Re: doesn't hide HTML attachments
Hello Dierk, On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:59:00 +0100GMT (19/12/2001, 17:59 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: FWIW you also see the HTML attachment icon in the latest release DH I want to see it. I'd post a screenshot, but don't have a screen capture utility here in the office. At home, I am running a beta version of TB. So I guess you will just have to believe me that here on this PC, I have release version 1.53t installed and still see the HTML attachment icon after I have clicked on the HTML attachment tab at the bottom, and while I am reading a message in HTML. DH So when I see a wrongly rendered HTML message I am interested in I DH can just double click on the shown attachment. I do that sometimes. Clicking on the HTML of course opens the editor, but clicking on .gif files sent with the file will show you the stupid background picture. Again, I can do this while I am watching the message in HTML mode. Believe it or not. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
SOT: beta testing
A very interesting article on beta testing of commercial software: http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=1007600207 Lots and lots of good points there; the interviewee is as keen as I am on tools which make everything visible to everyone. (As you can probably guess I'm not impressed with the way RITLabs does beta testing*; it's too haphazard and the _testers_ cannot see how, and if, their data are being handled which, in my case, is offputting. Witness the IMAP closure problem, which RITLabs told me was duplicatable and would be fixed yet has been hanging around for three builds so far!) Alastair * that said, very few get it anywhere near right; StarOffice, with a Sun-hosted newsgroup and the Sun staff posting responses to that newsgroup (rather than privately to the testers), was not bad. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! - bug report - Help - Help Topics menu still not Work
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/16a Serial Number 12A1F196 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 67109975 B and would like to report a bug The bug description: Click Help - Help Topics give you the Help windows and not the Help Topics Dialog were you could browse the TOC or the index. (BTW: I'm using the WinHelp (*.HLP) Help not the HTML Help (*.CHM)) Steps to reproduce the bug: Well, try it out. Not hard to find Regards, Dirk Heiser -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: SOT: beta testing
@ 12:16:03 + [ Wed, 19 Dec 2001], Alastair Scott [AS] wrote these words of wisdom: ... AS A very interesting article on beta testing of commercial software: AS http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=1007600207 A nice read. :-) AS Lots and lots of good points there; the interviewee is as keen as I am AS on tools which make everything visible to everyone. AS (As you can probably guess I'm not impressed with the way RITLabs AS does beta testing*; it's too haphazard and the _testers_ cannot AS see how, and if, their data are being handled which, in my case, AS is offputting. I guess that this is as a result of a lack of good *consistent* communication which is my main problem with the process. I don't see the point of releasing a beta with spanking new features which aren't intuitive, and then there's no instruction on how to use the new feature. How is it supposed to be tested then? Or is the obscurity some way of straining out who tests the feature since the more savvy will be able to 'figure it out'. :-) I hope this is being construed as constructive criticism and not whining. Communication is the main problem to me. Otherwise I don't see much scope for improvement considering the company size and resources. I do think that there are also a lot of excellent beta testers subscribed to this group who could do a lot more if given a chance and are communicated with more effectively. I don't know what's happening on private channels so I can't speak for that. As far as I'm concerned private notes should be minimised so that all can benefit from the exchanges, but I can understand a beta tester resorting to private notes when no responses are forthcoming to important queries made publicly on the list. I do also realize that the developers need time to debug and develop but there's that balance that needs to be struck with communication on the other hand. AS Witness the IMAP closure problem, which RITLabs told me was AS duplicatable and would be fixed yet has been hanging around for AS three builds so far!) It's likely that they're working on a solution but haven't found it yet. But again, no communication of this. It's a case of submitting your problem and hoping it's heard and fixed. This has been working for me. We're being heard. No doubt about that.:-) They do listen and will fix serious bugs and implement important and useful enhancements ... in time. So, I hope with all of this Ritlabs and all who care to read my opinion here, realize that despite my negative slant in this message, I do have very positive views on The Bat! and its development over the years. :-) AS * that said, very few get it anywhere near right; Exactly, and we have to accept this ... to an extent. g Just my $0.02 worth. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/16a Win2K SP2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
Hi all, It would appear that the common folders need their own configuration dialog, perhaps in the configuration panel (Preferences), since I have no way of adjusting the delay time before messages are flagged as read. What about the 'compress all folders upon exit' option, the 'mark message as read only when only when opened in a separate window' option as well as 'Home directory' options? These would be needed as well. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/16a Win2K SP2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Thread by Subject/Sort by Date Obscures New Messages
Version 1.54 beta 15 introduced this change: [*] Oldest messages are used as thread roots for threading by subject/from/to This causes problems when both threading by subject and sorting by received date (in descending order) are used. Typically when you have a folder sorted by date you want to see new messages at the top, and that's the way it worked until beta 15. Now, if there is another message in the folder with the same subject, the new message gets buried under it. This can be a particular inconvenience in folders with large number of messages. I've to use View/Display/Only Unread messages just to find some new messages. Suggestion: If a folder is sorted by received date or created date in descending order, do not use the oldest message as the thread root, but rather use the NEWEST message as the root. Ron -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
