to ask you to hand over the database on which the map is based. You would then have the option of saying it's plain OSM, simply download it from X, or actually give them the data. If the closed software you have used did not work on the data directly, but on some sort of pre-processed or augmented data, then *that* would be the data you have to hand over. 3. Would there be a difference if it was PNG/SVG instead of PDF? I don't
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-us] press from SOTM US
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:12 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: And this is where SA gets really hairy. It's entirely possible and actually quite common that part of a database that contains private data is public. E. g. public facing web sites that are powered from a Salesforce DB through a private API. Again, we need real-world examples. Working on this. Please take note that the legal term database* is different from the technical term database. Just because one website's data is in just one PostgreSQL or MySQL database doesn't mean that this whole database needs to be licensed under ODbL. * According to the European Database Directive, a database is a collection of independent works, data or other materials arranged in a systematic or methodical way and individually accessible by electronic or other means. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [talk-ph] 60% of the country is covered by Bing imagery
It seems you included all the other non-Bing imagery. So the 60% is for all available mid to high resolution imagery. :) On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, We often wondered how much of the Philippines is covered by Bing's hires imagery. Using the the data from out Imagery coverage map [0], I clipped the imagery outline polygon to the coastline data in OSM [1] and I got the value 180,466 km^2. We have roughly 300,000 km^2 of land. So, 180466 / 30 = 60% [0] http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ [1] http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8188/8115782445_b1651be93c_b.jpg -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Years of Edits in the United States by ITOworld
From the makers of the very excellent 2008-2011 Year of Edits map comes the version for the United States: http://vimeo.com/51341994 I hope we can create something like this for the Philippines. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Planned import: 7-Eleven Branch data
For branch=* vs. name:branch=*, there's already a proposal to use the plain branch=* key name: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:branch As for ref=*, while this is normally added to highways, ref=* can be used for anything where it makes sense such as ID numbers and reference codes. See this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: (I think this was asked before already) In case the import pushes through, what tag should osmph formally adapt for the branch name for those chain-establishments, branch or name:branch? (eg. Banks, Pharmacies, Fastfood Chains, 24/7 Convenience Stores, Gas Stations, Utility Companies) I think an issue was raised before, that tag branch was already in use somewhere in Europe to refer to a transportation line/route or something (can't remember). I don't know if it was adapted or dropped. So to prevent future conflict, I already used name:branch in some of my edits. Although I'm in favor of plain branch since it's easier to type, but we should make a formal proposal/inquiry with the other communities (especially if we have a substantial number of establishment-branches in PH to tag) Regarding ref= for use in connection with 7-Eleven branches, you'll notice that the banks also uses branch codes. I would love to have this info on osm if allowed (since it may be internal info to the bank). Sometimes, it can be useful when tracking your payments if somebody ask you to deposit an amount to a particular bank, given only an account number and a name. Some branch-name tend to be very long (eg. Taytay-Manila East Road), compared to a branch code which is normally a 3 or 4 digit numeric. who knows if someday, somebody can find useful search apps for this. But I'm more inclined to use another tag (other than ref) since it's already used on highway (although it's a line, not a node). Can this complicate things when filtering info for existing mobile apps (eg. unpredictable rendering)? what if we just use branch_code or branch:code (more specific, but longer to type). some may say it has no practical use to majority of the map users, but so is the ICAO (4 letter alphanumeric code for airports) :-) +1 for branch name and +1 for branch codes for all chain establishments I suggest we ask permission from these companies (for the masterlist its periodic updates). It is in their best interest that all their branches become searchable via internet, particularly when mobile using osm maps. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:03 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm planning to import location data of 7-Eleven branches nationwide in the coming weeks. Based on a file that I found on the Internet Archive Wayback machine, the location master containing the name of its branches and location ID's (and other unrelated data)[0] is (presumably) licensed under CC BY 3.0 PH. However, I'm not sure of its current status. It would be best if we send an email to Philippines Seven Corporation regarding this matter. If imported, a typical 7-Eleven branch will have the following tags: name=7-Eleven shop=convenience opening_hours=24/7 branch=(name of branch in the location master) ref=(location ID of branch) source=(to be discussed) [0] http://web.archive.org/web/20100612175639/http://van.7-eleven.com.ph/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] 2012 OSMPH data stats so far
Hi guys, Here's a 3rd quarter update of the basic OSMPH data stats (as of the October 1 Philippine extract). The increase is in comparison to the start of 2012: OSM XML file size: 767 MB(39% increase) # Nodes: 3,921,325(41% increase) # Ways: 392,970(38% increase) # Relations: 2,227(25% increase) Total length of highways*: 119,650 Km (38% increase) * This uses a different metric from the one maning is using. If we extrapolate the growth thus far this year to the end of 2012 here are the expected stats: OSM XML file size: 839 MB # Nodes: 4,301,836 # Ways: 429,206 # Relations: 2,377 Total length of highways: 130,602 Km And the following is a comparison of the increase in amount of data within 2011, and the extrapolated increase in 2012: 2011 2012 (extrapolated) OSM XML file size:+226 MB +289 MB # Nodes: +1,251,032+1,522,044 # Ways:+156,718 +144,944 # Relations: +1,131 +601 Total length of highways: +26,825 Km +43,808 Km Keep it up guys! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's a mid-year update (as of the July 1 Philippine extract). The increase is compared to the start of 2012: OSM XML file size : 709 MB(29% increase) # Nodes: 3,620,124(30% increase) # Ways: 360,949(27% increase) # Relations: 1,971(11% increase) Total length of highways*: 107,469 Km (24% increase) * This uses a different metric from the one maning is using. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some OSMPH data stats as of April 1, 2012 (last Geofabrik extract before the server downtime/migration) compared to the start of 2011 and the start of 2012: Stats as of 2011-01-03*: OSM XML file size : 324 MB # Nodes: 1,528,760 # Ways: 127,544 # Relations: 645 Total length of highways**: 59,969 Km Stats as of 2012-01-02: OSM XML file size : 550 MB(70% increase) # Nodes: 2,779,792(82% increase) # Ways: 284,262(123% increase) # Relations: 1,776(175% increase) Total length of highways**: 86,794 Km (45% increase) Stats as of 2012-04-01 (increase compared to start of 2012): OSM XML file size : 634 MB(15% increase) # Nodes: 3,222,586(16% increase) # Ways: 323,359(14% increase) # Relations: 1,833(3% increase) Total length of highways**: 99,934 Km (15% increase) If we extrapolate the 2012 growth to the end of 2012 we would have the following projected stats: OSM XML file size : 880 MB # Nodes: 4,560,000 # Ways: 440,000 # Relations: 2,000 Total length of highways: 139,000 Km * This is based on maning's stats. ** I think maning and I use different metrics for calculating the length of highways and that is why my figure for April 2012 is less than the 100,000 Km that maning posted recently. In addition, we currently don't account for dual-carriageway highways. So take the kilometer lengths as a rough metric. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Lowering Barrier to Entry
Here are more direct links of the story from the giver and the receiver of the grant money: Receiver: http://mapbox.com/blog/knight-invests-openstreetmap/ Giver: http://www.knightfoundation.org/press-room/press-mention/openstreetmap-gets-first-major-funding-knight-news/ While this is the largest OSM-related donation/grant that I am aware of, some people are a bit disgruntled because the story has been confused by the news writers. Take note that OSM itself (the OSM Foundation or the OSM community at-large) has not received this money. The grant money has been awarded to MapBox, a company that uses OSM data and provides mapping-related services based on OSM data. They were given this grant to develop tools for OSM. But it is not guaranteed that these tools they will be developing will be used by the OSM community. On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: 500k grant to help develop tools to make map editing easier for the masses. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Foundation-grants-575-000-for-new-OpenStreetMap-tools-1715448.html Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph administrator
I guess I can handle it. :) On 9/17/12, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, Im looking for additional list admin. Being list admin doesn't require much effort other than occasional spam cleanups. This is just an insurance to the proverbial getting hit by a bus. :-) Maning Sambale (mobile) -- Sent from my mobile device http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2012 feedback
Hi Mike, On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: 1) Reducing latency for general mapping for as many Filipinos as possible. It looks as though all Philippine mapper's traffic would get routed through a network in or around Metro Manila no matter what. Therefore from a latency point of view alone, and assuming PLDT routing, um, peculiarities, could be resolved then Manila would be the best place to put a server. A close second would be Hong Kong ... and might be better as per Eugene's point. This reason suggests that latency is a big problem for editors in the Philippines. I daresay that latency is not that big a problem when compared to the broadband average speed of household connections in the country. Most households, when they have broadband connections at all, have an average maximum speed of around 1 Mbps. Actual speeds are much less than that. I did a ping to the OSM server from my home and I get around 400ms in terms of latency. But when you're editing in JOSM and downloading plenty of data, and especially if you also download GPS points too, the download and upload of data takes several seconds. And once the data is downloaded, JOSM will spend some time to parse the OSM XML data and to process it for editing, and this depends on the speed of one's computer. Given that kind of editing situation, latency is a small problem and might not be a best target for improvement. (See Amdahl's Law[1].) On the other hand, setting up a server in HK would also serve many Asian OSM communities like Japan and Indonesia. While this does not specifically target the OSMPH community, and might not foster a technical community, serving the Asian OSM communities might be a better reason for the investment than simply trying to solve network latency problems. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Mapquest's default data for the PH is OSM
If anyone is curious, RichardF's talk that was mentioned by maning can be watched on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geq-bCD3zN8 I like Richard's idea of presenting OpenStreetMap as being good enough for an increasing number of things. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:11 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered this today while watching RicahrdF's talk in ICA. Previously, you can access MQ's OSM data via the open.mapquest.com site. Now, when you go too the main mapquest.com site, data for the PH is OSM. This maybe the case for some time already but its news to me today. -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2012 feedback
Hello Mike, Your proposal is actually interesting. However, I am not actually aware of anyone in the OSMPH community who is experienced enough with running and maintaining a server here in the Philippines. The usual strategy I know is that people buy hosting services from data centers in located the United States. Also, I am not familiar with the state of the Internet backbone in the Philippines (PHNET). I'm not 100% sure but I've read of stories where if you want to access a local server in the Philippines, you might sometimes get routed first to the United States depending on which Internet Service Provider you are currently on so having a local server might not actually help with any netowrk latency issues that OSM France's solution hopes to solve. Maybe the people from Enthropia Philippines (who is generously sponsoring the openstreetmap.org.ph website) can provide some input? Regards, Eugene On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:28 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mike, Im glad you met Mario in SOTM2012. Also, congrats on finally getting over with the license change. On to the topic, I think the idea of a server is good if this can help with poor connections, especially if it can be used for disaster mapping efforts. Maybe we can even design our own map style. :-) Anyway, I know very little about servers so I leave it to others here to discuss possibilities and challenges on such a project with osm.fr Maning Sambale (mobile) On Sep 14, 2012 11:24 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Hallo Maning and all and to Mario Baras who was at SOTM 2012 and is on this list. I see from Maning's post to the general talk list that he is already familar with the French http://live.openstreetmap.fr/. Now here is an interesting thing. OSM France have also built and are operating a caching download/proxy upload server for editing. It down loads diffs every minute. JOSM users can re-direct their editors to use it instead of the London server. There is also a way to trick Potlatch into using it. For French and many European users it provides much better response. When you upload, then it sends your edit to London. It has been running for 6 months and appears to work correctly. And then another thing: OpenStreetMap France also have funding to do things. But they cannot spend it in France. Dot, dot, dot. So I asked Christian Quest, If there was interest, could they fund a similar server in the Philippines? and got a very positive response with the caveat that a proposal has to be presented to the funding organisation and they can say yes or no. The proposal could consist of a) server(s), b) travel by OpenStreetMap France to the Philippines to train (perhaps not vital but good to create a working relationship) and c) funding to put it in a high availability data centre. So, any interest? In addition to helping poor connections (comments?), I see it as a way to build up a strong system administration team to complement the mapping community. The Philippine and Japan communities are probably the strongest in Asia right now. I would also suggest that it could be used as a H.O.T server to be used in natural calamities if anyone is interested in getting involved there ... that might also improve the chances of funding. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] iOS 6 using osm and tomtom?
