Re: ISO settings
Hello Peter, On Thursday, February 7, 2002 at 9:34:22 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): PH you used the ISO-8859-15 encoding for your message. PM did I? I didn't change anything, but I'm using a beta version of TB!. PM Maybe it sets this as default. My normal setting is ISO-8859-1. I'll PM check on this later. Dave Conroy's mail you answered to was in 'us-ascii', so The Bat! used it for your answer. In your status bar there should have been written 'none' (check it our by opening again an answer mail to Dave's). As soon as you used the accent TB! recognized it can't sent the mail with 'us-ascii' and for what ever reason it changed the charset to Latin-9. Setting manually to 'Latin-1' before sending should solve the problem until a more sophisticated solution is found :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Think twice before you think. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
ON Thursday, February 07, 2002, 9:37:00 PM, you wrote: Dierk I never had the inclination to do this, but ... try to open it with a Dierk normal text editor like TextPad, it opens everything. If it is Dierk not readable you can try a HEX editor. Hi Dierk, Tried that, that's why I know it's a Microsoft attachment, but it is near impossible to figure out what's in it. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- % of all statistics are wrong. - Statistics Canada 1985 - Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
Hello Gerard, On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 10:08:14 AM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): GdV btw your sig cutoff mark is incorrect. No, his message was PGP-sigend, and this prepends the '- ' before signature mark to avoid probable misbehaviors by PGP-en/de-crypt routines. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) No man is an island, but some of us are long peninsulas. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, On 08 February 2002 at 23:49:27 -0500 (which was 04:49 where I live) Jonathan Wayne wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sorry for my frequent TB Help file gripe - my MAIN beef with TB - but the network and admin help is worthless. I don't want a networking course; I want context sensitive information on how groups works, for example. It certainly isn't intuitive. I would hope that the TB creators at least monitor some of these very common problems and sources of confusion and address them with Help rewrite. End of soapbox.) There was a major Help update last summer. It was improved and added to by around 150%. Some topics were not covered in the upgrade however. Granted that the help is incomplete and more could be done. Frankly, groups under Network Administration are something of a black hole in terms of operability and knowledge. I can't work out what they're for and how they work. If anyone has any insights - please fill me in and I'll update the Help with the new information. I've suggested their use to Rick and have just spent half an hour trying to work out what they do and how they work. From what I can see, they do nothing, add nothing and don't work at all as expected. Right now they look to me like an un-implemented vestige of an idea. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - Brain extension - see http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y6sIOeQkq5KdzaARAot5AKCFYLbBOjgQZqVsHvzLlKgZvLpSjgCdEqwW DSd6diTXCq6b8ct0LZNYho8= =/IyO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerard, On 08 February 2002 at 10:08:14 +0100 (which was 09:08 where I live) Gerard de Vries wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the suggestion, but apparently it doesn't work under W2K. I will search the Net for an other proggie. Having re-visited the site, I see your confusion. It's an old program and when the author says Windows 95 he really means Win 32. It works on all 32 bit versions of windows... and it *does* work. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - Brain extension - see http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y7M/OeQkq5KdzaARAja7AJ0RlPLT2mUEj2j4JJi8VLOhnnMmogCgqA0D nZw9vyKi9JSurMFU0BCuY/s= =5/wK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
Hi, ATT attachments might also be plain text attachments. You get these when you requested a read receipt. fentun only works with DAT attachments, AFAIK. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/37 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: threading (or really, unthreading) a folder??
Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - it's one of the things I really appreciate about TB!'s threading options. Each folder I want threaded in a particular way remembers it's individual setting. But to accomplish this I would have to set up the heading columns for each of my several dozen folders individually, a somewhat tedious job. It seems to me a misfeature for TB! to have tied threading to the folder Use account default column settings, such that any change in the threading selection for any one folder with that option ticked results in that threading selection being propogated to all folders so ticked. Or am I missing something? Any enlightenment appreciated. -- Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Markus, On 08 February 2002 at 12:54:09 +0100 (which was 11:54 where I live) Markus Gloede wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ATT attachments might also be plain text attachments. You get these when you requested a read receipt. fentun only works with DAT attachments, AFAIK. It works with MS-TNEF attachments of the Microsoft Outlook/Exchange variety. The may be called DAT, TNEF or (as they *always* are when I receive them) ATT. The original posting was clearly about an MS Outlook file of some sort, so fentun is the answer in this case. FWIW, PGP/MIME signatures often come through as ATT attachments for me too. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ Turbocharge your brain: right here http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y7/8OeQkq5KdzaARAgcXAKDWZS48JMiXCY0uea/hez2suH2o2wCglyBu uIA1VEoCVPX1SICRW80MGRY= =zMb5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: threading (or really, unthreading) a folder??
On 08 February 2002 at 11:47 am Dave wrote: Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - it's one of the things I really appreciate about TB!'s threading options. Each folder I want threaded in a particular way remembers it's individual setting. But to accomplish this I would have to set up the heading columns for each of my several dozen folders individually, a somewhat tedious job. It seems to me a misfeature for TB! to have tied threading to the folder Use account default column settings, such that any change in the threading selection for any one folder with that option ticked results in that threading selection being propogated to all folders so ticked. Or am I missing something? Any enlightenment appreciated. To the best of my incomplete knowledge you're not and, really, rather a lot of TB!'s customisation features are a horrible muddle and need to be rewritten from scratch. (I've never understood the 'use account default column settings' - where are they set? I would expect the defaults to be set in Account Properties and folders which _don't_ take the defaults to have them explicitly set via another tab in right-mouse-button | Properties. I'm afraid that, if things like this don't hit you in the face, they're not worth using). If you think the column settings lack clarity, try 'use folder-specific print settings' - this was explained to me as clearly as it could have been yet is still utterly incomprehensible. I have neither time nor inclination to learn such curious user interface notions ... Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) Using Windows 95 and The Bat! 1.54 Beta/37 This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
Hello Marck, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 at 11:15:08 [GMT +] (which was 12:15 where I live) you wrote: MDP Hi Gerard, MDP On 08 February 2002 at 10:08:14 +0100 (which was 09:08 where I live) MDP Gerard de Vries wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the suggestion, but apparently it doesn't work under W2K. I will search the Net for an other proggie. MDP Having re-visited the site, I see your confusion. It's an old program MDP and when the author says Windows 95 he really means Win 32. It MDP works on all 32 bit versions of windows... and it *does* work. Yes it work, but not for message.att files that are the message/delivery-status part of 'attention messages' and are simple text, it's used for winmail.dat when it contain attachment (size 4k). -- Regards, Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alain, On 08 February 2002 at 13:17:56 +0100 (which was 12:17 where I live) Alain de Gevigney wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes it work, but not for message.att files that are the message/delivery-status part of 'attention messages' and are simple text, it's used for winmail.dat when it contain attachment (size 4k). Why does everybody want to argue with me today? g I have a friend who constantly sends me attachments as MS-TNEF thingies that need fentun to unbundle them. They are ALWAYS called message.att. I thank you. Yes, I have also seen winmail.dat files and other naming formats too, but that's not the point. I was just answering a specific question with a specific solution. Let's not confuse the issue. Can we close the thread now? Please? (Unless the original poster has any further questions on the topic and is certain that fentun is *not* the answer). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - Super brain -from http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y8SbOeQkq5KdzaARAt0eAKDRN3548Y+uykWagFZ8RFk34IqZSwCeLihe dQHYQ7kSDBwtcAZ/hVfliv0= =aOQ+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?
Hi Marck, [ groups ] MDP I've suggested their use to Rick and have just spent half an hour MDP trying to work out what they do and how they work. From what I MDP can see, they do nothing, add nothing and don't work at all as MDP expected. Right now they look to me like an un-implemented MDP vestige of an idea. Hm, they work for me. You can create groups and add accounts to them, BUT you first have to declare the accounts as USERS not admins. It's not possible to add an administration account to groups. Don't ask me why ;-) -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/37) Business Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: slight problem when setting up groups (Mark?)
