Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Keith, On 05-11-2004 08:53, you [KR] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: KR Michael Acklin wrote: These I-[ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message KR text Could -[ ] except messages smaller than [ ] K Bytes Not Find -[ ] Use precise counters (needs fast connection) KR Like Michael and Bernd, I wasn't able to find these, either. I KR had a little trouble tracking down some of the others, as well, KR since some are out of sequence. These are only available in the daily build from yesterday. KR 2.[X] Retrieve message structures together with message headers 9Val explained this to me yesterday: It retrieves information about all message parts (if it is multipart), and therefore knows about has message attachments or not KR 3.[ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text In newer builds - so that if a message is greater than n, TB! will not download attachments - a bit like the POP3 setting. KR 4.[ ] Use precise counters (needs fast connection) This will show the message count on the server and not the difference between server and cached count - doing away with * and n -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Hello, Peter. On Friday, November 5, 2004, 1:02:03 AM, you wrote: KR Like Michael and Bernd, I wasn't able to find these, either. I KR had a little trouble tracking down some of the others, as well, KR since some are out of sequence. These are only available in the daily build from yesterday. Ah...That explains it! KR 2.[X] Retrieve message structures together with message headers 9Val explained this to me yesterday: It retrieves information about all message parts (if it is multipart), and therefore knows about has message attachments or not Why would one not want this? KR 3.[ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text In newer builds - so that if a message is greater than n, TB! will not download attachments - a bit like the POP3 setting. So, in [ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text [ ] except messages smaller than [ ] K Bytes if I check only the first box, no attachments will be downloaded, and if I check the first two and put a number in the third, attachments will be downloaded only if the message is smaller than nK bytes? KR 4.[ ] Use precise counters (needs fast connection) This will show the message count on the server and not the difference between server and cached count - doing away with * and n I'm confused by this one. What does the * mean, anyway, and what is the difference between server and cached count? Thanks for the reply! -- Keith -- Keith Russell ...10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0. Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Hello all, Friday, November 5, 2004, Bernd Distler wrote: [ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text [ ] except messages smaller than [ ] K Bytes --- Where can i find this option? [X] Use precise counters (needs fast connection) --- Where can i find this option? this is under development and will appear in next build. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Keith, On 05-11-2004 09:29, you [KR] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: KR 2.[X] Retrieve message structures together with message KR headers 9Val explained this to me yesterday: It retrieves information about all message parts (if it is multipart), and therefore knows about has message attachments or not KR Why would one not want this? Idunno - as Homer would say :) KR [ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text KR [ ] except messages smaller than [ ] K Bytes KR if I check only the first box, no attachments will be downloaded, KR and if I check the first two and put a number in the third, KR attachments will be downloaded only if the message is smaller KR than nK bytes? Yes. Or this is how I understand it. There seems to be a distinct lack of documentation of (also) the daily builds. This will show the message count on the server and not the difference between server and cached count - doing away with * and n KR I'm confused by this one. What does the * mean, anyway, and KR what is the difference between server and cached count? If a folder looks like this: Folder10 9 It means that the server holds 10 messages for that folder but the local cache only holds 9. After sync it only says 10. I forget what * means. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
To, CC, BCC Fields
This strange behavior might have existed for a while, but I only noticed it today (in 3.0.2.4). I pasted a long series of comma-separated email addresses into the CC field. The strange thing is that whenever I click my mouse into that field with the purpose of editing the addresses, TB always goes to the very end of the series. It is very difficult to get to the beginning if I want to make a change there. I find the same behavior in the To and BCC fields as well. Can anyone confirm? -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: To, CC, BCC Fields
