Re: 10.5
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 4:36:10 PM, you wrote: > We have released The Bat! v10.5. On this work laptop (I am currently travelling), I received the pop-up stating that a new release version is available. So I clicked on "update", it downloaded and apparently installed the new version. As you can see in my sig, it still shows the old version. Seeing the bugs being reported here, I am quite happy that I am still with the old version, but it doesn't seem normal. On another note, shouldn't the new version have been beta tested before the release? Just asking. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.4.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 11:36:10, Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > 64-bit https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/nau_thebat_64_10-5.msi I'm still getting a crash on exit: TheBat64.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00410B59 in module TheBat64.exe Reading from location 06E05C50. AddrPC Params 00410B59 045D3CD0 045B 0454FA90 TheBat64.exe!0x10b59 00459A6C 045D3CE0 7FFB8B18 TheBat64.exe!__dbk_fcall_wrapper+0x3a3ac 00412B06 0454FB40 0454FB10 031905C8 TheBat64.exe!0x12b06 00412B88 17887950 179932D8 178878C0 TheBat64.exe!0x12b88 00412D3A TheBat64.exe!0x12d3a 0041352D 179930F0 179930F0 03188440 TheBat64.exe!0x1352d 004135FF 179FB4D0 0003 02359240 TheBat64.exe!0x135ff 02358E66 06E1C970 0454FE00 06DC4F50 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x1e91fc6 0089A4A6 179E0D60 0001 01F8CA80 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x3d3606 0089AA5A 06E1C940 168B4C01 0454FE60 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x3d3bba 02C67283 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x27a03e3 02C7D9AA TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x27b6b0a 7FFB8B19257D KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x1d 7FFB8BFEAA78 ntdll.dll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x28 -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The larger the project or job, the less time there is to do it. -- Old Engineer's Law TheBat! Version 10.5.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5
Hello Alexander, APvT> We have released The Bat! v10.5. APvT> Versions with the auto-update feature: APvT> 64-bit https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_10-5.msi since resolving the CEF issue (I simply copied the correct CEF version into the Program Files\CEF folder), TheBat! started showing large black gaps between menu items (see attachment). I am on a zoomed Hi-DPI display... The versions up to 10.5 and 10.5 with the previous CEF mismatch error Is there anything I can do? Thank you, best regards Viktor -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz TheBat! 10.5.0 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! Вы писали 05 октября 2023 г., 14:10:32: > On Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:20:20, Георгий, Белрус wrote: >> This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe >> (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). >> Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium >> can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 >> TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. > If you're using end-of-life operating systems, you have to accept that at > some point you'll have to keep using old programs, too. > Writing a HTML viewer is far from trivial, and there's a good reason that The > Bat switched from internal viewer to CEF (though I'd still prefer if Edge > WebView2 was used instead, since that gets security updates from the OS, so a > new TB release wouldn't be needed due to CVE-2023-4863). Internal viewer is alive. I don't see any reasons to block new viewer for Win7 users and using old. For receiving new versions and for "old users". Just tell it this to users who's intalling updates of TB into old OS. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
On Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:20:20, Георгий, Белрус wrote: > This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe > (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). > Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium > can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 > TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. If you're using end-of-life operating systems, you have to accept that at some point you'll have to keep using old programs, too. Writing a HTML viewer is far from trivial, and there's a good reason that The Bat switched from internal viewer to CEF (though I'd still prefer if Edge WebView2 was used instead, since that gets security updates from the OS, so a new TB release wouldn't be needed due to CVE-2023-4863). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The more campaigning, the better. -- O'Brien's First Law of Politics TheBat! Version 10.5.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.17 gives me error of wrong CEF version on Windows 10 / same with 10.5 over 10.4.0.17
Hi The On Thursday, October 5, 2023 12:58:06 PM you wrote: > I have an explanation of the immediate effect in the meantime: > there seems to be a mix-up between install folders. > To my, displeasure, since several versions TheBat! seems to install > into two folders: program files and localProfile/TheBat. (Why are these two > locations used anyway?) This is exactly what I observed - there are two different folders for CEF. -- Best regards, Martin mar...@postzone.org TheBat! 10.5.0 Pro (64bit, with OTFE) on Windows 10.0 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.17 gives me error of wrong CEF version on Windows 10 / same with 10.5 over 10.4.0.17
I have an explanation of the immediate effect in the meantime: there seems to be a mix-up between install folders. To my, displeasure, since several versions TheBat! seems to install into two folders: program files and localProfile/TheBat. (Why are these two locations used anyway?) Now, regarding CEF, there were two sources present: - program files/CEF had the version 103.0.12.0 - local profile had 1.2 GB worths of different versions (isn't that getting cleaned - waste-of-space-wise?), one of them the current one, 117.1.5.0 But TheBat! 10.5 seemed to only regard the program files/CEF location where the old one was present. When deleted, no CEF would be found. I had to manually copy the current CEF from local profile into the program files/CEF path. Which CEF location should TheBat! regard or prefer - and why is there the entire big historic collection in the local profile if it's not being used? Thank you, best regards Viktor , Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2023, 11:51:35: > Hello TBBeta, > sorry, I wasn't up to date and only noticed the 10.5 version now. > Unfortunately, even an install of 10.5 over the .17 beta gives me the CEF > error message. > Is there any way of deleting it so that a reinstall/repair replaces it? > Thank you & cheers > Viktor > Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:44:15 AM, you wrote: >> Hello TB-BETA, >> I haven't seen the 0.17 version here but found it on Batboard.net. >> Upon start, I get this message and various exceptions later: >> | --- >> | Error >> | --- >> | Unsupported CEF version ! >> | >> | >> | Use only the CEF binaries specified in the CEF4Delphi Readme.md file at >> https://github.com/salvadordf/CEF4Delphi >> | >> | >> | >> | Expected libcef.dll version : 117.1.5.0 >> | >> | Found libcef.dll version : 103.0.12.0 >> | >> On Batboard, some say that Windows 7 weren't supported by that version >> anymore - for that, I would suggest that TheBat! with that version doesn;t >> install at all if system preconditions aren't met. >> But my system ist Win10x64 >> Can anything be done with that version? >> Thanks & cheers! >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz >> TheBat! 