Re: 10.4.0.16 Bug in editor: Marked text in HTML mode has very low contrast
Hello Ritlabs, When working at the HTML editor, kindly also fix the rather annoying font change problem: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 When composing HTMLs email, I always have to highlight some paragraphs and change to font back, otherwise I'd have two different fonts in my email. Can't have that in business emails. Thanks. Saturday, September 23, 2023, 3:22:54 PM, you wrote: > Hello Alexander, > On Tue, 19 Sep 2023, at 14:54:45 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:54 where I > live) Alexander wrote: > >> Versions with the auto-update feature: >> 32-bit >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-16.msi > BUG in Editor: Marked text in Editor mode Pure-HTML not visible > 1. Set Theme to Standard > 2. Set Editor to Pure-HTML > 3. Hit Ctrl+A > 4. See that marked text is not readable > In mode Plain Text or Rich Text the marked text is really readable (less > contrast). > See image: > > The Bat! 10.4.0.16 32bit / Win 11 22H2 / Desktop Light mode > > Any confirms? > -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.4.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.16 Bug in editor: Marked text in HTML mode has very low contrast
Hello Alexander, hello list, On Tue, 19 Sep 2023, at 14:54:45 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:54 where I live) Alexander wrote: > Versions with the auto-update feature: > 32-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-16.msi BUG in Editor: Marked text in Editor mode Pure-HTML not visible 1. Set Theme to Standard 2. Set Editor to Pure-HTML 3. Hit Ctrl+A 4. See that marked text is not readable In mode Plain Text or Rich Text the marked text is really readable (less contrast). See image: The Bat! 10.4.0.16 32bit / Win 11 22H2 / Desktop Light mode Any confirms? -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.4.0.16 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22621 ) Hello Alexander, On Tue, 19 Sep 2023, at 14:54:45 [GMT +0300] (which was 13:54 where I live) Alexander wrote: Versions with the auto-update feature:32-bithttps://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-16.msi BUG in Editor: Marked text in Editor mode Pure-HTML not visible1. Set Theme to Standard 2. Set Editor to Pure-HTML 3. Hit Ctrl+A 4. See that marked text is not readable In mode Plain Text or Rich Text the marked text is really readable (less contrast).See image: The Bat! 10.4.0.16 32bit / Win 11 22H2 / Desktop Light mode Any confirms? -- RegardsGwen Using The Bat! Version 10.4.0.16 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22621 ) pgpC6xagAcJkP.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.9 Selection of text in HTML editor has bad contrast
Hello Gwen, GvT> BUG: GvT> Selection of text in Pure-HTML editor mode with Standard theme not readable. (32bit, Windows 11 22H2) GvT> Gives Dark text on darkblue selection background. Regressed with .9! Confirmed in 64 bit. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v10.4.0.9 on Windows v10 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.9 Selection of text in HTML editor has bad contrast
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 7 Jul 2023, at 19:11:34 [GMT +0300] (which was 18:11 where I live) Stefan wrote: > Version 10.4.0.9 is now available from > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-4-0-9.msi BUG: Selection of text in Pure-HTML editor mode with Standard theme not readable. (32bit, Windows 11 22H2) Gives Dark text on darkblue selection background. Regressed with .9! See 10.4.0.9: Contrast was good in in 10.4.0.6: -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.4.0.9 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22621 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.11 Font change in HTML editor
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 1 May 2023 19:52:09 +0300 GMT (01/05/2023, 23:52 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 10.3.3.11 is now available: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-11.msi Up & Running. Any work on the changing font type in the HTML editor? https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 It was still happening in the previous version. I'll report back. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.4 / Font changes in HTML editor
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:31:11 +0700 GMT (17/03/2023, 10:31 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: >> Versions without auto-update: >> 64-bit >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-4.msi > U&R >> What's new: >> [-] The font size is now preserved when replying to an HTML-message > My current pet peeve. Thanks! I will test it over the next days and weeks and > will report if any font change happens again. Sorry, not fixed. Steps to reproduce: Reply to an email that uses a different font from our settings for replies. I have set this email to Calibri 11 now. My standard font is Times New romand 1. Start replying. Calibri 11 will be used. Hinter a few times to create empty lines. Go up with the mouse to start writing in one of the empty lines. Font has changes to Times New Roman 10. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.4 / Font changes in HTML editor
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:41:12 +0200 GMT (15/03/2023, 20:41 +0700 GMT), Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10.3.3.4 is out there: > Versions without auto-update: > 64-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-4.msi U&R > What's new: > [-] The font size is now preserved when replying to an HTML-message My current pet peeve. Thanks! I will test it over the next days and weeks and will report if any font change happens again. > Have fun! Will do! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repeated Access Violation errors in HTML editor
Confirmed in 10.3.2 Halloween Ed. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 10.3.2 with IMAP on Windows 10.0. Build: 19044 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repeated Access Violation errors in HTML editor
Hello Julian, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 1:11:22 PM, you wrote: > I have upgraded to the Halloween Edition. I am now getting repeated Access > Violation errors when I am editing emails (HTML Editor) > "Access violation at address 017EC5D8 in module 'TheBat.exe'. Read of > address ." > It is the same message each time. The warnings appear to come in pairs - one > immediately after the next, then a pause then some more. The errors start > appearing after some minutes of editing the message and the number of errors > seems to be related to the length of the email so perhaps spell-checker > related? I can confirm the AV (but I will have to check the address next time it happens). I don't use the spell checker, so that is not the culprit. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.2 HTML editor Access Violation
Hello TBBETA, I often receive this AV when using the PureHTML editor: When I click it away, it comes up again. The trick is to hit "enter" to make it dgo away, and then save the message as draft into Outbox with the mouse with the otehr hand. Can't do both with the mouse, because I am not fast enough. Then I can re-open it from the Outbox and continue editing. Happens several times a day. I have not detected a pattern yet. Does anybody see the same? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: The Bat! v10.1.0.3 Paste problems in Pure-HTML from xls with cyrilic
Howdy! Вы писали 13 сентября 2022 г., 12:35:57: > Hello George, > On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, at 12:16:15 [GMT +0300] (which was 11:16 where I > live) George wrote: >> 10-1-0-3, where do you find it? > Just see this: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi > When I do paste any cells with Cyrillic symbols from Excel 2019 to TB! with Pure-HTML it goes to strange symbols (крякозябры), if I used RichText it paste normal. It was fine before beta with adding RichText. Please fix it that in PureHTML and don't kill it RichText - it needs for me too - when I works with pararagraph styles in a letter. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 HTML editor
Hello TBBETA, On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 06:18:56 +0700 GMT (16/08/2022, 06:18 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: >> [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) > So far so good. ;-) I haven't had a jump of cursor or sudden change of fonts > yet. Let me check for more days before I add a note to the bug reports. I just had a change of font. Using the HTML editor a lot, this was only the second time. I cannot put my finger on any reason yet, but maybe someone else has experienced the same. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2/ PURE-HTML editor to quick templates
