Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello all, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, A Curtis Martin wrote: MS 2) Drag and Drop attachments MS I often receive messages containing more than one attachment of which MS I need to forward only one or several but not all to someone else. In MS order to do so, it would be nice if one could open the mail, open a MS second, new mail and just drag and drop the attachments that need to MS be added to the outgoing mail right from the window of the received MS mail onto the window of the new mail. Now THAT would make for an interesting addition. Great suggestion. as I know, this is not possible to implement with Delphi2. We must wait for ver. 2, which will be developed in Delphi5. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From WIN 95 to Win2K
Anticipating a new computer for quite some time now, I archived a few messages on how to move TB! from one machine to another. Believe it or not, I've even read the FAQ. Well, the new machine is here. I'm going from a Pentium 75 to an AMD 1Ghz. Slight improvement, eh? What I'm not sure of is if I can use the same procedures described in the FAQ when changing from WIN 95 to WIN2K. Also, I normally don't use the internal backup routine. Instead, I just export the registry settings, and them zip everything into one large zip file as part of my normal maintenance. As Win2K is a totally new environment/OS I don't know what to expect. Is there a preferred method when it comes to Win2k? TIA, Derek -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -'95 Concours DoD #1359 COG #2103 SR #772 AEE #036025 ASHRAE #5106329 PADI NRA LF-FL A (American Association Against Acronym Abuse) Born to be Wild. Sentenced to Sedation. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Derek, Also, I normally don't use the internal backup routine. Instead, I just export the registry settings, and them zip everything into one large zip file as part of my normal maintenance. That was the way I used to bring my TB from win98 to w2k and it worked. A friend took the other way from w2k to winME and it doesn't worked. I have no experience to do this from win95. As Win2K is a totally new environment/OS I don't know what to expect. Is there a preferred method when it comes to Win2k? I'm sure it will not damage your w2k but you want to restore your TB environment on that system, so I hope somebody else has the answer. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
memo auto-view dissapearing
Hi all, if i , in the "view"menu tick "memo autoview" ,this setting is lost after restarting. If this is a bug ,would there be a way to manually alter the registry? Thank you in advance Linda using Windows 2000 THEBATVERSION 1.51 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: no printing possible when to-field is empty
Hey A, Tuesday, April 10, 2001, 7:42:45 PM, you wrote: AS (not before). But without having the email addresses in the to-field, AS I cannot print the mail. Is there a higher meaning in that behavior? ACM That's a most peculiar requirement on your part. vbg This is most likely ACM a bug that you've uncovered there. The problem is that you're using beta ACM software for TB! and this problem may be confined to the beta version. I ACM don't know if any full release version users wish to confirm whether or ACM not this problem exists with their installations. I can confirm that the same thing is happening here. (An "Edit Mail Message" popup with a red circle/white X icon, and the text "You cannot leave TO: field blank".) My guess is it is a feature implemented by using the same "check msg format" routines for "Send" and "Print". -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.51 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:47:25 -0400, dMb contributed this to our collective wisdom: d Well, the new machine is here. I'm going from a Pentium 75 to an AMD d 1Ghz. Slight improvement, eh? What I'm not sure of is if I can use the d same procedures described in the FAQ when changing from WIN 95 to WIN2K. d Also, I normally don't use the internal backup routine. Instead, I d just export the registry settings, and them zip everything into one d large zip file as part of my normal maintenance. d As Win2K is a totally new environment/OS I don't know what to expect. d Is there a preferred method when it comes to Win2k? AFAIK, the registry export file format is backward compatible and the HKCU portion of the registry is identical among Windows flavours. It's very likely (I'd be very surprised if it didn't since there's not much difference between the Win9x and registries) that it will work, though most have migrated from Win98 to Win2k. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOtRDAFfJ62ArBxfiEQKODQCg6wewcIPY+BJO8DURVKoW80J+TNoAoMuC 1/71IFymrPnZkKaIMADY2P66 =UnH7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: From WIN 95 to Win2K
about the moving of TheBat mail archive: Which is the problem ?! I have saved and moved it arond from Win98/Nt and now 2000 at alst 5 times in these last months... May be I have no perfectly understand the problem, but all I do to move is: 1) save the "Mail" folder into thebat! directory 2) Save the address book (by exporting it) 3) Copy and import this data into the new OS or machine 4) Create the mail accounts using the old paths... Is there any way easier ?! Fabio Colonnello -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
