Re: Delete filter bug?
ON Friday, November 1, 2002, 10:07:55 PM, you wrote: L If, in your filter, on the advaced tab you enable message is not L flagged and then flag the message before reading and hit delete, it doesn't get L filtered. Hi Luc, I have filters using the message is not flagged functions but the whole function doesn't seem to work. Does it work for you? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I know I am getting better at golf because I am hitting fewer spectators. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %ACCOUNT macro in personal template
ON Saturday, November 2, 2002, 9:56:41 PM, you wrote: DW And now it gets even more weird - it appears to be working now even DW when I use the toolbar button or Ctrl-N. I haven't changed *anything* DW about it since - oh, Wednesday? Thursday? - and it didn't work DW yesterday - but now it does! DW Maybe I'm just losing my mind...though I don't think so, because I DW think that went years ago Hi Deborah, I just used my paranormal powers to change your setup. Nothing to worry about, you're not losing you're mind ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Golf does strange things to other people too. It makes liars out of honest men, cheats out of altruists, cowards out of brave men, and fools out of everybody. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Export All Messages AddressBook to MS Outlook/ Eudora ?
Hello, Thank You! For your reply. Im *very* satisfied with TB, the reason why I asked this question: We use MS Outlook at work, me TB at home and my parents use Eudora. So I must easily switch between the 3. MDP TB has the ability to export message is various formats, including MDP .msg files. Outlook is able to import these. TB is able to export MDP the contact information in vCard format. Again, Outlook is able to MDP import these. Eudora may be able to import Unix style mailboxes, MDP another of TB's export formats. DDV Help will be appreciated. MDP You may need it. I recommend a good counselor for anyone seriously MDP contemplating a move away from TB to either Outlook or Eudora ;-). Kind Regards, Lennie De Villiers 03 Nov 2002 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorry for the OT but ....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, November 03, 2002 8:17:31 AM RE: Sorry for the OT but Greetings, All of a sudden I am receiving nothing from TBOT. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Sorry Mr./Mrs. Moderators however I can't post to TBOT to ask this question. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Melted fruit snacks found on Keyboard. Delete nephew [Y/N]? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPcUicWGmTEg4iItaEQKQEQCgrj1KWEZZm1sXnYg9WVpb+b4q/moAoP4J McSWJzkhAoTNPq3Mru+jmfJ0 =XsVp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorry for the OT but ....
Hi DG, on Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:19:56 -0500GMT (03.11.02, 14:19 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:145772801.20021103081956;myrealbox.com : DRS All of a sudden I am receiving nothing from TBOT. Anyone else DRS experiencing this problem? DRS Sorry Mr./Mrs. Moderators however I can't post to TBOT to ask this DRS question. The last message I received on TBOT was created yesterday, 16:37 GMT. Were there any later postings? What happens when you try to post to TBOT? -- Cheers Peter And always remember that it's bad style to start a sentence with a conjunction! Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorry for the OT but ....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:145772801.20021103081956;myrealbox.com, Dg Raftery Sr. [DRS] wrote:' DRS All of a sudden I am receiving nothing from TBOT. Anyone else DRS experiencing this problem? DRS Sorry Mr./Mrs. Moderators however I can't post to TBOT to ask DRS this question. A bounce may have been placed on your e-mail address. If you are a yahoo member, then you could look at your bounce history by logging into your yahoogroups preferences http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs and clicking the bounce history link for your subscription address. If you're not a yahoo member, then send me your subscription address off-list and let me see what I can find out about your subscription. CC the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in case I'm away when you send your message. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta7 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.65 iD8DBQE9xSieV8nrYCsHF+IRAqocAKDVduhcniVXAeqjNCPd4oYI45C7twCeJwuw /2wq3Zs5RuJUpYWJul4mnP0= =13y1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorry for the OT but ....