Howdy! Вы писали 08 августа 2022 г., 21:11:21: > [+] RichText editor as a simpler to use HTML editor Please return PURE-HTML editor to quick templates. I wanna to kill somebody, Rtf-editor not works normally with text and I can't choose now new html-editor. Return back old and cut new... Strange decision. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 HTML editor
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 22:53:55 +0300 GMT (09/08/2022, 02:53 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Dear All, > Version 10.1.0.2 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi > Here is a short list of changes: > [+] RichText editor as a simpler to use HTML editor > [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) > [*] Update CEF to v103 > [*] Crop function in the HTML editor moved to a dialog window So far so good. ;-) I haven't had a jump of cursor or sudden change of fonts yet. Let me check for more days before I add a note to the bug reports. > RichText is reincarnation of the older HTML editor which is based on the > RichView component, we decided to make it available again as the current HTML > editor (added in v9 cycle) could be a pain to handle sometimes :) I'll try that later. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Blue vertical bars in HTML message
Good day beta list members, Friday, August 12, 2022, 9:38:17 PM, you wrote: > G'day Martin, > On Monday, August 8, 2022, at 4:25:37 AM, you (Martin) wrote: >> Hi TBBETA >> What's about these strange blue vertical bars in a HTML message I want >> to print. In print preview you can see them - see the screenshot as >> attachment. >> Is there any possibility to switch them off? > Aren't they the equivalent of the > >> >>> threading indicators for in plain > text messages? > Regards That is what I have always thought, although being a Luddite I tend to avoid HTML in e-mail. -- Best regards, Chris mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv "Using The Bat! v10.1 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Blue vertical bars in HTML message
Hi TBBETA What's about these strange blue vertical bars in a HTML message I want to print. In print preview you can see them - see the screenshot as attachment. Is there any possibility to switch them off? -- Best regards, Martin mailto:mar...@postzone.org TheBat! 10.1 Pro (64bit, with OTFE) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:51:16 +0700 GMT (19/03/2022, 08:51 +0700 GMT), Thomas ML wrote: >>> This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was >>> introduced. >> And yet from the lack of interest in acknowledging or trying to fix the >> problem it would seem they forgot about it. So as it's the only bug that >> really bothers me and half the point of the program is writing and sending >> emails, I thought I'd remind them yet again that it's still broken. > Kindly add a Note to the bug report. This will make it come to the top again > in their list. Have the sudden font changes in the HTML editor been addressed in the latest beta? https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor (was:[SPAM?] v10 beta 5)
Hello Ira, Saturday, March 19, 2022, 12:48:20 AM, you wrote: >> This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was >> introduced. > And yet from the lack of interest in acknowledging or trying to fix the > problem it would seem they forgot about it. So as it's the only bug that > really bothers me and half the point of the program is writing and sending > emails, I thought I'd remind them yet again that it's still broken. Kindly add a Note to the bug report. This will make it come to the top again in their list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor (was:[SPAM?] v10 beta 5)
Hello Thomas, Friday, March 18, 2022, 4:23:24 AM, you wrote: > This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was > introduced. And yet from the lack of interest in acknowledging or trying to fix the problem it would seem they forgot about it. So as it's the only bug that really bothers me and half the point of the program is writing and sending emails, I thought I'd remind them yet again that it's still broken. -- Ira 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor (was:[SPAM?] v10 beta 5)
Dear Ira, Friday, March 18, 2022, 2:36:33 PM, you wrote: >> The Bat! v10 beta 5 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/8 > It's installed and working . > > But the Reply editor and Properties/Templates is still REALLY BADLY messed > up. Here are some of the issues. > > There are hidden spaces with Courier font that I can't change and often can't > find, but when I reply to a message and start typing, the font is courier > even though I've selected the whole reply template and changed to to Arial > many times. Even when a template seems to be all Arial, under some conditions > like when pressing the up arrow onto an empty line, the font shows as Courier > but if I start on the line above and press Down Arrow, the Font shows as > Arial, > When pressing Reply the cursor starts in position 1 and pressing the down > arrow does nothing as if the cursor is in never never land. Pressing right a > couple of time move it over one space and then it starts to make sense. > > Sometimes pressing Enter does nothing. > This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was introduced. Kindly see https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Thomas, Thursday, August 19, 2021, 2:14:41 PM, you wrote: > Hello Stefan, > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:18:14 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 10:18 +0700 GMT), > Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Hello Gunivortus, >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:37:29 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 0:37 +0700 GMT), >> Gunivortus Goos wrote: >>> Hello, >>> This test message is written while in TB's footer bar >>> it is set to: >>> Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). >>> After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for >>> a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from >>> Arial 14 to Arial 11. >>> >>> Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu >>> failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. >>> Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. >> I understand this is your reply to mid:681002331.20210708103...@gmx.net >> >> Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in >> HTML emails" > Just happened again with 9.4.3.4. Bug still present in 9.5 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replies to HTML messages freezing TB!
Hello TBBETA, This is a problem which I have had with many version, even before the new HTML engine. When I hit reply on some HTML messages, TB! freezes for a couple of seconds. This is annoying an interrupts the work flow. I have now noticed that the problem is that the Disk usage, as measured by the task manager, increases. For some reason, there are many many disk accesses. Can anybody confirm this? - I will send an offending message to Stefan by PM, as it contains company information. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19042 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:18:14 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 10:18 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Gunivortus, > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:37:29 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 0:37 +0700 GMT), > Gunivortus Goos wrote: >> Hello, >> This test message is written while in TB's footer bar >> it is set to: >> Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). >> After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for >> a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from >> Arial 14 to Arial 11. >> >> Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu >> failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. >> Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. > I understand this is your reply to mid:681002331.20210708103...@gmx.net > > Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in > HTML emails" Just happened again with 9.4.3.4. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.3.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.3.2 hellish bliniking of html letters
