Why did I get a bunch of weird posts?

2004-02-04 Thread Deborah W
Just downloaded my email,  got 28 emails which arrived in the tbudl
folder. They don't show a to or from or subject in the message list,
but they do show these items in the headers. They're all dated
30/12/1999.

Okay, even stranger. I've deleted them,  now they're in the Trash
folder - and now they show today's date. It seems that TB has somehow
processed them wrong when they got to me. Any explanations?

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Re: Reading Receipt

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 Interesting your folder template gets more response than my initial
 inquiry on the magic confirmation receipt.

Its is not that one issue gets more attention than another one. It is me
who gets more attention than you. ;-)

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Re: Reading Receipt

2004-02-04 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU,

Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:09:08 AM, MAU wrote:

 Interesting your folder template gets more response than my initial
 inquiry on the magic confirmation receipt.

M Its is not that one issue gets more attention than another one. It is me
M who gets more attention than you. ;-)

ROTFLMAO!!!

And deservedly so. At least some things don't change over the years. :-)

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Re[2]: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread drifthat
Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 2:23:06 AM, you wrote:
   Does The Bat! have any attachment manager?
TF What do you mean? You can attach file by using the attach icon.
No, What I mean is a program which can manage/extract attachment files from received 
mails. for example, Advanced Attachments Processor (AAP) is a powerful attachment 
manager: http://mailutilities.com/aap/
AAP is very good, but it's too expensive. so I want to know whether TB has a built-in 
attachment processor or there is another 3rd-party software.

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Re: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello drifthat,

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:52:04 +0800 GMT (04/02/2004, 22:52 +0700 GMT),
drifthat wrote:

TF What do you mean? You can attach file by using the attach icon.

 No, What I mean is a program which can manage/extract attachment
 files from received mails.

Does this help you:

Account / Properties / Files  Directories / Attachments / Keep
attachments in ... ?

It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander
for that.

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Re: cut-line RFC and client support

2004-02-04 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Chris,

On 4 Feb 2004 at 00:11:48 -0500 GMT [06:11 CET] you wrote:

 On Tuesday, February 03, 2004, 9:55 PM, you wrote:

C Somewhat random observation:
C Since mailing lists are not one-to-one, you should consider using the
C original sender's name and not the pronoun you. This can be
C accomplished by replacing you in your template with
C %O(FROM | REPLY)?NAME.

Why? If the name is mentioned in the greeting there's no need to mention
it again. It's already clear whose quotation that is.

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Re: cut-line RFC and client support

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:40:39 -0500 GMT (04/02/2004, 10:40 +0700 GMT),
Chris wrote:

 It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and not
 the top.

Yes, the last cutline will be used. I don't think that is a problem.

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Re: cut-line RFC and client support

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
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Thomas Fernandez wrote:

It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and not
the top.


 Yes, the last cutline will be used. I don't think that is a problem.
The main benefit occurs when replying to text in a list digest. Each
message has a cutmark so if TB! worked with the first cutmark going
from top to bottom you'd have fun trying to selectively quote any
message text below the cutmark for the first message.
The other problem is many, including myself, uses the rich text viewer
and have signature text coloured etc. so that it's unobtrusive and
therefore clearly viewed as signature text. If TB! worked with the
first cut mark in a digest, it would colour *all* messages below the
cutmark of the first digest message the same as signature text since
the rest of the digest would be treated as a signature.
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Re: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 Account / Properties / Files  Directories / Attachments / Keep
 attachments in ... ?
 
 It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander
 for that.

I have never tried the Keep attachments option to save in a directory.
Does it automatically extract existing attachments or it will just be
functional for new messages with attachments?

Also, what happens if different attachments have the same file name?

TIA.

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Re: cut-line RFC and client support

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Andre,

 Why? If the name is mentioned in the greeting there's no need to mention
 it again. It's already clear whose quotation that is.

Agree. And also there is threading :)

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Re: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:55:46 +0100 GMT (04/02/2004, 23:55 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 I have never tried the Keep attachments option to save in a directory.
 Does it automatically extract existing attachments or it will just be
 functional for new messages with attachments?

Only for new messages.

 Also, what happens if different attachments have the same file name?

A counter will be added: myword.doc, mywork1.doc, mywork2.doc...
making it difficult to see from the attachments directory which file
belongs to which message. One of the reasons why I store attachments
in the message body and save them manually if necessary. I can change
the name as well as the directory that way.

