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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Sunday, October 28, 2001, 10:06:47 PM, Thomas F wrote:

> It would be a pane, not a window. I think it's called the
> account-tree pane. But I now know what you mean. No, there is no
> keybaord shortcut, tab is the way to go.

There are three panes, right. So you could always get there in one
shot, because tab goes clockwise and shift-tab goes counterclockwise.
(unless you are talking about a digital clock)

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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread Thomas F


Hi Raj,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:29:52 +0530GMT (29/10/2001, 10:59 +0800GMT),
Raj wrote:

R> After installation I found that I could not use the keyboard or
R> mouse... Panic situation.

I bet. What did you do? Telekinesis? ;-)

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Re: Discussion on interface?

2001-10-28 Thread PFord

On Monday, October 29, 2001, Allie C Martin wrote:

PF>> How did this message find its way to the list? I sent it to the
PF>> moderators address. I didn't even notice it when posted. Duh.

> Seems like a folder template kicked in or something. Here's the To
> header of the message:

Yup. My apologies. :(

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Re[2]: Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread Raj


Jan,

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, at 11:33:23 [GMT -0500] (which was 22:03 where I live) you
wrote:

JR> I had a similar situation & have found that w2k pro likes
JR>   to be re-installed *clean*. It is so finicky about
JR>   permissions & assignments that it gets weird if it doesn't
JR>   have the solid foundation of a fresh install.

Thanks for the reply.

Actually  I  was kicked about configuring the middle mouse button for the F4 functions 
and
installed  the  HP's mouse driver (I am using HP). After installation I found that I 
could
not use the keyboard or mouse... Panic situation.

So  finally  had  to  do a clean installation. Since TB was in a different partition I 
was
wondering  if  there  was any way I could recover the files. After what happened I did 
not
want  to  touch  the registry files.. So finally restored from my week old back up. 
Lost a
few files. But now I am back.

Allie  :  If you could assist me offline or on TBOT as to how to configure Powerpro to 
use
the middle button as F4 in TB would be thankful.

Thanks to all for the help.

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Re: Discussion on interface?

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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PF> How did this message find its way to the list? I sent it to the
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Seems like a folder template kicked in or something. Here's the To
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Re: Cursor jumping when deleting threads

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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PF> When I'm going through a folder that has a lot of unread messages
PF> from mailing lists, I'll delete some threads as I go using
PF> CTRL-SHFT-DEL. Quite often, but not always, the focus in the
PF> messages list (item grid) will jump to the top. G. Since I
PF> usually start from the bottom of the list and work my way up, this
PF> is quite annoying. I have the sense, though, that I'm doing
PF> something to cause this behavior, but I'm not sure what. Any
PF> thoughts?

I'm experiencing this as well and the only way I've found to prevent
this is to delete the thread fully collapsed. It's definitely a TB!
shortcoming and not you.

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Re: Discussion on interface?

2001-10-28 Thread PFord


How did this message find its way to the list? I sent it to the
moderators address. I didn't even notice it when posted. Duh.

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Cursor jumping when deleting threads

2001-10-28 Thread PFord


Hi All,

When I'm going through a folder that has a lot of unread messages from
mailing lists, I'll delete some threads as I go using CTRL-SHFT-DEL.
Quite often, but not always, the focus in the messages list (item
grid) will jump to the top. G. Since I usually start from the
bottom of the list and work my way up, this is quite annoying. I have
the sense, though, that I'm doing something to cause this behavior,
but I'm not sure what. Any thoughts?

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Thomas F


Hi Nick,

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 22:03:08 -0600GMT (29/10/2001, 12:03 +0800GMT),
Nick Danger wrote:

ND> Okay, maybe I'm not using the right nomenclature. I use the full-width
ND> preview pane split mode.  The window I'm referring to is the one in the
ND> upper left.  I want to be able to shift focus directly to that pane
ND> with a keystroke and not have to do multiple tabs to accomplish it.
ND> And... if that's not referred to as the accounts window, what would it
ND> be called?

It would be a pane, not a window. I think it's called the account-tree
pane. But I now know what you mean. No, there is no keybaord shortcut,
tab is the way to go.

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Keyboard Shortcut
   From: Thomas F
~~

Hello Thomas,

ND>> No.  I'm trying to shift focus to the accounts window with one
ND>> keyboard entry.  I've not seen such a entry in any of the shortcut
ND>> listings I've seen, that's why I asked in case I missed it along the
ND>> way somewhere.

> What is the "accounts window"? Do you mean TB's main window, or do you
> mean the account properties?

