Re[2]: X
That's why I asked for the option to configure it to each wishes, either down to the systray or exit. Then each of us can have her/his own preference here. Programs currently running that behave this way with or without the option to configure the X buttons behaviour: My antivirus agent .. F-Secure or Kapersky antivirus cut.. Yes, here too are such programs. Add f.i. Some other and emailclients that excellent Spamfilter K9 for TB to them and many more, like: Serv-U FTP Server Trillian BlackIce Firewall Yankee Clipper (great XP clipboard replacement!) etc...etc. How is it? Did at least one of the coding-people read this thread? :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under WinXP Pro 5, built 2600, Service Pack 1 ... Acid test? You are soaking in it... Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Gunivortus Goos everyone else 31-Okt-2004 07:35, you wrote: How is it? Did at least one of the coding-people read this thread? :-) I'd you can go open a Wish on BT and let us know the URL, so people can add their support notes. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: 2nd Level Distance by Pete Namlook Wolfram Spyra from the 2000 album 'Virtual Vices II' Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Guten Tag Alexander, ASK I'd you can go open a Wish on BT and let us know the URL, ASK so people can add their support notes. OK... did that... for the first time, I hope, I did it correct. The link is: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3999 -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Gunivortus Goos The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under WinXP Pro 5, built 2600, Service Pack 1 ... Drive C:\ formatting... Press any key to continue... Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Series of AV's followed by a crash
Hi TBBeta, I had some AV related with the Trash on IMAP (as far as I can see, there are gone now). The problem wasn't in TB! itself but in the NTDLL, so something must be very wrong here. See attached picture. -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Service Pack 2attachment: myav1.PNG Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: new revision
Hi Chris, On Saturday, October 30, 2004 09:04 your local time, which was 08:04 my local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; CW Just received an AV @ 009A2810 - Read of address 00B8. I've just received this AV again. It seems to happen just after starting and pressing Alt-F2 to check all accounts. Once it's done it once, it doesn't appear to happen again. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Thomas,
Friday, October 29, 2004, 4:00:24 PM, you wrote:
Hello TBBETA,
The reason for this test is that I get the following error message
when trying to send another message:
!29/10/2004, 22:58:53: SEND - Server reports error. The response
is: 5.7.0 {mp011} Sender address does not belong to logged in user
Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course
--
Best regards,
Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Beta testing (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)
Hello Roelof, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 9:27:03 PM, you wrote: Hallo MaXxX, On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:34 +0200GMT (28-10-2004, 19:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M I'm asking for a way to make betatesting easier, as it was for the M short time between introducing the /REG parameter and turning to MSI M installations. Well, you could always configure another user account in Windows 2000 and do a second install. I realize that that might not be the optimal solution for you, but IMO beta testing should be done with a working configuration as beta testing should be testing whether the thing works in everyday use. Since everybody need to make his own decisions about running his/her system, you and I are entitled to different opinions on how to run tests. Never mind the cookie though. ;-) Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Thomas,
Friday, October 29, 2004, 4:05:34 PM, you wrote:
Hello Thomas,
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:00:24 +0700 GMT (29/10/2004, 23:00 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF !29/10/2004, 22:58:53: SEND - Server reports error. The
TF response is: 5.7.0 {mp011} Sender address does not belong to
TF logged in user
The sender address *does* belong. This message came through didn't it?
I'll go hunting in the headers and see what's wrong with the other
message.
Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course
--
Best regards,
Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Where to get latest betas)
Hello Marck, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 2:52:13 PM, you wrote: Dear John, @20-Oct-2004, 09:49 -0500 (20-Oct 15:49 UK time) John Morse [JM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Nick: JM cold someone tell me where to get the latest beta version? moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out John. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Where to get latest betas
Hello Marck, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 2:54:35 PM, you wrote: Dear John, @20-Oct-2004, 09:49 -0500 (20-Oct 15:49 UK time) John Morse [JM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Nick: JM cold someone tell me where to get the latest beta version? Peter Meyns already did in this very thread. http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30201.rar Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Where to get latest betas
Hello Nick, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 1:16:53 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, at 6:14:40 AM, Chris wrote: I got mine from betanews.com but why is the 3.0.2.1 not listed on ritlabs the bat! beta site? I wondered as well, because for the longest time you could find the latest Beta here: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/index.php?login=yes Instead now they've chosen to go with one URL at the time of release for some reason. shrug Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Where to get latest betas
Hello Peter, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 11:04:16 AM, you wrote: Hi Chris, on Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:30:14 -0400GMT, you wrote: C I got mine from betanews.com but why is the 3.0.2.1 not listed on C ritlabs the bat! beta site? How did they get on betanews if it's C not public beta? It was announced on this list to be at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30201.rar and that's where I found it. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Where to get latest betas)
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Re: Where to get latest betas
Hello John, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 2:49:28 PM, you wrote: cold someone tell me where to get the latest beta version? For some reason I've noticed you all using a version later than the one that is on the official beta page on Ritlabs. I swear I have never experienced software that I have both HATED and LOVED at the same time! Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 8:16:53 AM, you wrote: NA I wondered as well, because for the longest time you could find the latest NA Beta here: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/index.php?login=yes NA Instead now they've chosen to go with one URL at the time of release for NA some reason. shrug Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Where to get latest betas
Hello Chris, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 5:30:14 AM, you wrote: Hello All, I got mine from betanews.com but why is the 3.0.2.1 not listed on ritlabs the bat! beta site? How did they get on betanews if it's not public beta? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [IGNORE] Test
Hello Christian, Monday, October 18, 2004, 8:22:44 AM, you wrote: Just a test for the subscription to the listing! :) Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Testing Scheduled items