Hmmm... I know that Apple uses OSM in the maps feature of the iPhoto app, but that is only as a basemap on which to display geocoded photos. I'm not sure if Apple uses OSM in the actual routable Maps app. For that they are primarily using TomTom data. On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: i'm eagerly awaiting the release of iOS 6 to check the map feature reportedly using tomtom and osm data. i only need routing, offline maps, and 1s logging. hope they're all there i will hold of again purchase of my garmin replacement ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Booth/exhibit ideas for PhilGEOS symposium
The following would be nice: - Updated OSM banners - Updated and more professional-looking brochures/leaflets/pamphlets - A laptop continuously running OSM-related videos/animations (like ITO's A Year of Edits) - Garmin devices showing demo routing Anyone willing to pitch in the funds so we can produce the banner and the leaflets? :) On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, OSGeo PH and OSM PH will have an exhibition booth during the PhilGEOS Symposium at UP Diliman on November 23-24, 2012. Please share ideas on what we can setup in the booth. http://philgeos2012.wordpress.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] New bing imagery Batch 9
Just a correction: The following two places have imagery from Bing Batch 8 since June. Calayan Islands and northern islands and the rest of Cagayan: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#19.31175,121.468749,14 Babuyan Island: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#19.519872,121.93335,14 The rest seem to be recent. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] New bing imagery Batch 9
Finally, we have satellite imagery of the Batangas Racing Circuit, home of the F3 in the Philippines! http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#13.821328,121.276407,17 I've been waiting for Google to get imagery in this area. It seems Bing is now first and now we can trace it into OpenStreetMap too! :D On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:11 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: West of Iloilo: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#10.719309,122.27972,14 Negros: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#9.822488,122.642354,14 http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#9.776308,122.912378,14 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:06 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Lobo Batangas down to Mindoro: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#13.669798,121.235632,14 Corregidor to Orion: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#14.384323,120.582654,15 Mountains east of Bangar?: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#16.822493,120.484099,14 Bontoc: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#17.091644,120.977035,16 Apayao: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#17.985713,120.94295,14 Calayan Islands and northern islands and the rest of Cagayan: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#19.31175,121.468749,14 Babuyan Island: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#19.519872,121.93335,14 East of Ilagan, Isabela: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#17.075779,122.099432,14 Gumaca, Quezon going south to Marinduque: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#13.896201,122.083811,14 Mercedes?: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#14.026975,123.017735,14 Ticao: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#12.622791,123.649449,14 Palawan: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#9.922987,118.631615,14 http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#8.957441,118.024449,14 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Impasugong, Bukidnon: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#8.37384,124.964547,14 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Found one over Bulacan and Nueva Ecija: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#15.40172,121.007194,11 Perhaps in other areas too, so please check. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Software Freedom Day 2012
Hello all, Software Freedom Day is already on this coming Saturday. OSMPH has a lecture/presentation about OpenStreetMap which is part of the FOSS for Open Content and Visualization track. The schedule is from 1:00pm to 1:40pm at the UP Diliman College of Education Laboratory. Map of the College of Education (Benitez Hall): http://osm.org/go/4zhTlYRxw--?m Hope you guys can come, help out, and meet other OSMPH people. :) On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: This year's Software Freedom Day organized by Computer Professionals Union will be on September 15, 2012 at the University of the Philippines Diliman. OSM-PH will have a speaking slot in the breakout session. I invite OSMers to join. More details in teh SFD facebook page [0]. [0] https://www.facebook.com/SFDPhils ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM live streaming
Hi guys, If you want to watch the proceedings of the State of the Map conference happening in Tokyo, check out the email below. :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de Date: Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:59 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM live streaming To: Talk OSM t...@openstreetmap.org In a few minutes the SotM 2012 in Tokyo will start: http://www.stateofthemap.org/ As every year for the majority of mappers it's not possible to attend the yearly OpenStreetMap conference. But for everyone, who couldn't come to Tokyo we offer to watch the talks and presentations live on Ustream. There are two channels: Main: Convention Hall (2F) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sotm-main Second: Conference Room (3F) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sotm-second For the program schedule take a look here: http://www.stateofthemap.org/schedule/ (Tokyo is 9 hours ahead of UTC) Slides and other material will be collected and published in the conference Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2012/Thursday http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2012/Friday http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2012/Saturday Daniel -- Georepublic UG Georepublic Japan eMail: daniel.ka...@georepublic.de Web: http://georepublic.de ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Invitation and Call for Abstracts: PhilGEOS 2012 - 1st Philippine Geomatics Symposium (Nov. 22-23, 2012)
Hi guys, I have just submitted an abstract for an oral presentation to PhilGEOS 2012. If you're curious, I've pasted below the full text of the abstract that I submitted. Hopefully it will be accepted and so that we can present OSM to this conference. :) -- OpenStreetMap (http://openstreetmap.org) is a worldwide crowd-sourced mapping project that aims to create the world’s most complete, up-to-date, and accurate general-purpose digital map of the world that is also freely licensed. OpenStreetMap is bringing into mapping the same volunteerism and free/open ethos that has made Wikipedia the world’s largest and most popular encyclopedia. OpenStreetMap users contribute to the global dataset by collecting traces using GPS loggers, by tracing from geo-rectified satellite imagery, and by inputting attributes like street names and routing restrictions based on on-the-field survey and local knowledge. The data is stored in a database using a simplified topological data model consisting of nodes, ways, and relations, and attribute data is recorded using a flexible tagging system with an ontology determined through user consensus. OpenStreetMap was started in 2004 in the United Kingdom and was borne out of the frustration of ordinary citizens in obtaining map data that can be freely used by any person for any purpose. From then on, OpenStreetMap grew to become a worldwide project with thousands of users editing the map database every month. OpenStreetMap’s data, maps, and technologies are used by many entities, from government agencies like the White House, U.S. Geological Survey, and the TriMet office of Portland, Oregon, to commercial companies like Apple, foursquare, and Yahoo!’s Flickr. In the field of humanitarian and disaster relief, OpenStreetMap has provided the maps that aided relief workers in the wake of the 2010 Haiti earthquake, and OpenStreetMap has mapped Kibera, Nairobi, one of Africa’s largest slum areas. However, given the crowd-sourced characteristic of OpenStreetMap, can the project’s data be trusted to be accurate? While most of the world in OpenStreetMap is incomplete or inaccurate, the amateur nature of OpenStreetMap is not a hindrance to the project’s long-term growth in terms of completeness and quality. A 2009 study at the University College London has concluded that “[OpenStreetMap] quality [in England] is beyond good enough [and] can be used for a wide range of activities.” A 2010 University of Heidelberg study that compared OpenStreetMap data in Germany with Tele Atlas concluded that “the amount of data collected by volunteers in Germany has been tremendous and will cause OpenStreetMap to pass Tele Atlas in the near future in the total length of all street network data.” In the Philippines, OpenStreetMap is very active with Filipinos and foreigners helping to map the country’s 7,000-plus islands. Compared to countries like the United Kingdom and Germany, where OpenStreetMap is already quite mature, the Philippines still has a very large room for growth. Nevertheless, users in the Philippines have already mapped more than 100,000 kilometers of roads, added the outlines of more than 50,000 buildings, and marked the locations of more than 50,000 points of interest (POIs). The growth and potential of OpenStreetMap is such that it cannot be ignored by practitioners in the geomatics field. GIS professionals and geographers should learn to be familiar with OpenStreetMap and to even consider becoming contributors, helping to build the world’s largest geographical database. -- On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I support OSMPH giving a presentation and/or having a booth in the conference. For the talk, I guess something like OpenStreetMap in the Philippines: Why Crowdsourced Mapping is Here to Stay (just a suggestion!) It would be better if we have an idea of the makeup of the target audience so we would know what would appeal to them most about OSM. The deadline for submitting an abstract is on August 31, so we'd better work up something fast! :) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Might be of interest. I'm planning to setup a booth for OSGeo PH and OSM. Anyone interested to present something? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] status of remapping
Ian Lopez did a lot of the post-redaction mapping in San Juan, Angeles, and Parañaque. There are still lots to be done however. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, Are there people doing remapping efforts [0]? Any updates so far? I did a couple today in San Juan, MM mostly re-connecting the major roads and trying to remember some of my work 5 years ago. AFAIK, San Juan has a lot of oneway roads. I didn't add any way restrictions because my memory is flakey these days. I'm asking because: 1. I lost track of recent OSM-PH mapping development the past months; 2. I want to update my OSM PostGIS db. [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/remapping -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines - anyone in Mindanao for training?