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 08:19:56 -0500 GMT (which was 14:19 local time), DG Raftery Sr. wrote: DRS All of a sudden I am receiving nothing from TBOT. Anyone else DRS experiencing this problem? The last message I received from tbot is dated Sun, 3 Nov 2002 03:03:59 +0700. DRS Sorry Mr./Mrs. Moderators however I can't post to TBOT to ask this DRS question. Why can't you post to tbot? If you're subscribed you should also be able to post.. -- Gruß, Andremailto:chenoa;ananzi.co.za Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sorry about the top-post
Hello, Thomas: Thank you very much. Your instructions were very clear -- and I broke new ground today creating a special TBUDL Reply template that guards against inadvertent top-posting. Here it is, from TBUDL in my address book: Hello, %OFromFName: Best regards, %FromFName Best wishes, David Sunday, November 03, 2002, 12:58:40 AM, you wrote: TF Hello David, TF On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:30:20 -0500 GMT (02/11/02, 19:30 +0700 GMT), TF David R. Austen wrote: This suggests I might want to create a special procedure for all replies to messages on this list. TF If you do not use any special AB templates (and do not create folder TF templates, which should be used in special circumstandes only), TB TF will use the account templates. These contain the cut mark (a.k.a. TF signature delimiter) already, so you don't really need to do anything TF if you don't want to. Please, where do I start? TF What I did, I created an addressbook entry for this list. TF Addressbook icon / Create a new contact icon. TF I filled in only two fields on the first tab: TF Display name as: TBUDL TF Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TF (no quote marks, in both cases). TF This is how you create a new entry. Now you want to create a special TF template for replying to this list. You go to the Reply tab (still in TF the addressbook), click opn [x] Use a specific and put your TF template in there. It is blank now, so to start with, you can cp your TF account template into it. TF The account's reply template you'll find under Account / Properties / TF Templates (click on the +) / Reply. (I know. This is a Bat101 question of course. I should know better. Just a couple of quick hints on strategy, please.) TF The above should give you an idea. This is list is Bat101. Please TF advise if you have further questions. Best regards, David http://zillionbucks.com -- Web hosting for the creative industry Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorry about the top-post
Hello David! On Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 5:39:09 PM you wrote: the template below Let`s refine that a little bit ((comments in double breaks)): Hello, %OFromFName: ((^ Why that?)) %QUOTES ((that puts the message you reply to in your reply)) %CURSOR ((putting you one line beneath the quoted material)) ((don`t forget to manually edit the citation)) -- ((this is two dashes then a space followed by a Return)) Best regards, %FromFName -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:Dierk.Haasis;Write4U.de?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.62/Beta6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Das 11. Gebot: Du solltest vertrauen auf Deines Nachbarn Dummheit. (Aleks Papst) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sorry about the top-post
Hello Dierk, Sunday, November 3, 2002, 10:52:24 AM, you wrote: DH Hello David! DH the template below DH Let`s refine that a little bit ((comments in double breaks)): Hello, %OFromFName: DH ((^ Why that?)) DH %QUOTES ((that puts the message you reply to in your reply)) DH %CURSOR ((putting you one line beneath the quoted material)) DH ((don`t forget to manually edit the citation)) DH -- ((this is two dashes then a space followed by a Return)) Best regards, %FromFName This is a big help to me, too, Dierk. And so much more concisely done than my long Reply post to David. Which really didn't give him much help--just told him he needed it, I guess. :) And so did I. Thanks. -- Best regards, Marymailto:mrbull;premiernet.net The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
My server requires authentication for smtp, but does not allow cram-md5. (I assume that is a type of authentication.) I do not have MD5 checked under transport, but nonetheless in the log I can see that TB is trying to use 'software' cram-md5 authentication. Bottom line, I am unable to send emails, I get this: Message has not been sent. Server reply - sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) It is not a server problem, because I can send emails with pocomail, OE, etc. I hope there is some setting that I haven't found in TB that will allow me to use authentication (not pop before smtp) but not use cram-md5. Does anyone know if I can do this? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi John,
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 12:54 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop
CRAM-MD5?:
J essage has not been sent. Server reply - sorry, that domain isn't in my
J list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
this sounds like a qmail server.
J It is not a server problem, because I can send emails with pocomail,
J OE, etc. I hope there is some setting that I haven't found in TB
J that will allow me to use authentication (not pop before smtp) but
J not use cram-md5.
Try just plain SMTP auth..account/properties/transport/SMTP
authentication, then click perform SMTP auth check use settings of mail
retrieval. Uncheck Require MD5, and do *not* check on the bottom Pop
before SMTP
--
Best regards,
Gary
The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat.