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Re: cut-line RFC and client support

2004-02-04 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Chris,

Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 8:42:25 PM, you wrote:
C What's up with the trouts? Are they in any way related to the
C trouts that people get slapped with on IRC?

The trouts predated even IRC. I used them when I ran a BBS in the mid
90s, and even then I picked up the trout habit from somewhere else
(don't recall where). So, trouting has been around f'ever.

I honestly can't remember where I first heard the term, but I know it
predates the BBS boom.

Anyone else know where it started?


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Re: cut-line RFC and client support

2004-02-04 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Chris,

Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 8:40:39 PM, you wrote:
C It seems as if The Bat! searches for cutlines from the bottom and
C not the top.

That is correct, and as Marck alluded to earlier in this thread, the
reason we do not include the cut line in the list footer. If we did,
then the poster's cut line wouldn't cut. Hence the reason we ask
people to include a cut line in their posts.


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Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello TBUDL,

  This problem may not effect many people as much as me because I am
  reading messages at 800X600, but it is still a problem on larger
  screens.

  When the whole message does not appear in the message screen I tab
  into that box and then scroll down to read the rest of the message.
  In some messages, I think HTML, the cursor does not appear and the
  whole box scrolls immediately. In other messages, I think text, the
  cursor appears and has to scroll to the bottom of the page before
  any new text appears. Since there is no need for a cursor in a
  message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible
  to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with
  the mouse.

  Maybe an option. Maybe I'm alone on this. If I get any support I
  will continue with a new feature request with bugtraq, otherwise I
  will just hang my head in shame.

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Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Chris,

 On Tuesday, February 3, 2004 at 11:09:09 PM, Mary R Bull wrote in the
 message cut-line RFC and client support
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Like moderators say when they act as such, please don't feel singled out
Cris by what I am going to comment or ask you. Most things apply to many
others on this and other TB lists.

- Who cares about the date and time Mary Bull wrote her message? If I
cared, I could always look it up in her message. Which in a threaded by
reference view is right above yours.

- And even more, who cares about which was your local time when Mary
Bull wrote her message? I know you don't do this, but many others do.
See why you don't have to feel singled out?

- Why do you have to repeat that Mary Bull wrote the message you are
replying to? I can see her message right above yours.

- Why do you have to repeat the subject? I can see it in the Subject:
of your message and in the Subject of all messages in the thread.

- Who cares about Mary Bull's message ID number? Why do you include it
before quoting what you want to quote? Does it help to something or
someone? MID links may be useful when you refer to a message which is
way up or down in the message list. But if I want to see Mary's message
to re-read it, I can easily see it because it is just above your
message.

As I said Cris, please don't feel singled out. I just used you to ask
the same questions to many others.

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Re: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 Only for new messages.

That's what I feared. Darn! Maybe if I export and the import Naah,
that would change the received data and time.

 A counter will be added: myword.doc, mywork1.doc, mywork2.doc...
 making it difficult to see from the attachments directory which file
 belongs to which message. One of the reasons why I store attachments
 in the message body and save them manually if necessary. I can change
 the name as well as the directory that way.

Same here.

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Re: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart,

 Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless
 specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor
 not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse.

My goodness! People is probably going to jump on me because I complain
about the long greetings (or however they are called), some times three
complete lines, appearing in some messages and here you are asking if
the cursor could be removed. ;-)

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote:

M Like moderators say when they act as such, please don't feel singled
M out Cris by what I am going to comment or ask you. Most things apply
M to many others on this and other TB lists.

Isn't it a nice diplomatic start? :)

M - Who cares about the date and time Mary Bull wrote her message? If I
M cared, I could always look it up in her message. Which in a threaded
M by reference view is right above yours.

Not everyone threads by references, or necessarily keeps every message
in a thread. So the message isn't always conveniently above the other to
make reference to.

I know that threading by references rocks and agree with the convenience
but some may choose not to do so for whatever reason they may have.

M - And even more, who cares about which was your local time when Mary
M Bull wrote her message? I know you don't do this, but many others do.
M See why you don't have to feel singled out?

I do question the necessity of this one. However, who knows who may very
well care about this. And why is it you, or I for that matter, have to
care about everything in an introduction for it to be worthwhile
including?

M - Why do you have to repeat that Mary Bull wrote the message you are
M replying to? I can see her message right above yours.

This is reliably true only if you thread by references and/or if the the
reader had not already deleted the previous messages in the thread. On a
few occasions in the past, I have been confused when this information
was not included in a reply and it really annoyed me since it takes
little effort to include it. Why? It's fully automated in most clients
and would therefore amount to a *deliberate* act on the part of the
writer to have it removed.