Hi Rick, RR [...] Is there a way to move this main 'admin' privileges account RR into another group.??? why don't you just create a new empty admin account and add the old one to your group? -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/37) Business Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Carsten, On 08 February 2002 at 12:46:02 +0100 (which was 11:46 where I live) Carsten Thönges wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can create groups and add accounts to them, BUT you first have to declare the accounts as USERS not admins. It's not possible to add an administration account to groups. Don't ask me why ;-) Okay - and how do you use a group? Do you login to it? When I tried that, the login was rejected. I could create a group easily enough but couldn't do anything with it once that was done. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - a spare brain - from: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y8jROeQkq5KdzaARAq6fAJ4yTEiLG1RBV0MZzBiusZhUQQ1f2gCcDTRO IXeUaME9CwHOudQK+uNmqBw= =9zwS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Carsten, On 08 February 2002 at 12:46:02 +0100 (which was 11:46 where I live) Carsten Thönges wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm, they work for me. Aha - they do for me now too. You can create groups and add accounts to them, BUT you first have to declare the accounts as USERS not admins. It's not possible to add an administration account to groups. Don't ask me why ;-) That's correct. I still don't know why it didn't work for me first time I tried it, but I just created a group and added four user accounts to it, logged in using the name and password of the group and there were those four (and just those four) accounts. Check/Send for all only applied to those four. All-in-all, it works as you'd expect and as Rick is looking for. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - free to think - go to http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y8uJOeQkq5KdzaARAr6PAJ90ka7fre+xWcbKEhlZ8iYG8pzHzQCg61pZ mpYbMO0fSKssXQP0vT+e3Mc= =HG76 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
ON Friday, February 08, 2002, 1:29:13 PM, you wrote: Marck -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Marck Hash: SHA1 Marck Can we close the thread now? Please? (Unless the original poster has Marck any further questions on the topic and is certain that fentun is *not* Marck the answer). Marck, I have downloaded the program (fentun.exe -219kb) three times now and when I click it nothing happened and mean absolutely nothing. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- Democracy, which is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike. - Plato, The Republic. Book VIII. 558 - Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerard, On 08 February 2002 at 14:18:19 +0100 (which was 13:18 where I live) Gerard de Vries wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have downloaded the program (fentun.exe -219kb) three times now and when I click it nothing happened and mean absolutely nothing. Okay. It is a drop target. You have to save your attachment and drop it onto a shortcut to the fentun program. Then a window opens showing you the names of any attachments within the message.att file and you get the opportunity to extract them. I have a shortcut to fentun in a desktop folder. The shortcut specifies Start in the same folder. I save my attachment to that folder, open the folder, drag the file onto fentun, extract the files and they are saved back into the same folder again, ready to use. HTH. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - think ... clearly : http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y9NkOeQkq5KdzaARAv+4AJ4pPev+BKSCFAIMm6RorW8YQve5oACguD5E Svq+m7F6CoSScqOur2+PIb4= =dAvm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Friday, February 08, 2002 8:51:27 AM RE: Beta Team Greetings All, How would one (a registered user of The_Bat! for a few years) become part of the beta team? Thanks. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Error:015: Unable to exit Windows. Try the door. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAPGPYfWaEPHoZkrdjAQHfoggA8BxzhoogqiNZqfXftgGZWsWFRj3Dz6dg YoEH9OPBGUGQhxYZRYy026K1sMmW644dyFUyQMHxGA/IrtzVvfm641ydJjJZiER0 4hKgpoCJApy73YZQu8fnVKLEG+EC3doO5a+YnRgWaIl+0ejEpj2OuabS9IsJy+6e GF6CrZa+MDFWARUllQXnakX4Y53BdefHaZlyQUbBqplUbeczSsO2VNAct2H4W+nG 0zEipPXWdEDVu+opY2DiQbt2sLCF/1kGDUFDPm8wSfXu2qP2QuakhzdWjroVZPkA PsxlwZzBRDpUWOd96TlQhJIdIjyoXMQGNIYZ6OWevtxSMd3c72pFTQ== =RJMr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi DG, On 08 February 2002 at 08:54:13 -0500 (which was 13:54 where I live) DG Raftery Sr. wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How would one (a registered user of The_Bat! for a few years) become part of the beta team? Subscribe to the discussion list here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for details (and download locations) of the current beta version on http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - room to think - http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y9tjOeQkq5KdzaARArBIAKDgscOPNC8zVbGmOHq1Vlu9YtDbUACaAgfR c79A852hfcfr4YRlUZlgf3E= =OATI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Okay. It is a drop target. You have to save your attachment and drop it onto a shortcut to the fentun program. Then a window opens showing you the names of any attachments within the message.att file and you get the opportunity to extract them. I have a shortcut to fentun in a desktop folder. The shortcut specifies Start in the same folder. I save my attachment to that folder, open the folder, drag the file onto fentun, extract the files and they are saved back into the same folder again, ready to use. Wow, that's really, really convenient! Wish list - 1. Please can the next version of TB treat attachments just like normal mailreaders do? 2. Please can somebody rewrite the help file so that it's actually helpful? 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive text editor? Otherwise, I really like it :-) -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?
On Friday, February 8, 2002, 7:58:46 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Hm, they work for me. Yes, and they work for me too, but I'm sort of stuck now because now I want the main account that was tied to the admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to now become a part of a group. I made a new dummy account called Admin and that's the main one I want associated with the admin and I want the [EMAIL PROTECTED] one to be available for a normal group. To those who use groups to see what I'm talking about create a new group and try to assign the main account you started with to this new group. You won't see it in the list to choose from (at least I don't:) Any help in this area would be much appreciated. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instead of studying for finals, what about just going to the Bahamas and catching some rays? Maybe you'll flunk, but you might have flunked anyway; that's my point. -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Mary, 08. februar 2002, 15:09:37, you wrote: MC 1. Please can the next version of TB treat attachments just like MC normal mailreaders do? It already does that - normal mail readers don't support MS's proprietary format. MC 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive MC text editor? Outlook has a primitive editor. The Bat's editor is perfect for e-mail (do a search in the archives for the word editor). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Whenever in time, and wherever in the universe, any man speaks or writes in any detail about the technical management of a poem, the resulting irascibility of the reader's response is a constant. -- Ciardi's Poetry Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: FWIW, PGP/MIME signatures often come through as ATT attachments for me too. I think mutt, a widespread *nix MUA, does this. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/37 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Jernej Simoni wrote: MC 1. Please can the next version of TB treat attachments just like MC normal mailreaders do? It already does that - normal mail readers don't support MS's proprietary format. I don't have wide experience of other mailreaders, just Netscape and Eudora, and I've never had these strange .att and .msg attachments before. I can open the .msg ones, but not the .att's, as other people have said. Today I received a message (not html) with a message.msg attached. When I opened it by double-clicking, I could read the message OK, and on another tab there was a tiny jpg image. When I maximised the window the image was enlarged, but when I opened the message a second time it didn't enlarge, and I had to click back and forth between the two tabs before it would enlarge. MC 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive MC text editor? Outlook has a primitive editor. The Bat's editor is perfect for e-mail (do a search in the archives for the word editor). I've never used Outlook, and I'm getting used to TB's editor, but I still find it primitive. I didn't mean that I want an html editor; I prefer text because of the virus risk. What I meant was that with Netscape and Eudora, for example, if you write a message and then add bits to it, as most people do, the wrapping automatically puts itself right; you don't have to mess about with ALT-L or wade through the menus looking for formatting options. I've given up using autoformat (or was it justify on wrap?), because it deletes the paragraph marks, and it's too much trouble to hit enter twice at the end of each paragraph. It may sound like no big deal, but when you spend all day typing in programs that wrap automatically, it just doesn't come naturally. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
ON Friday, February 08, 2002, 2:32:18 PM, you wrote: Marck Okay. It is a drop target. You have to save your attachment and drop Marck it onto a shortcut to the fentun program. Then a window opens showing Marck you the names of any attachments within the message.att file and you Marck get the opportunity to extract them. Marck I have a shortcut to fentun in a desktop folder. The shortcut Marck specifies Start in the same folder. I save my attachment to that Marck folder, open the folder, drag the file onto fentun, extract the files Marck and they are saved back into the same folder again, ready to use. Hi Marck, I have it all working now. I guess I should have read the FAQ :-) One last question, the file I received as message.att turned out to be an excel spreadsheet. Why isn't it sent as an excel spreadsheet. Is it some form of compression? -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- Ever stop to think, and forget to start again? Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
Hello Gerard, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 at 14:18:19 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:18 where I live) you wrote: GdV Marck, GdV I have downloaded the program (fentun.exe -219kb) three times now and when I click GdV it nothing happened and mean absolutely nothing. You can ... 1) associate .att (or .dat) with fentun 2) save it to disk and use the drag-drop to put the file on fentun 3) try to associate the mime type application/ms-tnef to fentun (never done here) -- Regards, Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Editor [WAS] Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