Saturday, August 7, 2021, 12:51:27 PM, you wrote: > Saturday, August 7, 2021, 12:45:37 PM, you wrote: >> Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:36:41 AM, you wrote: >>> Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:09:14 AM, you wrote: >>>> Howdy! >>>> Вы писали 6.08.21 г., 17:35:08: >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> Version 9.4.3.2 is available >>>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.3.2-x64-full.7z >>>> Please check support ticket 92071 (I do a video and add .eml example) >>>> >>>> Many HTML letters have annoying blinking What have I done to kill this bug >>> - delete all the mine rules about downloading images in html-viewer >>> - start to using automatically download images for all sources >>> - clearing cache many times. >>> >>> Now it not blinked. But I fear to try again rules for downloading images. >>> Regards, George >>> >>> >> Up. Open today TB and flickering is here on 90% of HTML letters. Am I one >> with this crazy thing? >> >> > Clearing cache and restart - looks like help again. Disgusting. We can't > press clear cache every start. I do clear cache after every start of PC with TB! Or blinking is starts on most of HTML letters! What the cache? Why it added to the TB! And how we live glad without it? 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.3.2 hellish bliniking of html letters
Saturday, August 7, 2021, 12:45:37 PM, you wrote: > Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:36:41 AM, you wrote: >> Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:09:14 AM, you wrote: >>> Howdy! >>> Вы писали 6.08.21 г., 17:35:08: >>>> Dear All, >>>> Version 9.4.3.2 is available >>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.3.2-x64-full.7z >>> Please check support ticket 92071 (I do a video and add .eml example) >>> >>> Many HTML letters have annoying blinking What have I done to kill this bug >> - delete all the mine rules about downloading images in html-viewer >> - start to using automatically download images for all sources >> - clearing cache many times. >> >> Now it not blinked. But I fear to try again rules for downloading images. >> Regards, George >> >> > Up. Open today TB and flickering is here on 90% of HTML letters. Am I one > with this crazy thing? > > Clearing cache and restart - looks like help again. Disgusting. We can't press clear cache every start. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.3.2 hellish bliniking of html letters
Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:36:41 AM, you wrote: > Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:09:14 AM, you wrote: >> Howdy! >> Вы писали 6.08.21 г., 17:35:08: >>> Dear All, >>> Version 9.4.3.2 is available >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.3.2-x64-full.7z >> Please check support ticket 92071 (I do a video and add .eml example) >> >> Many HTML letters have annoying blinking What have I done to kill this bug > - delete all the mine rules about downloading images in html-viewer > - start to using automatically download images for all sources > - clearing cache many times. > > Now it not blinked. But I fear to try again rules for downloading images. > Regards, George > > Up. Open today TB and flickering is here on 90% of HTML letters. Am I one with this crazy thing? 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.3.2 hellish bliniking of html letters
Saturday, August 7, 2021, 1:09:14 AM, you wrote: > Howdy! > Вы писали 6.08.21 г., 17:35:08: >> Dear All, >> Version 9.4.3.2 is available >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.3.2-x64-full.7z > Please check support ticket 92071 (I do a video and add .eml example) > > Many HTML letters have annoying blinking What have I done to kill this bug - delete all the mine rules about downloading images in html-viewer - start to using automatically download images for all sources - clearing cache many times. Now it not blinked. But I fear to try again rules for downloading images. Regards, George 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.3.2 hellish bliniking of html letters
Howdy! Вы писали 6.08.21 г., 17:35:08: > Dear All, > Version 9.4.3.2 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.3.2-x64-full.7z Please check support ticket 92071 (I do a video and add .eml example) Many HTML letters have annoying blinking Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:47:48 + GMT (31-Jul-21, 8:33 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello MAU, > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:22:20 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 1:22 +0700 GMT), > MAU wrote: >>> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we >>> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload >>> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice >>> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". >> And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one >> URL. > I mean the sender. We used to have an menu item for that when clicking on the > IDM in the past. I now have choicxes, such as "Download images for this message" and "Download images" (which I assume means all images for all messages). So to be precise, my suggestion is to add a choice "Always download images from this sender". And then this sender will be added to the IDM. I htink this is how it worked in the past. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Thomas, > How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we > used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload > pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice > to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one URL. > Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image > Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient. You don't need to copy the URL and paste it. Just open the Image Download Manager and on the Downloads tab select the URL you want to create the rule for and click on Create Rule button. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Stefan, > By "known" actually meant URLs allowed by download rules there. This is both confusing and costs time, each day again. Each morning, after starting my pc and The Bat!, I mark pro inbound the spam mails, send them to the Spamtrap at the mailserver and add them as spam in Antispamsniper. It might be an idea to also blacklist the URLs or adresses of those marked spam mails in a blacklist tied to the IDL. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.2.10 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello MAU, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:22:20 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 1:22 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we >> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload >> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice >> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". > And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one > URL. I mean the sender. We used to have an menu item for that when clicking on the IDM in the past. >> Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image >> Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient. > You don't need to copy the URL and paste it. Just open the Image > Download Manager and on the Downloads tab select the URL you want to > create the rule for and click on Create Rule button. I didn't see anything like that just now. I saw a whole confusing list of URLs. When clicking on the tab Rules, I saw some email addresses that I had whitelisted earlier. Something like this I would expect, so that I just need to click OK. Or, as in the past, a menu item "Whitelist this sender" in addition to "Open IDM". Will make for increased work efficiency. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:32:24 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 16:32 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to >> have? > I think it's a good point :) Actually, we have some relatively fresh ideas > about image download management, we're going to come up with some in future > (I hope). I am looking forward to what is going to come! ;-) >> By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing >> after the words "Image Download Manager". > There was no arrow after "Image Download Manager", AFAIR - at least the menu > structure didn't change, we've just re-enabled the menu command and made it > visible. I mentioned this with consistency in mind. It's cosmetic only. All other menu items that do not directly create action when clicked on, but offer a choice or soemthing else to clock before an action is taken, have an arrow. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Thomas, > How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to > have? I think it's a good point :) Actually, we have some relatively fresh ideas about image download management, we're going to come up with some in future (I hope). > By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing > after the words "Image Download Manager". There was no arrow after "Image Download Manager", AFAIR - at least the menu structure didn't change, we've just re-enabled the menu command and made it visible. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Gunivortus,
> It was set to: Deny unknown.
> However, when is a sender unknown?
This is just an old wording and it just confirms my hyphothesis that the
setting in the preferences is out of sync with the old setting of the image
download manager ("Deny unknown" was the default before switching to Chromium
Engine).
By "known" actually meant URLs allowed by download rules there.
