Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Thomas, Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:50:25 PM, you wrote: Hello Marck, On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:35:07 +0100 GMT (09/May/11, 0:35 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: MP ... snip MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the MP re-write. MP ... snip TOG What's your opinion on this? Should TB! continue to decode UUE? I for TOG one think so, for user-friendliness, even though the RFCs don't TOG require it. MP Tough call. It has to be down to priorities. There are flaws and MP omissions relating to non-retro technologies that have to take pride MP of place in the programming queue. I'd put this one on a low MP priority myself. We have both made our points, the decision is now with Ritlabs. And then ultimately, with their paying customers and *their* priorities with reading emails and viewing attachments. Funny how one's priorities change. I am getting a contact form by email from a website coded in India. I have just complained that the form comes across in a UUE block and they say it works fine in Outlook and why do I use an email client that doesn't display correctly? It's a bit embarrassing, really. I now vote for decoding inline UUE. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.22.1 (ALPHA) Current beta is 5.0.22.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hi Tony, We have both made our points, the decision is now with Ritlabs. And then ultimately, with their paying customers and *their* priorities with reading emails and viewing attachments. Funny how one's priorities change. I am getting a contact form by email from a website coded in India. I have just complained that the form comes across in a UUE block and they say it works fine in Outlook and why do I use an email client that doesn't display correctly? It's a bit embarrassing, really. I got that question many times. When I talked with a Chinese about the program (he liked it) and we got to non OS characters filtering problem (not going to tell the guy it's cool and have him call me in a week asking 'How the hell can I filter or search over Chinese?') he decided not even give TB! a try. He was using notebook from US with English OS, so filtering on Chinese language is not working at all (other languages are affected as well). I use TB! and like it but I can't take a risk of recommending it. After a problem with TBK import to v4 (TBK made with v4) I run into I need to dig deeper on that before I recommend v4 as well. Maybe after we get to 5.9 it's gonna be perfect :) Will see :) -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 4.2.44.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) Friday, July 29, 2011 (17:57 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.0.22.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:43:20 -0300, Simon Martin wrote: Could someone who is NOT using Courier please save the mail, zip it and PM it to me please. Just out of curiosity I did a little test of my own. - In Forte Agent I saved the offending message in Unix Mailbox format. The relevant parts of this message are these: Header: |MIME-Version: 1.0 |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Body: |begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif |M1TE.#EAT@'`'``P`T@'`*?Z^OKP[_#K\_-H8V=B7F%Y=7C7U]=` [Snip bulk of UUEncoded part] |+0*2[]E%P;D```#N[ |` |end | | | Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: |http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html This means the .gif file is part of the message BODY and is NOT an attachment. - I started the latest Alfa/Beta/Release/Whatever version of TB! (5.0.12.1) and imported the message (Tools - Import Messages - From Unix-mailboxes.) It displays fine but now the message looks like this: Header: |MIME-Version: 1.0 |Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--E013D5220A8938 Body: |E013D5220A8938 |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | | | | | Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: |http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html | | | | |E013D5220A8938 |Content-Type: application/octet-stream; | name=thebat_error_20110502.gif |Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode | |begin 644 thebat_error_20110502.gif |M1TE.#EAV`',`'``P`V`',`*?Z^OKM\?/ZZF:FIJGIZ?5UM:WMK:@ [Snip bulk of UUEncoded part] |/6S=JJW3.'L`%$![ |` |end |E013D5220A8938-- This means the .gif file now is an attachment. For clarity: this also means TB! is not just simply importing messages but modifies them while importing. I am not quite sure if it should be allowed to do that. Another strange thing happened when I saved the message from TB! in Unix Mailbox format. There are two methods: 1) File - Save as... 2) Tools - Export message to - Unix mailbox Both methods save a file with extension .mbox, even if I try to override it by putting an extension like .txt at the end of the name. What's also weird is that I cannot change the name of the file while TB! is still active. I have to close TB! in order to rename the file. It looks like, one way or another, TB! keeps the saved file in memory instead of releasing it, like it should do (imho, of course...) Arjan -- I am here to lose control Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Dear Arjan, @08-May-2011, 14:31 +0200 (08-May 13:31 here) Arjan de Groot [ADG] in mid:881ds6d2263do6jvu2vs4nd4p2q6soc...@4ax.com said: ADG For clarity: this also means TB! is not just simply importing messages ADG but modifies them while importing. I am not quite sure if it should be ADG allowed to do that. When importing messages from a non-email compliant (news) format, of course TB has to reformat the messages to be fully MIME compliant and should certainly be allowed to do so. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpqwKPy4kPaz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Marck, On Sun, 8 May 2011 13:47:02 +0100 GMT (08/May/11, 19:47 PM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: ADG For clarity: this also means TB! is not just simply importing messages ADG but modifies them while importing. I am not quite sure if it should be ADG allowed to do that. MP When importing messages from a non-email compliant (news) format, of MP course TB has to reformat the messages to be fully MIME compliant MP and should certainly be allowed to do so. I think I agree, but this might be out of my league: If TB! is supposed to change from UUencode to MIME, why does it work reliably with v4 and only for some people (and not for all) with v5? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Dear Thomas, @8-May-2011, 23:52 +0700 (08-May 17:52 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG] in mid:24048256.20110508235...