On Friday, February 08, 2002, 9:48:07 AM, Mary wrote: MC What I meant was that with Netscape and Eudora, for example, if you MC write a message and then add bits to it, as most people do, the MC wrapping automatically puts itself right; you don't have to mess about MC with ALT-L or wade through the menus looking for formatting options. I know it's probably been brought up a million times, but what is the reasoning behind why the editor works this way? That is why when I go back and add text it doesn't wrap it nicely but has it stick out or do other crazy stuff and then I have to use ALT-L? And then like Mary said when auto-format is on it messes with the line breaks. I'm getting used to going back and doing alt-L on things but I'm curious why it is set up this way? I mean I have a powerful text editor called UltraEdit and with wrapping on it preserves line breaks but yet wraps according to what ever margin I set it at. Not trying to bring up the whole Bat editor war, just curious behind the reasoning why it is the way it is. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive and drive. I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some trees there. The smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we played. I remember a bigger, older guy we called Dad.' We'd eat some stuff, or not, and then I think we went home. I guess some things never leave you. -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Mary, Friday, February 08, 2002, 9:48:07 AM, you wrote: MC I've given up using autoformat (or was it justify on wrap?), because MC it deletes the paragraph marks, and it's too much trouble to hit enter MC twice at the end of each paragraph. MC It may sound like no big deal, but when you spend all day typing in MC programs that wrap automatically, it just doesn't come naturally. I am finding the TB! editor is growing on me to the point that, after a month or so of using it, I wish I could configure my other text editors and word processors so they worked in the same manner. -- Best regards, David Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Mary, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:09:37 +0100GMT (8-2-2002, 15:09 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MC 1. Please can the next version of TB treat attachments just like MC normal mailreaders do? There is no 'like normal mailreaders do'. Recently somebody posted an attachment with outlook 2000 to a restricted list I'm subscribed to. Two members using Outlook Express didn't even see the attachment. One member, using Eudora, saw the attachment, but had troubles accessing it. TB saw the attachment, could save it, could access it. Can't say that I've ever had any problems with TB handling attachments. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary, On 08 February 2002 at 15:48:07 +0100 (which was 14:48 where I live) Mary Cassidy wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What I meant was that with Netscape and Eudora, for example, if you write a message and then add bits to it, as most people do, the wrapping automatically puts itself right; you don't have to mess about with ALT-L or wade through the menus looking for formatting options. The default formatting option is not to use Auto-format. The editor preferences are few and reasonably simple. Auto-format is easily turned on and then even more easily controlled with the Ctrl-Shift-F keystroke. This is the option whereby the wrapping automatically puts itself right. I've given up using autoformat (or was it justify on wrap?), because it deletes the paragraph marks, and it's too much trouble to hit enter twice at the end of each paragraph. Not really - it's just something to get used to. It greatly improves plain-text legibility and is a habit worth cultivating. It may sound like no big deal, but when you spend all day typing in programs that wrap automatically, it just doesn't come naturally. The default is to autowrap, but not to auto re-wrap. As is often said here, the editor takes some getting used to but the majority find it a task worth undertaking. There's a noisy minority that will leap in and say It's horrible, an abomination, get rid of it, I hate it, but the consensus remains - try to get used to it. It's a great little editor once you get to know it, capable of many things that lesser editors just can't handle, and *so* well suited for the task at hand. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - think ... freely- http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y/RjOeQkq5KdzaARApeqAKCRyDZiB3NgDQqjQ4vgV/Yk+byq/wCfeNFl 0kXM/1ux+Gdwtvc1I5jR2Lg= =z8T1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On 08 February 2002 at 10:48:25 -0500 (which was 15:48 where I live) David Denton wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am finding the TB! editor is growing on me to the point that, after a month or so of using it, I wish I could configure my other text editors and word processors so they worked in the same manner. Exactly! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - let the thoughts flow http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y/MQOeQkq5KdzaARAkN/AJsGYnS6HdZNC8fgj4NCN2piPSQ6NwCfS6I+ 2UHi394TqKVvnIVY5eioyIQ= =2kRT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
On Friday, February 08, 2002, at 16:09:37, Mary wrote about: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment) I have a shortcut to fentun in a desktop folder. The shortcut specifies Start in the same folder. I save my attachment to that folder, open the folder, drag the file onto fentun, extract the files and they are saved back into the same folder again, ready to use. Wow, that's really, really convenient! Thank you *very much* for that Howto. Where do you want to go today :- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Use a high end editor (like Multi Edit, Slick Edit, etc) and see if you feel the same way! The number one feature that distinguishes these are _configurability_ (keymapping, toolbar, etc) although TB wouldn't the need extension-specific configuration. TB is actually pretty good, but it would be nice to be able to remap the keyboard - and not just for the editor - so that one doesn't have to remember multiple ways to do the same thing (e.g., reformat paragraph, F5 for search, etc.) jon Friday, February 08, 2002, 10:48:25 AM, you wrote: Hello Mary, Friday, February 08, 2002, 9:48:07 AM, you wrote: MC I've given up using autoformat (or was it justify on wrap?), because MC it deletes the paragraph marks, and it's too much trouble to hit enter MC twice at the end of each paragraph. MC It may sound like no big deal, but when you spend all day typing in MC programs that wrap automatically, it just doesn't come naturally. I am finding the TB! editor is growing on me to the point that, after a month or so of using it, I wish I could configure my other text editors and word processors so they worked in the same manner. - Jonathan Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
On 08 February 2002 at 4:00 pm Jonathan wrote: Use a high end editor (like Multi Edit, Slick Edit, etc) and see if you feel the same way! The number one feature that distinguishes these are _configurability_ (keymapping, toolbar, etc) although TB wouldn't the need extension-specific configuration. TB is actually pretty good, but it would be nice to be able to remap the keyboard - and not just for the editor - so that one doesn't have to remember multiple ways to do the same thing (e.g., reformat paragraph, F5 for search, etc.) I think the problem is that TB!'s editor is deliberately _not_ like other editors in many ways. That doesn't mean that it's wrong, but the ubiquity of Microsoft applications (and copies of the way they do things) exerts enormous hidden pressure to always do things the same way. Something else useful for new users (and old users :) would be a button in Options | Editor Preferences to reset them to the defaults. It is _very easy_ to go away from the defaults and get completely confused ... (This is wish no.492 for those who want to look in the bugtracker). Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) Using Windows 95 and The Bat! 1.54 Beta/37 This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Importing Messages (Unix file)
I'm importing messages from another system into TB!. Mostly it has gone smoothly, using the Unix message format. However, the last files imported , when displayed in the TB! MESSAGE LIST, show almost all of the messages dated at the date/time of import, rather than the correct message creation date/time. When a single message is displayed in the MESSAGE VIEW, the timestamp is always: Sat, 30 Dec 1899 00:00:00 () An examination of the Unix file with a text editor shows the format to be correct, with the original date/timestamps in place. Further, the file imports correctly into several other programs which accept the Unix file format. Anyone know what's going on here? -- Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
AS I think the problem is that TB!'s editor is deliberately _not_ like AS other editors in many ways. That doesn't mean that it's wrong, but the AS ubiquity of Microsoft applications (and copies of the way they do AS things) exerts enormous hidden pressure to always do things the same AS way. Well, I use a lot of editors that are not related to Micorsoft and I don't think they all are trying to copy microsoft. Before I complain at all, maybe I should first make the comment that possibly I just have things set up wrong. Here's what I don't get: Scenario I - Auto-Format is Off. I go along and type up up stuff. Type some paragraphs hit return to start a new paragraph. Everything is fine. Then I have to go back add some text here and there and the text gets all messed up so I have hit Alt-L periodically to clear things up. This I find incredibly annoying, I'm sorry, you guys might like it but I'm sorry I don't like it. So the answer you say is use Auto-Format, which brings up scenario II. Secnario II - Auto-Format On. Well now when I go back and add text things wrap fine, so everything is great until I hit return/enter and it doesn't bring me to a new line. I just really must be missing something here. This has nothing to do with microsoft. I'm all for keeping the editor the way it is if there is a good reason for this behavior that I just don't get. And if there is a reason for this behavior this should be the exception to the norm and the option be to select this type of behavior. The bottom line is why is there a not an option so that I can type text have it wrap, be able to insert text and not have to use Alt-L to reformat, and be able to hit enter to generate a new line? This is simply intuitive and really has nothing to do with being conditioned or anything by using other editors. If I simply have The Bat! options configured wrong someone please let me know. Thanks Lots. _ Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Problems with Reply Template
I seem to have a problem with my reply template. When I try to reply
to a message, I get a double copy of the message text. See below for a
recent example.