10.4.0.17 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! > Thursday, October 5, 2023, 3:56:43 AM, you wrote: >>> Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: Hello The, BUG: Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 And you need to update your Requirements page at https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows >>> You are not alone: >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 >>> Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a >>> bug? >> RitLabs isn't a big brother and ugly monopolies, this is private >> company. I do think you need to have alternative for an old users >> with old OS to have new versions. What about some alternative >> html-viewers that don't care about Win7 with killing CEF installation for an >> old PC's? > The issue is being able to take advantage of new tech. There must come a > point where it is no longer > practical to support older os's. Some software providers have put out a last > version of their products for old os's that will > never be updated again. This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. As we know, in the future we will see TB for android, may be for linux too. Why all of that new and old OS'es won't be supported just because some idiots and bastards from monopolies decide that? Let them all fire in hell. This is RitLabs, not a some ugly vendors. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.17 gives me error of wrong CEF version on Windows 10 / same with 10.5 over 10.4.0.17
Hello TBBeta, sorry, I wasn't up to date and only noticed the 10.5 version now. Unfortunately, even an install of 10.5 over the .17 beta gives me the CEF error message. Is there any way of deleting it so that a reinstall/repair replaces it? Thank you & cheers Viktor Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:44:15 AM, you wrote: > Hello TB-BETA, > I haven't seen the 0.17 version here but found it on Batboard.net. > Upon start, I get this message and various exceptions later: > | --- > | Error > | --- > | Unsupported CEF version ! > | > | > | Use only the CEF binaries specified in the CEF4Delphi Readme.md file at > https://github.com/salvadordf/CEF4Delphi > | > | > | > | Expected libcef.dll version : 117.1.5.0 > | > | Found libcef.dll version : 103.0.12.0 > | > On Batboard, some say that Windows 7 weren't supported by that version > anymore - for that, I would suggest that TheBat! with that version doesn;t > install at all if system preconditions aren't met. > But my system ist Win10x64 > Can anything be done with that version? > Thanks & cheers! > > -- > Cheers > Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz > TheBat! 10.4.0.17 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 > > 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Hello Белрус, Thursday, October 5, 2023, 3:56:43 AM, you wrote: > Howdy! > Вы писали 05 октября 2023 г., 10:19:09: >> Howdy! >> Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: >>> Hello The, >>> BUG: >>> >>> Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 >>> And you need to update your Requirements page at >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows >> You are not alone: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 >> Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a >> bug? > RitLabs isn't a big brother and ugly monopolies, this is private > company. I do think you need to have alternative for an old users > with old OS to have new versions. What about some alternative > html-viewers that don't care about Win7 with killing CEF installation for an > old PC's? The issue is being able to take advantage of new tech. There must come a point where it is no longer practical to support older os's. Some software providers have put out a last version of their products for old os's that will never be updated again. > Best Regards, George Salnik > RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator > > 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Gleason 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.4.0.17 gives me error of wrong CEF version on Windows 10
Hello TB-BETA, I haven't seen the 0.17 version here but found it on Batboard.net. Upon start, I get this message and various exceptions later: | --- | Error | --- | Unsupported CEF version ! | | | Use only the CEF binaries specified in the CEF4Delphi Readme.md file at https://github.com/salvadordf/CEF4Delphi | | | | Expected libcef.dll version : 117.1.5.0 | | Found libcef.dll version : 103.0.12.0 | On Batboard, some say that Windows 7 weren't supported by that version anymore - for that, I would suggest that TheBat! with that version doesn;t install at all if system preconditions aren't met. But my system ist Win10x64 Can anything be done with that version? Thanks & cheers! -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz TheBat! 10.4.0.17 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! Вы писали 05 октября 2023 г., 10:19:09: > Howdy! > Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: >> Hello The, >> BUG: >> >> Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 >> And you need to update your Requirements page at >> https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows >> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows > You are not alone: > https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 > Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a bug? RitLabs isn't a big brother and ugly monopolies, this is private company. I do think you need to have alternative for an old users with old OS to have new versions. What about some alternative html-viewers that don't care about Win7 with killing CEF installation for an old PC's? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
Howdy! Вы писали 04 октября 2023 г., 19:38:13: > Hello The, > BUG: > > Installer does not warn about incompatible OS Windows 7 > And you need to update your Requirements page at > https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php#windows > https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php#windows You are not alone: https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/auth-forums/forum3/topic16158/message55642/?result=reply#message55642 Hey, RitLabs! Is is true and Win7 isn't compatible for 10.5 or this is a bug? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
