Re[3]: NAV2000 and TB!
Hello Vladimir, Saturday, September 02, 2000, 3:33:23 PM, you wrote: VM Hello Warren, VM Saturday, September 02, 2000, 10:23:05 PM, you wrote: VM Well NAV is known as very stupid anti-virus program which has very low VM possibilities for finding new (cloned) viruses. It's heruistic methods VM are bad. Same performace is with McAfee. Again I suggest AVP! Is AVP's website http://www.avp.ch/ ? or is it something else. -- Best regards, diggitymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Bat! Netscape
Hi fellow Bat! fans, Sorry if this has been covered before - how do I make the Bat! open if I click on a mailto address in a Netscape Web Page? No troubles In IE where you can set up the default mailer, etc., but in Netscape?? -- Best regards, John Phillips Sydney,Australia Sunday, 3 September 200017:55:19 (Eastern Australian Time) Bat! version 1.45 Windows 98 Build Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: %COOKIE
Hello Wednesday, August 30, 2000, 12:10:08 AM, you wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi John, MDP On 29 August 2000 at 09:18:24 GMT +1000 (which was 00:18 where I MDP live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject MDP of "%COOKIE": JP Having trouble with %COOKIE macro. Works ok in folder if I press JP F5 for new message, however if I reply to a message the tag always JP shows as Cannot open file "C:\My Documents\tags.txt". Happens in a JP few folders only; However this problem does not arise when I reply JP to Bat! mail. Queer.. JP I have the cookies in the template, and do not point to any text file, JP although in a previous Bat! life I must admit I did. JP Is this a known / unknown bug? Any fix? MDP I used to get this happening and it was because of a vestige of an old MDP template which was cutting in unintended. There is nothing for it but MDP to visit every folder and every address book entry to eliminate all MDP remaining references. MDP - -- MDP Cheers, MDP .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY MDP Computer Store: "Out for a quick byte" MDP MDP TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MDP Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured MDP Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! MDP iQA/AwUBOavEQDnkJKuSnc2gEQKzbQCgj0OuYInsgZ7oYxEe/7+GMBRWF1QAoIv7 MDP O3YaLWopDMmmU3ug5RU+oTmA MDP =zc25 MDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks for the tip - the template from the folder had only %COOKIE; the same address in the address book had also the file pointer. -- Regards John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, 3 September 200017:00:24 (Eastern Australian Time) Bat! version 1.45 Windows 98 Build At the half: Bears 16 - Tourists 0. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Arabic Characters (was CJK again)
Hello tracer, On 03 September 2000, you wrote and made these points on the subject of "CJK (again)": t secondly what do you mean by unreadable? wrong letters in Arabic, no t Arabic but other symbols? wrong direction? No Arabic, but other symbols! t As a first thing I would say your editing font likely is set to the t wrong one. try locating a monospaced one, ie all letters same width... t I know esthetically not that nice but try it. Thanks Tracer. I think the problem has much to do with my fonts. They are not monospaced. t Secondly I totally forgot what ascii numbers are used by Arabic but t I would be surprised if they used the same positions as abc. So t you may have to tell the Bat where every symbol is in those t translation tables... Guess I should also try to create a new Xlat table for the Arabic font, but the trouble is that I don't know how to do it. Is it a difficult process? Thanks. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: NAV2000 and TB!
Hello diggity, Sunday, September 03, 2000, 8:18:31 AM, you wrote: dfc Hello Vladimir, dfc Saturday, September 02, 2000, 3:33:23 PM, you wrote: VM Hello Warren, VM Saturday, September 02, 2000, 10:23:05 PM, you wrote: VM Well NAV is known as very stupid anti-virus program which has very low VM possibilities for finding new (cloned) viruses. It's heruistic methods VM are bad. Same performace is with McAfee. Again I suggest AVP! dfc Is AVP's website http://www.avp.ch/ ? or is it something else. FTP Servers === ftp://ftp.ontinet.com ftp://ftp.polbox.com.pl/library/!avp/ ftp://volftp.tin.it/pub2/avp ftp://ftp.avp.tm ftp://ftp.antivirus.com.au WWW-Sites = http://www.avp.ru http://www.avp.com http://www.avp.ch/ (Switzerland) http://www.usa.avp.ch/ (U.S. backup site) http://www.avp.it http://www.scandsecure.se http://www.ontinet.com/ http://www.polbox.com.pl/vacimex/ http://www.et.put.poznan.pl/~michal http://www.avpro.de http://www.fuhs.de http://www.avp-france.com http://www.datarescue.com http://www.avp.tm http://www.antivirus.com.au I think this list is enough for everybody. -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Accounts handling
Hello The Bat! lovers, One very short question: How can I move accounts up or down? Now they are all mixed! I wanna make some order, my accounts up, others down. -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: NAV2000 and TB!
