10.4.0.17
Hello All, The Bat! v10.4.0.17 is now available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-17.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-4-0-17.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-4-0-17.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-4-0-17.msi [*] CEF v117 [*] Google and Outlook365 calendar synchronisation works smoother and do not require extra OAUTH tokens -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.11
Hello Sergey, > One addition. TheBAT crashes on Windows load only if no active internet > connection. Please don't forget to send exception logs to us, otherwise we sink in guesses... Thank you! -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.4.0.9
Hello All, Version 10.4.0.9 is now available from https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-9.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-4-0-9.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-4-0-9.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-4-0-9.msi Changes: [*] Manual changes on HTML toolbars visibility in the editor are now reflected in new editor windows [*] Removed the confirmation dialog on stopping the search process in the Message Finder [-] Tabulation didn't function in the Memo editor [-] An Access Violation error message appeared when viewing certain emails with calendar events [-] Gmail's web-interface displayed the № character in emails as when sent from The Bat! using the PureHTML editor [-] The "Paste from..." command didn't work in the RichText Editor [-] Repeated opening of HTML-messages from "Outbox" resulted in changing the format to plain text [-] Message text selection was barely seen in the PureHTML editor under the Choco Dark theme [-] The search stopping confirmation dialog appeared twice when the user canceled the search process in case it had already been completed [-] Manually typing a hyperlink and pressing the spacebar resulted in the change of the current font to Calibri in the RichText editor -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.6
Hello Sergey, Within The Bat! itself, the file is open for reading and completely share aware (the fix attempt was overriding default access mode - ShareDenyWrite), so the only thing I can think of is you have some software like antivirus that intercepts access to the file on the system level and opens it for write. If it's done on the system level, file is shown as open and locked by TheBat.EXE but it can be anything. So, we give up on this issue for now. As a workaround, I would recommend to reedit the template - cut the image and then paste it back. Take a look at the source code to make sure it's not referred as a disk file anymore. > Can't confirm this fixes. Same problem using latest v10.4.0.6 x64 nau after > opening and reply to 7-8 messages. > Resource viewer shows locking file only by TheBAT -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RSS feeds
Wrong folder template, sorry :-) This message was supposed to go into TBUDL... >> how can I add RSS feeds into The Bat (9 or 10) and have them each its own >> folder? > What do you mean? Each RSS is stored in its own folder currently... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RSS feeds
Hello Gunivortus, > how can I add RSS feeds into The Bat (9 or 10) and have them each its own > folder? What do you mean? Each RSS is stored in its own folder currently... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs SRL 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.6 Gmail calendar not shows all events
Hello Белрус, > Let's think that events.cfg kills all. It still not shows my events in TB! ((( The problem is with terminology. Those events that you think as of events are not events :) They are stored separately and accessed using different API(s) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.6 Gmail calendar not shows all events
Hello Белрус, > I decide to merge all the calendar "threads" into one calendar thread. It > done, but TB! stores somewhere all an old threads and shows them (without > events). I do think that problem in that. Where am I can clear all calendar > cache in TB!? After cleaning I will try to sync my google calendar again. You can delete EVENTS.CFG if you don't have your own events/schedules in your calendar. Otherwise, it's a feature request to have a possibility to clear/resync calendars of a particular account -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.4.0.6
Hello All, https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-4-0-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-4-0-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-4-0-6.msi [*] (#0222) Workaround for the "file is locked" error while loading template images from a file [-] Text pasted into PureHTML editor from an Excel spreadheet could be pasted not as a table [-] Time zone could be not set for use when importing from an .ICS file [-] Template Preview did not switch between HTML / Plain Text outputs [-] Embedded images were not shown in the Template Preview [-] Some external images were not displayed upon download -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Viktor, > - Is the reaction on right click desired too? My gut tells me: standard click > yes, right click has already another function and shouldn't trigger the > standard click response too. Right click on an attachment should select that attachment, otherwise there is no point for most menu commands, so it's at least has some logic behind :) We may rethink this, though we did not see much complains about the current auto-preview behavior - normally, people either just like it or switch it off... > - In my case the document is a PDF, which is being viewed in an embedded > Acrobat Viewer if I'm not mistaken and thus the potential for an exploit > being launched thru it is not mitigated. PDF are viewed either using Chromium PDF viewer or (in the single process mode) they are converted into HTML using the same library we use for Office documents. In both cases, no Adobe software is used... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 Right-clicking an attachment activates it in tab, viewing it
Hello Viktor, > BUT: this feature seems to me to have been meant to control the auto-preview > on *standard click* - the right click does something different and, in my > opinion, shouldn't trigger the auto-preview at all. Like this, I find it a > security risk with users launching files they intended to treat with caution. This was discussed here right after the feature was released. Viewing Office attachments is safe because the code for conversion them into HTML is built in, does not run any scripts and protected against buffer underrun and other vulnerabilities. If a document cannot be displayed withing The Bat!, most probably it contains an exploit... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4 access violation errors