The text of my reply template is:
Hello %OFromFName,
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS
On %ODATE at %SUBPATT=3GMT%SUBPATT=4 (which was %OTIME where I live) %OFROMNAME
wrote and made these points on the subject of %OSUBJ:
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SIGNATURE)|\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4
%Quotes
%Cursor
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Best regards,
%FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr
I don't know where I got it from. Maybe it was originally installed
with The Bat?
Many thanks for any help. At the moment it's really limiting my usage
of The Bat, and I find I'm still using Outlook Express for daily email
because of it.
regards,
Abraham Zablocki
Hello hifromroger,
On Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 16:22:42GMT - (which was 11:22 AM where I live)
hifromroger wrote and made these points on the subject of [eccopro] Using Net
Location:
h Does anyone know of a way to shoot a URL to a specific folder?
h The current view function works great, however I have to go to
h Ecco, open the net location folder and then go back to explorer and
h send it. I tried to select folders.. from shooter with no luck
h Ecco Rocks!
h Roger
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h Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
h Does anyone know of a way to shoot a URL to a specific folder?
h The current view function works great, however I have to go to
h Ecco, open the net location folder and then go back to explorer and
h send it. I tried to select folders.. from shooter with no luck
h Ecco Rocks!
h Roger
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h To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
h Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
1. Create a form with the folder(s) you want to shoot to.
2. Shoot - Add by Form
(You could also create a separate form for each folder that you want
to shoot to, if there aren't too many).
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Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
Following up my own message in this thread a few minutes ago: I'm importing messages from another system into TB!. Mostly it has gone smoothly, using the Unix message format. However, the last files imported , when displayed in the TB! MESSAGE LIST, show almost all of the messages dated at the date/time of import, rather than the correct message creation date/time. When a single message is displayed in the MESSAGE VIEW, the timestamp is always: Sat, 30 Dec 1899 00:00:00 () An examination of the Unix file with a text editor shows the format to be correct, with the original date/timestamps in place. Further, the file imports correctly into several other programs which accept the Unix file format. Anyone know what's going on here? It turns out that the time/date _is_ being imported into TB!. But it shows up under the 'Received' time/date, rather than under the 'Created' time/date. This seems strange. To me the creation time of the message is the original time/date when the message was sent, not the time it was created in TB!. Further, the strange 1899 date in the individual message headers remains unexplained. -- Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problems with Reply Template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi Abraham,
On 08 February 2002 at 10:09:32 -0500 (which was 15:09 where I live)
Abraham Zablocki wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I seem to have a problem with my reply template. When I try to reply
to a message, I get a double copy of the message text.
Yes, you would.
See below for a recent example.
The text of my reply template is:
Hello %OFromFName,
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS
On %ODATE at %SUBPATT=3GMT%SUBPATT=4 (which was %OTIME where I live)
%OFROMNAME wrote and made these points on the subject of %OSUBJ:
%quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-+ eGroups.*~-~.*-*_-$\s+){0,1}(^-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(- --\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP
^^^ first copy here.
SIGNATURE)|\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4
%Quotes
^^ second copy here.
%Cursor
You are getting what you have asked for. Remove the second %Quotes.
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Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, On 08 February 2002 at 11:47:00 -0500 (which was 16:47 where I live) Dave Goodman wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It turns out that the time/date _is_ being imported into TB!. But it shows up under the 'Received' time/date, rather than under the 'Created' time/date. This seems strange. To me the creation time of the message is the original time/date when the message was sent, not the time it was created in TB!. Further, the strange 1899 date in the individual message headers remains unexplained. Might the format of the date stamp in Date: header be slightly off? A sample would be good. Malformed (or nearly correctly formed) dates have been responsible for this kind of problem in the past. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - free time - from: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZATXOeQkq5KdzaARAvSGAKDJjWorElvdtgBAlGMjH1ArJ25rGwCdGpof sWfhL66/szytHDq4PutfMJE= =I3cZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerard, On 08 February 2002 at 15:44:04 +0100 (which was 14:44 where I live) Gerard de Vries wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One last question, the file I received as message.att turned out to be an excel spreadsheet. Why isn't it sent as an excel spreadsheet. Is it some form of compression? No - it's just a Microsoft proprietary attachment encoding method. MS to MS, it works fine. MS to anyone else? 3rd party decoder needed. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - better planning - at: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8Y+tMOeQkq5KdzaARAgRvAJ9RMAvbGjRcyWwo21qyMmijnHnukwCeNaum wEp3ORgMNkcIHJBcB/rUbFY= =wPdy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: slight problem when setting up groups (Mark?)
Hello Carsten, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 at 12:50:06 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:50 where I live) you wrote: CT Hi Rick, RR [...] Is there a way to move this main 'admin' privileges account RR into another group.??? CT why don't you just create a new empty admin account and add the old CT one to your group? That what I've done here and it work fine but I don't know if it can be change when the admin account is already defined - modifying the User depot\User#1 registry ?. -- Regards, Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Friday, February 08, 2002 12:12:27 PM RE: Beta Team Greetings Marck, On Friday, February 08, 2002, 9:06:25 AM, you wrote: Marck Subscribe to the discussion list here: Marck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did that already. Marck Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for Marck details (and download locations) of the current beta version on Marck http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Reports file not found. Am I missing something? Thanks. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Best file compression around: DEL *.* = 100% compression -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAPGQHjGaEPHoZkrdjAQFrnwgAgUpSSqhLglPKgnQ9czWx93Kd+d+aVWSu 4TocHN0QdgYW2R0FkPhhmKV83L3zgf6VuXuJPDvmAoeumFKTnwu2ChzusctFonU7 9nETd6uG2CFdxsndn2cpTmKCPBFSq13QIl86A/VGTsCct2mCtmJXeY2jTOAWUcFy Lkx0ZqKqEcl2HWjkAAxjCzShfq4kGQYKdWT51jKihtJZUEfXiHeHbwDq6RWDmoHw ZPStIvnmKpKDVAneWWDwJl2kE5vUYr8jJSqbZAVYc+UF+m+cRl6n8H6rDPY9AqMt KOHouLpHOCT3086hZSIsbA/zV+BQqwZGiBtv3/Yl46KpeSqx95411Q== =YQoi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Bounce messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Bat Fans, If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... ,- [ runbox bounce message sample ] | This message was created automatically by mail delivery software | (Exim). | | A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its | recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: | | pipe to |/local/RMM/mail-pipe -f Inbox `- ... please just delete them and ignore it. I have written to the runbox postmaster to complain - it's not our fault! OTOH, if you write to runbox too and demand that they configure their servers correctly, that wouldn't be a bad thing ... ;-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - a spare brain - from: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZAecOeQkq5KdzaARAghLAKC4ZT1WrNV+IfCMmX170bRLVoyYqACg5xp8 WKTH3JOLVUpp6yyeAldzlX4= =Xnug -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi DG, On 08 February 2002 at 12:15:10 -0500 (which was 17:15 where I live) DG Raftery Sr. wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marck Subscribe to the discussion list here: Marck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did that already. Then we should speak there, where a kind soul will be able to give you the URL to the beta. Marck Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for Marck details (and download locations) of the current beta version on Marck http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Reports file not found. Am I missing something? What, the URL? 'tis there. No problem. Try again. Or do you mean the beta .rar file? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - brain extension - at: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZAk6OeQkq5KdzaARAuyfAJ9u709dSZRSIkzcAK1+YLfaMOyAZgCgwyZg qOlQxzqc/NlZH6sAqJITkKQ= =epPN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problems with Reply Template
Hello Abraham Zablocki, On Friday, February 08 2002 at 07:09 AM PDT, you wrote: I seem to have a problem with my reply template. When I try to reply to a message, I get a double copy of the message text. See below for a recent example. I like the KISS principle... Why have all that RegEx stuff in there. Delete the Template and form a new one that you can understand... that we can all understand ;o)... and fiddle with to your own liking. TB is so powerful with all the macros that are available, that you shouldn't even need to use such a perplexing looking RegEx to do anything. ;o) -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Beta Team