Hello Avi I find the same behavior in the To and BCC fields as well. Can anyone confirm? Yes I can - it is standard behaviour - and it is irritating. I'd like to see the whole addressing / address editing issue re-engineered as a coordinated beta program -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 3:47:52 AM [GMT -0500], Peter Fjelsten wrote: 9Val explained this to me yesterday: It retrieves information about all message parts (if it is multipart), and therefore knows about has message attachments or not KR Why would one not want this? Idunno - as Homer would say :) The more information you retrieve about a message, the more bandwidth is being used. So for slow connections, you should minimize what you retrieve in order to see what's on the server for reading. With Mulberry, the initial message information retrieved isn't enough for even threading. If I wish to thread, it retrieves more information for threading to be done. etc. If a folder looks like this: Folder10 9 It means that the server holds 10 messages for that folder but the local cache only holds 9. Actually, it's the other way around. x is the number of messages on the server and which hasn't yet been fully sync'd with what's local. After sync it only says 10. I forget what * means. That just means that there are messages on the server but the amount is yet to be determined. -- -= Allie =- . My mind ain't so open that anything can crawl right in. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 2:02:17 AM [GMT -0500], Peter Fjelsten wrote: [x] Check mailbox at start-up - I don't think these [x] Periodical checking each [5] minutes - actually do anything? The folder refreshing every x minutes simply does a server count refresh. Check mailbox at startup and the periodical checking will do synchronisations in the specified intervals and at startup. If none the folders are set to be sync'd then these options really shouldn't be doing anything. -- -= Allie =- . Read what I mean, not what I write. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Allie, On 05-11-2004 13:04, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM The more information you retrieve about a message, the more AM bandwidth is being used. So for slow connections, you should AM minimize what you retrieve in order to see what's on the server for AM reading. That makes sense. Maybe I'm just spoilt for bandwidth, so I've never noticed any big difference when I set stuff. It means that the server holds 10 messages for that folder but the local cache only holds 9. AM Actually, it's the other way around. x is the number of messages on AM the server and which hasn't yet been fully sync'd with what's local. I believe you - I just find it strange that there would be less e-mail on the server than locally before sync'ing. After sync it only says 10. I forget what * means. AM That just means that there are messages on the server but the amount is AM yet to be determined. OK. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 7:15:49 AM [GMT -0500], Peter Fjelsten wrote: AM Actually, it's the other way around. x is the number of messages on AM the server and which hasn't yet been fully sync'd with what's local. I believe you - I just find it strange that there would be less e-mail on the server than locally before sync'ing. At one location, you worked with the folder and deleted messages from it while doing so. You now go to another location, start TB! there and the local cache for the folder still contains those messages you deleted. As a result, the local cache contains more messages than are actually on the server. With the next sync operation, the old messages are deleted from the list and the cache. -- -= Allie =- . If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Allie, On 05-11-2004 13:21, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM You now go to another location, start TB! there and the local cache AM for the folder still contains those messages you deleted. As a AM result, the local cache contains more messages than are actually on AM the server. With the next sync operation, the old messages are AM deleted from the list and the cache. Yes, I know - but this one account I only access from one location (company account not accessible from outside the company network). Folder 1 10 Folder 2 10 If I move a message from Folder 1 to Folder 2 it now looks like this: Folder 1 10 9 Folder 2 10 11 - this must mean that the folders are not actually sync'ed until they're selected. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 7:39:52 AM [GMT -0500], Peter Fjelsten wrote: If I move a message from Folder 1 to Folder 2 it now looks like this: Folder 1 10 9 Folder 2 10 11 The move is carried out server side with the local cache being oblivious of what happened. The same happens with deletions and this is why on slow connections, the user deletes the message to see it still sitting there in the message list. It disappears from the message list only after it's deleted from the server. At least, that's what happens most of the time. :) - this must mean that the folders are not actually sync'ed until they're selected. This is true if you have the folders set not to sync or the periodic checking is disabled. -- -= Allie =- . There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. -Mark Twain __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Allie, On 05-11-2004 14:02, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: - this must mean that the folders are not actually sync'ed until they're selected. AM This is true if you have the folders set not to sync or the periodic AM checking is disabled. Or, that I am faster moving to another older than the server setting flags... :) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: To, CC, BCC Fields