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Message list and attachments
Hello, I have an address list of 55 people and, the last time I sent a message with an attachment, 55 individual mail attachments were sent along with 55 individual messages after I had used the Mass mailing using template option to invoke a quick template. I can't remember this happening before but maybe it's because I was actually watching the send time this last blink. Apart from using a BCC (which then does not allow for the personal hello that the Quick Template allows) how do I stop the attachment being sent 55 times. Fortunately it was only a small one this time :-) -- Best regards, Richard mailto:rwakeford;cix.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Try just plain SMTP auth..account/properties/transport/SMTP authentication, then click perform SMTP auth check use settings of mail retrieval. Uncheck Require MD5, and do *not* check on the bottom Pop before SMTP I have done all that- that is the problem- I can't see how to actually stop it from doing the cram check- it does it even if you don't check that box- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi John, On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 2:12 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop CRAM-MD5?: Try just plain SMTP auth..account/properties/transport/SMTP authentication, then click perform SMTP auth check use settings of mail retrieval. Uncheck Require MD5, and do *not* check on the bottom Pop before SMTP J I have done all that- that is the problem- I can't see how to J actually stop it from doing the cram check- it does it even if you J don't check that box- Did you double check also on the transport POP auth (Receive Mail) to see that MD5 was not checked? Also the account/properties/transport panel was okay and set to regular. -- Best regards, Gary The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Did you double check also on the transport POP auth (Receive Mail) to see that MD5 was not checked? Also the account/properties/transport panel was okay and set to regular. Yes, did all of that. Any other ideas? TB is set to automatically use cram if it can, even if you don't check the box. For some reason, my server must look like it accepts cram checks, even though it doesn't. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi John, On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 2:30 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop CRAM-MD5?: J Yes, did all of that. Any other ideas? TB is set to automatically J use cram if it can, even if you don't check the box. Fresh out of ideas, except what version of TB! did you try this with? TB! by default, is not set for MD5 auth. J For some reason, my server must look like it accepts cram checks, even J though it doesn't. No, TB! does not automatically change from just plain delivery to an SMTP auth if the server looks like it accepts them. There is no protocol for this automatic change. This has to be changed manually in TB! the qmail server is giving you this error: Message has not been sent. Server reply - sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Maybe it is just something as simple as a typo in your email setup for your domain. I use TB! on my mail server with qmail with several domains without a hitch. -- Best regards, Gary The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hello John, My server requires authentication for smtp, but does not allow cram-md5. (I assume that is a type of authentication.) I do not have MD5 checked under transport, but nonetheless in the log I can see that TB is trying to use 'software' cram-md5 authentication. From TB's Help: ,- [ SMTP Authentication ] | | Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the | server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses | the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is | off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take | place. | `- It may be that TB thinks your server supports MD% and it is forcing it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AV Tagline
Hello Melissa, Sunday, November 3, 2002, 5:35:22 AM, you wrote: MR -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MR Hash: SHA1 MR On Saturday, November 02, 2002, at 2:57:51 PM PDT, Tom Sadler wrote: I'm currently using NOD32 as my AV scanner, and I'd like to put a tagline in all outgoing mail to the effect that the mail has been scanned by NOD32, version such and such. MR This is what AVG does, and personally, I don't think it's a very MR useful feature. I see it mainly as a way for AVG to get some free MR advertising space in email being sent out. LOL ... and those that shout the loudest have less to shout about perhaps ? MR Seeing a tag claiming that someone else's AV has scanned the email MR I receive means nothing to me. I depend only on my own careful MR practices and the AV/AT of my own choosing (I happen to use NOD32 MR as well). Same here, seeing the line 'This message scanned by 'X' AV' only brings about a 'So what ??' comment ! MR Furthermore...such tags can be easily spoofed, so anyone feeling more MR secure because they see something like that may well be feeling a MR false sense of security. What if a virus was written to append each MR email it sends out with a scanned by... tag? Yep, the first thing a virus writer does is to make you think their offering isn't a virus cf the Klez Cleaner that states it is necessary to turn off your AV before activation ( and then infects you with Klez ) .. must have been a good few caught out with that one :-( MR The only way for anyone to feel secure is to first trust *their own* MR careful practices/good judgement, software choices and configurations, MR and finally the AV/AT software they run and maintain themselves. Agreed - we know our Kaspersky scans all outgoing mail but what matters most to *us* is that incoming mail is scanned, as it should be for whomever our e-mail is sent to :-) As