Why did I get a bunch of weird posts?
Just downloaded my email, got 28 emails which arrived in the tbudl folder. They don't show a to or from or subject in the message list, but they do show these items in the headers. They're all dated 30/12/1999. Okay, even stranger. I've deleted them, now they're in the Trash folder - and now they show today's date. It seems that TB has somehow processed them wrong when they got to me. Any explanations? -- Deborah Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reading Receipt
Hello Greg, Interesting your folder template gets more response than my initial inquiry on the magic confirmation receipt. Its is not that one issue gets more attention than another one. It is me who gets more attention than you. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reading Receipt
Hello MAU, Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:09:08 AM, MAU wrote: Interesting your folder template gets more response than my initial inquiry on the magic confirmation receipt. M Its is not that one issue gets more attention than another one. It is me M who gets more attention than you. ;-) ROTFLMAO!!! And deservedly so. At least some things don't change over the years. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Is there any attachment manager?
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 2:23:06 AM, you wrote: Does The Bat! have any attachment manager? TF What do you mean? You can attach file by using the attach icon. No, What I mean is a program which can manage/extract attachment files from received mails. for example, Advanced Attachments Processor (AAP) is a powerful attachment manager: http://mailutilities.com/aap/ AAP is very good, but it's too expensive. so I want to know whether TB has a built-in attachment processor or there is another 3rd-party software. -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 Windows 2000 (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any attachment manager?
Hello drifthat, On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:52:04 +0800 GMT (04/02/2004, 22:52 +0700 GMT), drifthat wrote: TF What do you mean? You can attach file by using the attach icon. No, What I mean is a program which can manage/extract attachment files from received mails. Does this help you: Account / Properties / Files Directories / Attachments / Keep attachments in ... ? It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander for that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A chain is only as strong as its raw materials. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Chris, On 4 Feb 2004 at 00:11:48 -0500 GMT [06:11 CET] you wrote: On Tuesday, February 03, 2004, 9:55 PM, you wrote: C Somewhat random observation: C Since mailing lists are not one-to-one, you should consider using the C original sender's name and not the pronoun you. This can be C accomplished by replacing you in your template with C %O(FROM | REPLY)?NAME. Why? If the name is mentioned in the greeting there's no need to mention it again. It's already clear whose quotation that is. -- Cheers, Andre Wenn du meinst, die ganze Welt sei schlecht, dann bedenke, dass Leute wie du darin leben. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Chris, On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:40:39 -0500 GMT (04/02/2004, 10:40 +0700 GMT), Chris wrote: It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and not the top. Yes, the last cutline will be used. I don't think that is a problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Huhn mit 2 J. TUV und neuem Auspuff zu vergeben. * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Fernandez wrote: It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and not the top. Yes, the last cutline will be used. I don't think that is a problem. The main benefit occurs when replying to text in a list digest. Each message has a cutmark so if TB! worked with the first cutmark going from top to bottom you'd have fun trying to selectively quote any message text below the cutmark for the first message. The other problem is many, including myself, uses the rich text viewer and have signature text coloured etc. so that it's unobtrusive and therefore clearly viewed as signature text. If TB! worked with the first cut mark in a digest, it would colour *all* messages below the cutmark of the first digest message the same as signature text since the rest of the digest would be treated as a signature. - -- - -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys - http://pgp.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.2 iQA/AwUBQCEhfvfVJPYBByHcEQI/dACfQPcjOgowRcHEavS+TSnkhZA1FpwAnRlh Sm+CSxumIUK8ZO8ANfwVw6gQ =wZfI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any attachment manager?
Hello Thomas, Account / Properties / Files Directories / Attachments / Keep attachments in ... ? It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander for that. I have never tried the Keep attachments option to save in a directory. Does it automatically extract existing attachments or it will just be functional for new messages with attachments? Also, what happens if different attachments have the same file name? TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Andre, Why? If the name is mentioned in the greeting there's no need to mention it again. It's already clear whose quotation that is. Agree. And also there is threading :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any attachment manager?
