Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hi Bat! Fans, Notice the one line of wasted space above? I have macros set up - why do they insert this line of space(some macros insert three lines), and how to automatically stop them? TIA -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Press any key to continue or any other key to quit Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hello I wrote On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, at19:25:00 [GMT +1100] (19:25:00 Wednesday, 25 December 2002 where I live):- ...about the waste of a line or two... Sorry, I should have said above the salutation Apologies for any confusion caused. How to stop it? -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail Spam ~not~ welcome! Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hi John, on Wed, 25 Dec 2002 19:25:00 +1100GMT (25.12.02, 09:25 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JP I have macros set up - why do they insert this line of space(some JP macros insert three lines), and how to automatically stop them? You can avoid this by adding %- to the macro. Example: instead of %macro1 %macro2 etc. make it%macro1%- %macro2%- etc. -- Cheers Peter Live simply so that others may simply live. Mohandas Gandhi Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hi Peter, On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, at 09:37:04 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:37 where I live) you wrote: You can avoid this by adding %- to the macro. Example: instead of %macro1 %macro2 etc. make it%macro1%- %macro2%- As I understand this,a %- is to be added to ~each~ of the macros above which a line of space is wasted? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Faith: Belief on insufficient evidence. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!
Hello Victor! On Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 2:28:12 AM you wrote: Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... Scheduling: Concur. Full-blown calendar: No. I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should be somewhat a standard for mail clients. It was said his will come via plug-in with v2. I'd prefer TB stays an e-mail client. News is much more than mail and there are at least two good news clients on the market (Gravity and Agent, even Free Agent is very good). I also think that mailing lists and Web fori steadily replace Usenet. Extract information from the body and sort to address book or to file. Isn't that possible with RegEx? Reply without using default reply address but templates reply address. I may misunderstand this, but isn't that what AB templates (perhaps in conjunction with QTs) are for? A full quick template window instead of the fixed size. Concur. Instead of one button for all macros it should be much like the file menu aligned along the top for all macro categories. Concur. And it should be able to access *all* macros. Sorting office filters window should not be a fixed size window. Concur. More options in the sense of one filter with check box options for read, replied, etc... Hm, that is all in there, just, the usability concept is another one than yours. Happy Holidays :) Concur. Alright: Merry Christmas to all! -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Second Marriage: Another instance of the triumph of hope over experience. (Samuel Johnson) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hi John, on Wed, 25 Dec 2002 19:41:25 +1100GMT (25.12.02, 09:41 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : You can avoid this by adding %- to the macro. JP As I understand this,a %- is to be added to ~each~ of the macros JP above which a line of space is wasted? The %- avoids a new line feed. The macros are treated as if they were typed in one line. Maybe I can give a more concrete example: Hi %OFromFName, %Language=AM %SingleRe %QuoteStyle=i %Cursor will add three empty lines, whereas Hi %OFromFName, %Language=AM%- %SingleRe%- %QuoteStyle=i%- %Cursor will not. -- Cheers Peter If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush... Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hello John! On Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 9:41:25 AM you wrote: As I understand this,a %- is to be added to ~each~ of the macros above which a line of space is wasted? Yes, this specific macro tells TB to not insert a line break. You could also put all your macros at the end of the message; just be sure to have any macro that attaches a file before the macro typing out attachments. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 I think the idea of art is killing creativity. (Douglas Adams) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk, Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... DH Scheduling: Concur. DH Full-blown calendar: No. You weren't the only one to disagree with a calendar being a part of The Bat! and every one is entitled to their opinion without argument but it is just that I see it differently. I do not want a calendar to simply be a part of the client for non e-mail task management purposes or because most major players already incorporate one. My life revolves around e-mail, scheduling, reminders, broadcast, etc and I would surely appreciate a client which can ease the work for me by removing a lot of the redundancy. I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should be somewhat a standard for mail clients. DH It was said his will come via plug-in with v2. DH I'd prefer TB stays an e-mail client. News is much more than mail and DH there are at least two good news clients on the market (Gravity and DH Agent, even Free Agent is very good). I was completely use to participating in newsgroups using clients like outlook and