Hello Graham, I find the same behavior in the To and BCC fields as well. Can anyone confirm? Yes I can - it is standard behaviour - and it is irritating. I'd like to see the whole addressing / address editing issue re-engineered as a coordinated beta program This is a long standing issue but, on the other hand, there is an alternative that many people forget about. You can click on the AB icon to the right most of each filed and you will see the list of addresses you have already included in each the To, CC and BCC fields. You can easily delete addresses there, as well as add new addresses from the AB or by directly typing them on the little window at the bottom. You can't directly edit one address that is already on the list though. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: To, CC, BCC Fields
Hello MAU This is a long standing issue but, on the other hand, there is an alternative that many people forget about. No we don't - but this mechanism is also flawed in that:- - You cannot paste addresses separated with newlines - you cannot move /copy LDAP searched for entries into you personal address book - you cannot get rid of the Foster, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you just want to view just short addresses - you cannot search across multiple address books at the same time - you cannot view the full properties of any address in a page/form view As you can see - I view addressing to be awful in TB - and (sorry to say this) Outlook does a much more intelligent job most of the time. -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: To, CC, BCC Fields
Hello Graham, This is a long standing issue but, on the other hand, there is an alternative that many people forget about. No we don't - but this mechanism is also flawed in that:- - You cannot paste addresses separated with newlines - you cannot move /copy LDAP searched for entries into you personal address book - you cannot get rid of the Foster, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you just want to view just short addresses - you cannot search across multiple address books at the same time - you cannot view the full properties of any address in a page/form view You may be right in all you say, but I though we were just talking about the inconvenience of including/editing many addresses in any of the To, CC or BCC fields. As you can see - I view addressing to be awful in TB - and (sorry to say this) Outlook does a much more intelligent job most of the time. I don't know. Outlook has never been installed on my systems. Enjoy the weekend :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Imagequality
Hei, Lars Sölter wrote: But having a state of the art preview option inside the attachment tabs of The Bat! would be fine too. Yeah, that would be fine. I think there should be standard routines available which do not just a resize, but a resample (speaking in the words of IrfanView, imho the best available viewer). If you have loads of pictures in a mail, it's more comfortable to scroll through these pictures within TB! than to open each one in the external viewer or save them all in a directory and view them from there. -- Automatic and free virus scanning with F-PROT, ROT13 and German FAQ: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm TheBat! 3.0.1.33, Windows 2000 SP4 German Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
testing 1 2 3
Hello TBBETA, Just testing a new account. -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 05/11/2004 at 17:24 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration
Hello Martin, IMAP Server: uw-imap Server OS: don't know, perhaps RedHat 6.?? Network: LAN(office)/DialUp 21.6kbits(home) TB! version: latest Automatically connect to server: At startup [ /X] (office/home) When account is selected [ ] For managing folders [ ] With any command [ ] [ ] Compress emptied folders automatically [ ] When inactive, disconnect after [ ] seconds [X] Retrieve message structures together with message headers [ ] Compress folders when switching to another folder [ ] Automatically disconnect after synchronisation [X] When on-line, refresh folders every [2] minutes [ ] Courier IMAP compatibility mode [ ] Auto filtering [X] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text [X] except messages smaller than [10] K Bytes [X] Use precise counters (needs fast connection) [ ] Check mailbox at start-up [ ] Periodical checking each [ ] minutes [ /X] Local Outbox(office/home) Total messages 20,000-25,000 (largest folder ~8,000 messages) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello All, Sorry, if it will be duplicate The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) [*] Scheduler: Automatic view for currently selected event [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' A little description for IMAP users: First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid of * and Second option is suitable for users who has slow connection and tired to wait downloading of message with big attachments Sounds on new mail became a little bit smarter and shouldn't trigger after filtering and manual operations !IMPORTANT! That's Maxim wrote about message base encryption: During the first run of The Bat! executable, if The Bat! home directory is not yet configured in the Registry, the program checks a registry value whether it has been installed by a Home Edition MSI or a Professional Edition MSI. In case of Professional Edition, The Bat! displays a dialog box whether a user wishes on-the-fly encryption. If you run a single .EXE-file not from the MSI, The Bat! will ask you what edition do you have. You can also enter the registration key and the program will extract the edition from the key. Please be aware that you can select to use or not to use on-the-fly encryption only during the clean install, i.e. there were no The Bat! previously installed. If you like to change on-the-fly encryption back or forth, you have to make full backup via the The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE wizard, remove The Bat! completely, including the Registry entries, run this beta and do the restore. Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE may not yet work properly. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello 9Val! On Friday, November 5, 2004 at 11:24:20 PM you wrote: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) From what I've seen in Maxim's note (cited by you) I'd say this is a little bit useless at the moment since no MSI installer has been published, yet ... I'd really like to see an option later on to enable message base encryption without having to do a clean install. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Wherever Germany extends her sway, she ruins culture. (Friedrich Nietzsche) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello All, The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) [*] Scheduler: Automatic view for currently selected event [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' A little description for IMAP users: First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid of * and Second option is suitable for users who has slow connection and tired to wait downloading of message with big attachments Sounds on new mail became a little bit smarter and shouldn't trigger after filtering and manual operations !IMPORTANT! That's Maxim wrote about message base encryption: During the first run of The Bat! executable, if The Bat! home directory is not yet configured in the Registry, the program checks a registry value whether it has been installed by a Home Edition MSI or a Professional Edition MSI. In case of Professional Edition, The Bat! displays a dialog box whether a user wishes on-the-fly encryption. If you run a single .EXE-file not from the MSI, The Bat! will ask you what edition do you have. You can also enter the registration key and the program will extract the edition from the key. Please be aware that you can select to use or not to use on-the-fly encryption only during the clean install, i.e. there were no The Bat! previously installed. If you like to change on-the-fly encryption back or forth, you have to make full backup via the The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE wizard, remove The Bat! completely, including the Registry entries, run this beta and do the restore. Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE may not yet work properly. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hi 9Val, On Saturday, November 6, 2004 00:24 your local time, which was Friday, November 5, 2004 at 22:24 my local time, 9Val 9Val [9] wrote; 9 [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' 9 First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and 9 fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid 9 of * and What do you class as a 'fast connection'? -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello testers, 9 Hello All, 9 The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I have a strange new entry into Options / Preferences called Anothe Setings What is this for ?? Are you sure of the spelling of these options ;-) -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | web : http://www.jranc.com |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 3.0.2.5 s/n 9360592E Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk, Friday, November 5, 2004, 11:46:33 PM, you wrote: DH I'd really like to see an option later on to enable message base DH encryption without having to do a clean install. I agree -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 12:22:34) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common sub-filters behave as filters
Hello MAU, I have added BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 Tested again with v3.0.2.5 and I can fully confirm the behaviour. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
[3.0.2.5] Bugs with creation of encrypted mail from original base
Hello all! I tested encryption new feature in TB! 3.0.2.5 Pro version and have bad impressions from this experience. Starting from 3.0.2.4 as original, I created backup of all settings, accounts, address books etc. Then, according to Maxim's advice, I remove The Bat! completely from my computer. I installed new version (3.0.2.5) in normal place (C:\Program Files\The Bat!) and run it. After a series of questions (I selected password in-fly protection) I was asked to decide either creation of new account or use backup copy of previous data. Of course, I select retrieving from backup, and then AV appeared: ,-- | Access violation at address 007D193C in module 'thebat.exe'. | Read of address . `-- I clicked OK, and it seemed all data were retrieved. It was not really, because The Bat! alerting me about error in reading archive file. Click on OK resolves that problem, but more serious problems appeared after retrieving. Here is what I get: 1. All messages on all accounts disappeared. Holders and account hierarchy is the same as originally. Account directories have their original names, but all directories associated with TB folders have new encrypted names. Message base files and configuration files have extensions beginning with E letter (i.e., .EBI instead of original .TBI). 2. Common filters are lost. 3. Account filters were retrieved I don't know from (they are the same as in Old Filtering System, all new filters are discarded). 