M - Why do you have to repeat the subject? I can see it in the Subject:
M of your message and in the Subject of all messages in the thread.

Yes. This does seem redundant, IMO. However, we all have our styles in
presenting ourselves.

M - Who cares about Mary Bull's message ID number? Why do you include it
M before quoting what you want to quote? Does it help to something or
M someone?

Again, for those who don't thread, or for those who use a ticker virtual
folder and may not have the full thread in view.

M As I said Cris, please don't feel singled out. I just used you to ask
M the same questions to many others.

Same here. This response is for not only you but for those who may be
wondering about the same things as you here. :)

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Re: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
Stuart Cuddy, [SC] wrote:

SC When the whole message does not appear in the message screen I tab
SC into that box and then scroll down to read the rest of the message.
SC In some messages, I think HTML, the cursor does not appear and the
SC whole box scrolls immediately. In other messages, I think text, the
SC cursor appears and has to scroll to the bottom of the page before
SC any new text appears. Since there is no need for a cursor in a
SC message box, unless specifically selecting text would it be possible
SC to have the cursor not appear in any messages, unless you click with
SC the mouse.

Yes. Use the rich text viewer for viewing messages. You can select this
viewer in the TB! preferences under the View/Editor section. Change the
'View Plain Text Messages' option to 'Rich Text/HTML Viewer'

If you wish to continue using the Fixed Width Viewer, then you can
scroll independently of the cursor's movement by holding down the Alt
key as you use the arrow keys.

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Re[2]: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote:

 Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless
 specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor
 not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse.

M My goodness! People is probably going to jump on me because I
M complain about the long greetings (or however they are called), some
M times three complete lines, appearing in some messages and here you
M are asking if the cursor could be removed. ;-)

I think his problem is not with a space occupying object in the message
viewer space, which in this case, happens to be a blinking sliver of
black that represents the cursor. His problem is similar to mine in that
when the cursor is in the viewer, one has to watch the cursor make its
way to the bottom of the screen before any scrolling starts. If we're
not editing, then why have a cursor there to be causing this shortfall.

Holding down the alt-key while scrolling prevents that inconvenience.
However, it's tacky to do so on a regular basis. One good solution would
be to use the spacebar and get accustomed to full page scrolling or use
the Rich Text Viewer.

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Mau, [M] wrote:
 
M Like moderators say when they act as such, please don't feel singled
M out Cris by what I am going to comment or ask you. Most things apply
M to many others on this and other TB lists.
 
 Isn't it a nice diplomatic start? :)
 
M - Who cares about the date and time Mary Bull wrote her message? If I
M cared, I could always look it up in her message. Which in a threaded
M by reference view is right above yours.
 
 Not everyone threads by references, or necessarily keeps every message
 in a thread. So the message isn't always conveniently above the other to
 make reference to.
 
 I know that threading by references rocks and agree with the convenience
 but some may choose not to do so for whatever reason they may have.
 
M - And even more, who cares about which was your local time when Mary
M Bull wrote her message? I know you don't do this, but many others do.
M See why you don't have to feel singled out?
 
 I do question the necessity of this one. However, who knows who may very
 well care about this. And why is it you, or I for that matter, have to
 care about everything in an introduction for it to be worthwhile
 including?
 
M - Why do you have to repeat that Mary Bull wrote the message you are
M replying to? I can see her message right above yours.
 
 This is reliably true only if you thread by references and/or if the the
 reader had not already deleted the previous messages in the thread. On a
 few occasions in the past, I have been confused when this information
 was not included in a reply and it really annoyed me since it takes
 little effort to include it. Why? It's fully automated in most clients
 and would therefore amount to a *deliberate* act on the part of the
 writer to have it removed.
 
M - Why do you have to repeat the subject? I can see it in the Subject:
M of your message and in the Subject of all messages in the thread.
 
 Yes. This does seem redundant, IMO. However, we all have our styles in
 presenting ourselves.
 
M - Who cares about Mary Bull's message ID number? Why do you include it
M before quoting what you want to quote? Does it help to something or
M someone?
 
 Again, for those who don't thread, or for those who use a ticker virtual
 folder and may not have the full thread in view.
 
M As I said Cris, please don't feel singled out. I just used you to ask
M the same questions to many others.
 
 Same here. This response is for not only you but for those who may be
 wondering about the same things as you here. :)

I obviously disagree with you.