for getting NOD32 to insert such a tag line pass lol -- Best regards, Barry2 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi Gary, On Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 14:47:15 [GMT -0600], you wrote: J For some reason, my server must look like it accepts cram checks, J even though it doesn't. G No, TB! does not automatically change from just plain delivery to an SMTP G auth if the server looks like it accepts them. There is no protocol for G this automatic change. This has to be changed manually in TB! Well, you are right that TB! doesn't just try SMTP-AUTH without the user telling it to do so. But when SMTP-AUTH is activated, TB! always uses the most secure authentication method available on the server. Sending plain text passwords isn't really secure. :-) So, if John's server reports the ability of CRAM-MD5 authentication, TB! will (try to) use it, no matter whether Require secure (MD5) authentication is checked or not. Of course this fails if the server incorrectly reported CRAM-MD5 as a possible authentication. Unfortunately, the only person who can do something about it is the administrator of the mail server. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject)
G Fresh out of ideas, except what version of TB! did you try this with? TB! G by default, is not set for MD5 auth. V 1.61 G No, TB! does not automatically change from just plain delivery to an SMTP G auth if the server looks like it accepts them. There is no protocol for G this automatic change. This has to be changed manually in TB! From the help file: Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take place. Plus, as I watch the log at the bottom of the screen as it is checking mail, it says 'authenticating software cram-md5' So I hope there is a way too force TB NOT to use md5, even when it thinks it is available. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message list and attachments
Hello Richard, Apart from using a BCC (which then does not allow for the personal hello that the Quick Template allows) how do I stop the attachment being sent 55 times. Fortunately it was only a small one this time :-) Although I have never used it myself, I believe the idea of Mass mailing using template is to generate individual messages so you can personalise the e-mail and will send a separate message to each member of your list. If the message includes an attachment it will be send along with each message, in your case 55 times. If you want to only send the attachment once you will have to include the 55 addresses in the TO, CC or BCC fields. But then you can't personalise the message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi Miguel, On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 3:01 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop CRAM-MD5?: M ,- [ SMTP Authentication ] M | M | Once connected to an SMTP server, The Bat! checks which of the M | server's RFC-2554-authentication mechanisms is available, and chooses M | the most secure. Even when Require secure (MD5) authentication is M | off, if the server does supports it, secure authentication will take M | place. M | M `- Now that is interesting... I don't remember TB! doing that before ... (long ago).. For reference, qmail does not support auth or MD5 auth, or POP before SMTP, or SMTP before POP, in its basic installation. One must add additional packages and actually build them into qmail. -- Best regards, Gary Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
G Now that is interesting... I don't remember TB! doing that before ... G (long ago).. G For reference, qmail does not support auth or MD5 auth, or POP before G SMTP, or SMTP before POP, in its basic installation. One must add G additional packages and actually build them into qmail. If that is the case, then I wonder why it is trying to use md5? My server claims that they do not support it- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message list and attachments
Hello Miguel, Sun, 3 Nov 2002 at 22:10:26[GMT +0100](21:10 where I live) you wrote in mid:7035679314.20021103221026;ermspain.com : MAU If the message includes an attachment it will be send MAU along with each message, in your case 55 times. If you want to only MAU send the attachment once you will have to include the 55 addresses in MAU the TO, CC or BCC fields. But then you can't personalise the message. I thought as much :-( Well, it's going to have to be BCC for the big attachments but I do have ADSL so, if I'm prepared to wait whilst they are all sent, it will be OK. Thanks. -- Best regards, Richard You are never given a wish without being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however. Richard Bach The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 2 and Opera. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi Lars, On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 3:03 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop CRAM-MD5?: L So, if John's server reports the ability of CRAM-MD5 authentication, L TB! will (try to) use it, no matter whether Require secure (MD5) L authentication is checked or not. Of course this fails if the server L incorrectly reported CRAM-MD5 as a possible authentication. Yes, makes sense Lars. L Unfortunately, the only person who can do something about it is the L administrator of the mail server. I agree... See if he patched his qmail server for auth. It is a strange problem... Thanks. -- Best regards, Gary I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi John, On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 3:14 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop CRAM-MD5?: G For reference, qmail does not support auth or MD5 auth, or POP before G SMTP, or SMTP before POP, in its basic installation. One must add G additional packages and actually build them into qmail. J If that is the case, then I wonder why it is trying to use md5? My J server claims that they do not support it- This is what I thought.. I believe you have cable. They don't usually support auth, cable companies that is.. Can you call tech support and ask them why you are getting the 5.7.1. error, or more specifically the Server reply - sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) They can check their logs. -- Best regards, Gary Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