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Marck: ... snip MP When importing messages from a non-email compliant (news) MP format, of course TB has to reformat the messages to be fully MP MIME compliant and should certainly be allowed to do so. TOG I think I agree, but this might be out of my league: If TB! is TOG supposed to change from UUencode to MIME, why does it work TOG reliably with v4 and only for some people (and not for all) TOG with v5? I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the re-write. It clearly still has a UUE decoder for use in the importer. As for why some can and some can't see the attachment correctly in V5, I'd say the lucky few who can are downwind of an MTA (mail server) that does the conversion en-route. In other words, news style UUE message body encoding is not acceptable in the RFC for email in transit, so these servers take it upon themselves to be helpful. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpK2adA1ZMAm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Marck, On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:08:59 +0100 GMT (09/May/11, 0:08 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the MP re-write. It clearly still has a UUE decoder for use in the MP importer. As for why some can and some can't see the attachment MP correctly in V5, I'd say the lucky few who can are downwind of an MP MTA (mail server) that does the conversion en-route. In other MP words, news style UUE message body encoding is not acceptable in the MP RFC for email in transit, so these servers take it upon themselves MP to be helpful. What's your opinion on this? Should TB! continue to decode UUE? I for one think so, for user-friendliness, even though the RFCs don't require it. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Dear Thomas, @9-May-2011, 00:28 +0700 (08-May 18:28 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG] in mid:6410625341.20110509002...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Marck: ... snip MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the MP re-write. ... snip TOG What's your opinion on this? Should TB! continue to decode UUE? I for TOG one think so, for user-friendliness, even though the RFCs don't TOG require it. Tough call. It has to be down to priorities. There are flaws and omissions relating to non-retro technologies that have to take pride of place in the programming queue. I'd put this one on a low priority myself. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpvF0DFUcdne.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Marck, On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:35:07 +0100 GMT (09/May/11, 0:35 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: MP ... snip MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the MP re-write. MP ... snip TOG What's your opinion on this? Should TB! continue to decode UUE? I for TOG one think so, for user-friendliness, even though the RFCs don't TOG require it. MP Tough call. It has to be down to priorities. There are flaws and MP omissions relating to non-retro technologies that have to take pride MP of place in the programming queue. I'd put this one on a low MP priority myself. We have both made our points, the decision is now with Ritlabs. And then ultimately, with their paying customers and *their* priorities with reading emails and viewing attachments. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
On Sunday, May 8, 2011, 19:08:59, Marck Pearlstone wrote: I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the re-write. It hasn't - I sent myself several messages with UUEncoded attachments, and they all arrived intact. I tried receiving them both through POP3 connection and through IMAP, with Dovecot and Exchange being the IMAP servers; Exchange did something funny with the message though - the entire message arrived base64-encoded, and inside this base64 block was inline UUencoded attachment - but TB had no problems decoding it. Here's the top few lines from Dovecot: 8--- From: Jernej =?utf-8?Q?Simon=C4=8Di=C4=8D?= jernej|s...@eternallybored.org Subject: TestUU - tbthemes1.png (1/1) uuEncoded 3031 bytes To: hidden User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.84 (e7884815.430.402) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Organization: e-mailaholics international Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:56:12 +0200 Message-ID: 1h1zkv7wg2wa2$.d...@deepthought.ena.si X-Face: *BXrgB!?f3cBwmeN:Q~Z[5F-qZK~t;k]KluGog=8Wl6qa@Rhn=(OL//@Zo*+3C1opTjt 7l,QM=h6[k:#^'6]0MuPu-@By.:}Io=wJ\]V4L,C`FM}a7R2oNq@Q8jY8`s)2^~@4o:FM}W1N n:~ixb-b:#nOD2|Eut% X-Ultimate-Answer: 42 Test -- Jernej Simon=C4=8Di=C4=8D http://eternallybored.org/ begin 644 tbthemes1.png MB5!.1PT*@H-24A$4@```R`J`,```!\W^AGU!,5$4@(`* M(!K___\*(AL,,B@*(QP'(1H%)1P*)1T*)AX*+R0*(1H*-2@*-B@*-RD).H* M(1L**R$**!\*-*,R*,R8*)!P*)!T*,4*+(**2`*,24*+B,*,B8*)QX* 8--- ...and from Exchange: 8--- Subject: Test 2 - test.gif (1/1) uuEncoded 9237 bytes Thread-Topic: Test 2 - test.gif (1/1) uuEncoded 9237 bytes Thread-Index: AcwMBYZR1rbCrnFyR6OatOlJFuoQ7g== Message-ID: 1aeujlwrwfpwy@deepthought.ena.si Accept-Language: sl-SI Content-Language: sl-SI X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: hidden X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: None X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: eternallybored.org X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-virus-scanned: amavisd-new at konto.si x-face: *BXrgB!?f3cBwmeN:Q~Z[5F-qZK~t;k]KluGog=8Wl6qa@Rhn=(OL//@Zo*+3C1opTjt 7l,QM=h6[k:#^'6]0MuPu-@By.:}Io=wJ\]V4L,C`FM}a7R2oNq@Q8jY8`s)2^~@4o:FM}W1N n:~ixb-b:#nOD2|Eut% Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 VGVzdCAyDQoNCi0tDQo8IEplcm5laiBTaW1vbsSNacSNID48Pjw+PD48PjwgaHR0cDovL2V0ZXJu YWxseWJvcmVkLm9yZy8gPg0KYmVnaW4gNjQ0IHRlc3QuZ2lmDQpNMVRFJi4jRUFGMCkrYD4/R2Bg YGBgYGBgP0BgYD9QYGBAYGAhQGBgIkBgYCNAYCQjQGBgJEBgYGBFUCQmDQpNPUAkJEAwYCVAYGAm QGBgJ0BgKCo7QGAoQGBgYEtQYClAYGAlRVBgKkBgKC07UGArQGBgMjdQYCxAYGAtDQpNQGBgLkBg YC9AYGArRVA4MjlgYDBAYDgyOmBgKEtQYDFAYDgzOVBgMkBgYDNAYDA4N0BgNEBgYDVAYDg5DQpN N0BgNkBgYDdAYGA4QGBgOUBgQDs4UGA6QGBAPDhAQDw4UGA7QGBgPEBgYD1AYGA+QGBgP0BgYEBA YGBBDQpNQGBgQkBgYENAYGBEQGBgRUBgYEZAYGBHQGBgSEAhLEg0MGBJQCRAJUBgYEpAITBJNDBg 8--- The Bat displays the attachment in both messages. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] The most difficult light bulb to replace burns out first and most frequently. -- Occam's Electric Razor Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[3]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Hi All Courier users, Thursday, May 5, 2011, 8:44:05 AM, Tbbeta wrote: Hi Raymund, Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:20:23 AM, Raymund wrote: Hi Simon, That brings us back to the original question: which server is that? My server is Courier. Okay, every time someone saw that problem there was a Courier server involved if I recall correctly. I guess someone should raise a bug report with them. I agree. Could someone who is NOT using Courier please save the mail, zip it and PM it to me please. I'll then do some tests here and then log the bug with the courier developers. Raymund resent me the original post by Gene. I forwarded it to myself and received it correctly. To do this I modified my courier configuration. If you are are using Debian or one of it's derivatives (Ubuntu for example) then edit /etc/courier/esmtpd and edit /etc/courier/esmtpd-ssl, add the following lines, other distributions will have to read the documentation: BOFHBADMIME=accept MIME=none MIME=none is actually implicit in the BOFHBADMIME=accept, but just to make it complete... Can others confirm that this works? Regards. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