Hi Clara, Are there any updates on this? Doc Sam has already expressed interest in joining. Also, do you already have any OSM-related training materials or would you still need some? Eugene On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Clara Straimer clara.v.strai...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am currently working with the German Red Cross and hoping to put on a mapping training by End of August, beginning of September with the Philippine Red Cross in Iligan City and Cagayan de Oro City. Is anyone from your team based in Mindanao or would anyone of you like to present OSM initatives in the Philippines via skype? Just a short intro to OSM - the training is for people with no prior mapping experience but I would like to offer as many different inputs as possible ;) With best wishes, Clara Straimer -- Clara Straimer German Red Cross c/o Philippine Red Cross Bonifacio Drive, Port area P.O. Box 280 2803 Manila Mobile: +63 916 241 1607 E-mail: clara.v.strai...@gmail.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Happy 8th Birthday OSM
OK. Let's do this! WHAT: OpenStreetMap 8th Birthday Meetup WHEN: August 21 (Tuesday) 2:00 - 6:00pm WHERE: McDonald's Libis along C-5 Northbound (Twister Fries!!!) Map: http://osm.org/go/4zhSkr0Mc--?m How: 1. From Ortigas Center, you can take a jeep at Robinsons Galleria going towards Rosario/Cainta. Get down at C-5 (IPI) and take a jeep going to Cubao. Get down at McDonald's 2. From Cubao, take a jeep going to Rosario/Cainta. After passing Eastwood get down across Shopwise then cross the street. McDonald's will be to the right. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Game! Aug 21. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: We could just have a simple meet-up, share an OSM cake and talk about mapping and maybe even share skills and knowledge about mapping, navigation gadgets and other stuff. I prefer we have a meetup on Aug 21. :) On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:05 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: This Saturday Aug 18 is OSM's 8th birthday celebration. Any ideas of celebrating (other than doing some mapping of course :))? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_8th_Anniversary_Birthday_party -- cheers, maning -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Invitation and Call for Abstracts: PhilGEOS 2012 - 1st Philippine Geomatics Symposium (Nov. 22-23, 2012)
I support OSMPH giving a presentation and/or having a booth in the conference. For the talk, I guess something like OpenStreetMap in the Philippines: Why Crowdsourced Mapping is Here to Stay (just a suggestion!) It would be better if we have an idea of the makeup of the target audience so we would know what would appeal to them most about OSM. The deadline for submitting an abstract is on August 31, so we'd better work up something fast! :) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Might be of interest. I'm planning to setup a booth for OSGeo PH and OSM. Anyone interested to present something? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] V.A. Rufino in Makati to become two-way on September 1, 2012
I was actually asking more about how to handle information that will be applied in the future. The removal of the one-way restriction will happen on September 1. How do we keep track of this information such that we don't forget and can apply the changes as soon as the expected date arrives? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:22 AM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: highway=secondary name=V. A. Rufino oneway=no parking:lane:both=no_parking [1] [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - Blog: http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ OpenStreetMap/Twitter: ianlopez1115 Facebook: ian.lopez From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:36 AM Subject: [talk-ph] V.A. Rufino in Makati to become two-way on September 1, 2012 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=160789627391878 Posting this for mental note. BTW, there's actually no established workflow for handling this kind of information in OSM. Any suggestions? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Leaflet 0.4 released
For those of you who are using the Leaflet JavaScript API for creating slippy web maps, Leaflet 0.4 has been released 2 weeks ago: http://leaflet.cloudmade.com/2012/07/30/leaflet-0-4-released.html ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] CamSur Watersports Complex in OSM
Hi guys, Because of the June 2012 Bing imagery update, The CamSur Watersports Complex in Pili, Camarines Sur is now a little bit more detailed in OSM: http://osm.org/go/4y_ZMheA Ian, Wayne, and maning had already traced some roads, lakes, pools, and buildings in the area, but lots more details of this tourist spot can still be added especially by mappers who have already visited this attraction. Google doesn't have satellite imagery of this area so you can just simply browse Bing Maps if you want to check out the CWC from up above. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM Buildings - Interactive
This was mentioned last week: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ph@openstreetmap.org/msg04026.html :) On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you seen this? http://flyjs.com/buildings/ OSM Buildings is using Canvas 2D operations only. This is not WebGL. Overall size of the library is 3.6k. Noli ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL Produced Work maps in Wikipedia
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If it were any different, you could team up with a co-publisher, publish your ODbL Produced Works to him and he forwards them to the world without you ever having to release anything. It would be a loophole that demands quick fixing ;) Is this a valid (i.e., legal) interpretation of the word publish? My interpretation is that you make a work available to the general public for it to be considered as publishing (hence the etymology of publish which means to make public). So, conveying your work to a another entity and not the general public does not count as publishing. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd:[OSM-talk] Redaction underway
Hi guys, By the time you read this, the redaction bot would have already finished processing the Philippines: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php?zoom=6lat=12.42027lon=121.5896layers=B00FTTFF Please check your areas for deleted data and try to recreate them from your personal sources. Some hotspots are Angeles, San Juan, Parañaque, Kalibo, and Bacolod. Thanks to all the effort of the remappers, less than 1% of all data from the Philippines would need to be deleted. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: And here's the areas being handled by the bot currently: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: As a reference, we have ~ 118,376.385 KM of roads as of yesterday. According to the ODBL stats we should be losing roughly less than 0.7%. On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: And if you're curious at what the Redaction Bot is doing, here is the account editing history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMF%20Redaction%20Account/edits On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Fyi. -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: Jul 11, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Redaction underway To: talk...@openstreetmap.org, annou...@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org [posted to talk-ie@, announce@ and talk@; follow-ups to talk@ unless Ireland-specific] Hello all, The redaction process is now underway with Ireland as planned. Further updates will be posted to relevant lists as and when each phase starts and ends: - to talk-ie@ and talk-gb@ when Ireland ends and Great Britain begins - to talk-gb@ and talk@ when Great Britain ends and Western Europe/Belarus begins - to talk@, talk-us@ and talk-ca@ when Belarus ends and North America begins - to talk-us@, talk-ca@ and talk-au@ when North America ends and Australia begins - to talk-au@ and talk@ when Australia ends and the rest of the world begins - to talk@ when the rest of the world ends ...and, of course, if anything interrupts the progress of the redaction more than briefly. All updates will be cc:ed to announce@. cheers Richard ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Some new online map stuff
Hi guys, Here are a few interesting OSM-related online map stuff that appeared so far this July. 1. MapBox and foursquare team up to help map cities in OSM. Earlier this year, foursquare switched from using Google Maps API to MapBox and using OSM data. Consequently, some people from foursquare teamed up with people from MapBox to map lots of cities in OSM. Here's a blog post talking about their progress: http://blog.foursquare.com/2012/07/10/making-a-better-map-four-months-of-openstreetmap-with-mapbox-foursquare/ The blog post also points to this cool visualization of the OSM data (kinda like my node density map) versus the check ins that have been registered in foursquare: http://mapbox.com/foursquare-checkins/ It's interesting to see the correlation between population density, OSM data density, and foursquare activity in this way. :) 2. MapBox releases terrain layer MapBox has not only been helping out foursquare, they have also been busy improving their service. A recent development they have added is to roll out a nice terrain layer: http://mapbox.com/blog/mapbox-streets-terrain/ Here's an example map using the layer: http://tiles.mapbox.com/examples/map/map-4l7djmvo Now I'm waiting for Stamen Design to roll out worldwide their own terrain layer (which is currently only rendered for the US): http://maps.stamen.com/terrain/ 3. Skobbler releases a nifty OSM web map Skobbler, which creates mobile GPS routing apps, has released a web map that uses OSM data. The web map has quite a lot of features such as search, drag-and-drop routing, and with their own cartography: http://maps.skobbler.com/ The neat feature that I like is the POI layers. Zoom into a particular area of interest and you can click on POI icons to display on the map the POIs that are visible in the current map view. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Some new online map stuff
Here's another one: 3D OSM buildings using JavaScript Canvas (no WebGL). The demo only covers Berlin though: http://flyjs.com/buildings/ The effect is very similar to the WebGL-enabled version of Google Maps for those who are familiar with it. Except that tilting is not possible. Impressive nonetheless. :) On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here are a few interesting OSM-related online map stuff that appeared so far this July. 1. MapBox and foursquare team up to help map cities in OSM. Earlier this year, foursquare switched from using Google Maps API to MapBox and using OSM data. Consequently, some people from foursquare teamed up with people from MapBox to map lots of cities in OSM. Here's a blog post talking about their progress: http://blog.foursquare.com/2012/07/10/making-a-better-map-four-months-of-openstreetmap-with-mapbox-foursquare/ The blog post also points to this cool visualization of the OSM data (kinda like my node density map) versus the check ins that have been registered in foursquare: http://mapbox.com/foursquare-checkins/ It's interesting to see the correlation between population density, OSM data density, and foursquare activity in this way. :) 2. MapBox releases terrain layer MapBox has not only been helping out foursquare, they have also been busy improving their service. A recent development they have added is to roll out a nice terrain layer: http://mapbox.com/blog/mapbox-streets-terrain/ Here's an example map using the layer: http://tiles.mapbox.com/examples/map/map-4l7djmvo Now I'm waiting for Stamen Design to roll out worldwide their own terrain layer (which is currently only rendered for the US): http://maps.stamen.com/terrain/ 3. Skobbler releases a nifty OSM web map Skobbler, which creates mobile GPS routing apps, has released a web map that uses OSM data. The web map has quite a lot of features such as search, drag-and-drop routing, and with their own cartography: http://maps.skobbler.com/ The neat feature that I like is the POI layers. Zoom into a particular area of interest and you can click on POI icons to display on the map the POIs that are visible in the current map view. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node density visualization