G This is what I thought.. I believe you have cable. They don't usually G support auth, cable companies that is.. G Can you call tech support and ask them why you are getting the 5.7.1. G error, or more specifically the G Server reply - sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts G (#5.7.1) G They can check their logs. Well, I do have cable, but this problem isn't with the cable server, it is with fatcow.com I had this problem with pocomail, but there was a setting in the ini file to disable md5. I was hoping there was a similar setting somewhere with TB, apparently not. I guess I'll just have to hope that fatcow will patch their server (very unlikely) or I'll have to give up TB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with from / to Eudora Pro
Friday, November 1, 2002, 11:54:51 AM, you wrote: LL Just downloaded The Bat 1.61 and noticed it does convert *from* Eudora LL (Though converting the other Eudora account will be tricky, its not in LL Qualcomm/Eudora.) but to be truthful I am out of work at the moment. If I LL like The Bat but don't have the 40$ to register it I'd have to go back to LL Eudora Pro until such time I could afford it. I don't support piracy, LL piracy is why a lot of our software is so expensive, the programers trying LL to recover from the losses due to piracy. I'll have to poke and prod around LL but how do I convert back to Eudora Pro if necessity forces me to? Thank LL you for your time. Just trust in TB. Should work out Ok. If you get stuck anytime, a message board and a mailing list are here anytime. Don't use too many working mailboxes, one advice. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't stop CRAM-MD5?
Hi John, On Sunday, November 3, 2002, 3:49 PM, you put forth, in part, about Can't stop CRAM-MD5?: J I had this problem with pocomail, but there was a setting in the ini J file to disable md5. I was hoping there was a similar setting J somewhere with TB, apparently not. Not that I am aware of, but maybe some of the TB! techies can answer if it can be done. J I guess I'll just have to hope that fatcow will patch their server J (very unlikely) or I'll have to give up TB. Well this adds another dimension to the equation. If you had trouble, as you indicated, now with 2 MUAs, initially pocomail, and now TB!, the problem is definitely with fatcow. I can tell you that they are not running a standard version of qmail, and have screwed it up somewhere, because a good installation of qmail will not allow this to happen.. someone down there does not know what he is doing. They certainly would be able to see the bounce in their logs, probably from a lot of MUAs. Of course, they could have inherited this from a former administrator, (just speculation) and not know it, but it definitely is not set up correctly. -- Best regards, Gary He who laughs last thinks slowest. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Tuning up: a standard template for replying to TBUDL posts
Hello, Dierk: Sunday, November 03, 2002, 11:52:24 AM, you wrote: DH Hello David! DH On Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 5:39:09 PM you wrote: DH the template below DH Let`s refine that a little bit ((comments in double breaks)): Hello, %OFromFName: DH ((^ Why that?)) DH %QUOTES ((that puts the message you reply to in your reply)) DH %CURSOR ((putting you one line beneath the quoted material)) DH ((don`t forget to manually edit the citation)) DH -- ((this is two dashes then a space followed by a Return)) Best regards, %FromFName I hope this is fine. Thank you very much for your able coaching. -- Best regards, David http://zillionbucks.com -- Web hosting for the creative industry Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorry about the top-post
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary, 3-Nov-2002, 12:38 -0600 (18:38 UK time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:16337465292.20021103123801;premiernet.net said: MB This is a big help to me, too, Dierk. And so much more concisely MB done than my long Reply post to David. Which really didn't give MB him much help--just told him he needed it, I guess. :) And so MB did I. Thanks. Here's another tip (and your cut mark works beautifully BTW)... Best regards, Marymailto:xxx I recommend that you remove the mailto link for all public postings. When postings are archived, your email address becomes exposed on web sites, making you easy prey for address harvest robots and increasing the amount of spam you get. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9xa5iOeQkq5KdzaARAjZ8AKCrF8s8CDFK6Qh5sNRRNy8pDAdMAwCgpC1R z8dD0oMsUGbiOFliChFKEDs= =SE8O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sorry about the top-post
Hello Marck, Sunday, November 3, 2002, 5:16:48 PM, you wrote: MDP Here's another tip (and your cut mark works beautifully BTW)... Thanks. Best regards, Marymailto:xxx MDP I recommend that you remove the mailto link for all public postings. MDP When postings are archived, your email address becomes exposed on MDP web sites, making you easy prey for address harvest robots and MDP increasing the amount of spam you get. Oh, thank you, Marck. I got so involved in being a programmer vbg that I didn't even notice that. When I was patiently deleting all that trash manually, I did take it out. I don't need another bout with the harvesters. Changed my address last June I was getting so much spam. Knew better. Will go and sin no more, and hope I don't get caught with any bad consequences. :) Cheers from long-winded, inattentive Mary, and -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sorry for the OT but ....