Okay, maybe I'm not using the right nomenclature. I use the full-width
preview pane split mode.  The window I'm referring to is the one in the
upper left.  I want to be able to shift focus directly to that pane
with a keystroke and not have to do multiple tabs to accomplish it.
And... if that's not referred to as the accounts window, what would it
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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Thomas F


Hi Nick,

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 21:30:38 -0600GMT (29/10/2001, 11:30 +0800GMT),
Nick Danger wrote:

ND> No.  I'm trying to shift focus to the accounts window with one
ND> keyboard entry.  I've not seen such a entry in any of the shortcut
ND> listings I've seen, that's why I asked in case I missed it along the
ND> way somewhere.

What is the "accounts window"? Do you mean TB's main window, or do you
mean the account properties?

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Keyboard Shortcut
   From: Thomas F
~~

Hello Thomas,

ND>> Does anyone know if a keyboard shortcut exists to jump straight to the
ND>> accounts window?

> Does crtl-shft-P do what you mean?

No.  I'm trying to shift focus to the accounts window with one
keyboard entry.  I've not seen such a entry in any of the shortcut
listings I've seen, that's why I asked in case I missed it along the
way somewhere.

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Thomas F


Hi Nick,

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:41:15 -0600GMT (29/10/2001, 10:41 +0800GMT),
Nick Danger wrote:

ND> Does anyone know if a keyboard shortcut exists to jump straight to the
ND> accounts window?

Does crtl-shft-P do what you mean?

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Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-28 Thread Nick Danger


Does anyone know if a keyboard shortcut exists to jump straight to the
accounts window?

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Re: exporting from BAT to Outlook 2002

2001-10-28 Thread Januk Aggarwal


Hello pkroy,

It was foretold that on Sunday, October 28, 2001 at 14:07 GMT +0530,
pkroy [P] would type:

P> can u help me to remove the bat splashscreen..

In future, please send TB questions to the TBUDL list.  As for your
question, you can remove the splash screen by adding the /NOLOGO
option to the command-line.  To do this in Windows, go to your The Bat
shortcut, right-click and select properties.  Then the Target should
be something like:

"C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe" /NOLOGO

P> any link to resource base ?

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Re: Discussion on interface?

2001-10-28 Thread John Melville

Hello PFord,

On Saturday, October 20, 2001,  you wrote:

> Hi Moderators,

> As you know, I've been using TB! for a long time. I'm not sure where
> the long-awaited version 2 is, but I've been thinking quite a bit
> lately about TB!'s interface and how annoying it can be in its
> organization.

Easier editing of Global preferences. Ive just switched servers and
have to go through the configuration process again, (which sadly
involves more trial and error :o)

user defined patterns in the backrounds would be nice.
I like to view my text on Marble like backgrounds (MUI?)

http://www.earthcity.co.uk/bat/yam.png

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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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>> If you look at the message list column headers, you'll see a little
>> arrow to the right of 'subject'. This tells me that you're sorting in
>> ascending order according to subjects and not the message dates.

JM> surely if I sort by dates the threads are mixed up to suit? or can I
JM> view by date - then subject? (subject - then date would be better?)

You can sort by subject and by date.

Do the date sorting as I mentioned in the previous message. To also
sort by subject you have to thread the messages by going to
View/View Threads by/Subject or just hitting Alt+2.

JM> and it still doesnt answer why all is well up until threads
JM> beginning with the letter "S"

It's hard to draw any solid conclusions here since most of your
subjects in your screen shot start with 'Re' and the all the
exceptions except for the first entry begin with 'S'. I can't really
detect what chronologic pattern is used when sorting by subject the
way you're doing.

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Re[2]: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread John Melville

Hello Allie,

On Sunday, October 28, 2001,  you wrote:

> If you look at the message list column headers, you'll see a little
> arrow to the right of 'subject'. This tells me that you're sorting in
> ascending order according to subjects and not the message dates.

surely if I sort by dates the threads are mixed up to suit? or can I
view by date - then subject? (subject - then date would be better?)

sorry if I have misunderstood the answer :)

and it still doesnt answer why all is well up until threads beginning
with the letter "S"

This happens in all folders.

JM>> is there any decent screen grab utilities for the PC,

Thanx for all the replys to this (my, what a friendly bunch)
I`m kinda new to the pc and converting bmp to png and reducing
colours isnt straightforward ATM.

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Re: Form post behaviour

2001-10-28 Thread Brian Clark


Hi Marck,

@ 5:10:49 AM on 10/28/2001, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

BC>> Anyway, I created a form with the action
BC>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=foo,

  
  Oops. I meant to let you know I tried it
  without the subject and it gave me the
  same result ("subject" error in the log).
  