Hello DG Raftery Sr., On Friday, February 08 2002 at 05:54 AM PDT, you wrote: How would one (a registered user of The_Bat! for a few years) become part of the beta team? What does the above have to do with the subject slight problem when setting up groups (Mark?)? Please, in the future try not to create a new message simply by changing the subject of a reply, because your new message becomes lost within an old thread and will be missed by many Readers who may have chosen not to read that thread. It's just good practice to create a brand new message when you change the Subject. :o) -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
ON Friday, February 08, 2002, 3:09:37 PM, you wrote: Mary 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive Mary text editor? You better stand back and take cover :( Mary Otherwise, I really like it :-) To late now ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. -- Maslow Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Microsoft attachment
Hello Marck, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:14:17 +GMT (8-2-2002, 16:14 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: One last question, the file I received as message.att turned out to be an excel spreadsheet. Why isn't it sent as an excel spreadsheet. Is it some form of compression? MDP No - it's just a Microsoft proprietary attachment encoding method. MDP MS to MS, it works fine. MS to anyone else? 3rd party decoder needed. Not MS to MS, OE (a real MS product) has problems with those attachments too. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
Hello Marck! On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 6:15:06 PM you wrote: ... please just delete them and ignore it. I have written to the runbox postmaster to complain - it's not our fault! OTOH, if you write to runbox too and demand that they configure their servers correctly, that wouldn't be a bad thing ... ;-). And I just wanted to start my private little war ... ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/37 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Gerard! On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 6:50:04 PM you wrote: Mary 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive Mary text editor? You better stand back and take cover :( Another of the good tips to follow: Look for the word editor in the archives: 1. It will answer the question in question. 2. You don't have to stand back ... 3. ... just take shelter, as you will get loads and loads of messages about the editor. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/37 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Erwarte von anderen nur, was Du selbst bereit bist zu geben. (Romy Walda) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
On Friday, February 8, 2002, 11:03:17 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: It turns out that the time/date _is_ being imported into TB!. But it shows up under the 'Received' time/date, rather than under the 'Created' time/date. This seems strange. To me the creation time of the message is the original time/date when the message was sent, not the time it was created in TB!. Further, the strange 1899 date in the individual message headers remains unexplained. Might the format of the date stamp in Date: header be slightly off? A sample would be good. Malformed (or nearly correctly formed) dates have been responsible for this kind of problem in the past. I just looked at some imports I did when I switched to TB!. They all show the correct created time, and all are marked received for when they were imported/received by TB! -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Thanks Marck, your explanations are really helping me better understand this ( even though I'm not totally getting the whole line return thing, but that's just my ignorance, I'll work on understanding it better ). Totally not related to the topic, but Marck, did you modify your reply template to have it set up to automatically generate it like: reply text here That is really cool, and I like it much better than how I was doing it where I would simply indent my response under the blocks of reply text. Your way looks much more clear. Also, stupid question I'm sure but when you made that bulleted list you simply used the letter o for the bullets and than spaced over for each bulleted point. My question I guess is being just a text editor there is no special formatting for creating bulleted lists is there? Thanks again. ORIGINAL THREAD BELOW: On Friday, February 08, 2002, 12:17:55 PM, Marck wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi Rick, MDP On 08 February 2002 at 11:31:39 -0500 (which was 16:31 where I live) MDP Rick Reumann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Secnario II - Auto-Format On. Well now when I go back and add text things wrap fine, so everything is great until I hit return/enter and it doesn't bring me to a new line. MDP You need two new lines. Since this is plain text, the only way to MDP delimit two distinct paragraphs is by have a clear, blank line between MDP them. The bottom line is why is there a not an option so that I can type text have it wrap, be able to insert text and not have to use Alt-L to reformat, and be able to hit enter to generate a new line? MDP Because a single new line doesn't denote a new pargraph. Sometimes I MDP want to type a bullet list so I have to turn Auto-Format off. There's MDP a control key combo for that - it's simple enough to remember - MDP Ctrl-Shift-F. MDP o Typing paragraph data?Turn it on. MDP o Typing lists? Turn it off. MDP o Amending a paragraph? Turn it on. If I simply have The Bat! options configured wrong someone please let me know. Thanks Lots. MDP It's not that you have it configured wrong - just that you are MDP expecting too much of a plain text format. Plain text only has hard MDP returns, no soft returns. Auto format is about moving the hard returns MDP around so that the text better fits the given margins. Where should it MDP stop moving hard returns? When it gets to a paragraph break. What does MDP one of those look like? A completely blank line. It is logical, but MDP not intuitive thanks to expectations brought about by editors which MDP handle soft returns. MDP It has been suggested in the past that the TB programmers implement MDP some system of soft returns. I've always felt that to be dangerous. At MDP least with the present system, what we type is what will be sent. No MDP behind-the-scenes formatting for us TB users - oh no! ;-). MDP FWIW, the TB editor *does* follow a standard. It's a very old one. MDP It's based on the old MS-DOS SideKick editor, which itself drew from MDP the old WordStar standard. These standards are still in use in most MDP Borland IDE editors (with tweaks and additions). -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for 'better treatment'? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth you'd probably be able to get a lot of free games. -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Moving an admin account to a user group
Sorry to post this again but it was contained in a different thread so maybe some didn't see it. I'm wondering if it's possible to allow a new group defined under network administration to be able to use the default account that was initially set up for the administrator. I've tried create a new boguz Admin account but this still doesn't fee up the initial one created to be allowed access by a group. The situation is that I realized as the admin that I'd like to make a group just for myself where I'd only see my accounts and not those of my groups. The problem is I can't seem to get access to the main account that I use as the admin. The only solution I can think of is to totally recreate this account including all the folders, filters, etc. This will be a real pain in the butt but I'll do it that way if there is no other solution. I don't mind tweaking with the registry if someone knows what I could mess with. Thanks for any help with this. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way. -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
IMAP4 settings and Exchange Server
Hello Bat Users, I am trying to connect to a M$ Exchange server with The Bat. The password to the mailbox is the NT login name and password. (The mailbox username is different from the NT login name). Is it possible to connect to Exchange under these conditions ? -- TIA, Nancy -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: IMAP4 settings and Exchange Server
Hello Nancy, On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 8:24:41 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): NH I am trying to connect to a M$ Exchange server with The Bat. The NH password to the mailbox is the NT login name and password. (The NH mailbox username is different from the NT login name). NH Is it possible to connect to Exchange under these conditions ? If IMAP-Server accepts plain text logins there should be no problem. The Bat! don't care about your NT-UserName (regarding to MailBox-access), so you can enter the login data freely in The Bat! account settings. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Life is wasted on the living. - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: ISO settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:44:08 +0100GMT (which was 08.02.02, 10:44 +0100GMT where I live), Peter Palmreuther wrote this and more about ISO settings: PP As soon as you used the accent TB! recognized it can't sent the PP mail with 'us-ascii' and for what ever reason it changed the PP charset to Latin-9. Setting manually to 'Latin-1' before sending PP should solve the problem until a more sophisticated solution is PP found :-) Thank you Pit, so it's a beta issue, isn't it? - -- Cheers Peter Winamp currently playing: Brooks Dunn - Nothin About You -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication :-) iQA/AwUBPGQgbAM2UgbhB3TOEQLJ1gCg5kuK5RcBqccCcanpRkMGcvLU1SYAnjle qqaJQMhm6BZWAQgI7PBnVtQ4 =BoyW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: ISO settings
Hi Peter, PP As soon as you used the accent TB! recognized it can't sent the PP mail with 'us-ascii' and for what ever reason it changed the PP charset to Latin-9. Setting manually to 'Latin-1' before sending PP should solve the problem until a more sophisticated solution is PP found :-) PM Thank you Pit, so it's a beta issue, isn't it? Yes, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on the beta list. -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/38) Business Windows 2000 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP4 settings and Exchange Server
