Re: 10-2-1-2 Sort in view mode by created/received works wrong with threads by "reference+subject"
10-3 works as needed with checkbox in column view about it. Thursday, October 27, 2022, 10:31:23 AM, you wrote: > Howdy! > In 10-2-1-2 In view mode with sorting by created/received works wrong with > threads by "reference+subject" > > early it was push sorting whole thread to the edge after receiving new > message, now thread stays on a place where "main" message of the thread > stays. > > See attached image > Best Regards, George Salnik > RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator -- С ув. Георгий Сальник, Директор ООО "Белрус" 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10-2-1-2 Sort in view mode by created/received works wrong with threads by "reference+subject"
Howdy! In 10-2-1-2 In view mode with sorting by created/received works wrong with threads by "reference+subject" early it was push sorting whole thread to the edge after receiving new message, now thread stays on a place where "main" message of the thread stays. See attached image Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template to clean subject
On 27 February 2019 at 17:25 Assad Kety wrote and made these points
AK> I'm using the following template to clean subject line. It works well
AK> until a subject starts with a square bracket. For example, if a subject
AK> looks something like this '[Re: Hello]', the template does not
AK> work. I receive a lot of messages which start with square bracket in
AK> my work. Thanks in advance.
AK> %SETHEADER("Subject","Re: %-
AK>
%SetPattRegExp='(?i)\A\:?(\s*(vs|sv|re|I|R|aw|ha|rcpt|fw|fwd|forw|odp|pd|tr|wg|tr)%-
AK> (\[\d{1,3}\])?:\s*|\[.*?\])*\s*(.*?)\Z'%-
AK> %RegExpBlindMatch='%OSubject'%SubPatt='4'")%-
Here's the one I use:
%___%REM="clean subject - by daniel hahler"%%-
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%Subject="%-
%SetPattRegExp='(?ix)\A:?
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%___%-
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Template to clean subject
Hello,
I'm using the following template to clean subject line. It works well
until a subject starts with a square bracket. For example, if a subject
looks something like this '[Re: Hello]', the template does not
work. I receive a lot of messages which start with square bracket in
my work. Thanks in advance.
%SETHEADER("Subject","Re: %-
%SetPattRegExp='(?i)\A\:?(\s*(vs|sv|re|I|R|aw|ha|rcpt|fw|fwd|forw|odp|pd|tr|wg|tr)%-
(\[\d{1,3}\])?:\s*|\[.*?\])*\s*(.*?)\Z'%-
%RegExpBlindMatch='%OSubject'%SubPatt='4'")%-
--
Best regards,
Assad
Using The Bat! 8.8.2
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1
Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[no subject]
Hello Maxim, you should consider storing the Splash images in program folder (instead incorporating in exe) and resize dependant on DPI of output device. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 8.6.0.21 (BETA) (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 17763 ) pgpWDURc5bHlj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
9/1/2017 12:53 PM Hi Lüko, On 8/31/2017 Lüko Willms wrote: LW>No, if after having explained at least 10 times what I am doing, LW> I still get treated like an idiot, Perhaps you are experiencing responses to your obvious invitation... LW>This is for discussing how to fix the errors in the program, not LW> to lecture experienced users like me. Thankfully no other forum user is as "experienced" as you! LW>And you start even insulting me! You go too far. You have been a great example of the inappropriate. >> it's a good practice in mailing lists not to send in HTML messages. LW> Maybe in this mailing list, but then this is a tiny exception. No LW> other of the dozen or more I am subscribed to is text only. LW> Unfortunately configuring text-only for this mailing list in TheBat! LW> doesn't work. It is tedious to do this on a message by message LW> basis... It is profoundly more tedious to endure your profusion of inaccurate drivel. LW> Besides, this outmoded refusal of HTML formatted messages here LW> might be related to the serious failings of TheBat! in dealing with LW> HTML messages, which needs urgent attention to be fixed. Allow me to introduce you to Outlook: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-com/ Then it will not matter that you have not properly configured your signature. It requires more than profound arrogance to become competent. LW> - LW> Mit freundlichen Grüßen LW> Lüko Willms LW> mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de - -- Paul 32bit TB 6.8.4 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Hello Lüko, > Unfortunately configuring text-only for this mailing list in TheBat! > doesn't work. NOT true. > It is tedious to do this on a message by message basis True. And I wonder why an "experienced user" like you does it that way -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 7.4.16 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Guten Tag Viktor Kabelac, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 13:39 schrieben Sie: >> I understand that you don't read what I write. >> I conclude that repetition wont help. >> End of discussion > It appears that you are slowly leaving courtesy lands and mentally > return to the wild times of elementary school. No, if after having explained at least 10 times what I am doing, I still get treated like an idiot, it is really time to call a halt and stop wasting time and space of this mailing list. You should not have tried to prolong it. This is for discussing how to fix the errors in the program, not to lecture experienced users like me. And you start even insulting me! You go too far. > it's a good practice in mailing lists not to send in HTML messages. Maybe in this mailing list, but then this is a tiny exception. No other of the dozen or more I am subscribed to is text only. Unfortunately configuring text-only for this mailing list in TheBat! doesn't work. It is tedious to do this on a message by message basis, and I beg the participants pardon if I should forget that once in a while. Besides, this outmoded refusal of HTML formatted messages here might be related to the serious failings of TheBat! in dealing with HTML messages, which needs urgent attention to be fixed. - Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Title: Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... ) Hallo Lüko, Thursday, August 31, 2017, 1:26:55 PM, you wrote: I understand that you don't read what I write. I conclude that repetition wont help. End of discussion It appears that you are slowly leaving courtesy lands and mentally return to the wild times of elementary school. You seem to be employing something "nobody else does" and complaining you make manual errors at that, request what no one else whats and what, in fact, has earlier been abolished, confuse non-present features with bugs and refuse advice. Then you say your last words and attempt to cut the discussion. Good luck with that. But better without. If I may have one wish, it's a good practice in mailing lists not to send in HTML messages. You seem to be the second here who sends them in. Would you consider using another TheBat! feature and set a correspinding mail format for the TheBat! list folder? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelac mailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Guten Tag MAU, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 12:44 schrieben Sie: > Are you really? Then why ask that the list server includes [TBbeta] in > the Subject? I understand that you don't read what I write. I conclude that repetition wont help. End of discussion -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Hello Lüko, >>> the proper one is "Header field = List-ID contains >>> tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com". > >> OK, I was just suggesting something that works for me. Anyway, if you >> want to use 'List-Id', go into Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor- >> Message Headers, add the List-Id header and you will be able to use it >> as you wish in a filter. > >You are preaching to the choir... I am doing that for decades... Are you really? Then why ask that the list server includes [TBbeta] in the Subject? >But it needs to be stressed: the proper way to filter mailing lists > is to use the List-ID header. Include the List-Id header in the list of headers as I have told you and you will be able to use it. >And I preach for many many years to the developers of email clients > that they should present that header in their filter builders. The Bat! will present that header, or any other, if it is included in the list of headers in 'Message Headers'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 7.4.16 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Guten Tag MAU, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 12:01 schrieben Sie: >> the proper one is "Header field = List-ID contains >> tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com". > OK, I was just suggesting something that works for me. Anyway, if you > want to use 'List-Id', go into Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor- > Message Headers, add the List-Id header and you will be able to use it > as you wish in a filter. You are preaching to the choir... I am doing that for decades... But it needs to be stressed: the proper way to filter mailing lists is to use the List-ID header. And I preach for many many years to the developers of email clients that they should present that header in their filter builders. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Hello Lüko, >> Try: Header field - Reply-to - contains - tbbeta > > No, no, the proper one is "Header field = List-ID contains > tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com". OK, I was just suggesting something that works for me. Anyway, if you want to use 'List-Id', go into Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor- Message Headers, add the List-Id header and you will be able to use it as you wish in a filter. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 7.4.16 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line
Guten Tag Marck Pearlstone, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 10:11 schrieben Sie: > Had you used the sorting office to pre-filter all messages with the > list header (this filtering is done using headers only), I'm at odds to grasp what you want to tell me. Do you want to suggest that I can get Exim's POP3 server to pre-filter all incoming mail? I don't think so. BTW, configuring this mailing list's folder in The Bat! to create "text only" does not work. Another failing of TheBat! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: HTML use (was: Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line)
Guten Tag Marck Pearlstone, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 10:11 schrieben Sie: > Please do not send HTML messages to the list OK, I'll try to find out how to create a special filter for this mailing list. Anyway, The Bat! has many issues with HTML, the worst being trying to set up nested tables instead of using enclosing the quoted text in "" and "" Using HTML on this list could help to clean up that mess. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Guten Tag MAU, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 09:33 schrieben Sie: >> If only TheBat would propose the List-ID as a standard filtering criterium... > Try: Header field - Reply-to - contains - tbbeta No, no, the proper one is "Header field = List-ID contains tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com". The List-ID according to RFC 2919 https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt is the proper way to filter mailing lists (as long as the mailing list is properly set up). That works, it is just an error of The Bat! not to offer this filtering criterion in the user interface, forcing the user to type in "List-ID" for each and every mailing list filter. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line
Dear Lüko, On 31 August 2017 at 06:00 wil...@luekowillms.de wrote and made these points LW>I'm new to this mailing list, so please bear with me that I LW> have never had the honor to meet you before. Welcome. And you have your answer. I have already stated that we /used/ to use the [listname] and we stopped. It is not open to discussion. ... >> You do manual spam filtering with the Despatcher before >> downloading? Wow. You must have a lot of time on your hands. ... LW> • doing it that way actually saves time, as my brain is faster LW> than the PC and makes less errors (a programmed spam filter would Had you used the sorting office to pre-filter all messages with the list header (this filtering is done using headers only), not only would the filtering have been far quicker than the human brain and eye and more accurate, but only spam would have remained. LW> • browsing the incoming mail before it is filtered to the LW> various specific folders gives me the hints as to where I should LW> look first for something interesting. LW> And: "I do it my way!" as the famous song goes. Others have suggested that there are better, more efficient ways than "your way". Just because you use a less efficient and less accurate method of sorting your email than the rest of us here, you should not be asking us to change something that has been working well for more than a decade just to accommodate a single user. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.4.16.45 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.15063 pgpUdxv53QSRw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Hello Lüko, > If only TheBat would propose the List-ID as a standard filtering criterium... Try: Header field - Reply-to - contains - tbbeta It has worked for me for many many years. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 7.4.16 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Hello everybody, am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 03:16 schrieb Eddie: >> I was about to delete those three mails from unknown senders with >> a strange Subject line, when I became second thoughts. > Unknown Sender? > I thought my eMail was clear to the list as I am with this account > since many years part of this team. I'm new to this mailing list, so please bear with me that I have never had the honor to meet you before. But, a FROM free form name of only a given name, and a one word Subject line are quite sure signs for a spam message, this resembles too much those from a e.g. "Lilian" with Subject "Hello". am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 03:17 schrieb Eddie: >> this Subject "ping" from three senders > Do you mean you got my eMail 3x (three times)? no, there were two replies to it. And that's probably what made me think that this may be not spam despite all the spam-like appearances. am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 um 03:42 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: You do manual spam filtering with the Despatcher before downloading? Wow. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Not really, • doing it that way actually saves time, as my brain is faster than the PC and makes less errors (a programmed spam filter would have deleted those messages from some "Eddie" with Subject "Ping"), and • browsing the incoming mail before it is filtered to the various specific folders gives me the hints as to where I should look first for something interesting. And: "I do it my way!" as the famous song goes. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Title: Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... ) Hello Lüko, Thursday, August 31, 2017, 4:00:09 AM, you wrote: Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, and all the others am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 16:27 schrieben Sie: If you set up your filters correctly, only real list mails will make it into the TBBETA folder. And the list will not let anybody who is not a member post ot it. Why does everybody think that I need an education in filtering? No, that is beyond the point. If only TheBat would propose the List-ID as a standard filtering criterium... With the accounts whose mailbox addresses have a public exposure and thus are prone to spam, I check new mail with the "Postfachinspektor" as TheBat! calls that in German, and delete everything which looks like spam, before downloading them from the server to my PC. So I had nearly deleted those three messages from complete strangers with a one-word Subject line typical for spam messages. To avoid losing messages on the TBbeta mailing list which might be interesting to me, I proposed to get Mailman to mark the messages with the message name, as all other mailing lists which I subscribe to. You do manual spam filtering with the Despatcher before downloading? Wow. You must have a lot of time on your hands. I, on the other hand, have limited space on my screen and I don't need the subject to take space for the list name, as the mail is already in the list folder. So I know to which list it belongs, and I prefer to have space for the actual subject rather than redundant information. -- Cheers, Thomas. Travel Map: http://matadornetwork.com/travel-map/db757901ff009eef93a2fc09521fb6bf-1482632877 Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Virus-free. www.avast.com Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Dear Lüko, --->>> Lüko Willms / Wednesday 30-Aug-17, 12:49:24 [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... ) > this Subject "ping" from three senders Do you mean you got my eMail 3x (three times)? -- best regards | Using The Bat! Version 7.4.16.13 (BETA) (32-bit) Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Dear Lüko, --->>> Lüko Willms / Wednesday 30-Aug-17, 20:07:05 [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... ) > I was about to delete those three mails from unknown senders with > a strange Subject line, when I became second thoughts. Unknown Sender? I thought my eMail was clear to the list as I am with this account since many years part of this team. Anyway I am happy you got it :) Thanks -- best regards | Using The Bat! Version 7.4.16.13 (BETA) (32-bit) Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, and all the others am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 16:27 schrieben Sie: If you set up your filters correctly, only real list mails will make it into the TBBETA folder. And the list will not let anybody who is not a member post ot it. Why does everybody think that I need an education in filtering? No, that is beyond the point. If only TheBat would propose the List-ID as a standard filtering criterium... With the accounts whose mailbox addresses have a public exposure and thus are prone to spam, I check new mail with the "Postfachinspektor" as TheBat! calls that in German, and delete everything which looks like spam, before downloading them from the server to my PC. So I had nearly deleted those three messages from complete strangers with a one-word Subject line typical for spam messages. To avoid losing messages on the TBbeta mailing list which might be interesting to me, I proposed to get Mailman to mark the messages with the message name, as all other mailing lists which I subscribe to. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Title: Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... ) Hello Lüko, Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 8:07:05 PM, you wrote: Guten Tag Uwe Steinfeld, and all the others am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 14:20 schrieben Sie: > NO, don't do that, please. > There is always the header "List-Id: " in > each mail on this list. So you can perfectly filter for TBBETA mails > and don't have to uglify the subject. before the filter gets his work, I look at incoming mail to avoid spam mails to be downloaded to my PC in the first place. Postfachinspektor rulez... I was about to delete those three mails from unknown senders with a strange Subject line, when I became second thoughts. If you set up your filters correctly, only real list mails will make it into the TBBETA folder. And the list will not let anybody who is not a member post ot it. Please do not let the whole list membership suffer because your filters are not set up correctly - we'll be happy to help you with it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16.33 (ALPHA) under Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Guten Tag Uwe Steinfeld, and all the others am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 14:20 schrieben Sie: > NO, don't do that, please. > There is always the header "List-Id: " in > each mail on this list. So you can perfectly filter for TBBETA mails > and don't have to uglify the subject. before the filter gets his work, I look at incoming mail to avoid spam mails to be downloaded to my PC in the first place. Postfachinspektor rulez... I was about to delete those three mails from unknown senders with a strange Subject line, when I became second thoughts. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line