Please note that if I quote you full message without any trimming is
because some people may have deleted your message and not have it in
their message base, or may not be using a threaded view or may be using
the ticker virtual folder.

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Re: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Since there is no need for a cursor in a message box, unless
 specifically selecting text would it be possible to have the cursor
 not appear in any messages, unless you click with the mouse.
 
M My goodness! People is probably going to jump on me because I
M complain about the long greetings (or however they are called), some
M times three complete lines, appearing in some messages and here you
M are asking if the cursor could be removed. ;-)
 
 I think his problem is not with a space occupying object in the message
 viewer space, which in this case, happens to be a blinking sliver of
 black that represents the cursor. His problem is similar to mine in that
 when the cursor is in the viewer, one has to watch the cursor make its
 way to the bottom of the screen before any scrolling starts. If we're
 not editing, then why have a cursor there to be causing this shortfall.
 
 Holding down the alt-key while scrolling prevents that inconvenience.
 However, it's tacky to do so on a regular basis. One good solution would
 be to use the spacebar and get accustomed to full page scrolling or use
 the Rich Text Viewer.

Have you ever tried using the Page Down and Page Up keys?

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Re: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread tb

-- Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 10:55:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Thomas,

 Account / Properties / Files  Directories / Attachments / Keep
 attachments in ... ?
 
 It will extract attachmentsl, but not manage them. I use Total Commander
 for that.

 I have never tried the Keep attachments option to save in a directory.
 Does it automatically extract existing attachments or it will just be
 functional for new messages with attachments?

When I switched over to saving attachments to directories I wrote a filter
that would save the old existing attachments out for me. I don't remember
all the specifics but I think I was able to get my old mail moved over.

It was a bit annoying though, and on many occasions I wish we had more
access to the format TB uses for data files. Indeed, one 3rd party
developer has been able to reverse engineer this stuff in a commercial
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Re[2]: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello MAU,

Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 12:02:22 PM, you wrote:

 Have you ever tried using the Page Down and Page Up keys?

If you pick a message in the message pane and use the Page Down or
Page Up keys (same with arrow) you move to a different message.

In order to page in a message you need to left click with your mouse
in the message before you page (or arrow) around.

Not as convenient as using the spacebar as Allie mentions.

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Re: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Terry,

 Not as convenient as using the spacebar as Allie mentions.

Right, I forgot about that. Because I always read messages in the
preview pane and because I use my mouse wheel to scroll.

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Filter on attachment file name

2004-02-04 Thread cs4l
Hello tbudl,

I'm trying to filter emails that have been shrunk by Norton Antivirus. 

The attachment file is then called:
Suppression de Norton Antivirus1.txt

I tried to filter on this string in Anywhere but this does not work.
Searched the help archives without success. Any hint welcome.

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Re: Is there any attachment manager?

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello tb,

 When I switched over to saving attachments to directories I wrote a filter
 that would save the old existing attachments out for me. I don't remember
 all the specifics but I think I was able to get my old mail moved over.

Yes, I will have to think about something like that if I do decide to
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Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote:

M Please note that if I quote you full message without any trimming is
M because some people may have deleted your message and not have it in
M their message base, or may not be using a threaded view or may be
M using the ticker virtual folder.

Your response surprises me.

On the one hand we're discussing an introduction that is 2 or three
lines long and questioning its redundancy.

And now you're trying to compare it to quoting my *entire* 55+ lines of
original message text.

*Clearly*, it's a matter of compromise and reaching a generally accepted
point without being excessive. Though we can reasonably make concessions
by including helpful reminders/information in an introduction to a
reply, to quote the entire message in the context of a discussion list
is absolutely unreasonable. In different settings it's not, and I do
quite often quote complete original messages in replies outside
discussion lists.

I do think you see my point but just wish to be difficult.

Introductions of the type you so criticize are not disallowed on this
list. However, overquoting is.

Note that we *do* quote some of the original text when we do reply and
your mischievous counter-argument would hold water *only* if we didn't
quote any original text at all.

Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word
introductions to their replies.

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Re[3]: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
Terry G. Munson, [TGM] wrote:

 Have you ever tried using the Page Down and Page Up keys?

TGM If you pick a message in the message pane and use the Page Down or
TGM Page Up keys (same with arrow) you move to a different message.

Indeed. If you use those keys or just the arrow keys you always have to
be conscious of which pane is in focus.

Alt-arrows will always scroll only the preview pane. Same for spacebar.