Hello Белрус, >>> 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when >>> PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled >> We need to reproduce that access violation first. It looks like a >> configuration-specific thing. > They are here and really annoying. See attached image. What can I do for help > here? Are you need some logs or what? Yes, please send the TheBat_Exceptions.log file directly to me so we don't generate useless traffic here. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Zygmunt, > After reverting to 10.3.3.16 this slow response for editor still existed. I > have decided to reinstall The Bat! from scratch. First, I have made backup > and then have removed all TB! entries from registry. After fresh installation > The Bat! editor is responsive again! This is strange. May be you've switched Pure HTML editor as the default? This could be the case for a slow start of editor, but it should happen just once - looks like it enumerates fonts and you probably have a lot of them... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Marck, >Up and, sadly, still not running for me :-( Did you try the /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command line parameter? it logs startup sequence into ex_log.txt in the mail directory. Please try to run The Bat! with this parameter and send the log to me. It's a weird one... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4
Hello Белрус, 1) Access violation error isn't fixed? As far I understand it annoying when PDF-viewer is works with CEF checkbox enabled We need to reproduce that access violation first. It looks like a configuration-specific thing. PDF is now available for viewing in the single process mode, it is just presented as an MS Office document (like DOC/DOCX) 2) Is Any fixes added to watch google calendar with all events from all "branches"? Is button "manual sync" for google calendar added? Those are not fixes, it's another piece of functionality that must be implemented one day. :) -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
Hello George, AFAIR, running CEF in single kills showing attached documents inside TB! Am I wrong? Not exactly, it affects PDF viewer (documents are still being rendered in the latest version, but functionality is reduced) and Web browser in RSS feeds (pages could be rendered incorrectly due to missing plugins that require multi-process mode). -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: 10.3.3.16
Hello George, >- sync button for google calendar (or autosync feature after any changes that >do a customer) Sync buttons can be seen and used in the Calendar Manager >- google calendar not shows fully all the events (all the calendars in one >account not shows normally, events from main calendar not shows) There is a difference between events, tasks and reminders - only events can sync now, task lists and reminders are separate entities and must be accessed using other permissions/APIs >- changing events of google calendar in the cloud or in TB! not always resync >between them >- autosync of google calendar works slowly! 10 and more minutes to add/change >events >? Yeah, this needs to be improved. Currently, 5 minutes interval is used by default, CalendarSyncIntervalSeconds value in HKCU\Software\Rit\The Bat! registry key may help you now If you still have that AV error, please send us the Exception Log so we can investigate it, a single address does not help in most cases. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.11
Hello Ethan, > Will we be able to sync with Microsoft 365 Exchange? Yes, next iteration should allow us to sync with outlook365 accounts. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.3.3.11
Hello All, Version 10.3.3.11 is now available: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-3-3-11.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-3-3-11.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-3-3-11.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-11.msi [+] Calendar Manager [+] Sync with Google Calendar [-] Bugs with Calculate command in HTML editors [-] Some iCalendar files could cause AV errors [-] Alt+Insert (Paste as quotation) was not working properly in both HTML editors [-] Weekly/daily repeating events were starting repetitions one day later [-] Time zone issues when importing from iCalendar files -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.6 Bug #02233 still broken
Hello Gwen, > Still broken! Numbers and parentheses in filename were removed! > See https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2233#c6941 This is a separate issue, actually. It will require some changes in the parser and it could not be done as quick as fixing the main issue... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very calm
Hello Martin, > Did I miss something, does this mailing list no longer exist? It has > become so quiet... Please stay tuned - we continue development, the problem is that there is some amount of heavy lifting (related to revising of legacy code) to de done in order to finish the current tasks. Plus, we've started conversion the current code into multi-platform project, this also takes quite an effort. Yeah, the current situation in the neighborhood and in the World doesn't make things easy, but we're still here and still working :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.2 Important! Disable preview of attachments because of possible vulnerabiliy
Hello Gwen, > why are we not able to disable previews and tabs of attachments in > message list by settings? To disable attachment preview, use the "Attachment auto-preview" option in the attachment pane popup or "Workspace|Attached files|Attachment auto-preview" > I am really concerned about security issues related to the attachment > viewer. We have tested the code and it's proven to be safe. We've tested against existing exploits and we see that the exploits don't work with The Bat! > 1. If attachments are rendered by Chromium CEF, there are always > security issues in browser viewer part of The Bat!. Attachments are first converted into safe and simple HTML code, so what security issues do you see there? > 3. The Bat!'s XML parser for some data types can be vulnerable. No security issues were found so far. > 2. Vulnerability could be the unpacking of compressed > data. No security issues were found in the ZIP library so far. Yeah, ZIP bombs may cause "out of memory" messages, but that's the only bad thing that may happen. > I think there is a real need of never opening attachments, not even hidden > internally!, if that is forbidden by The Bat! settings. Attachments are read in a very similar way as parsing email messages. If the parsing code is good enough, why should you worry? Parsing emails or images or protocols is also a potentially vulnerable task if a wrong coding approach is taken, especially when it comes to cryptography. Just take a look at logged The Bat! security/vulnerability issues - do you see many found in 25 years? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2 Less ecurity with attchment viewes!?