Hello Tim, AS (not before). But without having the email addresses in the to-field, AS I cannot print the mail. Is there a higher meaning in that behavior? ACM don't know if any full release version users wish to confirm whether or ACM not this problem exists with their installations. I can confirm that the same thing is happening here. (An "Edit Mail Message" popup with a red circle/white X icon, and the text "You cannot leave TO: field blank".) My guess is it is a feature implemented by using the same "check msg format" routines for "Send" and "Print". How is it, if things like this are bugs, is it useful to send a bug report to ritlab or do they see this postings and immediately start to work? :-) -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Fabio, Is there any way easier ?! I use a batch file to generate a reg file for the to 2 or 3 registry entries. Copy the hole TB- Path (with everything in it - address book, accounts, and so on) to the new PC and doppelclick the reg files to restore the registry entries on the new PC. That's all. Just 3 minutes. I never used the backup procedure. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anton, On 11 April 2001 at 14:04:54 +0200 (which was 13:04 where I live) Anton Sommer wrote to Tim Musson and made these points: I can confirm that the same thing is happening here. (An "Edit Mail Message" popup with a red circle/white X icon, and the text "You cannot leave TO: field blank".) My guess is it is a feature implemented by using the same "check msg format" routines for "Send" and "Print". AS How is it, AS if things like this are bugs, is it useful to send a bug report to AS ritlab or do they see this postings and immediately start to work? AS :-) Bug reports are useful. The only list traffic which is used in bug fixing is that of TBBETA during a beta cycle AFAIK. This problem probably won't be fixed. Although I can see that it looks like a problem, logically it strikes me that the print message function works by printing a saved message. An outgoing message cannot be saved until it has a to: address. The mechanisms look tightly intertwined and I wouldn't expect a change to that procedure until v2. Just IMHO. Still, it's worth a report so that it goes on the list of "things that could work better" for v2 :-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtRLxDnkJKuSnc2gEQJe3gCfXv7e4h1IOPQ/pe0rXH6BV7wEFBoAoJTA 0RUNmqfk+HmkmVEfmlZwDnhv =PBul -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Dear Anton, AS I use a batch file to generate a reg file for the to 2 or 3 registry AS entries. Great ! And how do you make, or how can I make this batch file !? Thank you -- Fabio Colonnello -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Anton! On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 at 1:08:17 PM you wrote: That was the way I used to bring my TB from win98 to w2k and it worked. A friend took the other way from w2k to winME and it doesn't worked. I have no experience to do this from win95. AFAIR it was discussed more than once on this list as working. The problem is with the new registry format in Win2k, which *can* import old registry settings/branches. But the other way round it does not work (from 2k to 9x). Concerning Win94, Win98 and WinME, they are more or less the same (well, at the "OS" level, not on their interface) so, what works for 98 should work for 95 and ME. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Military Intelligence is a contradiction in terms. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtRH1vTo1oA8g8dLEQI4nQCcDaezpofEkfEXW550uv8wBrsbbmsAn0Zg nTuJHrP4W8Vb7KOjxnj/Wtf1 =JX2C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Fabio again, I forgot to say, you have to install the new TB on the new PC. And than my procedure works. *But* the better (and correct way) is what Serge wrote in his answer. Someday, anything can change in the registrie or TB will use ini files for the parameters. So my description can be obsolete. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Dierk, DH On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 at 1:08:17 PM you wrote: That was the way I used to bring my TB from win98 to w2k and it worked. A friend took the other way from w2k to winME and it doesn't worked. I have no experience to do this from win95. DH AFAIR it was discussed more than once on this list as DH working. The problem is with the new registry format in DH Win2k, which *can* import old registry DH settings/branches. But the other way round it does not DH work (from 2k to 9x). DH Concerning Win94, Win98 and WinME, they are more or less DH the same (well, at the "OS" level, not on their DH interface) so, what works for 98 should work for 95 and DH ME. As for me, I wouldn't play with registry import/export between Win9x/NT4/W2K. I guess it may end up in a rather specific kind of entertainment:( Install and restore strategy is much more reliable IMHO. Best regards, Serge Skorokhodovmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Serge, As for me, I wouldn't play with registry import/export between Win9x/NT4/W2K. I guess it may end up in a rather specific kind of entertainment:( Install and restore strategy is much more reliable IMHO. I corrected my recommendation in the other thread. You are absolutely right. It is just an old procedure that works (!?!) sience I know TB. Next time I will try the official and more safty way. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hallo Allie, On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:17:36 -0500 GMT (11/04/2001, 08:17 +0800 GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: MS 2) Drag and Drop attachments MS I often receive messages containing more than one attachment of which MS I need to forward only one or several but not all to someone else. In MS order to do so, it would be nice if one could open the mail, open a MS second, new mail and just drag and drop the attachments that need to MS be added to the outgoing mail right from the window of the received MS mail onto the window of the new mail. ACM Now THAT would make for an interesting addition. Great suggestion. I just tried it and am actually surprised it doesn't work! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -Love is blind but like is just too freaked out to see straight. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Easy macro question
Hallo Anton, On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:33:31 +0200 GMT (11/04/2001, 07:33 +0800 GMT), Anton Sommer wrote: AS Now I want to use the macro %ACCOUNT="adressbook name" means AS %ACCOUNT="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or %ACCOUNT="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and so AS on, to be independent from the selected account in TB. Why don't you just use the %account= macro on the AB level? %Account="AS", %Account="BG", %Account="GB" and so forth. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Many people quit looking for work when they find a job. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 14:57:30 +0200 Anton Sommer wrote: @regedit /e !_RegSettings_2.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT" It has been announced officially and repeated several times on the list but it looks worth repeating since old habits die hard: the "HKLM\...\RIT" branch is no longer used by TB, so it serves no point to back up or restore it. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
Hello Ming-Li, The best guess I could come up with is you don't want to send it out accidentally before you finalize it after reading it on paper. If That is the point. It happend a few time and in some cases it was a little bit embarrassing because of the mistakes. that's the case, saving it as "draft" (see the sandglass on the toolbar?). TB would never send out a draft message, even though it's in the Outbox. I cannot safe it as an draft without filling out the TO-field. And that is what I'm afraid for. Ok, if I would be more careful it would be no problem. But sometimes... Please also note that without a "To" address, the autosave function (see [Options | Editor Preferences | Auto-save every nn min]) in TB won't work, either. Thank you for that information. That was also new for me. Should the destination email address really the first field you have to fill out to get the features to handle it like an email? Sorry, I started learning english last week, don't expect a good grammar from me :) -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
Hello Ming-Li, Anyway, it's always a good idea to clean up your temp-dir from time to time. After all, TB isn't the only program that leave things there. I don't know, what external program I use. I just open TB, read my emails, send some emails. And really nothing else. Attachments - seldom. And every day I have files from bat2.tmp to bat84.tmp and many more. All tmp-files have the size Zero. I'm sure, there must be another explanation. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). Thanks in advance - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOtR8Z0qL65Xj7aHMEQLJAACghEuxr+VIbraOJjUO2MJQ9FO/fzgAn2mE +qq6W1cq7ewhbLb3plSU/CON =pQh5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 at 4:54:21 PM you wrote: The best guess I could come up with is you don't want to send it out accidentally before you finalize it after reading it on paper. If that's the case, saving it as "draft" (see the sandglass on the toolbar?). TB would never send out a draft message, even though it's in the Outbox. Sorry Ming-Li, I just wanted to clear up what Anton should do to be on the save side and realised we are wrong. I wanted to write out the steps how he can avoid accidental sending up to the point where he *had to open the draft* to fill in the text or (later) change anything. More specific, I open a new message, then fill in any of the addressee fields (TO, CC or BCC, doesn't matter), save the message immediately as draft so TB! won't send it. But then I have to open the draft to write the message. With this operation the message becomes "un-drafted", prone to be sent accidentally. So, what Anton really wants cannot be achieved; he has to be, sorry to say, more careful. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wherever Germany extends her sway, she ruins culture. (Friedrich Nietzsche) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtRwjvTo1oA8g8dLEQLywgCeMya6Jh3mkBZh/aHq0L+iYxFZcx0An28O BNVubDmPdY/me/km7vKRH9G3 =d5Nu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On April 10, 2001, at 1:19:46 PM, Anton Sommer wrote: there are dozents of temp files in the temp-dir. They are still there when I close TB. Is that usual? I'm still with Beta 1 because with Beta 3 and 4, there were absolutely hundreds of temp files left behind... yet with Beta 1 there were none to speak of. That, plus many other anomalies have convinced me to leave Beta 3 and 4 alone until they resolve all the problems people are having. I don't think it is a very stable Beta, and therefore will not be tested properly. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unreadable attachments
Hello all, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, Nick Gordon wrote: I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). MS Exchange uses own encoding type named MS-TNEF. If is possible to change it to Base64, then will be problem solved. If not, You can use program named FENTUN, which is able to decode them. You can try to download it from this location: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/fentun.zip -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 17:35:17 +0200 Anton Sommer wrote: I cannot safe it as an draft without filling out the TO-field. And that is what I'm afraid for. Ok, if I would be more careful it would be no problem. But sometimes... I don't really get this. When you save it as a draft (with the "To" field filled, of course), TB would never send it out, unless you manually cancel its draft status. So why worry about filling in the "To" field? Thank you for that information. That was also new for me. Should the destination email address really the first field you have to fill out to get the features to handle it like an email? Not really, but it's the way TB is currently designed. As Marck explained, the mechanisms look tightly intertwined that changes don't seem likely within its current structure. It doesn't mean it can't be made better, especially with the newly designed v2, for which we're all eagerly waiting. Sorry, I started learning english last week, don't expect a good grammar from me :) Are you trying to put me to shame? ;-) I've learned English for years and still make grammatical errors every so often. :( -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 10:57:50 AM, you wrote: On April 10, 2001, at 1:19:46 PM, Anton Sommer wrote: there are dozents of temp files in the temp-dir. They are still there when I close TB. Is that usual? I'm still with Beta 1 because with Beta 3 and 4, there were absolutely hundreds of temp files left behind... yet with Beta 1 there were none to speak of. That, plus many other anomalies have convinced me to leave Beta 3 and 4 alone until they resolve all the problems people are having. I don't think it is a very stable Beta, and therefore will not be tested properly. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ I am using 1.51, not a beta. I just looked in my temp directory, and found 653 bat related temporary files, all of 0 bites. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 17:45:26 +0200 Anton Sommer wrote: I don't know, what external program I use. I just open TB, read my emails, send some emails. And really nothing else. Attachments - seldom. Do you receive html messages with lots of graphics? They might need to be saved as temp files to be handled (even by TB). I'm not sure about this for at this moment I couldn't find any to try, but it's a possibility. And every day I have files from bat2.tmp to bat84.tmp and many more. All tmp-files have the size Zero. I'm sure, there must be another explanation. Another thought just came to my mind: do you use any anti-virus program that would check email in the background? I don't use any of those, so it's just a wild guess. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 17:56:13 +0200 Dierk Haasis wrote: But then I have to open the draft to write the message. With this operation the message becomes "un-drafted", prone to be sent accidentally. Sorry, but I don't get this. What's the problem? When you open a draft to further edit it, there's no danger that TB would suddenly send it out. TB would never send out a message in the work. If you still don't want to send it, just save it as draft again. My wife and I do this very often for some important messages (messages to our professors, e.g.). The one who writes it would save it as draft, the other would review it and send it out if there's no major changes, or save it as draft again if substantial changes are made and final decision needs to be made by the original sender. Occasionally this would take several rounds, and yet we never send a message by mistake (or it would be a disaster, given the importance of the message). Or did I misunderstand you? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 08:57:50 -0700 Nick Andriash wrote: I'm still with Beta 1 because with Beta 3 and 4, there were absolutely hundreds of temp files left behind... FWIW, I use beta 4 and there's no temp files in my temp dir, even though my Bat has been up for many hours. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick! On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 at 5:46:40 PM you wrote: I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). RTF-sent messages (or HTML, where it is not required)? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Nur dem ntzt das Lob, der den Tadel zu schtzen versteht. (Robert Schumann) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtRxEfTo1oA8g8dLEQLppwCdEu1mRbLIzTbtq819g07a5NfTXMcAnRtt YO2xI6p16mBcoOXxxKWJPCGW =1Z2h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ming-Li, On 11 April 2001 at 09:41:45 -0700 (which was 17:41 where I live) Ming-Li wrote to Nick Andriash on TBUDL and made these points: I'm still with Beta 1 because with Beta 3 and 4, there were absolutely hundreds of temp files left behind... ML FWIW, I use beta 4 and there's no temp files in my temp dir, even ML though my Bat has been up for many hours. Are you certain of that? I have *hundreds*. If I'm teaching grannie the art of egg-sucking, forgive me, but the "temp" dir is a bit tucked away in Win2k: \Documents and Settings\(user).(machine)\local settings\temp If that's where you looked and there really are no TB temp files, I'm surprised. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtSL+jnkJKuSnc2gEQLYPACdFYWFQew0N7l/2a65u1SXcmtn9BEAoOVb YV54wzWFmp4BaP4fchr9RDef =hLVE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 at 6:38:54 PM you wrote: Sorry, but I don't get this. What's the problem? When you open a draft to further edit it, there's no danger that TB would suddenly send it out. TB would never send out a message in the work. If you still don't want to send it, just save it as draft again. The problem lies in the safety measure Anton wants. You are perfectly right concerning drafted messages as long as they are not opened. From the moment they are opened up again you could accidentally send them without warning - just by the click of a button. With none of the addressee fields filled in you cannot send the mail. TB! will tell you to put in an address (even an invalid one) into the TO field. I understood that Anton wants to be that safe. If he only needs safety on un-opened messages the drafting way is right. If he wants a kind of "the-fools-in-town" safety (sorry, Anton), the best way, yet, is to put a perfectly invalid string into the TO field (like "dfdg"). If the message gets send accidentally now, it just will bounce back with a not from MAILER-Daemon. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Love is the answer ... (John Lennon) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtR9t/To1oA8g8dLEQLQIQCg77vyT73aswoNrqkXJrYE3dRmgGEAoOUM cQV59dRkZbBcXPKDz/SErwA2 =WW00 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 11:26:41 -0500 Dwight A Corrin wrote: I am using 1.51, not a beta. I just looked in my temp directory, and found 653 bat related temporary files, all of 0 bites. This 0-byte thing brought to me an old memory. I'm not sure if it's (still) true, but I vaguely remember learning that 0-byte files, unless created intentionally, happen most often when a file-deleting operation is not complete. I.e., the necessary FAT/FAT32 changes have been made, but the directory entry isn't erased. Could this be the case? For those of you who see this a lot, what OS are you using (my guessing is Win9x, for its file management is weaker)? Well, I'm not sure what to make of this even if it's true. Just a thought. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On Tuesday, April 10, 2001, 1:19:46 PM, Anton Sommer wrote: AS there are dozents of temp files in the temp-dir. They are still AS there when I close TB. AS Is that usual? Yes. With ver 1.51, I usually get 1000 files! I just checked, and over the last two weeks or so, I have 1170 temp files from TB. ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
Hello Ming-Li, Another thought just came to my mind: do you use any anti-virus program that would check email in the background? I don't use any of those, so it's just a wild guess. I use McAfee to check the emails but I never believed that it would work:-) No, I closed McAfee, deleted all temp-files, startet TB again and have the same effect. A temp file invasion Now I think this is a new quality of computer mystics somebody have it, somebody not I will leave the way of realistic, physik, science and whatever and will think about water vein under my house:-) -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: no printing possible when to-field is empty
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 18:53:18 +0200 Anton Sommer wrote: I clumsy pc-user very often press the wrong button. I want to press 'save' but I really press 'send'. Well, that brings us to another area where I want to see TB improves: user-customizable toolbars. I, for that very reason, want to hide the "Send Immediately" button from my toolbar, and want to hide several others I don't use. OTOH, there're tasks I would like to have a button on the bar. But that's another thing for the so-close-yet-so-far-away v2. sigh -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
newbie thinking about moving from Eudora 4.3.2.
