Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases? (was: Just some stupid remark)
DH Hello Gonalo! DH On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 10:12:59 AM you wrote: Personally I find that an annual fee wouldn't be a fair price DH How's that? Well, if I recall correctly, I purchase this software, I did not rent or leased it. DH In my experience most people find prices higher than zero unfair, DH at least for some things: Geiz ist geil! (Meanness is cool!) DH as one big electronics shop advertises quite effectively in DH Germany. I personally prefer those kind of softwares where you buy it once and get a license for every future version. I purchased several softwares in this category. In the category of those that must be 're-purchased' TheBat, TheBat Private Disk, among others. I bought this ones, because the price was fair but I'm not going to pay annual fees for sure. I would more easily go back to AK-Mail. DH Is it fairer to pay over ? 1000 for Photoshop this year and then DH pay up about 2/3 of that price after two years for an update, DH which features one long sought after feature? Probably that's why I'm NOT using Outlook and am using TheBat with it's minimal MS Exchange support, inserting my password every time I have to get mail (unlike MS Outlook), having trouble with the Exchange address book and so forth. Be sure, though, that if the time comes where I'll have to pay for TheBat like a Anti-Virus (annual fees) it will most likely go where my AVirus is - off my HD. Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- Stop the World! I want to get off! Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases? (was: Just some stupid remark)
Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, on 04-Dez-2004 at 10:31 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: Well, if I recall correctly, I purchase this software, I did not rent or leased it. I think you purchased a license that allows you to use the software, and not the software itself. Thats a difference. :) I personally prefer those kind of softwares where you buy it once and get a license for every future version. I purchased several softwares in this category. H. I know only two in my collection: Deliplayer and Total Commander, and even the licenses of those two do not include a guarantee for free future upgrades. In the category of those that must be 're-purchased' TheBat, TheBat Private Disk, among others. I bought this ones, because the price was fair but I'm not going to pay annual fees for sure. You have to look at the source of this discussion... what has happened since version 2... 1st of September 2003, v2 of TB was released and if you wanted to use it, you had to pay an upgrade fee. 1st of September 2004, v3 was released and you had to pay another upgrade fee. We're already paying per year, and I want to add that I do NOT like that. An official annual fee would be a more honest way of licensing, business ethics, that sort of thing. I would more easily go back to AK-Mail. And be stuck with the uncertainty if and when a new version will come. I'm an ex-AKMail User myself. Nothing against the programmer, but it is a hobby project and lacks to many features... to be honest, there's no way to go back. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Rotating Minds by JFC from the 2000 album 'Ambient Diary III - CD 1' Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases? (was: Just some stupid remark)
Hello Gonalo! On Saturday, December 4, 2004 at 10:31:25 AM you wrote: Well, if I recall correctly, I purchase this software, I did not rent or leased it. And? Every single sw I know using the subscription model (like BreezeBrowser after April 2003) don't stop functioning after the subscription period; you just don't have any rights to further fixes and upgrades. Is it fair to expect sw developers to get paid once but then provide unlimited fixes and upgrades? I personally prefer those kind of softwares where you buy it once and get a license for every future version. I purchased several softwares in this category. Which is exactly what I meant: Fair is it only when I pay a small amount and get everything I want. Yes, I do use sw like that, too, incl. my version of BreezeBrowser, which came out before Chris Breeze changed the payment model. I also use - if the application is worth it to me - subscription sw like F-Secure. Especially the last one can be defined as unfair since it will work after one year but cannot use new virus signatures (as told to me by their support). I actually don't think it is unfair to ask for new payment. BTW, my NG membership has to be renewed by paying up when one year (or two years, depending on your payment options) is over. In the category of those that must be 're-purchased' TheBat, TheBat Private Disk, among others. I bought this ones, because the price was fair but I'm not going to pay annual fees for sure. I would more easily go back to AK-Mail. Currently TB does not use subscription, and as I wrote above, you won't have to re-purchase (at least I don't think RL is thinking along lines of expiration codes) to use an existing (and purchased!) copy. Just for upgrades. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request If it don't kill you, it just makes you stronger. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases? (was: Just some stupid remark)