Hello Gwen, Friday, October 14, 2022, 8:13:54 PM, you wrote: > Automatic viewers for PDF, DOC, XLS etc.? Really? The files are converted by the built-in converter into HTML and displayed in the HTML viewer, actually. No scripts execution and other unsafe stuff. Do you still see anything to worry security wise? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.2.1.2
Hello All, The Bat! v10.2.1.2 is available for testing. https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-2-1-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-2-1-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-2-1-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-2-1-2.msi [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 update failed
Hello Thomas, Note: I did not see any announcement on this list about 10.2.1. 10.2.1 is a hotfix update to 10.2 Most probably, you have a connection error - do they happen often in other apps? I guess we were too optimistic about those simple tasks, so more work error reporting needs to be done. Please try to redownload the update. -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.1.0.5
Hello All, Version 10.1.0.5 is available from https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-1-0-5.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-5.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-1-0-5.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-5.msi [-] "Failed to load URL https://localhost/msgs/...; error (Beta issue) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.1.0.4
Hello All, Version 10.1.0.4 is now available for testing https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-1-0-4.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-4.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-1-0-4.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-4.msi [!] Google OAUTH is now performed via localhost Redirect URI as OOB redirection is going to be disabled by Google [*] "Print" command was added to the contact's context menu [*] Now it is possible to define default address book in the new interface [*] "Select All" (Ctrl+A) command is now added for contacts list [*] Nickname field in contact properties is available in the new address book interface [*] New address book interface remembers last selected address book [*] Address group properties shows total number of contacts in this group [-] Template could be inactivate in Pure HTML editor [-] Bug when address book list in external addition dialog couldn't be scrolled is fixed [-] Old address book interface now properly updates after adding a new address group in the new interface [-] Rare crash after interface theme switching while new address book is open fixed [-] String overlap in contact properties selection popup is now fixed [-] Common quick templates are now selectable in mass mailing dialog -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GPGME
Hello Jernej, It shouldn't be too hard to compile it yourself — I include gpgme in my wget binaries, though I compile it statically. msys2 likely also has prepackaged binaries, too. That's what we tried to do while TBBETA was silent, it is not that simple, at least - with our knowledge of the tools. If you can help us with that, it'd be great - looks like we miss some "evident" prerequisites... -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello Jernej, > I've got another program with the same symptoms as LibreOffice: Asp32, a very > old (last release in 2002) dictionary program from Slovenia. It appears the problem with no-start is gone when a single process CEF is used by The Bat!. So, most probably CEF and those apps with problems are trying to use same resources simultaneously. I've found some mentions of hardware acceleration, but I don't believe a dictionary program from 2002 would need it at all :) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GPGME
Hello All, We've been playing with GPGME for some time, trying to adopt it to our requirements and suddenly discovered that there is no 64bit Windows version of GPGME DLL. Now, we should figure out what would be better - provide GPGME support in 32 bit version only or improve support of console GnuPG eliminating existing problems in both 32 and 64 bit versions. From the current standpoint, the latter is preferrable. There is an option to produce a 64bit Windows version of GnuPG, but it's not quite clear how much resources it woud require... Please feel free to post your thoughts on this. Thank you! -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello Gwen, >The troublemaker is THe Bat! CEF browser. > >See urgent bug report: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2208 The problem is that we have no idea what Libre Office is trying to do and what exactly prevents it from starting. Presumably, they try to exclusively lock some resource which is also used by CEF, but we have zero knowledge of resources used by Libre Office. On the other hand, LO is the only software that is suffering, we did not receive reports about similar problems in other software. Thus, we'll have to wait for LO team findings... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add GPGME in The Bat! 10.x to get rid of external GnuPG programs calls
Hello Gwen, > the developer of GPG4Win advised devs of mail clients to use GPGME as > a lib to use de-/encryption/signing/verification of OpenPGP content/mails. > Had you considered to do this? Yeah, I think it's a good idea finally - I see the interface of GPGME didn't change for many years, so we are going to squeeze it into development schedule... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
Hello Jernej, > Pressing AltGr+Shift causes the line I'm currently editing to align to the > right in this version. It actually switches text direction to right-to-left, not alignment. Hmm. Not sure it's needed for left-to-right languages... :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test, please ignore
Hello Jernej, > I received two 10.1.0.2 announcements through the list. Yeah, there were two attempts from both of my accounts -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.1.0.2
Dear All, Version 10.1.0.2 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi Here is a short list of changes: [+] RichText editor as a simpler to use HTML editor [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) [*] Update CEF to v103 [*] Crop function in the HTML editor moved to a dialog window RichText is reincarnation of the older HTML editor which is based on the RichView component, we decided to make it available again as the current HTML editor (added in v9 cycle) could be a pain to handle sometimes :) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.1.0.2
