Re: OT Re: Alpha icons
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JS No, it doesn't. (And even new versions of PNM2PNG dropped the support) So, in all of this talk, how can I change my glyphs? I've tried using the glyph set I had with my ordinary version 3 but only half of them seem to be recognised and I get the alpha glyphs for the rest, even if I completely delete the file, so there must surely be some icons embeded in there somewhere as well as in the icon file. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Update on the Status of Software
At 19:20 [GMT+0200] on Thursday January 20 (actual time - 1:20am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I've a lot of questions, but maybe one short (because they can be answered with yes, no or maybe) one: Are you planing another BugFixing-Beta cycle after the current cycle? Let us finish the current cycle first. Man, this just arrived at 1542 this afternoon!!! Weird. -- cheers, mic Depressed since he could not find a job, 42-year-old Romolo Ribolla sat in his kitchen near Pisa, Italy, with a gun in his hand threatening to kill himself in 1981. His wife pleaded for him not to do it, and after about an hour he burst into tears and threw the gun to the floor. It went off and killed his wife. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Update on the Status of Software
Hallo Mic, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:27:40 +0800GMT (28-2-2005, 9:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Let us finish the current cycle first. J Man, this just arrived at 1542 this afternoon!!! Weird. Yep, but it was a duplicate of a message that arrived here over a month ago. -- Groetjes, Roelof This is just one humble opinion, collect the whole series The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpzLsJSsur1J.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 01:23:50 GMT +0100 DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download DC feature completely off. Two buttons? One button would be enough. A message comes through that you want the images for, click the button. Next message you don't want to see the images, don't click the button. I see no reason to have a another button that turns a button on and off, you may as well leave it as it is and double click the html attachment, it'll be less effort. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 01:29:25 GMT +0100 DC You using Imad's version of PGP 6.5.8 by any chance? No, it true blue Network Associates PGP that I've had since before the big change over in ownership. Complete with PGPdisk that I never use. In fact I very rarely use PGP at all, I MIME sign and I bought Steganos 7 that I use more than PGP. DC IMAP is really great if you need to access your mail on multiple DC computers. It's like having 'webmail' features through your email DC client. Multiple folders and everything stored on the remote server. OK, OK, don't rub it in, I'm envious enough :) Not too envious to use Thunderbird though! -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello The, A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 05:06:07 GMT +0100 TFC Pocomail, incredimail, eurora, Express plus are all email TFC clients that their programmers don't code browsers TFC they all have great html supports too! Poco is full of bugs, I bought it. Incredimail is adware/spyware, I bought it. Express plus is very, very basic, I bought it. Eudora is well, same as Incredimail, adware... Not bought that, don't like constrained windows :) No doubt about it, The Bat! even without pictures is by far the best of the bunch. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT Re: Alpha icons
Hello Richard, A reminder of what Richard Wakeford on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 09:00:42 GMT +0100 RW So, in all of this talk, how can I change my glyphs? Not sure if Photoshop will do what you want. RW even if I completely delete the file, so there must surely be some RW icons embeded in there somewhere as well as in the icon file. I don't think there are. When a few of us first tried DA we had no icons at all until they posted the glyph and ini file. If you want to send me off list your glyph file and a description of what you want I'll try it with Photoshop and then unpack my DA version and try it. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Update on the Status of Software
At 10:10 [GMT+0100] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 5:10pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Let us finish the current cycle first. J Man, this just arrived at 1542 this afternoon!!! Weird. Yep, but it was a duplicate of a message that arrived here over a month ago. Ah, well, for some strange reason that no longer exists here on my system :-) -- cheers, mic Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 09:17 [GMT+] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 5:17pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download DC feature completely off. Two buttons? One button would be enough. It VERY clearly says 'check-box, not a button. As in something you set in preferences, so it will do what you want all the time. (If it matches the whitelist, or whatever. It's not like we haven't discussed this a little...) A message comes through that you want the images for, click the button. Next message you don't want to see the images, don't click the button. I see no reason to have a another button that turns a button on and off, you may as well leave it as it is and double click the html attachment, it'll be less effort. I think you've misinterpreted this entirely. (Or I have, I guess :-) -- cheers, mic This message was cruelly tested on small, furry animals. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Plugin keeps disappearing
Hi folks, I got a strange problem - I cant keep Achim's Bayes Filter Plugin installed: every time I restart TB! it forgets about it (nothing happens and it's missing from both Anti-spam and Plug-Ins lists under Options) and I have to add it manually again. Once added it seems to work just fine ... but why would TB! forget that the plugin was already installed? I'm don't have much experience with TB! plugins, I used to use BayesIt for a while (and with no problems), but it's been missing so much of obvious spam, that I decided to try Achim's one. Where does TB! usually keep its records about installed plugins? I looked through the obvious places in the registry, but found no related keys ... I'd appreciate any ideas. The Bat! 3.0.2.8 - 3.0.2.10, Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.2, Windows XP-SP2+, user is administrator, no funky software running that could block access to files, registry, etc. -- -Zann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Mic, A reminder of what Mic Cullen on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 12:03:49 GMT +0100 MC It VERY clearly says 'check-box, not a button. As in something you set in MC preferences, so it will do what you want all the time. (If it matches the MC whitelist, or whatever. It's not like we haven't discussed this a little...) Still a silly idea, one button is enough, pointless having a checkbox to turn a button on and off. You don't have checkboxes to turn the toolbar icons on and off. I would however like a checkbox to turn the X on or off so that it minimises instead of completely closing down. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 11:46 [GMT+] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 7:46pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC It VERY clearly says 'check-box, not a button. As in something you set in MC preferences, so it will do what you want all the time. (If it matches the MC whitelist, or whatever. It's not like we haven't discussed this a little...) Still a silly idea, one button is enough, pointless having a checkbox to turn a button on and off. You don't have checkboxes to turn the toolbar icons on and off. I would however like a checkbox to turn the X on or off so that it minimises instead of completely closing down. Well it's exactly the same thing. A checkbox to set a preference in a semipermanent way. Or have it removable from the toolbar - I'm sure nobody cares EXACTLY how it's implemented, and the effect is identical. I'd like the 'X' checkbox as well, but, of course, that's not how windows ran HISTORICALLY, so it's a pretty dangerous option, being able to alter things like that nowadays. :-) -- cheers, mic Every little bit helps. Every little quit hurts. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available