--
Best regards,
Stefan Tanurkov
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Re: HTML media
On Friday, July 30, 2021, 09:23:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to > have? Agreed – the Image Download Manager should not be buried in the menu. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Performance is directly affected by the perversity of inanimate objects. -- Boyle's Ninth Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:57:17 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 13:57 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to >> "Automatically for all sources". >> Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible >> anymore. >> Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each >> mail separately. > Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - > what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). > Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown". How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient. By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing after the words "Image Download Manager". -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Stefan, > Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - > what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). > Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown". It was set to: Deny unknown. However, when is a sender unknown? I am a long.time PayPal user, use it several times a week, and so, I would not see consider paypal.com as unknown. Yet, all media of my PayPal emails, (I've even a special folder for them) were grayed out. It is the same for companies I am subscribed to, to get their news, such as CCleaner, Ebay.de, etc. I do not have any of them in an address book, as most of them are newsletters - one-way mails. I've set it now to allow all, but that is not preferred, as I do not need media from spam mails, be they about bitcoins, sex or medicine 'offers'. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.2.10 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Gunivortus, > In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to > "Automatically for all sources". > Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible > anymore. > Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each > mail separately. Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown". -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML media
Hello, In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to "Automatically for all sources". Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible anymore. Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each mail separately. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.2.10 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9 Email addresses in HTML editor
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 14:56:43 +0200 GMT (28-Jul-21, 19:56 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:57:58, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.9-x64.7z > I noticed a bug — when pasting an e-mail address like > to HTML editor, The Bat makes the address into > URL, but doesn't include the mailto: prefix, making the URL useless. Confirmed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 - HTML editor - selecting text with Ctrl+Shift+Arrow makes multi-word jumps
Hello Viktor, On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 10:15:28 +0200 GMT (27-Jul-21, 15:15 +0700 GMT), Viktor Kabelac wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z > After playing with this version some more, I noticed one behavior that I'd > like to point out. > When editing an HTML message and selecting text "wordwise" using > Ctrl+Shift+Arrow (left/right), the editor sometimes selects one or two words > as expected and then starts to make jumps of several words, selecting random > large portions of the text - in both directions (not only in the direction I > wanted to select in but also "back" behind the caret). > The boundaries of the large selecting block seem to stay the same even if I > try to start selecting a different word, wich brings me to the idea that > possibly something in the HTML causes the stops. > It happens with a fresh mail written from scratch too - it only needs to be > HTML. Terxt editing is OK i this regard. > Has anyone experienced that behavior and possibly already created an issue > for it? Yes, I have experienced that. It's an expansion of the "jumping cursor syndrome": https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2125 Jumping cursor https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline to HTML messages I think they are all related. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 - HTML editor - selecting text with Ctrl+Shift+Arrow makes multi-word jumps
Hello all, Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30 AM, you wrote: > Dear All, > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z After playing with this version some more, I noticed one behavior that I'd like to point out. When editing an HTML message and selecting text "wordwise" using Ctrl+Shift+Arrow (left/right), the editor sometimes selects one or two words as expected and then starts to make jumps of several words, selecting random large portions of the text - in both directions (not only in the direction I wanted to select in but also "back" behind the caret). The boundaries of the large selecting block seem to stay the same even if I try to start selecting a different word, wich brings me to the idea that possibly something in the HTML causes the stops. It happens with a fresh mail written from scratch too - it only needs to be HTML. Terxt editing is OK i this regard. Has anyone experienced that behavior and possibly already created an issue for it? -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:kabe...@rar.cz TheBat! 9.4.2.7 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19042 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:15:26 +0300 GMT (22-Jul-21, 17:15 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is >> HTML code. > Yep, confirmed :) It has something to do with changes in the template engine. Thanks, looking forward to the next beta. Sent by PM. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Thomas, > Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is > HTML code. Yep, confirmed :) It has something to do with changes in the template engine. > I also mentioned earlier (mid:298798343.20210720175...@gmx.net) that is does > not work with a message in Thai language. It does work with other messages in > Thai language though. I can send the offending message and one that has no > problems (neither for replying nor for forwarding) to you by PM if you like. Please send it to me, sure -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:11:29 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 13:11 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Jernej, > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 07:49:32 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 12:49 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >> >>> HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: >>> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 >>> Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, >>> in which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it >>> correctly. >> Wikipedia has a nice explanation: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of >> using U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic >> wrapping). > I had to get back into the tread to see what this was about: Kindly do not > cut too much of the previous conversation that the context gets lost. Thanks. > > OK, thanks for the Wikipedia article. I experience the opposite: Hard line > breaks are inserted by teh HTML editor where none is wanted; the bug > mentioned by you in mid:43367910.20210719231...@eternallybored.org is still > present. > > For example in the paragraph above, I certainly did not insert an LF after > "OK," and I cannot get rid of it. In the viewer, after receiving this message back, there was no hard LF after "OK,". Now that means the editor and the viewer do not show the same. I clicked on the HTML icon, and there is indeed no hard LF. The editor is not WYSIWYG. Bug. I again see a hrd LF after '"OK,' but the second " is on the nexct line... weired. Also, in the viewer there are no soft line breaks, the lines in the incoming message just go on outside the screen and I have to scroll to read them. Bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Thomas Fernandez, > > Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in > HTML emails" > Unfortunately, I can't. This is not the first time I tried to add to an existing topic in the bugtracker. My login info isn't accepted. The 'lost password' option says, no account with my info exists. Trying to create a new account says, the email address is in use. Quite some time ago I wrote about this problem to Ritlabs, but never got an answer. And thus, if I have something to report, I do that here only. By the way, you'll notice some of the above is in italic font setting. That did TB spontaneously. Kind regards, Gunivortus P.S. By accident, I cut too much away from your message, that is why my footer is not there. :-) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Jernej, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 07:49:32 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 12:49 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > >> HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: >> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 >> Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in >> which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it >> correctly. > Wikipedia has a nice explanation: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of using > U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic wrapping). I had to get back into the tread to see what this was about: Kindly do not cut too much of the previous conversation that the context gets lost. Thanks. OK, thanks for the Wikipedia article. I experience the opposite: Hard line breaks are inserted by teh HTML editor where none is wanted; the bug mentioned by you in mid:43367910.20210719231...@eternallybored.org is still present. For example in the paragraph above, I certainly did not insert an LF after "OK," and I cannot get rid of it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 05:13:48, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in > which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it > correctly. Wikipedia has a nice explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of using U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic wrapping). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything breaks down. -- Orion's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:30:30 +0300 GMT (21-Jul-21, 15:30 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Forward of HTML messages was inserting HTML code Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is HTML code. I also mentioned earlier (mid:298798343.20210720175...@gmx.net) that is does not work with a message in Thai language. It does work with other messages in Thai language though. I can send the offending message and one that has no problems (neither for replying nor for forwarding) to you by PM if you like. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Gunivortus, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:37:29 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 0:37 +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: > Hello, > This test message is written while in TB's footer bar > it is set to: > Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). > After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for > a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from > Arial 14 to Arial 11. > > Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu > failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. > Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. > I understand this is your reply to mid:681002331.20210708103...@gmx.net Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in HTML emails" -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:17:42 +0200 GMT (21-Jul-21, 23:17 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it correctly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