Dear All, Version 10.1.0.2 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi Here is a short list of changes: [+] RichText editor as a simpler to use HTML editor [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) [*] Update CEF to v103 [*] Crop function in the HTML editor moved to a dialog window RichText is reincarnation of the older HTML editor which is based on the RichView component, we decided to make it available again as the current HTML editor (added in v9 cycle) could be a pain to handle sometimes :) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
Hello Martin, > And my very quiet question: What's about the GnuPG issues? They're waiting in the line. We do remember them, of course :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
Hello Dimitar, > Now we know Stefan uses dark theme :) Well noticed :-) As a matter of fact, the very first version of The Bat! was using greyish background in the preview and editor because standard Windows palette was eye straining to me :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
Hello Chris, > May I ask if the next beta is likely to fix the Remote Desktop issue please? We'll try to fix it, but as I told you before, it's somehow problematic to find the cause... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
Hello Gwen, > Your HTML message is white text on white background ;-) Yeah, it's a good pre-Beta finding :) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
Hello Ethan, Quick question - has beta testing ended? Quick answer - no. :-) We're preparing a new Beta right now. -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 10.1 - Calendar error
Hello Ethan, > I think the calendar feature should be removed. I don't think so :-) We're going to add connectivity to exchange/gmail/etc services soon. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 10.1 - Calendar error
Hello Zygmunt, > Failed to load URL http://local.resource/TBX_CLDR_VIEW?page=calendar with > error ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED (-105). What kind of installation do you have? (With/without autoupdate)? If it's a version with autoupdate, does your username contain any non-ASCII characters? I guess we'll need to introduce some configuration info shortcuts/macros... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Editor
Hello Ira, > Just wondering if there is any plan to fix the editor. Yes, we are currently working on making the old RichText-based editor back with fixes as well as on making the HTML editor better. Most of problems related to the HTML editor are caused by the fact that RichText format was developed primarily for using in editors whilst HTML was developed for viewers. So, combining these two conceptions is quite a task, and that's why we decided to get the RTF back. What are the biggest PITAs you experience with the editor, anyway? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 10.0.10 randomly crashing
Hello Jernej, > The Bat v10.0.10 seems to be quite unstable – it often closes without any > notification at all, while running in the background (so I don't notice until > I want to send a new e-mail). Here's the content of my > thebat64_Exceptions.log for today (when TB crashed once): Do you use the "Single CEF process" option? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager 10.0.10.3
Hello All, New version of The Bat! Voyager is available for testing: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_install_x32-10-0-10-3.exe https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_install_x64-10-0-10-3.exe It requires activation with a key of The Bat! v10 Professional Please backup your Voyager data before using this new version -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.0.10 CEF run single checkbox
Hello Gleason, > The Bat has come a long way towards better functionality in the past 15 > years. Much much better now. Glad to hear this, thank you Gleason! But please keep in mind that perfection has no limits, so we have a lot of things to be done :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Features: Support for ICS / iCalendar format mails
Hello Viktor, > recently, a sender started sending me Outlook appointment e-mails containing > nothing but the iCalendar data with its MIME type. Such mails aren't handled > by TheBat! very nicely, only the source text beginning with "BEGIN:VCALENDAR" > is being shown, not even a button to save the contents to a file. I saw some > old feature requests for this but nothing leading to a solution. Would any > of you possibly have a workaround or know where a feature discussion for > better support could be continued? We are working on it right now as we got massive feedback on these new (and long waited) features. So, please be patient :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.0.10 CEF run single checkbox
Hello George, > What does it mean? If I have many lagged HTML complex messages then I do need > to mark this checkbox or unmark? In your case, it's better to use multiprocess CEF, i.e. keep the checkbox unticked. > I do prefer to open strange and complex HTML-new in the browser directly. CEF built into The Bat! is a complete browser (equal to Chrome version 101 since v10.0.3), so there is no practical difference in viewing HTML messages in The Bat! or open them in the browser. Actually, The Bat! is more secure as it may block downloading resources from unwanted sites and do not have access to whatever passwords stored in your browser (that could be fished out somehow)... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.0.10
Hello George, >> [+] Option to run single CEF process at the Preferences | Applications page > What is this and when do we need to enable this? By default, multiple processes are started in order to support fast and reliable functioning of the Chroimium browser. Also, some features like built-in PDF viewer and video player (in RSS feed) are only available when multiple processes are used. But in some cases they could be too resource greedy, in this case single process option could help -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.0.10
Dear All, The Bat! v10.0.10 is available for testing from https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-0-10.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-0-10.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-0-10.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-0-10.msi Here is a short list of changes: [+] Option to run single CEF process at the Preferences | Applications page [-] Sometimes, abandoned utility processes could stay after quit the application Changes since 10.0.5: --- 10.0.9 changes [+] "Go Offline" button in the Restore dialog [-] Window size of Message Source Viewer was not restored on screen DPIs other that 96 [-] PDF files with non-ASCII characters in names could not be viewed --- 10.0.6 changes [+] Inline PDF viewer [*] Use multiple CEF process to optimize HTML rendering [*] /SingleCEF command line parameter to use CEF browser in the current process -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.0.3 - Plain taskbar icon instead of TheBat signature one