Hello Michael, Monday, October 18, 2004, 4:46:23 AM, you wrote: TB BETA ERS, I would like to test the scheduled items I have setup without changing the time. I understand that I can change the time to a minute from now, but a simple - run now command would be great. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello MAU, Saturday, October 16, 2004, 11:43:01 AM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, Strange. If 9Val doesn't succeed in fixing this in the upcoming beta, I guess I should try a reinstall. If I couldn't reproduce on my second PC, I would already have done a reinstall. As I said, time to wait for the upcoming beta. Thanks for testing! There _is_ something wrong with VF auto-refreshing though. First refer to what I write in my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to 9Val. Now look at the attached PNGs. Although Peter Ouwehand's message shows as replied in my TBBeta folder (after moving out and in again) the same message in my To Me VF doesn't appear as replied even though the VF has been auto refreshed several times when receiving more replies to me. The replied flag/icon appears to be updated only when doing a manual refresh of the VF. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Saturday, October 16, 2004, 11:30:22 AM, you wrote: On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 13:26, MAU wrote: Your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a reply to me. It was properly coloured by incoming filter and my To Me VF was properly updated with no need to refresh it. Strange. If 9Val doesn't succeed in fixing this in the upcoming beta, I guess I should try a reinstall. If I couldn't reproduce on my second PC, I would already have done a reinstall. As I said, time to wait for the upcoming beta. Thanks for testing! Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello MAU, Saturday, October 16, 2004, 11:26:02 AM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, Yes, 14 CGs at the moment. And yes, I do have a number of VFs filtering on some of them and everything seems to work fine here. However, please note that I have not upgraded/downgraded ;-) to 3.0.2.1 yet. For me it broke when switching to 3.0.2.1. Can you please install this version to give it a try? You could always go back afterwards. Your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a reply to me. It was properly coloured by incoming filter and my To Me VF was properly updated with no need to refresh it. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello MAU, Friday, October 15, 2004, 10:35:54 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, For me it broke when switching to 3.0.2.1. Can you please install this version to give it a try? You could always go back afterwards. I'll give a try tomorrow, OK? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello 9Val, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:41:18 PM, you wrote: Hello Boris, BA I don't think either. But maybe? I'm running WinXP SP1. But AFAIK 9Val BA has done something with updating (to get manual refiltering of a lot BA of messages quicker) - this maybe causes your problem? It seems so Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello 9Val, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:42:48 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, MO 9Val, any ideas? Have responsed twice already ;) Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Boris, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:20:28 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 23:06 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When receiving a message. The problem seems to be the VF does not list newly received messages matching the search criteria. Can't confirm. I created a filter, which marks any message with a color group, and a VF which filters this or another color group: It works fine here. Automatically updating your VF at once when the mails are received. Yes. Strange, as I said, I can reproduce on two different machines (both running W2K, but I suspect this isn't OS dependent). I don't think either. But maybe? I'm running WinXP SP1. But AFAIK 9Val has done something with updating (to get manual refiltering of a lot of messages quicker) - this maybe causes your problem? Don't know, maybe Ritlabs/9Val can say something? Or another one can test? I suppose you are running v3.0.2.1? I tested it with this, yes. Your signature doesn't reveal, neither does your headers. Would only confuse - I test mostly on current betas - but use still 2.12.03 Final (and write to list also with this version). Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:32:55 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 23:20, Boris Anders wrote: Strange, as I said, I can reproduce on two different machines (both running W2K, but I suspect this isn't OS dependent). I don't think either. But maybe? I'm running WinXP SP1. But AFAIK 9Val has done something with updating (to get manual refiltering of a lot of messages quicker) - this maybe causes your problem? Don't know, maybe Ritlabs/9Val can say something? OK, if no one else can confirm, I guess it's time to wait for a word from 9Val. Meanwhile, I guess I'll go back to the release version, I never thought I would be this dependent on VFs... Your signature doesn't reveal, neither does your headers. Would only confuse - I test mostly on current betas - but use still 2.12.03 Final (and write to list also with this version). Ah, I see. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:47:52 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 23:42, 9Val wrote: MO OK, if no one else can confirm, I guess it's time to wait for a MO word from 9Val. There are some optimizations in message change notifications, so seems like sometimes that notifications are lost at all Good to hear you have an idea what's wrong. Just tell me when there is a new version to test. I'm off again, thanks for your response. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello 9Val, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:42:03 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, MO OK, if no one else can confirm, I guess it's time to wait for a word MO from 9Val. There are some optimizations in message change notifications, so seems like sometimes that notifications are lost at all Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 3:36:25 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 17:27, Marcus Ohlström wrote: What I didn't notice earlier was that as soon as I viewed the message in my TBBETA folder, the count of my VF increased, just as it should have done when the message was received. No, it's not when I view the message, it's when the status change from Unread to Read. Sorry for that. I am leaving my computer for a few hours, if my not to precise bug report seem to cause confusion, I'll try to summarise it when I get back. Until then, have a nice morning/day/evening/night. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 3:27:45 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 17:15, Marcus Ohlström wrote: When receiving a message. The problem seems to be the VF does not list newly received messages matching the search criteria. I am sorry for this maybe confusing bug report, I seem to discover things every time I post to the list. I just got the message I am currently replying to. It was correctly marked with a colour group, the count of my TBBETA folder increased and my TBBETA folder announced one unread message. The count of my mentioned VF did not increase, neither did it announce any unread messages. Just like I described earlier. What I didn't notice earlier was that as soon as I viewed the message in my TBBETA folder, the count of my VF increased, just as it should have done when the message was received. So, all I know is that auto refresh is only broke when new messages are received and assigned a colour group by the NFS and the search criteria is colour group. It might be broke in other situations as well, but this is all I can confirm right now. 9Val, any ideas? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Boris, Friday, October 15, 2004, 5:56:39 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 17:15 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My VF set to use advanced filtering looking for colour groups does NOT auto refresh. After which action VF should be updated? I create a VF, same condition, but when I change the color group of a message VF is updated. When receiving a message. The problem seems to be the VF does not list newly received messages matching the search criteria. Can't confirm. I created a filter, which marks any message with a color group, and a VF which filters this or another color group: It works fine here. I receive nearly 300 mails and played arround with different conditions - I can't reproduce it. But maybe 9Val can? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:41:09 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 23:32, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Meanwhile, I guess I'll go back to the release version, I never thought I would be this dependent on VFs... Back to 3.0.1.33 and my VFs are working again, good it wasn't a permanent damage. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 2:20:32 PM, you wrote: Testing auto refreshing VFs. One of my VFs set to show messages sent by me didn't catch my last message to tbbeta until manually refreshed. I'll see if the same thing happens again. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test - Please Ignore
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 3:13:03 PM, you wrote: Hello Shemming, won't ignore! ;-) Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Testing and reporting
Hello 9Val, Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 4:52:48 PM, you wrote: Hello Günther, GE Can you maybe give us a hint how you like the reports most? E.g. when I GE first tried IMAP, it crashed with an AV. You want a screenshot of the AV GE (and an explanation when it occured) Explanation when it occured, if it will be non-reproducable address can help GE - to your PM address GE - to this list GE - in the bugtracker? Destination hasn't matter, it should be announced and should be non-forgotten. GE Just the text message of the AV? Or just the bug report? At least report, developer will ask additional information he needs GE When answering to an announcement of you, should the subject just be GE adjusted with a short description of the bug or should the references be GE deleted so that a new thread begins? To start new threads would be better So my point was to report and periodically ask to fix bugs, it is quite nervous when all are quiet and before release somebody says: Hey, I have a show-stopper here and it was for a long time, would you fix it? Or something like this: Hey, I don't like how program works at all. It is normal, when it is said after feedback from both sides, but it is abnormal (at least for me) after a long silence on this question from testers side. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 3:15:18 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 16:54, Boris Anders wrote: My VF set to use advanced filtering looking for colour groups does NOT auto refresh. After which action VF should be updated? I create a VF, same condition, but when I change the color group of a message VF is updated. When receiving a message. The problem seems to be the VF does not list newly received messages matching the search criteria. When they are listed, any manipulation of a message is reflected in the VF as well. I have a filter looking for message sent by me or containing @canit.se in the reference field. If matched, the filter assigns a colour group to the message (yes, this part still works). Until switching to v3.0.2.1 my VF looking for messages with this colour group assigned was automatically updated every time a message matching the conditions described above was received, now it isn't anymore. Hope that made the situation more clear. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:07:44 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 20:00, MAU wrote: MAU, I know you use colour groups extensively, do you use VFs filtering on these colour groups as well? Yes, 14 CGs at the moment. And yes, I do have a number of VFs filtering on some of them and everything seems to work fine here. However, please note that I have not upgraded/downgraded ;-) to 3.0.2.1 yet. For me it broke when switching to 3.0.2.1. Can you please install this version to give it a try? You could always go back afterwards. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:06:30 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 19:56, Boris Anders wrote: When receiving a message. The problem seems to be the VF does not list newly received messages matching the search criteria. Can't confirm. I created a filter, which marks any message with a color group, and a VF which filters this or another color group: It works fine here. Automatically updating your VF at once when the mails are received. Strange, as I said, I can reproduce on two different machines (both running W2K, but I suspect this isn't OS dependent). I suppose you are running v3.0.2.1? Your signature doesn't reveal, neither does your headers. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 2:38:33 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 16:20, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Testing auto refreshing VFs. One of my VFs set to show messages sent by me didn't catch my last message to tbbeta until manually refreshed. I'll see if the same thing happens again. I've done some testing. My VF set to use advanced filtering looking for colour groups does NOT auto refresh. Filter is set up like this: Colour is colourgroup1 OR Colour is colourgroup2 VFs filtering on age (advanced filtering) or Unread flag (fast search) still auto updates themselves though. Can someone confirm? MAU, I know you use colour groups extensively, do you use VFs filtering on these colour groups as well? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello MAU, Friday, October 15, 2004, 6:00:46 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, MAU, I know you use colour groups extensively, do you use VFs filtering on these colour groups as well? Yes, 14 CGs at the moment. And yes, I do have a number of VFs filtering on some of them and everything seems to work fine here. However, please note that I have not upgraded/downgraded ;-) to 3.0.2.1 yet. I haven't even had the time to think and decide if I want to participate in this beta cycle from the beginning. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Testing and reporting
Hello Günther, Monday, October 4, 2004, 5:52:09 PM, you wrote: Hei, 9Val wrote (and I removed the OT from the subject, because I think it on topic) Divide problems when it possible and we'll solve them part-by-part Can you maybe give us a hint how you like the reports most? E.g. when I first tried IMAP, it crashed with an AV. You want a screenshot of the AV (and an explanation when it occured) - to your PM address - to this list - in the bugtracker? Just the text message of the AV? Or just the bug report? When answering to an announcement of you, should the subject just be adjusted with a short description of the bug or should the references be deleted so that a new thread begins? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Testing and reporting