ASK Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, ASK on 04-Dez-2004 at 10:31 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: Well, if I recall correctly, I purchase this software, I did not rent or leased it. ASK I think you purchased a license that allows you to use the ASK software, and not the software itself. Thats a difference. :) Name it the way you want it, you bought your right, you didn't rent it. :) I personally prefer those kind of softwares where you buy it once and get a license for every future version. I purchased several softwares in this category. ASK H. I know only two in my collection: Deliplayer and Total ASK Commander, and even the licenses of those two do not include a ASK guarantee for free future upgrades. I count at least 7 in my collection. In the category of those that must be 're-purchased' TheBat, TheBat Private Disk, among others. I bought this ones, because the price was fair but I'm not going to pay annual fees for sure. ASK You have to look at the source of this discussion... what has ASK happened since version 2... It's not annual, they charge for major releases. It arguable if the enhancements they made justified a major release though... ASK 1st of September 2003, v2 of TB was released and if you wanted to ASK use it, you had to pay an upgrade fee. 1st of September 2004, v3 ASK was released and you had to pay another upgrade fee. We're ASK already paying per year, and I want to add that I do NOT like ASK that. An official annual fee would be a more honest way of ASK licensing, business ethics, that sort of thing. Well... maybe it's annual. :) But an annual fee would mean a change in the activation code, like Anti-Virus, that would have to expire to force you to buy a new one. I would more easily go back to AK-Mail. ASK And be stuck with the uncertainty if and when a new version will ASK come. I'm an ex-AKMail User myself. Nothing against the ASK programmer, but it is a hobby project and lacks to many ASK features... to be honest, there's no way to go back. to be honest, there's no way to go back.: Well, you see what I think about paying annual fees then... :) Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- Rule # 1: No man should be without a beer. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases? (was: Just some stupid remark)
Hello Gonalo! On Saturday, December 4, 2004 at 11:30:25 AM you wrote: But an annual fee would mean a change in the activation code, like Anti-Virus, that would have to expire to force you to buy a new one. Since when is their code changed? I use F-Secure for many years now and never did the version I bought stop working or disintegrate. In earlier years it just was illegal to get new virus definitions, then access was simply forbidden to download the definition files and now files may simply not be recognisable by older versions (you need an upgrade). If a program stops working I'd be as cheesed off as you seem upon the faint hint that TB may go subscription. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Agreement with a new idea means a listener has already had a similar thought and well appreciates that the speaker has recognized his idea. (Roger Schank) Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
Hello Gonalo, Saturday, December 4, 2004, 10:31:25 AM, you wrote: GF Be sure, though, that if the time comes where I'll have to pay for GF TheBat like a Anti-Virus (annual fees) it will most likely go where my GF AVirus is - off my HD. Are you running that from a CD RW, DVD RW or a USB-stick? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.10 MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 3:46:30) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
MP Hello Gonalo, MP Saturday, December 4, 2004, 10:31:25 AM, you wrote: GF Be sure, though, that if the time comes where I'll have to pay for GF TheBat like a Anti-Virus (annual fees) it will most likely go where my GF AVirus is - off my HD. MP Are you running that from a CD RW, DVD RW or a USB-stick? :-) I bought Tiny PF6 and I use SpyBot SD. So far it works like a charm! :) Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- Disk Failure: (A)bort (R)etry (T)ake hostages Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Loss of HTML and pictures as attachments.
Hello, I have a strange one, never happened before this am. I received a post that was HTML based with pictures that were a part of the HTML based post. I read all mail in Plain Text Micro-Ed. (in the pre-view pane) with the option to read in HTML. So my post will show up with tabs at the bottom for txt, HTML, (which will show all text and pictures) then a tab for each picture. I'm sorry, I'm going to guess they were jpg but since there gone I can't be sure. I did something different with this post than I usually do. I decided to use the right click option to copy and once to move the post to another account folder where I keep my jokes. At first I couldn't find the copied post in the new folder. So I tried the right click option to move the post to the same folder. Nada, but with persistence in trying to raise the scroll bar to the very top, all of a sudden they appeared. But, without any of the HTML or pictures. I thought well maybe since this is OTFE maybe the pics got stuck in an attachment folder in the original account folder. So, I proceeded to move the post back to the original folder. Still no HTML or pictures. I tried sending the post to one of my email accounts thinking the attachments might hook back up with the post and I could once again have the original post back in tact. Nothing. What is weird here is the post still shows it is 556,580 in size (original size)... When I sent the post it was only 5,287 in size. One thing I have noticed now the I have gone OTFE is that the option to keep attachments together or to separate the attachments into another folder is gone in all my account settings. So, where to attachments go now? I did try to use maintenance to fix the file - it shows damaged but has yet to fix the file or the post. -- Thanks, Dean 3.0.2.10 Windows 2000 5 2195 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
AV in Sorting Office