Hello MAU, On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:55:46 +0100 GMT (04/02/2004, 23:55 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I have never tried the Keep attachments option to save in a directory. Does it automatically extract existing attachments or it will just be functional for new messages with attachments? Only for new messages. Also, what happens if different attachments have the same file name? A counter will be added: myword.doc, mywork1.doc, mywork2.doc... making it difficult to see from the attachments directory which file belongs to which message. One of the reasons why I store attachments in the message body and save them manually if necessary. I can change the name as well as the directory that way. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bruno Labbadia (Karlsruher SC): Das wird alles von den Medien hochsterilisiert. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Chris, Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 8:42:25 PM, you wrote: C What's up with the trouts? Are they in any way related to the C trouts that people get slapped with on IRC? The trouts predated even IRC. I used them when I ran a BBS in the mid 90s, and even then I picked up the trout habit from somewhere else (don't recall where). So, trouting has been around f'ever. I honestly can't remember where I first heard the term, but I know it predates the BBS boom. Anyone else know where it started? BTW, I took this to TBOT, so please reply there. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello Chris, Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 8:40:39 PM, you wrote: C It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and C not the top. That is correct, and as Marck alluded to earlier in this thread, the reason we do not include the cut line in the list footer. If we did, then the poster's cut line wouldn't cut. Hence the reason we ask people to include a cut line in their posts. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Pane Question
Hello TBUDL, This problem may not effect many people as much as me because I am reading messages at 800X600, but it is still a problem on larger screens. When the whole message does not appear in the message screen I tab into that box and then scroll down to read the rest of the message. In some messages, I think HTML, the cursor does not appear and the whole box scrolls immediately. In other messages, I think text, the cursor appears and has to scroll to the bottom of the page before any new text appears. Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse. Maybe an option. Maybe I'm alone on this. If I get any support I will continue with a new feature request with bugtraq, otherwise I will just hang my head in shame. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Chris, On Tuesday, February 3, 2004 at 11:09:09 PM, Mary R Bull wrote in the message cut-line RFC and client support mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Like moderators say when they act as such, please don't feel singled out Cris by what I am going to comment or ask you. Most things apply to many others on this and other TB lists. - Who cares about the date and time Mary Bull wrote her message? If I cared, I could always look it up in her message. Which in a threaded by reference view is right above yours. - And even more, who cares about which was your local time when Mary Bull wrote her message? I know you don't do this, but many others do. See why you don't have to feel singled out? - Why do you have to repeat that Mary Bull wrote the message you are replying to? I can see her message right above yours. - Why do you have to repeat the subject? I can see it in the Subject: of your message and in the Subject of all messages in the thread. - Who cares about Mary Bull's message ID number? Why do you include it before quoting what you want to quote? Does it help to something or someone? MID links may be useful when you refer to a message which is way up or down in the message list. But if I want to see Mary's message to re-read it, I can easily see it because it is just above your message. As I said Cris, please don't feel singled out. I just used you to ask the same questions to many others. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any attachment manager?
Hello Thomas, Only for new messages. That's what I feared. Darn! Maybe if I export and the import Naah, that would change the received data and time. A counter will be added: myword.doc, mywork1.doc, mywork2.doc... making it difficult to see from the attachments directory which file belongs to which message. One of the reasons why I store attachments in the message body and save them manually if necessary. I can change the name as well as the directory that way. Same here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Pane Question
Hello Stuart, Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse. My goodness! People is probably going to jump on me because I complain about the long greetings (or however they are called), some times three complete lines, appearing in some messages and here you are asking if the cursor could be removed. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Mau, [M] wrote: M Like moderators say when they act as such, please don't feel singled M out Cris by what I am going to comment or ask you. Most things apply M to many others on this and other TB lists. Isn't it a nice diplomatic start? :) M - Who cares about the date and time Mary Bull wrote her message? If I M cared, I could always look it up in her message. Which in a threaded M by reference view is right above yours. Not everyone threads by references, or necessarily keeps every message in a thread. So the message isn't always conveniently above the other to make reference to. I know that threading by references rocks and agree with the convenience but some may choose not to do so for whatever reason they may have. M - And even more, who cares about which was your local time when Mary M Bull wrote her message? I know you don't do this, but many others do. M See why you don't have to feel singled out? I do question the necessity of this one. However, who knows who may very well care about this. And why is it you, or I for that matter, have to care about everything in an introduction for it to be worthwhile including? M - Why do you have to repeat that Mary Bull wrote the message you are M replying to? I can see her message right above yours. This is reliably true only if you thread by references and/or if the the reader had not already deleted the previous messages in the thread. On a few occasions in the past, I have been confused when this information was not included in a reply and it really annoyed me since it takes little effort to include it. Why? It's fully automated in most clients and would therefore amount to a *deliberate* act on the part of the writer to have it removed. M - Why do you have to repeat the subject? I can see it in the Subject: M of your message and in the Subject of all messages in the thread. Yes. This does seem redundant, IMO. However, we all have our styles in presenting ourselves. M - Who cares about Mary Bull's message ID number? Why do you include it M before quoting what you want to quote? Does it help to something or M someone? Again, for those who don't thread, or for those who use a ticker virtual folder and may not have the full thread in view. M As I said Cris, please don't feel singled out. I just used you to ask M the same questions to many others. Same here. This response is for not only you but for those who may be wondering about the same things as you here. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Pane Question
