Re[2]: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-19 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Jonathan,

JA Sounds about right ;) What sizes did you set for the fonts there?

Maybe it did not sound so, but I could not install it because of that
error, so I don't have XP on any of my machines here :-))  Well, this
is very strange because I used the installation from MSDN...

JA Which font is it? I'll have a play, and see if I can make it reappear
JA somehow.

The font is MS Sans Serif, size 8. Does XP have this font at all? I'm
just wondering why other headers are displayed.

By the way, how does the Beta looks like on XP? :-)



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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-19 Thread Bill Kraski
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Hello Marck,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 5:23:22 AM, you wrote:

MDP Key  validity  has  nothing  to  do  with it. Key validity is about
MDP perception,  not  key  integrity. The import has worked. The key is
MDP good. The signature is good. The key is not correctly signed with a
MDP trusted  certificate.  Until  it  is,  PGP  perceives  that  key as
MDP un-validated (aka invalid).

Ok. Still learning about pgp. Lots. :-)

BK I know this has been reported in prior betas.

MDP I  recommend  that you join PGP-Basics and check out what Invalid
MDP actually means there. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I  already  get  it,  just haven't had much time to read or participate.
Sounds like I need to spend more time there. Maybe even in the archives.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-19 Thread Allie Martin
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Stefan Tanurkov [ST] wrote:'

ST Maybe it did not sound so, but I could not install it because of
ST that error, so I don't have XP on any of my machines here :-))

Hmm. Sorry to hear this. Marck hasn't been able to install XP on his
machine as well. It would seem that the OS is temperamental with
some hardware configurations.

ST The font is MS Sans Serif, size 8. Does XP have this font at all?

Yes, it does.

ST I'm just wondering why other headers are displayed.

One of those mysteries to iron out. The header bars of the folder
maintenance center do have that XP enhanced appearance though.

See captures:
http://www.landscreek.net/pics/xplook.png
http://www.landscreek.net/pics/xplook2.png

I remember that there were problems with making the message list
column headers XP compatible. This is why only the folder pane
column headers are XP compatible. Could this be the problem with the
column headers for the folder maintenance center, i.e., the XP
compatibility being there?

ST By the way, how does the Beta looks like on XP? :-)

As TB! always looked for the last few versions. No change that I've
noted.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-19 Thread Bill Kraski
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Hello Bill,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:52:36 PM, you wrote:

Well,  not quite. But I wanted to keep this in this thread. I'm not sure
if  this  might  be  related to the column header text not showing on XP
(although I run Win98SE).

First  of  all,  I've got an old Packard Bell that started out as a P133
with  16  megs  of  RAMa  1.5 gig HD. It's been beefed up with a an
Evergreen  cpu module with an AMD K6-II 333mhz, RAM to 104 meg, HD to 30
gig  (with  some helper software to recognize the whole thing), a Matrox
Millenium  II 4 meg video card, a Montego II soundcard, a PCI USB 1 card
  an  ISA NIC for my DSL. Along with everything needed to keep all that
humming  on  my  old  clunker,  I have NOD32 AV, BOClean AT, Outpost Pro
firewall,  Proxomitron proxy, Alerts (part of WinPIM), and MaxMem memory
manager  all  running  most of the time. Bus speed, of course, unchanged
from  the original PB implementation. And my system is normally up 24/7.
I mention all this just to indicate the environment in which the problem
occurred.

One of the emails I got tonight included a link to the results of a poll
I  had  participated  in.  Clicking  on  the  link brought up my default
browser  (Crazy Browser) at the appropriate site. I checked out a couple
of  pagesclosed  the  browser. I then started getting error message
boxes  saying  Unable  to  repaint  canvas,  with  THe  Bat!  in the
titlebar.  In order to eliminate the continuing error messages, I had to
use  the  Ctrl-Alt-Del  close  program  box  to  close  The Bat!. When I
reopened it, everything was fine.

I've  never  seen  this  before  with  The Bat! and I'm not sure if it's
internal  or  a  system  resources  thing,  but  since this is a beta, I
figured  it ought to be checked. Sorry if I got too wordy, but I figured
the  more  possibly applicable info I could supply, the more easily this
one might get tracked down.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-19 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote...

JA Sounds about right ;) What sizes did you set for the fonts there?