So for me, since the alt-up/down is cumbersome, I use PowerPro driven
'/' for going to the next unread message and spacebar to read. I never
have to be concerned about which pane is in focus.

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Your response surprises me.

Why? You should know me by now.

 On the one hand we're discussing an introduction that is 2 or three
 lines long and questioning its redundancy.

Redundant and unnecessary information is redundant and unnecessary
regardless of how long it is.

 And now you're trying to compare it to quoting my *entire* 55+ lines of
 original message text.

No, I wasn't trying to compare both things. I was just trying to show
that I could use your same arguments to try justify over quoting (which
means including redundant and unnecessary information) in a list like
this.

snipped

 I do think you see my point but just wish to be difficult.

I see your point but I don't agree with it. And yes, maybe I'm trying to
be difficult, but not _just_ trying to be difficult.

 Introductions of the type you so criticize are not disallowed on this
 list. However, overquoting is.

I know, and the rules are the rules and I accept them even if I may not
like some of them . However, the fact that this kind of introductions
are allowed doesn't mean they are necessary or that they include any
useful/helpful information. They just include redundant and unnecessary
information. Allowed, but unnecessary and redundant.

 Note that we *do* quote some of the original text when we do reply and
 your mischievous counter-argument would hold water *only* if we didn't
 quote any original text at all.

I guess you didn't understand my counter-argument.

 Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word
 introductions to their replies.

Of course we can.

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Allie,

 Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word
 introductions to their replies.

Sorry Allie, I agreed on stopping this but I forgot something about
nitpicking.

This is from your MOD template about cut mark and used in this same
thread by Marck:

,- [  ]
| This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
| the signature and list footers since everything below and including
| the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. 
`-

I would understand this if quoting the whole message was allowed. But if
doing in-line quoting and trimming, what difference does it make to
include a cut mark or not?

,- [  ]
| Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make
| any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being
| courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is
| added to your signature by the list server.
`-

At least three lines of text? Being courteous to other readers? H.

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Mary R Bull
Hello MAU!

On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 4:06 PM, you wrote:

AM Now, can we please stop this nitpicking about how members choose to word
AM introductions to their replies.

M Sorry Allie, I agreed on stopping this but I forgot something about
M nitpicking.

M This is from your MOD template about cut mark and used in this same
M thread by Marck:

snip

M At least three lines of text? Being courteous to other readers? H.

Oh, come on, Miguel! Sit down with me and have a cup of coffee. The
cut-mark is one of the distinctive and wonderful features of this
list, and I am really glad the moderators enforce it. (Even though
mine gets messed up, sometimes.)

However, I'm sorry that I butted into the thread originally. The
anonymous tb is determined not to use one.

Not my affair.

So, I thought I'd be courteous and welcome him, in case he should be
the newcomer I had assumed him to be.

And, instead, I got jumped on for not using a convention that another
fellow-subscriber preferred, and then the whole thing veered off onto
*his* conventions!!

Really, this truly ought to be on tbot, IMHO, and I do wish you'd
subscribe there.

*And*--to complicate matters, I did feel so much as if you'd come to my
defense, criticizing the criticizer!

All of us need more sleep? (Picking up on the tbbeta banter here.) :)

I'll say this, you and Allie are both among my heroes, and I can't
bear to see you bickering over these small points.

Long live the cut-mark! Long live Miguel, Allie, Leif, and Marck.
Actually, I had taken a vow to stay out of this thread, further, but
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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MAU,

on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:06:38 +0100GMT, you wrote:

M ,- [  ]
M | This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
M | the signature and list footers since everything below and including
M | the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. 
M `-

M I would understand this if quoting the whole message was allowed. But if
M doing in-line quoting and trimming, what difference does it make to
M include a cut mark or not?

It makes a difference when viewing it in RTV. It looks much nicer and
is easier to ignore when everything below the cut mark appears smaller
and in light grey as it does here... :o)

M ,- [  ]
M | Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make
M | any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being
M | courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is
M | added to your signature by the list server.
M `-

M At least three lines of text? Being courteous to other readers? H.

Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about
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Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Bill Blinn - Technology Editor
At 5:26 PM on 2/4/2004, Peter Meyns typed ...


P Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about
P courtesy? :-)

Seems like an excellent idea to me. Now will someone please say Nazi
so this topic can officially end! g


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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 Oh, come on, Miguel! Sit down with me and have a cup of coffee.

Tomorrow morning. If I have some coffee now I won't sleep.

 The cut-mark is one of the distinctive and wonderful features of this
 list, and I am really glad the moderators enforce it. (Even though
 mine gets messed up, sometimes.)