Dear Uwe, On 30 August 2017 at 13:20 uwe.steinf...@online.de wrote and made these points ... >> configuration option to the Mailman mailing list processor to add >> e.g. [TBbeta] to the Subject line. US> NO, don't do that, please. US> There is always the header "List-Id: " in US> each mail on this list. So you can perfectly filter for TBBETA mails US> and don't have to uglify the subject. ... which was the thinking when we removed the [TBBETA] (et al) subject tags many years ago - back when we moved from Syafril's dutaint servers to a MailMan server under Johannes control. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v7.4.16.45 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.15063 pgpc10oxPV8Gq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
Hello Lüko, Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 7:49:24 AM, you wrote: > My first thought on seeing this Subject "ping" from three senders > unbeknownst to me made me think that it is spam. > This could be avoided if the Ritlabs people would please add the > configuration option to the Mailman mailing list processor to add > e.g. [TBbeta] to the Subject line. NO, don't do that, please. There is always the header "List-Id: " in each mail on this list. So you can perfectly filter for TBBETA mails and don't have to uglify the subject. -- Best regards, Uwe Using The Bat! 7.4.16.33 (ALPHA) (x64) on Windows 10 Build 15063 Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[TBbeta] Please configure Mailman to insert an ID for this list in the Subject line (was: Ping ... )
My first thought on seeing this Subject "ping" from three senders unbeknownst to me made me think that it is spam. This could be avoided if the Ritlabs people would please add the configuration option to the Mailman mailing list processor to add e.g. [TBbeta] to the Subject line. Guten Tag Franz Schöler, am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 02:59 schrieben Sie: > the old Pete Seeger song: there's a season the lyrics of which is actually taken from the judeo-christian bible, Old Testament "Ecclesiastes" chapter 3 (German: Prediger III) with some modifications and additions. The song got more prominence by the group "The Byrds". Cheers, Lüko Willms Frankfurt am Main mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello tbbeta, If an income message has an open parenthesis in the subject, TB! hangs on downloading it. Outlooks downloads it correctly. Looking at the IMAP log it would appear the the server does not deliver the message to TB! However, as I said Outlook downloads it correctly so I don't believe that it's the server at fault. I now think that TB! only records logging info after the message has been partly processed by TB! and is not the raw socket data... This has been plaguing me for months and months and I can now recreate it at will by sending myself a message with an open parenthesis in the subject. I'll forward a copy of this message to RitLabs with an open paren. -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 with IMAP on Windows XP 5.1.Service Pack 3 Build: 2600 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
If an income message has an open parenthesis in the subject, TB! hangs on downloading it. Outlooks downloads it correctly. Looking at the IMAP log it would appear the the server does not deliver the message to TB! However, as I said Outlook downloads it correctly so I don't believe that it's the server at fault. I now think that TB! only records logging info after the message has been partly processed by TB! and is not the raw socket data... This has been plaguing me for months and months and I can now recreate it at will by sending myself a message with an open parenthesis in the subject. I'll forward a copy of this message to RitLabs with an open paren. P.S. I have access to my server so I can delete the message manually to free up the log jam in TB!. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Tbbeta, at 2013-03-13 11:46 you wrote: If an income message has an open parenthesis in the subject, TB! hangs on downloading it. Outlooks downloads it correctly. Can confirm this issue for my Courier IMAP server. TheBat! hangs and after timeout disconnects from server. TheBat! log shows: !13.03.2013, 13:04:43: IMAP - The server didn't reply anything to TImapDownloadFolderContentsAutoIdleRescan_Task command in 90 seconds But mail can be fetched wit Claws Mail, Thunderbird and Samsung S3 E-Mail (Android 4.1) -- Regards GwenDragon Using The Bat! v5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 pgphlxQLAG7jr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Gwen, A reminder of what GwenDragon typed on: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 13:12:22 GMT +0100 G But mail can be fetched wit Claws Mail, Thunderbird and Samsung S3 E-Mail G (Android 4.1) Go Android. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v5.3.8.3 (BETA) On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Tbbeta, Please confirm bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 -- Regards GwenDragon Using The Bat! v5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 pgpiyb2B4TPzv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
G'day Please confirm bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 I tried it multiple time, but am not able to re-produce this. TheBat! runs without hanging here. Marcus -- Marcus J. Using TheBat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 Pro Mailserver: MDaemon 13.5 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 12:12:22 PM, you wrote: Can confirm this issue for my Courier IMAP server. TheBat! hangs and after timeout disconnects from server. TheBat! log shows: !13.03.2013, 13:04:43: IMAP - The server didn't reply anything to TImapDownloadFolderContentsAutoIdleRescan_Task command in 90 seconds But mail can be fetched wit Claws Mail, Thunderbird and Samsung S3 E-Mail (Android 4.1) Oh, thank goodness you've confirmed it because it's taken a lot of tracking down. Note added to: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Stuart, Go Android. or Outlook (ugh!) -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Marcus, I tried it multiple time, but am not able to re-produce this. TheBat! runs without hanging here. Are you on IMAP? Do you know which server? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello GwenDragon, Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 2:04:05 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, Please confirm bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 Sorry, cannot confirm on IMAP account. -- Best regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 3 POP3 accounts, 4 IMAP accounts, no OTFE, AntispamSniper 3.3.1.5 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Uwe, Please confirm bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 Sorry, cannot confirm on IMAP account. Which IMAP server do you use? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Tony, Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 2:45:01 PM, you wrote: Which IMAP server do you use? I do not know which kind of server they are, but I tried the IMAP servers of Gmail and Strato. -- Best regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 3 POP3 accounts, 4 IMAP accounts, no OTFE, AntispamSniper 3.3.1.5 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Uwe, I do not know which kind of server they are, but I tried the IMAP servers of Gmail and Strato. I can confirm that TB! does NOT hang on gmail's IMAP server. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 14:33:44, Tony Hoare wrote: Are you on IMAP? Do you know which server? I can't reproduce this either, server is Dovecot 2.something. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Trust only those who stand to lose as much as you when things go wrong. -- Chase's Rule For Success Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 5:46:36 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: If an income message has an open parenthesis in the subject, TB! hangs on downloading it. Outlooks downloads it correctly. sent myself message with subject Test (in parens) came through routinely. IMAP at fastmail. -- Dwight A. Corrin h: 316.303.9385 c: 316.207.6581 dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hello Dwight, sent myself message with subject Test (in parens) came through routinely. IMAP at fastmail. Could you try a subject like: Test (open parens and delete the closing parenthesis. This is what Facebook does with long group names with parens. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 12:02:04 PM, Tony Hoare wrote: Could you try a subject like: Test (open parens and delete the closing parenthesis. successful collecting mail with this subject line through fastmail and also through gmail -- Dwight A. Corrin h: 316.303.9385 c: 316.207.6581 dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Hi Please confirm bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 Can't confirm on Dovecot IMAP server (port 993). -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Title: Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download Hello GwenDragon, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=157 You beat me to the bug report! -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Title: Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download Hello Uwe, I do not know which kind of server they are, but I tried the IMAP servers of Gmail and Strato. I can confirm that TB! does NOT hang on gmail's IMAP server. -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download
Dear GwenDragon, --- GwenDragon / Wednesday Wed 13. Mar 2013, 03:12 PM Open parenthesis in subject hangs TB! IMAP download If an income message has an open parenthesis in the subject, TB! hangs on downloading it. Outlooks downloads it correctly. Can confirm this issue for my Courier IMAP server. TheBat! hangs and after timeout disconnects from server. TheBat! log shows: I have this issue on friends computer - mentioned that here one but with no responses. I here this only, when he can't download any emails. Usually I told him to click on Close all Connections in CC and then do a re-fetch. That worked well. It does not happen regularly and contrary to others this is a POP3 connection. In the next days I will put the latest Beta on his Computer to see if changes happens. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Eddie | on Windows 7 6.1 | Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
Yes, it is possible with quick template containing simple regular expression This would not work when forwarding as an address book template but works correctly as a FOLDER template Thank you so much for this -- Rick We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. Plato v5.3.2.9 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
These macros can be a part of more advanced template. They only remove bracketed part of the original subject. See other examples in the collection assembled by Marck Pearlstone: http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php?category=Reply+template I just bookmarked it. Thanks again! -- Rick We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. Plato v5.3.2.9 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
-- Rick Blessed are the cracked, for they will let in the light. v5.3.2.9 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
Thanks! -- Rick It is as though, that when we peer down to the bottom of a well looking for Jesus, we see our own faces reflected in the water -- Albert Schweitzer v5.3.2.8 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
I am in some Yahoo groups. Each group ads an identifier in the subject, [bracketed text that can vary] I would like to parse out the brackets and text. Is there any way to do that? Thanks in advance -- Rick Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired v5.3.2.8 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
R I am in some Yahoo groups. Each group ads an identifier in the R subject, [bracketed text that can vary] R I would like to parse out the brackets and text. Is there any way to do that? R Thanks in advance This was supposed to go to TBUDL - resending -- Rick Help bring to a close, the Age of Greed v5.3.2.8 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.3.2.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[no subject]
Title: The Bat! Hello Tbbeta, PC left doing nothing for several hours - with TB! running. Came back to it and saw this 5.3.2.2 Beta -- Best regards, gandalfmeister mailto:gandalfmeis...@gmail.com Current beta is 5.3.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[no subject]
Title: The Bat! Hello Tbbeta, Config = IMAP based Google account, running Folder analyse on the inbox. I select "recommended actions" and get this as an error message. I just installed the latest beta 5.3.2.1 - and as I'm new here I don't know if this is a known issue. This problem also occurred with the last beta (5.3.2) Do I need to do something to make this work? -- Best regards, gandalfmeister mailto:gandalfmeis...@gmail.com Current beta is 5.3.2.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message when sending a mail: Message from XXXX, subject Re: YYYYY, is not properly addressed