Hello Peter, Friday, February 08, 2002, 2:36:36 PM, you wrote: PP If IMAP-Server accepts plain text logins there should be no problem. PP The Bat! don't care about your NT-UserName (regarding to PP MailBox-access), so you can enter the login data freely in The Bat! PP account settings. Thanks for your answer but I am afraid I still don't understand. When login to the server, I need to tell it: my mailbox name (I put this under user box) my NT login name my NT password When I configure the connection to the server, there is only two boxes (user and password). My question is: Is there a way of sending the three different informations into the two boxes ? -- TIA, Nancy -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Jonathan! On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 5:00:16 PM you wrote: Use a high end editor (like Multi Edit, Slick Edit, etc) and see if you feel the same way! The number one feature that distinguishes these are _configurability_ (keymapping, toolbar, etc) although TB wouldn't the need extension-specific configuration. 1. I am with you on the key mapping ... but, what the h*** does it have to do with the editor? 2. As for the editors you mention, they are for other purposes than TB!'s editor. I do really like Word - and there is no arguing that it is an editor - but don't want TB!'s editor to behave like it (editorwise). -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/37 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Paying for movies is like paying for sex - if it's free it feels better. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
archive request a feature request
hi.. could anyone send (redirect) me the thread starting with email id [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? thread is dated as 30 January 2002 / 23:07. subject: Removing lines in bodies of incoming mail i clicked on park but it only parked first message not the whole thread :( may be this could be a new feature ? there can be an icon which parks whole thread including future messages :) thanks in advance.. -- . Can Burak Çilingir ... 08.02.2002@15:31 ... Ref#nyc174B7AF3 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
Hello Marck, 08. februar 2002, 18:15:06, you wrote: MDP If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... How can they bounce the messages half a year after they were sent? :) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] If it tastes good, you can't have it. If it tastes awful, you'd better clean your plate. -- Old Children's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Rick, 08. februar 2002, 19:46:48, you wrote: reply text here RR That is really cool, and I like it much better than how I was doing it RR where I would simply indent my response under the blocks of reply RR text. Your way looks much more clear. This happened because your original text was indented AFAIK :) You could however achieve this with some QTs. Only problem is, that they only work in 1.54 (1.53 crashes if you try to use them)... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] 1. The value of a program is proportional to the weight of its output. 2. Undetectable errors are infinite in variety, in contrast to detectable errors, which by definition are limited. -- Hind's Laws of Computer Programming -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rick, On 08 February 2002 at 11:31:39 -0500 (which was 16:31 where I live) Rick Reumann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Secnario II - Auto-Format On. Well now when I go back and add text things wrap fine, so everything is great until I hit return/enter and it doesn't bring me to a new line. You need two new lines. Since this is plain text, the only way to delimit two distinct paragraphs is by have a clear, blank line between them. The bottom line is why is there a not an option so that I can type text have it wrap, be able to insert text and not have to use Alt-L to reformat, and be able to hit enter to generate a new line? Because a single new line doesn't denote a new pargraph. Sometimes I want to type a bullet list so I have to turn Auto-Format off. There's a control key combo for that - it's simple enough to remember - Ctrl-Shift-F. o Typing paragraph data?Turn it on. o Typing lists? Turn it off. o Amending a paragraph? Turn it on. If I simply have The Bat! options configured wrong someone please let me know. Thanks Lots. It's not that you have it configured wrong - just that you are expecting too much of a plain text format. Plain text only has hard returns, no soft returns. Auto format is about moving the hard returns around so that the text better fits the given margins. Where should it stop moving hard returns? When it gets to a paragraph break. What does one of those look like? A completely blank line. It is logical, but not intuitive thanks to expectations brought about by editors which handle soft returns. It has been suggested in the past that the TB programmers implement some system of soft returns. I've always felt that to be dangerous. At least with the present system, what we type is what will be sent. No behind-the-scenes formatting for us TB users - oh no! ;-). FWIW, the TB editor *does* follow a standard. It's a very old one. It's based on the old MS-DOS SideKick editor, which itself drew from the old WordStar standard. These standards are still in use in most Borland IDE editors (with tweaks and additions). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - let the thoughts flow http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZAhEOeQkq5KdzaARAgNXAKClg/mDCklvH0XscYQ05bEtEbEoagCfS8wR 9kVvCgbS2JWOi7qgXCeP0wk= =FZnJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: archive request a feature request
Hello Can, 08. februar 2002, 21:53:36, you wrote: CB may be this could be a new feature ? there can be an icon which parks CB whole thread including future messages :) I second that, IMO it should work this way: if the thread is closed and you park/flag the 1st message, all underlying messages should get parked, too... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] If you're coasting, you're going downhill. -- Pierson's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
Hello Jernej, On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 9:54:47 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MDP If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... JS How can they bounce the messages half a year after they were sent? :) With a crap of mail server configuration, and maybe 'playing with re-queuing messages' one can ... it's stupid, but possible. It no more stupid than bouncing the message to 'From:' instead of 'Return-Path:' :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Out of Memory/Grid index out of range
Hi Alain On Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 09:09:51GMT +0100 (which was 2:09 AM where I live) Alain de Gevigney wrote and made these points on the subject of Out of Memory/Grid index out of range: Do you check your index files (.Tbi) ? A sign of a corrupt index can be an error when trying to backup, in this case try to delete it and restart The Bat!. This may have been it. I went in and deleted all the tbi files and haven't had problems since then so hope that was it. Thanks. -- Best regards, Kitty ^,,^mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. -- Abraham Lincoln -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: IMAP4 settings and Exchange Server
On 08 February 2002 at 20:31 Nancy wrote: When I configure the connection to the server, there is only two boxes (user and password). My question is: Is there a way of sending the three different informations into the two boxes ? Aha, this suddenly came to me because my work situation is similar :) It's possible that the configuration should be set as: user name = mailbox\user password = password or mail server = mailbox.walshautomation.com user name = user password = password as I've seen both. However, your system people are going to have to tell you this as there seem to be many (almost random) ways of setting these things up. Alastair -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Beta Team
Hello Nick! On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 6:48:04 PM you wrote: It's just good practice to create a brand new message when you change the Subject. :o) Considering the number of new messages with wrong or missing subjects I've seen in the last time (not just her), maybe we should rephrase this to: It is good practice to start a NEW message when starting a New message. Hmmm, bad day ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/37 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C One thing about the past. It's likely to last. (Ogden Nash) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might the format of the date stamp in Date: header be slightly off? A sample would be good. Malformed (or nearly correctly formed) dates have been responsible for this kind of problem in the past. I just looked at some imports I did when I switched to TB!. They all show the correct created time, and all are marked received for when they were imported/received by TB! Yes, but that only applies to the ones that worked. The set that hasn't worked may have a different format of date header... again, a sample would be nice... Thanks to Marck and Dwight for your replies. Sorry to have been tardy with samples; I've been offline all afternoon. I now see what's happening, though I don't have a solution yet. The problem is that the Unix message file exported by my former MUA (Forte Agent v1.8) does not include an actual 'Date:' header at all _if_ the message was one that originated with Agent. For example, here is an actual header from a message sent by me using Agent: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 29 15:58:39 2002 From: Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [stripped for privacy] Subject: Re: Congratulations Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Note that the customary Unix 'From' line, including the timestamp, starts the message, but there is no formal 'Date:' header. By contrast, here is a header from a message sent by me using TB!: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 8 11:30:36 2002 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:30:36 -0500 From: Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Importing Messages (Unix file) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This peculiar behavior of Agent occurs only with messages originating from Agent, making it impossible to import my Agent 'Sent' folder into TB!. All other folders import perfectly. Well, I'll have to consult the authorities in an Agent forum. Still, any thoughts would be welcome. -- Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