MDP> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; ENCTYPE="Text/Plain" 
METHOD=POST>

Yep, still got the same result with the above cut and pasted exactly
as shown - still the *boink* with flashing Connection Centre and it
was stuck in the Outbox without a subject. The log still says:

!10/28/2001, 16:49:32: SEND  - Message from , subject "", is not properly addressed

I would think it's IE problem since you're getting different results?
I'm using IE 5.50.4522.1800CO to be exact.

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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread SyP


Hello Allie,
 
You wrote on 10/28/2001, 9:09 PM:

Allie> Thanks for that. I've always noted the superiority of png when dealing
Allie> with for example, captures of text.

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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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S> JPG is better for continuos tone images, e.g. photos (and yes,
S> coincidentally they are likely carry >256 colours, but not always -
S> think greyscale-256 colour images), but worse for images with sharp
S> edges, e.g. text, screenshots etc.

Thanks for that. I've always noted the superiority of png when dealing
with for example, captures of text.

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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread SyP


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Hello Allie,

You wrote on 10/28/2001, 8:37 PM:

Allie> For images which don't need more than 256 colours, png format
Allie> is great. So for capturing application windows, cartoons and
Allie> the like, png is the way to go. However, for photos or images
Allie> carrying more than 256 colours, jpg seems the way to go.

JPG is better for continuos tone images, e.g. photos (and yes,
coincidentally they are likely carry >256 colours, but not always -
think greyscale-256 colour images), but worse for images with sharp
edges, e.g. text, screenshots etc.

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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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@ 18:02:22 +0100 [ Sun, 28 Oct 2001], Jernej Simonèiè [JS]
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SC>> Where image has more then 256 colors. Else use jpg .

JS> Some time ago, (on TBBETA IIRC), I made a comparison between PNG and
JS> JPG. Results were:
JS> PNG (24bit): 25 kB
JS> JPG (95%): 135 kB (and it looked worse than PNG)
JS> JPG: 25 kB (very low quality, wanted to show what happens - text was
JS> unreadable)
JS> Then somebody converted that PNG file to 256 colors, and it came out
JS> at 17kB.

JS> BTW: if you wish I can make these screenshots again.

For images which don't need more than 256 colours, png format is
great. So for capturing application windows, cartoons and the like,
png is the way to go. However, for photos or images carrying more than
256 colours, jpg seems the way to go.

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Re: F4 replies to selection

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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ACM>> PowerPro is your answer. It will do so much else for you and it can
ACM>> make the F4 work only on TB! windows so that the middle mouse button
ACM>> works normally for other applications.

A> sounds a bit like using a sledge hammer to put in a pin.

I don't think so. My point is that I can use the middle mouse button
the usual way, everywhere else in Windows. If you use the intellimouse
software, you've bound the middle mouse button to F4 which is really
only useful to you when replying to mail.

The other thing is that being able to simplify repetitive tasks into
one keystroke, mouse movement or a combination of the two is the
natural way to go if you're willing to learn how and use the relevant
software. PowerPro is a good example of software that service these
other needs as well. The beauty of it is that defining each keystroke
doesn't have to be system wide. It can be application specific.

What does seem like a sledgehammer to me is to install separate mouse
driver software to do one thing. Note that your mouse will work
without intelli-mouse software installed. :-) If you install it just
to get the F4 working *system wide* with the middle mouse button while
you can install something else and get a lot more functionality, then
the choice seems clear to me. :-)

After all that's said, YMMV. To each his own.

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Re: TB! V1.54/10 - PW @ folder level

2001-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten


Hallo Jan,

Op zondag 28 oktober 2001, 18:46:07, schreef jij:

JR>I know I can create an Account level password but I'd
JR>like to create a folder level password to protect a
JR>*personal* folder. This doesn't seem possible @ the
JR>moment; is that correct?

As a work around I suppose you could create a new account, password
protect it and drop all personal mail into that account via a filter.
The settings of that account could be such that it never checks mail
at a server, so that you don't have to be afraid that it collects mail
that it shouldn't collect.

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Re: TB! V1.54/10 - PW @ folder level

2001-10-28 Thread Thomas F


Hello Jan,

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:46:07 -0500 GMT (29/10/2001, 01:46 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR>I know I can create an Account level password but I'd
JR>like to create a folder level password to protect a
JR>*personal* folder. This doesn't seem possible @ the
JR>moment; is that correct?

Yes, that is correct. IOW no, it is not possible.

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TB! V1.54/10 - PW @ folder level

2001-10-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson


Hello TBUDListers.