It seems very much like this error doesn't happen is a valid bugfixing approach over at RITLabs... -- Viktor Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error message when sending a mail: Message from XXXX, subject Re: YYYYY, is not properly addressed
Hello, this is a message I got once earlier, today again. After replying to all to a message that contained people in To: and CC: and adding one BCC:, I got this message as a pop-up window: Message from , subject Re: Y, is not properly addressed Whatever I change on the addresses, doesn't seem to change anything on the outcome. TheBat! doesn't seem to have even communicated until this message came. The SMTP log doesn't contain anything to this send attempt. Do you have any idea where this problem could originate? When does TheBat! produce this message? UPDATE: this problem now seems to affect all accounts in my Thebat! I cannot send any mail from TheBat! at this moment (this is an alternative client, sorry if message arrives as HTML). Thank you, best regards. -- Best regards, Viktor mailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message when sending a mail: Message from XXXX, subject Re: YYYYY, is not properly addressed
Hallo Viktor, On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:50:20 +0200GMT (2-9-2011, 11:50:20 , where I live), you wrote: VK Message from , subject Re: Y, is not properly addressed VK Whatever I change on the addresses, doesn't seem to change anything on the VK outcome. VK TheBat! doesn't seem to have even communicated until this message came. VK The SMTP log doesn't contain anything to this send attempt. What version of TB are you using? What plug-ins? Are you using the same template for all of your accounts? Does the problem occur when you're replying to a single person too? -- Groetjes, Roelof A Fool and his Taglines are soon moderators. = Yikes! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpqpmDHi6nae.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message when sending a mail: Message from XXXX, subject Re: YYYYY, is not properly addressed
Hello Roelof, What version of TB are you using? What plug-ins? Are you using the same template for all of your accounts? Does the problem occur when you're replying to a single person too? I use the newest TB Beta, but it also affects the latest V5 MSI (and I actually later found forum messages as old as 2005, with no useful answer). I use Antispam Sniper, but also tried to deactivate it - no change. What do you mean by template? Mail template? I use none. The problem occurs in ANY mail, even the simplest, I try to send since today. I have developed a hypothesis: - today, I tried to download mails from a quite flawed POP3 server. - after that I get this error, no matter what I uninstall, reinstall or delete, the one thing that remains constant is the message base - is there a chance that te flawed server sent *something* (like a syntactically completely wicked sender, recipient address etc) and this address got recorded in some of TBs central account files so that any attempt to use this file ends with an error, ultimately leading to this message? Something like the address book or address history comes to my mind. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any file that had been changed today and seemed to contain addresses. RITLabs - could you maybe please shed some light on when TheBat! displays such a message i the first row? What is it checking? Is the check based on any msgbase files that get modified by downloaded messages? -- Thank you, best regards, Viktor Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[no subject]
Hello All, I have just had the attached error message appear. Can anybody tell me what it really means? I had just shut down the Connection Centre because it could not connect to my service provider. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.0.18.2 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1attachment: Bat error.png Current beta is 5.0.18.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.153 - Mail Ticker missing subject
The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500153.rar The Mail Ticker shows '0 new messages' in the subject for the first message, '1 new messages' for the second, etc. rather than the mail messages subject. Confirmations? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.153 RC3 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Status bar counter includes groups when threading by Subject/Sender/Recipient
Hello, when is threading by Subject/Sender/Recipient enabled for particular folder, I expand all groups and select all messages in folder by Ctrl+A, counter Selected messages in Status bar includes groups too. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8473 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
When displaying deleted messages, Subject is not crossed in Threading mode
Hello, when I enable Browse deleted messages, deleted messages are crossed in message list. When is threading mode disabled, everything including Subject is crossed, but in Threading mode, Subject is not crossed. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8266 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.125 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Editing the subject
With the recent subject line coming through the group Re: [SPAM?]: 5.0.0.99. OTFE users warning!!!, I would like to ask for the ability to edit the subject line Here's the link to support it https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 Thanks -- Rick When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car v4.0.0.16 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 9:53:26 AM, Rick wrote: With the recent subject line coming through the group Re: [SPAM?]: 5.0.0.99. OTFE users warning!!!, I would like to ask for the ability to edit the subject line Here's the link to support it https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 the last note was mine, so I won't do it again, but encourage others to sign on! -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.99 ALPHA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
On Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:21:16 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I'm not sure I said anything about IMAP (I don't use it anyway), but TBBETA seems to be slow because of the rewrite. I'm sure you did not mention IMAP. But you mentioned it was a good time to address this, and I assumed you were suggesting that while they are apparently doing a complete reworking of the code, it would be an especially good time to address this long overdue correction. Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