html mode
Hello, This test message is written while in TB's footer bar it is set to: Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from Arial 14 to Arial 11. Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.2.7 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.36.4.0 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 HTML editor: Forwarded Messages
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 20:29:09 +0300 GMT (20-Jul-21, 0:29 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.6 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Forwarding HTML messages with non-ASCII characters could be garbled Not fixed: This is supposed to be Thai language. In fact, the viewer displayed it correctly when I received the message from our university's library. I see the same when I want to reply to the message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.6 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Hello Jernej, On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 12:37:31 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 17:37 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 10:21:33, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> My editor window is full screen, and I have these hard LFs. Not always, mind >> you. > Looks like the actual problem is that TB is using non-breaking spaces instead > of regular spaces, which then results in weird (non)wrapping (look at the > source of the message, there's a ton of 's). Please create a bug report, I will add a note. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
On Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 10:21:33, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > My editor window is full screen, and I have these hard LFs. Not always, mind > you. Looks like the actual problem is that TB is using non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces, which then results in weird (non)wrapping (look at the source of the message, there's a ton of 's). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything happens at the same time with nothing in between. -- Robertson's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.6 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML viewer: Background colour switching
Hello TBBETA, I received an email that looked normal until I clicked into it. Then suddenly the whole background turned red. I cannot post it here as it was from my bank and contains sensitive data, so I will send it to Stefan by PM. Anyway, if anybody has experienced anything similar, please let us know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Hello Gleason, On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 22:50:57 -0400 GMT (20-Jul-21, 9:50 +0700 GMT), Gleason wrote: > Thomas, >> Hello Jernej, >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:10:27 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 4:10 +0700 GMT), >> Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z >>> HTML editor is kinda broken at least since 9.4.2.5 – if I type a long >>> enough line, TB seems to insert a hard break somewhere near 2/3rds of the >>> first line, but the second line does not wrap at all (or wraps in a >>> completely different place). Additionally, if I write an open bracket >>> followed by a space like this: ( and then continue typing, I then can't go >>> back and delete that space with the backspace key. Once the editor also >>> managed to delete everything from the cursor to the end of message when I >>> was just trying to delete a selected word (no idea how to reproduce this, >>> it was completely random). I'm writing this as a single paragraph, just to >>> demonstrate the weird wrapping that's happening. >> Confirmed for 9.4.2.5. Please create a bug report. (The paragraph below is a >> good example of the suddenly inserted hard LF.) >> When will the three important HTML bugs (and please add this one as the >> fourth) be fixed? It would be good to be able to use TB! in a business >> environment again. > When I stretch the message edit window wide enough, all wrapping disappears. > No hard lf present. > When displayed in the message preview pane, those long lines of text > disappear into the right margin. No soft lf. My editor window is full screen, and I have these hard LFs. Not always, mind you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Thomas, > Hello Jernej, > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:10:27 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 4:10 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >> On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z >> HTML editor is kinda broken at least since 9.4.2.5 – if I type a >> long enough line, TB seems to insert a hard break somewhere near >> 2/3rds of the first line, but the second line does not wrap at all >> (or wraps in a completely different place). Additionally, if I write >> an open bracket followed by a space like this: ( and then continue >> typing, I then can't go back and delete that space with the >> backspace key. Once the editor also managed to delete everything >> from the cursor to the end of message when I was just trying to >> delete a selected word (no idea how to reproduce this, it was >> completely random). I'm writing this as a single paragraph, just to >> demonstrate the weird wrapping that's happening. > Confirmed for 9.4.2.5. Please create a bug report. (The paragraph > below is a good example of the suddenly inserted hard LF.) > When will the three important HTML bugs (and please add this one as > the fourth) be fixed? It would be good to be able to use TB! in a business > environment again. > When I stretch the message edit window wide enough, all wrapping disappears. No hard lf present. When displayed in the message preview pane, those long lines of text disappear into the right margin. No soft lf. -- Gleason TheBat! 9.4.2.6 Pro (64bit, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:10:27 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 4:10 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z > HTML editor is kinda broken at least since 9.4.2.5 – if I type a long enough > line, TB seems to insert a hard break somewhere near 2/3rds of the first > line, but the second line does not wrap at all (or wraps in a completely > different place). Additionally, if I write an open bracket followed by a > space like this: ( and then continue typing, I then can't go back and delete > that space with the backspace key. Once the editor also managed to delete > everything from the cursor to the end of message when I was just trying to > delete a selected word (no idea how to reproduce this, it was completely > random). I'm writing this as a single paragraph, just to demonstrate the > weird wrapping that's happening. Confirmed for 9.4.2.5. Please create a bug report. (The paragraph below is a good example of the suddenly inserted hard LF.) When will the three important HTML bugs (and please add this one as the fourth) be fixed? It would be good to be able to use TB! in a business environment again. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.5 HTML bugs still unfixed
Title: Re: 9.4.2.5 HTML bugs still unfixed Howdy! Вы писали 17.07.21 г., 5:00:28: Hello Stefan, On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:18:36 +0300 GMT (16-Jul-21, 23:18 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: Version 9.4.2.5 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.5-x64.7z Here is a short list of changes: Not fixed HTML bugs: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2144 Internal links in HTML message are not being followed (HTML viewer) https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 Font change in HTML emails (HTML editor) https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline to HTML messages (HTML editor) With these bugs still unfixed, I will not use a verison with the new HTML editor on my work laptop, and I cannot recommend to any non-tech user to upgrade. I tried to reply inline to an HTML message yesterday and it was so much headache with the jumping cursor that I ended deleted the draft and creating a new reply using top-posting, which means the new HTML editor is still not usable. Changing fonts in a business email look highly unprofessional, and also makes the new HTML editor unusable in a business environment. Not following internal links (which are quite typical in newsletters) makes the user think his mouse is broken, or - and they will be right - their email client is. Kindly fix these bugs to make TB! a professional tool again that normal people can use in the office. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 And please return old table redactor for a time. New table redactor don't works fine with pasted excel/word tables (nor normal pasting fill colors nor can't change it). I do already say this many times. Just install MS office on your side and check it! And please return styles! And please return smiles This is abnormal behavior to add some new and kill old features! Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.5 HTML bugs still unfixed
Hello Thomas, > Not fixed HTML bugs: > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2144 Internal links in HTML message are > not being followed (HTML viewer) > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 Font change in HTML emails (HTML > editor) > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline > to HTML messages (HTML editor) > With these bugs still unfixed, I will not use a verison with the new HTML > editor on my work laptop, and I cannot recommend to any non-tech user to > upgrade. I agree, HTML emails are far from usable and quite aggrevating to > test. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v9.4.2.5 on Windows v10 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.5 HTML bugs still unfixed