Repost of previous. Apparently TB! didn't like the headers embedded in the message and broke it into three parts. Headers are now quoted. Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might the format of the date stamp in Date: header be slightly off? A sample would be good. Malformed (or nearly correctly formed) dates have been responsible for this kind of problem in the past. I just looked at some imports I did when I switched to TB!. They all show the correct created time, and all are marked received for when they were imported/received by TB! Yes, but that only applies to the ones that worked. The set that hasn't worked may have a different format of date header... again, a sample would be nice... Thanks to Marck and Dwight for your replies. Sorry to have been tardy with samples; I've been offline all afternoon. I now see what's happening, though I don't have a solution yet. The problem is that the Unix message file exported by my former MUA (Forte Agent v1.8) does not include an actual 'Date:' header at all _if_ the message was one that originated with Agent. For example, here is an actual header from a message sent by me using Agent: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 29 15:58:39 2002 From: Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Congratulations Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Note that the customary Unix 'From' line, including the timestamp, starts the message, but there is no formal 'Date:' header. By contrast, here is a header from a message sent by me using TB!: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 8 11:30:36 2002 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:30:36 -0500 From: Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Importing Messages (Unix file) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This peculiar behavior of Agent occurs only with messages originating from Agent, making it impossible to import my Agent 'Sent' folder into TB!. All other folders import perfectly. Well, I'll have to consult the authorities in an Agent forum. Still, any thoughts would be welcome. -- Dave Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list
Hi Marck, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:17:55 +, you wrote: Well now when I go back and add text things wrap fine, so everything is great until I hit return/enter and it doesn't bring me to a new line. You need two new lines. Since this is plain text, the only way to delimit two distinct paragraphs is by have a clear, blank line between them. Sorry but you are wrong ;-) if you are in TB!s editor the text is _not_ plain text, its some binary data in the PCs memory. I see _no_ reason why it should not possibly to have soft and hard line breaks. Every other plain text editor i know do it also, only the one in TB! does it not. So what's wrong with: You type your mail and TB! do on the fly soft line breaks at the 72 column (or whatever you set in options), if you hit enter the editor to do an hard line break. Then if the mail are send TB! could turn all soft line break to hard line breaks. The way the editor now work are simply crazy (_not_ IMHO) and I am do not know any other editor that do such stupid thinks. Because a single new line doesn't denote a new pargraph. Sometimes I want to type a bullet list so I have to turn Auto-Format off. There's a control key combo for that - it's simple enough to remember - Ctrl-Shift-F. o Typing paragraph data?Turn it on. o Typing lists? Turn it off. o Amending a paragraph? Turn it on. Well with an real editor its also possible to write normal text and bullet list without always switch the options. expecting too much of a plain text format. Plain text only has hard And again, how does the editor handle the stuff internally are not related to the output text format. For Example even in an Plain text mail TB! show me different colors for the quoted text (yes its possible because internally you do not use plain text) :-) It has been suggested in the past that the TB programmers implement some system of soft returns. I've always felt that to be dangerous. At Well i noticed no dangerous thinks with my other plain text editors. least with the present system, what we type is what will be sent. No behind-the-scenes formatting for us TB users - oh no! ;-). There are no behind the user formatting with soft returns. Only the convert from soft to hard. But the user see this while writing. FWIW, the TB editor *does* follow a standard. It's a very old one. *ROTFL* Not an bug or missing feature only an old standard. It's based on the old MS-DOS SideKick editor, which itself drew from the old WordStar standard. These standards are still in use in most Borland IDE editors (with tweaks and additions). Well in an IDE editor you need other features as in an editor for email. In programming you does no wan't line breaks at 72 chars. And BTW i not buy my P200 to work with the same editor an 8086 system have used because of its limited power. SCNR, Dirk -- Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 (S/N 12A1F196 / Educational) under Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: archive request a feature request
Hi Jernej, Friday, February 08, 2002, 4:08:13 PM, you wrote: JS Hello Can, JS 08. februar 2002, 21:53:36, you wrote: CB may be this could be a new feature ? there can be an icon which parks CB whole thread including future messages :) JS I second that, IMO it should work this way: if the thread is closed JS and you park/flag the 1st message, all underlying messages should get JS parked, too... I believe it does work this way. If you right click on the closed thread you will see a thread option, go a click on Park...it will park the entire thread. -- Best Regards, Ravi Reply Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever. - Gandhi Holy Bat! Mail!...This message created on The Bat! version 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: archive request a feature request
JS I second that, IMO it should work this way: if the thread is JS closed and you park/flag the 1st message, all underlying messages JS should get parked, too... no it does not work just by clicking the icon. you have to use thread menu.. but it does not give the option to park the future messages.. -- . Can Burak Cilingir ... 09.02.2002@02:03 ... Ref#nycE5CE992B _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: archive request a feature request
Hello Ravi, Saturday, February 09, 2002, 10:58:15 AM, in reply, when it was said that: RJ Hi Jernej, RJ Friday, February 08, 2002, 4:08:13 PM, you wrote: JS Hello Can, JS 08. februar 2002, 21:53:36, you wrote: CB may be this could be a new feature ? there can be an icon which parks CB whole thread including future messages :) JS I second that, IMO it should work this way: if the thread is closed JS and you park/flag the 1st message, all underlying messages should get JS parked, too... RJ I believe it does work this way. If you right click on the closed thread you will see a thread option, go a click on RJ Park...it will park the entire thread. Either open or closed thread! -- Best regards, Henrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: IMAP4 settings and Exchange Server
Hello Nancy, On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 9:31:41 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): NH Thanks for your answer but I am afraid I still don't understand. NH When login to the server, I need to tell it: NH my mailbox name (I put this under user box) NH my NT login name NH my NT password NH When I configure the connection to the server, there is only two boxes NH (user and password). My question is: Is there a way of sending the NH three different informations into the two boxes ? From your explanations I guess 'mailbox name' is the folder name your mail resists in. From RFC I know for sure IMAP-server only need username and password to log you in, so one of these two: 'mailbox name' 'NT login name' is the 'real' username, the other have to be something special or even proprietary. As our Exchange-Server does not allow plain text logins I can't check this out, so you'll have to ask your sys-admin what's the 'Username' and what's the 'Password' for _logging in_. But don't expect too much from IMAP capabilities The Bat! offers, they're still far from being finished, but more _very_ rudimentary. A better POP3 replacement from point of current implementation. This shall change in next versions, but implementing SSL took precedence for several reasons. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Power, n: The only narcotic regulated by the SEC instead of the FDA. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dwight, On 08 February 2002 at 12:37:23 -0600 (which was 18:37 where I live) Dwight A Corrin wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Might the format of the date stamp in Date: header be slightly off? A sample would be good. Malformed (or nearly correctly formed) dates have been responsible for this kind of problem in the past. I just looked at some imports I did when I switched to TB!. They all show the correct created time, and all are marked received for when they were imported/received by TB! Yes, but that only applies to the ones that worked. The set that hasn't worked may have a different format of date header... again, a sample would be nice... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - let the thoughts flow http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZECtOeQkq5KdzaARAgpeAJ9I+qpr5TOew+2VetJGtB9aRaKSXgCgjJFI vKb9jJd2Cm8Fi5UEMZN6Dr4= =8vf+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jernej, On 08 February 2002 at 21:54:47 +0100 (which was 20:54 where I live) Jernej Simonèiè wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... How can they bounce the messages half a year after they were sent? :) That's ISPs for you! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - mind power - at: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZELnOeQkq5KdzaARApI5AKDvVyAKq30SoKDbNjiTu+OYdWUaHQCdFkX5 sAi4I3+vXO2vR6BCHzFF7yQ= =IL/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Hello Jonathan, 08. februar 2002, 22:28:31, you wrote: snip JW TB's Shift-F7 and Ctrl-F7 are like nothing else I've seen. I find JW them quite awkward (in general I prefer one handed keyboard short JW cuts.) Look at Norton Commander's (and it's clones') editor :) JW 2) Reformatting a paragraph. I like Ctrl-R (although in ME, it's much more handy JW in that it will reformat the paragraph and the cursor will then move to the next JW one.) I do see the logic in TB's mapping for it, but again I'd like to be JW consistent between editors. Bat uses Alt+L for left, Alt+R for right, Alt+J for justify and Alt+C for center... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] The length of any meeting is inversely proportional to the length of the agenda for that meeting. -- McLaughlin's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Sorting messages