Hello Viktor, > v10 release seems to have a plain white icon on the taskbar for its message > or connection center windows. The notification area window has a TheBat! one, > same as the windows themselves - just the taskbar seems to sport a plain one. I noticed that several times and it looks like a Windows Explorer issue because system reboot helps in most cases. If you use version with automatic updates, it must not be a problem anymore because it happens only after reinstalling MSI package. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG bugs
Hello Martin, > Are there any plans to fix the very very old GnUPG bugs in theis Beta > 10 cycle. Would be very nice - we are waiting now quite a long > time... We are going to address it very soon. If you have specific links to BT issues of what bugs you most, please send them to me -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Ethan, > How does one turn off the calendar feature? It is not working correctly. What do you mean by turning off and what is not working correctly? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Sergey, > After update can't get mail messages using POP3 from any mailbox on my own > server. Error in TLS (checking server certificate). Root cetificate is not > trusted. Changing from "Microsoft Crypto API" to "Internal" in S/MIME TLS > options solve this problem. Previous latest beta works without this changes. Hmm. Was it an entirely new installation? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Martin, > The program icon in the program list is missing. What version did you run before upgrading to v10? Basically, the problem could be connected with the new way Windows treats application icons - you may need to uninstall the previous version of The Bat! from the "Add or remove programs" -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Mark, > Since I did not have the time to take part in Beta: is it possible to turn > back to 9.5.1 if some things in V10 don't work as expected? Yes. I don't think it would be a problem. But I hope we didn't break anything so you'll stay on v10 :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello George, > Вы писали 28 апреля 2022 г., 14:59:41: >> - improve Virtual Folders using indexed database > Is this about fast search that I ask RitLabs 15+ years?)) Well, not exactly, but for many simple search criterias it will be used too, for sure. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Gwen, > But this installer does not set MAPI, mailto, eml, vcf etc. in Windows 11 :/ This is another reason to use the 64-bit version :-) It looks like newer versions of Windows do not allow 32-bit applications to be set as a default client. We'll need to investigate it further, though... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Gwen, > The launcher does not Start The Bat! 10.0.1 (32bit). > I have to start by dbl-click "C:\Program Files (x86)\The > Bat!\TBLauncher32.exe" Oops. Thank you! Please redownload the installation package and reinstall it - it was a last minute error in the script By the way, why do you use 32-bit version (I guess you're running a 64-bit OS)? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello John, > Do you have an ETA for v10 of Voyager? I think it'll become available in a couple of weeks from now as we collect some extensive feedback and make necessary fixes. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 is now released
Hello All, The Bat! v10 is now released and is available for download from https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Here is a summary of changes since v9.5.1 [+] Calendar functionality [+] Completely redesigned Address Book [+] New component-based update system that allows installing updated components without the need of downloading entire installation packages [+] Birthday event is added to the calendar after setting new birth date for a contact [+] /OFFLINE and /ONLINE command line parameters to start/switch The Bat! into offline/online mode on start or while it's running [+] Read/Unread label in the Summary column [*] User pictures are now round instead of rectangle in the Summary View [*] Summary Column layout changed [*] CEF was updated to v99.2.14 [*] Ctrl+Y now works as Redo in both HTML and MicroEd editors [-] Customized toolbars and menus could misplace buttons [-] Archive password was shown in the scheduler's backup action listing [-] Automatic list generation in HTML is now switched off (will be made optional in the future) [-] Automatic switching into HTML editor by using text formatting was working incorrectly when multiple paragraphs were selected Thank you all for support and testing! We are continuing development and here are the major things we plan to focus on next few months: - HTML editor improvements - we also think of getting back the previous (RTF based) HTML editor as an option - improve GnuPG support - improve Virtual Folders using indexed database -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov pgpBc0ETlqDFS.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 8
Hello Peter, > *still* "Invalid Type Cast" error on every start. Please send the exceptions log to me -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 8
Hello Andrei, > Installed over beta6 on W11 - does not run, asking for cef/vk_swiftshader.* > and cef\vulkan-1.dll How did you install it exactly? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 8
Hello George, >> Non-autoupdate versions are here: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-0-0-7.msi >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-0-0-7.msi > 404 error https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-0-0-8.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-0-0-8.msi Yeah, it should be 8 at the end :) Thank you! -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 beta 8
Hello All, v10 beta 8 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/10 Here's a short list of changes: [+] Birthday event is added to calendar after setting new birth date for a contact [*] Keep The Bat! network login validity for two days [*] Update CEF to v99.2.14 [*] "New Contact" caption in contact creation view in the new Address Book is automatically replaced after focusing "Name" field [*] "Email" field is added by default in contact creation [-] Extra characters were added upon changing the font of the highlighted text portion [-] Empty fields were skipped when moving between contact's properties by keyboard [-] "Fax" and "Cellular" contact phone numbers from old Address Book are now shown in the new one and marked as "Legacy [-] It was not possible to add an event attendee using only email address Non-autoupdate versions are here: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-0-0-7.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-0-0-7.msi -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can The Bat be started without an Internet connection?