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:18:36 +0300 GMT (16-Jul-21, 23:18 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.5 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.5-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: Not fixed HTML bugs: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2144 Internal links in HTML message are not being followed (HTML viewer) https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 Font change in HTML emails (HTML editor) https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline to HTML messages (HTML editor) With these bugs still unfixed, I will not use a verison with the new HTML editor on my work laptop, and I cannot recommend to any non-tech user to upgrade. I tried to reply inline to an HTML message yesterday and it was so much headache with the jumping cursor that I ended deleted the draft and creating a new reply using top-posting, which means the new HTML editor is still not usable. Changing fonts in a business email look highly unprofessional, and also makes the new HTML editor unusable in a business environment. Not following internal links (which are quite typical in newsletters) makes the user think his mouse is broken, or - and they will be right - their email client is. Kindly fix these bugs to make TB! a professional tool again that normal people can use in the office. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Jernej, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 15:21:40 +0200 GMT (11-Jul-21, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 13:35:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Well, it works in the plaintext viewer but it does *not* work in the HTML >> viewer. I see the message number highlighted and clickable, but nothing >> happens. > Did you make the link yourself, or was it made automatically? Because if I > paste , TB makes the link > automatically, and it should work once I post it (since it includes the mid: > prefix, which your link lacked). I made the link by myself; I copied and paste the mid from the headers and added "mid:" in front. How did you paste with "mid:", as it is not in the incoming mail? The HTML viewer should recognise the link evenif "mid:" is added manually, as the plaintext viewer does. Secondly and more importantly, I clicked on the link and TB! was "Not Responding" any more, i.e. I had to kill it with the task manager. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 21:03:58, mse wrote: > I assume it is because of the additional dot after the @-sign. Additional dot? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Enough research will tend to support your theory. -- Murphy's Law of Research TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Jernej, > On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 19:02:09, MAU wrote: >> Second, I clicked on the link and it does not work. TB just stalls with the >> turning circle (what used to be the hourglass) and TB does not respond at >> all. I had to kill it with Task Manager. > Yeah, same thing happened here. I assume it is because of the additional dot after the @-sign. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (32-bit) Pro on Windows 10 (Build 19043) (64-bit) without OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 19:02:09, MAU wrote: > Second, I clicked on the link and it does not work. TB just stalls with the > turning circle (what used to be the hourglass) and TB does not respond at > all. I had to kill it with Task Manager. Yeah, same thing happened here. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If things were left to chance, they'd be better -- Langin's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Jernej, > Did you make the link yourself, or was it made automatically? > Because if I paste , TB makes the link automatically, and it should > work once I post it (since it includes the mid: prefix, which your link > lacked). First, the link which shown in the HTML viewer is not included in the quoted text (See above). Why? Second, I clicked on the link and it does not work. TB just stalls with the turning circle (what used to be the hourglass) and TB does not respond at all. I had to kill it with Task Manager. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 13:35:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Well, it works in the plaintext viewer but it does *not* work in the HTML > viewer. I see the message number highlighted and clickable, but nothing > happens. Did you make the link yourself, or was it made automatically? Because if I paste , TB makes the link automatically, and it should work once I post it (since it includes the mid: prefix, which your link lacked). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Where there's a will, there's a won't. -- Law of Inertia TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Marck, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 09:56:02 +0100 GMT (11-Jul-21, 15:56 +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: > On 11 July 2021 at 03:50 Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points > ... TF>> Do you mean something like I described in my posting ? TF>> By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the message is received from the list. > I see the same in the received message here. > The link doesn't work. It does do something. It blanks the current message > view. The message can be redisplayed easily enough by switching between > display tabs in a message with multiple parts. The link *does* work and > appear correctly in the quote above, which makes this a bug in the HTML > editor. Well, it works in the plaintext viewer but it does *not* work in the HTML viewer. I see the message number highlighted and clickable, but nothing happens. My suggestion is to make it work also in the HTML viewer. > I also see: > Summoning my 'snip' QT using its defined hotkey. Using > to summon it by handle no longer even tries to work. It just > brings up the QT list with my snip QT selected, which half works. This is > true of both MicroEd and the HTML editor. > Paste as quote from original HTML into Plain Text reply only puts the reply > quote in from of the first line of a paragraph, even one that's wrapping. This is a different issue (and should probably be honoured with a separate email thread). crtl-space does show the QTs over here, at least in this plaintext editor. I just tried with the HTML editor, once I got an access vilation, the second time it worked without a problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello MAU, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 10:56:01 +0200 GMT (11-Jul-21, 15:56 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: > Hello Thomas, >> By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, >> not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the >> message is received from the list. > It does not work if viewing HTML. No problem if the Text tab is > selected. Well, it should work, don't you agree? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On 11 July 2021 at 03:50 Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points ... TF> Do you mean something like I described in my posting ? TF> By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the message is received from the list. I see the same in the received message here. The link doesn't work. It does do something. It blanks the current message view. The message can be redisplayed easily enough by switching between display tabs in a message with multiple parts. The link *does* work and appear correctly in the quote above, which makes this a bug in the HTML editor. I also see: Summoning my 'snip' QT using its defined hotkey. Using to summon it by handle no longer even tries to work. It just brings up the QT list with my snip QT selected, which half works. This is true of both MicroEd and the HTML editor. Paste as quote from original HTML into Plain Text reply only puts the reply quote in from of the first line of a paragraph, even one that's wrapping. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v9.4.2 on Windows 10.0.19043 pgpJS7loNZOWW.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Thomas, > By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, > not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the > message is received from the list. It does not work if viewing HTML. No problem if the Text tab is selected. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Sergey, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 00:32:07 +0300 GMT (11-Jul-21, 4:32 +0700 GMT), Sergey Chubchenko wrote: > Hi Stefan, >> Version 9.4.2 is available for testing - > U&R. > > One bug (id: 0002146): after selecting text in HTML Editor, change font name > (by manual entering font name at toolbar) and press "Enter" - selection will > lose from selected text and need to reselect it again to change other styles > of this text. Do you mean something like I described in my posting ? By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the message is received from the list. Why did your sig jump on top of the second paragraph in this reply? In your original message the sig is below the paragraph. And yes, I support your wish. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4 Need of minimum font-size setting for HTML viewer
Hello Gwen, > Please support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2145 Done. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.4.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4 Need of minimum font-size setting for HTML viewer
Hello Betalist, On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, at 16:47:07 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:47 where I live) Gwen wrote: > A setting to show HTML content on minimum fontsize like in a browser would be > nice. Please support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2145 -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 9.4.1 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 19043 ) pgpPIRKLkSjyu.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work
Hello George, On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:44:28 +0300 GMT (06-Jul-21, 12:44 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: >> Using shift-crtl-V: > Using this shift+ctrl+v is not work as needed! If you have any formatted text > (with color, or bold, or some another size) with shift+ctrl+v you are paste > to this part of text with parameters as you have of this formatted text (if > you have blue word before then pasted text with shift+ctrl+v will be blue on > v9-3-4 and early - it paste formatted like previous text in the message > window, with v9-4 it goes to be pasted without formatting as previous text > and needs to use notepad as gasket to have this normal behavior). crtl-V: Bold underline bold underline blue shift-crtl-V: Bold underline bold underline blue Works as expected over here. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4 Need of minimum font-size setting for HTML viewer