Hello Dwight, On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:21:46 -0500 GMT (13/Jun/10, 2:21 AM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: I'm not sure I said anything about IMAP (I don't use it anyway), but TBBETA seems to be slow because of the rewrite. DC I'm sure you did not mention IMAP. But you mentioned it was a good DC time to address this, and I assumed you were suggesting that while DC they are apparently doing a complete reworking of the code, it would DC be an especially good time to address this long overdue correction. Sure. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
On Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:34:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Good idea to bring this up again. R I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line in received emails R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added a bugnote. Hello Thomas, I see we meet again on this topic. You are right that the IMAP rewrite is a very good time to finally correct this longtime omission. Note added by me as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
Hello Dwight, On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:58:15 -0500 GMT (10/Jun/10, 23:58 PM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 DC I see we meet again on this topic. You are right that the IMAP DC rewrite is a very good time to finally correct this longtime omission. I'm not sure I said anything about IMAP (I don't use it anyway), but TBBETA seems to be slow because of the rewrite. DC Note added by me as well. Thanks. Let's see whether we can make difference. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Editing the subject line
I have had this out there for quite a while but since we have new people, perhaps they are willing to support it I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line in received emails Here's the link to support it https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 Thanks -- Rick When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
Hello Rick, On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:22:02 -0400 GMT (09/Jun/10, 23:22 PM +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R I have had this out there for quite a while but since we have new R people, perhaps they are willing to support it Good idea to bring this up again. R I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line in received emails R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added a bugnote. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
R I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line in received emails R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added a bugnote. thanks :) -- Rick When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Tbbeta, IMAP didn't get message bodies in 4.2.36, we've made 4.2.36.4, please test it and let me know. If you had 4.2.36 installed, please uninstall it prior to installing 4.2.36.4 www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-2-36-4.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-2-36-4.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-2-36-4.msi www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-2-36-4.msi -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no subject
Hi Marck, Ok - that one's a complete disaster! Only one account (my archive) remained after installing this build. Reverting to 4.2.36.2. same here! :( -- Best wishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Здравствуйте, Tbbeta. -- С уважением, Sergey Voronov svo...@gmail.com Current beta is 4.2.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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[The Bat! 4.2.12.2] Macro %Cursor=Subject does not work
Moin, folks! The macro %Cursor=Subject does not work if inserted into an addressee specific template: Address Book|Entry = Properties = New message| [x] Use a specific template for new messages Same macro in a normal template of an account *does* work. Any confirmation? Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using /\^o^/\! 4.2.12.2 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] Macro %Cursor=Subject does not work
Subject: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] .2 ? I've missed a build... where's the announcement message from Ritlabs ? -- Mackley Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] Macro %Cursor=Subject does not work
Hello all, Monday, November 2, 2009, Mackley wrote: Subject: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] .2 ? I've missed a build... where's the announcement message from Ritlabs ? this build is placed in MSI package -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.12.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] Macro %Cursor=Subject does not work
Ach!!! now I see. Thanks -- M. Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] Macro %Cursor=Subject does not work
Guten Tag Mackley, am Montag, 2. November 2009 um 15:27 schrieben Sie: Subject: [The Bat! 4.2.12.2] .2 ? I've missed a build... where's the announcement message from Ritlabs ? I think it is the MSI Message mid:1519929700164449...@ritlabs.com which has this Version. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.12.2 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.2.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2.1 Language-File-Checksum: 7347F234 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.10 r54097 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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After viewing several messages or folders the following error starts --- The Bat! --- System Error. Code: 1410. Class already exists. --- OK --- Restarting the bat will stop the error for a few minutes but then it starts up again -- Rick If you can dream it, you can do it. - Walt Disney v4.2.10.16 (ALPHA4) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell check the subject line?
Is there any way that The Bat! can be improved to also spell check the subject line? Yeah! That would be great! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus Bielefeld Axel Finger mailto:a...@die-fingers.de The Bat! 4.2.10.8 Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Tbbeta, The Bat! 4.2.10.3 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42103.rar What's new in 4.2.10.3 since 4.2.10.1: [*] Prepare for Certified for Windows 7 [-] When inserting a block from file in MicroEd, the editor window went to background, and the main The Bat! window was activated [-] Fixed an error GUIDEF Compiler:viewframe.def(629): illegal token in the ex_log.txt [-] In SMTP, the EHLO argument could contain local computer's name rather than fully-qualified domain name retrieved from DNS. -- Best regards, Maxim mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Wish] Automatic (was: ...), if subject line of reply is edited.