On Fri, 6 May 2011 05:30:25 +0700, Thomas wrote: begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif ... snip I wonder where this begin 644 comes from. It means literally: now follows an Uuencoded block. I've forgotten most about the backgrounds but I still remember Uuencoding is one of the first (perhaps even the first) methods to convert binary data into text (and back). If you want to know more about it see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuencode In any case Uuencode and MIME are completely different things. I don't know the the exact cause of this specific Beta! problem, but I suspect it's The Beta!'s inability to recognize _inline_ Uuencoded text. I use Forte Agent. In Agent one has the choice how to handle binary text. MIME or Uuencoded. Inside the message text body or as an attachment. Which means Agent has no trouble whatsover recognizing Uuncoding in Usenet AND email messages. Arjan -- I am here to lose control Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Marck, On Thu, 5 May 2011 23:50:13 +0100 GMT (06/May/11, 5:50 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: TOG Same problem as with Tony, who I just replied to by seperate mail. TOG What is your mail server? MP MDaemon 8.0.3 You just blew the theory out through the chimney. Or MDaemon has the same bug as Courier IMAP. MP begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif MP ... snip TOG I wonder where this begin 644 comes from. MP I think it's the way attachments are indicated in news. OK. MP Certainly an incorrect format for email MIME encapsulation. It may MP be that some IMAP servers are cross-formatting news messages to MP comply with MIME email format in transit. Some people received the attachement correctly MIME encoded, others didn't. Those who didn't cannot read the message. I find no way to see this as a bug in TB!, so I'm crawling back under my stone. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Arjan, On Fri, 06 May 2011 10:46:02 +0200 GMT (06/May/11, 15:46 PM +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: I wonder where this begin 644 comes from. AdG It means literally: now follows an Uuencoded block. AdG I've forgotten most about the backgrounds but I still remember AdG Uuencoding is one of the first (perhaps even the first) methods to AdG convert binary data into text (and back). If you want to know more AdG about it see: AdG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuencode Thanks, I just took a look. Interesting! I never liked history at school, but little did they teach history of really interesting stuff, like computing. (The reason was, of course, that computing was still future and mostly science fiction at the time.) AdG In any case Uuencode and MIME are completely different things. I don't AdG know the the exact cause of this specific Beta! problem, but I suspect AdG it's The Beta!'s inability to recognize _inline_ Uuencoded text. Thanks. Since I received the attachment MIME encoded, I don't know whether v4 would have shown the same as the beta, therefore it might not even a beta issue. Anyway, I think we can close this thread now. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
On Friday, May 6, 2011, 17:03:24, Thomas Fernandez wrote: You just blew the theory out through the chimney. Or MDaemon has the same bug as Courier IMAP. How do you get TB to send with UUEncoding at all? I wanted to do some tests, but despite setting By default, encode attachments using [UU Encoding], TB still sends them as MIME Base64. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried. -- Panic Instruction Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Jernej, On Fri, 6 May 2011 18:05:47 +0200 GMT (06/May/11, 23:05 PM +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: You just blew the theory out through the chimney. Or MDaemon has the same bug as Courier IMAP. JS How do you get TB to send with UUEncoding at all? I wanted to do some JS tests, but despite setting By default, encode attachments using [UU JS Encoding], TB still sends them as MIME Base64. That message wasn't sent with TB!, but with: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
On Thursday, May 5, 2011, 7:15:37, Thomas Fernandez wrote: The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets correctly. So does v5 here. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] That which we call sin in others is experiment for us. -- Emerson's Insight Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Hi Raymund, Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:20:23 AM, Raymund wrote: Hi Simon, That brings us back to the original question: which server is that? My server is Courier. Okay, every time someone saw that problem there was a Courier server involved if I recall correctly. I guess someone should raise a bug report with them. I agree. Could someone who is NOT using Courier please save the mail, zip it and PM it to me please. I'll then do some tests here and then log the bug with the courier developers. TIA. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets correctly. So does v5 here. So, is it a bug or not? The devs are chasing shadows if it also works on their machines. I'd rather not distract them. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.12 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Jernej, On Thu, 5 May 2011 09:12:43 +0200 GMT (05/May/11, 14:12 PM +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets correctly. JS So does v5 here. Interesting, others reported otherwise. But then, it has been hinted that it depends on the receiving IMAP server. If confirmed, no fault on TB!'s side. Could those who cannot see the attachment post the relevant headers, please? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Could those who cannot see the attachment post the relevant headers,
please?
