Re[3]: 4.0.24.26 - up running messages
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : A Actually, I don't think that it's very helpful at all to a A developer. Up and running on what kind of machine? How much RAM A does it have? What OS is it running? A I'm quite sure that RitLabs does BVTs before they release an A updated .exe and so they know that it's at least going to start A without crashing. Thus, the fact that it does start up on your A machine without crashing is of absolutely no surprise. Now, if it A were to crash on start-up, then that'd be something worth A mentioning. A Personally, I think it's waste of resources and time to have all of A these 'up running' messages. Thank you for your understanding. That was my point exactly but most people missed the point. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias When a cow laughs, does milk come out its nose? Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26 - up running messages
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : On Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:59:11 AM, Goncalo Farias wrote: Thank you for your understanding. That was my point exactly but most people missed the point. bickering about them for a week seems to have the same flaw R It seems that some prefer to spend hours bickering about the seconds R it takes them to read the up and running messages Or the minutes it takes to download pointless emails... especially if one doesn't have broadband... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Operator halted. Star Trek is on. Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26 - up running messages
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Or the minutes it takes to download pointless emails... especially if one doesn't have broadband... R and the hours spent uploading cranky and sour replies :) You find it fun... that spirit is more appropriate for TBOT. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26 - up running messages
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : You find it fun... that spirit is more appropriate for TBOT. R Why would that be? BTW you seem to have plenty of bandwidth to complain R and criticize individuals on this list - and to point out pointless R emails. R Why not just delete that which you find so offensive? Why don't you just beta test? For fun use TBOT. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Waldust - Powder that sticks to you when you lean against Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : R U R in Brooksville, Florida :)) R Shouldn't we shorten that to just UR? :)) Is that of any use at all? knowing that it's Up and Running and where? Do you think that running in a certain location is going to influence the beta test? I find interesting that HTML emails are forbidden but pointless ur emails aren't... I'm not attacking anyone... it's just my 2cents. R Sorry to offend you sir It wasn't your email, it's up and running emails in general. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I am Dirty Harry of Borg. Go ahead...resist us, punk! Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF I find interesting that HTML emails are forbidden but pointless ur GF emails aren't... RO Some remarks: RO UR messages aren't pointless. Sometimes there are versions that don't RO run for a minority (like OTFE users) without those UR messages it RO would appear that a version wouldn't run at all so others wouldn't try RO to install it. (That's just one example) They are pointless to the point where people are merely stating that they've installed that particular version. Adding the fact that people insert their physical location and it's pretty obvious that they're not really giving beta test input. They find it amusing, so you have a thread with a couple o people testing bugfixes and a douzen saying that they've installed the version and it runs (what else could be expected from a beta version?) RO HTML messages aren't forbidden. They're merely forbidden when the RO format doesn't add something to the content. I can remember a rather Exactly my point regarding the UR messages! RO recent thread with lots HTML replies, discussing TB's HTML replies. RO Entirely on topic. I have nothing against people saying that OTFE isn't running. RO The preferred place for discussion about the list rules is private RO mail to the moderation team. g,dr RO SCNR Sure. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Singers do it E V E R Y W H E R E ! Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MP Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:12:54 AM, you wrote: GF I have nothing against people saying that OTFE isn't running. MP OFTE isn't running over here. MP :-) Fine, with me! Let RL boys fix it! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Where's the ANY key? Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.26
R U R in Brooksville, Florida :)) R Shouldn't we shorten that to just UR? :)) Is that of any use at all? knowing that it's Up and Running and where? Do you think that running in a certain location is going to influence the beta test? I find interesting that HTML emails are forbidden but pointless ur emails aren't... I'm not attacking anyone... it's just my 2cents. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567 Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replying to an HTML mail
Title: Re[2]: Replying to an HTML mail In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I am confused. Obviously, the blue line is the main reason why TB! is unusable for HTML replies in the office, it's just too embarrassing. Stuart says his Quotes2 QT suppresses the blue line, I'll get back to him. Does anybody over here think that the blue line is good? Nah, I rather have it green. Seriously, remove the damn line and get the "text version" quotations marks in! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias "Humor. It is a difficult concept." -- Saavik Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Replying to an HTML mail
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Now wait a minute! I LIKE blue! :) It's that blocky line. I think the text version quotes would look a lot better. Just an opinion :) BR I like royal blue AND I don't mind the blue squiggly line or the BR thicker line. BR In all honesty, however, I don't recall what .html replies looked like BR in Outlook 2003, but I do recall that I liked its .html reply look as BR well. If I recall correctly, the reply was boxed with a thick black line. Damn fugly, IMHO! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If you can't fix it, sell it as a feature. Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.18
HI, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.24.18 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402418.rar Is it possible for TB! to accept an expired certificate when downloading messages from a TLS POP Server? For security reasons I agree it's not desirable but should be at the user's own risk to decide to connect or not. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Insanity is fun if you do it right. Current beta is 4.0.24.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply to All (TO and CC fields)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RO Hallo Carsten, RO On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:51:28 +0200GMT (6-6-2008, 10:51 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: CGS In a business environment it is crucial that people who are in CGS TO: stay in TO: and those in CC: stay in CC:, because that's a CGS huge difference! CGS Can this be fixed? Or is there a way to get around this bug CGS using templates? RO Use a quick template (or a default reply template) with something like Isn't that a work around? RO In order to do this real fancy, you should use some regexp to RO exclude the old sender in case he put his address in the old CC: RO header, but that's something you should manage yourself. RO To be honest, I like TB's current behaviour in this. It really doesn't do much sense, IMHO. I agree with Carsten it make all the difference (IMHO, not only in Business environments) who you send the message to and who you give notice of that. And when replying, is of good sense (at least) to keep it the same way. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I'm here because I'm not all there. Current beta is 4.0.24.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.17