Hi guys, Here's a mid-year follow-up to the node density visualization. Here's the density increase from the last time (June 3) to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/52/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-06-03_to_2012-07-01.png The new Bing imagery in June has resulted in increased data in Catanduanes, Metro Naga, Antique, Dumaguete, Butuan, and Tagbilaran. The new Orbview-3 imagery on the other hand resulted in increased data in Palawan, Romblon, and Antique. Here's the density increase from the start of the year to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-07-01.png And here's the node density map itself as of July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/80/Philippines_node_density_2012-07-01.png Compare to the one from the start of the year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Eugene On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I made a follow-up to the node density visualization I shared back in March. This time, the map shows the node increase compared to the data of the original map. Similar to before, brighter pixels represent areas with higher node count increases. Gray pixels show the original data as a baseline. You can view it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-06-03.png For comparison here's the original map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Take note that this is not a map of editing activity! It only merely shows node density increases. (So if someone deleted a node in an area and another one created a node, there will be no change in the node counts.) But this visualization does somewhat indicate where new data is being added. It's nice to see that most parts of the Philippines have seen an increase in data. You can see the obvious effect of the new Bing imagery that was released back in February as bright rectangular areas. Nice work everyone! Let's keep it up! :-) Eugene On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Correction, that should be 0.01°, not 0.1°. :-) On 2/25/12, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a visualization showing the node density of OSM data in the Philippines taken from the 2012-01-02 Geofabrik extract. Each pixel represents a 0.1°×0.1° degree square or approximately 1 square kilometer. Brighter pixels represent areas with higher node counts. View it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png The edges of available satellite imagery at that time is quite visible in some areas like Pangasinan, Cebu, Bukidnon, and Davao del Sur. As expected, brighter areas are places where there is a large amount of editing and with a large population. By the way, can you guess which place has the densest concentration of nodes (the only purely white pixel in the image)? It's in Naga City and this is due to the Naga City import. The second densest location is in Marikina, and this is thanks to maning's efforts in mapping all of the buildings in his adopted city. :-) Eugene -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node density visualization
Oops. Fixed a link Hi guys, Here's a mid-year follow-up to the node density visualization. Here's the density increase from the last time (June 3) to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/52/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-06-03_to_2012-07-01.png The new Bing imagery in June has resulted in increased data in Catanduanes, Metro Naga, Antique, Dumaguete, Butuan, and Tagbilaran. The new Orbview-3 imagery on the other hand resulted in increased data in Palawan, Romblon, and Antique. Here's the density increase from the start of the year to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/3/36/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-07-01.png And here's the node density map itself as of July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/80/Philippines_node_density_2012-07-01.png Compare to the one from the start of the year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Eugene On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's a mid-year follow-up to the node density visualization. Here's the density increase from the last time (June 3) to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/52/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-06-03_to_2012-07-01.png The new Bing imagery in June has resulted in increased data in Catanduanes, Metro Naga, Antique, Dumaguete, Butuan, and Tagbilaran. The new Orbview-3 imagery on the other hand resulted in increased data in Palawan, Romblon, and Antique. Here's the density increase from the start of the year to July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-07-01.png And here's the node density map itself as of July 1: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/80/Philippines_node_density_2012-07-01.png Compare to the one from the start of the year: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Eugene On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I made a follow-up to the node density visualization I shared back in March. This time, the map shows the node increase compared to the data of the original map. Similar to before, brighter pixels represent areas with higher node count increases. Gray pixels show the original data as a baseline. You can view it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-06-03.png For comparison here's the original map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Take note that this is not a map of editing activity! It only merely shows node density increases. (So if someone deleted a node in an area and another one created a node, there will be no change in the node counts.) But this visualization does somewhat indicate where new data is being added. It's nice to see that most parts of the Philippines have seen an increase in data. You can see the obvious effect of the new Bing imagery that was released back in February as bright rectangular areas. Nice work everyone! Let's keep it up! :-) Eugene On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Correction, that should be 0.01°, not 0.1°. :-) On 2/25/12, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a visualization showing the node density of OSM data in the Philippines taken from the 2012-01-02 Geofabrik extract. Each pixel represents a 0.1°×0.1° degree square or approximately 1 square kilometer. Brighter pixels represent areas with higher node counts. View it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png The edges of available satellite imagery at that time is quite visible in some areas like Pangasinan, Cebu, Bukidnon, and Davao del Sur. As expected, brighter areas are places where there is a large amount of editing and with a large population. By the way, can you guess which place has the densest concentration of nodes (the only purely white pixel in the image)? It's in Naga City and this is due to the Naga City import. The second densest location is in Marikina, and this is thanks to maning's efforts in mapping all of the buildings in his adopted city. :-) Eugene -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd:[OSM-talk] Redaction underway
And here's the areas being handled by the bot currently: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: As a reference, we have ~ 118,376.385 KM of roads as of yesterday. According to the ODBL stats we should be losing roughly less than 0.7%. On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: And if you're curious at what the Redaction Bot is doing, here is the account editing history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMF%20Redaction%20Account/edits On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Fyi. -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: Jul 11, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Redaction underway To: talk...@openstreetmap.org, annou...@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org [posted to talk-ie@, announce@ and talk@; follow-ups to talk@ unless Ireland-specific] Hello all, The redaction process is now underway with Ireland as planned. Further updates will be posted to relevant lists as and when each phase starts and ends: - to talk-ie@ and talk-gb@ when Ireland ends and Great Britain begins - to talk-gb@ and talk@ when Great Britain ends and Western Europe/Belarus begins - to talk@, talk-us@ and talk-ca@ when Belarus ends and North America begins - to talk-us@, talk-ca@ and talk-au@ when North America ends and Australia begins - to talk-au@ and talk@ when Australia ends and the rest of the world begins - to talk@ when the rest of the world ends ...and, of course, if anything interrupts the progress of the redaction more than briefly. All updates will be cc:ed to announce@. cheers Richard ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd:[OSM-talk] Redaction underway
And if you're curious at what the Redaction Bot is doing, here is the account editing history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMF%20Redaction%20Account/edits On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Fyi. -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: Jul 11, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Redaction underway To: talk...@openstreetmap.org, annou...@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org [posted to talk-ie@, announce@ and talk@; follow-ups to talk@ unless Ireland-specific] Hello all, The redaction process is now underway with Ireland as planned. Further updates will be posted to relevant lists as and when each phase starts and ends: - to talk-ie@ and talk-gb@ when Ireland ends and Great Britain begins - to talk-gb@ and talk@ when Great Britain ends and Western Europe/Belarus begins - to talk@, talk-us@ and talk-ca@ when Belarus ends and North America begins - to talk-us@, talk-ca@ and talk-au@ when North America ends and Australia begins - to talk-au@ and talk@ when Australia ends and the rest of the world begins - to talk@ when the rest of the world ends ...and, of course, if anything interrupts the progress of the redaction more than briefly. All updates will be cc:ed to announce@. cheers Richard ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] R.A. 10170: Quezon City now has 6 districts
R.A. 10170 http://www.gov.ph/2012/07/02/republic-act-no-10170/, which was signed into law on July 2, 2012, has split QC's large 2nd district (mainly Novaliches area) into 3 bringing the number of QC's districts to 6. These six districts now comprise QC's six legislative districts as well as the 6 Sangguniang Panlungsod districts. Thus, QC will have 6 House Representatives and 36 city council members (6 per district) starting from the 2013 National Elections. This reapportionment should have been done a long time ago. QC's population of about 2.7 million (bigger than most provinces) actually entitles it to around 10 districts. For the geeky details, you can check this Wikipedia article section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_House_of_Representatives#Redistricting I guess it's time to redraw the admin boundaries in OSM. QC is currently the only city in OSM who has the complete district boundaries (at least before this law was passed): http://www.itoworld.com/map/2#fullscreenlat=14.680744275573186lon=121.06097641093692zoom=12 District I - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1693446 District II - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1789796 District III - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1553880 District IV - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1530604 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Map Exhibition.
This exhibit was already mentioned by Rally last week: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ph@openstreetmap.org/msg03992.html Anyway, I visited the exhibit last Saturday to attend the first lecture and bumped into Rally too. We both saw the first lecture given by French expat Christian Perez who has visited all 80 provinces of the Philippines. His lecture was titled The Mapping of Philippine Provinces but actually, a better title would have been The Evolution of Philippine Provinces as Seen Through Maps. One thing I've learned from the lecture is that the Agusan-Davao border seems to have been designated by the Americans to sit on the 8th latitude. I will also be going to the second lecture later this morning. Maybe I'll bump into some of you guys there? :) Apart from the lectures, the exhibit itself is very interesting. If you're at all interested in Philippine maps and/or Philippine history, the exhibit would be a pleasure to see. I was actually amazed that an 1875 Encyclopedia Britannica map depicted the Philippines almost perfectly, which is weird since some Spanish maps from the same period had major inaccuracies. And if you're interested in the Scarborough Shoal issue with China, you can see how some maps from the 18th Century and onwards have shown this area. One nice tidbit is that some of the earlier maps actually depicted two separate island groups, one for Scarborough and another for Isla de Panacot/Baja de Masinloc. Later maps have merged these two together as well as removed the phantom islands north and south of them (the northern named Bajo de Bolinao). On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Exhibit at the Metropolitan museum this month. I suspect some of the members of this group might have to restrain their natural impulse to correct mapping errors. ;-) Jim - Three Hundred Years of Philippine Maps 1598-1898 JUN. 27 - JUL. 31, 2012 @ Tall Galleries A unique exhibition of 134 original Philippine Maps dating from the Spanish colonial period to early American time. The show features maps of Petrus Kaerius, J.N. Metellus, Wytfliet, Bertius and Fr. Pedro Murillo Velarde's 18th century Mapa de las Islas Filipinas. Lectures will be held in relation to the cartography of provinces in the Philippines and the beauty and significance of mapping in contemporary art. The exhibition is in celebration of Philippine-Spanish Friendship Day and in partnership with Philippine Map Collectors Society (PHIMCOS) and Embassy of Spain in the Philippines. --- Exploring the world of map-making can be overwhelming. Join the art of cartography lecture series at the Met Museum. Featuring: JUNE 30 The Mapping of Philippine Provinces by Christian Perez JULY 7 Power, Beauty and Knowledge in Philippine Antique Maps by Leo Garcia JULY 14 From Night Stars to Rocky Shoals by John Silva JULY 21 Biography of Fr. Pedro Murillo Velarde by Dr. Benito Legarda Jr. JULY 28 Cartography in Art (Maps of the Artistic Imagination) by Florentina Colayco -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Pirate Map!