I have nothing against the cut mark. The point I am trying to get across
(apparently unsuccessfully) is that some reasons and arguments are good
for three lines, the footer, at the end of a message and not for the
introduction.

manually snipped :

 Really, this truly ought to be on tbot, IMHO, and I do wish you'd
 subscribe there.

Naaah. Too much alcohol and too much smoking there.

 *And*--to complicate matters, I did feel so much as if you'd come to my
 defense, criticizing the criticizer!

That was just a coincidence :)

 I'll say this, you and Allie are both among my heroes, and I can't
 bear to see you bickering over these small points.

I only argue with people I appreciate. If I don't care about someone, I
don't bother to discuss/argue with him/her.

 Long live the cut-mark! Long live Miguel, Allie, Leif, and Marck.
 Actually, I had taken a vow to stay out of this thread, further, but
 you are irresistible. :)

Err, are you married Mary? ;-)

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 It makes a difference when viewing it in RTV. It looks much nicer and
 is easier to ignore when everything below the cut mark appears smaller
 and in light grey as it does here... :o)

I know, and I have said I have nothing against the cut mark.

The RTV, the reader for those who actually like HTML e-mail but will not
admit it ;-)

 Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about
 courtesy? :-)

Don't misunderstand me. Of course there is nothing wrong with courtesy.
But why ask for courtesy at the end of the message (where no one looks
anyway) and not at the beginning (where every one does look)?

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Mary R Bull
Hello MAU!

On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 4:41 PM, you wrote

MRB Oh, come on, Miguel! Sit down with me and have a cup of coffee.

M Tomorrow morning. If I have some coffee now I won't sleep.

It's a date. :)

MRB The cut-mark is one of the distinctive and wonderful features of this
MRB list, and I am really glad the moderators enforce it. (Even though
MRB mine gets messed up, sometimes.)

M I have nothing against the cut mark. The point I am trying to get across
M (apparently unsuccessfully) is that some reasons and arguments are good
M for three lines, the footer, at the end of a message and not for the
M introduction.

Yes, I saw that. But, as you see, I also (mistakenly?) read it as an
argument for doing away with a sig delimiter.

I wish I had a template to erase all the beginning of messages, too,
and just begin with the quoted text. Shift-Reply arrow doesn't always
work for that, when there are a number of passages of text one would
like to reply too.

M manually snipped :

MRB Really, this truly ought to be on tbot, IMHO, and I do wish you'd
MRB subscribe there.

M Naaah. Too much alcohol and too much smoking there.

g

MRB *And*--to complicate matters, I did feel so much as if you'd come to my
MRB defense, criticizing the criticizer!

M That was just a coincidence :)

I thought it was, but it helped soothe my wounded feelings a little
bit. :)

MRB I'll say this, you and Allie are both among my heroes, and I can't
MRB bear to see you bickering over these small points.

M I only argue with people I appreciate. If I don't care about someone, I
M don't bother to discuss/argue with him/her.

I know. And it's between you and Allie, anyway. Since you don't want
coffee, can I offer you a beer?

MRB Long live the cut-mark! Long live Miguel, Allie, Leif, and Marck.
MRB Actually, I had taken a vow to stay out of this thread, further, but
MRB you are irresistible. :)

M Err, are you married Mary? ;-)

No, but I'm way too old for you. :) Unless you believe in December-May
arrangements. :) Happy upcoming Valentine's Day to Miguel!

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MAU,

on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:46:33 +0100GMT, you wrote:

 Three lines isn't much, right. But what should be wrong about
 courtesy? :-)

M Don't misunderstand me. Of course there is nothing wrong with courtesy.
M But why ask for courtesy at the end of the message (where no one looks
M anyway) and not at the beginning (where every one does look)?

Right. Let's look at both ends. *S*

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SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations

2004-02-04 Thread Chris

I just started playing with SmartBat and I found the Evaluate
function. So, to get a feel for things, I tried a few expressions:

2+4   = 6 (Okay)
2*4   = 8 (Looking good...)
5^2   = 7 (What!?! 5 squared is 25. Wait a minute. What if...)
1^1   = 0 (Yup! It's XORing not raising to a power.)
1|2   = 3 (And this is OR)
1|2|4 = 7 (So it this)
71   = 1 (This is AND)
41   = 0 (So it this)
5**2  = 25(That's better!)
2*5**2= 100   (Hunh? It should be 50.)
2*(5**25) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.)
sqrt(25)  = Error (No sqrt [square root] function? Oh well...)
25**.5= 5 (I know how to get around that problem!)