Hello Richard, I've loaded my alternate Glyph set from the previous TB! but it won't show it's own folder or address book glyphs. I've tried renaming GlyphsCollection and HTMLEditorCollection but still no use. the XML support still isn't implemented completely at the moment. To also exchange the missing folder symbols, TheBat! still needs the batskin.ini in the working directory. I have adapted the XML file and the INI file for my Minimal Design Glyph - it works as expected. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Mic, A reminder of what Mic Cullen on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 12:55:09 GMT +0100 MC I'd like the 'X' checkbox as well, but, of course, that's not how windows ran MC HISTORICALLY, so it's a pretty dangerous option, being able to alter things like MC that nowadays. So html email is historically OK is it? I think all this is quite a long way off at the moment so lets wait see what occurs eh? -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plugin keeps disappearing
Hallo Zann, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:16:18 -0800GMT (28-2-2005, 10:16 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Z I got a strange problem - I cant keep Achim's Bayes Filter Z Plugin installed: every time I restart TB! it forgets about Z it (nothing happens and it's missing from both Anti-spam and Z Plug-Ins lists under Options) and I have to add it manually Z again. Once added it seems to work just fine ... but why Z would TB! forget that the plugin was already installed? Did you maybe (partially) restore TB from CD? Check whether the TBPlugin.ini file in your mail directory is read only. -- Groetjes, Roelof How wise are they that are but fools in love! Cooke The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp0pJZOUeoZa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plugin keeps disappearing
Zann wrotes on 28/02/2005 at 20:16:18 +1100 subject Plugin keeps disappearing : I got a strange problem - I cant keep Achim's Bayes Filter Plugin installed: every time I restart TB! it forgets about it (nothing happens and it's missing from both Anti-spam and Plug-Ins lists under Options) and I have to add it manually again. Once added it seems to work just fine ... but why would TB! forget that the plugin was already installed? I use this version 2.0.2 without any problem. But I have seen some German people reporting the same problem like yours. I'd appreciate any ideas. The Bat! 3.0.2.8 - 3.0.2.10, Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.2, Windows XP-SP2+, user is administrator, no funky software running that could block access to files, registry, etc. Did you already try out the previous version of BayesFilter 2.0.1a ? There is no archive where you can find it, so I uploaded it here: http://www.oesterlin.de.vu/div/bayesfilter2.0.1a.zip Just replace the BayesFilter.tbp with the other one (preferably, make a backup of the file...) Please feed back if the version 2.0.1a will stay added in TheBat! -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.0.1.33 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 on Windows 2000 __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Mit Yahoo! Suche finden Sie alles: http://suche.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 12:01 [GMT+] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 8:01pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC I'd like the 'X' checkbox as well, but, of course, that's not how windows ran MC HISTORICALLY, so it's a pretty dangerous option, being able to alter things like MC that nowadays. So html email is historically OK is it? When you snip the smilie it changes the context immensely, as I'm sure you are well aware. I think all this is quite a long way off at the moment so lets wait see what occurs eh? Yep. -- cheers, mic In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts. So, in old England, when customers became unruly, the bartender would yell at them to mind their own pints and quarts and settle down. It's where we get the phrase,Mind your P's and Q's. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Mic, A reminder of what Mic Cullen on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 14:00:56 GMT +0100 MC When you snip the smilie it changes the context immensely, as I'm sure you are MC well aware. Sorry, forgot you like pretty little pictures BIG SMILE HERE -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony Boom On Monday, February 28, 2005, at 4:31:12 AM You wrote: TB Poco is full of bugs, I bought it. TB Incredimail is adware/spyware, I bought it. TB Express plus is very, very basic, I bought it. TB Eudora is well, same as Incredimail, adware... Not bought that, don't like TB constrained windows :) TB No doubt about it, The Bat! even without pictures is by far the best of TB the bunch. I was just mentioning that not all email clients dont have browser associated with ;) - -- The Final Cut Thebat: 3.0.2.10 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1rc2 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCIxcgmZdOAsVmU04RAlzRAJ4pfno9b9SHrQ8DkGgJ0D2yVp/9/QCgkqMH MIRaUyQsp0WaZoUKOQ6jvT0= =/qKs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Leif, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:18:58 -0700 GMT (28/02/2005, 00:18 +0700 GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: TF I thinnk most have left, because we don't even get replies to TF http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001762 LG It's sad too. Just in the time that I wrote my tutorial for validation LG I've gotten quite a bit of e-mail about it. This isn't something LG people just want, it's something people really need. Just like we need LG wheelchair accessible ramps to businesses, we need applications people LG with disabilities can use. True. That's why I am repeating it here. TF You are saying that it will be technically difficult to implement TF correct HTML rendering, and I don't doubt it. LG Only in the sense that it will be a huge investment of time in which LG RITLabs will have to recode the HTML rendering and eventually LG generation engines to keep up with out of control, rapidly evolving LG standards (not to mention even conflicting ones). I also believe that the standards are rapidly evolving (and conflicting) because they are not there yet. Wait and see what will come out is one strategy, trying to stay on top is another. Keeping blind users out of the loop and waiting until the standards have settled may find them comfortable with another email client. TF However, Tony says it;'s wrong from a philosophical / political TF POV to introduce correct renedering to TB. I see a difference TF here. LG There is a difference, but I also happen to agree with Tony. He'd just LG beat that horse to death, so I decided on a different tact. I see. TF That's OK, it's your choice. TB lacking this and having to open TF the browser is certainly bad for marketing, though. You mentioned TF above that Ritlabs is a for-profit organisation. LG So is Opera, and they're doing well. They adhere to much stricter LG standards when rendering HTML which means there are a lot of webpages LG out there that don't render as the author intended it. It will be a business decision over at Ritlabs then. -- Cheers, Thomas. To really annoy people, stand on a street corner, pointing a hair drier at passing traffic, and watch it slow down. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Goncalo, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:12:40 + GMT (28/02/2005, 01:12 +0700 GMT), Goncalo Farias wrote: GF Why not integrate, as an option, the IE engine into the TB? You don't GF want to use it, fine, stick with internal render engine. People who GF don't mind do as they want to. The problem is, with TB you are *forced* to use IE for rendering HTML messages correctly (by double-clicking on the attachment icon), if IE is your default browser. Problem being, they still won't render correctly if some of the images are sent with the messages and others are not. I'd rather have everything under TB's control. LG IMAP is part of e-mail. HTML isn't. Poor argument. GF It's not? Then I must hallucinating because I receive loads of HTML GF emails. Same here. HTML is part of email *today*. It may not have been 5 or 10 years ago, but please wake up, people. GF It may not be official but it SURELY is part of email current usage. It's official, according to the RFCs. Somebody prove me wrong, please. -- Cheers, Thomas. Man: Hey baby, what's your sign? Woman: Do not enter. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Mary, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:55:09 -0600 GMT (27/02/2005, 19:55 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB I am just one old-lady user. But I think perhaps there are others with MB my needs using TB!, or out there as potential users, and it would be MB so simple to respect this need of mine by having the capability OFF by MB Default. The whole discussion is about an option that will be OFF by default anyway. Some people (like my suicidal self) want to turn it ON by choice, but there is no ON because of philosophical reasons. And that's all we are talking about: Should there be a (hidden?) ON switch? That's the only question. If they (the powers that be) decide to agree, it won't be implemented anytime soon anyway, because they first have to figure out the IMAP thingy. -- Cheers, Thomas. Warum hatte Bach so viele Kinder, Kant jedoch kein einziges? - Weil Bach sich auf die Kunst der Fuge verstand, waehrend Kant nur das Ding an sich betrachtet hat. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
The Final Cut wrote: Hello On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 5:03:35 PM You wrote: The reason other players have good HTML support is that these other player also write browsers. They implement their browser into their e-mail product. Do I have anything against TB writing their own browser... Nope. Would I rather they spend the time making TB a better and more solid product for *e-mail*. Definitely. Pocomail, incredimail, eurora, Express plus are all email clients that their programmers don't code browsers they all have great html supports too! Incredimail at least DOES call the IE engine.. I don't believe Poco does though. Not really sure about the other two. Anyway, we were asked to drop the topic, so I think we should, or at least move to TBot. -- Dave Calvarese Member of E-mailaholics International PGP Key Available at http://home.comcast.net/~dhcalva/DavidCalvarese-DH.asc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Leif, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 09:52:18 -0700 GMT (27/02/2005, 23:52 +0700 GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: LG You've never heard of governors? They're on nearly every US military LG vehicle. And many high performance vehicles have them in case you loan LG your car to your kid. You put a key in, and enable the governor. *I am not a kid*. I want to be able to take out that governor. LG So let's look at it for people who are incapable of being a safe LG driver. They lose their license, they are put in jail, they are LG required to have interlock devices installed in their vehicles (drunk LG driving). Sure. What does that have to do with me? LG If people like us don't show objective reasoning as to why something LG isn't a good idea, then it's all going to become garbage. Good effort to keep TB in the nineties. GF Make an easy mode for 'rookie' users and a Power mode for power GF users. LG Yeah right. The first time a user has to turn on advanced mode just LG so they can see images in HTML messages, they'll have it enabled and LG then god knows what else they'll turn on. Thanks, dear nanny, from protecting me from myself. GF You don't really convince me that you hate that. In fact, you seem GF to like it alot. LG What because I don't want HTML in my e-mail. If that's all you're LG basing it off of, then you're right. I don't hate that TB doesn't LG support HTML fully. I don't hate TB either. But HTML email (wioth embedded tables or jpg's, for example) is a fact of life, and makes communication easier. LG For tech savvy users this is fine. I worked for AOL for a while in DSL LG tech support. I'm not going to say all AOL users are boneheads, but as LG a techy, AOL people scare the living daylights out of me! AOL is your benchmark? -- Cheers, Thomas. If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Tony Boom wrote: Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 01:23:50 GMT +0100 DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download DC feature completely off. Two buttons? One button would be enough. A message comes through that you want the images for, click the button. Next message you don't want to see the images, don't click the button. I see no reason to have a another button that turns a button on and off, you may as well leave it as it is and double click the html attachment, it'll be less effort. No, not a second button. A check box in your global prefs (or maybe even one on the account level) that totally disables the feature. For when kids are using TB! and may not show proper judgement in viewing remote images. -- Dave Calvarese Member of E-mailaholics International PGP Key Available at http://home.comcast.net/~dhcalva/DavidCalvarese-DH.asc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Tony Boom wrote: DC IMAP is really great if you need to access your mail on multiple DC computers. It's like having 'webmail' features through your email DC client. Multiple folders and everything stored on the remote server. OK, OK, don't rub it in, I'm envious enough :) Not too envious to use Thunderbird though! I use Fastmail for IMAP... They do IMAP Webmail. Best of both worlds. (They also do POP at the higher account levels). -- Dave Calvarese Member of E-mailaholics International PGP Key Available at http://home.comcast.net/~dhcalva/DavidCalvarese-DH.asc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Thomas! On Monday, February 28, 2005, 8:08 AM, you wrote: MB I am just one old-lady user. But I think perhaps there are others with MB my needs using TB!, or out there as potential users, and it would be MB so simple to respect this need of mine by having the capability OFF by MB Default. The whole discussion is about an option that will be OFF by default anyway. ... Some people don't want it OFF by Default (as in, the capability is not there, by Default unless the User chooses to Configure the capability through either a check-box in Preferences or a choice at Installation.) Tony, for example--unless I have misread him--wants it ON (the capability) with no choice to disable, and a button appearing in the Headers with which to choose at each message whether to Display or not. I can just see myself accidentally clicking on such a button and here comes my sister Sue's latest worm--I am dead serious here, Thomas, and not speaking ironically. Mic came to my defense and tried to explain it to Tony, but Tony rejected the idea even after Mic explained it. So, please, don't you misunderstand, also, Thomas. I am not quite as disabled as a blind person, but I am truly afflicted with a left-right orientation disability, part of the perceptual-motor configuration of my brain--sometimes referred to by the misnomer dyslexia. I don't want any functioning HTML buttons on my toolbar or in the headers. I want you, Thomas, and all those who have a need like yours, to have the HTML capability for use in business and otherwise, as soon as possible after IMAP has been made fully functional. Tony wants that too. But he wants to leave me at risk, with a button I could accidentally click on. Some people (like my suicidal self) want to turn it ON by choice, but there is no ON because of philosophical reasons. And that's all we are talking about: Should there be a (hidden?) ON switch? That's the only question. I want you to be able to turn it ON (as in, Configure the Capability) in Preferences (a one-time choice and not with every message as Tony seems to envision) or else as a Configuration choice at Installation (the situation now with TB! Pro's on-the-fly-encryption.) If they (the powers that be) decide to agree, it won't be implemented anytime soon anyway, because they first have to figure out the IMAP thingy. My fervent prayer is that this--Fix Bugs in Deep Alpha/Make IMAP fully functional/Make HTML suit the needs of those asking for it--will be the order of business!