   I know I can create an Account level password but I'd
   like to create a folder level password to protect a
   *personal* folder. This doesn't seem possible @ the
   moment; is that correct?

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Re: Treeview in folders?

2001-10-28 Thread Roman Katzer


On Sunday, October 28, 2001, 17:22:42, AO wrote:
> As a new user, I am becoming more and more happy about TB
> and it's functionality. Always new possibilities to explore.

You bet! :)

> How do I turn it on and off, and can I use it to
> expand/collapse other columns as well (eg. subj)

It's the thread view. [View]->[View threads by]->[...]

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Re: Treeview in folders?

2001-10-28 Thread Jernej Simončič


Hello AO,

28. oktober 2001, 17:22:42, you wrote:

A> How do I turn it on and off, and can I use it to
A> expand/collapse other columns as well (eg. subj)

 View->View threads by->[] or you can use Alt+0..4

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Treeview in folders?

2001-10-28 Thread AO


Hi tbudl,

As a new user, I am becoming more and more happy about TB
and it's functionality. Always new possibilities to explore.

Today  I  found  that  one  of  my  folders  have  gotten  a
treeview-like  [+]  sign  to the left of each sender. When I
click it, it expands a list of all mail from each sender. I
have no idea where it came from, but it's quite cool.

How do I turn it on and off, and can I use it to
expand/collapse other columns as well (eg. subj)

Regards

Anders Olsen


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Re[2]: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Jernej Simončič


Hello Silviu,

28. oktober 2001, 15:25:14, you wrote:

JS>> HyperSnap DX. BTW: you may find out that saving as PNG will reduce
JS>> file size and improve image quality...

SC> Where image has more then 256 colors. Else use jpg .

Some time ago, (on TBBETA IIRC), I made a comparison between PNG and
JPG. Results were:
PNG (24bit): 25 kB
JPG (95%): 135 kB (and it looked worse than PNG)
JPG: 25 kB (very low quality, wanted to show what happens - text was
unreadable)
Then somebody converted that PNG file to 256 colors, and it came out
at 17kB.

BTW: if you wish I can make these screenshots again.

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Re: IMAP functionality in BAT?

2001-10-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Jay!

On Sunday, October 28, 2001 at 4:48:46 PM you wrote:

> How does everyone use BAT for IMAP?  I don't see a Purge commandhow do I
> delete from server?

Currently IMAP is only implemented rudimentary - essentially giving
POP3 functionality with IMAP protocol.

> (i sent this from outlook express because I can't use and pay for BAT until
> I can get IMAP to work properly)

You don't need to apologize for using OE, only for not switching off
its default "Send HTML mail". HTML wasn't at all necessary for your
mail.

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Re: Fwd: RE: MSN.Com

2001-10-28 Thread Richard Lane


Hello *Kevin*,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 3:00:03 PM, you wrote:


> Hi Guys... E-mailed Steve B about microsoft's decision What a
> response..

> Steve B's Response:


> I appreciate the input  will consider  thanks


> - -- Original ---

> Hi Steve,

> I think Microsoft's Decision to Restrict the MSN.Com site to only
> Microsoft's Products is absolutely sickening,
> I think Microsoft, even though it denies it, is trying to monopolise
> the Computer Industry, Why dont you Stand Back, take a Look at
> Microsoft, And notice that you are WRECKING businesses worldwide, YOUR
> MAKING MONEY!!, so what the hell are you worrying about with other
> competititors, you own the OS market, but users wont let you rule the
> rest!!, Give your competitors a chance at least, dont ruin them, cause
> in the end, theye software is WAY better than microsoft... Why??
> because they listen to DOMESTIC USER opinions, does Microsoft? Not
>>from what ive seen!!

> Kevin


 You might like to take a look at the following link...
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/22497.html

 Opera and Mozilla get MSN support.
 
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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson


Hello Raj.

You wrote the following on the posted subject 'Recovering
Folders':

Raj> I had reinstall Win 2K as an experiment which I tried
Raj> did not work :( All the partitions are as it is incl
Raj> the TB.

Raj> I started TB and it will not recognize the folders. I
Raj> tried Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L. But does not work.

Raj> The /mail folder is still there with all the accounts
Raj> and folders. An early reply will be reall appreciated
Raj> as I am having withdrawl symptoms ;)

Raj> Any suggestions 

  I would like to describe what happened to me as it may
  give you a couple of other things to think about.

  I had a similar situation & have found that w2k pro likes
  to be re-installed *clean*. It is so finicky about
  permissions & assignments that it gets weird if it doesn't
  have the solid foundation of a fresh install.