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.24.17 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402417.rar MM What's new in 4.0.24.17 since 4.0.24.16: MM [-] (Beta) some fixes to the new drag-and-drop functionality MM [-] Fixes to Tray menu handing MM [-] (#0006931) Clicking tray icon when the main window was active did not hide the main window MM [-] Fixed a problem in S/MIME internal implementation: some MM S/MIME signatures gave Failed to parse PKCS#7 data object MM [-] Path to sound file to play in filters was not relative, this MM was an issue in Voyager and when restoring The Bat! to a new location MM [-] Path to auto-backup file was not relative (Voyager issue) MM [*] The Bat! key import from new formats of .PEM private keys MM [-] When importing S/MIME private keys with certificates in MM S/MIME internal implementation, The Bat! now supports all MM algorithms of PKCS#5 v1.5 format for private key file. I've seen a lot of focus on the SMIME implementation in the latest versions and almost none to recurring issues with TB, ie. IMAP. Is this going to stay like this? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The older I get the better I used to be. Current beta is 4.0.24.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MDP So do I. FYI, Vitalie is no longer a member here. Life is too short, MDP so let's discuss it no further. ;-) Hmmm... using the approach that he pointed out in that mid: ? :P -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Current beta is 4.0.24.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AS Don't forget that neither of us is here to please RIT, and that AS does (if not, it ought to) include you. This is not a fanclub. PVN We are here to help. I have never seen helpfulness in rude PVN vulgar language. We are here to provide feedback, either good or bad. In this case it's bad feedback. AS We are here solely because RIT failed to live up to its promises AS and does not show any indications on changing this behaviour in AS the futere. Do not confuse the guilty party here. PVN I didn't quarrel with the content. It was the delivery. Ritlabs PVN in one of the most generous developers I know, allowing unlimited PVN updates in a major version, always trying to make a better They just allow unlimited updates because the product is not good enough when they consider it a release. For instance, the first v4 got out of beta into release in less than a week when people were still pointing out several bugs. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias People have one thing in common: they are all different. Current beta is 4.0.24.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RZ Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: at in the near future? It's really frustrating seeing minor bugs being solved or new features being implemented while facing these serious issues for every new mail. RZ Carsten, so nice to see that I'm not the only one with this bug. RZ In general this particular bug still keeps me on thunderbird. I RZ think that our responses to new betas released could be: RZ Up and running but IMAP counters are still not fixed:) Please, don't do it. The programmers at RitLabs are very sensitive people and could reply something like this (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) to you. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Use the Force, Luke. Current beta is 4.0.24.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.7
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM Hello all, MM Friday, May 9, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.0.24.7 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40247.rar MM up running [!] The new editor for Quick Templates MM still some issues: MM - toolbars cannot be customised MM - as-you-type quicksearch in QT names don't work now MM - preview and spellchecking do not work MM - Find /Replace text do not work MM - checkboxes in columns are not clickable And a few more that are (sadly) present at least since version 4.0.11. On the HTML editor there is a toolbar with two buttons to insert column, one to insert left side and the other on the right side.[..] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 Not fixed! Addresses added to the Do not track list are still present in the list after a purge. [..] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6759 Not fixed! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I don't cheat, I play by the extended rules Current beta is 4.0.24.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.2
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.12.2 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40122.rar MM What's new in 4.0.12.2 since 4.0.12.1: MM [-] Major bug preventing working with IMAP accounts Bugs status: On the HTML editor there is a toolbar with two buttons to insert column, one to insert left side and the other on the right side.[..] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 Not fixed! Addresses added to the Do not track list are still present in the list after a purge. [..] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6759 Not fixed! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Only the lucky find life is two steps forward, one back. Current beta is 4.0.12.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML table commands reversed
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DH Hello, DH Nice work on v. 4, I love being able to see the images in my html mails. DH The insert column on the left/right buttons work in the opposite manner when DH working with an html table. If I hover over the button, it says insert collumn on DH the right, but inserts it on the left, and vice-versa. Also, the icons are DH inconsistent in this manner because the light and dark squares work opposite for DH inserting rows and columns. I already opened a bug report for that. On the HTML editor there is a toolbar with two buttons to insert column, one to insert left side and the other on the right side.[...] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias One man's folly is another man's wife. Current beta is 4.0.12.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.12.2
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF Bugs status: ST I really don't see usefulness of your reports. We cannot fix ST everything at once, I don't believe that you don't understand it. I think that at least one of the bugs I'm reporting is peanuts for you to fix. It concerns with two buttons that have their functionality switched. The other bug relates with a new functionality. If it's new and it's broken, then it shouldn't be there. It makes bad publicity. Anyway, I wonder if someone analyses the bug reports. Some are so obvious and apparently quick to fix that make me wonder about the criteria used to decide bugs priority. If you prefer not having me pointing out some easy fixes, fine. I'll stop tracking bugs and wasting my time reporting them at all... I'm not getting paid to this! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Just another wrinkle in the fabric of Time Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.1
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar Bugs status: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 Not fixed! https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6759 Not fixed! https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 Fixed! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The good of the people is the chief law. Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.11
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM What's new in 4.0.11.0 since 4.0.9.0: MM [-] Bug with starting a second copy on Windows XP MM [-] Fixed file associations https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 Not fixed. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6750 Fixed. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Life being what it is, I dream of revenge Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 4.0.11 - Address History - Do not track list doesn't work
Addresses added to the Do not track list are still present in the list after a purge. Also, after clearing the Address History List and doing Scan folders for more addresses, emails in the Do not track list are present. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6759 -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias A person without a navel lives within all of us. Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.0
Hi Maxim, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.12.0 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40120.rar MM What's new in 4.0.12.0 since 4.0.11.0: MM [-] Address History automatic search was case-sensitive https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 Not fixed. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6759 Not fixed. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 Not fixed. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I'd give my left arm to be ambidextrous... Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : VŠ Can we have an IMAP fixes now? ST Fixes? We are going to rewrite it almost from scratch :-) Now our expectations are sky high! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Catastrophes to others are everyday events to you. Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Autoindent?