Here are the headers, UMAP protocol snippet and IMAP server's message
in Maildir. I'd like to see what was sent, please.
Return-Path: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com
X-Original-To: t...@parkinch.co.uk
Delivered-To: t...@parkinch.co.uk
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by junkbox.parkinch.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9373D2654A5
for t...@parkinch.co.uk; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:00:49 +0100 (BST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at parkinch.co.uk
.SNIP received headers.
X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
From: Gene Kearns gene.thebat.b...@tranquilrefuge.net
Subject: Re: 5.0.12 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110502.gif (1/1)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:55:11 -0400
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And here is the TB's view of the IMAP conversation
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03/05/2011 00:00:38 S: From: Gene Kearns gene.thebat.b...@tranquilrefuge.net
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Here is the message on the server
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Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Dear Thomas, @5-May-2011, 22:07 +0700 (05-May 16:07 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG] in mid:1369183604.20110505220...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Jernej: ... snip TOG Could those who cannot see the attachment post the relevant headers, TOG please? Received: from gene.thebat.beta by cpe-075-177-121-194.triad.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com; Mon, 02 May 2011 22:25:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com From: Gene Kearns gene.thebat.b...@tranquilrefuge.net Subject: Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 16:24:41 -0400 Lines: 376 Message-ID: 9o4ur6l3pente4hgja0he2fara147jh...@4ax.com References: 198979698.20110430224...@ritlabs.com ... snip X-Complaints-To: use...@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-075-177-121-194.triad.res.rr.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: yes Originating-Agent: S1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110502-0, 05/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com List-Id: tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com List-Unsubscribe: https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/options/tbbeta, mailto:tbbeta-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Post: mailto:tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com List-Help: mailto:tbbeta-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta, mailto:tbbeta-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com?subject=subscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com Errors-To: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com X-MDRcpt-To: ma...@silverstones.com X-Rcpt-To: ma...@silverstones.com ... snip X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Processed: silverserver.silverstones.com, Mon, 02 May 2011 21:25:27 +0100 begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif ... snip -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpPbttHyH8gU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Marck, On Thu, 5 May 2011 22:31:57 +0100 GMT (06/May/11, 4:31 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: TOG Could those who cannot see the attachment post the relevant headers, TOG please? MP MIME-Version: 1.0 MP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Same problem as with Tony, who I just replied to by seperate mail. What is your mail server? MP begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif MP ... snip I wonder where this begin 644 comes from. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Tony, On Thu, 5 May 2011 22:26:32 +0100 GMT (06/May/11, 4:26 AM +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: TH MIME-Version: 1.0 TH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii TH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Over here it says in the main headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--1016115C1189A014 And then after a blank line, which indicates the end of the main headers: 1016115C1189A014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are missing the multipart/mixed instruction and the boundary information. Certainly something to do with how the message arred on your computer, not with how v5 interpreted it. But also not with how it was sent, as I (and others) received it correctly. Are you using IMAP with a Courier server? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello Thomas, Are you using IMAP with a Courier server? Yes, Courier IMAP (plus amavisd spam filer) It's possibly not the IMAP server but upstream mail handling. I use Postfix+amavisd+SpamAssassin+loads more -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.12.1 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif
Dear Thomas, @6-May-2011, 05:30 +0700 (05-May 23:30 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG] in mid:864192035.20110506053...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Marck: ... snip MP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TOG Same problem as with Tony, who I just replied to by seperate mail. TOG What is your mail server? MDaemon 8.0.3 MP begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif MP ... snip TOG I wonder where this begin 644 comes from. I think it's the way attachments are indicated in news. Certainly an incorrect format for email MIME encapsulation. It may be that some IMAP servers are cross-formatting news messages to comply with MIME email format in transit. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpEJFEW9SjIA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Tony, On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:00:58 +0100 GMT (04/May/11, 0:00 AM +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x is more forgiving as well. Is this a bug or a feature though? TH I wouldn't want to distract the devs from the more pressing issues: TH Filters and virtual folders - for me at least. Sure. But if image attachments are not shown any more, I would qualify this as another show-stopper. TH The Sizes Differ!! exception is most annoying and I'm sure is TH contributing to the above two. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Hi Thomas Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 3:00:15 PM, Thomas wrote: Hello Tony, On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:00:58 +0100 GMT (04/May/11, 0:00 AM +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x is more forgiving as well. Is this a bug or a feature though? TH I wouldn't want to distract the devs from the more pressing issues: TH Filters and virtual folders - for me at least. Sure. But if image attachments are not shown any more, I would qualify this as another show-stopper. This is a gray area. This is a badly formed mail. There are no MIME headers. We can't blame TB! for that. Behaviour depends on the MUA of choice. These are the tests I did. Platform Program Result Windows emClient Shows uuencode data Windows TB! 5.x Shows uuencode data Windows Windows Live Mail Shows image correctly Linux Evolution Shows image badly Webmail sqwebmail Shows uuencode data Definitely not a show stopper. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hi Simon, as mentioned earlier, the message has all the MIME delimiters over here. Can you check the source in the MUAs in your list? -- regards Raymund -- Grüße, Raymund Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[4]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Hi Raymond, Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 4:19:13 PM, Tbbeta wrote: Hi Simon, as mentioned earlier, the message has all the MIME delimiters over here. Can you check the source in the MUAs in your list? I went one better than that and I checked the mail in the IMAP directory on the server. There are no MIME headers. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Dear Tony, @3-May-2011, 09:36 Tony Hoare [TH] in mid:1711480403.20110503093...@parkinch.co.uk said to Simon: ... snip TH I do see this a lot from various senders so it would be great if TB TH could handle this ONE DAY. I understand there are a lot more important TH issues for now. TH Gene, was this actually produced buy TB? Aye - there's the rub! This message came in using Forte agent via the GMane feed for this list. A double whammy by any definition. And there is nothing in the header to indicate that any data here should be interpreted as a graphic image type. I think it's about the attachment being in News format instead of MIME email encapsulation. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.1 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpT3f2lKX2zS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Hi Raymond, Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 5:32:32 PM, Raymund wrote: Hi Simon, I went one better than that and I checked the mail in the IMAP directory on the server. There are no MIME headers. That brings us back to the original question: which server is that? My server is Courier. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Simon, Sorry for top-posting, but my email client is not very good at HTML... ;-) These are a few of the headers I found in the source of the incoming message: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--1016115C1189A014 1016115C1189A014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [follow by the plain text part of the message, i.e. only the offter] 1016115C1189A014 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=thebat_error_20110430.gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode [followed by gibberish, which my email client interpreted as an attached gif file] Not really a reason to upgrade from v4 to v5 methinks, and not an improvement for the user. Thursday, May 5, 2011, 2:13:39 AM, you wrote: Hi Thomas Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 3:00:15 PM, Thomas wrote: Hello Tony, On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:00:58 +0100 GMT (04/May/11, 0:00 AM +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x is more forgiving as well. Is this a bug or a feature though? TH I wouldn't want to distract the devs from the more pressing issues: TH Filters and virtual folders - for me at least. Sure. But if image attachments are not shown any more, I would qualify this as another show-stopper. This is a gray area. This is a badly formed mail. There are no MIME headers. We can't blame TB! for that. Behaviour depends on the MUA of choice. These are the tests I did. Platform Program Result Windows emClient Shows uuencode data Windows TB! 5.x Shows uuencode data Windows Windows Live Mail Shows image correctly Linux Evolution Shows image badly Webmail sqwebmail Shows uuencode data Definitely not a show stopper. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto: smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Marck, On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:38:49 +0100 GMT (05/May/11, 3:38 AM +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: TH Gene, was this actually produced buy TB? MP Aye - there's the rub! MP This message came in using Forte agent via the GMane feed for this MP list. A double whammy by any definition. And there is nothing in the MP header to indicate that any data here should be interpreted as a MP graphic image type. MP I think it's about the attachment being in News format instead of MP MIME email encapsulation. The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets correctly. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello NetVicious! On Monday, May 2, 2011 at 11:52:37 PM you wrote: Not confirmed here try it with a collapsed thread. In the past you could navigate from oldest to newest even in collapsed state by simply deleting the message you just read from the top down. Since 2 or 3 builds back deleting the first message in a thread deletes the whole thread [formerly you needed a modifier key to do that]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.10.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Kein Mensch ist so beschäftigt, dass er nicht die Zeit hat, überall zu erzählen, wie beschäftigt er ist. [Robert Lembke] Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Simon, Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 1:09:21 AM, you wrote: begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif snip end I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3 different MUA to confirm. Me too. Thanks for the confirmation Simon. I guess this is another example of Outlook taking a tolerant view of the structure of the messages. I believe in the old days that the inline uuencoded block was an acceptable attachment. Certainly before MIME. I do see this a lot from various senders so it would be great if TB could handle this ONE DAY. I understand there are a lot more important issues for now. Gene, was this actually produced buy TB? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
Hello Dwight, Did you see an image attachment on this message? yes while fiddling with common folder for Raymond, I switched machines, to one still running 5.0.8. Here, the answer to your question would be no. But fixed in 5.0.10.1? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 1:01:19 AM, Raymund Tump wrote: Something weird is going on there. his more recent posts didn't thread here either, although everyone else's are. Can't see any thing different about the reference headers, but he is changing the subject subject, on at least some. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 3:43:34 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: Did you see an image attachment on this message? yes while fiddling with common folder for Raymond, I switched machines, to one still running 5.0.8. Here, the answer to your question would be no. But fixed in 5.0.10.1? seems fine now. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
Hello Raymund, On Mon, 2 May 2011 20:21:56 +0200 GMT (03/May/11, 1:21 AM +0700 GMT), Raymund Tump wrote: I would judge that the thread itself starts here with a message not from Kearns. mid:198979698.20110430224...@ritlabs.com RT If you add '' and '' around the mid it is actually clickable and RT not only highlighted as such... It's clickable here, using v4.x. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Simon, On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:09:21 -0300 GMT (03/May/11, 7:09 AM +0700 GMT), Simon Martin wrote: SM I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I SM would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA SM should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3 different MUA to confirm. You should try TB!v4.x. I see his message and an attachment called thebat_error_20110430.gif. That attachment also creates a tab, which I can click on and see the gif. Two images attached, I hope they come through. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3attachment: GIF attchmt.jpgattachment: GIF attchmt1.jpg Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Thanks Thomas, Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 12:07:27 PM, Thomas wrote: Hello Simon, On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:09:21 -0300 GMT (03/May/11, 7:09 AM +0700 GMT), Simon Martin wrote: SM I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I SM would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA SM should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3 different MUA to confirm. You should try TB!v4.x. I see his message and an attachment called thebat_error_20110430.gif. That attachment also creates a tab, which I can click on and see the gif. Two images attached, I hope they come through. The images came through. I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x is more forgiving as well. Is this a bug or a feature though? -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Simon, I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x is more forgiving as well. Is this a bug or a feature though? I wouldn't want to distract the devs from the more pressing issues: Filters and virtual folders - for me at least. The Sizes Differ!! exception is most annoying and I'm sure is contributing to the above two. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.12 Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Simon, On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:09:21 -0300 GMT (03/May/11, 7:09 AM +0700 GMT), Simon Martin wrote: SM I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I SM would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA SM should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3 different MUA to confirm. You should try TB!v4.x. I see his message and an attachment called thebat_error_20110430.gif. That attachment also creates a tab, which I can click on and see the gif. Two images attached, I hope they come through. I can see the images -- Rick Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something v5.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
lunes, 2 may 2011 at 23:52, it seems you wrote: A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if Control-Shift-Delete is pressed. Not confirmed here I regret my no confirmation. If the thread it's collapsed the entire thread it's deleted. If the thread it's expanded only the first (the selected one) it's deleted. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
NetVicious: lunes, 2 may 2011 at 23:52, it seems you wrote: A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if Control-Shift-Delete is pressed. Not confirmed here I regret my no confirmation. If the thread it's collapsed the entire thread it's deleted. If the thread it's expanded only the first (the selected one) it's deleted. It's not that bad, IMO, other programs behave just like that. I tried once to have TB do that before, but I couldn't find a way. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI
