Re[4]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
6/23/2006 5:26 AM On 6/22/2006 Goncalo Farias wrote: GF I wouldn't take Outpost off so fast. Outpost had problems with TB in the GF past: GF http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/history.php GF - Outpost Firewall Pro 2.7 (build 485/412). Release date: May 31, 2005 An issue more than a year old that has _no_ relationship to Mary's problem. -- Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
I wouldn't take Outpost off so fast. Outpost had problems with TB in the past: And I'm not using it anyway. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Today's Stock Market News: Weights were up in heavy trading. pgpViJxPPqAkH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GF I wouldn't take Outpost off so fast. Outpost had problems with TB in the GF past: GF http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/history.php GF - Outpost Firewall Pro 2.7 (build 485/412). Release date: May 31, 2005 PVN An issue more than a year old that has _no_ relationship to Mary's problem. I wasn't saying that it had anything to do with Mary's problem but that they had a soft conflict in the past and it could happen again. I wouldn't take it off just like that without testing. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Why am I still up? I should be ASLEEP! Just one more... Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Goncalo! On Friday, June 23, 2006, 10:04 AM, you wrote: GF http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/history.php GF - Outpost Firewall Pro 2.7 (build 485/412). Release date: May 31, 2005 PVN An issue more than a year old that has _no_ relationship to PVN Mary's problem. I wasn't saying that it had anything to do with Mary's problem but that they had a soft conflict in the past and it could happen again. I wouldn't take it off just like that without testing. It's easy to disable it. And that's what I plan to do, and re-test, but I need a little time for that. I'll report back here what happens, after I do the test. However, I don't really expect the culprit to be Outpost, since Stuart Hemming isn't using Outpost and he partially has the same problems with v. 3.81.04 that I do. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Mary--also Goncalo, Paul, Stuart, and others interested! On Friday, June 23, 2006, 10:14 AM, you wrote: I wasn't saying that it had anything to do with Mary's problem but that they had a soft conflict in the past and it could happen again. I wouldn't take it off just like that without testing. It's easy to disable it [Outpost]. And that's what I plan to do, and re-test, but I need a little time for that. I'll report back here what happens, after I do the test. Made no difference. Also, disabling my AV app, NOD32 made no difference. Will have to look further to pin this problem down. Maybe it will simply get fixed serendipitously in the next beta. she said hopefully -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello WL! On Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 9:38 PM, you wrote: It seems like we keep running into the same problems :) Yes. Don't know whether to put a :( or a :) here. :) Although I guess I lucked out on this issue... Indeed. I think the only other person experiencing this latest is Stuart Hemming, and even he hasn't had the full severity of it that I have. I will just keep experimenting with various settings, to see if I can nail the culprit down. At first I thought maybe my dpi setting might be at fault (I have it at 120, which XP Settings/Advanced describes as Large). But setting it back to Normal had no effect on this. I also did a vigorous weeding out of Temp folders and old, now-unused Apps, gaining thereby 5 GB of HD free space, raising that to 63%, in case there were any file-management issues. RAM on this machine is 512 MB. Task Manager says that TB! is using 103,408 kb of memory, that I am running 49 processes, that the Commit Charge is 317 MB and that CPU usage is ranging between 0% and 16%, usually running up and down between 0% and 4%. Although I did see one spike to 49% while I began collecting these figures, just now. Well, all this description of conditions on my machine may be verging toward OT, even though it's in aid of trying to run down info for my issue with v. 3.81.04. But the list is slow right now, and it may be that the figures will let you or another beta tester come up with an idea of something else I can test to pin down what's happening for me with v. 3.81.04. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
I will just keep experimenting with various settings, to see if I can nail the culprit down. At first I thought maybe my dpi setting might be at fault (I have it at 120, which XP Settings/Advanced describes as Large). Mine's normally on 'normal' I also did a vigorous weeding out of Temp folders and old, now-unused Apps, gaining thereby 5 GB of HD free space, raising that to 63%, in case there were any file-management issues. Running with plenty of free-disc here RAM on this machine is 512 MB. And I've got 1Gb so it's prolly not that either. FWIW I'm running with OTFE switched on. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Error: Press any key except. no, No, NO, NOT THAT ONE! pgpRtpeHL2lsH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, June 22, 2006, 10:26 AM, you wrote: I will just keep experimenting with various settings, to see if I can nail the culprit down. At first I thought maybe my dpi setting might be at fault (I have it at 120, which XP Settings/Advanced describes as Large). Mine's normally on 'normal' Ruling that out. I also did a vigorous weeding out of Temp folders and old, now-unused Apps, gaining thereby 5 GB of HD free space, raising that to 63%, in case there were any file-management issues. Running with plenty of free-disc here Yes, I thought so. RAM on this machine is 512 MB. And I've got 1Gb so it's prolly not that either. No. Sort of discouraging, but good to get things ruled out. FWIW I'm running with OTFE switched on. I'm running Pro, but without OTFE switched on. It's probably not that, either, as I know there are a few other beta testers who run Pro but no OTFE. I'm wondering if my AV (NOD32) is playing into the mix. Although I have it set not to check e-mail, but only to check files when I open them. Or my firewall, Outpost. I think I could safely disable either of these, temporarily, since I'm behind a router--and additionally, never visit websites that I'm unfamiliar with, unless vouched for by someone I've learned to trust, from experience, or download mail from unknown addresses, or click on attachments I didn't know to expect ahead of time. Ah, and I have SpywareBlaster running. But I already disabled it, earlier, to test if it might be the culprit. All goes well with v. 3.80.06, which you can see I am running at the moment. Thanks for writing, Stuart. And thanks for the support note you put at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
6/22/2006 12:10 PM Hi Mary, On 6/22/2006 Mary Bull wrote: MB I'm wondering if my AV (NOD32) is playing into the mix. Although I MB have it set not to check e-mail, but only to check files when I open MB them. MB Or my firewall, Outpost. I can't speak for NOD32 but others are using it without your symptoms. I do not believe it is Outpost as I have had intimate experience with it for several years. I suspect there is something else in your 49 processes that is the culprit. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Paul! On Thursday, June 22, 2006, 11:13 AM, you wrote: MB I'm wondering if my AV (NOD32) is playing into the mix. Although I MB have it set not to check e-mail, but only to check files when I open MB them. MB Or my firewall, Outpost. I can't speak for NOD32 but others are using it without your symptoms. I do not believe it is Outpost as I have had intimate experience with it for several years. I suspect there is something else in your 49 processes that is the culprit. Thanks. I'll keep looking! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 22-Jun-2006 at 18:19 you (Mary Bull) wrote: I suspect there is something else in your 49 processes that is the culprit. Thanks. I'll keep looking! :) Look for a process called thebat.exe... that might be the one! SCNR ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Politicians and diapers have one thing in common: They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason. Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, June 22, 2006, 12:30 PM, you wrote: I suspect there is something else in your 49 processes that is the culprit. Thanks. I'll keep looking! :) Look for a process called thebat.exe... that might be the one! SCNR ;-) :rofl2: Well, I've got them pared down to 40, now, using TDS-3 as my helper. But--The Bat! v. 3.81.04 is still messing up for me. Fortunately, its sibling, v. 3.80.06, is still working perfectly. I'm just trying to find out in what way I'm mistreating v. 3.81.04, that it should retaliate against me so meanly. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB I'm wondering if my AV (NOD32) is playing into the mix. Although I MB have it set not to check e-mail, but only to check files when I open MB them. MB Or my firewall, Outpost. PVN I can't speak for NOD32 but others are using it without your symptoms. PVN I do not believe it is Outpost as I have had intimate experience with PVN it for several years. I wouldn't take Outpost off so fast. Outpost had problems with TB in the past: http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/history.php - Outpost Firewall Pro 2.7 (build 485/412). Release date: May 31, 2005 -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias they don't really Like warm beer - they got Lucas fridge Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
On 6/19/06, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Stuart! On Monday, June 19, 2006, 2:43 AM, you wrote: Clearly it's something to do with the start up code as restarting TB! with the ticker enable prevents the program from running correctly, but starting it /after/ the program is running leaves it all running OK. Stuart, thank you for continuing to test this issue. I changed to v. 3.81.04 just now to see what happened. First, in v. 3.80.06 I configured the Mail Ticker to Hide. Then I switched the .exe file to v. 3.81.04, and it launched and ran just fine, as we've already established. Then with v. 3.81.04 running, I changed Hide to Always in Options/Preferences/Messages/Mail Ticker. As soon as I clicked OK, the Mail Ticker appeared--but flashing so rapidly as to seem to be flickering. So this reminded of a similar problem I had way earlier... What is the opacity of the mail ticker set to? Does anything change if it is set completely opaque? -- WL Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Does anything change if it is set completely opaque? It doesn't here, no. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them. pgpPQGedwyojp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello WL! On Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 3:32 AM, you wrote: As soon as I clicked OK, the Mail Ticker appeared--but flashing so rapidly as to seem to be flickering. So this reminded of a similar problem I had way earlier... What is the opacity of the mail ticker set to? Does anything change if it is set completely opaque? It is set to completely opaque. In your earlier problem, did changing the opacity stop the flicker? (Note also, that my chief problem is the partially painted window at launch, plus the unpainting of the window if I launch with the Mail Ticker set to Hide and then change it to Always, and then operate The Bat! with the Mail Ticker flickering for a short while. Did you ever experience this, WL?) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello, Mary. It seems like we keep running into the same problems :) Although I guess I lucked out on this issue... On 6/21/06, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 3:32 AM, you wrote: As soon as I clicked OK, the Mail Ticker appeared--but flashing so rapidly as to seem to be flickering. So this reminded of a similar problem I had way earlier... What is the opacity of the mail ticker set to? Does anything change if it is set completely opaque? It is set to completely opaque. In your earlier problem, did changing the opacity stop the flicker? The problem I had is when I run something in full screen mode with a dimension change (ie, play starcraft...). When I received an email, the translucent ticker would make the display go nuts in an orgy of flickering. Making the ticker opaque would stop the flicker. I chalked this up to bad interactions due to to crappy video card and driver that came with the laptop. And poor use of company resources, I suppose :p (Note also, that my chief problem is the partially painted window at launch, plus the unpainting of the window if I launch with the Mail Ticker set to Hide and then change it to Always, and then operate The Bat! with the Mail Ticker flickering for a short while. Did you ever experience this, WL?) I don't think I've had this issue. But, the shortcut that I use to start TB! has the /minimize /nologo parameters, so I wouldn't notice a lingering splash screen. I haven't seen the unpainting thing, either. -- WL Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Thanks a mil! Here's the link: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 I would if I could but BT seems to be down; I'm just getting database errors. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Every Tuesday my ex-wife has lessons in evil with Satan. I don't know how much she charges him though pgpzeRGfcYrme.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Stuart! On Tuesday, June 20, 2006, 3:55 AM, you wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 I would if I could but BT seems to be down; I'm just getting database errors. Seems to be back up now. But a quiet day on TBBETA. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
As per Mary's experience Stuart - do TB work for you if you disable the ticker? Yes, if I disable the ticker it seems to work fine. However, the loss of the ticker is a greater inconvenience than the loss of the 'fixes' in this latest beta so I'm going to go back. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell your friends over and over again that you love them. pgpd5O1twCdwZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
As per Mary's experience Stuart - do TB work for you if you disable the ticker? Looking to isolate the pattern for you... Now that's odd! I've just enable the ticker (I had to switch it off in the old version as Mary suggested) and it appears to work. Hmm. I'm going to shut TB! down and restart it and see what happens ... -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong. pgpsIFAfWfcXr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Clearly it's something to do with the start up code as restarting TB! with the ticker enable prevents the program from running correctly, but starting it /after/ the program is running leaves it all running OK. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. My wife and I always hold hands; if I let go she shops. pgptet5Sj3moM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Stuart! On Monday, June 19, 2006, 2:43 AM, you wrote: Clearly it's something to do with the start up code as restarting TB! with the ticker enable prevents the program from running correctly, but starting it /after/ the program is running leaves it all running OK. Stuart, thank you for continuing to test this issue. I changed to v. 3.81.04 just now to see what happened. First, in v. 3.80.06 I configured the Mail Ticker to Hide. Then I switched the .exe file to v. 3.81.04, and it launched and ran just fine, as we've already established. Then with v. 3.81.04 running, I changed Hide to Always in Options/Preferences/Messages/Mail Ticker. As soon as I clicked OK, the Mail Ticker appeared--but flashing so rapidly as to seem to be flickering. So, I can't confirm that TB! will run okay--at least so far as using the Mail Ticker--for me in v. 3.81.04. Have reverted once more to v. 3.80.06. I'm thinking of putting a BT report on this issue. If I do, will you write a supporting note? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Then with v. 3.81.04 running, I changed Hide to Always in Options/Preferences/Messages/Mail Ticker. As soon as I clicked OK, the Mail Ticker appeared--but flashing so rapidly as to seem to be flickering. This is where things differ; it worked OK for me that this point it was after restatrting TB! that the flickering started again. If I do, will you write a supporting note? Sure. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Found on a CV: You will want me to be Head Honcho in no time. pgpTo9VoMdrQO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Stuart! On Monday, June 19, 2006, 10:21 AM, you wrote: As soon as I clicked OK, the Mail Ticker appeared--but flashing so rapidly as to seem to be flickering. This is where things differ; it worked OK for me that this point it was after restatrting TB! that the flickering started again. Something local to my machine and/or settings, I'm sure. If I do, will you write a supporting note? Sure. Thanks a mil! Here's the link: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5917 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Mary, On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MB and accidentally deleted my sig in the editor window. No, it's there but about 30 lines further down the message page! ;-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.04 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hi Mary Bull, Wednesday, June 14, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : Now the question is, why am I having this problem and nobody else? I solely see the mail ticker flashing if the java of Gogle Earth is interfering with it. It is fine again when Google is off. Can it be that you have an app running that has java on? Just an idea. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
I cannot get either 3.81.04 or 3.81.03 to launch properly. When I click on my TB! shortcut on the Desktop, the result is a lingering splash screen, a TB! main window incompletely painted, and a flickering Mail Ticker. And there things stick. I am using TB! Pro, but no OTFE, on Windows XP SP2. I'm using XPProSP2 with TB OTFE enabled. TIA -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. pgpdyzIzFJBXX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
I've just tried the exe in Simon's zip and got the same result as with the original from the RITLabs site; flashing ticker, persistent splash screen and a main screen that doesn't draw properly. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by , MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. You need only two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the duct tape. pgpgoJsiiEf7s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Stuart! On Friday, June 16, 2006, 5:11 AM, you wrote: I've just tried the exe in Simon's zip and got the same result as with the original from the RITLabs site; flashing ticker, persistent splash screen and a main screen that doesn't draw properly. Ah, confirmation! Although I hate it that you are a fellow sufferer. Hide the MailTicker--you may have to revert to v. 3.80.06 to accomplish that--and TB! v. 3.81.04 launches, displays, and functions very well. However, I found that I missed the convenience of the MailTicker too much. So I have reverted to v. 3.80.06. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Richard! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 4:06 PM, you wrote: MB and accidentally deleted my sig in the editor window. No, it's there but about 30 lines further down the message page! ;-) Ah, foolish me! :rofl2: But it's nice to have the TBBETA pipeline flowing again. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 3:16 PM, you wrote: Now the question is, why am I having this problem and nobody else? I solely see the mail ticker flashing if the java of Gogle Earth is interfering with it. It is fine again when Google is off. Can it be that you have an app running that has java on? Just an idea. The only app I have running is The Bat! But thanks for the further information and suggestion. P.S.: Reverted to v. 3.80.06, because I missed the MailTicker too much when running v. 3.81.04. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Mary, On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MB But it's nice to have the TBBETA pipeline flowing again. Flooding here at the moment ;-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.04 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
6/14/2006 4:33 PM Hi Mary, On 6/14/2006 Mary Bull wrote: MB Then why would v. 3.80.06 not be having the same launch problem? MB I have not done anything to the video driver. Could it have tweaked MB itself? MB Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, Paul, and I'll check it out. I'm not saying you did something to your video drivers to cause the problem. There may be code changes in the latest beta that give the symptoms. Try hiding the Mail Ticker. I have seen conflicts with it on various systems. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hi Mary Bull, Sunday, June 18, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : P.S.: Reverted to v. 3.80.06, because I missed the MailTicker too much when running v. 3.81.04. I like the mail ticker also, it is a true companion through the shallowness of my desktop. Only when running Google Earth it is flickering several times a second. Let us see what the further versions bring :) -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Goncalo! On Saturday, June 17, 2006, 8:34 PM, you wrote: IsuggestyougrabsomethinglikeBitDefender Free (http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Main/view/Download-Free-Products.html#) and run a virus check, just in case. Behaving well for half an hour ain't normal. Thanks. I'll try after a bit with my resident NOD32. But all does seem to be well when I'm running v. 3.80.06 with the MailTicker enabled. Or running v. 3.81.04 with the MailTicker disabled by configuring it to Hide. One other person has now confirmed that he has the same problems with v. 3.81.04 that I do. So it seems more likely that something in the RitLabs code for v. 3.81.04 is the problem. I'll report back, though, if a scan for viruses turns up anything. Thanks again for the suggestion. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB Unfortunately, although TB! v. 3.81.04 behaved well for maybe half an MB hour in the exe I got from your .zip, it became unstable--first sign, MB the MailTicker started flickering, and then the TB! main window MB partially unpainted itself. MB Really weird. So I'm running TB! 3.80.06, at present, which you can MB tell also from my sig. IsuggestyougrabsomethinglikeBitDefender Free (http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Main/view/Download-Free-Products.html#) and run a virus check, just in case. Behaving well for half an hour ain't normal. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Carpe Dentiem ... Seize the teeth! Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 3:04 PM, you wrote: What happens if you disable the Mailticker and then launch? Launched in a flash and is displaying perfectly! So, as long as I configure the MailTicker to Hide, I can run v. 3,80.04. Sorry for the sloppy typing. Meant 3.81.04, of course. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 4:21 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb38104.rar The only fix is correct start with OTFE enabled. I cannot get either 3.81.04 or 3.81.03 to launch properly. When I click on my TB! shortcut on the Desktop, the result is a lingering splash screen, a TB! main window incompletely painted, and a flickering Mail Ticker. And there things stick. I am able to close TB! then, but nothing else functions properly. Worse, once this happens, when I attempt to install v. 3.80.06 over the beta, using either Modify or Repair, and the installation has apparently been successful, still the same incomplete launch happens. I have fixed it with a Windows System Restore. At first I thought I might have a faulty download. The size given in Properties for 3.81.04rar is 3.83 MB and for 3.81.03rar is 3.81 MB. It doesn't seem as if I would get three bad downloads in a row (2 for v. 03, and today 1 for .04). I am using TB! Pro, but no OTFE, on Windows XP SP2. Any ideas about what could be going wrong for me? TIA -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hi Mary, In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 3:08:55 PM, you wrote: At first I thought I might have a faulty download. The size given in Properties for 3.81.04rar is 3.83 MB and for 3.81.03rar is 3.81 MB. It doesn't seem as if I would get three bad downloads in a row (2 for v. 03, and today 1 for .04). I am using TB! Pro, but no OTFE, on Windows XP SP2. Any ideas about what could be going wrong for me? Just in case you are getting some form of corruption, I've put the version of .04 I've installed on my website Mary, here -: http://www.cg-online.me.uk/1/38104.zip -- Regards, Simon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: The Bat! 3.81.04 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 CPU:Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz, 596 RAM:1014 MB __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 9:32 AM, you wrote: At first I thought I might have a faulty download. ... I am using TB! Pro, but no OTFE, on Windows XP SP2. Any ideas about what could be going wrong for me? Just in case you are getting some form of corruption, I've put the version of .04 I've installed on my website Mary, here -: http://www.cg-online.me.uk/1/38104.zip Thanks a million! I'm off to get it, and I'll report back to you here on what happens. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 9:32 AM, you wrote: Just in case you are getting some form of corruption, I've put the version of .04 I've installed on my website Mary, here -: http://www.cg-online.me.uk/1/38104.zip Up and running, as you can see from my sig. Thanks a million! I had been using WINRAR to unpack TB!'s rar packages, using the command Extract to the specified folder. Never a problem until now. But when I asked WINRAR to do that with your .zip, it would say it had done it, but I still ended up with v. 3.80.6. So I selected another utility that Windows XP offered me to uncompress .zip files and put the resultant TB! exe on my Desktop. I then renamed the v. 3.80.6 exe to old 3.80.6 exe and dragged the extracted 3.81.04 into the The Bat! folder. Launched, and so far now working perfectly. I'm very grateful to you, as working with your .zip meant that I found out that my copy of WINRAR is not working properly. It's the last thing I would have otherwise suspected. Now I have to figure out what to do about that. :( But at least I can now proceed with testing TB! beta v. 3.81.04. Query: I guess I should delete the renamed old3.80.6 file from my TB! folder now, to prevent problems? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hi Mary, Wednesday, June 14, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : Now I have to figure out what to do about that. :( Wouldn't this be the right time to give the Winrar beta a try? http://www.rarlabs.com/download.htm Or maybe only to get a fresh copy of a stable version. As you know, all updates will be free even if they change the major version number. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 12:30 PM, you wrote: Now I have to figure out what to do about that. :( Wouldn't this be the right time to give the Winrar beta a try? http://www.rarlabs.com/download.htm Or maybe only to get a fresh copy of a stable version. As you know, all updates will be free even if they change the major version number. Thanks for the link, Charlene. I'll let you know how I get along. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 12:30 PM, you wrote: Now I have to figure out what to do about that. :( Wouldn't this be the right time to give the Winrar beta a try? http://www.rarlabs.com/download.htm Done. But WinRar may not after all be the whole culprit in my latest TB! beta problems. Before I even saw your suggestion, and while running TB! beta v. 3.81.04 that I had installed from Simon's .zip file, the MailTicker began to flicker and TB!'s main window started to become unpainted in about half the window. So I then closed TB!, renamed the 3.81.04 exe file to old and took old out of the name of the 3.80.06 exe file, then relaunched TB! Result, a perfectly stable 3.80.06 that launched perfectly. As a test for my new beta WinRar program, I completely deleted both TB! exe files, the renamed and the functioning 3.80.06. Then I did a fresh download of TB! 3.81.04 from the TB! rar link that 9Val sent. Before doing that, I sent the previous rar to the Recycle Bin, so there would be no possibility of errors through an overwrite in the Temp folder. I asked WinRar to extract to The Bat! And it showed the same launch problems as ever. My problem with installing and launching beta v. 3.81.04 is still not solved. But I see that there are enough beta testers doing a good job of testing it without my help. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 1:41 PM, you wrote: MB I had been using WINRAR to unpack TB!'s rar packages, MB using the command Extract to the specified folder. MB Never a problem until now. How weird! That is exactly how I do things this end too. :) Which version of Winrar do you have? I did have 3.20, but this afternoon I downloaded and installed beta 3.60.4.0. And it does unpack your.zip okay, now. So there was definitely something corrupted in my old WinRar folder. Unfortunately, although TB! v. 3.81.04 behaved well for maybe half an hour in the exe I got from your .zip, it became unstable--first sign, the MailTicker started flickering, and then the TB! main window partially unpainted itself. Really weird. So I'm running TB! 3.80.06, at present, which you can tell also from my sig. I'm glad the re-packing to a .zip worked; I did think it was worth presenting a different archive format. At least you can access a .zip natively in WindowsXP It was certainly worth it to me!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Dear Mary, Wednesday, June 14, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : Done. But WinRar may not after all be the whole culprit in my latest TB! beta problems. Really seems so :( Before I even saw your suggestion, and while running TB! beta v. 3.81.04 that I had installed from Simon's .zip file, the MailTicker began to flicker and TB!'s main window started to become unpainted in about half the window. This I read and the following also. So I then closed TB!, renamed the 3.81.04 exe file to old and took old out of the name of the 3.80.06 exe file, then relaunched TB! Result, a perfectly stable 3.80.06 that launched perfectly. So far so good :) As a test for my new beta WinRar program, I completely deleted both TB! exe files, the renamed and the functioning 3.80.06. Betatesting is demanding sometimes ;) -it takes many steps to verify an idea or even falsifying it. This I say from own experience. Then I did a fresh download of TB! 3.81.04 from the TB! rar link that 9Val sent. Before doing that, I sent the previous rar to the Recycle Bin, so there would be no possibility of errors through an overwrite in the Temp folder. I asked WinRar to extract to The Bat! And it showed the same launch problems as ever. I fear Rit guys won't love to hear this, but I really think it looks as if this version of TB is slightly under suspicion. I once had a early 3x version that constantly refused to start, it took more than two months to get it going. To my luck I always had a stable version to fall back. With 9Val's help I succeeded at last and I still am thankful for his help. My problem with installing and launching beta v. 3.81.04 is still not solved. Maybe he can help you the same way he helped me. I don't remember how it worked out or what the steps were we had to take. But I see that there are enough beta testers doing a good job of testing it without my help. I can't fully subscribe to that point ;) I really hope that some clever brain will figure out what to do. The only occasions I see half painted windows or improperly drawn ones is when my system's file system is strained to the max (like copying huge files while raring other ones in between). -- Best regards, Mary Either your place or mine the delimiter is broken. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 1:46 PM, you wrote: Is your browser definitely grabbing a entirely new copy of the rar file? I believe Opera's cache was empty when I did the earlier downloads using Opera. Unless something is wrong with Opera's display of the Cache folder. I have now made a download using Mozilla Firefox. I disabled SpywareBlaster before doing that. But, no joy, still. The installed 3.81.04 won't fully paint the window on launch, and it presents also a flickering MailTicker. Do you have any programs installed that check for spyware? I disabled SpywareBlaster before this latest download. TB! 3.80.06 runs perfectly. So there can't be any permanent change in the Registry from anything SpywareBlaster might have done to earlier downloads/installs? I am at my wit's end about this and inclined to give up and stick with TB! 3.80.06. (The testing on the new Smilie function intrigues me. I hope the AVs with it get fixed. I never got stable enough with .04 to click on that button.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 1:46 PM, you wrote: MB Then I did a fresh download of TB! 3.81.04 from the TB! MB rar link that 9Val sent. Before doing that, I sent the MB previous rar to the Recycle Bin, so there would be no MB possibility of errors through an overwrite in the Temp MB folder. This is only a thought as well Mary, but on occasion IE/Firefox will give you a duplicate copy of a download from their cache - I've been caught with this before. Good thought. Yes, I've been caught that way also, using Opera. So, although I have Opera set to clear the Cache on exit, I actually did a look in the Cache folder to be sure it was empty, before clicking the Download link. Is your browser definitely grabbing a entirely new copy of the rar file? I'm using Opera. So far as I can tell, yes. But, I'll delete my copy in Temp of the .04rar file and try a download using Mozilla Firefox. I've never downloaded from TB! with it, so it's not possible for an old download to be hanging around. I'll report back how I do with installing from that particular rar. Do you have any programs installed that check for spyware? In another thread it appears that some spyware softwares are incorrectly marking needed registry entries (the bat) as spyware and removing. If you have these softwares and they are fiddling with the registry when you run TB that may explain your dilemma? Ah, I do have SpywareBlaster running. I'll disable it before I try the download using Firefox. Just a thought :\ And also a good one! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
6/14/2006 3:33 PM Hi Mary, On 6/14/2006 Mary Bull wrote: MB TB! 3.80.06 runs perfectly. So there can't be any permanent change in MB the Registry from anything SpywareBlaster might have done to earlier MB downloads/installs? MB I am at my wit's end about this and inclined to give up and stick with MB TB! 3.80.06. MB (The testing on the new Smilie function intrigues me. I hope the AVs MB with it get fixed. I never got stable enough with .04 to click on that MB button.) It seems to me that you are experiencing conflicts with your video driver or the way you have tweaked it. It may be valuable to download and install the latest drivers for your video chip/card. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Paul! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 2:37 PM, you wrote: t seems to me that you are experiencing conflicts with your video driver or the way you have tweaked it. It may be valuable to download and install the latest drivers for your video chip/card. Then why would v. 3.80.06 not be having the same launch problem? I have not done anything to the video driver. Could it have tweaked itself? Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, Paul, and I'll check it out. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 2:39 PM, you wrote: MB But, no joy, still. The installed 3.81.04 won't fully MB paint the window on launch, and it presents also a MB flickering MailTicker. What happens if you disable the Mailticker and then launch? Okay! I'll try that!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Charlene! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 2:25 PM, you wrote: -- Best regards, Mary Either your place or mine the delimiter is broken. Sorry. I did a lot of revisions trying to express myself clearly to you, and accidentally deleted my sig in the editor window. So I did a copy and paste of the sig, and didn't double-check the trailing space before sending. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Incomplete Launch [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.04 is now available]
Hello Simon! On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, 2:39 PM, you wrote: MB But, no joy, still. The installed 3.81.04 won't fully MB paint the window on launch, and it presents also a MB flickering MailTicker. What happens if you disable the Mailticker and then launch? Launched in a flash and is displaying perfectly! So, as long as I configure the MailTicker to Hide, I can run v. 3,80.04. Now the question is, why am I having this problem and nobody else? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