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : V We need a smiling X-Rogue pic of yours :) Nice, nice, would be the possibility to set an avatar downloadable from the internet the same way TB now does with HTML messages. Either that or the possibility to embed the avatar in the message header. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Found on a door in the MSU music building: This door is ba Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.7
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.7 is available at The new Addresses History feature needs a small fix: In the message, the from field is received as: From: Decathlon Portugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] The address history is keeping an extra, unneeded character (). -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Didn't I buy a '51 Packard from you in Cairo???int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Editor - Insert column buttons
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : On the HTML editor there is a toolbar with two buttons to insert column, one to insert left side and the other on the right side. I would expect, but I may be wrong, that when putting a column on the right side would insert the new column at the right side of the current column. Instead the current column is put on the right side of the new column (thus, the new column is inserted on the left side). Issue added: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Damn it Bill, I'm an actor, not a doctor... Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting accounts and folders
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello all, M Does anybody else miss this functionality which was available till M 4.0.0.3 ? M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 YES! Definitely! Last time I've create a couple of folders I went back to 3.99.29 to sort them :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Swipple's Rule of Order: He who shouts the loudest has the Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.7
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
MM The Bat! 4.0.7 is available at
The new "Addresses History" feature needs a small fix:
In the message, the from field is received as:
From: "Decathlon Portugal" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The address history is keeping an extra, unneeded character (").
--
Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
Didn't I buy a '51 Packard from you in Cairo???
Issue submitted:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6750
--
Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
Calm down. It's only ones and zeros.
Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Goncalo's cookies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM Hello Tbbeta, MM Why are your cookies being cut off at one line? Is something MM missing in a template? Or, maybe a contest to see how clever we MM can make the rejoinder? Swipple's Rule could be finished: has MM the weakest argument. ;-) I guess my cookies are incomplete because the list I have from the time I was writing to BBS forums with OLX got truncated at column 72... Since the list has 176K+ I didn't have the courage to clean it up. :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Lean books are often larded with the fat of others' works Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : By adding few gradients you don't make a totally new program as stated in the announcement. The text editor is the core of an email client. The new MicroEd made v4 a totally new program, believe or not. V Agree. Alone the use of multiple speller engines/languages is V unique... And you did not mention that in your news release! (I think) True! That should be emphasized! Truly a unique feature. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I'd like to fly, but I can't even swim. Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0 news
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ST Hello Goncalo, GF It must be the shortest beta program ever! :) ST It was the longest *public* Alpha program, at least - in TB! history ST :-) Sure. And we give you credit for it. The issue here is that, IMHO, TB is not ready for release, it just got out of Alpha stage. Unless Alpha, Beta and Release really mean nothing about the development stages at RL. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Democrats in Congress: Oh no, not another calling frenzy Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ST We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so ST hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete ST showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to ST fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop ST after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like ST that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release ST (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a ST better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. View modes aren't working correctly. My reference threaded view mode is in Fig1. when I switch to another folders and get back I get what is possible to see in Fig2. This is a normal subject thread at best. It's the same folder. If I switch to another view mode and get back the view mode is applied. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Eternity may well be composed of a very deep silence.attachment: fig1.GIFattachment: fig2.GIF Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 4.0.0.20 - Problem sending s/mime signed message
Hi, Just got this sending an smime signed message with an attachment. --- Edit Mail Message - --- Access violation at address 00B7DFD5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 008C --- OK --- -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Welcome to PA! State slogan: Be Prepared to Stop Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.19
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF MicroEd doen't seem to honor my settings. ST In .20, you should see that layout setup is now a bit rearranged. I would say that it's weird! I see my text mode setting in SmartBat. I dislike that! What happened to the REAL text mode? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias This never would've happened if I were captain. þ Rikerattachment: 123.GIF Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.19
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF I would say that it's weird! I see my text mode setting in SmartBat. GF I dislike that! What happened to the REAL text mode? ST The real text mode is now transformed into unreal one :-) You can ST use profiles. Not exactly the same thing but with some customization I think I can live with it. ;) I wonder why the Plain Text Mode is still available: -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I like to reminisce with people I don't know. s.w.int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plain text/MicroEd settings (was: Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.19)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Vili, But WHY do you do that? M Assume that aside messages in English and in your own language you M also receive messages in Greek and Turkish, and these two display M better (to your liking) in Font M with Size X and Font K with Size M Y respectively. You can define a viewer profile for charsets Greek M and Turkish with your preferred fonts, sizes and colours and those M profiles will be automagically used when you view/display those M messages. Got it? Nope. I've define a new profile for my text messages. How will it be used automagically? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias SCAN 9.20V109: Found WINDOWS [Win] -- Remove it? [Y/n] Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi MM Please note the New MicroEd features (related to 4.0 in general, MM not particularly 4.0.0.22): MM - UNICODE support MM - using of all fonts available MM - possibility to use different fonts for different elements MM - system-wide drag-and-drop MM - Redo function MM - Multiple selections MM - spell checking for multiple languages at once MM - improved search and replace functionality MM - message signature highlighting MM - line sorting (Ctrl+K S when a [column] selection is available) view modes aren't working correctly. I've reported this since version .20 I have a tab named reference threaded that threads by reference. When I have it selected and change to another folder and then come back to the tab is still selected but the view is threaded by subject. Please see my msg under the subject Re: 4.0 news. Since I'm using Gmail I'm not sure if the msgid mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is valid. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The future is a convienient place for dreams- A. France Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi MM Please note the New MicroEd features (related to 4.0 in general, not particularly 4.0.0.22): MM - UNICODE support MM - using of all fonts available MM - possibility to use different fonts for different elements MM - system-wide drag-and-drop MM - Redo function MM - Multiple selections MM - spell checking for multiple languages at once MM - improved search and replace functionality MM - message signature highlighting MM - line sorting (Ctrl+K S when a [column] selection is available) Also, I'm still getting an AV when signing a msg with attachments using S/MIME. Without attachments it seems to work just fine. --- Edit Mail Message - Maxim Masiutin tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com --- Access violation at address 00B519A1 in module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 008C --- OK --- Check my previous post under the subject TB 4.0.0.20 - Problem sending s/mime signed message. Since I'm using gmail I'm not sure if the msgid mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is valid. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The meek may inherit earth. Those who dare, the stars. Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have a tab named reference threaded that threads by reference. When I have it selected and change to another folder and then come back to the tab is still selected but the view is threaded by subject. ZW Are you sure that your menu View | Global View Mode is set to (No ZW view mode)? I have no problems with all kinds of my view modes. I've just noticed this. It's set to no view mode. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias We'll always have Paris. [Now, just where did I put it?]int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have a tab named reference threaded that threads by reference. When I have it selected and change to another folder and then come back to the tab is still selected but the view is threaded by subject. ZW Are you sure that your menu View | Global View Mode is set to (No ZW view mode)? I have no problems with all kinds of my view modes. It seems to be an old feature. Version 3.99.29 has the same behavior. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The newest newsgroup on UseNET! alt.sex.aluminum.baseball Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ZW Yes, I see what the problem is. Frankly speaking, this is a ZW problem with message list tabs, not view modes. The selected tab ZW stays permanently highlighted despite the fact that it is no ZW longer active. Always, after jumping to another folder and ZW returning to the original, the view mode is reset to the one ZW originally associated with this folder. Using message list tabs ZW you cannot change the association between the view mode and the ZW folder. Yes, that's exactly the problem. May description wasn't completely accurate. ZW Please check what view mode is set for a given folder (clicking ZW the message list header by right mouse button). Does it change ZW after tab manipulation? No problem with that. I was expecting to see not the view mode defined for that folder but the one associated with the tab. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Ridicule is the burden of genius. Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation: Send Email with attachment + IMAP + S/MIME
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : D With last beta version (4.0.0.21), I have an access violation of the D bat! if I try to send an email with attachment and S/MIME enable for D signature: D Access violation at address 00B591D5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of D address 008C' D This is an IMAP account. No problem without S/MIME. No problem with D no attachment and S/MIME enable. D Seems to be a stopper for me... I confirme this AV. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You knew this job was dangerous when you took it! Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 4.0.0.19
Hello All, TB 4.0.0.19 is nice. I like the new feature. Nevertheless, I see some rough ends: MicroEd doen't seem to honor my settings. See the attached images. Another thing I've notice is that the buttons on the lower bar in the new message editor aren't always visible unless the bar has enough space. I wonder how this works in lower screen resolutions... Also, If I edit a message in the Outbox and hit the SEND button I get a: --- Edit Mail Message --- Access violation at address 00B7F171 in module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 008C --- OK --- -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias A liberal's generosity is limited only by your incomeattachment: newmessage.GIFattachment: microed_config.GIF Current beta is 4.0.0.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hello All, Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. Now, you can start throwing tomatoes. It must be the shortest beta program ever! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias What Do You Expect To Find Down Here? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Found it
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DC On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 3:00:50 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: M HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\SpellCheck I meant this one. Beer? :-) DC I copied that line into the search window and searched unsuccessfully Are you checking in th registry? If your answer is yes then I think copying that line to the search window won't help. You must search the registry tree for this path (I've cut off other entries): I hope this helps. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Blame your maker or blame yourself,but don't blame me.int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Found it
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Jernej, delete the registry key HKCU\Software\RIT\Speller There is not such key, which one do you really mean: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller HKCU is a common abbreviation for HKEY_CURENT_USER (the other 3 are HKLM, HKCR and HKU). M I know, my friend. Like we say in Spain, I wasn't born yesterday :) Definitely, that's not how you say in Spain :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The male sheep was badly cut, Tom rambled. Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Up and running. Spell checker working in Plain Text but not in HTML. EJM Not confirmed. The spell checker will not work in any version. Even EJM with all of the files from the zip file installed. EJM Jerry I Confirmed. Here is working as described... See the following screenshot. but it's not working at all when in HTML or HTML/Plain Text mode. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Damn it, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a tagline.int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Possibility to use wildcards in the download url manager
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : FC Using wildcards would be very easy to configure what to see and what not. FC I could say for example if image is under the domain www.example.com and FC includes */ads/* then always block, if image includes */template/* then always FC allow. TF Good idea. Put it in the wish list, I'll support. Where is that? Can you add the one time allow wish to it? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Used Taglines for Sale, gettem while their hot!! Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.9 ALPHA
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4009.rar MM [*] New viewer is being implemented - search in viewed messages no longer work. MM [-] URLs are broken in previous ALPHA - all signs in URL end up MM as #x0026; in the browser (Beta issue) MM [-] When an open or save file dialog is opened, the list of all MM file types registered in Windows is no longer listed in the dialog. MM [-] The spellchecker will work again with the given DLL. I'm getting this AV: -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias A cannibal only opens his mouth to change your feet.int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.9 ALPHA