Hello Manuel, > Unfortunately, I read that the version 10 beta requires an internet > connection to start. But so far there was no real answer from Stefan or > Alex if this will be the case with the final version. I believe there was a statement on this matter, but here I am repeating - the official release of version 10 will NOT require online The Bat! Network login or token validity check. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 6
Hello Stuart, > So if I select the other file then it will update automatically without my > intervention? With automatic update, you just need to restart The Bat! after the updated components are installed -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 6
Hello George, > Minus means it still not done? I can't move left/right my own buttons in the > interface. The "[-]" means "bug/problem fixed" -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 beta 6
Dear All, v10 beta 6 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/9 It is recommended to uninstall the Beta you have currently installed and install the newer MSI because major fixes were made to the installation process itself. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 6
Hello All, > Version v10 beta 6 is available The message was sent too early, sorry :) Beta 6 will be available as soon as it passes internal testing -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 beta 6
Dear All, Version v10 beta 6 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-0-0-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-0-0-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-0-0-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-0-0-6.msi Here is a short list of changes: [-] Fixes to file association and MAPI handling [-] Customized toolbars and menus could misplace buttons [*] Ctrl+Y now works as Redo in both HTML and MicroEd editors [-] System's "Send To" shortcut was not working correctly (Beta) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 beta 5
Hello All, The Bat! v10 beta 5 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/8 Please check it out with Help | Check for update Here is a short list of changes: [+] Read/Unread label added [*] Images in Address History are now round too [*] Event properties window can now be called via double-clicking the event in Calendar [*] Address book now remembers the state if certain address book/group children were shown or hidden [*] Group nesting is available in new Addess Book [*] Summary view layout changed [-] "Add to Address book" in Address History was still opening old Address Book [-] Archive password was shown in the scheduler's backup action listing [-] Address Book popup menus could've been inactive after second opening of Address Book [-] It was possible to create an address book without name or with the same name as an existing address book [-] Redundant prompt removed after saving new contact We also have "old fashioned" MSI packages without automatic updates and possible problems with taskbar icon for test: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/nau_thebat_32_10-0-0-5.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/nau_thebat_64_10-0-0-5.msi -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 beta 4
Hello All, The Bat! v10 beta 4 is now available https://beta.thebat.net/version/7 Because this version fixes problems with installing file associations and MAPI handling, the previously installed version must be uninstalled before installing this Beta. Further updates could be installed by Help|Check for update (we hope). Here is a short list of changes: [+] Add /OFFLINE and /ONLINE command line parameters to start/switch The Bat! into offline/online mode on start or while it's running [-] (Beta) Problems with file associations and MAPI support [-] Automatic list generation in HTML is now switched off (will be made optional in future) [-] Automatic switching into HTML editor by using text formatting was working incorrectly when multiple paragraphs were selected [-] "Division by zero" error in Calendar [-] Check for Updates could crash the program -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 2 .eml opens as new email with attached this eml
Hello George, > I do change to open .eml through windows mail app. But I don't wanna use it > another app for this. Is anyone have this problem too? This will be fixed in the Beta 3, it will be available soon. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V10 beta: It is time for me to step aside
Dear MAU, > SO LONG MY FRIENDS! IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE! AND PLEASE TAKE CARE! It is really sad and I hope that one day you decide to come back looking where this thing is going. It was a great pleasure to get help from you and to communicate with you on numerous TB! lists through all these years. And I owe you a lot of beers! And guys from Ritlabs do. And I sincerely hope one day I will pay at least some of our debt ;-) Take care, Miguel, I wish you all the best. And please do keep an eye on this list as I hope we will deliver some interesting stuff soon! -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1
Hello George, > For example: this site can be under ddos attack, or can be blocked by > government by mistake (usual situation in Russia, China and other power > countries), etc, etc, etc. And your user will be without WORK. Please stop > this madness behavior. This is a valid point and this is why this will be changed as soon as we solve all problems during Beta test. But another valid point is - it's not a reasonanle idea to rely on a beta of any software in your daily work :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 2
Hello Ethan, > However, I cannot get Beta .2 to work at all. > Is there a fix forthcoming? Yes - as soon as we find the reason of the failures. Please send me your exception logs, so we can examine what's happening. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 beta 2
Hello All, The Bat! v10 beta 2 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/6 Please uninstall the previous beta before installing this one. Further, we will make it possible to perform modular updates without manual download and installing (hopefully :) Improvements: + User pictures and initials in Summary View are now round instead of rectangle Fixes: - "CEF binaries missing" bug fixed - Possible Address Book crash reason fixed - Version update component was missing -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1 new ticket system
