Re[2]: 1.63 Beta/7
Hi Jonathan, JA Sounds about right ;) What sizes did you set for the fonts there? Maybe it did not sound so, but I could not install it because of that error, so I don't have XP on any of my machines here :-)) Well, this is very strange because I used the installation from MSDN... JA Which font is it? I'll have a play, and see if I can make it reappear JA somehow. The font is MS Sans Serif, size 8. Does XP have this font at all? I'm just wondering why other headers are displayed. By the way, how does the Beta looks like on XP? :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Access denied: nah nah na nah nah! Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 5:23:22 AM, you wrote: MDP Key validity has nothing to do with it. Key validity is about MDP perception, not key integrity. The import has worked. The key is MDP good. The signature is good. The key is not correctly signed with a MDP trusted certificate. Until it is, PGP perceives that key as MDP un-validated (aka invalid). Ok. Still learning about pgp. Lots. :-) BK I know this has been reported in prior betas. MDP I recommend that you join PGP-Basics and check out what Invalid MDP actually means there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already get it, just haven't had much time to read or participate. Sounds like I need to spend more time there. Maybe even in the archives. - -- Best regards, Bill Kraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPlRC/V+k60BsXnM1EQL4jgCdEcE7u11n6PvHO2o2rApc9i6bI/EAnjkE 3ZG31z6SEh9g42iZ5N23zDzx =W9wm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Stefan Tanurkov [ST] wrote:' ST Maybe it did not sound so, but I could not install it because of ST that error, so I don't have XP on any of my machines here :-)) Hmm. Sorry to hear this. Marck hasn't been able to install XP on his machine as well. It would seem that the OS is temperamental with some hardware configurations. ST The font is MS Sans Serif, size 8. Does XP have this font at all? Yes, it does. ST I'm just wondering why other headers are displayed. One of those mysteries to iron out. The header bars of the folder maintenance center do have that XP enhanced appearance though. See captures: http://www.landscreek.net/pics/xplook.png http://www.landscreek.net/pics/xplook2.png I remember that there were problems with making the message list column headers XP compatible. This is why only the folder pane column headers are XP compatible. Could this be the problem with the column headers for the folder maintenance center, i.e., the XP compatibility being there? ST By the way, how does the Beta looks like on XP? :-) As TB! always looked for the last few versions. No change that I've noted. - -- -=] allie_M [=- {List Moderator} - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html iD8DBQE+VEvLV8nrYCsHF+IRAsWDAJ40GT01cP0rDowrlYPLfwUII4FdAgCeL95D rOjuxfML4TJVTTHZqWTkT3k= =kyTC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bill, Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:52:36 PM, you wrote: Well, not quite. But I wanted to keep this in this thread. I'm not sure if this might be related to the column header text not showing on XP (although I run Win98SE). First of all, I've got an old Packard Bell that started out as a P133 with 16 megs of RAMa 1.5 gig HD. It's been beefed up with a an Evergreen cpu module with an AMD K6-II 333mhz, RAM to 104 meg, HD to 30 gig (with some helper software to recognize the whole thing), a Matrox Millenium II 4 meg video card, a Montego II soundcard, a PCI USB 1 card an ISA NIC for my DSL. Along with everything needed to keep all that humming on my old clunker, I have NOD32 AV, BOClean AT, Outpost Pro firewall, Proxomitron proxy, Alerts (part of WinPIM), and MaxMem memory manager all running most of the time. Bus speed, of course, unchanged from the original PB implementation. And my system is normally up 24/7. I mention all this just to indicate the environment in which the problem occurred. One of the emails I got tonight included a link to the results of a poll I had participated in. Clicking on the link brought up my default browser (Crazy Browser) at the appropriate site. I checked out a couple of pagesclosed the browser. I then started getting error message boxes saying Unable to repaint canvas, with THe Bat! in the titlebar. In order to eliminate the continuing error messages, I had to use the Ctrl-Alt-Del close program box to close The Bat!. When I reopened it, everything was fine. I've never seen this before with The Bat! and I'm not sure if it's internal or a system resources thing, but since this is a beta, I figured it ought to be checked. Sorry if I got too wordy, but I figured the more possibly applicable info I could supply, the more easily this one might get tracked down. - -- Best regards, Bill Kraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPlRMmV+k60BsXnM1EQIvZQCfZQPDle78lJdLYguwTVPpn4jvpIAAnA9j XiQnX1JzXUF8ZGlJEjL6md+f =j1ir -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote... JA Sounds about right ;) What sizes did you set for the fonts there? Maybe it did not sound so, but I could not install it because of that error, so I don't have XP on any of my machines here :-)) I think you're safer that way ;) I've had nothing but hell with XP and programming stuff. We had to modify nearly 190 applications because of XP, and it's bubble bar. Well, this is very strange because I used the installation from MSDN... It has been noted in many places that some hardware combinations will just kill XP completely. JA