Hello Bill, Monday, October 4, 2004, 11:10:38 AM, you wrote: On Mon 4-Oct-04 5:38am -0400, Marcus Ohlström wrote: On Monday, October 4, 2004, 11:50, Bill McCarthy wrote: OK, I've reported this before but this time I've done some more testing. TB! is giving error messages - AV's - when mail is sent. Not always, but enough to annoy. The first thing I've done is to turn off the NAV checking of outgoing mail. What about outgoing filters (not that I've seen those AV's myself, but I guess it's relevant to track the problem down). Thanks for responding. No outgoing filters. POP3 or IMAP? POP3 - it was in my sig. Repeatable from all accounts or just one (if you have more then one)? Any folder related problems? Have you repaired and/or rebuilt you sent folder? No reported problems from folder maintenance. As far as testing other accounts, I no longer seem to have the problem. An interim beta appears to have fixed the problem. I've sent dozens of emails between many TB! sessions without a single AV. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PGP (Was: Re: test - Please Ignore)
Hello Stuart, Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 3:31:10 PM, you wrote: MM Hello Shemming, MM won't ignore! ;-) OK then, perhaps you can tell me why I can't get my new TB! install to use my PGP8 keys Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 2:45:14 PM, you wrote: On Friday, October 15, 2004, 16:38, Marcus Ohlström wrote: My VF set to use advanced filtering looking for colour groups does NOT auto refresh. Filter is set up like this: Colour is colourgroup1 OR Colour is colourgroup2 Confirmed on my second machine as well. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Testing and reporting
Hello Bill, Monday, October 4, 2004, 9:50:01 AM, you wrote: On Mon 4-Oct-04 4:00am -0400, 9Val wrote: Divide problems when it possible and we'll solve them part-by-part OK, I've reported this before but this time I've done some more testing. TB! is giving error messages - AV's - when mail is sent. Not always, but enough to annoy. The first thing I've done is to turn off the NAV checking of outgoing mail. I then sent 15 emails to me. Here are the results: No Problem Access violation at address 011C. Read of address 011C. Access violation at address 0088. Read of address 0088. Access violation at address 011C. Read of address 011C. No Problem Access violation at address 011C. Read of address 011C. Access violation at address 0090. Read of address 0090. No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem Hmm, seems to get better with time. I shut down TB! and tried again 10 times: Access violation at address 00C8. Read of address 00C8. Access violation at address 0538. Read of address 0538. No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem Seems to be just at the start. I repeated the process of shutting down TB! and performing 10 tests (mails to self). I did this 3 times and all 30 sent mails went out clean - now I'm really annoyed g Time to clear out my receiving and Sent Mail folders. None of these AV's has resulted in other strange behavior of TB! - I only closed TB! for testing. I'm turning my NAV back on for checking outgoing mail - I like the little confirming animation at the bottom of the screen :-) Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Boris, Friday, October 15, 2004, 2:54:21 PM, you wrote: Hello Marcus, Friday, October 15, 2004, 16:38 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My VF set to use advanced filtering looking for colour groups does NOT auto refresh. After which action VF should be updated? I create a VF, same condition, but when I change the color group of a message VF is updated. Can someone confirm? Not yet. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Testing and reporting
Hello Marcus, Monday, October 4, 2004, 10:38:13 AM, you wrote: On Monday, October 4, 2004, 11:50, Bill McCarthy wrote: OK, I've reported this before but this time I've done some more testing. TB! is giving error messages - AV's - when mail is sent. Not always, but enough to annoy. The first thing I've done is to turn off the NAV checking of outgoing mail. What about outgoing filters (not that I've seen those AV's myself, but I guess it's relevant to track the problem down). POP3 or IMAP? Repeatable from all accounts or just one (if you have more then one)? Any folder related problems? Have you repaired and/or rebuilt you sent folder? Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test - Please Ignore
Hello shemming, Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 2:49:21 PM, you wrote: Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Testing and reporting
Hello Bill, Monday, October 4, 2004, 9:52:54 AM, you wrote: On Mon 4-Oct-04 4:50am -0400, Bill McCarthy wrote: No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem Darn, I got another when I sent out that last mail - another pair of 88's: Access violation at address 0088. Read of address 0088. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Testing and reporting
Hello 9Val, Monday, October 4, 2004, 9:00:13 AM, you wrote: Hello All, Hmm, after some recent messages in list and in PMs I want to ask only one thing from beta-testers - *report* bugs you encountered *immediately* and provide more information and observations. Because: 1. It is quite surprizing to know, what bug persist, nobody reports it and it is like the dragon out of the blue when release time comes 2. Remember, that only providing more information and divide problems in small parts you significantly decrease bug-solve time. 3. Please, no abstractions like that part doesn't work, it is not the bug anybody can resolve. Divide problems when it possible and we'll solve them part-by-part Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test
Hello Greg, Thursday, October 7, 2004, 1:30:44 AM, you wrote: Hello , test Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Beer for every beta tester (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.01 RC3 is now available)
Hello Boris, Friday, October 1, 2004, 9:09:32 PM, you wrote: Hello Mary, Friday, October 1, 2004, 21:32 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 3.01 RC3 is now available I thought I'd test the new Wizards out - where are they hidden? They're gone! Tools drop-down menu is bare of them! Alexander K. said MaXxX should send a beer to each and every beta tester if they appeared in full release 3.01. Stand by for the party. :) But remember, you'll get only a cup of coffee :-) (JK). Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Beer for every beta tester (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.01 RC3 is now available)
Hello MFAS, Friday, October 1, 2004, 9:24:33 PM, you wrote: Hello Mary, Friday, October 1, 2004, 5:17:03 PM, you wrote: MB Actually, I like coffee a bit better than beer! :party2: The second beer is better than any cup of coffee I've ever had! Hey it's Friday. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Coffee or Beer for every beta tester [was ... Beer for every beta tester]
Hello Dierk, Saturday, October 2, 2004, 7:25:58 AM, you wrote: Hello Mary! On Friday, October 1, 2004 at 11:46:18 PM you wrote: Oh, what the heck, it's Friday! Just pour me a :batcoffee: and put a couple of tablespoons of Maker's Mark in it. :party: Why not make it some great Spanish Red, a fine glass of aged Rioja would suit me fine. Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Coffee or Beer for every beta tester [was ... Beer for every beta tester]
Hello Mary, Friday, October 1, 2004, 9:46:18 PM, you wrote: Hello Jim! On Friday, October 01, 2004, 4:24 PM, you wrote: MB Actually, I like coffee a bit better than beer! :party2: M The second beer is better than any cup of coffee I've ever M had! Hey it's Friday. Oh, what the heck, it's Friday! Just pour me a :batcoffee: and put a couple of tablespoons of Maker's Mark in it. :party: Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Beer for every beta tester (Was: Re: The Bat! 3.01 RC3 is now available)
Hello Mary, Friday, October 1, 2004, 9:17:03 PM, you wrote: Hello Boris! On Friday, October 01, 2004, 4:09 PM, you wrote: 9Val The Bat! 3.01 RC3 is now available ... MB Alexander K. said MaXxX should send a beer to each and every beta MB tester if [Wizards] appeared in full release 3.01. Stand by for MB the party. :) BA But remember, you'll get only a cup of coffee :-) (JK). Actually, I like coffee a bit better than beer! :party2: Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Coffee or Beer for every beta tester ...