Hæ! I have just tried to delete an obviously duplicated filter (somewhere farther down the filter list) and got the attached AV. The duplicated filter was obviously created by TB, I did not duplicate the filter in question. I had to shut down TB via TaskManager and restart TB. Now the duplicated filter *and* the original filter are gone... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ attachment: av_sortingoffice.png Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid Pointer on read filter
Hello Greg, Saturday, November 20, 2004, 1:17:22 PM, Greg Strong wrote: I get the Invalid Pointer Error below: ,- [ On Read Filer ] | --- | The Bat! | --- | Invalid pointer operation. | --- | OK | --- `- Same error with same filter in v3.0.2.8. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid Pointer on read filter
Hello Greg, Saturday, December 4, 2004, 10:36:14 AM, Greg Strong wrote: I get the Invalid Pointer Error below: ,- [ On Read Filer ] | --- | The Bat! | --- | Invalid pointer operation. | --- | OK | --- `- Same error with same filter in v3.0.2.8. No error with same filter in v3.0.2.10. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, on 04-Dez-2004 at 12:14 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: I bought Tiny PF6 and I use SpyBot SD. So far it works like a charm! :) Its a risky game you play. Using TPF Spybot doesn't secure you from virus' or worms that exploit security holes in your browser, or some other software. If you, for example, were using IE last week to visit harmless websites that show harmless ads provided by falkag.de you're probably the victim of the bofra/iframe exploit. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Things always seem darkest just before the bottom drops out. -- Arthur Lifshin Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
ASK Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, ASK on 04-Dez-2004 at 12:14 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: I bought Tiny PF6 and I use SpyBot SD. So far it works like a charm! :) ASK Its a risky game you play. Using TPF Spybot doesn't secure you from ASK virus' or worms that exploit security holes in your browser, or some other ASK software. Maybe, maybe not. Did AV programs did any good to anybody who had them running when the Blaster/Welchia epidemy was wild? Do you know Tiny PF6? They this tech called Windows Security that intercepts registry, file activity, process creation and so forth. ASK If you, for example, were using IE last week to visit harmless websites ASK that show harmless ads provided by falkag.de you're probably the victim of ASK the bofra/iframe exploit. Don't know. I regularly patch my system! :) Oh, and I use Firefox! :) Best regards, Gonalo Farias -- Gravity: Not just a good idea, it's the law. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, on 04-Dez-2004 at 18:12 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: Maybe, maybe not. Did AV programs did any good to anybody who had them running when the Blaster/Welchia epidemy was wild? Yes. The moment the signature files were updated the worm was recognized and deactivated. Its the perfect example on why a firewall and spyware blocker is not enough. ASK If you, for example, were using IE last week to visit harmless ASK websites that show harmless ads provided by falkag.de you're probably ASK the victim of the bofra/iframe exploit. Don't know. I regularly patch my system! :) The iframe hole was patched 01-Dec... the exploit existed for at least 10 days. On 24-Nov I visited ebay with IE and my virus scanner blocked the above said attack, coming from ad-hoster Falk AG. If it weren't for the virus scanner I'd have a compromised system now. Oh, and I use Firefox! :) I normally use Opera, but its darn slow with the ebay pages and as a seller you can't use the ActiveX picture service with anything but IE. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The land belongs to the future... we come and go, but the land is always there. -- Willa Carter Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
Hello Gonalo, On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 17:12:47 + GMT (05/12/2004, 00:12 +0700 GMT), Gonalo Farias wrote: ASK Its a risky game you play. Using TPF Spybot doesn't secure you from ASK virus' or worms that exploit security holes in your browser, or some other ASK software. GF Maybe, maybe not. Did AV programs did any good to anybody who had them GF running when the Blaster/Welchia epidemy was wild? Not the AV program, but the firewall (KPF4) did its work over here at the time. Connection to an unusual port was reported, I denied several times until I finally got wise and blocked that port entirely, only to read the next day about Blaster. Back to the subject of this thread, my opinion is that Iwould agree to an annual fee in order to upgrade. I don't know how Christian Ghisler survives with giving free updates to his Total Commander. As a user, I enjoy that of course, but creators of software need to live as well. If the subscription fee is reasonable (and I look at TB's license fees and find them reasonable), that is. If you don't pay, you can still use the version you last paid for, for an unlimited time. -- Cheers, Thomas. SYMPTOM: Floor moving. FAULT: You are being carried out. ACTION: Find out if you are being taken to another bar. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 04-Dez-2004 at 20:07 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Back to the subject of this thread, my opinion is that I would agree to an annual fee in order to upgrade. I don't know how Christian Ghisler survives with giving free updates to his Total Commander. As a user, I enjoy that of course, but creators of software need to live as well. If the subscription fee is reasonable (and I look at TB's license fees and find them reasonable), that is. If you don't pay, you can still use the version you last paid for, for an unlimited time. Exactly. The difference is that RIT is a company that pays its programmers (at least I hope so *g*), and various shareware programs are based on part-time or semi-hobby activities. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 I'm afraid of losing my obscurity. Genuineness only thrives in the dark. Like celery. (Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963, British author) Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