Very cool! http://tiles.mapbox.com/aj/map/Sketchy2 This was created by someone at MapBox to show off new features in the Mapnik rendering tool. The map only goes to zoom level 6 though, and I think it uses only the public domain Natural Earth dataset and no OSM data. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] Three Hundred Years of Philippine Maps 1598-1898 (Metropolitan Museum)
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[talk-ph] The future home of the OSMPH Garmin GPS map
Hi guys, Here's a preview of the future location of the OSMPH Garmin GPS map: http://openstreetmap.org.ph/garmin/ This web page is where users can download the latest Garmin map, including installers for Mac RoadTrip, and directly installable gmapsupp.img files (plus the mirror links). I also would like to add here links to tutorials, tips and tricks, and a way to send bug reports. For the hardcore users and developers, we can provide links to mkgmap (the software we use to create the Garmin map) and the scripts and styles we use to create the map (currently in Github: https://github.com/maning/osmphgps ). Of course we will encourage users to voluntarily contribute too. Hopefully we can provide easier ways to contribute such as an upload form for Garmin GDB files. Basically, we want this page to be the one-stop shop for the OSMPH Garmin map. So what do you guys think? Comments and suggestions are welcome. :-) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] New bing imagery 3rd Q 2012
Here's Bing's official announcement of the recent new imagery: http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2012/06/25/released-our-largest-satellite-publication.aspx Today we’re thrilled to announce the publication of our largest satellite release to date. In fact, this release is larger than all of our past Aerial releases combined! The latest Aerial release includes new Satellite imagery as well as Global Ortho photography. Both releases total 165 terabytes of new data live on Bing Maps. Prior to this, our existing Aerial footprint was 129 terabytes total. Does anybody have Silverlight installed? It would be really swell if you can check out the Bing Maps World Tour http://www.bing.com/maps/?appid=10493mkt=en-us and confirm if the new imagery matches the ones we have found: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4208768702467set=p.4208768702467type=1 :) On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:07 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Soutwest coats of Panay Island. On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:03 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a short list (confirmed by IanLopez, Eugene and Maning): Calamba City Butuan City Naga city Tagbilaran City Dumaguete City The Iloilo imagery is a tall strip spanning from the Sibuyan Sea going into Panay (Kalibo was just missed) down to the Sulu Sea passing through southwestern Negros Roxas City Eastern coast of Davao Oriental Dinagat Islands to western Homonhon Bangued, Abra Northeastern Aurora Cebu City has updated imagery Metro Manila has updated imagery (looks like mid to late 2011 based on BGC) Catanduanes Guimaras North East Pangasinan Nueva Vizcaya Benguet My current version of JOSM does not load the new imagery in some areas but Potlatch2 don't have this problem. Eugene also confirmed this. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Ianlopez announced via facebook that there are new imagery updates around Calamba City. I spotted new imagery as well in Butuan City and Naga City. Please check other areas. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] New URL of the Imagery Coverage Map and the June 2012 Bing imagery update
Hi guys, I have moved the location of the OSMPH Imagery Coverage Map from my website: OLD: http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/imagery_coverage/ To the OSMPH official website: NEW: http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ (I have also set an HTTP redirect so that if you use the old URL, you will be redirected to the new location.) The Map itself has also been updated with all the known new Bing imagery added this month (June 2012) as mentioned in another thread. You can view a highlight of what has been updated here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4208768702467 (Or you can use the Imagery Coverage Map and then unselect everything but the Bing Batch 8 group. :-D) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
I had the same problem in my instance of JOSM. What I did was to delete all cache directories in my .josm directory and it seemed to work. I guess I deleted the bing.attribution.xml file in the process. :) On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Jonas Häggqvist ras...@rasher.dk wrote: On 13-06-2012 02:39, maning sambale wrote: As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the same area. Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir: %APPDATA%\JOSM\cache\bing.attribution.xml on Windows ~/.josm/cache/bing.attribution.xml on Linux This appears to be a JOSM bug, as the attribution file/config should not be cached. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7778 -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] OrbView-3 TMS for the Philippines
Thanks for tracing the outlines. I started tracing them a few days
back but I didn't have enough time to finish it. Saves me some work.
Hehe.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
The OrbView-3 imagery outlines are available in my github fork of
Eugene's imagery coverage map:
http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/
Hover on the layer controller and click the OrbView-3 layer. Note
that while some OrbView-3 is imagery overlaps with Bing and is more
than 5 years old, you can still find a good number of gems to trace
for OSM.
Again, big tanks to jgc for making this imagery available to us.
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
Many thanks jgc! This will surely increase coverage particularly in the
Visayas islands.
On Jun 4, 2012 4:58 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote:
Hi,
A TMS tile service with 233 OrbView-3 images of the Philippines (1 m
resolution, panchromatic images with less than 20% cloud cover, L1Gst
level processed, shot between 2003 and 2007), made freely available by
USGS, is available. It can be useful in some areas where no high
resolution Bing imagery is available.
You can preview the images here:
http://osm.arkemie.org/ousm/philippines/?layers=0B00TFFTF
To use in JOSM, add in your TMS preferences:
tms[19]:http://osm.arkemie.org/cgi-bin/tiles/1.0.0/philippines/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
(To add it, open the WMS/TMS tab in the preferences dialog, click on
+, select the TMS tab, give a layer name and copy the above address in
web address).
To use in Potlatch2, add in custom background:
http://osm.arkemie.org/cgi-bin/tiles/1.0.0/philippines/$z/$x/$y
As with Bing images, it is recommended to check and adjust alignment
with GPS tracks before tracing.
You can see also:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OrbView-3#Available_in_editors
I intend to further enhance the contrast for images that include clouds
later, but I won't have time to do it this week.
Best wishes,
Jean-Guilhem
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[talk-ph] Density of GPS data points in the Philippines
Hi guys, Here's a nice hexbin choropleth map which has been published recently showing where OSM contributors have collected GPS data points: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osmgps.html?zoom=6lat=12.33319lon=121.92847layers=00B0T The major highways, and ro-ro routes are quite obvious in the Philippines. The data points have come from GPS traces submitted by OSM contributors here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces The map was created using the GPS data dump that was made available a few months ago: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/gps/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Possible Scarborough Shoal edit war?
The saga continues... A new, presumably, Chinese user did his first edit: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11792728 The comment on the changeset is (translated using Google): Huangyan Island is Chinese territory On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:52 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: question: should we adopt the tag or just be firm in asserting our claim to panatag shoal and tag it as PH territory? :) Sent from my Nokia 5110, made in Finland! On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:12 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Mike Collinson added the tag is_in:country=disputed_territory when he imported GNS names [0], should we add this (or a modified version) in Scarborough? [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/302105933 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, there's no edit war going on yet, but there's someone from China who did the following changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11769249 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11769301 The first changeset removed the Philippine boundary enclosing the shoal previously set by Ian Lopez, and changed default name of the shoal itself to Chinese: 黄岩岛 (which means Huangyan Island). The second changeset added the following tag: note=菲佣去死!!, which Google translate doesn't seem to do a good job of translating but seems to be an insult to Filipina maids, I think. :-/ Anyway, I've fixed the name tagging of the shoal so that the default name is Scarborough Shoal, which is the neutral international name. The complete name tags are the following: INTERNATIONAL: name:en = Scarborough Shoal alt_name = Scarborough Reef CHINESE: name:en-CN = Huangyan Island name:zh = 黄岩岛 name:zh_pinyin = Huángyán Dǎo PHILIPPINE: name:en-PH = Panatag Shoal alt_name:en-PH = Bajo de Masinloc name:tl = Kulumpol ng Panatag alt_name:tl = Bajo de Masinloc name:es = Bajo de Masinloc VIETNAMESE: name:vi = Bãi cạn Scarborough alt_name:vi = Đảo Hoàng Nham ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node density visualization
Hi guys, I made a follow-up to the node density visualization I shared back in March. This time, the map shows the node increase compared to the data of the original map. Similar to before, brighter pixels represent areas with higher node count increases. Gray pixels show the original data as a baseline. You can view it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/56/Philippines_node_density_increase_from_2012-01-02_to_2012-06-03.png For comparison here's the original map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png Take note that this is not a map of editing activity! It only merely shows node density increases. (So if someone deleted a node in an area and another one created a node, there will be no change in the node counts.) But this visualization does somewhat indicate where new data is being added. It's nice to see that most parts of the Philippines have seen an increase in data. You can see the obvious effect of the new Bing imagery that was released back in February as bright rectangular areas. Nice work everyone! Let's keep it up! :-) Eugene On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Correction, that should be 0.01°, not 0.1°. :-) On 2/25/12, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I created a visualization showing the node density of OSM data in the Philippines taken from the 2012-01-02 Geofabrik extract. Each pixel represents a 0.1°×0.1° degree square or approximately 1 square kilometer. Brighter pixels represent areas with higher node counts. View it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/81/Philippines_node_density_2012-01-02.png The edges of available satellite imagery at that time is quite visible in some areas like Pangasinan, Cebu, Bukidnon, and Davao del Sur. As expected, brighter areas are places where there is a large amount of editing and with a large population. By the way, can you guess which place has the densest concentration of nodes (the only purely white pixel in the image)? It's in Naga City and this is due to the Naga City import. The second densest location is in Marikina, and this is thanks to maning's efforts in mapping all of the buildings in his adopted city. :-) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Possible Scarborough Shoal edit war?