Hello, > Не theme, а subject или issue >> Ticket functionality is still under development, you may use >> https://bt.ritlabs.com or standard support ticket at https://ritlabs.com >> with corresponding theme oops. Looks like I've found another issue :-) I've changed the "To" address before going into the message body, but it reverted to whatever was set there by the "Reply to Sender" command. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1
Hello Zygmunt, > I succesfuly installed and run this beta version. However, I cannot see any > option to set language interface. Only English version is available. I guess, that's the same bug that prevents some users to run this beta. We've fixed it, so the new beta will be available later today. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1 new ticket system
Hello Alex, Не theme, а subject или issue > Ticket functionality is still under development, you may use > https://bt.ritlabs.com or standard support ticket at https://ritlabs.com with > corresponding theme -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1 and Antipamsniper
Hello George, Thank you for noticing! We'll contact them today > After installing antispam sniper window says that new version of TB isn't > supported. Please connect with plugin creator and check this. Isn't anything > changing according spam killing as I understand. Without that plugin I can't > work normally. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v10 Beta 1
Hello All, Finally, we are starting public Beta testing for v10 Here is a repost from https://www.ritlabs.com/en/news/7745/ We have waited for the new version for quite a long time and today we are happy to announce the start of The Bat! v10 beta-testing! Loyal The Bat! users have participated in beta-testing of The Bat! for years, but now every owner of The Bat! v9 license has gained the opportunity to test the next major version before it is officially released. To take part in the beta-testing of The Bat! v10 you need to register at our beta-portal https://beta.thebat.net. Fill in your name, email address and input The Bat! v9 serial number (you can check it in the “Help → About” menu). Thus, you will create your The Bat! Network account. You will be able to view the revision history of beta-versions and download the installation file of the beta-version at this portal. We plan to implement further features at our beta-portal in the future to make The Bat! testing even more comfortable! The users of earlier versions of The Bat! (starting from v7) also have the chance to take part in the beta-testing of the newest version. If you are one of them, just register at the beta-portal, input your The Bat! registration key and apply for participation. We will grant the access to beta-versions randomly. The earlier you register, the greater the chance to get the newest beta-version! All the owners of the older The Bat! versions can purchase the license upgrade now and take the advantage of the free Smart Upgrade program. The new key will be valid for all The Bat! v9.xx versions and will allow the users to upgrade to The Bat! v10 without additional charges and start The Bat! v10 beta-testing right away! What is the essence of the beta-testing? You can help us find all the faults and bugs of the newer version and thus contribute to its quicker release. The Bat! v10 features the new Address Book and Calendar (under the „Tools“ menu). It would be great if you test all their functions that you use in your everyday e-mail-management. To report the issues, please create tickets in our Support Center: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/ Describe the exact steps to reproduce the error so that we could quickly fix it. Please remember to assign the The Bat! v10 beta category to your ticket. To share your impression and general thoughts on the new version you can just send an email to betafeedb...@ritlabs.com. We will read all the emails and make conclusions! Good luck to everyone! -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php
Hello Gwen, > This was a broken implementation of IMAP over SSL protocol in The Bat!? I would consider it as forcing a strange restriction at the server side. Especially because sending an innocent CAPABILITY command was not caused any problem for decades. Strictly speaking, not allowing any input from client before server's response is a clear violation of the IMAP standard since IMAP does not mean to be synchronous - i.e. server and client do not need to wait each other response unless there is some [designed] logic behind that wait. > Do we get a fix for older versions? I have customers and users with 9.1, 8.x > and older. They need to contact the support to check what can be done there. There is a problem to rebuild older versions due to significant toolset change, I'm afraid... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: https://www.ritlabs.com/de/products/thebat/download.php
Hello Martin, > I got notice that there is an update for 9.5 to 9.5.1 - that's great. > But why didn't we got this news in this list? It's a hotfix release, we had to make a patch quickly, that's why we didn't make announce. Sorry about that. Here is a complete list of changes in 9.5.1 [-] It was not possible to configure/edit/delete the first tag in the list of tag (usually it was the "Bank" tag) [-] Some IMAP servers terminated connections and returned the "BYE out-of-sync data before server greeting" error message The last one was the actual reason for hotfix -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.5 MSI
Hello All, The Bat! v9.5 Christmas Edition MSIs are now available: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-5.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-5.msi Heres is a short list of changes: [+] /SMTPHOST= command line parameter to specify domain passed in the SMTP greeting (EHLO/HELO). Could also be added as a line into an account's memo for account-specific use [*] %SetEditor template macro is now accepting parameters "plain", "text" and "HTML" for setting desirable editor type [*] Store last format (plain text or HTML) used for a new Quick Template [*] More straight-forward logic of HTML templates use for replies and new messages [-] Automatic switching to HTML format was not available for template editor [-] Some attachments could be hidden from the attachment list as HTML-related parts [-] (#02090) Re-filtering Log was "white on white" in dark themes We continue working on v10 and it takes more time than we expected due to various reasons, so please stay tuned :-) Thank you for your support and our team wishes you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding in IMAP