Hello Sopranos, On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, at 16:47:07 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:47 where I live) Gwen wrote: > A setting to show HTML content on minimum fontsize like in a browser would be > nice. can you read this? Can you read the line above this one? ;-) -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 9.4 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 19043 ) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.4 Need of minimum font-size setting for HTML viewer
Hello Sopranos, hello Stefan, currently teh Chromium CEF HTML viewer shows content size as authored. This is sometimes problematical if fonts have only 1, 2, 4 or 6 px height. A setting to show HTML content on minimum fontsize like in a browser would be nice. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 9.4 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 19043 ) pgpGHvsgh3WVD.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font change in HTML emails
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:00:04 +0700 GMT (30-Jun-21, 9:00 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello TBBEA, On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 07:22:35 +0700 GMT (14-Feb-21, 7:22 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just about anything else. If you need a monospaced font that's available (almost) everywhere, use Lucida Console or Consolas - neither have the problem with thinness on high-DPI displays that Courier New has. The problem is not the font, the problem is your display. Anyway, I am using Lucida Console now. The problem of this font is with my eyes - I don't like it. Going back to Courier New. ;-) Change of font in the middle of the email is back: Changing from Calibri 11 (that was the font of the email I was replying to) to Courier New 10 (my own standard) from one paragraph to another without reason. It happens only sometimes and I haven't found a pattern yt. It does not look good in business emails. Even if I highlight the whole reply and choose a font and size, it changes again. It seems to be random, sometimes hitting triggers that, and just now it changed in the middle of a line to my default font and size. Confirmations? I think this should be easy to fix, once the developers look at the code and find where the default font and size is triggered. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Internal links in HTML message are not being followed
Hello Gwen, On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 11:31:16 +0200 GMT (06-Jul-21, 16:31 +0700 GMT), Gwen wrote: >> Some HTML messages have tags or internal links. So that if you >> click on them, the cursor jumps to that tag. I receive that in newsletters. >> >> When clicking on such an internal link just now, TB! simply ignored it. The >> newsletter is attached. >> >> Confirmations? > Confirmed The bat! 9.4 32bit > Please report to Ritlabs bug tracker. Thanks. See https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2144 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Internal links in HTML message are not being followed
Hello Thomas, On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, at 09:02:19 [GMT +0700] (which was 04:02 where I live) Thomas wrote: > Some HTML messages have tags or internal links. So that if you > click on them, the cursor jumps to that tag. I receive that in newsletters. > > When clicking on such an internal link just now, TB! simply ignored it. The > newsletter is attached. > > Confirmations? Confirmed The bat! 9.4 32bit Please report to Ritlabs bug tracker. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 9.4 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 19043 ) pgpprIQK9uKNv.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work
Howdy! Вы писали 6.07.21 г., 4:54:13: > Hello George, > On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 12:15:50 +0300 GMT (05-Jul-21, 16:15 +0700 GMT), > George Salnik wrote: > > > Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an > HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works. > If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, > and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy > the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. > This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor. > Confirmations? > I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in > tool bar an in context menu is deactivated either. > Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2127 > > Still the same in 9.3.4.16. > Not fixed in 9.3.4.18 > Fixed in 9.3.4.22. > It not fixed in 9.4! > >>> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, >>> and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy >>> the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. > I do need the same now but in other way! If I stay on the row of text where > is formatted text is available I can't paste with SHIFT+CTRL+V with same > formatting of text in this row of text. I do need to use it notepad here as > gasket. > That incredible! > Using crtl-V: Netflix > Using shift-crtl-V: > https://www.netflix.com/browse > Using right-click / Paste: Netflix > Using right-click / Paste as Plain Text: > https://www.netflix.com/browse > Nothing is greyed out here, works as intended. Well, except that it adds a LF > before the text when pasting in plain text, but I consider that cosmetic. > You do not use a footer (sig) showing your TB! and Windows versions. It would > help if you did. > Using shift-crtl-V: Using this shift+ctrl+v is not work as needed! If you have any formatted text (with color, or bold, or some another size) with shift+ctrl+v you are paste to this part of text with parameters as you have of this formatted text (if you have blue word before then pasted text with shift+ctrl+v will be blue on v9-3-4 and early - it paste formatted like previous text in the message window, with v9-4 it goes to be pasted without formatting as previous text and needs to use notepad as gasket to have this normal behavior). win10 21h1 enterprise with all updates Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work
Hello George, On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 12:15:50 +0300 GMT (05-Jul-21, 16:15 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: >>>>> Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an >>>>> HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works. >>>>> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, >>>>> and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to >>>>> copy the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. >>>>> This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor. >>>>> Confirmations? >>>>> I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in >>>>> tool bar an in context menu is deactivated either. >>>>> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2127 >>>> Still the same in 9.3.4.16. >>> Not fixed in 9.3.4.18 >> Fixed in 9.3.4.22. > It not fixed in 9.4! > >>> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, >>>and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy >>>the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. > > I do need the same now but in other way! If I stay on the row of text where > is formatted text is available I can't paste with SHIFT+CTRL+V with same > formatting of text in this row of text. I do need to use it notepad here as > gasket. > That incredible! Using crtl-V: Netflix Using shift-crtl-V: https://www.netflix.com/browse Using right-click / Paste: Netflix Using right-click / Paste as Plain Text: https://www.netflix.com/browse Nothing is greyed out here, works as intended. Well, except that it adds a LF before the text when pasting in plain text, but I consider that cosmetic. You do not use a footer (sig) showing your TB! and Windows versions. It would help if you did. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI Can't save html from message
Howdy! Вы писали 5.07.21 г., 12:28:21: > On Monday, July 5, 2021, 10:10:36, George Salnik wrote: >> In 9.3 and early I can save HTML from message (any HTML messages have >> message.HTML in the attached files). Right now I can't! Attached files panel >> don't shows! > Preferences → Viewer/Editor → Show HTML-related parts Wow!~ thank you! That's what I need to return! Dear TB! creators - please not off this thing when do updates from early versions. Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI Can't save html from message
On Monday, July 5, 2021, 10:10:36, George Salnik wrote: > In 9.3 and early I can save HTML from message (any HTML messages have > message.HTML in the attached files). Right now I can't! Attached files panel > don't shows! Preferences → Viewer/Editor → Show HTML-related parts -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > What the gods get away with, the cows don't. -- The Aquinas Axiom TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work
Howdy! Вы писали 25.06.21 г., 6:30:33: > Hello Thomas, > On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 08:53:34 +0700 GMT (21-Jun-21, 8:53 +0700 GMT), > Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Hello Thomas, >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:09:46 +0700 GMT (12-Jun-21, 10:09 +0700 GMT), >> Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>> Hello Thomas, >>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:20:32 +0700 GMT (12-Jun-21, 9:20 +0700 GMT), >>> Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>>> Hello mse, >>>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:42:48 + GMT (11-Jun-21, 23:42 +0700 GMT), >>>> mse wrote: >>>> Hello Thomas, >>>> Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an >>>> HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works. >>>> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, >>>> and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy >>>> the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. >>>> This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor. >>>> Confirmations? >>>> I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in >>>> tool bar an in context menu is deactivated either. >>>> Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2127 >>> Still the same in 9.3.4.16. >>> >> Not fixed in 9.3.4.18 > Fixed in 9.3.4.22. It not fixed in 9.4! >> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, >>and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy >>the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. I do need the same now but in other way! If I stay on the row of text where is formatted text is available I can't paste with SHIFT+CTRL+V with same formatting of text in this row of text. I do need to use it notepad here as gasket. That incredible! Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI Can't save html from message