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Mary, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:43:52 -0600 GMT (28/02/2005, 21:43 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: The whole discussion is about an option that will be OFF by default anyway. ... MB Some people don't want it OFF by Default Well, I do. I just want the option to turn it on for manually whitelisted sender addresses. MB Tony, for example--unless I have misread him--wants it ON (the MB capability) with no choice to disable, I understood him differently, but he will speak for himself. MB I can just see myself accidentally clicking on such a button and here MB comes my sister Sue's latest worm--I am dead serious here, Thomas, and MB not speaking ironically. I see you, and the option would be somewhere under Options/Preferences/SomethingObscure, and I promise you will have trouble even finding and enabling it. ;-) Hint: It will be called Allow Sue's latest worm. But if you do enable it, I won't let you off the hook! MB I don't want any functioning HTML buttons on my toolbar or in the MB headers. No toolbar buttons, if I have any say in it. MB I want you, Thomas, and all those who have a need like yours, to have MB the HTML capability for use in business and otherwise, as soon as MB possible after IMAP has been made fully functional. Thanks. MB Tony wants that too. But he wants to leave me at risk, with a button I MB could accidentally click on. I don't think so, but Tony is old enough to speak for himself. MB I want you to be able to turn it ON (as in, Configure the Capability) MB in Preferences (a one-time choice Yep. But per sender-address, not generally. That's the meaning of whitelisting, as in the subject line. -- Cheers, Thomas. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Thomas! On Monday, February 28, 2005, 9:05 AM, you wrote: The whole discussion is about an option that will be OFF by default anyway. ... MB Some people don't want it OFF by Default Well, I do. I just want the option to turn it on for manually whitelisted sender addresses. I know. I was just explaining why OFF by Default still needed discussing. MB Tony, for example--unless I have misread him--wants it ON (the MB capability) with no choice to disable, I understood him differently, but he will speak for himself. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === MC It VERY clearly says 'check-box, not a button. As in something you set in MC preferences, so it will do what you want all the time. (If it matches the MC whitelist, or whatever. It's not like we haven't discussed this a little...) Tony: Still a silly idea, one button is enough, pointless having a checkbox to turn a button on and off. You don't have checkboxes to turn the toolbar icons on and off. === And before that: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download DC feature completely off. Two buttons? One button would be enough. A message comes through that you want the images for, click the button. Next message you don't want to see the images, don't click the button. I see no reason to have a another button that turns a button on and off, you may as well leave it as it is and double click the html attachment, it'll be less effort. = And before that: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === How about a button on the header pane that works on a per message basis. It only appears if the message is html and requires images to be downloaded. You click it, the pretty pictures appear and then it defaults to off for the next message? === MB I can just see myself accidentally clicking on such a button and here MB comes my sister Sue's latest worm--I am dead serious here, Thomas, and MB not speaking ironically. I see you, and the option would be somewhere under Options/Preferences/SomethingObscure, and I promise you will have trouble even finding and enabling it. ;-) Thank you. I appreciate the strong support. ;) Hint: It will be called Allow Sue's latest worm. But if you do enable it, I won't let you off the hook! LOL MB I don't want any functioning HTML buttons on my toolbar or in the MB headers. No toolbar buttons, if I have any say in it. Or buttons in the Message Header Pane? (Aside from the PGP/Mime button?) MB I want you, Thomas, and all those who have a need like yours, to have MB the HTML capability for use in business and otherwise, as soon as MB possible after IMAP has been made fully functional. Thanks. MB Tony wants that too. ... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == DC I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've said DC before, I agree that bug fixes should come first. I know, and you are right, html should be available for those that want it. === MB But he wants to leave me at risk, with a button I MB could accidentally click on. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === How about a button on the header pane that works on a per message basis. It only appears if the message is html and requires images to be downloaded. You click it, the pretty pictures appear and then it defaults to off for the next message? === I don't think so, but Tony is old enough to speak for himself. Well, he proposed the button on the header pane as an alternative to an On/Off check-box in preferences. Then he said he saw no need for the On/Off check-box in preferences if his proposed On/Off per message appeared in the View Folder-Message Header Pane. And called the idea of the Configuration On/Off choice silly. I realize he isn't saying leave Mary [per se] at risk but it comes to the same thing. MB I want you to be able to turn it ON (as in, Configure the Capability) MB in Preferences (a one-time choice Yep. But per sender-address, not generally. That's the meaning of whitelisting, as in the subject line. I know. That's the point at which your proposal and Tony's proposed substitute diverge. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600
Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available
Hello Miroslav, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MF To also exchange the missing folder symbols, TheBat! still needs the MF batskin.ini in the working directory. That I did not have so I copied it across and straight away the changes I had made to the Alpha icons showed up. MF I have adapted the XML file and MF the INI file for my Minimal Design Glyph - it works as expected. I then opened my own Icon set in Paint shop Pro again and exported it as png with the Alph and Transparency settings you suggested earlier and I now have my own full icon set back up and running. Thank you very much for your help. It's a continual learning curve isn't it? But then, so is life! -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plugin keeps disappearing
Hello Hendrik, There is no archive where you can find it you can find older versions of BayesIt and BayesFilter here: http://bat-mail.de.vu/antispam.html -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
Hello Goncalo, On Sunday, February 27, 2005 you wrote: Why not integrate, as an option, the IE engine into the TB? You don't want to use it, fine, stick with internal render engine. People who don't mind do as they want to. No. This would be a security flaw, and would influence not only the ones that turn the option on, but also the others. Besides IE's engine is quite old and relatively poor. Ritlabs used to use an external HTML viewing engine and dropped it. I'm not sure if they would be in favour of using another 3rd party software for that. If they did, however, I'm quite sure this should rather be Gecko -- since Presto is not embedable (I made this word up, sorry ;D). -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/ send_key in subject. /_ :Krzysztof_Trybowski: Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
A dead-horsed whitelist and alternative folders
--8-- Hello Beta-Bats, I promised some people to reply their mail (in the white-list thread) after the weekend. Since the subject has gotten a dead horse's body over it, I can't. Well, most has been said. --8-- The above is half of what had been saved from a message that was much longer when The Bat! decided, ONCE MORE, to unload itself. I'm not going to re-type what I had entered before TB! went on strike. Instead, and as a consequence, I'll write a new message with another subject. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 10:36:33) on Uno AMD Duron Installed Plug-Ins MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A dead-horsed whitelist and alternative folders