Mozilla and I have grown to expect such features without question. For me personally I respect newsgroups and if they never die neither then will my participation in them. Combining the two made it easy to copy, paste and/or forward good and critical information when necessary. I still use Mozillas Calendar and e-mail/newsgroup client to stay on top of scheduling and knowledge trades. Extract information from the body and sort to address book or to file. DH Isn't that possible with RegEx? Not like I am thinking about it. Did you ever code and along the left side of your editor theres a number for every line? I collect information using on-line forms and the information sent to my e-mail is the same every time. line 13: Users IP line 14: First Name line 15: etc line 16: referrers address I would like to say to the bat if this message matches this filter then extract, line 13, line 14 and line 15 and reply with a certain address (not my default) and e-mail line 16. I can imagine RegEx has the features but I am no geek and I am not stupid but little by little I am sure the bat team can add more usability filtering and macros. Reply without using default reply address but templates reply address. DH I may misunderstand this, but isn't that what AB templates (perhaps in DH conjunction with QTs) are for? The Bat is awesome and does have some major player features but what I am asking for I guess is account or alias creation on the fly. My default account is ooo but if a message sent to my inbox is for xxx then reply with xxx. I am really happy you concurred with everything else :) The above are my opinions and my opinions alone. The Bat! is awesome but I found out early that loyalty can kill you. The second a newer and better application comes along I ride the wave out until a better one surfaces. No one pays me to stick around so if I have to pay I will keep an open mind with my head up :) Just another opinion :) Merry Christmas Happy Holidays Everyone! - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgmBFV3LB35+TCg0EQJDTQCeJ9mvuv7J+i7P4QNADPY/+NTNFgsAn0Yo RGCvvfcJRoxeLUS3f87PWMVJ =SbhO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!
Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... In preferences, you can remember birthdays by clicking Inform about birthdays using address book data. henk www.voelspriet.nl -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do i get my messages in Verdana?
Hello from Holland and Merry Christmas, How do I get my messages in Verdana? I can change my folders into this lettertype, but not in Editor Preferences. Henk Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do i get my messages in Verdana?
Hallo Henk, On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 12:20:44 +0100GMT (25-12-02, 12:20 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: HvE How do I get my messages in Verdana? I can change my folders into this HvE lettertype, but not in Editor Preferences. Use the Rich Text Viewer (Options - Preferences - Viewer) Then you can view messages with Verdana. You can't use it in the editor, might be because it's not a fixed width font, but I'm not sure about that. BTW You started your question as an answer to another thread. That's not the best thing to do for the following reason. The Bat is able to thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time). They might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. This is not not meant to criticize you, but only to help you appreciate the options TB offers and to be able to get more effect out of your efforts. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do i get my messages in Verdana?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:'
RO Use the Rich Text Viewer (Options - Preferences - Viewer) Then
RO you can view messages with Verdana. You can't use it in the
RO editor, might be because it's not a fixed width font, but I'm
RO not sure about that.
You're correct. It's not a fixed width font.
In the editor settings, only the fixed width fonts on your system
are displayed.
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Re[2]: How do i get my messages in Verdana?
Dear Roelof Otten, How do I get my messages in Verdana? I can change my folders into this lettertype, but not in Editor Preferences. Use the Rich Text Viewer (Options - Preferences - Viewer) Then you can view messages with Verdana. You can't use it in the editor, might be because it's not a fixed width font, but I'm not sure about that. Thanks! But how do I get the entries in the message pane in Verdana? So the From: To: Subject: etc.. part -- Verdana, but how? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do i get my messages in Verdana?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Henk Van Ess [HVE] wrote:'
HVE Thanks! But how do I get the entries in the message pane in Verdana?
HVE So the From: To: Subject: etc.. part -- Verdana, but how?
Options/Message List Colours Fonts.
Hit the 'Font' button on the initial popup config panel.
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Re: Wasted space inserted by macros.
Hi Peter, On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, at 10:10:49 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:10 where I live) you wrote: Maybe I can give a more concrete example: Thanks for your help, and thanks to other replies as well! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Lye, Cheetham, and Steele: Attorneys at Law Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to browse in 200 filters?
Dear all, I have over 200 filters in The Bat. I'm trying to find a quick way to navigate through all the filters. Any suggestions? -- Henkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to browse in 200 filters?