Hello tracer, Sunday, September 03, 2000, 3:23:04 AM, you wrote: t Hello Vladimir Mincev, t On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 00:33:23 +0200 GMT your local time, t which was Sunday, September 03, 2000, 5:33:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, t Vladimir Mincev wrote: Well NAV is known as very stupid anti-virus program which has very low possibilities for finding new (cloned) viruses. It's heruistic methods are bad. Same performace is with McAfee. Again I suggest AVP! t same performance isnt surprising since Mcafee nicked part of the t Symantec code before they bought Dr Solomons and the Av part t wasnt the only sw Symantec found pieces of their code. Good to know how it was done! I hate monopolizing of big companies such as MicroSoft, Symantec... For example I *hate* that AtGuard was bought by Symantec. AtGuard was freeware, and now you must buy it as Norton Internet Security 2000 (NAV is implemented in it!). One more thing, it's size was 1.5 Mb, and now it is 43 Mb (NAV is 27 Mb + AtGurd is 1.5 Mb =lets say even 30 Mb, question: What happened with 13 Mb? Gone on make-up?). That is all for now... This is not one of the topics of this mailing list so I apologize to list moderators! -- Best regards, Vladimirmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NAV2000 and TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:03:27 +0200, Vladimir Mincev wrote: VM Good to know how it was done! I hate monopolizing of big companies VM such as MicroSoft, Symantec... For example I *hate* that AtGuard was VM bought by Symantec. AtGuard was freeware, and now you must buy it as VM Norton Internet Security 2000 (NAV is implemented in it!). One more VM thing, it's size was 1.5 Mb, and now it is 43 Mb (NAV is 27 Mb + VM AtGurd is 1.5 Mb =lets say even 30 Mb, question: What happened with VM 13 Mb? Gone on make-up?). That is all for now... This is not one of VM the topics of this mailing list so I apologize to list moderators! No need to apologize, but lets make this the last post on AVP, OK? Use TBOT for any further discussions on this. - -- - -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Faith is good, but scepticism is better. - Giuseppe Verdi " -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBObJc9/AXeSHuB5k3EQJJfgCg6KHOTg0OyxC9CGkh7z/YDzSqFaEAoN2K TayeFVztC/i5TL3nBq9xdENg =RjeK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Arabic Characters (was CJK again)
Hello Assad Toorab, On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:19:40 +0400 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, September 03, 2000, 7:19:40 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Assad Toorab wrote: Hello tracer, On 03 September 2000, you wrote and made these points on the subject of "CJK (again)": t secondly what do you mean by unreadable? wrong letters in Arabic, no t Arabic but other symbols? wrong direction? No Arabic, but other symbols! t As a first thing I would say your editing font likely is set to the t wrong one. try locating a monospaced one, ie all letters same width... t I know esthetically not that nice but try it. Thanks Tracer. I think the problem has much to do with my fonts. They are not monospaced. t Secondly I totally forgot what ascii numbers are used by Arabic but t I would be surprised if they used the same positions as abc. So t you may have to tell the Bat where every symbol is in those t translation tables... Guess I should also try to create a new Xlat table for the Arabic font, but the trouble is that I don't know how to do it. Is it a difficult process? Have a look with charactermap (ie under accesories / system tools ) and look what it shows with an English and what with an Arabic font. Essentially you have to look at the keyboard you use to see what lines up with what. Obviously the program or OS should take care of the different shapes of the letters depending where you type them. As said no idea if that would work in the Bat... Thanks. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
pgp key and smartcards
hi list is it possible to store the entire private key into a smartcard and use this card with the bat ? if not, this would be a nice feature for future versions, cause with this feature you can use the key on your computer on work without any privacy problems.. and by the way... is there a possibility to develop a kind of plugin for that problem ? i would be very pleased to get an answer regards sven -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Arabic Characters (was CJK again)
Hello Assad Toorab, I loaded arabic into my windows 2000 (wanted to do that anyway at some time). Try fixed system font. Some of the mono spaced fonts seem not to have all the characters. With keyboard switched to arabic , and remembering I havent got an Arabic keyboard, at least most of the keys seemed to type logically, ie producing a character which was an arabic one. In NOTEPAD!! With shape changing even if likely what I typed was utter rubbish... In the bat allas, it produces the normal characters as it hasnt got the translation table or at least it hasnt got it in my system as I forgot to install the language part... Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Tbot? (was: Re[2]: NAV2000 and TB!)
A, Sunday, September 03, 2000, 10:15:15 AM, you wrote: ACM No need to apologize, but lets make this the last post on AVP, OK? Use ACM TBOT for any further discussions on this. What is TBOT? Another mailing list? Got a link? -- Bye Marc MIPS: Meaningless Indicator of Processor Speed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM:ncl2fth http://members.home.com/ncl2fth Mail: The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 (Registered) --OS: Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 1 --PC: Celeron 450 Mhz / 256MB Ram -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Tbot? (was: Re[2]: NAV2000 and TB!)