@ 14:45:46 +0100 (CET) [ Wed, 19 Dec 2001], Marek Mikus [MM] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... It would appear that the common folders need their own configuration dialog, perhaps in the configuration panel (Preferences), since I have no way of adjusting the delay time before messages are flagged as read. MM and no possibility to define, where attachments should be stored, MM for example. That's right. What about the 'compress all folders upon exit' option, MM as I remember, this option was already added to Account properties. This is on a per account basis. I don't think it can be applied to the common folders unless, the common folders are made to inherit the settings of the default account which wouldn't be desirable for want of control of those common folders. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/16a Win2K SP2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Thread by Subject/Sort by Date Obscures New Messages
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:06:12 -0500, Ron Mura [RM] wrote these comments: ... RM This causes problems when both threading by subject and sorting by RM received date (in descending order) are used. Typically when you RM have a folder sorted by date you want to see new messages at the RM top, and that's the way it worked until beta 15. RM Now, if there is another message in the folder with the same RM subject, the new message gets buried under it. This can be a RM particular inconvenience in folders with large number of messages. RM I've to use View/Display/Only Unread messages just to find some RM new messages. RM Suggestion: If a folder is sorted by received date or created date RM in descending order, do not use the oldest message as the thread RM root, but rather use the NEWEST message as the root. Hmmm. I see what you mean. Before this new feature was introduced, I used to sort messages in descending order of received time and the oldest message would start the thread with the messages getting newer as I go down. This is my personal preference and it works for me. Finding new messages doesn't require digging since I just use the 'go to next unread message' navigation option (CTRL-]). I don't believe in imposing style on others and having the oldest message *always* at the top of the thread, no matter the sorting order chosen by dates (this is what appears to be the case after testing) seems like a bad move to me. Are there those who would wish to sort in *ascending* order of date and yet wish for the oldest message to be at the top? -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/16a (*) OS: Win2K SP2] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
On 19 Dec 2001, 7:45:46 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: What about the 'compress all folders upon exit' option, as I remember, this option was already added to Account properties. The problem is there is no account properties dialogue for the common folders. You cannot even empty the common trash folder on exit unless your focus is on that folder when you quit. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/16a on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Thread by Subject/Sort by Date Obscures New Messages
On 19 Dec 2001, 8:15:19 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: Are there those who would wish to sort in *ascending* order of date and yet wish for the oldest message to be at the top? My general practice is to sort by created time, with the newest on top. But when I toggle to threaded view to put a message in context, it seems logical to me that the thread be headed by the message which began it. As a thread grows, there are answers to third generation messages which are later than answers to 5th generation messages. What does the sorting do when there are multiple messages with identical date and time from different branches of the thread of you try to display from bottom up. Admitted this won't happen often, but since it can happen the code would have to deal with it. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/16a on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
Hello Allie. At 8:37 AM on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Configuration Dialog for Common Folders': Allie It would appear that the common folders need their Allie own configuration dialog [...] I would agree w this pov because it appears that the creation of common folders was intended for gen'l work that doesn't/shouldn't necessarily apply to a particular account. Currently I'm using common folders to collect tech notes on many programs, archived msgs, personal mail I want to answer, project folders spam. And I would want to control their behavior separately from any account settings. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/16/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Collapse threads keyboard shortcut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBBETA Members! I hope I am not the only one: Why can't the keyboard shortcut for Expand all threads and Collapse all threads not be the same? Like F8 toggles the AB on or off Ctrl+* could toggle the threads. Much easier then to use another precious combi ... - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/16 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Auch ein anständiger Mensch kann, vorausgesetzt, dass es nie herauskommt, sich heutzutage einen geachteten Namen schaffen. (Karl Kraus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPCCbsvTo1oA8g8dLEQIt+gCg5bFBgtK/x3UZHsvXNiIX9CO8Wi4AniZx NOcZPMDXhnQ8KKvc6V7oBI3w =7BHF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
1.54 Beta/17