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 20:17 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'A dead-horsed whitelist and alternative folders' : Hallo Mark, MP Best Wishes, MP Mark MP using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 okay i'll go for that MP Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 10:36:33) on Uno AMD Duron I CAN'T go for that ;) MP Installed Plug-Ins MP MyMacros 1.11 okay whatever it is MP Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta that sounds great what IS it? MP zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 and that sounds superb! TELL ME ALL ABOUT IT! :-)) honestly I have anti-virus and anti-spam installed with thebat! What do these macro's do?? Are they usefull? Fun? Tell me! If OT, in private is fine I'll listen to you, I'm really curious. -- regards, Cees Ura Redneck if, You take a beer with you to a job interview. __ The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 20:26:40 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello All, 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta :-) is now available http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar It's an almost-ready Beta, but we cannot call it so because there are few omissions we know about, but we already need your help in finding quirks. Known issues are: - Toolbars/menus cannot be edited visually (although you may play with the .DEF files) - It's not possible to select character set and active account in the message editor with menu - SmartBat and MailDispatcher are not converted - Quick Search is limited in its functionality - manual formatting in MicroEd is quirky Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues not listed above. Thank you! -- Cheers! Stefan ...He whose face gives no light shall never become a star. - William Blake, English poet and artist (1757-1827) Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 21:14 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available' : Hallo Stefan, ST 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta :-) is now available ST http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar ST Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues ST not listed above. Thank you! link does not work. :( -- regards, Cees Art has to be forgotten: beauty must be realized (Piet Mondriaan) __ The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 21:23:32 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar 404 error I'm afraid Stefan. Any more clues? -- Graham Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Why I'm looking for a substitute for The Bat!
Hello Beta-Bats, Simply said: because it makes me lose too much time. Don't let me be misunderstood: I haven't found a substitute yet, but I am looking for a better solution, and, yes, I'm almost certain I will have to give up a lot of things that I do like and won't find elsewhere. I have asked before (and wrote it in the Bugtrack-whishlist) if it wouldn't be possible to make the choice of viewer on a folder-by-folder basis. For instance: in the folder where I collect the messages containing the XYZ-newsletter with embedded pictures, I could choose the HTML-viewer as the default one as opposed to most folders. As it is now, an extra click is needed for each message in order to select the html-viewer. Well, that's not a real problem. BTW: If one day it would be possible to let TB! download non-embedded images automatically, I think it would be a little bit safer if this could be done on a folder-by-folder basis, rather than with a whitelist, and NEVER in the inbox or SPAM-folders. Oh yes, as far as the remark it's so easy to click on the icon and view the html-message in my browser is concerned: consider this: - click to select the message - click on the attachment-icon - click on message-html - if the browser had not been launched yet : wait... wait... wait... - click on a popup-screen the system can't find the given file (translating) this is something that I first was confronted with when I made Opera my default browser for a short while. Since, I can't get rid of it. It's a warning that is given by The Bat! - click on the browser window to close the message - click on The Bat Icon to return to TB! and once more - click to select the message all of the above times 30 in order to view 30 messages that all come from the same, well known sender, all in the same folder. But, far more important than all of the above, is the fact that I'm fed up with all of the redundant work maintaining my address books as far as clients are concerned. Let's suppose that one of them changes his e-mailaddress: I have to change it in: - my Access-based database - Time Chaos - The Bat! I might as well get rid of my computer and buy myself a rolodex! :-( I haven't found a way to synchronise these. I know people will say that a shared database would make it a target for people with bad intentions. But unlike those people, I think that is a matter of securing that database better, rather than not develop the feature. As said before, I'm not leaving The Bat! yet. And of course, I whish I would find a solution that doesn't make me leave at all. Meanwhile I think I'l try out Barca and perhaps the Mozilla-combination. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 11:39:16) on Uno AMD Duron Installed Plug-Ins MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 21:17 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available' : Hallo Graham, G Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar G 404 error I'm afraid Stefan. Any more clues? and hopefully before I go to bed because I'm dead curious!! :-)) -- regards, Cees ADAM AND EVE VIRUS: Takes a couple bytes out of your Apple. __ The Bat! 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 21:40:46 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Dear Cees, ST http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar ST Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues ST not listed above. Thank you! C link does not work. :( Oops. Sorry, here is the working one: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tb30902.rar -- Best regards, Stefan ...Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 21:40 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available' : Hallo Stefan, ST http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar ST Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues ST not listed above. Thank you! C link does not work. :( ST Oops. Sorry, here is the working one: ST http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tb30902.rar thank you! ;-) it still does not remember my favorite location for the configuration- and quick-launchbar. Also I noticed an immediate start of spellingcheck? Never saw that before. Only in MS Word ;-) Btw... alt-F12 the shortcut keys... I REALLY miss them all my favorites any thoughts on that?? I'd like to get them back. ;) -- regards, Cees Life in a vacuum sucks. __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 21:47:38 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Dear Stefan, Just a quick note about translations: The new interface is now translatable with the new language files, just make sure the new Language Compiler executable is used... -- Cheers, Stefan ...A penny saved is a Congressional spending oversight. Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 21:52 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available' : Hallo Stefan, ST Just a quick note about translations: ST The new interface is now translatable with the new language files, ST just make sure the new Language Compiler executable is used... I'm sorry a little explanation? What language compiler? how/where ??? I maybe a computer geek, but I'm definately NOT a programmer... :-) -- regards, Cees Yes, you will be happy. You just won't know it, that's all. __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 21:57:45 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Dear Stefan, Just a quick note about translations: The new interface is now translatable with the new language files, just make sure the new Language Compiler executable is used... How should it be installed? On top of the regular program or separately? -- Mogens Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A dead-horsed whitelist and alternative folders