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:36:36 -0400, Marc Weinmann wrote: ACM No need to apologize, but lets make this the last post on AVP, OK? Use ACM TBOT for any further discussions on this. MW What is TBOT? Another mailing list? Got a link? It stands for The Bat! off Topic list. It was started by a member of this discussion list during the days when off-topic discussions were really common and the dead horse flag was getting the broken record status. g It has indeed helped a lot in this regard. If you wish to subscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk? " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: External filter kludge?
On Saturday, September 02, 2000, 6:27:26 PM, you wrote: JA You want TB to fetch your mail from the server, export it, have an JA external program process it and then import it back into TB? Yes. The sticking point is to get TB to process the import as though it were coming from my ISP via POP3. JA If that's the case, do you already have the external program, or are JA you planning on writing one for this task? I was going to write one. I'm using Spam Bouncer now and it is VERY good at classifying spam. If any of you run with a shell account or on *nix, you might check this out. It does so by using a numeric weighting of many different rules and detection techniques. Unfortunately, this is a procmail script, and I have not been able to find a way to run it under Windoze. I was considering using the same techniques in a pgm I could run in Win. JA Either way, there may be JA a less complicated solution for what you want. I'm all ears :-)... JA My suggestion would be, get a program that will act like a local mail JA server (Hamster springs to mind, but I'm sure there are lots of other JA ones). Hopefully you can find one that will store the messages in a JA plain text file format. This is a bit of a problem. I have not seen one in my search that looks like it produces text files. M$ seems pervasive :-((. JA Once you do that, have your filtering program JA run on this server file. When that's complete, TB could just JA download the mail like normal, except it would get it from your local JA server instead of your ISP. Would I have a conflict with other proxies? I now run Proxomitron (and like it a lot) on localhost. How would I run both? JA If this is not acceptable, then how about creating a second account JA (account B)in TB. SNIP Also, under JA Networking and Administration, select "Allow Local Delivery." This JA just bypasses your ISP's mail server. I was thinking of using the 2-account technique in my original post; one to download and send to the external pgm, and the second to be my 'real' account that would get the processed mail as an *input*. From Help: When "Allow Local Delivery" is on, the outgoing messages addressed to local users, are dispatched directly and put into appropriate message bases instead of sending them to SMTP server. Is a "message base" another account folder? If so, could I make a rule that just 'puts' it in the other account folder, or do I actually have to 'forward' the message to the other account? JA In fact, you can make it so JA Account B can not access your ISP's mail server, and this should JA work. This would be a good idea. JA Run a manual filter on this subfolder. This JA manual folder should redirect your messages to the address specified JA in account A (eg [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and delete them from the JA subfolder. I'm a bit confused - why do I have to run the filter manually? JA Now your messages will be processed as though you were JA downloading them off of your mail server. This is what I was looking for! If so, all the many rules will still work. JA Hope this helped. This helped a LOT Thanks VERY much!!! Ever closer to the spam filter... ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: External filter kludge?
Hello ztrader, On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:43:26 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, September 04, 2000, 1:43:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, ztrader wrote: On Saturday, September 02, 2000, 6:27:26 PM, you wrote: JA You want TB to fetch your mail from the server, export it, have an JA external program process it and then import it back into TB? Yes. The sticking point is to get TB to process the import as though it were coming from my ISP via POP3. JA If that's the case, do you already have the external program, or are JA you planning on writing one for this task? I was going to write one. I'm using Spam Bouncer now and it is VERY good at classifying spam. If any of you run with a shell account or on *nix, you might check this out. Is this bouncing spam back with all the correct headers like the address is wrong so they remove you off the list (Snipped the rest) Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: External filter kludge?
On Sunday, September 03, 2000, 6:15:10 PM, you wrote: t Is this bouncing spam back with all the correct headers like the t address is wrong so they remove you off the list Nope - I have mine set to not bounce anything. But, you can set it up to bounce, to bounce with a nasty message, to report spam to abuse-whatever, and a whole host of other options if you want to get really detailed about what to do. (You could even have it send an email to your local congressman, with the offending post attached :-). It's quite flexible... ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Vanishing email?
I have noticed several times that the number of emails being recovered does not seem to match the number of new emails shown. For example, TB just got '1 of 1' emails, but no new email shows up! I do not have any filtered to 'mark as read' in this account. Any idea what is happening? Thanks, ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Vanishing email?
Hello ztrader, On Sunday, September 03, 2000 at 21:10:52 GMT -0700 (which was 9:10 PM where I live) witnesses say ztrader typed: I have noticed several times that the number of emails being recovered does not seem to match the number of new emails shown. For example, TB just got '1 of 1' emails, but no new email shows up! I do not have any filtered to 'mark as read' in this account. Any idea what is happening? Check your filters, maybe you have one that is deleting the messages, or perhaps it is marking them as read. Also, try doing a find on all folders for messages from today (Look under the advanced tab of the find utility.) Hopefully you have your account set to leave messages on the server for a few days. That way you shouldn't loose too much mail. Good luck! -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