  I did a parallel install of w2k & transferred all necessary
  files off to another medium. For The Bat!, this involved
  the *entire* "MAIL" folder.

  I re-formatted my HD & re-installed w2k & the TB! program.
  But before I created any new accounts as part of the TB!
  installation process, I exited the program. Then I copied
  the backup MAIL folder in it's entirety to the HD,
  replacing the MAIL folder TB! installed & 'imported' the
  accounts from the old MAIL folder. Worked like a charm.

  HTH

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Re[3]: Lycos acount problems

2001-10-28 Thread cyclons


Hello Jernej,

ctc>>> The problem is : I don' see the contents of the mails I receive
ctc>>> immediately (see my previous messages : Message not shown).  I
ctc>>> have to press F9 to see the contents of the mails I receive from
ctc>>> lycos.

JS>> This is a wild guess, but try right-clicking on the message, and
JS>> select RFC-822 headers. Maybe The Bat doesn't recognize the message
JS>> body...

JS>> BTW: does The bat display message's subject?

When I select RFC-822 headers, the message is shown.  Only one problem
when it is a html message, you don't see it in html, but you see the
source-code of the html.

Would there be a way to select RFC-822 headers just for that account?
When I turn on rfc-822 headers in the view-menu, it is selected for
all my accounts.

Concerning the subject : no subject is shown, no from and to, and the
date of creation says 30 dec 1899 00:00:00

It is very strange.  When I receive the mails from that account in
outlook or outlook express, there is nothing wrong with them.

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Re: Bug?

2001-10-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Wayne!

On Sunday, October 28, 2001 at 4:17:42 PM you wrote:

> All still seemed well until I closed down TheBat. That is when it
> locked up. Everything was okay when I restarted my computer.

> The best thing to do is probably choose "put in outbox" and if
> necessary, edit them one at a time. Or, could this be a bug?

It seems to be a problem with memory handling. I usually open mass
mailings in the editor to see for any increeping mistakes. sometimes
(but not always) TB! won't open all messages but crash or give out an
error message I can't recall.

I even had some empty messages a few times - at least they looked
empty but were alright after closing all windows and having a look in
the Outbox.

Since Win9x is notorious for memory problems due to its three small
heaps (GDI, User and System) I am not sure if it is a TB! related bug
or just normal Win9x behaviour.

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Re: Kill Dupes

2001-10-28 Thread Dierk Haasis


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Hello John!

On Sunday, October 28, 2001 at 11:20:34 AM you wrote:

> maybe it could kill them before or while downloading?

Nope, only when they have been downloaded and sorted into its folders.
"Kill Dupes", sadly, works only for folders.



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IMAP functionality in BAT?

2001-10-28 Thread Jay





How does everyone use BAT for IMAP?  I don't 
see a Purge commandhow do I delete from server?
 
thanks
 
(when you select IMAP4 account, those 'leave 
message on server' settings should become greyed out since they do not 
apply)
 
(i sent this from outlook express because I 
can't use and pay for BAT until I can get IMAP to work 
properly)

Bug?

2001-10-28 Thread Wayne Black


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Sunday, October 28, 2001 7:13 AM GMT -0800

Hello Bat Users,

I just had TheBat lock up on me for the first time and wondered if
anyone else had this happen by doing what I did. I was experimenting
with the mass mailing feature and created the template. Next I
selected 47 address book entries and hit "mass mailing using template"
and picked my template. Then under "action" I picked "open in editor"
I guess I should not have done that because it opened all 47 messages
in the editor (like it should) I then closed them all by hitting Esc
47 times. All still seemed well until I closed down TheBat. That is
when it locked up. Everything was okay when I restarted my computer.

The best thing to do is probably choose "put in outbox" and if
necessary, edit them one at a time. Or, could this be a bug?

And a question. How can you delete the search history in message
finder? It is getting quite long.

Thanks for your comments and I sure wish there would be a The Bat!
Forum in the US some day. Perhaps Reno or Las Vegas?

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Fwd: RE: MSN.Com

2001-10-28 Thread *Kevin*


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Hi Guys... E-mailed Steve B about microsoft's decision What a
response..

Steve B's Response:


I appreciate the input  will consider  thanks


- -- Original ---

Hi Steve,

I think Microsoft's Decision to Restrict the MSN.Com site to only
Microsoft's Products is absolutely sickening,
I think Microsoft, even though it denies it, is trying to monopolise
the Computer Industry, Why dont you Stand Back, take a Look at
Microsoft, And notice that you are WRECKING businesses worldwide, YOUR
MAKING MONEY!!, so what the hell are you worrying about with other
competititors, you own the OS market, but users wont let you rule the
rest!!, Give your competitors a chance at least, dont ruin them, cause
in the end, theye software is WAY better than microsoft... Why??
because they listen to DOMESTIC USER opinions, does Microsoft? Not
>from what ive seen!!