Hi batfans, I've just started evaluating The Bat 1.51 after 5 years with Eudora and I'm both impressed and bewildered at the same time. I'm looking for a manual or for more help on documentation and while I have read the FAQ, it doesn't seem to cover a lot of basic features. Aside from the mailing list archives, is there any other manual or documentation that might be useful to a complete The Bat! newbie? I feel like I could spend the whole 30 day eval just trying to figure out how everything works! I guess I'll go check the mail archives first... -- Gen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 at 17:53:14 +0100 Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ML FWIW, I use beta 4 and there's no temp files in my temp dir, ML even though my Bat has been up for many hours. Are you certain of that? I have *hundreds*. I do see them sometimes, but very rarely, and I check (and clean up) my temp dir quite often. What I usually see there are stuff from Word and other M$ leftovers. If I'm teaching grannie the art of egg-sucking, forgive me, but the "temp" dir is a bit tucked away in Win2k: \Documents and Settings\(user).(machine)\local settings\temp If that's where you looked and there really are no TB temp files, I'm surprised. No, that's not where I looked. smirk I've changed my system environment variables. I believe you know Win2k system has 4 temp dirs (system temp and tmp, and user temp and tmp). All of them have been re-assigned by me. As said, I'm in the habit of cleaning up my temp dir often, so it's quite cumbersome to get to a dir buried 4 levels deep. Just to clear any doubt, I went to check the dir you mentioned. And yes, there's nothing there. Also just checked the temp dir I assigned, and again, there's no TB temp files there. (As noted, I do see them sometimes. Just not now.) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ming-Li, On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, at 09:41:45 [GMT -0700] Ming-Li wrote: I'm still with Beta 1 because with Beta 3 and 4, there were absolutely hundreds of temp files left behind... ML FWIW, I use beta 4 and there's no temp files in my temp dir, even ML though my Bat has been up for many hours. I just realized a couple of days ago that one of these .tmp files are left behind in my Windows\Temp directory (Win 98SE) everytime I open a message in TB! So, as a temporary fix I put a little dittie in my autoexec.bat to clean out all .tmp files from that directory upon startup. I realize that we *shouldn't* have to do that, but hopefully RitLabs will straighten this out soon... - - - - Regards, Ron Secord Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 Under Windows 98 SE 4.10. A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: Digitally signed for authenticity! iQA/AwUBOtSSHj3g1/Rev158EQJgfACgxdDxR6yh2LXyM0A3xSYpDvSqCn4An181 zl5yUnCiaLLpU5yxqfPEBRVk =vyxe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Easy macro question
Hello Thomas, AS Now I want to use the macro %ACCOUNT="adressbook name" means AS %ACCOUNT="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or %ACCOUNT="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and so AS on, to be independent from the selected account in TB. Why don't you just use the %account= macro on the AB level? %Account="AS", %Account="BG", %Account="GB" and so forth. I want to have one template (for all new emails) which is the same for all address books. This template is a text file which I include with the %include macro. In this template I try to get as much informations about the AB and the person as possible to personalize the output mail. %Account="AS", %Account="BG", %Account="GB" and so forth. Maybe I misunderstand your example. "AS", "BG" and "GB" should be email accounts? or is there another deep of knowledge about macros that are new for me? (I do not know much about macros) How ever. I'm really looking for good idea's to make changes in my templates as easy as possible. I have 200 email addresses and it is very hard to do the change for every person. One big problem is, that the properties of each template level (account, group, person...) are not passed to the next level like in object oriented programming. It is an hirarchy which means 'just one' template. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: newbie thinking about moving from Eudora 4.3.2.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 11, 2001, at 10:11:40 AM, Gen Kanai wrote: Aside from the mailing list archives, is there any other manual or documentation that might be useful to a complete The Bat! newbie? I feel like I could spend the whole 30 day eval just trying to figure out how everything works! Well, I think a good place to start would be the FAQ: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and after that just spend time with the Program. This List is probably the best thing you could have done with regards to learning how to use TB!, and reading the Archives... which I see you are already doing. You will find TB! to be far superior to Eudora in many aspects, although TB! does lack the spit and polish of Eudora. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOtSVvcUChHR7o/3OEQIuDQCgt+EmwPOjv+N83ysFKRlxs3GonXsAoOcM 1/CML1IsmZfKs2Uwf41a2ULR =xC+6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