Hi Tony, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 7:26:50 PM, Tony wrote: snip FWIW, I'm using Courier IMAP. I recently turned off IMAP logging so have missed the server's version of the email so I've emptied the cache to force TB to download it again and I have captured the conversation and it still looks different - and slightly wrong. I'm no expert but Perhaps it's my Courier IMAP server but I have just retrieved the message from the server using Outlook and it comes without a problem. I am using Courier IMAP and have had no problems with images so far. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto: smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
Hello Simon, I am using Courier IMAP and have had no problems with images so far. Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI Hi Tony, Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:47:24 AM, Tony wrote: Hello Simon, I am using Courier IMAP and have had no problems with images so far. Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text? Not really sure. I don't actually keep the beta list mails so I can't check. Want to resend it. I'll check and let you know. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
Hello Simon, Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text? Not really sure. I don't actually keep the beta list mails so I can't check. Want to resend it. I'll check and let you know. I only have the broken version. Perhaps Gene Kearns would be kind enough to recreate and send the original message. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:47:24 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: I am using Courier IMAP and have had no problems with images so far. Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text? this is all fairly confusing, perhaps because Gene Kearns e-mails each break the thread. Correction, I see two messages from him or her which each break the thread. There may be other messages I don't see because they don't. It would help if the message you are asking about was identified. I seeamessagefromKearns which starts a sub thread, mid:ptgpr69i3r830mggor6c35c1p3pn5d9...@4ax.com which contains a block of text.another mid:f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com contains an attachment and nothing else except the list footer. I would judge that the thread itself starts here with a message not from Kearns. mid:198979698.20110430224...@ritlabs.com -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
Hello Dwight, Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text? this is all fairly confusing, perhaps because Gene Kearns e-mails each break the thread. Correction, I see two messages from him or her snip Yes it is confusing. I didn't realise that the thread was broken as I was so focused on the image that came through as a block of uuencoded text. The message in question is mid:f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com Did you see an image attachment on this message? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:14:20 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: The message in question is mid:f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com Did you see an image attachment on this message? yes -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 2:40:33 PM, Raymund Tump wrote: So do they thread in a coomon folder for you or not? Which threading type do you use? copied the messages to a common folder and still threaded the same there, as in the illustration. Threading by references. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:38:15 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: The message in question is mid:f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com Did you see an image attachment on this message? yes while fiddling with common folder for Raymond, I switched machines, to one still running 5.0.8. Here, the answer to your question would be no. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
sábado, 30 abr 2011 at 23:28, it seems you wrote: A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if Control-Shift-Delete is pressed. Not confirmed here -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.10.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) Thanks Gene, Monday, May 2, 2011, 5:24:41 PM, Tbbeta wrote: begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif snip end I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3 different MUA to confirm. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 9:40:22 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi MM What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? No problem here with installation but I still have the following bugs here: 1. Read filters do not work. Worked in 5.0.0.138, but not in any version since since. [https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5253, 29-10-2005 and signed off by me as fixed in version 5.0.0.138, 15-2-2011] I have reported this new failure by direct mail to Stefan Tanurkov but had no response. 2. Flters for virtual folders do not work properly if a 'Text' search is included. [https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8556, 18-3-2011] 3. Refiltering does not work if there are a large number of messages. In version 4 the refilter function pauses every so often but always resumes until all the messages have been looked at. I presume the programme pauses because of limited memory or limited temporary file size. In version 5 at the first pause position, after a while, instead of resuming filtering it says filtering is complete. 4. Still in version 5, in the customise program, the items displayed there are not always the same as the items actually displayed in the toolbar and therefore it is not possiblre to edit the toolbar properly. This was reported in version 4, [https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7740, 15-4-2009] -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.0.10 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Roger, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:19:08 AM, you wrote: MM What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? No problem here with installation but I still have the following bugs here: Are these bugs new since 5.0.8? The main reason why we plan to release 5.0.10 is to fix some bugs of 5.0.8, and then fix other bugs in subsequent releases. If we didn't announce that we have fixed a particular bug, there is no reason to report that it is not fixes since it's obvious and provides no clear inidcation whether it's an old or a new bug. Please test that 5.0.10 has no new bugs since 5.0.8, then we will release 5.0.10 and then fix the bugs that you have mentioned. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Marek, We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: at least this one is new since 5.0.8: - reply/Forward icons are not added to original messages, when are replies/forwards created https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8652 Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.9.7 (BETA) with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Maxim, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:44:04 AM, among other things, you wrote: MM Hello Roger, MM Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:19:08 AM, you wrote: No problem here with installation but I still have the following bugs here: MM Are these bugs new since 5.0.8? None that I have found. MM Please test that 5.0.10 has no new bugs since 5.0.8, then we will MM release 5.0.10 and then fix the bugs that you have mentioned. I'm very glad to hear it. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.0.10 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Gene, On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:26:23 -0400 GMT (01/May/11, 9:26 AM +0700 GMT), Gene Kearns wrote: If this is confirmed by others, it's a show-stopper. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Costas, On Sun, 1 May 2011 00:28:34 +0300 GMT (01/May/11, 4:28 AM +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping CP A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and CP the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if CP Control-Shift-Delete is pressed. If confirmed, this is a show-stopper. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 1 May 2011 00:29:48 +0300 GMT (01/May/11, 4:29 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Could you please test wether 5.0.10 have new bugs comparing to MM 5.0.8? If no, we will release it and will be working on the bugs MM that you have mentioned. Please compare it to v4 and the list of show-stoppers that have been reported for v5. I will not even test a version that has known bugs in the filtering system or the virtual folders. Or reported regular AVs. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
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Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - Exceptions