ASK Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, ASK on 04-Dez-2004 at 18:12 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: Maybe, maybe not. Did AV programs did any good to anybody who had them running when the Blaster/Welchia epidemy was wild? ASK Yes. The moment the signature files were updated the worm was recognized ASK and deactivated. Its the perfect example on why a firewall and spyware ASK blocker is not enough. Sorry. My experience with the Blaster/Welchia was that having or not an AV running meant nothing because you had to patch the system in order to avoid further contamination. Having a firewall did in fact prevent the contamination because both worms would ping prior to contaminate. Again, do you know Tiny Personal Firewall (http://www.tinysoftware.com) ? ASK If you, for example, were using IE last week to visit harmless ASK websites that show harmless ads provided by falkag.de you're probably ASK the victim of the bofra/iframe exploit. Don't know. I regularly patch my system! :) ASK The iframe hole was patched 01-Dec... the exploit existed for at least 10 ASK days. On 24-Nov I visited ebay with IE and my virus scanner blocked the ASK above said attack, coming from ad-hoster Falk AG. If it weren't for the ASK virus scanner I'd have a compromised system now. I suppose you mean 2 of Dec to all systems that didn't already have WinXP SP2. Oh, and I use Firefox! :) ASK I normally use Opera, but its darn slow with the ebay pages and as a seller ASK you can't use the ActiveX picture service with anything but IE. :) Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- Hi, I'm Barney... BLAM! Now you're extinct. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
ASK Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, ASK on 04-Dez-2004 at 20:07 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Back to the subject of this thread, my opinion is that I would agree to an annual fee in order to upgrade. I don't know how Christian Ghisler survives with giving free updates to his Total Commander. As a user, I enjoy that of course, but creators of software need to live as well. If the subscription fee is reasonable (and I look at TB's license fees and find them reasonable), that is. If you don't pay, you can still use the version you last paid for, for an unlimited time. ASK Exactly. ASK The difference is that RIT is a company that pays its programmers (at least ASK I hope so *g*), and various shareware programs are based on part-time or ASK semi-hobby activities. :-) In my opinion they should diverse their software portfolio instead of over-charge their products. For instance, I would DEFINITELY buy MicroEd if they would make it a standalone editor. That way, the same piece of code would generate an extra income to RIT. Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- I live in a quiet neighborhood -- We use silencers. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?
Hello Gonalo Farias everyone else, on 04-Dez-2004 at 22:29 you (Gonalo Farias) wrote: Sorry. My experience with the Blaster/Welchia was that having or not an AV running meant nothing because you had to patch the system in order to avoid further contamination. Securing the system with a patch is required, yes. It was just an example. You never know which way malware strikes next, my point was that it is a good thing to have an up-to-date virus scanner. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Ma Wa'l Hob by Toires from the album '3D Vision Relax Module 01' Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
How Do I Keep IMAP From Connecting?
Hi, everyone. I hope someone can help me, because this is driving me crazy. I just changed my email provider. I have an IMAP account with my former ISP set up in The Bat!, but I can no longer log in. I downloaded all the messages from the server while the account was still active, and I want to be able to read them offline, so I have to leave the account there. But the login dialog keeps popping up (even when I'm working in another account). When it does, it's almost impossible to get rid of it. It takes numerous mouse clicks, which sometimes closes it normally and sometimes gives an access violation. Then a minute or two later, it's back again. In server settings for the account, under Mail management, Automatically connect to the server, I have nothing checked, yet TB! keeps tried to connect. Even now, as I compose this message in Thunderbird, this causes the login dialog, along with the entire TB! three-pane window, to pop up and obscure this composition window. I have to click 4 or 5 times to dismiss it before I can continue. The Bat! is unusable until I can resolve this issue. Since I haven't been using TB! regularly, I've probably forgotten about some obvious setting. If so, somebody please tell me what it is! I'm using 3.0.2.8, by the way. Reading about the various IMAP problems with later betas, I haven't dared to upgrade yet. -- Keith Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How Do I Keep IMAP From Connecting?
Clarification: I just timed it, and I'm getting the login dialog every minute, exactly. -- Keith Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