Hello Mary, Saturday, October 2, 2004, 11:36:11 AM, you wrote: Hello Dierk! On Saturday, October 02, 2004, 2:25 AM, you wrote: MB Oh, what the heck, it's Friday! Just pour me a :batcoffee: and MB put a couple of tablespoons of Maker's Mark in it. :party: DH Why not make it some great Spanish Red, a fine glass of aged Rioja DH would suit me fine. Oh, yes! Cancel the bourbon coffee. I'll have a glass of that great red wine instead, and is there a little cheese to go with? :party2: Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Coffee or Beer for every beta tester [was ... Beer for every beta tester]
Hello Jurgen, Saturday, October 2, 2004, 7:29:08 AM, you wrote: Hello Dierk, Saturday, October 2, 2004, 9:25:58 AM, you wrote: On Friday, October 1, 2004 at 11:46:18 PM you wrote: Oh, what the heck, it's Friday! Just pour me a :batcoffee: and put a couple of tablespoons of Maker's Mark in it. :party: Why not make it some great Spanish Red, a fine glass of aged Rioja would suit me fine. Yes, a Castello de Ygay wouldn't be bad! Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
NFS: undo command does not function with dragdrop
Hello all, - copy a filter with dragdrop (Alt + 'drag') for example: from 'Incomming mail' to 'Read messages' - delete this new filter - cancel the action - an empty filter is generated WinXP/SP1 - TB! v3.0.1.33/v3.0.2.4 can someone confirm? then I will open a bugtrack -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
!29/10/2004, 22:58:53: SEND - Server reports error. The response
is: 5.7.0 {mp011} Sender address does not belong to logged in user
Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course
Apologies for this and other similar messages that have hit the list.
I've just opened TB on a spare machine here and discovered 80 identical
messages to the above in the outbox. Goodness knows how they got
there but they're now deleted.
--
Regards
Clive Taylor
Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush
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Aplologies to the list
Um! Sorry for all the messages from me. I've just opened TB on a spare machine here and, for some reason, all these messages were in the draft and outbox folders. Because its a broadband/IMAP connection the wretched things went. I don't know how they got there in the first place but I've now deleted all tbb tbi files in all accounts as well as deleting the contents of the folders on the server. Hope that sorts the problem. -- Clive Taylor 2600 3.0.2.4 Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [3.0.2.3] The Bat Hangs When New Mail Is Manually Moved To A Folder
Hello Simon Fincham everyone else 31-Okt-2004 10:56, you wrote: Using: The Bat Version 3.0.2.3 Rush The most recent beta is 3.0.2.4 - maybe you want to try with that version first (I don't know if there's anything else but IMAP fixes from .3 to .4 but anyway...) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: We Interface by X-Dream from the 2004 album 'We Interface' Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: undo command does not function with dragdrop
Hello Miroslav, - cancel the action How do you cancel the action? There is no CANCEL button on the Sorting Office. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: undo command does not function with dragdrop
Hello MAU, How do you cancel the action? There is no CANCEL button on the Sorting Office. 'Ctrl' + 'Z' or Edit » Undo -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: undo command does not function with dragdrop
Hello Miroslav, How do you cancel the action? There is no CANCEL button on the Sorting Office. 'Ctrl' + 'Z' or Edit » Undo I must admit I had not realised Edit/Undo was available. I will have to test it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: undo command does not function with dragdrop
Hello MAU, I must admit I had not realised Edit/Undo was available. I will have to test it. I found a BT who describes a similar problem, please confirm here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3807 -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:41:50 +0700 GMT (31/10/2004, 10:41 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: MP Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... :-( TF While your problem is not as sever as mine, I would consider a minute TF unacceptable too. Let me create that BT entry, I'll post the URL here. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4000 -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. - Bill Cosby Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Charlene, A reminder of what Charlene Ferrara typed on: 30 October 2004 at 15:53:21 GMT +0200 CF IMHO there is absolutely no need for this feature. Totally disagree, In have a few programs here that give exactly that option and I for one would welcome it. What I don't like are programs that don't give the option at all, like Incredimail that minimises to tray whatever. -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 31/10/2004 at 14:10 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Gunivortus, A reminder of what Gunivortus Goos typed on: 30 October 2004 at 16:09:35 GMT +0200 GG Well, obviously there is, else I wouldn't have asked for it. :-) I think it's a good idea. And Oh look, the smiley quoted as well! -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 31/10/2004 at 14:14 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Aplologies to the list
Clive Taylor [CT] wrote, I don't know how they got there in the first place but I've now deleted all tbb tbi files in all accounts as well as deleting the contents of the folders on the server. Hope that sorts the problem. Looks like to me that you might have an auto-response filter set up that you were testing and maybe forgot about? Just a guess, but every single one of those messages has the exact same line from you. -- Regards, Ron Secord Flying with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Under Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 ++ | Get Firefox - Rediscover the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=0amp;t=1; | ++ Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Tony! On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 8:14 AM, you wrote: GG Well, obviously there is, else I wouldn't have asked for it. :-) TB I think it's a good idea. As an option, I agree. TB And Oh look, the smiley quoted as well! Did here, also! Hooray, all my problems may now be solved! If the Edit/Undo choice in the Sorting Office turns out to be bug-free, that is. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Aplologies to the list
Looks like to me that you might have an auto-response filter set up that you were testing and maybe forgot about? Just a guess, but every single one of those messages has the exact same line from you. There might have been in the past - but the odd thing is that I was using TB on this machine last week without problems. Anyway, I've expunged TB completely from the machine now and I'll just use Thunderbird on it. That should do it! -- Regards Clive Taylor Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alternate icon sets
Hello Dick, A reminder of what Dick H typed on: 30 October 2004 at 17:28:57 GMT +0200 DH Don't understand the 'converted to bmp'. To my knowledge the file is already an DH bmp file. You just need to copy it to your TB program directory and be sure DH it's named 'glyphs.bmp'. Trouble with them is, they are the wrong size. I downloaded them, converted them but they don't display because the actual page size is wrong. Came into this thread with still over 100 mail to read so if it's been sorted ignore me, if not I'll get them working and post them up somewhere. -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 31/10/2004 at 17:00 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Tony Boom everyone else 31-Okt-2004 15:11, you wrote: Incredimail JEHOVA!!! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alternate icon sets
Hello Thomas, A reminder of what Thomas Martin typed on: 30 October 2004 at 18:58:35 GMT +0200 TM But don't change that one you installed, because the ini file refers to a png file. TM The old bmp glyph still work, but 99% are not updated for the NFS. What ini file? I can't find one. Someone said it comes with an ini file but mine didn't. It would help if I could understand what's on the site but I can't read Klingon :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 31/10/2004 at 18:06 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 31 October 2004 at 18:35:01 GMT +0100 ASK JEHOVA!!! Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 31/10/2004 at 18:14 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: alternate icon sets
domingo, 31 oct 2004 at 19:08, it seems you wrote:
What ini file? I can't find one. Someone said it comes with an ini file
but mine didn't.