Hello Peter, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 3:04:46 PM, you wrote: PGH but these mono-spaced fonts (like Courier New) are really driving me PGH crazy, because they are so unbelivably ugly. When are we going to be PGH able to use something else than fixed-width fonts in the Bat? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure I understand the point of TT fonts in TB! since TB! sends *only* text emails. Wouldn't the use of TT fonts necessitate RTF or HTML formatted emails? -- Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
Hej Dave, DG Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure I understand the point of TT DG fonts in TB! since TB! sends *only* text emails. Wouldn't the use of TT fonts DG necessitate RTF or HTML formatted emails? Not at all. I've seen numerous e-mail clients that send text-only e-mails (and I for one *hate* HTML mails), so it's not a technical problem at all. The last time I asked, RitLabs told me that it would be implemented in version 2.x of TB! -- That was over a year ago... -- Med venlig hilsen Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Smart is when you believe half of what you hear. Brilliant is when you know which half. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, On 11 April 2001 at 22:04:46 +0200 (which was 21:04 where I live) Peter G. Hansen wrote to TBUDL and made these points: PGH I'm here new here, so bear with me if someone has asked this PGH question before. The thing is that I really, really like the Bat!, PGH but these mono-spaced fonts (like Courier New) are really driving me PGH crazy, because they are so unbelivably ugly. When are we going to be PGH able to use something else than fixed-width fonts in the Bat? Never, I hope. Sorry - end of a long day ... the longer answer is that it is more appropriate to find a fixed pitch font that you do like. One that gets mentioned every time this debate reemerges is Andale Mono - which I use myself. The facts are that: 1. You can't do this kind of hanging paragraph format or anything even approximating it using a variable font. 2. Another thing that can't be done is this to underline bits. 3. NumberReasonRating ------ 1 You can't do columns without 5 2 You can't do justification 2 3 Its the only way to achieve 10 plain text WYSIWYG between dissimilar email client software. Columnar presentation is another *good* reason for the TB editor to provide the free-space floating cursor. Doubtless V2 will see it introduced. Doubtless the vast majority of us will ignore it and stick with what works *really* well. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtTFGTnkJKuSnc2gEQIZ6wCg57ydBqSWqp3t5tSoihg4xQ7A49YAnRKD j9Ltuf9jCthkiAEyewX5tWe3 =H/N7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
3 Its the only way to achieve 10 plain text WYSIWYG between dissimilar email client software. One thing, is that even though your message appears fine in your editor, it doesn't mean that the person receiving the e-mail will be using a fixed width font. Now, for a question. I know how to tell the editor which font to use, but how do I change the font for Folder pane and the message list pane? -- James Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] BravePoint http://www.BravePoint.com Phone: 207-885-9902 Fax: 425-696-8507 Mobile: 207-450-8577 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi James, On 11 April 2001 at 18:45:35 -0400 (which was 23:45 where I live) James Blankenship wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: 3 Its the only way to achieve 10 plain text WYSIWYG between dissimilar email client software. JB One thing, is that even though your message appears fine in your JB editor, it doesn't mean that the person receiving the e-mail will JB be using a fixed width font. Maybe not by default, but *all* MUAs offer a fixed pitch view mode. Ultimately I would probably like to see TB work the way Pegasus does it in this respect - a simple hot key toggle between the two possible view fonts. I'd probably still stick with Andale mono anyway - I'm used to it :-). JB Now, for a question. I know how to tell the editor which font to JB use, but how do I change the font for Folder pane and the message JB list pane? Not possible I'm afraid. This is hard coded in the interface. There has bee some talk of changing system wide defaults (menus etc) from Windows' display properties but I think that ended up having little or no effect. Hang on ... by using colour groups you can change the font / colour of the message lists, so that one's available right now. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtTi1znkJKuSnc2gEQKV7ACg0E6xynfIDtKU4GpotT9i58HRsVcAoKXj WebnYlCMxsKXA7V+k3J5DqM2 =/6hC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
Hi Ming-Li, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 8:05:58 AM, you wrote: Anyway, it's always a good idea to clean up your temp-dir from time to time. After all, TB isn't the only program that leave things there. Thanks for the hint! As a run of the mill computer user I had no idea I should be doing this and found 690 MB (4700 files) in the temp folder! Most of them *were* TB files. My computer froze twice when trying to delete them, because there were so many. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