Hi, While closing thebat. It's the last thing that happens before exiting. GF -- On 1/11/08, Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Friday, January 11, 2008, Goncalo Farias wrote: In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4009.rar I'm getting this AV: when? Current beta is 4.0.0.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M I also move 'old messages' to a folder in my password protected M Archive account. But I do this automatically by using the M Alternative deletion in the folder Properties. I have many M folders set up this way. I see what you mean. I was not aware of that alternative deletion mode. It's nice... maybe I'll give it a try. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Borg C++: Compiling is futile. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Now, if you are threading by Subject (like I am assuming you do), then M you are darn right and Ctrl+V does move the entire group in 3.99.29 and M it doesn't in 4.0.0.7. Yes, I'm threading by subject. You're completely right. M But that is only if you are threading by subject and you select the M 'name of the group'. If you select any actual message in the group, only that M message is moved. M When threading by Reference, like I do in 99.99% of my folders, then M Ctrl+V does only move the first message of the thread (if that's the one M selected), and this is so in 3.99.29 and 4.0.0.x. Ok, point taken. M Now, no matter if threading by Subject or by Reference, if you select M ANY message in a thread (or group) and you use Shift+Ctrl+V, the entire M thread (or group) will be moved. And this was so in 3.99.29 and still is M so in 4.0.0.7. Ok. M With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 (and M previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the buggy one, M and that it is working correctly now. It's just my opinion. I disagree! :) Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject *group* or a reference *thread*. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I invented a cordless extension cord. s.w. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. MM no, Ctrl+V moves selected message or messages only, not messages in MM thread! then I must have been using a bug all this time. See my attachments. This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? MM there is entry Thread and functions for working with thread are there. Again, see the screenshots I sent. You see what the context menu show and I assure you that I ALWAYS have used CTRL+V to move both single messages and complete threads. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't get mad, get even. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M With all of this, my opinion is that the behaviour in 3.99.29 M (and previous?) when using Ctrl+V on the name of a group was the M buggy one, and that it is working correctly now. It's just my M opinion. I disagree! :) M OK, I won't send you to jail for that :) Good! :) Ritlabs should work some way to have only ONE shortcut to move messages no matter if it was a single message, a subject group or a reference *thread*. M Not easy. If you select a single message in a proper thread, even M if it is the first one, how can TB know if you want to move the M whole thread or just the selected message? By asking with an M options dialog? I don't know what's your definition of thread but lets assume that it a group of messages related by reference, subject, sender or any other in common characteristic. If you select the row that aggregates the thread it should interpret as a move thread. Anything else should be considered as a move message(s). M But I am beginning to think you may be right in one way. In the M case of subject groups, if you select the group name, then M there is no doubt if what you want to do is move a single message M (because the group title isn't a message) or the entire group. M Similarly to what Windows does when in Explorer you select a file M or a folder and use Ctrl+X-Ctrl+V. M Anyway, and in case you don't know, dragging the 'group name' of a M subject group to a different folder does still move the entire M thread (group). Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't you sometimes wish taht there was a solution to ever Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Yes it does but it's not as simple as using the shortcut. I would have to open the folder tree prior to move the messages. M Can I ask you something? It's just curiosity but, about how many M messages on the average you move per minute? OK, let's make it per hour. M And complete threads? As I said, just curious ;-) Several time otherwise I wouldn't notice it. I follow TBBeta threads on a folder where I receive everything received from the list and when that thread gets dead I move it to a folder related to the year the message arrived. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias There are three things that come next, uh four. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Remember: No matter where you go; there you are. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. M Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? Not in TB 3.99.29 and all previous... M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. Another thing that would be nice is to allow TB to fallback to the actual interface. I really don't like the new interface that much. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Show Girl : she's more show than girl.attachment: move_thread.PNG Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Goncalo, Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. It works. Now it doesn't. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias We humans have a streak of barbarism in us... Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M I don't have any earlier versions available now but the attached is from M my 3.99.29. Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. RG It's been shiftctrlV to move a thread since I first started using RG the Bat around version 3.3x Well, that's not what's in the context menu and CTRL+V did exactly the same thing as shft+ctrl+v since threads appeared (probably that's why I didn't knew about that other shortcut). And I using TB since version 2.x. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias You think I care which way you face? O'Brien Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : US Hello Goncalo, US On 2008-01-05 you wrote: Maybe you're right but see my screen shot. My context menu says CTRL+V. I'm expecting to use this shortcut in future version since I got used to it. US Yes, but two lines above you can see the thread entry in the menu. US When you expand it, you'll see that Shift+Ctrl+V is the shortcut to US move threads (unless you have redefined it). Look at the screenshot US Miguel has posted. I didn't -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If it wasn't so cool out today, it would be warmer. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : N sábado, 5 ene 2008 at 10:58, it seems you wrote: Isn't Shift+Ctrl+V the shortcut to move a thread? N Hi! Here Shift+Ctrl+V shows the move message(s) to folder dialog N correctly. I tested it and it runs perfectly. Maybe but why have to shortcuts to do the same thing? I prefer the one with fewer keys. Call me lazy... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Real Trekkers work out at the He's Dead Gym. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Yes, mine does show Ctrl+V too. But, AFAIK and as I use it, that is for M selected message(s), not for threads. Go back to 3.99.29 and try with ctrl+v. M I just did (see my signature below) and if I select the first message of M a thread and hit Ctrl+V it just moves one message, the first one of the M thread, which is the one I had selected. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Another image to clarify. Even when I select a closed thread the shortcut is and always was CTRL+V and MOVES the ENTIRE thread to another folder. This is what I expect from the new version. It makes no sense to have a different shortcut to do exactly the same thing. What comes next? A new shortcut for when you select a even number of messages? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Abort, Retry, Ignore, plan a Funeral Service?attachment: move_thread.PNG Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.6
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4006.rar MM [-] Fixed multiple minor bugs of reading data out of array's bound MM [-] Backup didn't work in previous ALPHA (beta issue) MM [-] Folder compression didn't work in previous ALPHA (beta issue) When in Threaded View Mode it's not possible to move an entire thread to another folder using CTRL+V. This happens for all alphas. Also, the spell checking is not working. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias World peace will only come when patriotism is forgotten. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3 ALPHA
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4003.rar URL Download Manager is a most welcomed new feature. Nevertheless, I think it can be improved. One thing I think it lacks is an option to Allow once instead of the default behavior of allow or blocking forever. Just my 2 cents. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Anthony's Law of Force: Don't force it; get a larg Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.3: No way to sort accounts and folders
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM confirmed, but do You really miss this? I am not sure, why can be sorting MM of folders useful, as I think, this is waste feature... I use it... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Do physicists get hadrons? Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.1 ALPHA
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM Hello all, MM Saturday, December 22, 2007, Goncalo Farias wrote: Actually, they don't seem to work at all. I have 3 tabs on my account tree and 6 on my Message List they don't navigate. MM if are all tabs visible, nothing will happen. If some of the tabs are not visible, what's the point of navigate with the buttons? Enlight me, please. Another thing, these new blue bars seem to be immune to themes. No matter which theme I select they stay blue. I really don't like it this way. MM do not think, it will be possible to use themes for this. It's possible but theme colors do not change those blue bars. Should I picture this? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The best topping for really HOT sex is..Tabasco! Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.1 ALPHA