Hello Stuart, > I'm not sure how long this has been going on, but I noticed today that all > the little icons that denote a message has been forwarded are lost when > moving the message to a different folder. This is IMAP. The green icon > denoting a Replied email are there, but no forwarding icons. This flag should be supported by the server now as it's a non-standard one, the same stands for colour groups. We plan to add a feature to keep those custom flags in own database for better consistency... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.3
Hello Richard, > There is a problem with %Quotes in reply templates. >I use %Quotes after the salutation (to edit quotes for responses) and > after the signature closing to reproduce the full stream of a message. The > quote appears after the salutation. After the signature only the original > header appears without an stream of text. Examples, please? Please make sure the template is not overridden by a folder or a contact template. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.3
Hello Jernej, > Looks like the problem with missing linebreaks in HTML messages has been > fixed. Yeah, it should. For some reason, the change was not marked for the changelog... Thank you for confirmation! -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.4.5.3
Dear All, Version 9.4.5.3 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.3-x32-full.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.3-x64-full.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.3-x32.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.3-x64.7z Here is a short list of changes: [*] %SetEditor template macro is now accepting parameters "plain", "text" and "HTML" for setting desirable editor type [*] More straight-forward logic of HTML templates use for replies and new messages [-] Automatic switching to HTML format was not available for template editor -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Need application-specific password for Gmail
Hello Stuart, >> I guess you don't use Google's OAUTH authentication, do you? :-) > Can you explain what you mean by this? Sure. The Bat! supports Google OAUTH authentication for about 5 years now and it is the recommended way to access Gmail. However, some users continue use of traditional authentication, so Google is tickling them by forcing them to use app-specific passwords, allowing access of "unsafe" applications etc. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Need application-specific password for Gmail
Hello MAU, > When I started TB and tried to collect email, the response was: > !09/12/2021, 18:46:29: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR > [AUTH] Application-specific password required: > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 I guess you don't use Google's OAUTH authentication, do you? :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.2
Hello Jernej, > When replying to HTML messages with a plain-text template, the linebreaks are > missing. Please provide some examples. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.2
Hello Gunivortus,
> Just installed, wrtiting this now
> It seems, something in this editor changed, see the links and the footer.
> Is there something in the settings I have to set now?
Here is what I see in the stylesheet of your message:
.email-signature {font-family:"Arial"; font-size: 14pt; font-style: italic;
font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; }
So, it seems that you've changed the font size in your signature to 14 and
didn't notice it...
--
Best regards,
Stefan Tanurkov
'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.4.5.2
Dear All, Version 9.4.5.2 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.2-x32-full.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.2-x64-full.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.2-x32.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.2-x64.7z Here is a short list of changes: [+] /SMTPHOST= command line parameter to specify domain passed in the SMTP greeting (EHLO/HELO). Could also be added as a line into an account's memo for account-specific use [*] Store last format (plain text or HTML) used for a new Quick Template [-] Some attachments could be hidden from the attachment list as HTML-related parts -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delayed mailing - potential bug
Hello Ethan, > I wonder if it is IMAP settings. It also could be the IMAP server. What is the software running there? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5 32bit - Can not Google Auth anymore for a new GMail account
Hello Gwen, There was an outdated certificate at our helper site appa.ritlabs.com for some reason (we're investigating it), now everything should be back to normal >> Seems CEF browser is now too old? > Woth other Mail clients like Vivaldi or Thunderbird adding accounts > with OAuth work nice. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line breaks in headers are not properly handled
> FWIW my lorem ipsum test mail was sent from The Bat, so no Outlook involved in > that one ;) Which means we need to sanitize outgoing address headers too :) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line breaks in headers are not properly handled
Hello Adrian, > Another one (this time a real one, not a test) has this in the header: > To: =?utf-8?Q?Adrian_M=C3=B6nnich?= , > =?utf-8?Q?Jose_XXX=0D=0A_XXX_Lopez?= Thank you! > I have the feeling it's our ancient Exchange 2010 (!) that's adding those > spurious line breaks. Yeah, it looks like the sweet pair of Outlook + Exchange make wonders together :-) It's a rare problem, but I agree we need to sanitize address fields in a more friendly manner. No need for an entire message as I have all the info I need. Now, I'm waiting for Thomas Fernandez input as he has somewhat different issue but also about sanitizing the headers... Thanks again, please stay tuned! :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