Everything seems to make sense (after I got over the binary math)
except this:
2*5**2= 100   (Hunh? It should be 50.)

This seemed to be evaluated as:
(2*5)**2
(10)**2
100
and not
2*(5**2)
2*(25)
100

If I remember correctly, in the order of operations (PEMDAS),
exponentiation comes after parentheses and before multiplication and
division, which come before addition and subtraction.

So, is this a problem with SmartBat's Evaluate function, the %CALC
macro, the library (if any) RitLabs used to implement this
functionality, or my memory?

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 No, but I'm way too old for you. :) Unless you believe in December-May
 arrangements. :)

Way to old for me? What do you know? I'm not a kid any more. Actually, I
haven't been a kid for many many years. And when I say many many I mean
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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Mary R Bull
Hello MAU!

On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 5:22 PM, you wrote:

MRB No, but I'm way too old for you. :) Unless you believe in December-May
MRB arrangements. :)

M Way to old for me? What do you know? I'm not a kid any more. Actually, I
M haven't been a kid for many many years. And when I say many many I mean
M many many. :)

So, send me a Reply template that will strip out all that
beginning-stuff which posters so often put in before getting to the
point, and I'll send you a valentine, and we'll see how it goes! :)

How many grandchildren do you have? g

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 So, send me a Reply template that will strip out all that
 beginning-stuff which posters so often put in before getting to the
 point, and I'll send you a valentine, and we'll see how it goes! :)

Just include this macro at the beginning of your template:

%REDUNDANTANDUNNECESSARYINFO=%-

 How many grandchildren do you have? g

None. But I won't tell you why :)

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Re: SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations

2004-02-04 Thread tb

-- Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 5:16:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just started playing with SmartBat and I found the Evaluate
 function. So, to get a feel for things, I tried a few expressions:

 2+4   = 6 (Okay)
 2*4   = 8 (Looking good...)
 5^2   = 7 (What!?! 5 squared is 25. Wait a minute. What if...)
 1^1   = 0 (Yup! It's XORing not raising to a power.)
 1|2   = 3 (And this is OR)
 1|2|4 = 7 (So it this)
 71   = 1 (This is AND)
 41   = 0 (So it this)
 5**2  = 25(That's better!)
 2*5**2= 100   (Hunh? It should be 50.)
 2*(5**25) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.)
 sqrt(25)  = Error (No sqrt [square root] function? Oh well...)
 25**.5= 5 (I know how to get around that problem!)

 Everything seems to make sense (after I got over the binary math)
 except this:
 2*5**2= 100   (Hunh? It should be 50.)

 This seemed to be evaluated as:
 (2*5)**2
 (10)**2
 100
 and not
 2*(5**2)
 2*(25)
 100

 If I remember correctly, in the order of operations (PEMDAS),
 exponentiation comes after parentheses and before multiplication and
 division, which come before addition and subtraction.

 So, is this a problem with SmartBat's Evaluate function, the %CALC
 macro, the library (if any) RitLabs used to implement this
 functionality, or my memory?

I'm not sure what you're trying to do but I just started my own set
of macros today and two of the macros may interest you. One evaluates
python expressions, and the other executes python code.

So if you want to perform various math, and more, these are my results :

  2+4   : 6
  2*4   : 8
  5^2   : 7
  1^1   : 0
  1|1   : 1
  1|2|4 : 7
  71   : 1
  41   : 0
  5**2  : 0
  25: 0
  2*5**2: 50
  2*(5**25) : 596046447753906250L
  2*(5**2)  : 50
  25**.5: 5.0
  
  import math
  math.sqrt(25) : 5.0
  
  address = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  user,domain = address.split('@')
  
  user  : 'tb'
  domain: 'kaishaku.org'

You can probably do just about anything you want.

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Mary R Bull
Hello MAU!

On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 5:39 PM, you wrote:

MRB So, send me a Reply template that will strip out all that
MRB beginning-stuff which posters so often put in before getting to the
MRB point, and I'll send you a valentine, and we'll see how it goes! :)

M Just include this macro at the beginning of your template:

M %REDUNDANTANDUNNECESSARYINFO=%-

Done. Thanks a million. :)

MRB How many grandchildren do you have? g

M None. But I won't tell you why :)

Not relevant anyway. G Not really a very good clue to one's age. :)

Since we both prefer plain text, here's your valentine message from
me:

Happy Valentine to Miguel,
Who writes templates so well,
Who likes beer and likes coffee,
Though his age he won't tell!
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Re: SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations

2004-02-04 Thread Chris
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 4-Feb-2004 6:16:43 PM
SmartBat's Evaluate Function and Order of Operations mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2*(5**25) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.)
I have mis-typed. This line should read:
2*(5**2) = 50(Ah! A problem with the order of operations.)