Stuart Cuddy, [SC] wrote: SC When the whole message does not appear in the message screen I tab SC into that box and then scroll down to read the rest of the message. SC In some messages, I think HTML, the cursor does not appear and the SC whole box scrolls immediately. In other messages, I think text, the SC cursor appears and has to scroll to the bottom of the page before SC any new text appears. Since there is no need for a cursor in a SC message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible SC to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with SC the mouse. Yes. Use the rich text viewer for viewing messages. You can select this viewer in the TB! preferences under the View/Editor section. Change the 'View Plain Text Messages' option to 'Rich Text/HTML Viewer' If you wish to continue using the Fixed Width Viewer, then you can scroll independently of the cursor's movement by holding down the Alt key as you use the arrow keys. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message Pane Question
Mau, [M] wrote: Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse. M My goodness! People is probably going to jump on me because I M complain about the long greetings (or however they are called), some M times three complete lines, appearing in some messages and here you M are asking if the cursor could be removed. ;-) I think his problem is not with a space occupying object in the message viewer space, which in this case, happens to be a blinking sliver of black that represents the cursor. His problem is similar to mine in that when the cursor is in the viewer, one has to watch the cursor make its way to the bottom of the screen before any scrolling starts. If we're not editing, then why have a cursor there to be causing this shortfall. Holding down the alt-key while scrolling prevents that inconvenience. However, it's tacky to do so on a regular basis. One good solution would be to use the spacebar and get accustomed to full page scrolling or use the Rich Text Viewer. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Allie, Mau, [M] wrote: M Like moderators say when they act as such, please don't feel singled M out Cris by what I am going to comment or ask you. Most things apply M to many others on this and other TB lists. Isn't it a nice diplomatic start? :) M - Who cares about the date and time Mary Bull wrote her message? If I M cared, I could always look it up in her message. Which in a threaded M by reference view is right above yours. Not everyone threads by references, or necessarily keeps every message in a thread. So the message isn't always conveniently above the other to make reference to. I know that threading by references rocks and agree with the convenience but some may choose not to do so for whatever reason they may have. M - And even more, who cares about which was your local time when Mary M Bull wrote her message? I know you don't do this, but many others do. M See why you don't have to feel singled out? I do question the necessity of this one. However, who knows who may very well care about this. And why is it you, or I for that matter, have to care about everything in an introduction for it to be worthwhile including? M - Why do you have to repeat that Mary Bull wrote the message you are M replying to? I can see her message right above yours. This is reliably true only if you thread by references and/or if the the reader had not already deleted the previous messages in the thread. On a few occasions in the past, I have been confused when this information was not included in a reply and it really annoyed me since it takes little effort to include it. Why? It's fully automated in most clients and would therefore amount to a *deliberate* act on the part of the writer to have it removed. M - Why do you have to repeat the subject? I can see it in the Subject: M of your message and in the Subject of all messages in the thread. Yes. This does seem redundant, IMO. However, we all have our styles in presenting ourselves. M - Who cares about Mary Bull's message ID number? Why do you include it M before quoting what you want to quote? Does it help to something or M someone? Again, for those who don't thread, or for those who use a ticker virtual folder and may not have the full thread in view. M As I said Cris, please don't feel singled out. I just used you to ask M the same questions to many others. Same here. This response is for not only you but for those who may be wondering about the same things as you here. :) I obviously disagree with you. Please note that if I quote you full message without any trimming is because some people may have deleted your message and not have it in their message base, or may not be using a threaded view or may be using the ticker virtual folder. Cheers. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Pane Question
Hello Allie, Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse. M My goodness! People is probably going to jump on me because I M complain about the long greetings (or however they are called), some M times three complete lines, appearing in some messages and here you M are asking if the cursor could be removed. ;-) I think his problem is not with a space occupying object in the message viewer space, which in this case, happens to be a blinking sliver of black that represents the cursor. His problem is similar to mine in that when the cursor is in the viewer, one has to watch the cursor make its way to the bottom of the screen before any scrolling starts. If we're not editing, then why have a cursor there to be causing this shortfall. Holding down the alt-key while scrolling prevents that inconvenience. However, it's tacky to do so on a regular basis. One good solution would be to use the spacebar and get accustomed to full page scrolling or use the Rich Text Viewer. Have you ever tried using the Page Down and Page Up keys? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any attachment manager?
-- Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 10:55:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Thomas, Account / Properties / Files Directories / Attachments / Keep attachments in ... ? It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander for that. I have never tried the Keep attachments option to save in a directory. Does it automatically extract existing attachments or it will just be functional for new messages with attachments? When I switched over to saving attachments to directories I wrote a filter that would save the old existing attachments out for me. I don't remember all the specifics but I think I was able to get my old mail moved over. It was a bit annoying though, and on many occasions I wish we had more access to the format TB uses for data files. Indeed, one 3rd party developer has been able to reverse engineer this stuff in a commercial application, but he has decided his knowledge should not be public. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message Pane Question
Hello MAU, Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 12:02:22 PM, you wrote: Have you ever tried using the Page Down and Page Up keys? If you pick a message in the message pane and use the Page Down or Page Up keys (same with arrow) you move to a different message. In order to page in a message you need to left click with your mouse in the message before you page (or arrow) around. Not as convenient as using the spacebar as Allie mentions. -- Thanks, Terry Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Pane Question
Hello Terry, Not as convenient as using the spacebar as Allie mentions. Right, I forgot about that. Because I always read messages in the preview pane and because I use my mouse wheel to scroll. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter on attachment file name
Hello tbudl, I'm trying to filter emails that have been shrunk by Norton Antivirus. The attachment file is then called: Suppression de Norton Antivirus1.txt I tried to filter on this string in Anywhere but this does not work. Searched the help archives without success. Any hint welcome. -- Best regards, cs4l mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any attachment manager?
Hello tb, When I switched over to saving attachments to directories I wrote a filter that would save the old existing attachments out for me. I don't remember all the specifics but I think I was able to get my old mail moved over. Yes, I will have to think about something like that if I do decide to save attachments to directories. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Mau, [M] wrote: M Please note that if I quote you full message without any trimming is M because some people may have deleted your message and not have it in M their message base, or may not be using a threaded view or may be M using the ticker virtual folder. Your response surprises me. On the one hand we're discussing an introduction that is 2 or three lines long and questioning its redundancy. And now you're trying to compare it to quoting my *entire* 55+ lines of original message text. *Clearly*, it's a matter of compromise and reaching a generally accepted point without being excessive. Though we can reasonably make concessions by including helpful reminders/information in an introduction to a reply, to quote the entire message in the context of a discussion list is absolutely unreasonable. In different settings it's not, and I do quite often quote complete original messages in replies outside discussion lists. I do think you see my point but just wish to be difficult. Introductions of the type you so criticize are not disallowed on this list. However, overquoting is. Note that we *do* quote some of the original text when we do reply and your mischievous counter-argument would hold water *only* if we didn't quote any original text at all. Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word introductions to their replies. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Message Pane Question
Terry G. Munson, [TGM] wrote: Have you ever tried using the Page Down and Page Up keys? TGM If you pick a message in the message pane and use the Page Down or TGM Page Up keys (same with arrow) you move to a different message. Indeed. If you use those keys or just the arrow keys you always have to be conscious of which pane is in focus. Alt-arrows will always scroll only the preview pane. Same for spacebar. So for me, since the alt-up/down is cumbersome, I use PowerPro driven '/' for going to the next unread message and spacebar to read. I never have to be concerned about which pane is in focus. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Allie, Your response surprises me. Why? You should know me by now. On the one hand we're discussing an introduction that is 2 or three lines long and questioning its redundancy. Redundant and unnecessary information is redundant and unnecessary regardless of how long it is. And now you're trying to compare it to quoting my *entire* 55+ lines of original message text. No, I wasn't trying to compare both things. I was just trying to show that I could use your same arguments to try justify over quoting (which means including redundant and unnecessary information) in a list like this. snipped I do think you see my point but just wish to be difficult. I see your point but I don't agree with it. And yes, maybe I'm trying to be difficult, but not _just_ trying to be difficult. Introductions of the type you so criticize are not disallowed on this list. However, overquoting is. I know, and the rules are the rules and I accept them even if I may not like some of them . However, the fact that this kind of introductions are allowed doesn't mean they are necessary or that they include any useful/helpful information. They just include redundant and unnecessary information. Allowed, but unnecessary and redundant. Note that we *do* quote some of the original text when we do reply and your mischievous counter-argument would hold water *only* if we didn't quote any original text at all. I guess you didn't understand my counter-argument. Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word introductions to their replies. Of course we can. Cheers :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Allie, Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word introductions to their replies. Sorry Allie, I agreed on stopping this but I forgot something about nitpicking. This is from your MOD template about cut mark and used in this same thread by Marck: ,- [ ] | This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without | the signature and list footers since everything below and including | the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. `- I would understand this if quoting the whole message was allowed. But if doing in-line quoting and trimming, what difference does it make to include a cut mark or not? ,- [ ] | Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make | any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being | courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is | added to your signature by the list server. `- At least three lines of text? Being courteous to other readers? H. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 4:06 PM, you wrote: AM Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word AM introductions to their replies. M Sorry Allie, I agreed on stopping this but I forgot something about M nitpicking. M This is from your MOD template about cut mark and used in this same M thread by Marck: snip M At least three lines of text? Being courteous to other readers? H. Oh, come on, Miguel! Sit down with me and have a cup of coffee. The cut-mark is one of the distinctive and wonderful features of this list, and I am really glad the moderators enforce it. (Even though mine gets messed up, sometimes.) However, I'm sorry that I butted into the thread originally. The anonymous tb is determined not to use one. Not my affair. So, I thought I'd be courteous and welcome him, in case he should be the newcomer I had assumed him to be. And, instead, I got jumped on for not using a convention that another fellow-subscriber preferred, and then the whole thing veered off onto *his* conventions!! Really, this truly ought to be on tbot, IMHO, and I do wish you'd subscribe there. *And*--to complicate matters, I did feel so much as if you'd come to my defense, criticizing the criticizer! All of us need more sleep? (Picking up on the tbbeta banter here.) :) I'll say this, you and Allie are both among my heroes, and I can't bear to see you bickering over these small points. Long live the cut-mark! Long live Miguel, Allie, Leif, and Marck. Actually, I had taken a vow to stay out of this thread, further, but you are irresistible. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hi MAU, on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:06:38 +0100GMT, you wrote: M ,- [ ] M | This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without M | the signature and list footers since everything below and including M | the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. M `- M I would understand this if quoting the whole message was allowed. But if M doing in-line quoting and trimming, what difference does it make to M include a cut mark or not? It makes a difference when viewing it in RTV. It looks much nicer and is easier to ignore when everything below the cut mark appears smaller and in light grey as it does here... :o) M ,- [ ] M | Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make M | any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being M | courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is M | added to your signature by the list server. M `- M At least three lines of text? Being courteous to other readers? H. Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about courtesy? :-) -- Cheers Peter The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with. Marty Feldman Winamp currently playing: Paolo Conte - Tango Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
At 5:26 PM on 2/4/2004, Peter Meyns typed ... P Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about P courtesy? :-) Seems like an excellent idea to me. Now will someone please say Nazi so this topic can officially end! g -- Bill Blinn - Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 2/4/2004 at 5:37 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a moose. This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Mary, Oh, come on, Miguel! Sit down with me and have a cup of coffee. Tomorrow morning. If I have some coffee now I won't sleep. The cut-mark is one of the distinctive and wonderful features of this list, and I am really glad the moderators enforce it. (Even though mine gets messed up, sometimes.) I have nothing against the cut mark. The point I am trying to get across (apparently unsuccessfully) is that some reasons and arguments are good for three lines, the footer, at the end of a message and not for the introduction. manually snipped : Really, this truly ought to be on tbot, IMHO, and I do wish you'd subscribe there. Naaah. Too much alcohol and too much smoking there. *And*--to complicate matters, I did feel so much as if you'd come to my defense, criticizing the criticizer! That was just a coincidence :) I'll say this, you and Allie are both among my heroes, and I can't bear to see you bickering over these small points. I only argue with people I appreciate. If I don't care about someone, I don't bother to discuss/argue with him/her. Long live the cut-mark! Long live Miguel, Allie, Leif, and Marck. Actually, I had taken a vow to stay out of this thread, further, but you are irresistible. :) Err, are you married Mary? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Peter, It makes a difference when viewing it in RTV. It looks much nicer and is easier to ignore when everything below the cut mark appears smaller and in light grey as it does here... :o) I know, and I have said I have nothing against the cut mark. The RTV, the reader for those who actually like HTML e-mail but will not admit it ;-) Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about courtesy? :-) Don't misunderstand me. Of course there is nothing wrong with courtesy. But why ask for courtesy at the end of the message (where no one looks anyway) and not at the beginning (where every one does look)? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 4:41 PM, you wrote MRB Oh, come on, Miguel! Sit down with me and have a cup of coffee. M Tomorrow morning. If I have some coffee now I won't sleep. It's a date. :) MRB The cut-mark is one of the distinctive and wonderful features of this MRB list, and I am really glad the moderators enforce it. (Even though MRB mine gets messed up, sometimes.) M I have nothing against the cut mark. The point I am trying to get across M (apparently unsuccessfully) is that some reasons and arguments are good M for three lines, the footer, at the end of a message and not for the M introduction. Yes, I saw that. But, as you see, I also (mistakenly?) read it as an argument for doing away with a sig delimiter. I wish I had a template to erase all the beginning of messages, too, and just begin with the quoted text. Shift-Reply arrow doesn't always work for that, when there are a number of passages of text one would like to reply too. M manually snipped : MRB Really, this truly ought to be on tbot, IMHO, and I do wish you'd MRB subscribe there. M Naaah. Too much alcohol and too much smoking there. g MRB *And*--to complicate matters, I did feel so much as if you'd come to my MRB defense, criticizing the criticizer! M That was just a coincidence :) I thought it was, but it helped soothe my wounded feelings a little bit. :) MRB I'll say this, you and Allie are both among my heroes, and I can't MRB bear to see you bickering over these small points. M I only argue with people I appreciate. If I don't care about someone, I M don't bother to discuss/argue with him/her. I know. And it's between you and Allie, anyway. Since you don't want coffee, can I offer you a beer? MRB Long live the cut-mark! Long live Miguel, Allie, Leif, and Marck. MRB Actually, I had taken a vow to stay out of this thread, further, but MRB you are irresistible. :) M Err, are you married Mary? ;-) No, but I'm way too old for you. :) Unless you believe in December-May arrangements. :) Happy upcoming Valentine's Day to Miguel! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hi MAU, on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:46:33 +0100GMT, you wrote: Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about courtesy? :-) M Don't misunderstand me. Of course there is nothing wrong with courtesy. M But why ask for courtesy at the end of the message (where no one looks M anyway) and not at the beginning (where every one does look)? Right. Let's look at both ends. *S* -- Cheers Peter | RandomSignature-Professional 3.2 - DEMO | !!!You are using an illegal key! Please buy a LEGAL copy!!! Winamp currently playing: Portishead - Numb Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations
I just started playing with SmartBat and I found the Evaluate function. So, to get a feel for things, I tried a few expressions: 2+4 = 6 (Okay) 2*4 = 8 (Looking good...) 5^2 = 7 (What!?! 5 squared is 25. Wait a minute. What if...) 1^1 = 0 (Yup! It's XORing not raising to a power.) 1|2 = 3 (And this is OR) 1|2|4 = 7 (So it this) 71 = 1 (This is AND) 41 = 0 (So it this) 5**2 = 25(That's better!) 2*5**2= 100 (Hunh? It should be 50.) 2*(5**25) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.) sqrt(25) = Error (No sqrt [square root] function? Oh well...) 25**.5= 5 (I know how to get around that problem!) Everything seems to make sense (after I got over the binary math) except this: 2*5**2= 100 (Hunh? It should be 50.) This seemed to be evaluated as: (2*5)**2 (10)**2 100 and not 2*(5**2) 2*(25) 100 If I remember correctly, in the order of operations (PEMDAS), exponentiation comes after parentheses and before multiplication and division, which come before addition and subtraction. So, is this a problem with SmartBat's Evaluate function, the %CALC macro, the library (if any) RitLabs used to implement this functionality, or my memory? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. A day without sunshine is like, night. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Mary, No, but I'm way too old for you. :) Unless you believe in December-May arrangements. :) Way to old for me? What do you know? I'm not a kid any more. Actually, I haven't been a kid for many many years. And when I say many many I mean many many. :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 5:22 PM, you wrote: MRB No, but I'm way too old for you. :) Unless you believe in December-May MRB arrangements. :) M Way to old for me? What do you know? I'm not a kid any more. Actually, I M haven't been a kid for many many years. And when I say many many I mean M many many. :) So, send me a Reply template that will strip out all that beginning-stuff which posters so often put in before getting to the point, and I'll send you a valentine, and we'll see how it goes! :) How many grandchildren do you have? g -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Mary, So, send me a Reply template that will strip out all that beginning-stuff which posters so often put in before getting to the point, and I'll send you a valentine, and we'll see how it goes! :) Just include this macro at the beginning of your template: %REDUNDANTANDUNNECESSARYINFO=%- How many grandchildren do you have? g None. But I won't tell you why :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations
-- Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:16:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started playing with SmartBat and I found the Evaluate function. So, to get a feel for things, I tried a few expressions: 2+4 = 6 (Okay) 2*4 = 8 (Looking good...) 5^2 = 7 (What!?! 5 squared is 25. Wait a minute. What if...) 1^1 = 0 (Yup! It's XORing not raising to a power.) 1|2 = 3 (And this is OR) 1|2|4 = 7 (So it this) 71 = 1 (This is AND) 41 = 0 (So it this) 5**2 = 25(That's better!) 2*5**2= 100 (Hunh? It should be 50.) 2*(5**25) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.) sqrt(25) = Error (No sqrt [square root] function? Oh well...) 25**.5= 5 (I know how to get around that problem!) Everything seems to make sense (after I got over the binary math) except this: 2*5**2= 100 (Hunh? It should be 50.) This seemed to be evaluated as: (2*5)**2 (10)**2 100 and not 2*(5**2) 2*(25) 100 If I remember correctly, in the order of operations (PEMDAS), exponentiation comes after parentheses and before multiplication and division, which come before addition and subtraction. So, is this a problem with SmartBat's Evaluate function, the %CALC macro, the library (if any) RitLabs used to implement this functionality, or my memory? I'm not sure what you're trying to do but I just started my own set of macros today and two of the macros may interest you. One evaluates python expressions, and the other executes python code. So if you want to perform various math, and more, these are my results : 2+4 : 6 2*4 : 8 5^2 : 7 1^1 : 0 1|1 : 1 1|2|4 : 7 71 : 1 41 : 0 5**2 : 0 25: 0 2*5**2: 50 2*(5**25) : 596046447753906250L 2*(5**2) : 50 25**.5: 5.0 import math math.sqrt(25) : 5.0 address = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' user,domain = address.split('@') user : 'tb' domain: 'kaishaku.org' You can probably do just about anything you want. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - up for: 20 day(s), 3 hour(s), 40 minute(s), 5 second(s) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 5:39 PM, you wrote: MRB So, send me a Reply template that will strip out all that MRB beginning-stuff which posters so often put in before getting to the MRB point, and I'll send you a valentine, and we'll see how it goes! :) M Just include this macro at the beginning of your template: M %REDUNDANTANDUNNECESSARYINFO=%- Done. Thanks a million. :) MRB How many grandchildren do you have? g M None. But I won't tell you why :) Not relevant anyway. G Not really a very good clue to one's age. :) Since we both prefer plain text, here's your valentine message from me: Happy Valentine to Miguel, Who writes templates so well, Who likes beer and likes coffee, Though his age he won't tell! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 4-Feb-2004 6:16:43 PM SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2*(5**25) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.) I have mis-typed. This line should read: 2*(5**2) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.) -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on attachment file name
Hallo cs4l, On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:36:05 +0100GMT (4-2-04, 21:36 +0100, where I live), you wrote: c I'm trying to filter emails that have been shrunk by Norton Antivirus. c The attachment file is then called: c Suppression de Norton Antivirus1.txt TB won't filter on attachments, not on their name and not on their contents. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello Mary, Though his age he won't tell! I won't tell but I can write it :) I'll be 61 in two months from today. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 6:13 PM, you wrote: MRB Though his age he won't tell! Indispensable Miguel!! M I won't tell but I can write it :) I'll be 61 in two months from M today. Then I shall also write a birthday rhyme for you! I'll be 77 in about 3 months. And I have one grandchild, who'll be 21 in two days and was born in a February snowstorm. BTW, that template only seems to work on messages from you. g :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mod: Off-topic (Was: Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support))
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: MB I'll be 77 in about 3 months. And I have one grandchild, who'll be 21 MB in two days and was born in a February snowstorm. MB BTW, that template only seems to work on messages from you. g :) Ok. It's time guys. :)) moderator I deleted an account and deleted my moderatorial templates. ooops!!! Anyway, not to ever single you out Mary. ;) This thread has gone on long enough and has even drifted into the off-topic realm. Time to move it to TBOT. Thanks!! /moderator -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/53 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mod: Off-topic (Was: Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support))
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 6:37 PM, you wrote: AM Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: snip AM Ok. It's time guys. :)) AM moderator AM I deleted an account and deleted my moderatorial templates. ooops!!! AM Anyway, not to ever single you out Mary. ;) AM This thread has gone on long enough and has even drifted into the AM off-topic realm. Indisputably. I'm sorry. :) AM Time to move it to TBOT. Thanks!! Gone. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists
Hello bats, have you any filters to monitor mails to you on mailinglists? I'd like to have a special folder, with references/links to mails that were written as a response to sth I wrote (on a mailinglist). For now, I've setup a Incoming mail filter (on top of filter list, straight after the move POPFile-spam out filter), which checks for my domain name and special writing of my firstname in the Recipient field. Matched messages then get a special colour group (never used them before) and a copy of the mail is put to a special folder. This is not what I really like to have, but my first approach. -8 BeginFilter Name: mark messages to me Active: 1 Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Target: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CopyFolder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to me MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|dAniel Actions: faCopyMsg,faoContinueProcessing,faSetColor AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: mailtome AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -8 -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists
Hello dAniel, have you any filters to monitor mails to you on mailinglists? I'd like to have a special folder, with references/links to mails that were written as a response to sth I wrote (on a mailinglist). This is the one I use that I call To_me and all it does is assign to R_to_me colour group. BeginFilter Name: To_me Active: 1 Source: \\MAU\Inbox Target: \\MAU\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: faoContinueProcessing,faoRegExp,faSetColor AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: R_to_me AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Douglas, On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 1:28:28 AM, you wrote re: Scroll Wheel Problem: DH Hello Michael other TB! list members following this thread, DH On Sunday, December 14, 2003, you wrote: MSG I'm using TB 2.02.3 on a computer running Windows XP. DH I'm using TB! 1.62r and running WinXPPro. MSG For some reason, my mouse scroll wheel doesn't work in TB. It's fine MSG in all my other programs, but not in TB. I'm using a Logitech MSG MouseMan Wheel connected to a USB port and I'm using Logitech's MSG mouseware software to configure the mouse (can't seem to locate the MSG version number). DH Logitech's trackball is the best cursor solution there is, IMO. MSG Anyone else have this problem? MSG Any suggestions how I can get the wheel to work? DH Yes. Download, install and configure KatMouse for TB. It's freeware DH and will give you scrolling in any app., even old win apps. DH KatMouse - mouse wheel utility for Windows DH http://kickme.to/katmouse DH http://eduard.hiti.bei.t-online.de/ I reported this problem several versions ago and it still has not been fixed. I too have a Logitech mouse that works in all other applications. I just purchased a Contour mouse it has the same problem with only The Bat. I wish the developers would look into this (or give me my money back). :( -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 2.02.3 CE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Wayne, Thursday, February 5, 2004, 2:01:57 AM, you wrote: WH I reported this problem several versions ago and it still has not been WH fixed. I too have a Logitech mouse that works in all other WH applications. I just purchased a Contour mouse it has the same problem WH with only The Bat. I wish the developers would look into this (or give WH me my money back). :( I started all this off when I complained that my that my Logitech Trackman cordless wouldn't work in TB and got several people telling me their rodents worked fine. At least I'm glad to know it *isn't* just me. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem
At 9:16 PM on 2/4/2004, malexander typed ... m I started all this off when I complained that my that my Logitech m Trackman cordless wouldn't work in TB and got several people telling m me their rodents worked fine. At least I'm glad to know it *isn't* m just me. I have a Logitech MX500 and the scroll wheel works properly, but there are two buttons that scroll up and down in most applications. The cursor changes in TB, but no scrolling occurs EXCEPT in the editor (I just tried it in this message and it works.) -- Bill Blinn - Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 2/4/2004 at 9:25 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Live truth instead of professing it. -- Elbert Hubbard This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists
Hello bats, on Thu, 5. Feb 2004 at 02:22:47 +0100 MAU wrote: M MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's better.. (with my domain of course) :) While playing with this I wanted to apply the filter on old mails in folders where they got sorted. That's possible with applying a hotkey for the filter, because the source folder will not be checked. But unfortunately the mails get moved to the main Move-To-Folder of the filter (which is Inbox, as it's an Inbox filter). Is there no way to have filters without moving? This could be done by a simple checkbox Don't move with Move messages to folder on the filter's main page. I hope that the new upcoming filtering system will provide such possibilities (and a lot more). -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Message Pane Question
Hello Allie, Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 1:32:33 PM, you wrote: Snip AM I think his problem is not with a space occupying object in the message AM viewer space, which in this case, happens to be a blinking sliver of AM black that represents the cursor. His problem is similar to mine in that AM when the cursor is in the viewer, one has to watch the cursor make its AM way to the bottom of the screen before any scrolling starts. If we're AM not editing, then why have a cursor there to be causing this shortfall. Yes this was my problem. AM Holding down the alt-key while scrolling prevents that inconvenience. AM However, it's tacky to do so on a regular basis. One good solution would AM be to use the spacebar and get accustomed to full page scrolling or use AM the Rich Text Viewer. The combination of rich text viewer and spacebar solves my problems. Amazing the things I have yet to learn. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Dispatcher defaults
How can the Read flag be set to be unchecked when Message Dispatcher starts? I tried to find the answer to this in the archives, but there didn't seem to be an answer on point. -- Thanks, Stan Robins Mendota Heights, MN USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat, 2.02.3 CE www.ritlabs.com * I'm not into working out. My philosophy: No pain, no pain. * Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html