I do find that can do right click and "save as" html. But! Please return "message.html" in the attached files panel! I do have reflex to just drag&drop message.HTML to total commander window if needs to store HTML attach - 1 second. Now it needs to walk through folders before saving. This waste my time to 30 seconds. Monday, July 5, 2021, 11:10:36 AM, you wrote: > Howdy! > Вы писали 2.07.21 г., 16:40:51: >> Hello All, >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-4.msi > In 9.3 and early I can save HTML from message (any HTML messages have > message.HTML in the attached files). Right now I can't! Attached files panel > don't shows! > Best Regards, George Salnik > RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator -- С ув. Георгий Сальник, Директор ООО "Белрус", Дистрибьютор Avast и AVG все адреса.пароли.явки на georgiy.tel 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI Can't save html from message
Howdy! Вы писали 2.07.21 г., 16:40:51: > Hello All, > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-4.msi In 9.3 and early I can save HTML from message (any HTML messages have message.HTML in the attached files). Right now I can't! Attached files panel don't shows! Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 National characters when forwarding HTML messages
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 17:56:42 +0700 GMT (28-Jun-21, 17:56 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:30:05 +0200 GMT (28-Jun-21, 17:30 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >> I noticed two problems (though I don't think they're new in this version, >> it's just that I only noticed now): >> - when I forward HTML messages in one specific account, national characters >> get mangled (eg. š becomes ĹĄ). I have no idea why – if I move the message >> to a different account and forward it from there, the national characters >> remain unchanged > Confirmed. I have also noticed this for a few beta (alpha) versions with > German umlauts. Still present in 9.4. Do you want to create a bug report or should I? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [9.3.4.26 and 9.4 msi] HTML Inline replies
Hello TBBETA, On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:30:17 +0700 GMT (02-Jul-21, 9:30 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I have a problem with inline replies to HTML messages. I only noticed this > now, because in business, we usually reply on top. > Take an HTML message with several paragraphs. > > 1.) Place the cursor after one paragraph and hit . The cursor is at > the right point, the green line is disrupted, but the screen is on the top of > the email, not where the cursor is. I think it is where the %cursor macro in > the reply template was. This is a cosmetic bug. > > 2.) Place the cursor now after another paragraph and hit . In 50% of > the cases it works fine, in the other 50% the cursor is not under the reply > to the former paragraph. I cannot find out when this happens, maybe someone > else can try. I played with this second-paragraph-reply problem with the same > email and got different results. This is a more serious bug. When I tried to replicated by replying to this message which I am replying to, everything worked as expected. However, I just encountered the cursor jumping when inline-replying again. I will send it to Stef for analysis. I have opened a bug report, as I think this should be fixed before the release: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 — Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.26 HTML Inline replies
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 21:30:11 +0300 GMT (02-Jul-21, 1:30 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.3.4.26 is available for testing > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.26-x64.7z I have a problem with inline replies to HTML messages. I only noticed this now, because in business, we usually reply on top. Take an HTML message with several paragraphs. 1.) Place the cursor after one paragraph and hit . The cursor is at the right point, the green line is disrupted, but the screen is on the top of the email, not where the cursor is. I think it is where the %cursor macro in the reply template was. This is a cosmetic bug. 2.) Place the cursor now after another paragraph and hit . In 50% of the cases it works fine, in the other 50% the cursor is not under the reply to the former paragraph. I cannot find out when this happens, maybe someone else can try. I played with this second-paragraph-reply problem with the same email and got different results. This is a more serious bug. Can anybody confirm? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.4.26 Beta (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font change in HTML emails
Hello TBBEA, On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 07:22:35 +0700 GMT (14-Feb-21, 7:22 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just about anything else. If you need a monospaced font that's available (almost) everywhere, use Lucida Console or Consolas - neither have the problem with thinness on high-DPI displays that Courier New has. The problem is not the font, the problem is your display. Anyway, I am using Lucida Console now. The problem of this font is with my eyes - I don't like it. Going back to Courier New. ;-) Change of font in the middle of the email is back: Changing from Calibri 11 (that was the font of the email I was replying to) to Courier New 10 (my own standard) from one paragraph to another without reason. It happens only sometimes and I haven't found a pattern yt. It does not look good in business emails. Confirmations? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.4.24 Beta (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 HTML editor: Highlighting abd hitting CrLf will not delete text
Hello Sergey, On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:36:58 +0300 GMT (30-Jun-21, 3:36 +0700 GMT), Sergey Chubchenko wrote: >> Version 9.3.4.24 BETA is available > Also if you select any text in HTML editor and press "Enter" - this text will > not be deleted with CrLf to next line. > Confirmed. Kindly open a bug report. I also just noted another bug: After I finished this reply, I want to add something before the word "Also" and placed the cursor there. When starting to ty[e. the cursor jumped to before all the quoted text. A recurrance of the "jumping cursor syndrom". -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.4.24 Beta (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 Highlighting links in HTML messages
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 16:42:29 +0300 GMT (27-Jun-21, 20:42 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.3.4.24 BETA is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.24-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [+] Automatically highlight links in HTML messages Confirm fixed! Thank you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.4.24 Beta (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML editor tab misbehaviour
Hello mse, On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:39:56 + GMT (24-Jun-21, 23:39 +0700 GMT), mse wrote: > Hello Thomas, TF>> Hello Gwen, TF>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:54:30 +0200 GMT (18-Jun-21, 16:54 +0700 GMT), TF>> Gwen wrote: Confirmations? >>> Yes, please report to Ritlabs bug tracker and leave link here. TF>> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2131 > Confirmed for 9.3.4.20. Please confirm fixed in 9.3.4.22 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.4.22 Beta (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.3.4.22: Cut and Copy activation state in HTML editor
Hello all, is anyone else seeing this behavior? (default editor is plain text): Select a text mail. Reply to it, press Ctrl + 2 to switch to HTML editor, double click on a word in mail body: In tool bar, the icons Cut and Copy are deactivated. (Ctrl+X and Ctrl + C work.) Select a HTML mail. Reply to it, In tool bar, the icons Cut and Copy are activated, even when nothing is selected. Same goes for the entries in menu bar. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! Version 9.3.4.22 Beta (32-bit) Pro on Windows 10 (Build 19043) (64-bit) without OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML viewer: Some URLs not clickable and not highlighted
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:10:55 +0300 GMT (25-Jun-21, 13:10 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> Bug seems to be still present in 9.3.4.22. Kindly keep in mind that the >> recipient of an email has no influence on whether the sender's email client >> tags the link correctly; he only knows that he cannot click on it. He can >> click on it in the plaintext viewer, so there you know a way to make TB! >> recognise an URL. >> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2137 > I guess, it's not a bug in .22, it's the links were created without the HREF > attribute in previous versions (due to a bug which was fixed). Can you > forward some examples to me or attach some .EML s to the bug report please? Sent by PM. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.4.22 Beta (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML viewer: Some URLs not clickable and not highlighted
Hello Thomas, > Bug seems to be still present in 9.3.4.22. Kindly keep in mind that the > recipient of an email has no influence on whether the sender's email client > tags the link correctly; he only knows that he cannot click on it. He can > click on it in the plaintext viewer, so there you know a way to make TB! > recognise an URL. > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2137 I guess, it's not a bug in .22, it's the links were created without the HREF attribute in previous versions (due to a bug which was fixed). Can you forward some examples to me or attach some .EML s to the bug report please? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML viewer: Some URLs not clickable and not highlighted
Hello Thomas,
On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:11:36 +0700 GMT (18-Jun-21, 18:11 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello Alexander,
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:40:08 +0300 GMT (18-Jun-21, 12:40 +0700 GMT),
> Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote:
>> Check the source of the hyperlink ("Specials\View source"), it should be
>> tagged as "href".
> I see gibberish in one mail, in the other I see the HTML code. Anyway, I am
> glad to know that you have already identified the bug in the HTML viewer.
> You do know that I cannot instruct the senders of emails how to program their
> HTML editor, right? So TB!'s HTML viewer must recognise the URLs, very much
> like the plaintext viewer does.
> Since you have already confirmed the bug, do I still need to send a bugreport
> to the bugtracker?
Bug seems to be still present in 9.3.4.22. Kindly keep in mind that the
recipient of an email has no influence on whether the sender's email client
tags the link correctly; he only knows that he cannot click on it. He can click
on it in the plaintext viewer, so there you know a way to make TB! recognise an
URL.
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2137
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
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