4. Mail creation, sending and retrieving from servers work OK. 5. I have lost fonts setting for message list and folder view. Then I decided repeat all procedure without encryption. After removing TB!, and setting it again I did not have AV message. This time there were several errors during archive file reading, but messages were retrieved successfully. Account filters were retrieved correctly from backup, however the Replied messages common filter group lost its name, and any common filter was not retrieved. Such experiment was repeated three times with the same results. Now I work with all settings retrieved form external backup, not from The Bat!. I think such major change in program should be tested very thoroughly. It seems that internal backup system must be first re-worked to be useable and reliable. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.7.4) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.2.5: Account filters corrupted by Common filters
Hello all, I'll try to be as brief as possible by skipping some details and/or minor steps. I must start by saying that until yesterday (Friday) I had never before played with Common filters. Last night (a few hours ago) I upgraded to v3.0.2.5 and the first time I launched it I noticed that most messages received in this account, the one I basically use for mailing lists, had not been sorted to their respective folders and were all still in Inbox. What?!?! I went directly to Sorting Office and I found that some of my Incoming filters had been moved and/or replaced by other filters and sub-filters. A bit of a mess that I will more thoroughly analyse when I have more time because I have saved a copy of the SRB file. Instead of trying to correct the mess, I got the corresponding ACCOUNT.SRB file from yesterdays backup (which, BTW, had been working just fine all along Friday with v3.0.2.4) and replaced the corrupt one. I start TB again and go directly to Sorting Office and found that Incoming filters for this account (and only this one) were again corrupt. Although I didn't do an exhaustive comparison, the corruption seemed quite similar to the previous one. Again, I exit TB, replace ACCOUNT.SRB with the good one and start TB for a 3rd time and again a corruption. Then I remembered about the Common filters I was testing yesterday (see my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and took a look at them. Although they all were Not active they were still shared with _this_ account and only this one. The end of the story is, for the moment, that since I completely deleted the Common Incoming filters I have had no further corruption in account filters. I know it sounds strange and I have no idea or understand how can Common filters corrupt account filters as they are kept in separate SRB files, but what is true (seems to be true) is that only the account that was shared by Common filters was the one corrupted and that I have not observed any further corruption since deleting the Common filters. I'll do more testing and try to reproduce the anomaly if I have time during the weekend. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 7:31:09 PM [GMT -0500], Julien Ranc wrote: I have a strange new entry into Options / Preferences called Anothe Setings What is this for ?? Are you sure of the spelling of these options The spelling is definitely wrong. :) I'm not sure what they really wish to put there since, even with correct settings, it doesn't make much sense to me. It could be meant to be 'Other Settings' or 'Miscellaneous' where the settings that don't really belong to any of the other categories, would go. -- -= Allie =- . We are upping our standards... so up yours. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:26:45 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: The spelling is definitely wrong. :) I'm not sure what they really wish to put there since, even with correct settings, it doesn't make much sense to me. It could be meant to be 'Other Settings' or 'Miscellaneous' where the settings that don't really belong to any of the other categories, would go. And this brings us back to the question of the Ritlabs need for a technical writer - someone, who besides rewriting the help file, would be able to fix up the English in the GUI. So I hope it is not inappropriate to ask what is happening in this respect. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [3.0.2.5] Bugs with creation of encrypted mail from original base
Hello testers; ZW Hello all! ZW I was asked to decide either creation of new account or use backup ZW copy of previous data. Of course, I select retrieving from backup, ZW and then AV appeared: Same here, but with an additional error when selecting the .tbk backup file (not an AV) ZW ,-- ZW | Access violation at address 007D193C in module 'thebat.exe'. ZW | Read of address . ZW `-- Same AV here. ZW I clicked OK, and it seemed all data were retrieved. It was not really, ZW because The Bat! alerting me about error in reading archive file. Click on ZW OK resolves that problem, but more serious problems appeared after ZW retrieving. Here is what I get: ZW 1. All messages on all accounts disappeared. Holders and account hierarchy ZWis the same as originally. Account directories have their original names, ZWbut all directories associated with TB folders have new encrypted names. ZWMessage base files and configuration files have extensions beginning with ZWE letter (i.e., .EBI instead of original .TBI). Exactly the same. I stopped the experiment here, and reverted to an unencrypted version. -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 3.0.2.5 s/n 9360592E Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