Kevin










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Irc.DarkServ.Net
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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


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Sunday, October 28, 2001 at 4:24:19 PM ,
Jernej Simonèiè wrote the following
on the "direction req`d" thread:

JS> HyperSnap DX. BTW: you may find out that saving as PNG will reduce
JS> file size and improve image quality...

Where image has more then 256 colors. Else use jpg .

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Re: Lycos acount problems

2001-10-28 Thread Jernej Simončič


Hello cyclons,

28. oktober 2001, 14:08:07, you wrote:

ctc> The problem is : I don' see the contents of the mails I receive
ctc> immediately (see my previous messages : Message not shown).  I have to
ctc> press F9 to see the contents of the mails I receive from lycos.

This is a wild guess, but try right-clicking on the message, and
select RFC-822 headers. Maybe The Bat doesn't recognize the message
body...

BTW: does The bat display message's subject?

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Re[2]: F4 replies to selection

2001-10-28 Thread ::Andrew::


Hello Allie,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 11:22:05 AM, you wrote:

ACM> PowerPro is your answer. It will do so much else for you and it can
ACM> make the F4 work only on TB! windows so that the middle mouse button
ACM> works normally for other applications.

I now have it working. I'd used the intellimouse software to specify
special keys for The Bat! and while I'd set the global button to f4
I'd forgotten to re-set Bat specific settings.

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Re[2]: F4 replies to selection

2001-10-28 Thread ::Andrew::


Hello Allie,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 11:22:05 AM, you wrote:

ACM> PowerPro is your answer. It will do so much else for you and it can
ACM> make the F4 work only on TB! windows so that the middle mouse button
ACM> works normally for other applications.

sounds a bit like using a sledge hammer to put in a pin. Doesn't
anyone use the intellimouse software and has got it to work in this
way?

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Re[3]: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Jernej Simončič


Hello John,

28. oktober 2001, 11:15:17, you wrote:

JM> is there any decent screen grab utilities for the PC, something that
JM> can grab requesters, error messages as well as program windows and
JM> full screens ?

HyperSnap DX. BTW: you may find out that saving as PNG will reduce
file size and improve image quality...

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom


Hello David,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 2:02:43 PM, you wrote:

CB>> Problem comes when trying to kill dupes. I can't. TB reports no
CB>> dupes on folders. Now, I have about 2000 dupes I can't delete.

DvZ> I have reported this some time ago on TBBETA but nobody could
DvZ> reproduce it.

This is the link of the bug-report I wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg12089.html

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Lycos acount problems

2001-10-28 Thread cyclons



Hello,

is anybody using a lycos account with the bat?  I am using an acount
with lycos.nl, and download and upload messages with mx1.lycos.nl.

The problem is : I don' see the contents of the mails I receive
immediately (see my previous messages : Message not shown).  I have to
press F9 to see the contents of the mails I receive from lycos.

Is there anybody else who also uses an acount with lycos, and who
hasn't got problems with this?

Thanks,

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom


Hello Chema,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 12:26:37 PM, you wrote:

[...]
CB>  Problem comes when trying to kill dupes. I can't. TB reports no dupes
CB>  on folders. Now, I have about 2000 dupes I can't delete.

I have reported this some time ago on TBBETA but nobody could
reproduce it. So now I'm not the only one. If I use an older version
of TB! (e.g. v1.51), I *can* kill the dupes. BTW it started for me
with version 1.52.

I can reproduce it every time. If I change 'Delete messages from
server' to 'leave messages on server for x days', and after some time
I change it back to 'Delete messages on server' TB! downloads all the
messages on the server again. Now I have a bunch of dupes, that's
normal. But if I press kill dupes, TB! finds no dupes.

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Re: Comment

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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ACM>> How do you get rid of it. I usually can't and just have to
ACM>> ignore it.

P> I move the "real" cursor on top of the fake and start to write
P> something. One mark will do.

I've never really tried that since I invariably don't have anything to
type there. I'd therefore have to delete it and that would be a waste
of time for what doesn't really bother me that much. :-)

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Re: Comment

2001-10-28 Thread Pete


Hello Allie,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 12:12:53 AM, you wrote:


P>> I get this double cursor daily. I know it doesn't affect the
P>> message but I just don't want to see any extra "thingies" on my
P>> screen :( So every time it appears I have to get rid of it.