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : what are those little arrows for? They don't seem to have any effect here. Confirmed. I assume they are for going to another virtual map but not working though. MM these arrows are used for navigating between visible and non-visible tabs, MM crate more tabs and You will see :-) Actually, they don't seem to work at all. I have 3 tabs on my account tree and 6 on my Message List they don't navigate. Another thing, these new blue bars seem to be immune to themes. No matter which theme I select they stay blue. I really don't like it this way. I liked very much the addresses tab. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias To err is Human. To blame someone else is politics. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPF for thebat.net
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Is thebat.net blocking itself? PG That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself. I'm PG not sure why. Perhaps to avoid abuse. You already have the sent email... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The path to hell is paved with governm't subsidies Current beta is 3.99.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Resource Leak
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM Hello all, MM Thursday, August 23, 2007, Goncalo Farias wrote: I have opened BT bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6442 regarding this issue! MM can You confirm it as fixed and then resolve report in Bugtraq please? Done though nobody confirmed that the window title was correct. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias A teetotaller makes the worst drunkard. Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: [The Bat! 3.99.24] AV while creating message
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Apparently this is a bug of particular version of TheBat, because in latest versions 3.99.23 and 3.99.24 the items Mark as Junk and Mark as NOT Junk are disabled in menu and toolbar when no messages is selected. MM I have just checked 3.99.24 and the items Mark as Junk and Mark MM as NOT Junk are really disabled in menu and toolbar when no MM message is selected. I cannot confirm... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Interchangeable parts never will. Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Issue with mailbox
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I I've received three suggestion emails thus far indicating that I'm I not alone in this problem. The fact that there _is_ an undocumented I command to 'fix' this if it happens, is suspect enough for me to be I worried about the integrity and security of my data. Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. I don't think the integrity of the mailbase is an issue. Maybe the developers should jump in to rest you assured. I don't remember ever, in the 3 years I'm on the list, to have seen anyone complaining about losing mails due to that problem (or losing mails at all). -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Woman who go to man's apartment for snack, may get tit bit Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Issue with mailbox
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I Well, thats how I discovered this problem of disappearing folders! I At first I thought that I had simply forgotten to export (from I Thunderbird) those folders. So, I manually created one of them so I that I could use the tools import. Thats why I got the error that I the folder already existed - though I couldn't see it. I didn't get I _any_ option to use the initial folder though. So, taking the above into account, you should be glad the trick works in your case! :-) I I guess. Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias see here now ... Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: MAPI error 2
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : EJM Excellent question. I continue to find applications where the mapi EJM problem creates problems. A short list of problems impacted include: EJM MSWord Office 2007 Suite EJM Mindjet EJM Adobe Professional EJM Dreamweaver GF You may add: GF FeedDemon --- Information --- MAPI error code #2 --- OK --- When is this scheduled to be fixed? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias To live well, know the difference between good and evil. Current beta is 3.99.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse) REQUEST FOR MODERATION
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : His totally unfounded accusations against Ritlabs and CIFNet are RG Unfounded - he posted the message with the headers I believe you should be responding to Paul Van Noord. Nevertheless, posting the headers demonstrates nothing, I believe. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Programmers do it bit by bit. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative! Mailing List Abuse - where is the so called abuse? It was a PRIVATE EMAIL and nothing to do with the list. I I used the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of I the list by (1) not posting to the list, which is fine of course I (2) used the list to obtain my email address, thereby sending me an I email which had nothing to do with _the_list_ but instead served to I put me on guard as if to say ...I know who you are etc. If he I didn't have access to the list, he won't have had access to my I email address and thus would not have sent me such an email. He I _knew_ that his actions were suspect and reprehensible thats why, I like a cowardly rat hiding under a rock, he tried to cover his I tracks. Thats the difference between men and boys. I've been using this list for almost 3 years and never got such emails. You must have done something VERY wrong. I Here, let me help you a bit... I don't remember asking you for help. So don't lecture me, please! I I'm not sure if English is your sixth language or not, but its I clear to me from your posts that its either (a) not your first I language (b) Well, it's not my only language as you guessed. Probably that's why I don't see any threat on the email you've receive. Paranoia must be a requisite to be a celebrity. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MAPI error 2
Is this MAPI problem going to be fixed on the next beta? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias When talking nonsense try not to be serious. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: MAPI error 2
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : EJM Hello Goncalo, EJM Sunday, August 26, 2007, 5:09:34 AM, you wrote: Is this MAPI problem going to be fixed on the next beta? EJM Excellent question. I continue to find applications where the mapi EJM problem creates problems. A short list of problems impacted include: EJM MSWord Office 2007 Suite EJM Mindjet EJM Adobe Professional EJM Dreamweaver You may add: FeedDemon -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias It stared back at me, Escher-like. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Mailing List Abuse
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I love a good witch hunt. At least it will spur some more excitement on the list. Right up to their eventual ban (I hope). V As you are a relatively new guy here: it is a THEBAT beta list. If V you other problems, it is not the place for that. Please, gag the man. Since he arrived, we had more traffic than ever without much benefit for the beta cycle. Also, we had insinuations that RitLabs or CIFNet released his personal data based on almost no evidence. I'm fed up with him! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Commander, I'm getting excited again... * Bashir Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MAPI error 2