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi The old filter killers are still there. TB disconnects after this. Gloom. Date: 01 May 2011 14:21:47 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 683/2047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1629/2047 MB Address: 00A324E5 ClassName: Exception Message: Sizes differ!! IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20110430191926 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00A324E5 [0040] 00A324E0 [0040] 00A230E2 [0040] 00A26CD7 [0040] 004738FA [0040] 00473960 [0040] 00405ADC [0040] Date: 01 May 2011 14:21:52 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 685/2047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1633/2047 MB Address: 00AB0DBC ClassName: EUnicodeException Message: A filter fails to copy a message from folder Inbox to Meetings and networking. The destination BaseUID=0 IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20110430191926 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00AB0DBC [0040] 00AB0DB7 [0040] 00AAFE41 [0040] 00AB0C57 [0040] 00AB071D [0040] 00BB763E [0040] 00AB133B [0040] 00AB1440 [0040] 00AAC167 [0040] 00ACBEBD [0040] 00A16D36 [0040] 00A16E3A [0040] 00A16E56 [0040] 004738FA [0040] 00473960 [0040] 00405ADC [0040] -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
On Sunday, May 1, 2011, 15:25:50, Tony Hoare wrote: Can anyone read this? Surely TB should be able to handle base64 encoding. I get quite a few emails from others like this. You didn't have to quote the entire message. Anyway, the original message displayed fine here, so some server is probably mangling the message for you. Check the source - the message headers should look similar to this: ,- |snip | To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com | From: Gene Kearns gene.thebat.b...@tranquilrefuge.net | Subject: Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1) | Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:26:23 -0400 | Lines: 376 | Message-ID: f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com | References: 198979698.20110430224...@ritlabs.com | X-Complaints-To: use...@dough.gmane.org | X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-075-177-121-194.triad.res.rr.com | X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 | X-No-Archive: yes | Originating-Agent: S1 | X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110430-1, 04/30/2011), Outbound message | X-Antivirus-Status: Clean | X-BeenThere: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com | X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 | Precedence: list | Reply-To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com | List-Id: tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com | List-Unsubscribe: https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/options/tbbeta, | mailto:tbbeta-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com?subject=unsubscribe | List-Post: mailto:tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com | List-Help: mailto:tbbeta-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com?subject=help | List-Subscribe: https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/listinfo/tbbeta, | mailto:tbbeta-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com?subject=subscribe | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--6E7B1F328D5BDA4 | Sender: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com | Errors-To: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com | X-Text-Classification: en | X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=45901 | | 6E7B1F328D5BDA4 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | | | | | Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: | http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html | | | 6E7B1F328D5BDA4 | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; | name=thebat_error_20110430.gif | Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode | | begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif |snip `- -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] A man should be greater than some of his parts. -- Mother Sigafoos's Observation Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Tony, On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:25:50 +0100 GMT (01/May/11, 20:25 PM +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: TH Hello Gene, TH Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:26:23 AM, you wrote: begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif M1TE.#EAT@'`'``P`T@'`*?Z^OKP[_#K\_-H8V=B7F%Y=7C7U]=` [...] TH Can anyone read this? Surely TB should be able to handle base64 TH encoding. I get quite a few emails from others like this. No problem reading his mail over here (using v4). Point in case. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) Hi Roger et al, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 4:19:08 AM, you wrote: Hello Maxim, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 9:40:22 PM, among other things, you wrote: 3. Refiltering does not work if there are a large number of messages. In version 4 the refilter function pauses every so often but always resumes until all the messages have been looked at. I presume the programme pauses because of limited memory or limited temporary file size. In version 5 at the first pause position, after a while, instead of resuming filtering it says filtering is complete. Confirmed. I have the same problem here. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (0/1)
Title: Re[2]: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (0/1) Hi List, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:26:22 PM, Gene wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:40:22 +0300, Maxim Masiutin m...@ritlabs.com wrote: Again, since the V5 release... I have no email. The Bat! has trashed my computer such that NO version of The Bat! will run. The latest POS, V5.0.10, yields the following warning (not unlike the others): I assume that there is some file/registry entry that has been trashed. Amongst other things I am a Windows application developer. If someone can give me a list of files and registry entries that The Bat! creates then I can put together a complete removal application. I seem to remember that someone sent a list of "things to do", but I have since erased the message. TIA. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto:smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI
Hello Jernej, | Sender: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com | Errors-To: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com | X-Text-Classification: en | X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=45901 | | 6E7B1F328D5BDA4 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | | | | | Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: | http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html | | | 6E7B1F328D5BDA4 | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; | name=thebat_error_20110430.gif | Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode | | begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif |snip `- Apologies for the massive quote. The source of the message looks quite different on my system. The Mime header has been split by the Sender and Error-To header and there's no boundary marker. | snip | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Sender: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com | Errors-To: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com | | | begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif | snip `- FWIW, I'm using Courier IMAP. I recently turned off IMAP logging so have missed the server's version of the email so I've emptied the cache to force TB to download it again and I have captured the conversation and it still looks different - and slightly wrong. I'm no expert but Perhaps it's my Courier IMAP server but I have just retrieved the message from the server using Outlook and it comes without a problem. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
Hello Thomas, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 2:37:06 PM, you wrote: Hello Tony, On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:25:50 +0100 GMT (01/May/11, 20:25 PM +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: TH Hello Gene, TH Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:26:23 AM, you wrote: begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif M1TE.#EAT@'`'``P`T@'`*?Z^OKP[_#K\_-H8V=B7F%Y=7C7U]=` [...] TH Can anyone read this? Surely TB should be able to handle base64 TH encoding. I get quite a few emails from others like this. No problem reading his mail over here (using v4). Point in case. Can anyone on v5 IMAP NOT see the attachment but just a jumble of characters? I'm starting to suspect my server rather than TB. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.10 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.10 MSI (release?)