 Maybe it did not sound so, but I could not install it because of
 that error, so I don't have XP on any of my machines here :-))

I think you're safer that way ;) I've had nothing but hell with XP and
programming stuff. We had to modify nearly 190 applications because of
XP, and it's bubble bar.

 Well, this is very strange because I used the installation from
 MSDN...

It has been noted in many places that some hardware combinations will
just kill XP completely.

JA Which font is it? I'll have a play, and see if I can make it
JA reappear somehow.

 The font is MS Sans Serif, size 8. Does XP have this font at all?
 I'm just wondering why other headers are displayed.

Yes... it does have it... I should hope so at least... that is a
standard font. I wonder if you're being kicked by something we were
when we started looking at XP. Do you define the height of the header
bars? We noticed that because of XP having that bubble bar, the client
height messed up, which (on really close forms) caused a scroll bar to
appear. If the form is non-sizeable, it could be possible that half
the items vanish, or the header bar is resized to such a point where
it is compressed so windows just doesn't display a font. If you can
resize that, you're more than welcome to compile a quick version with
a bigger header bar, and send it over, and I'll take a peek and see if
it helped.

 By the way, how does the Beta looks like on XP? :-)

Looks quite good. There was something I spotted, but I cannot remember
what it was now, and as I'm at home, I'm back into my safe Win98 ;)

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-18 Thread Bill Kraski
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Hello Costas,

Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 3:38:30 PM, you wrote:

 Pressing  back returns you to the original screen (as should do), but
 doesn't refresh the list. So the listed details are incorrect...

CP Confirmed. (Windows 98SE).


Same, here, also Win98SE. Although the no header titles does not seem to
effect Win98.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-18 Thread Bill Kraski
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Hello Stefan,

Monday, February 17, 2003, 9:35:45 PM, you wrote:

ST Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night]  All,

ST   Version 1.63 Beta/7 is now available from
ST   http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb163b07.rar

ST OK, may be not too much, but still something :-)

One  bug  that  persists  is  importing  pgp  keys.  Tried  importing  a
nonexpiring  key from a gnugp user, then checked his signature on one of
his  messages. The Bat! said it was an invalid key. I know this has been
reported in prior betas. Just wanted to be sure someone didn't forget to
fix it.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan,

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:35:45 -0500 GMT (18/02/03, 09:35 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

   Version 1.63 Beta/7 is now available from
   http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb163b07.rar

 Changes:
  
There have been reports of double folders and missing folders, i.e. a
bug introduced with beta/6. This is the reason I didn't use b6. I have
now downloaded b7 and would like to know whether this bug has been
fixed.

While I would like to play with the new features, but I don't want to
deal with that particular bug. Kindly clarify. Thanks! ;-)

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, Bill Kraski wrote...

ST Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night]  All,

ST   Version 1.63 Beta/7 is now available from
ST   http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb163b07.rar

ST OK, may be not too much, but still something :-)

 One bug that persists is importing pgp keys. Tried importing a
 nonexpiring key from a gnugp user, then checked his signature on one
 of his messages. The Bat! said it was an invalid key. I know this
 has been reported in prior betas. Just wanted to be sure someone
 didn't forget to fix it.

Did you sign the key, and make it a trusted key? What you are seeing
might not be an invalid key, but an untrusted key... PGP's message
is a little unclear, gnupg is a little clearer in that area. Sign the
key you received (after verifying it), set the key to trusted, and
revalidate the email.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-18 Thread Bill Kraski
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Hello Jonathan,

Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 11:52:16 PM, you wrote:

JA Did you sign the key, and make it a trusted key? What you are seeing
JA might not be an invalid key, but an untrusted key... PGP's message
JA is  a  little  unclear, gnupg is a little clearer in that area. Sign
JA the  key  you received (after verifying it), set the key to trusted,
JA and revalidate the email.

I  did,  now.  And  reverified  by checking your signature. Same results
prior to signing  setting as trusted.

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Re: 1.63 Beta/7

2003-02-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Jonathan,

On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 13:16 GMT -0600, electricians were
shocked that Jonathan Angliss [JA] potentially scribbled:

JA http://thebat.netdork.net/fmaint.jpg, if you look at the very top,
JA there are separated columns, but no headers.

It must be XP or your XP skin.  On Win98 the headings do exist:
http://www.aggarwal.ca/tb/Maintenance%20Center.png


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