3.x accept some advanced skining using a batskin.ini file
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Re: alternate icon sets
Hello Tony, It would help if I could understand what's on the site but I can't read Klingon :) at present there are two different ways to integrate an external user interface in TheBat! v3. 1. The author equipped the BMP file with the missing symbols for the NFS. In this case you do not need the INI file. The BATSKIN.INI may not be in the TheBat! directory! You can use this file also for version v1.x and v2.x 2. The author made a special glyph, which is integrated in TheBat! by the configuration file 'batskin.ini'. In this case you must copy both files *.PNG,*.BMP or *.JPG and the 'batskin.ini' into the TheBat! directory. You need the version v3.x to integrate this glyph. At present only 5-6 Glyphs are 100% compatible to the version v3. You can find v3 compatible glyphs here: » http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=128 » http://www.gaijin.at/tbglyphs.php » http://bat-mail.de.vu/minimal.html » http://bat-mail.de.vu/original.html -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alternate icon sets
Hello Miroslav, A reminder of what Miroslav Florensen typed on: 31 October 2004 at 20:12:35 GMT +0100 MFIn this case you must copy both files *.PNG,*.BMP or *.JPG and the MF MF'batskin.ini' into the TheBat! directory. MFYou need the version v3.x to integrate this glyph. Now I sussed it, I was right clicking and saving the image, didn't dawn on me to download them in zip format. No instructions on the site of what to do, well, not in English anyway. Thank you anyway for the info but after looking at over 60 different glyph files I didn't see any that look half as good as V3's inbuilt set. And why is unbuilt a word and not inbuilt? I think that's a major bug in the British dictionary! Maybe not a bug but certainly an error. I found 9 on line dictionary entries for inbuilt and only 3 for unbuilt. I've been a bricklayer working on building sites for over 25 years and never have I ever been asked to Unbuild something! Oooops, slight digression during the spell check, sorry :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 31/10/2004 at 20:13 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hi Mary, Sunday, October 31, 2004 you let us know -at least in parts- : As an option, I agree. Okay, as an option. Default factory setting must still be the regular closing! -- get happy Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X
Hello Charlene! On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 2:59 PM, you wrote: MB As an option, I agree. CF Okay, as an option. Default factory setting must still CF be the regular closing! Yes. Default factory setting must still be: X in Main window closes the application. Completely agree with you about this. We're on the same page here. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS Wrong Filtering
On Sunday, October 31, 2004, at 08:31:42 [UTC+1100] (Sunday, October 31, 2004 22:31 my local time) Ian A. White wrote: When the Recipient or Sender is used in a filter, what is checked? Is it the header or part of the body as well. Also, if there is more than one possibility, which one is used? Is it the first match or the last match? Similar bug (or feature?) and similar questions were added in thread beginning from mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Additionally, it may concerns last correction of bug described in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3928. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.7.4) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Odd filter and Unread folder problem
Hello tbbeta, I have noticed that I am having a problem in this version with messages arriving in my inbox and then not all being filtered to the proper folders. My situation is: Password protected account, not opened. Virtual folder that looks at this account for Unread messages. Mail is checked on startup and every five minutes. Most of the messages are to these lists. They are then filtered into a Bat folder. As the messages are being downloaded the Unread folder flashes up 1 Unread then back to 0 presumably as they are filtered into the Bat folder. Once all the messages are downloaded I noticed that there were Unread messages still showing in the Virtual folder, (which I could read)even though it is a password protected account. Upon opening the account I see that there are some messages that should have been filtered into the Bat folder still sitting in my Inbox. (Manual re-filtering will filter them properly). So there are two problems here. 1)I am able to read Unread messages in a Virtual folder that points to a password protected account. 2) All the messages are not being filtered. Anyone else seeing this in 3.0.2.4 . -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 55 shopping days left til Xmas. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: stuck cc and BayesFilter
Hallo Roelof, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:11:20 +0200GMT (30-10-2004, 13:11 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO Finally I got BayesFilter catching spam, but whenever it catches RO something my CC gets stuck. I disabled BF and everything is running RO smooth again. RO Sounds familiar to anybody? RO Haven't tried yet whether this behavior can be reproduced with other RO versions than 3.0.2.2 RO Doesn't happen for the latest beta. Unfortunately it does, it happened again. Had to kill TB four times before I was able to solve the problem by deleting BayesFilter. I guess I won't use it any more. Hundreds of duplicates. I guess anti-spam plug-ins aren't for me. -- Groetjes, Roelof WINDOWS is to computing what Etch-a-Sketch is to art. The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgph33G6pgcBv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
On Sunday, October 31, 2004, at 6:52:32 PM, Mark wrote: I have a filter with some 230 conditions. I did not have any problems opening/changing them with the OFS. Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... Excuse my ignorance, but what is NFS and OFS? I couldn't fine mention of either in the Help File? -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.2.4 Rush on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [the_bat] Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Sunday, October 31, 2004, 8:54:04 PM, (Internet Time - @162) you wrote: Hello Nick, NA On Sunday, October 31, 2004, at 6:52:32 PM, Mark wrote: I have a filter with some 230 conditions. I did not have any problems opening/changing them with the OFS. Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... NA Excuse my ignorance, but what is NFS and OFS? I couldn't fine mention of NA either in the Help File? NFS = New File System OFS = Old File System -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. I haven't posted for a while because it seemed that no one was having the long pauses that I was experiencing with IMAP. Someone (Allie, I think) suggested that they might be due to the large number of messages I have on the server. This seemed strange to me, since, with POP3, at least, users tend to rave about The Bat's performance with large message bases. Now, however, I can confirm others' reports of random long pauses when downloading message bodies. Like Clive, this has always been a problem for me. As I reported previously, I see similar, but even longer pauses (sometimes) when moving between folders. (TB! is set to not synchronize.) Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong message. These problems are so pervasive that, even though I finally broke down and paid for the upgrade, I still use The Bat only for testing new releases. I always end up going back to Thunderbird and Mulberry. I have also occasionally seen the behavior Martin reported of random disconnects when moving between messages. I haven't observed tasks getting stuck, but I'll be watching for this in the future. In addition, earlier today I had something VERY strange happen as I was reading a thread from one of my Yahoo groups. I was getting No message loaded for quite a few of the messages in the thread. This is something I've seen quite a bit, but it had always seemed to be random (and VERY frustrating). However, I discovered that when I looked at the same thread in Mulberry and Thunderbird, the problem messages were not listed at all in the message list. As I looked further, I found that I had two copies of every message. All were sent on October 19th. However, one copy of each, according to the Received column in TB! and Mulberry, was received on the 19th and the other was received on the 22nd. In each case, the copy received on the 19th was a problem message, while the one received on the 22nd was normal. Even more strangely, in each case, the bad message is shown as having been created/sent exactly two hours earlier than the good one. Any ideas on this one? As I investigated this problem, I also discovered a couple of interesting things I hadn't noticed before. First of all, I cannot find the Received date and time (in the Received column) anywhere in the message headers. Can anyone tell me where this information comes from? Since it's identical in both TB! and Mulberry, it must be in the message somewhere, but where? I also (as an off-topic comment) noticed that Thunderbird does not display all the Received: headers in the message, but only the first and last. This strikes me as very strange, because of the importance of these headers in tracking spam. I also continue to be frustrated that TB! does not allow threading on both references and subject. In my thread of six good messages, when I thread by reference, four thread properly and two do not, because they don't have reference headers. All six thread properly in both Thunderbird and Mulberry. Finally, I did something, and I'm not sure what, that caused even this imperfect threading to break. Now, instead of being broken into two threads, the twelve messages (good and bad) are now displayed in seven threads! Anybody know what might have caused this? I'll be anxiously waiting to hear from the IMAP experts! ;-) -- Keith Russell ...Scotty, beam us aboard. Aye, sir. Will a 2x4 do? Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading
On Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 11:49:01 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: I haven't posted for a while because it seemed that no one was having the long pauses that I was experiencing with IMAP. Someone (Allie, I think) suggested that they might be due to the large number of messages I have on the server. This seemed strange to me, since, with POP3, at least, users tend to rave about The Bat's performance with large message bases. IMAP is different from POP3. With POP3, you're working with a message base stored locally. With IMAP, your message bases are stored on the server. You keep syncing them with a local cache representation that needs updating to reflect what's currently on the server. Syncing a large message base takes longer than syncing a small message base. Now, however, I can confirm others' reports of random long pauses when downloading message bodies. Like Clive, this has always been a problem for me. As I reported previously, I see similar, but even longer pauses (sometimes) when moving between folders. (TB! is set to not synchronize.) OK. Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong message. Now that's really odd. I don't really have an explanation for such behaviour. These problems are so pervasive that, even though I finally broke down and paid for the upgrade, I still use The Bat only for testing new releases. I always end up going back to Thunderbird and Mulberry. I have problems with Mulberry. You're having problems with TB!. IMAP needs good client/server compatibility to work well. You may find that your client of choice depends on how well it works with your IMAP server. MDaemon, my own IMAP server is more TB! than Mulberry friendly. Lucky me. In addition, earlier today I had something VERY strange happen as I was reading a thread from one of my Yahoo groups. I was getting No message loaded for quite a few of the messages in the thread. This is something I've seen quite a bit, but it had always seemed to be random (and VERY frustrating). Quite often, the 'no message loaded' is associated with TB! being quite busy at working with its queue of tasks. You then have to wait for those tasks to complete. Unlike Mulberry and ThunderBird, TB! works via a single connection to the server. One of TB!'s future development plans is support for multiple connections to the server. However, I discovered that when I looked at the same thread in Mulberry and Thunderbird, the problem messages were not listed at all in the message list. As I looked further, I found that I had two copies of every message. All were sent on October 19th. However, one copy of each, according to the Received column in TB! and Mulberry, was received on the 19th and the other was received on the 22nd. In each case, the copy received on the 19th was a problem message, while the one received on the 22nd was normal. Did you try deleting your local cache for that folder/mailbox? As I investigated this problem, I also discovered a couple of interesting things I hadn't noticed before. First of all, I cannot find the Received date and time (in the Received column) anywhere in the message headers. Can anyone tell me where this information comes from? Since it's identical in both TB! and Mulberry, it must be in the message somewhere, but where? The received time in the TB! received column is the time the message was received by TB! and not the server. You'll therefore not see that time in the message header. I also (as an off-topic comment) noticed that Thunderbird does not display all the Received: headers in the message, but only the first and last. This strikes me as very strange, because of the importance of these headers in tracking spam. ThunderBird doesn't do a lot of things that we take for granted with TB!. I also continue to be frustrated that TB! does not allow threading on both references and subject. In my thread of six good messages, when I thread by reference, four thread properly and two do not, because they don't have reference headers. All six thread properly in both Thunderbird and Mulberry. Yes. I don't know when TB! will start threading using both subject and references. Finally, I did something, and I'm not sure what, that caused even this imperfect threading to break. Now, instead of being broken into two threads, the twelve messages (good and bad) are now displayed in seven threads! Anybody know what might have caused this? I pass on that. It's not like the messages changed, so the only explanation would be a change of the sorting. -- -= Allie =- . Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean? __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.2 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)