Hi All, New Beta is available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html The direct download URL is http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b17.rar Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for folders plus a couple of issues is solved... We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please do not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs in the release version - I have a strong suspicion we will be making post-releases soon :-) I am sorry about such a mess, but there were some difficulties in the past several months making it tough to develop the program intensively. Most of them were connected with health issues, but I hope the life will get better in the next year :-) Please report hot bugs in reply to this message and hopefully they'll get fixed in the release. By hot I mean urgent and major ones. Thank you for your help and understanding! -- Regards, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Help! I'm modeming... and I can't hang up!!! -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Collapse threads keyboard shortcut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:52:34 +0100GMT (which was 15:52 +0100GMT where I live), Dierk Haasis thought about Collapse threads keyboard shortcut and wrote: DH I hope I am not the only one: Why can't the keyboard shortcut for DH Expand all threads and Collapse all threads not be the same? DH Like F8 toggles the AB on or off Ctrl+* could toggle the DH threads. Much easier then to use another precious combi ... Hi Dierk, I assume it is because there are more possible options with thread expanding than on or off. What, e.g., should the shortcut do when some threads are expanded and some are not? - -- Cheers Peter * This message was created using The Bat!, version 1.54 Beta/16a, under Windows 98, 4, 10, build 67766222, on a Pentium II machine at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM :-) . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8INCvAzZSBuEHdM4RAnigAJ9O0DxWk4VT+Tl0o5gnE9gq9ba1/wCeJ3Ax VCj18+GFqZHBqL+bPlgLg5s= =qPgf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Collapse threads keyboard shortcut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter! On 19 Dec 2001 at 18:39:28 you wrote: I assume it is because there are more possible options with thread expanding than on or off. What, e.g., should the shortcut do when some threads are expanded and some are not? Very easy as there are only two possibilities: 1. Hit shortcut Ctrl+* and all threads expand; hit it again and all threads are collapsed. 2. The other way round. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Assumptions are the mother of all screw ups. (Derek Leveret) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPCDGVfTo1oA8g8dLEQJqNACbBMYgo6l2YYOEm0aexr27EX3Zx2EAoNS8 GocZBABJIXRghCVNLFYeuEBp =G1WQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:43:44 +0100, Jacek Wojaczynski [JW] wrote these comments: ... JW PS. Still hope that Christmas Edition won't be totally fu@#$% up... moderator Oops!! Profanity, expressed or implied isn't allowed on this list. Please refrain from using it guys. Thanks. :-) /moderator - -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/17 WinXP Home PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjwhS28ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IQlwCgqDKYhsxSLzZ3rWYeU9XyhETo g/gAnjQtx84J/ilFUn/BwVXUmL0qzvzF =Pefd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Collapse threads keyboard shortcut
Hello Peter, On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:57:53 +0100GMT (20/12/2001, 03:57 +0800GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM So, different people - different requirements... (Just for me, I don't care PM too much about the ctrl + * option...) I use crtl-* all the time, because I want to see all threads expanded. Wasn't there a promise that TB will remember the state and not invariably open the Folder View with all threads collapsed? PM We should continue on TBOT, it might get philosophical... *S* No. I think this belongs here. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
Hello David. At 6:30 PM on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject '1.54 Beta/17': Stefan Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for Stefan folders [...] JR How do I get to this option? David I think: 'Folder | Check for viruses'. But it's blanked on my system David because the plugin isn't working. A, yes. That's why I missed it. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/17/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:16:47 +0200GMT (20/12/2001, 01:16 +0800GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST Basically, it only adds a new virus checking window for folders plus ST a couple of issues is solved... This is your changelog? ST We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please do ST not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs in the ST release version Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can with no good conscience recommend a buggy program. It is against all I stand for (which includes quality in software products). ST - I have a strong suspicion we will be making ST post-releases soon :-) I am sorry about such a mess, but there were ST some difficulties in the past several months making it tough to ST develop the program intensively. Most of them were connected with ST health issues, but I hope the life will get better in the next year ST :-) I wish you all good health. If the release of a new version is delayed because of poor health, everybody will understand this, and I will be the first one to defend you, should anybody critisise the delay. If a buggy version is released just to keep a deadline, you will lose customer confidence. Your competitors are not sleeping either, and they will have a field day. Don't do that. ST Thank you for your help and understanding! Don't take this the wrong way, but my help in this case is in warning you against the release of a product with known bugs. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: 1.54 Beta/17
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2001-12-19 at 22:24:11 Jody Watts wrote: JW The *** MOST ANNOYING *** problem (to me) is the pause or system JW hang after checking mail. It last about 3 seconds, but it has been JW around since at least Beta 13 or 14. I almost never have this problem (using Win2k SP2). The only time I see it, is if I have a (low priority) task in the background which takes up almost all CPU time, such as compressing a DivX, and the mail server is responding very slowly at the same time. It seems as if The Bat is then starved for CPU, and responds quite badly to events (but it doesn't hang up totally, however). I'm not sure how The Bat processes WinSock events, but if it is via the (old-fashioned) system of processing windows messages in the main WindowProc, then this could be the problem. However, switching to a fully asynchronous WinSock event model is not an easy task... Not to mention incompatible with older versions of Windows. Do other people with the pause problem have CPU-consuming tasks running in the background? Cheers, - -- Dimitry Andric [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dim/dim.asc Fingerprint: 7AB462D2CE35FC6D42394FCDB05EA30A2E2096A3 Lbh ner abj va ivbyngvba bs gur QZPN -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/stoa_cover.htm iQA/AwUBPCFTf7BeowouIJajEQIaDQCg0yh0jZr2UPfeEfBvrH35y9ZarH8An2UD YauCDb48KJeyo2nJDBq1aDz8 =0vk+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