ACM> How do you get rid of it. I usually can't and just have to ignore it.

I move the "real" cursor on top of the fake and start to write
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Re: Comment

2001-10-28 Thread Pete


Hello Januk,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 1:40:37 AM, you wrote:


JA> Hello Pete,

JA> On Saturday, October 27, 2001 at 16:19 GMT +0300, a creature mimicking
JA> Pete [P] wrote:

P>> "A good example is my Yahoo account where I have separate folders for
P>> TBUDL, TBTECH and TBBETA. Same sorting orders, same preferences but
P>> after launching TB! the TBUDL-folder opens "from the wrong end"
P>> whereas TBTECH and TBBETA folders open correctly. All are first level
P>> folders - no sub-folders."

JA> Sorry I missed this thread, but do you have any purge options set in
JA> the Folder properties?  What I find is that TB remembers the position
JA> properly, but sometimes the last selected message was purged during
JA> the shut down process.  If that happens, then I get stuck at the top
JA> of the list, or in some random spot in the list.

On exit - compress the folder. Same as in every other folder.



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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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...
AM> This sequence should work if the only thing that has changed is
AM> the drive lettering and that you didn't recreate any accounts,
AM> giving them different names from the previous ones.

You could also make the changes pretty quickly via the registry but
please don't do so if you aren't comfortable with it. The place to do
this is:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\rit\The Bat!\Users Depot

User#1, User#2 etc. are the accounts and you'll see the account names
there. Dir#1, Dir#2 etc. are the corresponding home directories for
the users/accounts. Changing the directory paths to reflect the
desired paths will fix your problem as well.

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Re: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:15:17 +, John Melville [JM] graced us with
these comments:
...
JM> http://www.earthcity.co.uk/bat/bat.jpg

JM>   sorry its about 250k :(

Nothing beats a good screenshot. 

If you look at the message list column headers, you'll see a little
arrow to the right of 'subject'. This tells me that you're sorting in
ascending order according to subjects and not the message dates.

You can sort the messages according to received time, i.e., the time
the message is downloaded to TB! or created time, the time the message
was created by the sender. Most sort according to created time though
sorting according to received time has the advantage of not being
dependent on the senders system time.

To sort messages according to their dates&time so that the more recent
messages are at the bottom of the list, tap the created time column
header twice. The arrow should appear and be pointing upwards. Another
way is to enable '//View/Sort By/Creation Time'  and '//View/Sort
By/Descending order'.

JM> is there any decent screen grab utilities for the PC, something
JM> that can grab requesters, error messages as well as program
JM> windows and full screens ?

I personally use Capture Professional. Not freeware, but excellent.
http://www.creativesoftworx.com  The site seems to be down now but you
can see if it's down at your end.

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi Chema,

On 28 October 2001 at 12:26:37 [GMT+0100] (which was 11:26 where I
live) Chema Berian wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

CB>  Last  night, at 03:00 (02:00 with winter system) TB retrieved *again*
CB>  all  pending mail on server. (I usually maintain mail on server for 4
CB>  days)

This is due to an old MDaemon bug and there are settings in MDaemon to
overcome this problem. If you don't change the setting, it's going to
happen with every DST adjustment.

CB> Problem comes when trying to kill dupes. I can't. TB reports no
CB> dupes on folders. Now, I have about 2000 dupes I can't delete.

That seems strange. The message creation times and IDs shouldn't have
changed ... I don't know what to suggest.

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-28 Thread Chema Berian


Hello Listers, 

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001,  at 06:39:25 [GMT -0500] (which was 12:39 where I
live)  Allie wrote:

ACM> This is most interesting. TB! identifies dupes using the message
ACM> ID's. The message ID's shouldn't have changed when you had to
ACM> re-download those messages. :-/

 As  I  can  see  by  pressing  F9,  no  ID have changed. Messages are
 identical at all.

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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CB> Last night, at 03:00 (02:00 with winter system) TB retrieved
CB> *again* all pending mail on server. (I usually maintain mail on
CB> server for 4 days)

CB> Problem comes when trying to kill dupes. I can't. TB reports no
CB> dupes on folders. Now, I have about 2000 dupes I can't delete.

This is most interesting. TB! identifies dupes using the message ID's.
The message ID's shouldn't have changed when you had to re-download
those messages. :-/

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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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K> I had reinstall Win 2K as an experiment which I tried did not work :(

K> All the partitions are as it is incl the TB.

K> I started TB and it will not recognize the folders. I tried
K> Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L. But does not work.

K> The /mail folder is still there with all the accounts and folders.