Hello Andre, Sunday, November 3, 2002, 1:46:19 PM, you wrote: AW Why can't you post to tbot? If you're subscribed you should also be AW able to post.. Maybe he means it's possible to post but since he doesn't get mail from TBOT he doesn't know if it gets there ?? Hopefully Allie will be able to sort it out :-) -- Best regards, Barry2 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Converting to IMAP and common folders
I have an account with about 9,000 messages. I would like to convert it to IMAP so that I can access them when I am away from my main computer. I have my own email server (ALT-N Mdaemon) so I can tell it what folders I want, but I do not know how to get my messages that exist in my POP3 account to go back to my server. If you have Linux, then Kmail also does IMAP. Also, I have common folders that all users in my office have access to. I would like to make those IMAP folders in order to check them while out as well. Try Becky, I think it recognized IMAP folders on the server? All in all though, I've not found an IMAP client I'm happy with yet. Kmail is good for sifting through messages though. Marcus Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV Tagline
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:199561318.20021103095751;tpg.com.au, Tom Sadler [TS] wrote:' TS I'm currently using NOD32 as my AV scanner, and I'd like to put TS a tagline in all outgoing mail to the effect that the mail has TS been scanned by NOD32, version such and such. The version TS displayed should be the current version that I have. I know the TS file NOD32.ver contains this information, but in line 6 or so of TS the file. Cookies therefore won't work. Will Regex achieve what TS I want to, or is there another way? Though I agree with the sentiments of those who have so far commented on your post, I decided to see if this could be done for my own edification and alas it can be done. TB! has amazed me yet again. Here's how you set it up: - - Create a quick template with the handle nod32. - - In it place the following text: %SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)^version=(.*?)\n%- %REGEXPMATCH=%Put='C:\Software\Nod32\nod32.ver' - - You'll need to change the path to in the second line of the regex macro to reflect the path to your NON32 installation directory. - - In your signature macro, you can now put: This message has been scanned using NOD32 v%Qinclude=nod32 Using the above regex macro, my current NOD32 version is 1.324 (20021030) Enjoy! But I don't really see the point in this since no security conscious person will trust this statement unless they run NOD32 and can vouch for its effectiveness as AV Software as well as confirm that you're running an updated version. Otherwise it will just fall on blank eyes. It's better to include the name and description of any attachment that you choose to send. This will make the recipient more comfortable that the file is being deliberately sent by you. This little exercise makes me realize that I can extract text from remote files defining the text in the remote file through the %Put macro. :) - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta7 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.65 iD8DBQE9xc3OV8nrYCsHF+IRAr2bAKD7cL0gcWOwOqGWnpmEGFANHwVGEACgynPk YXVu4AnGlmOoVcqTcsiXhsQ= =/PGG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AV Tagline
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gi'day Allie, Thanks to both yourself and Thomas Fernandez for the helpful replies. It's reassuring to see that some people can get past their personal pet hates and help. On Monday, 4 November 2002 at 20:30:56GMT -0500 (which was 12:30 PM where I live) Allie C Martin wrote:: ACM But I don't really see the point in this since no security ACM conscious person will trust this statement unless they run NOD32 ACM and can vouch for its effectiveness as AV Software as well as ACM confirm that you're running an updated version. Otherwise it will ACM just fall on blank eyes. I also agree fully with all the views expressed in the discussion. Neither do I trust those taglines, and ensure that my AV practices reflect that. I am constantly frustrated with the number of people who don't keep their s/w and signatures up to date. This is one of the main reasons I switched to TB!. I am also toying with the idea of adding a further tagline that indicates the prescence of a virus in the email(what's a good one - Bugbear?), just to drive home this message to email recipiants wicked grin. However, I was asked (for whatever reason) to add this to mail messages, and so have tried to comply. Thanks again, Allie and Thomas - -- Cheers, Tom A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems. ___ Proudly using The Bat! Version 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: THIS IS NOT A VIRUS OR OTHER NASTY!!! iQA/AwUBPcVG+eqOB7wBnLp5EQJUVgCgsGQtTTHR++S9JX4/lqeKdpJ05cAAnA+O eh8W5FlcSyMcOkoZKeLFbVK4 =BzML -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tuning up: a standard template for replying to TBUDL posts