Hang on ... by using colour groups you can change the font / colour of the message lists, so that one's available right now. Very slick!! Works like a charm. I can live with the folder pane, I don't look at that as much as the message lists. Thanks!! -- James Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] BravePoint http://www.BravePoint.com Phone: 207-885-9902 Fax: 425-696-8507 Mobile: 207-450-8577 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 4:58:24 PM, we have reason to believe that Dierk Haasis wrote: I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). DH RTF-sent messages (or HTML, where it is not required)? That was it! Thanks a lot - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOtTtfkqL65Xj7aHMEQKeEQCeLxSVSfcXvF+aAayllbVZSw3zJxAAoIvi iJILlq6y6SC8MI0v7EwJOghN =sZJK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 5:04:59 PM, we have reason to believe that Marek Mikus wrote: I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). MM MS Exchange uses own encoding type named MS-TNEF. If is possible to MM change it to Base64, then will be problem solved. MM If not, You can use program named FENTUN, which is able to decode them. MM You can try to download it from this location: MM ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/fentun.zip Thanks for the pointer to Fentun - works a treat. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOtTtokqL65Xj7aHMEQIOywCgufBFny3oiLKBsgGBmbVuzKYLUMYAn1o8 6wGcenUkO8ByckBEkeMw1CuZ =W3Ju -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
Yeah I get up to 500 or so each week, even though they are mostly 0-Byte in size they take up heaps of space on your HDD cause EVERY file is allocated a "Minimum" size on the HDD and collectively a few hundred can add up to a lot of wasted space, this is known as "Slack Space" and your defrag prog may give you stats of the amout of this space you have, check it before and after you delete the files and you'll get a BIG surprise ;) As well as that when you run a defrag, it takes ages, because it's got so many more File-Entries on the HDD to process, also same if you delete heaps of them at once, your machine may seem to "Hang" as the HDD re-writes hundreds or thousands of FAT-entries... ...just wait for it to finish gracefully! If you panic or are impatient and hit the "Off" button while it is in this state then you risk causing errors which will require fixing (Scandisk ect)yuk. == Wednesday, April 11, 2001, you wrote: AS Hello, AS there are dozents of temp files in the temp-dir. AS They are still there when I close TB. AS Is that usual? == ~Kb.n+jrz6
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 11, 2001, at 7:00:01 PM, K wrote: Yeah I get up to 500 or so each week This has been going on now for quite some time, and I have personally sent in a report to RITLabs about the seemingly endless *.tmp files. I wouldn't call it a bug, but for whatever reason TB! sure does create a lot of them. For me it was worse with Beta 3 and 4... in fact just before writing this reply I had over 700 *.tmp files. I have since switched back to Beta 1 where I may have only 6 or 7 of those files per session. I don't know why there is such a difference. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOtUQ7cUChHR7o/3OEQIYHgCggw/m41OdWmE8BJydI+xXIp5ezaEAn3QZ lMEn441omK2/3PDbAt9MDvs0 =uYKy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: When are we going to see true type fonts in TB?
On Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 1:56:56 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: PGH When are we going to be able to use something else than PGH fixed-width fonts in the Bat? MDP Never, I hope. I'll second that! I really LIKE these fonts, too, for the reasons you mentioned, and others. TB makes it easy to use them also. If anything, I'd like to see any possible improvements in handling/editing/filtering text much before adding fancy fonts or HTML. But, I'm mostly interested in the information content of messages, not how pretty they look. :-) ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Anton, ÓÒÅÄÁ, 11 ÁÐÒÅÌÑ 2001 Ç., you wrote: AS Hello Fabio, Is there any way easier ?! AS I use a batch file to generate a reg file for the to 2 or 3 registry AS entries. AS Copy the hole TB- Path (with everything in it - address book, AS accounts, and so on) to the new PC AS and doppelclick the reg files to restore the registry entries on the AS new PC. AS That's all. Just 3 minutes. AS I never used the backup procedure. From my experience, there are two ways that lead to success. The first one is that Fabio supposed. The second one is to install TB! on the new machine with a dummy account and then restore all account tree from internal back-up. The only thing one have to do manually is copying colors.ini file from old mail dir to the new one:) Anyway, TB! installation program creates all registry entries and registry version incompatibility isn't an issue:) Best regards, Serge Skorokhodovmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: From WIN 95 to Win2K
Hello Fabio, And how do you make, or how can I make this batch file !? I will send it to your private email address. The name will be TheBatSettings.bat- Before you use it, you have to remove the - character at the end of the filename. I put it on the filename so that you first can check it before start it. It's harmless. It generates just the reg files and makes no changes in your regestry. These are the commandlines in it: @regedit /e !_RegSettings_1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT @regedit /e !_RegSettings_2.reg HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT -- Best regards, Anton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 (german version) Service Pack 1 Software in the background: Zonealarm Pro 1.0.122 McAfee 5.16 - scan engine 4.1.40 Browsers: Opera 5.02 english version IE 5.50.4522.1800 german version -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