K> An early reply will be reall appreciated as I am having withdrawl
K> symptoms ;)

K> Any suggestions 

You can do the following.

a) copy your /mail folder to another location so that TB! cannot get
at it.

b) For each account/s, go into its properties, open the file and
directory preferences and change the Home Directory to the where it
should be, i.e., your /mail folder. TB! will likely create new
account folders, overwriting the old ones (this is why you copied the
files over)

c) Now close TB! and *copy*, not move (you still need your backup),
the /mail folder back over.

d) Restart TB!. If you still don't see your mail, try the
CTRL+Shift+Alt+L key combo again.

This sequence should work if the only thing that has changed is the
drive lettering and that you didn't recreate any accounts, giving them
different names from the previous ones.

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Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-28 Thread Chema Berian


Hello Listers,

 Last  night, at 03:00 (02:00 with winter system) TB retrieved *again*
 all  pending mail on server. (I usually maintain mail on server for 4
 days)

 Problem comes when trying to kill dupes. I can't. TB reports no dupes
 on folders. Now, I have about 2000 dupes I can't delete.

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Re: F4 replies to selection

2001-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin


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A> I realise I can now select f4 by selecting keystroke in the options
A> listed but it it creates an empty email when clicked now. Rather
A> than replying to sender and quoting the selected.

PowerPro is your answer. It will do so much else for you and it can
make the F4 work only on TB! windows so that the middle mouse button
works normally for other applications.

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Kill Dupes

2001-10-28 Thread John Melville


Hello thebatml,

  Hah! , there was me bitchin lately (after mail server problems) that
the bat downloads duplicate messages.

I`ve just noticed an option to "kill dupes"
Excellent  :o)

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Re: Form post behaviour

2001-10-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


Hi Brian,

On 28 October 2001 at 20:16:05 [GMT-0400] (which was 00:16 where I
live) Brian Clark wrote to TB!UDL and made these points:

BC> Anyway, I created a form with the action
BC> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=foo,

Try this simple construct:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; ENCTYPE="Text/Plain" 
METHOD=POST>

BC> filled out the form, hit submit, IE notified me blah blah, then I
BC> heard *boink* while the Connection Centre flashed on and off,
BC> message was stuck in Outbox, and the log said:

BC> !10/27/2001, 20:09:30: SEND  - Message from , subject "", is not properly addressed

BC> I take it that's not supposed to happen. :-$

(from David's reply to me):

No - The messages in question are automatically headed "Form posted
from Internet Explorer" - dunno where that gets put in - I would have
thought IE did it.

  These are the log entries:

+28/10/2001, 07:57:24: SEND  - connection finished - 1 of 1 messages sent
*28/10/2001, 07:58:07: SEND  - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue

Both are triggered from the Mailto:

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Re[2]: direction req`d

2001-10-28 Thread John Melville



Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, October 28, 2001,  you wrote:

> Hello John,

JM>> Before "s" the chronological orders are fine and after "s" the orders
JM>> are backwards?

> Err... I would like to see a screenshot of that.

http://www.earthcity.co.uk/bat/bat.jpg

  sorry its about 250k :(
  
is there any decent screen grab utilities for the PC, something that
can grab requesters, error messages as well as program windows and
full screens ?
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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi kalady,

On 28 October 2001 at 14:34:23 [GMT+0530] (which was 09:04 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

kvc> I had reinstall Win 2K as an experiment which I tried did not
kvc> work :(

...

kvc> The /mail folder is still there with all the accounts and folders.

kvc> Any suggestions 

The registry contains a lot of important configuration information. If
you don't use the built-in Backup utility or at least preserve the TB
registry data, you'll have trouble accessing the TB data.

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Recovering Folders

2001-10-28 Thread kalady


Hi All,

I had reinstall Win 2K as an experiment which I tried did not work :(

All the partitions are as it is incl the TB.

I started TB and it will not recognize the folders. I tried Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L. But does 
not work. 

The /mail folder is still there with all the accounts and folders.

An early reply will be reall appreciated as I am having withdrawl symptoms ;)

Any suggestions 

Raj

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Re: Comment

2001-10-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Allie!

On Sunday, October 28, 2001 at 1:06:15 AM you wrote:

DZ>> No, just the one %CURSOR right below %QUOTES.

> I normally have my cursor at the beginning of messages which makes me
> wonder if this difference could be the problem why I have no problems
> while you do.

I doubt it. As I have - in my reply templates - the cursor macro
defined two lines beneath the quotes macro and never had such a
problem.

Maybe he has some more macros, even regex defined in more than one
line *without* the "%-" macro, giving him some empty lines between
%QUOTES and %CURSOR?

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