Well, there's no edit war going on yet, but there's someone from China who did the following changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11769249 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11769301 The first changeset removed the Philippine boundary enclosing the shoal previously set by Ian Lopez, and changed default name of the shoal itself to Chinese: 黄岩岛 (which means Huangyan Island). The second changeset added the following tag: note=菲佣去死!!, which Google translate doesn't seem to do a good job of translating but seems to be an insult to Filipina maids, I think. :-/ Anyway, I've fixed the name tagging of the shoal so that the default name is Scarborough Shoal, which is the neutral international name. The complete name tags are the following: INTERNATIONAL: name:en = Scarborough Shoal alt_name = Scarborough Reef CHINESE: name:en-CN = Huangyan Island name:zh = 黄岩岛 name:zh_pinyin = Huángyán Dǎo PHILIPPINE: name:en-PH = Panatag Shoal alt_name:en-PH = Bajo de Masinloc name:tl = Kulumpol ng Panatag alt_name:tl = Bajo de Masinloc name:es = Bajo de Masinloc VIETNAMESE: name:vi = Bãi cạn Scarborough alt_name:vi = Đảo Hoàng Nham ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] It seems TomTom has publicly declared OSM as a threat
Hi guys, I finally found the site where you can browse TomTom/Tele Atlas' map data. Here's the permalink for the Metro Manila area: http://routes.tomtom.com/map/?center=14.560692014744%2C120.91373826586zoom=9map=basic It's quite laughable, really. I think they're still using the public domain VMAP0 dataset. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here's TomTom's recent article criticizing un-pre-moderated crowd-sourced mapping (OSM is not named, but it's quite obvious): http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ Here's a slap down reply by Richard Fairhurst (OSMF Board member): http://www.systemed.net/blog/index.php?post=23 And here's the requisite Slashdot thread: http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/019213/tomtom-flames-openstreetmap As maning said on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/maning.sambale/posts/4174530287009: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” It seems TomTom has left the ignore you stage already. :p -- Note: TomTom bought Tele Atlas in 2008. Tele Atlas is one of the 2 biggest commercial map data providers in the world. The other is Navteq, which was bought by Nokia in 2007. Note 2: As far as I know, Tele Atlas does not have significant data in the Philippines. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] 2.5D buildings in OSM
I discovered that OpenMapSurfer (mentioned on this list back in February: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ph@openstreetmap.org/msg03764.html) also renders 2.5D buildings: San Pablo - http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/?zoom=17lat=14.07012lon=121.32477layers=BFFF Los Banos - http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/?zoom=17lat=14.167lon=121.24226layers=BFFF Enjoy! On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:54 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I was in awe last week at the 2.5D buildings rendered in google maps' droid version. My personal wish is for us to do it in OSM. Of course, ianlopez (as always) did it already: San Pablo - http://latlon.org/buildings?zoom=17lat=14.07012lon=121.32477layers=BT Los Banos - http://latlon.org/buildings?zoom=17lat=14.167lon=121.24226layers=BT -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] speedtest.net using OSM data
This was already noted almost a year ago: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2011-June/003370.html Of course that means that they've been missing an attribution to OSM for quite a long time now. :p On 5/18/12, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Browse the map and you will see similarities to OSM's admin boundaries. http://speedtest.net/ Hope they add the attribution as well. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Garmin vs. Maposaurus
For all of us Garmin users, here is a 2007 Super Bowl commercial from Garmin: http://youtu.be/Kxrj3OQcXJY :-) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Expect more high-resolution satellite imagery in Bing c/o DigitalGlobe
Press release from late March 2012: http://media.digitalglobe.com/press-releases/digitalglobe-providing-broader-content-across-micr-nyse-dgi-0865300 Selected quote: The first agreement more than doubles the volume of high-resolution imagery DigitalGlobe delivers to Microsoft for use in its Bing Maps service. The imagery, delivered on a quarterly basis, will provide refreshed content covering millions of square kilometers of the earth's surface, including up-to-date imagery for the world's highest-density urban areas. Hopefully, this new imagery will still be available for tracing in OSM. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Non- Motorized Transport Forum and Mapping Workshop - 21st of April, 2012
Hi guys, Here are some photos from this event on Facebook (taken by Maning): https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150812503222597.464394.345455082596type=1 Thanks to Maning, Rally, and Wayne for attending this event. ASoG - iBoP Asia - NeMo has also said they plan to hold another mapping workshop in May and this is now mostly dedicated to contributing to OSM. We would like it if more people can join! :) Also, the event last Saturday was aired on GMA News yesterday. Has anybody seen that? (My sister saw the news segment on TV in a bus and said she saw my back. Hehehe.) Eugene On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody, apart from Rally. Maning and Eugene joining this event? On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I'll just give a short background regarding this event. Early this year, OSMPH was invited to help out with the crowd-sourced mapping aspects of the New Mobility Project (“Catalyzing New Mobility in Cities: The Case of Metro Manila”), which is spearheaded by the Ateneo School of Government through their Innovations at the Base of the Pyramid in Southeast Asia (iBoP Asia) initiative. They had a project launch last January 31 and February 1 where the target area to be used as an example was North Triangle in Quezon City. Rally attended that event and we were all pleasantly surprised to see OSM used as the map. You can check the write-up of that event from Smart here: http://www.um-smart.org/blog/2012/02/08/smart-e-news-february-2012/ Some photos from that event showing OSM maps are the following: http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping6.jpg http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping5.jpg http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping.jpg The project had another event on March 13 and the target area was the Ortigas CBD. So this April 21 event is just another one in a series of events for the New Mobility Project (NeMo). This time the target is non-motorized transport (i.e., cycling) and the groups invited are cycling advocates like the Firefly Brigade. I hope many of you can come. :) Eugene On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Corrected link to invitation: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-2WZQ1DwK_xdnhYQTljWVJfLTQ On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:24 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, We are invited to facilitate a mapping workshop for non-motorized transport. The goal of this workshop is to help various organization get started with OSM in mappping non-motorized transport facilities in Metro Manila such as: - Cycling lanes, routes, parking, and related facilities - Bike shops and service centers - Points where cyclists gather on weekends 10 slots are reserved for any OSMer who can assist the group. Invitation letter and other details here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=16Rf4JkTxB1eETc0kfurlG0W6y66f4XD2o21mpOvOMxEbNtS1NGFUq_Y2DCwS Maning, Rally and Eugene will lead the workshop but any extra hands is most welcome. If you are interested, please inform us. We may need to meet in the morning to discuss distribution of tasks. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] New editors
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 4/19/2012 3:50 AM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Mike Nnice...@att.net wrote: ... But one newbie deleted about 300 streets, seemingly for a wedding-related event map :-( ... I couldn't help laughing, that's actually pretty funny. Did you contact the user? Yes, I sent a message, but got no reply. Perhaps they were too embarrassed, so the revert will be initiated. It would be funny to get the printed wedding invitation, containing just the remaining major streets! This kind of wedding map edit actually happened to my country in 2010. :-) http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-June/002314.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-dev] New version of MapOSMatic, a city map rendering service
A better MapOSMatic has been released! You can use this online service to create poster/paper/book maps of your favorite areas. :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Thomas Petazzoni thomas.petazz...@enix.org Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:58 PM Subject: [OSM-dev] New version of MapOSMatic, a city map rendering service To: d...@openstreetmap.org Cc: cont...@maposmatic.org Hello, In September 2009, we launched MapOSMatic (http://www.maposmatic.org), a free web service that allows to render city maps on-demand based on OpenStreetMap data. Those city maps, divided into squares, are associated with a street index, making the process of locating a street on the map easier. We are proud to announce today the launch of a new version of MapOSMatic, which is the result of significant development efforts. Amongst the new features: * The rendering of poster maps is now done on large standard paper formats (A3, A2, A1, etc.), automatically chosen depending on the geographical size of the city, instead of arbitrarily-sized papers that were hard to print. The end result is close to commercial folded maps; * The ability to render multi-page maps, where the map and street index are split into several pages, for easier printing on regular paper formats (A5, A4, US Letter). Those multi-page maps are similar to commercial city booklets; * The availability of several rendering styles. For now, we provide the standard OpenStreetMap.org style, several styles provided by MapQuest, and a custom style more suitable for printing. In the future, we expect to extend those styles, or even to let users provide their own styles. Do not hesitate to contact us about custom styles; * Improvements in the selection of cities: in the previous versions, we were limited to OpenStreetMap areas of a certain administrative level; * And many, many other smaller features and improvements: quality of the renderings, better user interface to render maps, last OSM database update date printed on the map, etc. MapOSMatic is completely free software, distributed under the terms of the Affero General Public License v3. The project is available through Git repositories, has a mailing-list and an IRC channel. For details, see our About page (http://www.maposmatic.org/about), our wiki (http://wiki.maposmatic.org) and the Savannah project page (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/maposmatic/). In addition to the launch of this new version, we are also starting a donation campaign. The project is completely developed and maintained by volunteers, but we need funding to cover hardware costs and transportations costs to organize the developer meetings during which MapOSMatic improvements are implemented (see our blog at http://news.maposmatic.org). If you appreciate MapOSMatic, do not hesitate to help us by donating with PayPal on http://www.maposmatic.org/donate. Best regards, Thomas Petazzoni -- Thomas Petazzoni http://thomas.enix.org MapOSMatic http://www.maposmatic.org Logiciels Libres à Toulouse http://www.toulibre.org Embedded Linux http://www.free-electrons.com ___ dev mailing list d...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] carNAVi gives a sort of shout-out to OSM
carNAVi is a local manufacturer of GPS navigation devices. It's known that they use OSM polygon data in their maps: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ph@openstreetmap.org/msg03552.html Well, OSM was mentioned in their April 2012 newsletter: http://www.car-navi.ph/2012/04-news/ It appears that while the road data in the Philippines is their own, they seem to use OSM for maps of other countries. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Non- Motorized Transport Forum and Mapping Workshop - 21st of April, 2012
Hi guys, I'll just give a short background regarding this event. Early this year, OSMPH was invited to help out with the crowd-sourced mapping aspects of the New Mobility Project (“Catalyzing New Mobility in Cities: The Case of Metro Manila”), which is spearheaded by the Ateneo School of Government through their Innovations at the Base of the Pyramid in Southeast Asia (iBoP Asia) initiative. They had a project launch last January 31 and February 1 where the target area to be used as an example was North Triangle in Quezon City. Rally attended that event and we were all pleasantly surprised to see OSM used as the map. You can check the write-up of that event from Smart here: http://www.um-smart.org/blog/2012/02/08/smart-e-news-february-2012/ Some photos from that event showing OSM maps are the following: http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping6.jpg http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping5.jpg http://www.um-smart.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/12-2-7_Manila-Mapping.jpg The project had another event on March 13 and the target area was the Ortigas CBD. So this April 21 event is just another one in a series of events for the New Mobility Project (NeMo). This time the target is non-motorized transport (i.e., cycling) and the groups invited are cycling advocates like the Firefly Brigade. I hope many of you can come. :) Eugene On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Corrected link to invitation: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-2WZQ1DwK_xdnhYQTljWVJfLTQ On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:24 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, We are invited to facilitate a mapping workshop for non-motorized transport. The goal of this workshop is to help various organization get started with OSM in mappping non-motorized transport facilities in Metro Manila such as: - Cycling lanes, routes, parking, and related facilities - Bike shops and service centers - Points where cyclists gather on weekends 10 slots are reserved for any OSMer who can assist the group. Invitation letter and other details here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=16Rf4JkTxB1eETc0kfurlG0W6y66f4XD2o21mpOvOMxEbNtS1NGFUq_Y2DCwS Maning, Rally and Eugene will lead the workshop but any extra hands is most welcome. If you are interested, please inform us. We may need to meet in the morning to discuss distribution of tasks. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] (no subject)
We need an OSMPH delegation! :) On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:17 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: There will be another sotm scholarship this year. Maybe another rep from the ph can apply. On Apr 15, 2012 9:49 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: it's asia alright but an expensive one...plus visa hassles though I can ask my tokyo-based kuya to sponsor me plus i only have to buy my RT airfare On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:05 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Your chance to attend State of the Map 2012 in tokyo http://www.stateofthemap.org/register-now/ I don't think it will come back to Asia anytime sooner. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Status of Plaridel Bypass Road and the NLEX Balagtas Interchange
Hi guys, The newest development in NLEX appears to be the Balagtas Interchange which connects to the Plaridel Bypass Road which is currently being extended to connect Plaridel to Bustos and San Rafael. News articles: http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200articleid=789152 http://mb.com.ph/node/353070/new-nlex-interchange-opening- The interchange seems to be in OSM already and is located just north of the Tabang Spur Road: http://osm.org/go/4zOrwbLjT-?m And the connection to the Plaridel Bypass Road is in OSM too: http://osm.org/go/4zOr0N97?m Looking at Bing, no roads are visible but the construction area is visible, including the Bypass Road extension which is not marked in OSM yet. There are no uploaded GPS traces of these new roads in OSM yet so it would be nice if someone can do some surveying. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri: YOU (OSM) are GREAT!!!