On 19 Dec 2001, 9:56:56 PM, Dimitry Andric wrote: Do other people with the pause problem have CPU-consuming tasks running in the background? that is at least when I notice it -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
On 19 Dec 2001, 9:49:13 PM, Thomas F wrote: ST We have to release a new version in a couple of days, so please ST do not blame us if there will be unfixed (long-standing) bugs ST in the release version Sorry, I have no understading for this policy. Should I warn the poor folks on the German lists that the new version contains known bugs but has been released nevertheless (if you do deicde to make this fatal marketing mistake)? Please fix the bugs first, and then release. I can with no good conscience recommend a buggy program. I guess I can't even imagine what is about to happen. Are we talking about releasing a version 1.54? If this is true it's crazy. 1.54 is not yet ready for prime time! Are you talking about releasing this as 2.0? If that is true, TheBat! is about to self destruct. The 1.54 Beta has great promise. I see lots of good things starting to fall into place. BUT it still has too many incomplete additions and rough edges. Common folders are going to be good, but right now they are not there yet. The same is true of lots of things happening here. People who don't like betas until they are pretty solid would do well to move to 1.54 by now. People who resist all betas will be very unhappy with 1.54, because it will be clear that it is really just a beta not a perfected thing. Don't do it. Please. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Can anybody made some additional tests
Hello tbbeta, -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Preferences panel is hidden by The Bat! main window. Steps to reproduce the bug: Click Options, Preferences, System, Browse. The focus is no longer on The Bat! Minimise by right clicking on The Bat! icon in system tray and selecting minimise. The Preferences dialog and directory tree window then appear. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I never can reproduce or construct reasonable opinion - How it can be on single system (I haven't same reports and see nothing here)... Source OS - Win-98 1998 (as I can reconstruct), tested platforms - 98 SE (but in _this_ case differences _was_ supposed meaningless)... Can first 98 build owners see at this problem? (I _know about _a lot_ annoyable bugs - bug they are known, reproducable... This locking - no...) -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 Weakened by Windows 98 4.10.67766446 A -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bug? (more an annoyance)
Hello, 19 Dec 2001, 11:19:49 PM, Jody Watts wrote: JW When I am typing a message (in beta 17), and I use a word not in the JW spelling dictionary it gets a red squiggly line under it. If I then JW right click on the word and choose IGNORE ALL, the lines don't JW disappear. Confirmed. :( Doesn't work in Beta/14 as well. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
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Hello All, Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 After all, why is it not a beta/17? :) -- Best regards, Boris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Can anybody made some additional tests
Hello, 20 Dec 2001, 12:03:44 AM, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA Hello Alexander, JA An archeological dig discovered that on Thursday, December 20, 2001 at JA 10:11 GMT +0500, Alexander Leschinsky [AL] typed the following: AL Click Options, Preferences, System, Browse. AL The focus is no longer on The Bat! Minimise by right clicking on The AL Bat! icon in system tray and selecting minimise. The Preferences AL dialog and directory tree window then appear. JA Confirmed. See footers for system details. JA The Preferences dialogue and the folder selection dialogue both get JA pushed behind the TB main window. The focus is on the folder JA selection dialogue, it is just pushed to the back. Press Alt-F4 twice JA to regain control of TB (ie, use the Windows shortcut to close both JA dialogues). If you make the TB window very small and move it to the JA side, what I'm describing can be seen very easily. Just tested it from home on Windows 98 4.10. A Russian. Closed all switcheble tasks and followed instructions. Result exactly like Januk described. Just two additional notes: If you have TB! icon in a task bar instead of system tray you are not able to minimize TB! main window by right-clicking on it - menu just not appears. You can return to TB! by pressing ESC twice. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Can anybody made some additional tests
Hello Januk, On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:03:44 -0800 (20.12.2001 11:03 my local time) you wrote about Can anybody made some additional tests, at least in part: JA Confirmed. See footers for system details. Dammn... My OS, as I can see... Well, Januk, can we find differences and build reproduction guide as it seems as common-happens bug? -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 1.54 Beta/17 Weakened by Windows 98 4.10.67766446 A -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bug? (more an annoyance)
Hello Jody, On Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 09:19:49 PM -0700, you wrote the following in regards to Bug? (more an annoyance): To reproduce: in the message editor (new message) misspell a word, right click on the misspelled word and choose ignore all. That bug has been around for ages... for as far back as I can remember. -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Courtenay, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! v1.54/Beta 16 | Win 98 SE | PGP 7.1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