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Yes, I just did it :) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6452 Confirmation note added :) RG Thanks! Confirmed. Note added! Back to .06 (doesn't suffer from this issue) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Don't you want to be a Block too? Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF Please, gag the man. RO moderator RO Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not RO just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have RO instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Goncalo. RO ' RO Please do not post messages which are direct RO attacks against other users / people. This is a clear violation of RO list rule B.3 and will not be tolerated. I'm sorry but I'm a little fed up with the latest posts/threads. I didn't like the light accusations/insinuations made against Ritlabs and/or CIFNet by our new anonymous (and self-entitled) 'celebrity' especially because he presented little to no evidence. Nevertheless, regard this and the gag post as venting... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Garbage In, Gospel Out Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RG Apparently some of you apply that term to someone that disagrees with RG your preconceive notions. I suppose I too qualify as a troll RG For the record I do not know Indie outside of Ritlabs i.e. we RG are not buddies PVN I thank you for taking the time to read this and for trying to PVN understand what is being said. First of all, Indie_Dev is an PVN admitted alias for the sole purpose of anonymity. Receiving PVN anonymous PM is only a reciprocation of what he has initiated. If PVN that NEEDS to be addressed then his anonymity deserves the same PVN treatment. PVN These are list rules: PVN 1. Stick to the facts, unless stating your opinion, but please PVN make it clear that it is your opinion. PVN 2. Do not use profanity. This list is not the place for it. If a PVN list member is consistently abusive, they will be banned from the PVN list. PVN 3. Do not turn a discussion into a slanging match by resorting to PVN personal insults and/or derogatory remarks. PVN Indie_Dev violated all of these multiple times before he even PVN received the PM. Does he deserve a pass because he is a PVN self-appointed anonymous celebrity who unabashedly proclaims his PVN level of expertise to be significantly superior to the other list PVN members? PVN His totally unfounded accusations against Ritlabs and CIFNet are PVN _very_ serious and should not have been tolerated, under _any_ PVN circumstances. It seems obvious to me that what is right for the PVN goose is also right for the gander. No one deserves a genuflect. PVN It is past time to be fair! PVN Thanks for listening. Thank you for wording my point of view so eloquently. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Exactly what KIND of Water Music did you have in mind? - H Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : His totally unfounded accusations against Ritlabs and CIFNet are _very_ serious and should not have been tolerated, under _any_ circumstances. It seems obvious to me that what is RG How was it determined that they were unfounded? If you have proof RG of that then by all means you are correct. If so please share. If RG not then you do us all an injustice as, in your words, the RG accusations ARE very serious Because Indie_dev didn't present evidence of what he was claiming. You'll agree that Thank you for the excellent description of yourself. I feel sad for you and pity for Atlanta. presents no treat nor evidence whatsoever relating Ritlabs/CIFNet to the anonymous emails presented. Nor does it present any kind of threat. RG definite tendency to be slavishly accepting and defensive about the RG Bat and Ritlabs and ignoring their flaws. This man was rejected as RG much for this as he was for anything he did on the list Sure TB has flaw as almost any piece of software. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Modem Police...we clocked you at over 1600 cps. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GP The point being that Rit can take full advantage of whatever GP useful suggestions that might be made without anybody responding GP to what might feel like provocative remarks. Such responses are GP unnecessary, and counterproductive to what we are trying to GP accomplish here. IMO. GP If it might be true that private information has been compromised, GP our strong and fair moderator will deal with the situation GP appropriately, I'm sure. We also don't need to discuss the alleged GP compromising here. Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative! Mailing List Abuse - where is the so called abuse? It was a PRIVATE EMAIL and nothing to do with the list. Unlike many others, he disguise himself behind an alias and disrupts the purpose of the list. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias MS-DOS - celebrating ten years of continous obsolescence. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : If I sent you an email in 1996 and it stayed on your ISP mail server until today how should it appear on email client? With today's date or 1996? I I was importing emails from my local drive that was _already_ I downloaded. Its not on my ISP. I always download and delete my I email from the server. You're avoiding my question, I'm just curious if on purpose or not. HO I would say that it should appear with todays date. I would say it too. The receive date is when it was imported by TB and it shouldn't matter if it came from a POP server, a file or some other email client export file. I And in case you didn't know this already, _only_ the Bat! does I this. NO other email does this. None. It's different, not necessarily wrong. I Its wrong. Until you answer my question it's JUST different. HO I would say that TB! is doing it RIGHT. TB! received the imported HO eMails today, so they have to display in the default today HO filter. If someone want it differently, (s)he is free do use the HO features of TB! to create any view (s)he wants. If people want a different thing, I would vote for an Import date thus leaving us with Create, Receive and Import/Archived. As I said previously, I think TB needs a 3rd date and I'll vote for that. HO If (s)he is not willing to understand the features that TB! HO offers, (s)he can move to an other eMail client. There are 30 days HO of free trial to test TB! before buying. No comment. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias What do we do now ¨ Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : HO TB! is importing eMail as-is. Please inform you before making HO statements that are wrong. The date used in Received column is not HO extracted from the eMails, but is the date TB! received the eMail, and HO this by any vector you want: POP3, IMAP, .MSG or UNIX Mailbox on HO USB-stick, DVD, download HO This info is not stored in the headers of the eMails. And this HO behaviour is good. Otherwise one will entirely depend of correct HO configuration of time and timezones of sender and mailservers. HO Anyway, if _you_ need an other behaviour, _you_ can obtain this HO behaviour by using correctly the graphical interface of TB!. So when you import your email, the received and created field will be identical since they decided that they'd go an complicate and confuse things by adding a header that is clearly _not_ required. HO TB! adds _no_ header. Please really inform you before speaking. Press HO F9 to visualize the complete source of each message in TB! Every email program has the subject, sender, recipient, data, size and then you have additional stuff like attachments and whatnot. So when my email from 1996 has a received 'date' of 1996 and then I expect it to TB! and it comes up under 'received' date of the day of the export and again under the 'created' date which is the actual and accurate data, its just wrong. HO Do not mix up received and created HO export and import HO If you are interested to sort your eMails in the way it is comfortable HO for you, you can do it. If you do not want to do it yourself, you can HO try that other will do it for you. But I am not certain that they will HO do it, as many other people will be offended by the way _you_ prefer HO the sorting. HO The fact that TB! is managing himself the dates of reception is an HO important feature for _me_. HO This are my last 2 cents on this topic. And you may very well write in your _very_ famous blog that they changed it blah blah blah and that your advice is to NOT use TB, etc, etc... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Henry Ford, with all his money...never owned a Caddy! Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 0006425: Same SRB file shows different filters with 3.99.06 and 3.99.14