Hello Cees, Monday, February 28, 2005, 8:26:33 PM, you wrote: MP zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 C and that sounds superb! TELL ME ALL ABOUT IT! :-)) C honestly I have anti-virus and anti-spam installed with thebat! C What do these macro's do?? C Are they usefull? Fun? Tell me! C If OT, in private is fine I'll listen to you, I'm really curious. I don't use much of those (far less than I could), I'm merely mentioning them here in TBBeta, because they could possibly interfere with new features in Beta-versions. I should update UMC... Rather han trying to explain them I'll give you some URL's. Vermits de meeste Nederlanders wel Duits kennen (ook al kunnen ze elkaars bloed soms drinken) :-) : You will find a description/link to most of the macro-plugins at: http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?secid=16 Description of MyMacros macros: http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/list.html BTW: it took me some time before I dared to use the Zombie-plugin. I only installed it after other users/developers had contacted the author and thought it was safe to use it, that I did... TBPajs too is installed, but it doesn't have a macro to automatically display it's version number, so I forgot to include it. Same goes for fingerprint generator (which I still have to test). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.10 MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 13:5:6) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
glboal view
Het is maandag 28 februari 2005 en 22:04:42 uur : Hallo tbbeta, menu: View - global view will not be remembered after shutting down and firing up again. Same goes for character set - setting one as default. -- groeten, Cees If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 22:06:21 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello all, Monday, February 28, 2005, Mogens Holst wrote: How should it be installed? On top of the regular program or separately? it is an info for translators only. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Dear Stefan, @28-Feb-2005, 22:14 +0200 (28-Feb 20:14 UK time) Stefan Tanurkov [ST] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to All: ST Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues ST not listed above. Thank you! System-wide hotkeys not working. Threads not auto-expanding in views defined to auto-expand. Quick two for you there. PS - interesting. My default is to sign with PGP (okay, GnuPG). On completing the message, I was prompted to enter my *S/MIME* password, which was accepted. I checked the message in the outbox and it was signed with my PGP/MIME signature. Oops! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpHRZJGQYU77.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
installing plugin will not work
Het is maandag 28 februari 2005 en 22:19:30 uur : Hallo tbbeta, Mark Partous told me about a plugin. I've downloaded it but from Options - Preferences - Plugins, TheBat! will NOT accept the completely valid UMC plug-in file. No mather how often I try and select it, after hitting OK, it is NOT in the plug-in-list. Mark do YOU have any troubles with it? You may have not for having it installed a while ago. For me it is a NEW installation, and it will definitely not work on this new batty -- groeten, Cees NetBSD - better for your uptime than Viagra __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 22:24:21 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Stefan, A reminder of what Stefan Tanurkov on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 21:15:48 GMT +0100 ST Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues ST not listed above. Thank you! Won't run at all here. It cant load the userdepot.eni and exits. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Plugin keeps disappearing
Miroslav Florensen wrotes on 01/03/2005 at 04:51:15 +1100 subject Plugin keeps disappearing : There is no archive where you can find it you can find older versions of BayesIt and BayesFilter here: http://bat-mail.de.vu/antispam.html Thank you for the link! Unfortunately, there is just the version 2.0.1 available, not the fixed version 2.0.1a where I linked to. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.0.1.33 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 on Windows 2000 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
On Monday, February 28, 2005 @ 1:12:29 PM [-0700], Marck D Pearlstone wrote: System-wide hotkeys not working. Threads not auto-expanding in views defined to auto-expand. Confirmed here on both the above. -- Matt Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Marek Mikus wrote: Hello all, Monday, February 28, 2005, Mogens Holst wrote: How should it be installed? On top of the regular program or separately? it is an info for translators only. I don't understand what you say. Is the beta list or a translator list? If it is beta list, I would like to know how it should be installed. If it is translator list I should think a name change would be appropriate. -- Mogens Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Mogens, A reminder of what Mogens Holst on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 22:43:53 GMT +0100 MH If it is beta list, I would like to know how it should be installed. Just unzip it direct into the main TheBat! folder. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Tony, On Monday, February 28, 2005 at 21:25:56 GMT + (which was 22:25:56 where I live), Tony Boom wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available: Hello Stefan, A reminder of what Stefan Tanurkov on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 21:15:48 GMT +0100 ST Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues ST not listed above. Thank you! Won't run at all here. It cant load the userdepot.eni and exits. Same applies for meMaybe because we are using encrypted files? -- Best regards, Dick ___ Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.-- (Macbeth, Act V) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Mogens, Mogens Holst wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): it is an info for translators only. I don't understand what you say. Is the beta list or a translator list? Of course its a beta list, but maybe some beta testers are intressted about this informations too - other can ignore it :-). If it is beta list, I would like to know how it should be installed. What should be installed? Just ignore this message from Stefan. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: installing plugin will not work
Hello Cees, Cees wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Mark Partous told me about a plugin. Which version (maybe with direct download link)? UMC 1.8 works fine over here. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: installing plugin will not work
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 23:02 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'installing plugin will not work' : Hallo Boris, Mark Partous told me about a plugin. BA Which version (maybe with direct download link)? UMC 1.8 works fine over BA here. first link from this page: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid=16 2.0.1042 After that I downloaded that zombie plugin, and THAT installed immediately. Only thing is. I'm not understanding one bit of that... :) Been busy for a while just figuring out how to get the macro that should display Sonique information to work. If only people could write decent README's there isn't one included :( -- regards, Cees This is just a hobby. Perfection is not required. Fun is. __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 23:07:00 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
macro miseries turning me into a zombie