Which font is it? I'll have a play, and see if I can make it JA reappear somehow. The font is MS Sans Serif, size 8. Does XP have this font at all? I'm just wondering why other headers are displayed. Yes... it does have it... I should hope so at least... that is a standard font. I wonder if you're being kicked by something we were when we started looking at XP. Do you define the height of the header bars? We noticed that because of XP having that bubble bar, the client height messed up, which (on really close forms) caused a scroll bar to appear. If the form is non-sizeable, it could be possible that half the items vanish, or the header bar is resized to such a point where it is compressed so windows just doesn't display a font. If you can resize that, you're more than welcome to compile a quick version with a bigger header bar, and send it over, and I'll take a peek and see if it helped. By the way, how does the Beta looks like on XP? :-) Looks quite good. There was something I spotted, but I cannot remember what it was now, and as I'm at home, I'm back into my safe Win98 ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPlRjjyuD6BT4/R9zEQImTQCgrhWvqcELacAxrQ1oYck/T3DzUGYAoOau RY8MQReSX1ey0IWnxDZZ7vgf =gXk/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Costas, Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 3:38:30 PM, you wrote: Pressing back returns you to the original screen (as should do), but doesn't refresh the list. So the listed details are incorrect... CP Confirmed. (Windows 98SE). Same, here, also Win98SE. Although the no header titles does not seem to effect Win98. - -- Best regards, Bill Kraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPlL9CF+k60BsXnM1EQILwACgmzJq82qQPphR8AiJQ6C+WmgMHxkAoIQJ xud46PUXShorJ5rF9vk9atJm =mVHB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stefan, Monday, February 17, 2003, 9:35:45 PM, you wrote: ST Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] All, ST Version 1.63 Beta/7 is now available from ST http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb163b07.rar ST OK, may be not too much, but still something :-) One bug that persists is importing pgp keys. Tried importing a nonexpiring key from a gnugp user, then checked his signature on one of his messages. The Bat! said it was an invalid key. I know this has been reported in prior betas. Just wanted to be sure someone didn't forget to fix it. - -- Best regards, Bill Kraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPlMAel+k60BsXnM1EQJGNQCfbIQT3jWHhQUSN0Rb96pd2HI6c/MAn31K d99KywmVaYsnETfQr5CQ7ec6 =Dtve -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:35:45 -0500 GMT (18/02/03, 09:35 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Version 1.63 Beta/7 is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb163b07.rar Changes: There have been reports of double folders and missing folders, i.e. a bug introduced with beta/6. This is the reason I didn't use b6. I have now downloaded b7 and would like to know whether this bug has been fixed. While I would like to play with the new features, but I don't want to deal with that particular bug. Kindly clarify. Thanks! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, Bill Kraski wrote... ST Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] All, ST Version 1.63 Beta/7 is now available from ST http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb163b07.rar ST OK, may be not too much, but still something :-) One bug that persists is importing pgp keys. Tried importing a nonexpiring key from a gnugp user, then checked his signature on one of his messages. The Bat! said it was an invalid key. I know this has been reported in prior betas. Just wanted to be sure someone didn't forget to fix it. Did you sign the key, and make it a trusted key? What you are seeing might not be an invalid key, but an untrusted key... PGP's message is a little unclear, gnupg is a little clearer in that area. Sign the key you received (after verifying it), set the key to trusted, and revalidate the email. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPlMNhCuD6BT4/R9zEQI/YQCgx/HxvUxzw6IB+vb3mDuE6hZMcjsAoMHp dpWf8aNzG38zPZine6yOwd2c =pme3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 11:52:16 PM, you wrote: JA Did you sign the key, and make it a trusted key? What you are seeing JA might not be an invalid key, but an untrusted key... PGP's message JA is a little unclear, gnupg is a little clearer in that area. Sign JA the key you received (after verifying it), set the key to trusted, JA and revalidate the email. I did, now. And reverified by checking your signature. Same results prior to signing setting as trusted. - -- Best regards, Bill Kraski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPlMsWV+k60BsXnM1EQI57wCfUE5jJB5v0XKB6N+Zv84fUOiv+bYAoMKV z1rmljfjd7E6tTtqmDs5+Nxj =rCON -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
Hello Jonathan, On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 13:16 GMT -0600, electricians were shocked that Jonathan Angliss [JA] potentially scribbled: JA http://thebat.netdork.net/fmaint.jpg, if you look at the very top, JA there are separated columns, but no headers. It must be XP or your XP skin. On Win98 the headings do exist: http://www.aggarwal.ca/tb/Maintenance%20Center.png -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A There is no such place as the University of Wis-cosine, and if there was, the motto of their mathematics department would not be Secant ye shall find. Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html