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M Hello Maxim, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6425 -- Closed. Thank you very much!! I hope that it will also fix the other lost issues, reported in the Russian forum: M I don't speak or read a word of Russian, so I have no idea of what kind M of 'lost' issues they are reporting. Sorry :) Vodka? Anna Kournikova? ;) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Politics: Poly (many) + tics (blood sucking parasites) Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Very well said. However with the following lines it seems that we are moving to a dangerous ground: I'll mention it on my blog, it will get read - millions and millions of times. Then everyone even thinking of switching email programs will then get to decide (after reading my documentation of the anomaly) if they want an email program, in this case TB!, manggling their email and screwing up their otherwise perfectly normal views. My guess Don't get me wrong but the above looks suspiciously like blackmail. And *this* will certainly NOT help The Bat!. Of course it's your opinion and well in your rights to publish however this is *YOUR* blog. Unless you allow RITLABS a formal answer it seems more than revenge/blackmail because The Bat! doesn't work the way that you want it and you are bashing it because of that. I Yes, I see how that can be misconstrued, but blackmail (a rather I strong term) it is not. I The point is, if I don't like something or I have an issue with it, I I have the right to say so. On my blog, I write about a range of I issues, from Microsoft's borking of Vista and then trying to use I the video gaming community to spearhead its adoption, hence making I DX10 exclusive to it, to Google complying with communist China's I demands about access to their search portal. Nobody accused me of I blackmail!! Because those are BIG companies that can AFFORD that. In fact, those companies are used to that kind of attitude. A small company can't afford that kind of do_it_as_I_want_or_I'll_post_a_bash_review_on_my_blog attitude. I In fact, there are hundreds of Internet wide post about email I programs, including the Bat! Most of those posts, reviews etc are I about shortcomings, failures, security holes etc in them. We've been using this email client longer than you do and I haven't found this a shortcoming... you're not alone, I presume, but you're in a tiny minority. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Save The Whales. Harpoon A Honda! Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Mailing List Abuse
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I Not sure what that means VB. I Sure this person could just be being facetious with his comments I and the fact that the IP resolves out of Atlanta, but then why I would he not have posted via the list that being the case? I've sent you one email off-list, so what? I That email address is not on the mailing list AFAIK. The fact that I they went out of their way to use an anon (and being _stupid_ I enough to think that there is such as thing as anon when it comes I to being online) to send that to me directly means that (apart from I being cowardly bastards) they have an idea of who I am, quite apart I from my Atlanta IP (which is meaningless). I Jake will be able to trace the IP right to the _desktop_ the email I came from. Its what he does for a living. He's very - very - good I at it. I I love a good witch hunt. At least it will spur some more I excitement on the list. Right up to their eventual ban (I hope). I - JD Get a grip on yourself! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias What this country needs is a good five-cent nickel. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Resource Leak
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module theBat.exe at 000481B5. Resource leak: 3 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 0092DC2F 0092B4A1 0092F7BC. --- OK --- Yes, every time I select the option Watch Replies In from the context menu I get the above error! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias It wasn't broken..until I started playing with it! Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Resource Leak
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Once again: --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module theBat.exe at 000481B5. Resource leak: 3 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 0092DC2F 0092B4A1 0092F7BC. --- OK --- I think this has to do with Watch Replies... Both time I tried to see what this option did... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The machine that goes...BING! Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Resource Leak
I have opened BT bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6442 regarding this issue! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Expert - knows tomorrow why today's prediction failed. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : If I sent you an email in 1996 and it stayed on your ISP mail server until today how should it appear on email client? With today's date or 1996? I I was importing emails from my local drive that was _already_ I downloaded. Its not on my ISP. I always download and delete my I email from the server. You're avoiding my question, I'm just curious if on purpose or not. I And in case you didn't know this already, _only_ the Bat! does I this. NO other email does this. None. It's different, not necessarily wrong. I Its wrong. Until you answer my question it's JUST different. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Please be sure to exit before leaving. - Jack Treger Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[9]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Don't say it wrong because it not! It seems that you didn't understand what I meant. I Hey, its wrong to _me_. So of course I can say its wrong. But it's not. I functionality of the 'attachment display' has nothing to do with I 'randomnesss' since the population of that [attachments] list is not I random i.e. it displays attachments, not random bits of data objects I pulled from elsewhere (as in random). Do you read everything I write? I'll try again! Imagine that you receive an email with the following attachments: winter.jpg, autumn.jpg, summer.jpg and spring.jpg If you want, with the pane mode, you may select any random set of the above list of attachments and delete it (ie: (winter, autumn), (summer, sprint, winter), (winter, summer) you name it). To be coherent with your arguments, the button view should mimic the possibility to select any arbitrary set of files from the attachment list for deletion. What I meant was that, if you have files 1, 2, 3 and 4 you are able to select 1 and 3, 2 and 4, 2 and 3, 1,2 and 4, etc and then delete those files. So, you can select a random SET of the AVAILABLE attachments for deletion (and actually delete them) and that's not possible with the button view. I Now you're confusing the issue. There is no call of obfuscation. No, I'm not. I We're not talkin about randomness of attachments. We're tallking I about two views, holding the same information, but one not allowing I the flexibility as the other. That's exactly what I'm pointing out. There are some things that you can do with the pane view that are not possible with the button view! Period! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Do not adjust your mind, the fault is with reality. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : and this should be a warranty of anything? Such big corporations manytimes tries do their own standards and waits, if others will use it or not. I The point I was making is that larger companies will tend to be more I in compliance of standards (e.g. RFC) than indie developers. Just because they DO BEND the standards - ie Microsoft! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias SYSTEM ERROR: Press F13 to continue Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I'm going to cite Walter Bright regarding something everybody was doing differently: As James Kanze explained on comp.lang.c++.moderated, DMC++ is correct according to the Standard. However, nobody else does it that way, and the Standard is going to be changed to make such code correct. I LOL!! I remember that one. The standard was never changed. heh That's normal since it's only been a few months since Walter said that on Sat, 23 Dec 2006. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The Greatest Right is the Right 'To Fail' Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Interface Inconsistencies
Hi, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I 1) Why is there no 'Delete All' option when you click on the I attachment tab in the viewer page? If there are several attachments I and you want to delete them, you have to repeat the 'Delete' action I numerous times. God help you if some relative decides to send you a I ton of pictures of their new baby voted most likely to be the next I anti-Christ. That means in order to delete 24 pictures of the next I anti-Christ, you have to do a total of (24*3) clicks. That, to me, is I patently unacceptable. You can select all you need to delete and just hit del! :) So there's really no point to have a delete all, I guess. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias I think I'm gonna, Puke. Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Interface Inconsistencies
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Zygmunt Wereszczynski is quite right. The Received column means Received by TheBat! and not Received by the last mailserver. I We _know_ that. But its wrong and unconventional. Apart from the I fact that its not the RFC standard. I The Bat is not technically receiving the email. It is being I imported. It should _leave_ the headers as they are without I injecting that condition in it, which is what is causing the I problem. Then, in addition to the receive date it should have an import date. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If at first you don't succeed, quit, quit at once. Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Resource Leak
I got the attached message. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias This space for rent. Send $50 to ROF.attachment: 123.GIF Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