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-0-10.msi What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? [-] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text and Except messages smaller than options must be enabled by default [-] (#0008470) Deleting IMAP folder cache causes wrong Total messages account counter [-] Incorrect port was displayed for IMAP accounts on Account Info panel [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not functional [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched off, messages still were marked as read [-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions [-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't working properly [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically [-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view [-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the Finder's message list [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed [-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by default in all folders [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in non-MIME format [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping [-] (#0008621) Empty folders function was broken in v5 [-] (#0008602) IMAP : Option When inactive, disconnect after does not work [-] Rethreading function was working wrong when the dragged message was droppend onto itself causing hiding of the message from the list [-] (#0008614) Delete button was working as delete and follow next when message list was switched off in the separate message list viewer [-] (#0008628) message export/save as function was using non-modal file save dialogue causing problems on some systems [-] (#0008583) Option Play sound when new mail arrives doesn't work [+] (#0007284) Print function is now functional in the image viewer [-] The last used Address Book was not recalled after restart [-] (#0008550) Connection Centre : Log window is empty for POP and SMTP tasks [*] When encrypting a message, The Bat! will no loger use SubjectKeyIdentifier for compatibility with other programs which do not support this structure. [*] In S/MIME signatures, the attribute ESSCertIDv2 is now added. [-] (#0008582) EML/MSG/VCF association erro under WinXP when saving Preferences dialog [-] (#0008630) Reading Confirmations could not be generated [-] (#0008620) v5.0.8 fails to print large messages to the end [-] AV when switching to Subscribed only tab in IMAP folder manager [-] (#0008608) Folder Information Panels Bug! [-] (#0008626) Links in HTML mail get mangled [-] (#0008625) Drag and drop message in same folder [-] (#0008629) All messages after review of properties of a folder are lost - Russian version (5.0.8(.1)) [-] (#0008576) Replies to messages from .EML files were empty [-] (#0008650) Sending a file from Windows Explorer was not working [-] (#0008204) Image smileys were not working when The Bat! was started from a desktop shortcut with no Start in folder defined [-] (#0008280) IMAP : Option Mark deleted messages as read in IMAP account properties is not applied [-] (#0008587) When clicking Minimize, Maximize, Close Button in v5.0.8, the program hangs a while, and the cursor can't be moved. -- Best regards, Maxim mailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello all, Saturday, April 30, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote: We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: - what about TMailMessage released before its use. error, is it fixed? - reply/Forward icons are not added to original messages, when are replies/forwards created - broken warning about opened Reply window for same recipient in 5.0.9.6 - please remove unannounced and untranslatable QR-Code Generator from this bugfix release - still password protected account does not show message totals -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.10 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Marek, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 3:26:51 PM, you wrote: We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: - what about TMailMessage released before its use. error, is it fixed? - reply/Forward icons are not added to original messages, when are replies/forwards created - broken warning about opened Reply window for same recipient in 5.0.9.6 - please remove unannounced and untranslatable QR-Code Generator from this bugfix release - still password protected account does not show message totals Filters not working Viewmodes not working -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? [-] (#0008204) Image smileys were not working when The Bat! was started from a desktop shortcut with no Start in folder defined The icons are not working even when the program is started from the EXE file. Also, my shortcut has the start in folder information -- Rick Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss v5.0.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Marek, Could you please test wether 5.0.10 have new bugs comparing to 5.0.8? If no, we will release it and will be working on the bugs that you have mentioned. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:40:22 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if Control-Shift-Delete is pressed. -- Kind regards, Costas Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)
Hello Maxim, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:40:22 AM, you wrote: We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_5-0-10.msi What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? snip Would you please look into this bug? It prevents I localizing the new hints system... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8178 TIA! -- Best regards, Miles Changmailto:drift...@gmx.com Translator of Chinese The Bat! AntispamSniper Using The Bat! v5.0.10 with AntispamSniper v3.2.6.4 MyMacros 1.11a on Windows XP (v5.1.2600, Service Pack 3) Current beta is 5.0.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