Hello David, On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:41:31 -0500 GMT (04/11/02, 05:41 +0700 GMT), David R. Austen wrote: DH -- ((this is two dashes then a space followed by a Return)) Best regards, I hope this is fine. Thank you very much for your able coaching. -- Best regards, David It should be dashdashspaceenter. You left out the space at the end. To see the difference, hit the reply key on your message (everything below this cut mark is still copied into the reply) and mine (the reply is cut at the cut mark). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message list and attachments
Hello Richard, On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:21:01 + GMT (04/11/02, 04:21 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: MAU If the message includes an attachment it will be send MAU along with each message, in your case 55 times. If you want to only MAU send the attachment once you will have to include the 55 addresses in MAU the TO, CC or BCC fields. But then you can't personalise the message. I thought as much :-( Funny, I don't undersand your sentiment. Personalisation was the exact reason for the mass mailing feature. Please explain why this is not so good. Also, by using the mass mailing feature, you are instructing TB to send 55 individual mails. How can TB do that without attaching the file to each one? Well, it's going to have to be BCC for the big attachments but I do have ADSL so, if I'm prepared to wait whilst they are all sent, it will be OK. If you want to send the attachment only once, why is BCC is an option you would want to chose? How else do you want to send only one message to 55 recipients? I am asking because I am not quite sure what it is that you really want to do: Either you want to send individual messages (in which case each message needs the attachments seperately, and in which case also the mail will be personalised), or you want to send only one message (so that yu send the attachment only once, but that means all 55 recipients must be listed in the TO, CC or BCC field). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Warum hatte Bach so viele Kinder, Kant jedoch kein einziges? - Weil Bach sich auf die Kunst der Fuge verstand, waehrend Kant nur das Ding an sich betrachtet hat. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Switcher
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:52:59 +0700 GMT (02/11/02, 10:52 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: I had to go to Options / Editor Prefs / Display / Font: change, and change the font manually to a Thai font in order to be able to read the message. Of course, after reading it, I had to switch the font back to Courier New. To expand on this, I had to change not only the font itself but also the font size. Is there a way to tell TB which font should be associated with a character set, so that an automatic switching takes place? There isn't. My workaround is this: As I usually use the PTV only, I went to Options / Preferences / Viewer and chose RTV. There I set up AngsualUPC (my favourite Thai font) and the size for the RTV. Switched back to PTV. Now, when a mail in Thai comes in, I only need to switch to the RTV; much easier that previously, I don't need to friggle with all these detailed settings. Why is the character set switched correctly in the subject line but not in the body? Question remains. How do other people on this list who read/write in English *and* a local language with non-Latin characters (like cyrillic or Greek) handle this? Do you use just one font, one that has both Latin and local characters, or is there an easy way to switch? Any takers for this question? (I don't like the looks of the English letters in the Thai font I use, so I don't want to use that font as standard for all mails.) This was true to DBThaiText, which I had to use in previous times, as it is a fixed-width font. But luckily, we are not restricted to fixed-width any more with RTV. Latin letters are displayed fine in AngsualUPC, but I just prefer plaintext and Courier New for normal mails. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Si le travail c'est l'opium du peuple, alors je ne veux pas finir drogué...[ Boris Vian ] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message list and attachments
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:30:24 +0700 GMT (04/11/02, 12:30 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: If you want to send the attachment only once, why is BCC is an option you would want to chose? Typo. Why is BCC *not* an option -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT [ Message list and attachments]
Hello Thomas, More than slightly Off Topic reply here, to you: Sunday, November 3, 2002, 11:30:24 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Richard, And then you appended this sig: Warum hatte Bach so viele Kinder, Kant jedoch kein einziges? - Weil Bach sich auf die Kunst der Fuge verstand, waehrend Kant nur das Ding an sich betrachtet hat. Rofl. Und so wieder ... What a neat reversal! Tranlate for the list? Or, I guess, take it to tbot. -- Mary The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