Here's a nice and very encouraging report from Jean-Guilhem about his attendance at a recent GIS conference in Switzerland. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton Date: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:47 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri: YOU (OSM) are GREAT!!! To: h...@openstreetmap.org Cc: OSM-talk t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, Last week, I was at the conference GIS for the United Nations and the International Community, a conference organized by UNITAR's Operational Satellite Application Programme (UNOSAT) and Esri, April 3-5, 2012, at the World Meteorological Organization, in Geneva, Switzerland. The main message I'd like to get back to each and everyone of you, from the almost unanimous feedback I received and witnessed while I was there, is that OpenStreetMap is rather well known and very much appreciated among the people who attended the conference. It is difficult to carry across the kind of recognition and gratefulness that I felt for the work of OSM volunteers, and no expression can be exaggerated to convey it. I am not saying that Ban Ki-moon knows about OSM as much as he probably knows about Google, for instance, but at least the UN people connected in some (possibly remote) way to GIS know about it, and some are really well aware of the strengths (and also of course of the weaknesses) of OSM. Even in the panel that I attended in the first panel session, Geographic Information in Postcrisis - Transition to Stability and Redevelopment, where OSM was not explicitly on the agenda, it came up in the knowledgeable and lively discussion that followed, with some strong opinions expressed about the commercial character of the licence (from the point of view of this mostly humanitarian audience), and the restrictions it implies, a topic that deserves more development and to which I'll come back later in another post. The next day, I was a panelist in Open Data and the Crowd: Collaborating for Action, a panel moderated by Ryan Lanclos, Esri, where I had been invited at the last minute to represent H.O.T. It was a really very interesting panel, with Lars Bromley, UNITAR/UNOSAT, Jihad Abdalla, Emergency Officer at UNICEF/EMOPS, Andrej Verity, UNOCHA, and Frédéric Zanetta, IFRC. UNOSAT had made their own experiments about crowd-sourcing, and were well aware of its difficulties. I presented OSM in general, and in particular the remote mobilization for Haiti (with an extract of Tim Berners-Lee video at TED 2010) followed by field projects there, with the example of the STM_020 project in Saint Marc, Haiti, where I had just spent a month (I'll also come back to this later). I think, judging from later interventions, that I managed to get across the message that OSM is first of all a community (rather than a crowd). A similar point was also later expressed from the audience, with someone saying that organizations should engage with the crowd, not use it. In his conclusion, Andrej Verity encouraged the audience not to be afraid to engage the crowd. After this panel, my personal feeling was an exhilarating one that apparently everyone, from the panel and the interventions from the audience, had a desire to move forward, iteratively improving cooperation processes, and solving problems as they might arise. In the next panel that I attended, of particular interest was the presentation by René Saameli, of the ICRC, of the mapping of Walikale, DR Congo, to support the Red Cross water supply project there, jointly by remote OSM volunteers, who digitized the satellite image acquired by the Red Cross, by local Red Cross representative and correspondents, who collected field information, like names of streets and suburbs or points of interest, on Walking Papers (with no need for GPS units - which would be too costly if this process is to be repeated on a large scale), and remote OSM volunteers again, who entered WP info into the database, to produce a complete and accurate map of the town. Analyzes, such as population repartition estimation based on digitized buildings, could then also be conducted. The ICRC was so pleased by this project, as well as previous joint work with OSM (like for mapping Osh in Kirghiztan during the 2010 troubles there) that he declared that they are preparing a Memorandum of Understanding with HOT, and envision the possibility to have volunteers who would be both Red Cross and HOT, as the Red Cross and OSM are both mainly volunteers movements. Big credit goes to Frédéric Bonifas for building this trust relationship over the years. Here is an interview about this collaborative mapping: http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/interview/2012/mapping-interview-2012-04-05.htm Getting closer to the Red Cross and its millions of volunteers worldwide, for those interested, could be a way to bridge the missing link between the potential of OSM tools and the (mostly unmapped and unconnected) local communities of the developing world,
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
Hi Ed, The problem with this is that not all of the sites are in OSM and if the only source of the location of a site is from Google Maps, Panoramio, Wikimapia, etc. then we cannot legally add the location into OSM and so there is no ncca tag or similar to collect. Eugene On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, My two centavos worth ... would it not be easier if we just place a special tag on such POIs on OSM (maybe NCCA=yes or some other tag) then harvest them all via OSMosis later? That way, it eliminates transcribing errors. :) ed On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added a few. Will add more later. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, as a test, I've started adding some coordinates obtained from OSM. Check out some of the sites in Baguio and Ilocos Norte in the list. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I have created a public spreadsheet for the WLM sites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtokxpcNebAxdGJSMFRqX3F5Q3pZd2JpTGxJYThlOGc It seems crowdsourcing this task is the way to go and using the usual geo-research methodologies (OSM, Google, Panoramio, Wikimapia, WaypointsDotPH, etc.) Eugene On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! That's a very good tip. Thanks Jim On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM: Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
Hi Rally, Earlier I've actually thought of a better way than the spreadsheet to populate the WLM geo-database: create a web map application, where you can simply drag and drop a marker over the location of a site. But since creating such an app takes time, this Google Docs spreadsheet is a temporary measure. I envision the web map app to be something like this: 1. Left half is a table listing all the sites. The list can be filtered by location, completion status, etc. 2. Top-right quarter is where you edit the details of the site (address, etc.) You click on the left half table to select the site to be edited. 3. Bottom-right quarter is the map where you can drag a marker to locate the site. The map can be switched between OSM and Google Maps tiles. What do you think? :) Eugene On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried editing just now and it looks like GoogleDoc approach is better, considering that any newbie can point-and-click on either OSM or Google Map, press permalink, then cut paste the lat long info into the GoogleDocs spreadsheet. The GoogleMap OSM links are auto-generated. Coolness :-) All can see the progress of the project immediately. We can fill-up the address information. Then maybe, we can reinsert the crowd-sourced address data gathered here back to OSM via the available map editors. By then, the unmapped POI's from the list can be hunted down on field by mappers using GPS; then put the 'source' as gps or mapper. We finish the project early... We should have done this a long time a go :-) On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, My two centavos worth ... would it not be easier if we just place a special tag on such POIs on OSM (maybe NCCA=yes or some other tag) then harvest them all via OSMosis later? That way, it eliminates transcribing errors. :) ed On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added a few. Will add more later. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, as a test, I've started adding some coordinates obtained from OSM. Check out some of the sites in Baguio and Ilocos Norte in the list. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I have created a public spreadsheet for the WLM sites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtokxpcNebAxdGJSMFRqX3F5Q3pZd2JpTGxJYThlOGc It seems crowdsourcing this task is the way to go and using the usual geo-research methodologies (OSM, Google, Panoramio, Wikimapia, WaypointsDotPH, etc.) Eugene On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! That's a very good tip. Thanks Jim On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM: Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
Hi guys, I have created a public spreadsheet for the WLM sites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtokxpcNebAxdGJSMFRqX3F5Q3pZd2JpTGxJYThlOGc It seems crowdsourcing this task is the way to go and using the usual geo-research methodologies (OSM, Google, Panoramio, Wikimapia, WaypointsDotPH, etc.) Eugene On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! That's a very good tip. Thanks Jim On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM: Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help
By the way, as a test, I've started adding some coordinates obtained from OSM. Check out some of the sites in Baguio and Ilocos Norte in the list. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I have created a public spreadsheet for the WLM sites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtokxpcNebAxdGJSMFRqX3F5Q3pZd2JpTGxJYThlOGc It seems crowdsourcing this task is the way to go and using the usual geo-research methodologies (OSM, Google, Panoramio, Wikimapia, WaypointsDotPH, etc.) Eugene On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! That's a very good tip. Thanks Jim On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM: Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined panoramio, google earth, wikimapia. Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan Valley. Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos that are linked to GE. Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6489 4132 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Wikipedia mobile app now uses OSM
Hi everyone, The Wikimedia Foundation has just released new versions of their Wikipedia app for iOS and Android. One big change to the app is that they have switched to using OpenStreetMap (using the MapQuest Open tileset served via Leaflet, but Wikimedia plans to use its own tiles in the future) instead of Google Maps. Blog post here: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/05/new-wikipedia-app-for-ios-and-an-update-for-our-android-app/ This switch is not for economic reasons (since Google currently does not charge app developers for Google Maps for mobile), but for idealogical reasons (Wikipedia is about open data/knowledge after all), and also since the map feature can now be viewed on more Android phones especially those that do not have Google Maps Mobile built in. 2012 is looking to be the year of OpenStreetMap. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Wikipedia mobile app now uses OSM
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: Moving away from Openlayers and Google Maps and I am using Leaflet now with jQTouch + a bit of PhoneGap. However, QuickConnect is superior compare to PhoneGap. I had been looking at PhoneGap last year. One stumbling block for me to use PhoneGap for developing on iOS is that I need access to both OSX and iOS. Anyway, why do you think QuickConnect is better than PhoneGap? PhoneGap was acquired by Adobe, so it means that PhoneGap must be that good. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] 2012 OSMPH data stats so far
Hi everyone, Here are some OSMPH data stats as of April 1, 2012 (last Geofabrik extract before the server downtime/migration) compared to the start of 2011 and the start of 2012: Stats as of 2011-01-03*: OSM XML file size : 324 MB # Nodes: 1,528,760 # Ways: 127,544 # Relations: 645 Total length of highways**: 59,969 Km Stats as of 2012-01-02: OSM XML file size : 550 MB(70% increase) # Nodes: 2,779,792(82% increase) # Ways: 284,262(123% increase) # Relations: 1,776(175% increase) Total length of highways**: 86,794 Km (45% increase) Stats as of 2012-04-01 (increase compared to start of 2012): OSM XML file size : 634 MB(15% increase) # Nodes: 3,222,586(16% increase) # Ways: 323,359(14% increase) # Relations: 1,833(3% increase) Total length of highways**: 99,934 Km (15% increase) If we extrapolate the 2012 growth to the end of 2012 we would have the following projected stats: OSM XML file size : 880 MB # Nodes: 4,560,000 # Ways: 440,000 # Relations: 2,000 Total length of highways: 139,000 Km * This is based on maning's stats. ** I think maning and I use different metrics for calculating the length of highways and that is why my figure for April 2012 is less than the 100,000 Km that maning posted recently. In addition, we currently don't account for dual-carriageway highways. So take the kilometer lengths as a rough metric. Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Upcoming Maintenance - Read Only
Hi guys, You can start editing once again! http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/04/api-read-write-returns/ License/legal note: the database is still licensed CC-BY-SA 2.0. There is a background processing job being done to redact (i.e., hide and prevent it from being published) data coming from people who have not yet agreed or explicitly declined the Contributor Terms. Once this job is done, the OSM Foundation will announce when the database will be licensed as ODbL. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com Date: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:51 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Upcoming Maintenance - Read Only To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, OSM Dev List d...@openstreetmap.org, annou...@openstreetmap.org Between Sunday 1st of April 2012 (no joke) 8:00am (GMT / UTC) and the morning of the 4th of April 2012 the primary database server will be switched to read-only mode so that we can bring the new server (ramoth) onstream, bought thanks to your donations. Additional schedule details are available here: http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/03/27/service-schedule-march-april-2012/ When service is resumed, we will begin the license change as a background process, redacting any data whose authors have not consented to the new terms. If you have not yet agreed or declined please log in and do so before the downtime begins. Login issues? Assistance is available in #osm (irc.oftc.net) on http://irc.osm.org/ The following services WILL be affected: * www.openstreetmap.org web site will not allow edits (Potlatch or Potlatch 2). [1] * Write API (POST / PUT) and map database editing (using JOSM, Merkaartor etc.) will be unavailable. * planet.openstreetmap.org will be available but no new diffs will be generated until the license change is complete. Other services will NOT be affected - all of the following are expected to function normally: * tile serving (View The Map Export) * wiki.osm.org * forum.osm.org (will allow logins) * trac.osm.org (bug-tracker, logins allowed) * help.osm.org (will allow logins) * Nominatim.osm.org (search) * mailing lists - lists.osm.org * subversion ( svn.openstreetmap.org ) and git.openstreetmap.org (source code repositories) * donate.openstreetmap.org Technical: pg_dump (smaug) to pg_restore -j x (ramoth). Upgrading from PostgreSQL 8.4 to PostgreSQL 9.1 1: Maps will still be viewable on the openstreetmap.org homepage and on other people's websites. Sincerely Grant Slater On behalf of the OpenStreetMap sysadmin team. ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Messy map?