Hallo Henk, On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:59:26 +0100GMT (25-12-02, 16:59 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: HvE I have over 200 filters in The Bat. I'm trying to find a quick way to HvE navigate through all the filters. Any suggestions? Best way is to give them meaningful names. Also it's best to limit your filters as much as possible. When you want to do two things with messages that meet the same set of conditions, try to do that with one filter. When you want to apply the same action to multiple conditions, enter those alternate conditions on the alternate tab. When you're filtering groups of senders in the same folder, make use of address book groups, that makes maintenance of your filters easier too. BTW You're starting a new thread again by replying to a message in another thread, look in your own message for the References header, than you'll see it for yourself. I explained in a previous message to you why that isn't a good idea. Read it again in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (supposing you don't delete messages after reading them), it's really quite annoying to find new messages in a thread about another topic. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AW: The Bat FREEZES again!
Hello, Great, I've just installed bat 1.49 and it FREEZED again. Doesen't matter which version you use, it's gonna freeze sooner or later. Now I think I really wasted my money for that program I though it would be the onliest one, which is worth paying for. But the worst thing is that I liked the program a lot but it's just impossible to work on a computer with such stuff happening. Best regards Lazar -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Adam Gesendet: Montag, 23. Dezember 2002 15:46 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: The Bat FREEZES again! Hello nenad, Sunday, December 22, 2002, 7:45:33 PM, you wrote: n I also completely REINSTALLED my Windows XP (without SP1) and I n didn't install any other software besides Bat. After I started The n Bat, it ran for some hours and then BANG, the freezing was there n again. n I haven't had such problems with prior versions of Bat (1.5...) It n really seems to be something about the new version 1.6.. n Thanx a lot for any suggestions. n I really don't want to keep using Outlook again. How about the obvious suggestion, run TB 1.5. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AW: The Bat FREEZES again!
Hello nenad! On Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 6:47:20 PM you wrote: Now I think I really wasted my money for that program I though it would be the onliest one, which is worth paying for. Did you ever contemplate that TB is not the culprit? Firstly TB never froze on me except once or twice in a very unstable beta about one and a half to two years ago. Neither on Win95 nor XP Home did it freeze. Secondly you have now tested different builds of TB which are programmed differently (even different languages) and it still freezes your comp? A problem that is not widespread. Perhaps something else on your system interferes. Like Zone Alarm, any firewall at all, some malware, a wrong system configuration. Just suggestions. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 If all men acted from enlightened self interest, the world would be a paradise in comparison to what it is. (Bertrand Russell) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Archived Folders
I'd like to do a bit of housecleaning of my folders. What I would like to do is move some e-mails out of The Bat! store so they are not part of my backups. But I may want to be able to search or review the old messages from time to time. I noticed that there is no automatic function to archive some messages or folders. Has anyone done this and/or have any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archived Folders
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Michael Rudnick [MR] wrote:'
MR I noticed that there is no automatic function to archive some
MR messages or folders. Has anyone done this and/or have any
MR suggestions?
You could create an archive account in which you store only old
messages. You could create manual filters to move messages older
than a certain age to be moved to folders in this archive account.
For external archiving, you could look into a 3rd party application
called Mailbag Assistant http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.html.
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Bat FREEZING maybe solved!
Hello, I think I have figured out why the bat has that FREEZE phenomenon. I run bat on my laptop which goes in internet via a MS-Proxy server (at work) and via Internet Sharing (at home). So I told the proxy server (and Internet Sharing settings in XP) to forward all incoming traffic for POP3 and SMTP ports directly to my laptop. And look at the bat now! It's running more than 10 hours without any freeze or anything else. Dooes somebody of the guys which also had the freezer-bat go directly to the internet without any routing between the modem and computer? I wonder if all of us who has the freeze goes through a sharing, indirectly. I think the bat needs to be adressed back from the SMTP/POP3-Server directly via the 25/110 ports and this can't be done if your machine is behind a internet sharing or proxy server. Best regards Lazar. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
Hello Jonathan Angliss, On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:29:46 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 11:29:46 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jonathan Angliss wrote: Just as a curious question... why do your replies have a *huge* gap between the hello stuff, and the reply message? This email I'm replying to was 1/2 way down the screen before it go to the original post, and on 1024x768 resolution, that is a fair chunk. Sorry. ended up back in hospital as my foot needed a skingraft as old skin didnt regroww properly. No idea yet if the new skin from my leg is doing any better . Anyway reading weeks of mail and obviously not answering all but this one caught my attention since it was adressed to me.. Ok, I tend in programming to leave empty lines between blocks of code and this is clearly the wrong thing to do in the bats 'forms' as an empty line in there ends up being an empty line in the answer... Several expressions and other stuff and you have an extra 6 lines Thanks, I will revamp all of them! -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.62/Beta7 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