Hi everybody, I would like to ask you a question from which I have not find an answer yet. I know how to sort (or view threads by) sender and I also know how to sort messages by received or creation time but the thing I would like to do is the following : arrange messages alphabetically andsort this result chronogically as we can do with ms outlook express or outlook 2000/2002. And I would like to tell you about a strange thing about time sorting : I don't understand why when we sort messages by received time or creation time, messages are sorted descending by default whereas the descending order option is not checked; and so we have to peculiarly check this option to have them sorted correctly. -- Best regards, Claude mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: IMAP4 settings and Exchange Server
Hey Nancy, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.53d) Educational to write the following on Friday, February 08, 2002 at 3:31:41 PM. NH Hello Peter, NH Friday, February 08, 2002, 2:36:36 PM, you wrote: PP If IMAP-Server accepts plain text logins there should be no problem. PP The Bat! don't care about your NT-UserName (regarding to PP MailBox-access), so you can enter the login data freely in The Bat! PP account settings. NH Thanks for your answer but I am afraid I still don't understand. NH When login to the server, I need to tell it: NH my mailbox name (I put this under user box) NH my NT login name NH my NT password NH When I configure the connection to the server, there is only two boxes NH (user and password). My question is: Is there a way of sending the NH three different informations into the two boxes ? I have used TB IMAP4 to get mail from an M$ Exchange 5.5 Server, and only gave it the mailbox name and password. Have you tried it? Are your mailbox and login ID's different? Domain/AD? What ver of Exch? Did you try POP3 (you may not like TB's current IMAP implementation, I haven't found it to be better than POP...)? Have you asked your Exch Admin's how to IMAP or POP you mail? They would probably have better answers. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.53d (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) What does this red button do? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rick, On 08 February 2002 at 13:46:48 -0500 (which was 18:46 where I live) Rick Reumann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] reply text here That is really cool, and I like it much better than how I was doing it where I would simply indent my response under the blocks of reply text. Your way looks much more clear. Nah - it was as Pit said - just that your original text was indented when I quoted it. ... My question I guess is being just a text editor there is no special formatting for creating bulleted lists is there? No there wasn't. It was as simple as 'o' and TAB (which, on the second line, lines up with the indent on the first, etc.). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - a spare brain - from: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZIPWOeQkq5KdzaARAsWEAKCXqFWvoz4VQDkfLxJm9gkYB42xQgCeLEgz 69j+7uYL19PiqsdkE1AeaW4= =3MAA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Beta Team
Hello Marck You wrote On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, at 14:06:25 [GMT +] (01:06 Australian Eastern Time,Saturday): Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for details (and download locations) of the current beta version on http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Shouldn't the URL be http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html ? -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Bat! 1.54 Beta/34 Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On 09 February 2002 at 13:57:29 +1100 (which was 02:57 where I live) John Phillips wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for details (and download locations) of the current beta version on http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Shouldn't the URL be http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html ? That's the URL of the RITlabs beta page. It's not as up to date as the TBBETA message archive, the URL I gave. Also, the RIT beta page gives no details of the contents of the beta versions. The TBBETA archive has all release notes. I gave the URL of the TBBETA archive. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - Brain power - from http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZJOQOeQkq5KdzaARAs3xAKCThaHdLPwXU+PcpFxstBGNh+dpJQCgqwEW ky6wcKuz8K7wAwil3aFdsXc= =1nxw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Are you a winner? (not spam)
Hello fellow Bat! fans. From the Bat! web site:- Note. You can win $10,000 and a Sony DVD Player by just recommending The Bat! to a friend who does not use The Bat! yet Anybody ever win? (cynical mode turned on, I guess) -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Bat! 1.54 Beta/34 Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Friday, February 08, 2002 11:33:54 PM RE: Beta Team Greetings Marck, On Friday, February 8, 2002, 12:22:00 PM, you wrote: Marck Then we should speak there, where a kind soul will be able to give you Marck the URL to the beta. Thanks. I am subscribed to the mailing list and have bookmarked the beta forum. Marck Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for Marck details (and download locations) of the current beta version on Marck http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Found it and found my error (see below). Marck What, the URL? 'tis there. No problem. Try again. Or do you mean the Marck beta .rar file? Got the beta v1.54 build 38 and am now running it. The problem was the URL for the beta, in the messages I found, pointed to http://www.ritlabs.com and further to their FTP site. Once I entered the URL for their FTP site alone I browsed the directory and got the newest beta version. Again, thanks for your help. Look forward to testing (and commenting on g) a product that I registered a few years ago, in it's infancy, and have been extremely happy since. My thoughts are that it is the most powerful e-mail program I have ever used (and believe me I have tried them all!) and co-exists extremely well with my Win2k and XP boxes here. Thanks again for you help. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. For any problem there is a solution that is simple, quick, and ultimately worse than the problem. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAPGSpJGaEPHoZkrdjAQEC8AgAn12N87Kjw96aCk96fz19k86i310jwKPf 8T71ngtCp9j98BTCBIK3pb0OpaP5SLDGJIBgjNemRg+h8OcUhkWrfLW22HDDfV2C 0rC23wUuZvJwRdXYvHRLZ65ah6mAGAmJlizbDu7rUTUEcFJtZUZDjKU47ZG/t79b ThXHsnA+o4loz3HS4025XLEyVO3KvH3m/TnYEzE33JKTSc+IjUkmGHfqjRestk4e eB6swZ+jupKaJeDz11Cf5gqoTm5Kr1CZVOhyhJmjQmUVnel5dnzJsEJJaP5FadwN acF7GDCz8gYb6t0YpTomc0e0XMvW/UI6X5JTs/XteP2KOSbEaA/SLQ== =6H/d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Beta Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Friday, February 08, 2002 11:49:28 PM RE: Beta Team Greetings Nick, On Friday, February 8, 2002, 12:48:04 PM, you wrote: Nick What does the above have to do with the subject slight problem when Nick setting up groups (Mark?)? Please, in the future try not to create a Nick new message simply by changing the subject of a reply, because your new Nick message becomes lost within an old thread and will be missed by many Nick Readers who may have chosen not to read that thread. Nick It's just good practice to create a brand new message when you change Nick the Subject. :o) My fault entirely as I had subscribed to the mailing list and completely forgot that the messages I receive are part of a threaded forum and replies, even though it appears to be an e-mail type forum, are received and threaded to a discussion group. My fault entirely and again, thank you for pointing out my mistake. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. How an engineer writes a program: Start by debugging an empty file... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAPGSrXWaEPHoZkrdjAQGkVggAqzWEiWEoRgWmHjfKZ+4oLTtanFoTbsXX hm29Dxa1bho+RykRiPAbTRv3x3AQ1ZT2ej/ddPS2d7ZyL2CR+CHthFDRIAEUfMM5 C3uuKbYLuNQ2Thp26f9NYWMGxRI/hT+0M3G0xj3dLJGSoTsRTO55XgahzTezNvj9 JeqYRO6ml4mcTbgJuL92/DxaRmysKcxr+ZTj0nJJX3/9cIylL6D+8Lp+pY4lHmKp lVDjkoO/swD/0rJTmFbmYpFhcekPyxK9Lr+4vO39zZkAIn/uhZG2tkZmZxlBXL+b kP3yMSfHqC765CyijgiutSfu7jQ/YCGx+NlafbQ9dJiz20c+qWr4mA== =PmOR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Messages (Unix file)
On Friday, February 8, 2002, 3:18:36 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I just looked at some imports I did when I switched to TB!. They all show the correct created time, and all are marked received for when they were imported/received by TB! Yes, but that only applies to the ones that worked. The set that hasn't worked may have a different format of date header... again, a sample would be nice... Not tracking I guess, what exactly do you want a sample of? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
focussing on folder
I've set up a batch file to open up my wife's user account to the Bat. I'm trying to get it so it will open up on her inbox since that's what she want's. Since I'm in all different folders when I'm using The Bat, and don't have her account on my user account, The Bat! doesn't remember to stay on her inbox. I've been trying to get the command to work to focus on her inbox but the helpfile example isn't helping much. What I have so far is: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /NOLOGO /FOCUSU=rachel;F=[EMAIL PROTECTED]\Inbox I've tried the last F:... part so many ways but nothing seems to work. I've tried it as F=rachel F=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox F=[EMAIL PROTECTED] F=Inbox What is that I'm doing wrong? This is the last piece in my multi-user set up:) I've finally managed to get the network administration of groups all working (with a LOT of trial and error..the help is REALLY weak in this area). Suffice it to see, now that it's all working, The Bat handles multiple users very well... it just 'aint very intuitive to set up:) I have a macro program (PerfectKeyboard) with nice macros so with the hit of F12 the batch file is run and wholla..The Bat! is all ready to go with my wife's accounts all there. Same thing for my brother's except a different hot key. If anyone can help getting this focus thing set up, I'd appreciate it. I'm almost there with the perfect setup. Later, -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.' -Jack Handey -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