A comment on an article about Bing-OpenStreetMap caught my attention: http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/27/2906212/microsoft-openstreetmap-google-maps-competitor#96778644 The commenter posted a screenshot of the default OSM map style of Metro Manila and said: No.. Just.. No… and Look at that mess... I agree that it's messy, but one could always use the MapQuest Open style or MapBox Streets style if you want a more stylish and useful street map. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM in watercolor!
By the way, Stamen has explained how they did their Watercolor map: http://content.stamen.com/watercolor_process http://content.stamen.com/watercolor_textures I have correctly guessed most of the steps except for the part about using Perlin noise. (I had guessed they used some sort of noise, but none of the noise generators I know could do what they did. In other words, Perlin noise is one thing new I learned today!) Stamen also explained how they did their Terrain map: http://content.stamen.com/terrain_process ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM in watercolor!
I'm willing to create the design (maybe one for the whole Philippines; we can create regional/metro designs in the future). It would need to add just one or 2 watercolor labels in the very appropriate Aquiline font[1]. Plus add the necessary copyright and license info. :-) However, I can only do this during the Holy Week. Is that OK? [1] http://www.dafont.com/aquiline-two.font?text=Pilipinaspsize=l On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Gladys Regalado gla...@cp-union.com wrote: Sure, I can handle the printing end. Who can layout the shirt designs? :) I'll send in the quote once I've shown them the designs and the estimated amount of shirts we're getting. /gladys On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the T-shirt is good idea and good for OSM PH fund raising activities and promotion. You can sell it during workshops and meetings. Create one for Mindanao or Davao, Maning can bring these T-shirt in some his workshop in Mindanao and sell. Tourists might be also interested to buy this T-Shirt. Noli On 3/22/12, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: This reminds me of Bing Maps' sketchy and treasure map styles (too bad they don't use OSM data for those styles): http://flowingdata.com/2010/06/09/find-your-booty-with-bing-treasure-maps/ +1 on the t-shirt idea. :-) On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:26 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Nice!! http://maps.stamen.com/#watercolor/12/14.6386/121.1492 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012
Hi guys, based on the latest information, the start of database/license migration activities on the server side will most likely be on April 1, NOT March 27. So we have a few more days to clean up. :) On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The planned db rebuild to switch to a new license (ODBL) will start in March 27, 2012. According to this page: http://odbl.poole.ch/phillippines-20120213-20120314-poly.html , the Philippines is ~94-98% ODBL compliant. A webmap showing where areas are affected is here: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=122.74731lat=11.41973zoom=7overlays=overview,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created -- Forwarded message -- From: Simon Poole si...@poole.ch Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012 To: openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org See http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Rebuild_Plan ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Crowdsourcing health facilities
Do we just simply point out where the hospitals, clinics, health offices, and the like are? Do we also need to add DOH or PhilHealth classifications as a special tag somewhere? On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: This is the site: https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/ They are encouraging mapping of health facilities directly in gmapmaker and also osm. On Mar 24, 2012 9:47 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Philhealth is requesting the crowd to locate health facilities. They are particularly using googlemap but encourages the use of osm as well. The news article did not provide the site where the reports should be submitted though. If anyone has direct contacts to philhealth, maybe we can provide them with an extract of all health facilities in OSM. http://www.geospatialworld.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=24335%3Aphilippines-launches-crowdsourcing-for-health-initiativecatid=56%3Aapplication-healthItemid=61utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+GeospatialWorldNews+%28Geospatial+World+News%29fb_source=message ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] WIWOSM: Wikipedia Where in OpenStreetMap
Hi guys, There's a new project that aims to bring more collaboration between OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia called WIWOSM (Wikipedia Where in OpenStreetMap): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM To quickly see what this is all about, check out the German Wikipedia where WIWOSM has been pushed live for testing. Go to the article about the Ateneo de Manila University on the German Wikipedia[1] and then click on the Karte (German for map) link on the upper-right corner of the article. You will then see a pop-on map showing OSM as the basemap, but with one thing new: a polygon overlay displaying the corresponding object in OSM. Neat! == The state before == There has been limited activities bridging OSM and Wikipedia before, but most of them operate in one project independently of the other. === OSM in Wikipedia === * In some Wikipedias where the pop-on map has been installed (like the German Wikipedia; sadly not the English Wikipedia where the traffic is too big to be handled) the pop-on map uses OSM as the basemap * Some Wikipedians use OSM as the source for creating static maps. Either the map was created using the OSM map tiles like the map of the Costa Concordia disaster[2], or the raw OSM data was used to create a brand new map, such as this map of Louisville, Kentucky[3]. * Wikipedia articles can be geotagged. An example is shown on the English Wikipedia article on the Manila Observatory[4], where you can see the coordinates on the upper-right corner. This brings up a link to the Geohack web page[5] that lets you see where the coordinate is on various online maps such as Google Maps and OpenStreetMap. The big limitation is that articles can only have a single point for geotagging. So whether the article is about a country or a building, you can only associate it with a single point on the map. === Wikipedia in OSM === * Objects in OpenStreetMap can have a tag (wikipedia=*) specifying the corresponding Wikipedia article. An example is the OSM polygon for the Ateneo de Manila University[6]. == What WIWOSM adds == Because Wikipedia's system of geotagging articles with just a single coordinate does not really show the geographical extent of the article's subject, using the existing OpenStreetMap shape/data for the subject seems obvious. That's what WIWOSM does: it shows the actual shape of the subject, using OSM instead of just a point location. How do we make WIWOSM work (at least for the Wikipedias where it is deployed)? 1. Make sure that the Wikipedia article is geotagged first (so that a map link will be shown). 2. Make sure that the OpenStreetMap object has the wikipedia=* tag.[7] And after the OSM database in Wikipedia's toolserver has been updated, the WIWOSM maps will also be updated. Cheers, Eugene [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ateneo_de_Manila_University [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Location_of_Costa_Concordia_cruise-ship_disaster_%2813-1-2012%29.png [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Louisville_%28Kentucky%29_map-fr.svg [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_Observatory [5] http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Manila_Observatoryparams=14.63667_N_121.07667_E_type:landmark_source:USNO/HMNAO [6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/138294127 [7] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM in watercolor!
This reminds me of Bing Maps' sketchy and treasure map styles (too bad they don't use OSM data for those styles): http://flowingdata.com/2010/06/09/find-your-booty-with-bing-treasure-maps/ +1 on the t-shirt idea. :-) On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:26 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Nice!! http://maps.stamen.com/#watercolor/12/14.6386/121.1492 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] BGC C-5 flyover
maning, Rally actually beat you to it by about a day: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11030523 :) On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/1197920 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11036928 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, I've confirmed that this flyover is now open. I've edited OSM to indicate such: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10967343 The flyover shape is just estimated. Somebody should get GPS track to confirm. :-) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I neglected to confirm today if the flyover is passable now, but I can confirm that the flyover is indeed as good as finished as of Thursday night. It's been marked as highway=construction in OSM for months now. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: is this really open? I can pass there tonight as I sometimes take a detour to BGC via a circuitous route to kalayaan to avoid EDSA traffic to QC http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200articleid=785069 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Garmin map icon for convenience stores
Subject was BGC C-5 flyover This is an osmph garmin map issue, we used the generic 7-11 icons for shop=grocer. Suggestions for a better icon style welcome. on another note, since i use my unit zoomed in to reveal POIs, there's this annoying 7-Eleven icon that indicates small convenience store that's actually Mini-stop. is this a Nuvi problem or a map problem? The current icon for convenience stores in our Garmin map is actually a 7-11 and Mini Stop hybrid. The top half represents 7-11 while the bottom is for Mini Stop (recognize the colors?) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Garmin map icon for convenience stores
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, my idea may already be obsolete. Any new intuitive icon design is welcome. It's actually easy to customize to improve the TYP file, and I can teach those not familiar... This sounds like an OpenStreetMap - Garmin workshop to me. Rally can teach how to make custom Garmin TYP (i.e., style) files, while maning can teach how to run mkgmap (which is the standard OSM to Garmin map converter software). Anybody interested? :-) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