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 22:04 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'A dead-horsed whitelist and alternative folders' : Hallo Mark, MP Rather han trying to explain them I'll give you some URL's. MP Vermits de meeste Nederlanders wel Duits kennen (ook al kunnen ze elkaars MP bloed soms drinken) :-) : hehehe heb Duitse vrienden! ;) MP BTW: it took me some time before I dared to use the Zombie-plugin. MP I only installed it after other users/developers had contacted the author and MP thought it was safe to use it, that I did... okay I speak and understand Dutch, English AND German really! But THIS gives me a headache... : Die im Nachfolgenden aufgeführten Makros schreibe in eine Schnellvorlage, und rufe diese dann innnerhalb der Nachrichtenvorlage mit %QINCLUDE=Name_der_Schnellvorlage auf. Alternativ kann man auch den Namen der Schnellvorlage an entsprechender Stelle im Nachrichteneditor schreiben, und mit der Tastenkombination Ctrl + Leertaste bzw. Strg + Leertaste ausführen lassen. I've been reading this and rereading must be technical german. I just want that Sonique macro to work within TheBat! but it won't... This Zombie stuff really is turning me into a Zombie... I think I'm going to bed now. :-) -- regards, Cees Paramedics can revive anything. __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 23:12:33 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Stefan, Stefan Tanurkov wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues not listed above. - counter of threads do not work (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Filter's efficiency in per cent is still wrong (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) - kontext menu (menu which appears if you do a right click) of the accounts offers entries which don't work with accounts (e.g. refilter, browse, compress) - NFS: Hot Key Only isn't updated when Hot Key is disabeld - NFS: Statistics - Every time a message triggered, it's also displayed as tested - Can't find test filter in kontext menu (what's the english word for?) of a message. - NFS: Whats the Tag: for? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: installing plugin will not work
Hello Cees, Cees wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Which version (maybe with direct download link)? UMC 1.8 works fine over here. first link from this page: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid=16 2.0.1042 Can confirm - plugin can't be added. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: macro miseries turning me into a zombie
Hello Cees, Monday, February 28, 2005, 11:12:31 PM, you wrote: C I just want that Sonique macro to work within TheBat! but it won't... C This Zombie stuff really is turning me into a Zombie... I think I'm going to C bed now. Well, after your message I tried some of the macros. None of them work, except for the %ZVERSION. Oddly enough, it is only the original %ZVERSION that was already in the template that works... If I add a second one, on the following line, that doesn't work! Perhaps it's better to go to bed... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.10 MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 14:48:6) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: macro miseries turning me into a zombie
Hello Cees, Cees wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): But THIS gives me a headache... : I'll try. Die im Nachfolgenden aufgeführten Makros schreibe in eine Schnellvorlage, you have to write the following listed macros into a quick template und rufe diese dann innnerhalb der Nachrichtenvorlage mit %QINCLUDE=Name_der_Schnellvorlage auf. and call it with %QInclude=Name_of_Quicktemplate in a template up. Alternativ kann man auch den Namen der Schnellvorlage an entsprechender Stelle im Nachrichteneditor schreiben, Alternative you can write the name of the quick template in the right position of the (message)editor und mit der Tastenkombination Ctrl + Leertaste bzw. Strg + Leertaste ausführen lassen. and run it with the hot key ctrl + space I've been reading this and rereading must be technical german. Fear that my translation isn't better? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Dick, A reminder of what Dick H on TBBETA typed on: 28 February 2005 at 22:50:30 GMT +0100 DH Same applies for meMaybe because we are using encrypted files? That's the first thing I thought of but I'm not so sure. I'm sure others using OTFE have it running? Can anyone tell us how to get this pre beta to run please? I keep getting an error about userdept.eni not being able to load. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hi Stefan Tanurkov, 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta :-) is now available Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues not listed above. Thank you! I can't get it to work, it crashes after the splashscreen, I get two messages: first one is AV: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 0056B646 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 000C. --- OK --- second error msg: --- The Bat!: thebat.exe - Fehler in Anwendung --- Die Anweisung in 0x0056b646 verweist auf Speicher in 0x000c. Der Vorgang read konnte nicht auf dem Speicher durchgeführt werden. Klicken Sie auf OK, um das Programm zu beenden. Klicken Sie auf Abbrechen, um das Programm zu debuggen. --- OK Abbrechen --- I followed the instructions, unzipped the prebeta thus overwriting existing files in TB main folder, added the batskin file and had no luck. Reverted to last stable version, made a backup, uninstalled all and deleted the reg-files. Installed the 3.01.33, got back my messages, ran it once to test it (fine) and did it again: 3.09.1 prebeta crashes again. Where why am I wrong? -- regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Win XP Pro SP2, no macros, no plugins at this time. Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: macro miseries turning me into a zombie
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 23:34 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'macro miseries turning me into a zombie' : Hallo Mark, C I just want that Sonique macro to work within TheBat! but it won't... C This Zombie stuff really is turning me into a Zombie... I think I'm going to C bed now. MP Well, after your message I tried some of the macros. None of them work, MP except for the %ZVERSION. I was just busy trying THAT one out and indeed, that one works. MP Oddly enough, it is only the original %ZVERSION that was already in the MP template that works... If I add a second one, on the following line, that MP doesn't work! MP Perhaps it's better to go to bed... I think your right. Nighty night! ;) -- regards, Cees Bij een treinkaartje een GSM cadeau; kan je bellen dat het later wordt! __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 23:41:18 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: macro miseries turning me into a zombie
Het was op maandag 28 februari 2005 om 23:39 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'macro miseries turning me into a zombie' : Hallo Boris, But THIS gives me a headache... : BA I'll try. Die im Nachfolgenden aufgeführten Makros schreibe in eine Schnellvorlage, BA you have to write the following listed macros into a quick template und rufe diese dann innnerhalb der Nachrichtenvorlage mit %QINCLUDE=Name_der_Schnellvorlage auf. BA and call it with %QInclude=Name_of_Quicktemplate in a template up. Alternativ kann man auch den Namen der Schnellvorlage an entsprechender Stelle im Nachrichteneditor schreiben, BA Alternative you can write the name of the quick template in the right BA position of the (message)editor und mit der Tastenkombination Ctrl + Leertaste bzw. Strg + Leertaste ausführen lassen. BA and run it with the hot key ctrl + space I've been reading this and rereading must be technical german. BA Fear that my translation isn't better? I wouldn't say that! Been reading and rereading your reply, and you DO make sense! I suppose Strg + Leertaste would be for the Macintosh? And Ctrl+Leertaste, or ctrl+space in english is for the pc? Pity that quicktemplates don't work in this version of thebat. But I'll definitely will figure all this out when things fall into space and start working again. Thanks for your translation, I've copied your reply into my keep folder! You've been a big help. And nighty night see you tomorrow. -- regards, Cees Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever... __ The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0508-4, 27-02-2005 Tested on: 28-2-2005 23:47:48 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: installing plugin will not work
Hello Cees, 2.0.1042 use the UMC Version v2.1.1122, this version works correctly. You can also take the lite version UML v2.1.1119 (without GUI) or the latest UMX v2.2.1159. http://bat-mail.de.vu/download.html -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Why I'm looking for a substitute for The Bat!