Re: Odd filter and Unread folder problem
Hello Stuart Cuddy everyone else 31-Okt-2004 23:03, you wrote: Anyone else seeing this in 3.0.2.4 . Yes, I've seen similar in 3.0.2.2 and 3.0.2.4 - but it happened only once in each version and I could not track down what might have happened. However, I can confirm that it happens with a VF - mine showed a message that did not match its filtering criteria at all, from a folder that was not even watched by the VF. Refreshing the VF did not help. It hasn't happened again ever since so I can't describe any better. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Shirley's Law: Most people deserve each other. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading
Rather than echo all of what Allie has said in his reply I can confirm that (unlike Allie) I can't rely on TB for everyday, real-world IMAP use. It's just so frustrating to wait for a couple of minutes for messages to display while TB churns away. I can see my router working so it's not a matter of the prog hanging. I've now taken to closing and reopening TB at intervals and making a cup of coffee while it loads and sorts out its message base. Not good. OTOH, Mulberry doesn't exhibit any of the IMAP issues here that TB does - and that's probably because it was designed primarily as an IMAP, rather than POP, client. With TB it's the other way round of course. Allie has the opposite experience, so resolving IMAP problems is probably going to be a compromise. I experience duplicate messages, too, on a regular basis. My largest message bases are around 2,000 messages (TB groups) but I experience these hangs even on an account with just a few hundred messages. No combination of synchronisation or cache deletion really helps. -- Regards Clive Taylor Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading
Hello, Allie. I thought I had sent this off an hour ago, and I just discovered SEVENTEEN copies in my Outbox! How did that happen?!!! And after trying again to post using TB!, I now have two more. :-( One has an icon in the second column; the second doesn't. (What is that, anyway?) As a result, this reply will be sent using Mulberry. On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 9:56:09 PM, you wrote: On Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 11:49:01 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: Someone (Allie, I think) suggested that they might be due to the large number of messages I have on the server. This seemed strange to me, since, with POP3, at least, users tend to rave about The Bat's performance with large message bases. IMAP is different from POP3. With POP3, you're working with a message base stored locally. With IMAP, your message bases are stored on the server. You keep syncing them with a local cache representation that needs updating to reflect what's currently on the server. Syncing a large message base takes longer than syncing a small message base. Of course. I meant to mention that, but forgot. I understand that performance will not be as good with IMAP as with POP3. The point I was trying to make, though, was that I would hope that TB!'s IMAP performance would compare as favorably to other clients as does its POP3 performance. However, where Mulberry and Thunderbird seem to be little affected by the volume of my messages, it does appear that The Bat! is. Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong message. Now that's really odd. I don't really have an explanation for such behaviour. So obviously, you haven't seen this. Has anyone else? I have problems with Mulberry. You're having problems with TB!. IMAP needs good client/server compatibility to work well. You may find that your client of choice depends on how well it works with your IMAP server. MDaemon, my own IMAP server is more TB! than Mulberry friendly. Lucky me. Good point. I hadn't thought of server/client compatibility. This means that if I change IMAP providers, as I may do in a few weeks, I could find the situation reversed. Interesting. In addition, earlier today I had something VERY strange happen as I was reading a thread from one of my Yahoo groups. I was getting No message loaded for quite a few of the messages in the thread. This is something I've seen quite a bit, but it had always seemed to be random (and VERY frustrating). Quite often, the 'no message loaded' is associated with TB! being quite busy at working with its queue of tasks. You then have to wait for those tasks to complete. Unlike Mulberry and ThunderBird, TB! works via a single connection to the server. One of TB!'s future development plans is support for multiple connections to the server. Yes, but of course Mulberry's big problem is lack of multithreading I did some experimenting tonight and found that reloading the message often displays the body. Is there a keystroke for that, so I don't have to navigate the menu every time? However, I discovered that when I looked at the same thread in Mulberry and Thunderbird, the problem messages were not listed at all in the message list. As I looked further, I found that I had two copies of every message. All were sent on October 19th. However, one copy of each, according to the Received column in TB! and Mulberry, was received on the 19th and the other was received on the 22nd. In each case, the copy received on the 19th was a problem message, while the one received on the 22nd was normal. Did you try deleting your local cache for that folder/mailbox? No, because I couldn't remember how. Can you remind me? I found a couple of messages in my Inbox folder tonight that exhibited the same behavior. Again, those with a received date corresponding to the sent date cannot be read. Copies of the same messages received on the 22nd are fine! I cannot find the Received date and time (in the Received column) anywhere in the message headers. Can anyone tell me where this information comes from? Since it's identical in both TB! and Mulberry, it must be in the message somewhere, but where? The received time in the TB! received column is the time the message was received by TB! and not the server. You'll therefore not see that time in the message header. I thought at first that this was the case, but the fact that the dates were identical for TB! and Mulberry threw me off, I guess. I'm guessing that I probably used Thunderbird for three days before I got around to checking out TB! and Mulberry again on the 22nd. I must have started them up at the same time so that the received date and times would correspond. I haven't been able to find the date Thunderbird received these messages, because the Date column seems to mean the sent date, and I don't know