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2008-02-05 · 23:47 h (CET)]
Moin, folks!
Could there be a implementation, which does this like here:
Re: BETA (was: Re: 4.0.0.19)
That's WRONG! If it would ever be implemented, it should be
Re: BETA (was: 4.0.0.19)
Good idea! - My favorite news client (40tude Dialog) does so, too:
If you edit the subject line of a reply the client sets the original
subject in brackets like above.
I found a (quite good) solution for this problem:
a) Semiautomatic
- Create a Quicktemplate and (out of convenience) assign a shortcut:
%If:%Subj%OSubj:%Subject='Re: %Subj (was: %OSubj)':%Subj
- Reply to a message and edit the Subject line
- Hit Shortcut
- Be happy! :-)
b) Automatic
- Include the macros in your reply template:
%If:%Subj%OSubj:%Subject='Re: %Subj (was: %OSubj)':%Subj
- Reply to a message and edit the Subject line
- Be happy! :-)
Pro solution a):
You can run the QT at any time even if the textbody of the new message
is already modified.
Pro solution b):
The macros run really automatically! :-) But there are two
limitations:
1. The template must not contain the macro: %ModifyOnce(Subject)
2. The textbody must *not* be modified *before* you change the subject
line.
Maybe some of you like this solution, too. ;-)
Cheers!
VA
P.S.: Message is crossposted to: TBUDL Mailing List
- --
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Re: Feature Request Rewrite Subject
Guten Tag Vili, am Montag, 27. Juli 2009 um 22:49 schrieben Sie: During the time it is not implemented: Make the Memo field visible and you can edit that. TNX for the Workaround. (there is always a workaround...!?) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.9.4 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: F49817DD Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.2 r49928 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Request Rewrite Subject
Guten Tag The Bat! Beta, is there any chance to rewrite the Subject by a filter. I have: Subject: [Company of all People in Baden-Wuerttemberg] and i want to rewrite it to: Subject: [All People BW] Reason: then i can see the important rest of the Subject in the Mail Overview... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.9.4 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.2 r49928 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request Rewrite Subject
Guten Tag The Bat! Beta, is there any chance to rewrite the Subject by a filter. I have: Subject: [Company of all People in Baden-Wuerttemberg] and i want to rewrite it to: Subject: [All People BW] Reason: then i can see the important rest of the Subject in the Mail Overview... Would you like to see the ability to edit the subject line? Here's the link to support it lol https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar v4.2.9.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request Rewrite Subject
Guten Tag Rick, am Montag, 27. Juli 2009 um 22:38 schrieben Sie: Would you like to see the ability to edit the subject line? Yes, if this is meant by Filter Rules... Here's the link to support it lol I am supporting this since 19 Dec 2008 18:21 already... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.9.4 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: F49817DD Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.2 r49928 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request Rewrite Subject
is there any chance to rewrite the Subject by a filter. During the time it is not implemented: - new filter - condition: any message - action: set memo. template: %Subject - ok Make the Memo field visible and you can edit that. Maybe you can make up a template that use the memo filed when reply... Vili Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request Rewrite Subject
Guten Tag Rick, am Montag, 27. Juli 2009 um 22:38 schrieben Sie: Would you like to see the ability to edit the subject line? Yes, if this is meant by Filter Rules... Here's the link to support it lol I am supporting this since 19 Dec 2008 18:21 already... Good man! You must forgive me. I am just being a good salesman. :-) -- Rick You're only young once; you can be immature forever v4.2.9.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Editing the subject line
Just for old times sake ... I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line Here's the link to support it https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 Thanks -- Rick You and reality should get together and patch up your differences Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Editing the subject line
Hello Rick, On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:24:32 -0400 GMT (13/Jul/09, 0:24 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R Just for old times sake ... R I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added another supporting note. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Editing the subject line
Hello Rick, On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:24:32 -0400 GMT (13/Jul/09, 0:24 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R Just for old times sake ... R I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added another supporting note. Thanks - do you think we can get Max to support it? :)) -- Rick I'm having another It seemed like a good idea at the time moment v4.2.7.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Editing the subject line
Hello Rick, On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:17:17 -0400 GMT (13/Jul/09, 1:17 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added another supporting note. R Thanks - do you think we can get Max to support it? :)) I have no idea. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Editing the Subject Line
I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line Here's the link to support it The wish is in Bugtrack for quite some time, and I support it. It should be easy to implement and would finally be something very useful and a unique advantage of The Bat, as most other Mailers can't do it. -- Best regards, Carsten Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the Subject Line
I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line Here's the link to support it The wish is in Bugtrack for quite some time, and I support it. It should be easy to implement and would finally be something very useful and a unique advantage of The Bat, as most other Mailers can't do it. Pocomail is one that does. I think there are a couple of popular email progs that have this feature (Please - lets not start the program war again. IF you really love Pine over the Bat, stick with it silently) -- Rick Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. - James Dean v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