Mark Partous [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Meanwhile I think I'l try out Barca and perhaps the Mozilla-combination. Barca.. Well I hadn't come across that before. Yes its very pretty and has lots of useful features. Couldn't get it to import my old Outlook Xpres files, but it did look pretty. (mind you - I couldn't get TB Pre-Beta to work at all - it just crashed) I'll keep my eye on Barca, and Thunderbird is getting there too. Thanks for the pointer -- Graham Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
On Monday, February 28, 2005 @ 12:14:39 PM [-0700], Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues not listed above. Thank you! Getting the Cannot create file c:\a.htm. The system cannot find the path specified error message on emails with html content. -- Matt Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bat 3.0 Sync with IPAQ Pocket PC
Tim Casten wrote: Hi tbbeta, Anyone have any luck sync-ing their Pocket PC with the Bat? Any Tips? Are you running TB! on a pocket PC? -- Mark Xandros 2.0 - Thunderbird 1.0 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello, Monday, February 28, 2005, 9:14:39 PM, you wrote: ST 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta :-) is now available ST http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30902.rar It is not possible to hide toolbars - after restart toolbars are visible again. -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.0.2.10, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 -- Tapety na pulpit! http://link.interia.pl/f185d Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
lunes, 28 feb 2005 at 21:14, it seems you wrote:
Please feel free to send your comments/reports about other issues
not listed above. Thank you!
I translated the new strings to spanish, and compiled the files with
the new compiler. I moved the new lng to the TB! folder but TB! don't
translates nothing when I select the Spanish language in
Options/Language
The status of the toolbars (show or hide) it's not saved
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Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
martes, 1 mar 2005 at 01:36, it seems you wrote:
I translated the new strings to spanish, and compiled the files with
the new compiler. I moved the new lng to the TB! folder but TB! don't
translates nothing when I select the Spanish language in
Options/Language
Sorry. It translated all except the menus.
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Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Marck, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP System-wide hotkeys not working. MDP Threads not auto-expanding in views defined to auto-expand. Confirm. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Prezes, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P It is not possible to hide toolbars - after restart toolbars are P visible again. Confirm but it's nice that, without the HTML toolbar, it is possible to get the text and toolbar menus on one line, thus saving space. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Prezes, On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 22:45:42[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 5:45 where I live) Prezes wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not possible to hide toolbars - after restart toolbars are visible again. plus, it can't remember where the toolbars used to be, after restart and all toolbars dock to its original design position, totally forgetting where I like to place them. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Address group photos no longer recognised
All rogue photos OK but no address book photos show. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Micro-ed settings all to pot.
Micro-ed settings were swapped with HTML settings! Much of Micro-ed still doesn't work : Spell checker Bottom icons Many menu items -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Stefan, On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 22:14:39[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 4:14 where I live) Stefan wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta :-) is now available In message editor, menu Privacy-Enable S/MIME does not work, and send with Sign when completed ticked will always request S/MIME, just ignoring that I didn't request send S/MIME. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] NetVicious, N Sorry. It translated all except the menus. For menus, restart of TB! is required now (a temporary feature). -- Best regards, Stefan ...Books are good enough in their own way, but they are a mighty bloodless substitute for life. - Robert Louis Stevenson Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Charlene, CF Reverted to last stable version, made a backup, uninstalled all and CF deleted the reg-files. Installed the 3.01.33, got back my messages, ran CF it once to test it (fine) and did it again: 3.09.1 prebeta crashes CF again. CF Where why am I wrong? How do you start TB! ? If you are using a shortcut, make sure the start folder is set to the folder with TheBat.EXE -- Regards, Stefan ...When I was a kid, my parents told me what to do. When I went to school, my teachers told me what to do. Now I'm married, and my husband tells me what to do. I'm not going to use a computer and let it tell me what to do. - Anonymous Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Dear Prezes, P It is not possible to hide toolbars - after restart toolbars are P visible again. This is actually the same thing as editing toolbars. It'll be working soon. -- Cheers, Stefan ...Copywight 1994 Elmer Fudd. All wights wesewved. Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello. confirmed. -- Best regards, Den V. Yafyasov. The Bat! v3.0.2.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
Hello Stefan, On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 22:14:39[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 4:14 where I live) Stefan wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta :-) is now available The view mode of New thread sorting does not work. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 3.0.9.2 Pre-Beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Pre-Beta is now available
On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 09:13:18 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, March 1, 2005 08:13 my local time) George M. Menegakis wrote: After launching The Bat! and giving password (I'm using on-the-fly-pwd) tb quits with the following error: Failed to load Users Depot (D:\Data\THE BAT\MailPwd\USERDEPT.ENI) Confirmed. However, after removing all beta registry branch (I am using reg:beta command line) The Bat! started. Unfortunately, it has troubles with importing data from backup and all the time it starts with new account creation panel. So, now it is useless for me. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski Current beta is 3.0.9.2 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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The Roguemoticon Project
It's nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them
to see yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish
to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site
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What this place will do for you is to allow you to create an
account, add your image and then let you download a .ZIP file
containing all the files you'll need to be able so see people's
faces without having to send or receive any real images in any
messages.
To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone
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How to use a signature trigger
The image is triggered by a 'Handle' you've defined in your
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For example:
:Leif_Gregory:
Just add this text to your standard message signature block.
How to create the X-Rogue: header
You can do that with this macro:
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%- in your templates for
this and other tb-lists.
However, the macro alone won't do the trick.
TB'll say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so
you'll have to define it as such:
Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add'
Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header
Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
RFC header: X-Rogue
Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the
header pane'
Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when
they've installed the roguemoticons.
For you to see peoples faces:
To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch
the following file:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip
Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images
You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many
images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.
Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch
TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.
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