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Re: Filter on attachment file name

2004-02-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo cs4l,

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:36:05 +0100GMT (4-2-04, 21:36 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

c I'm trying to filter emails that have been shrunk by Norton Antivirus.
c The attachment file is then called:
c Suppression de Norton Antivirus1.txt

TB won't filter on attachments, not on their name and not on their
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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

 Though his age he won't tell!

I won't tell but I can write it :) I'll be 61 in two months from today.

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Re: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support)

2004-02-04 Thread Mary R Bull
Hello MAU!

On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 6:13 PM, you wrote:

MRB Though his age he won't tell!

Indispensable Miguel!!

M I won't tell but I can write it :) I'll be 61 in two months from
M today.

Then I shall also write a birthday rhyme for you!

I'll be 77 in about 3 months. And I have one grandchild, who'll be 21
in two days and was born in a February snowstorm.

BTW, that template only seems to work on messages from you. g :)

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mod: Off-topic (Was: Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support))

2004-02-04 Thread Allie Martin
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote:

MB I'll be 77 in about 3 months. And I have one grandchild, who'll be 21
MB in two days and was born in a February snowstorm.

MB BTW, that template only seems to work on messages from you. g :)

Ok. It's time guys. :))

moderator

I deleted an account and deleted my moderatorial templates. ooops!!!

Anyway, not to ever single you out Mary. ;)

This thread has gone on long enough and has even drifted into the
off-topic realm.

Time to move it to TBOT. Thanks!!

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Re: mod: Off-topic (Was: Re[2]: Why repeat info ? (was: Re: cut-line RFC and client support))

2004-02-04 Thread Mary R Bull
Hello Allie!
On Wednesday, February 04, 2004, 6:37 PM, you wrote:
AM Mary Bull, [MB] wrote:
snip
AM Ok. It's time guys. :))
AM moderator
AM I deleted an account and deleted my moderatorial templates. ooops!!!
AM Anyway, not to ever single you out Mary. ;)
AM This thread has gone on long enough and has even drifted into the
AM off-topic realm.
Indisputably. I'm sorry. :)
AM Time to move it to TBOT. Thanks!!
Gone. :)

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monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists

2004-02-04 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

have you any filters to monitor mails to you on mailinglists? I'd like
to have a special folder, with references/links to mails that were
written as a response to sth I wrote (on a mailinglist).

For now, I've setup a Incoming mail filter (on top of filter list,
straight after the move POPFile-spam out filter), which checks for my domain
name and special writing of my firstname in the Recipient field.
Matched messages then get a special colour group (never used them
before) and a copy of the mail is put to a special folder.
This is not what I really like to have, but my first approach.

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BeginFilter
Name: mark messages to me
Active: 1
Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Target: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CopyFolder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to me
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|dAniel
Actions: faCopyMsg,faoContinueProcessing,faSetColor
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: mailtome
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter
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Re: monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists

2004-02-04 Thread MAU
Hello dAniel,

 have you any filters to monitor mails to you on mailinglists? I'd like
 to have a special folder, with references/links to mails that were
 written as a response to sth I wrote (on a mailinglist).

This is the one I use that I call To_me and all it does is assign to
R_to_me colour group.

BeginFilter
Name: To_me
Active: 1
Source: \\MAU\Inbox
Target: \\MAU\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: faoContinueProcessing,faoRegExp,faSetColor
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: R_to_me
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


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Re: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-04 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Douglas,

On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 1:28:28 AM, you wrote
re: Scroll Wheel Problem:


DH Hello Michael  other TB! list members following this thread,

DH On Sunday, December 14, 2003, you wrote:

MSG I'm using TB 2.02.3 on a computer running Windows XP.

DH I'm using TB! 1.62r and running WinXPPro.

MSG For some reason, my mouse scroll wheel doesn't work in TB. It's fine
MSG in all my other programs, but not in TB.  I'm using a Logitech
MSG MouseMan Wheel connected to a USB port and I'm using Logitech's
MSG mouseware software to configure the mouse (can't seem to locate the
MSG version number).

DH Logitech's trackball is the best cursor solution there is, IMO.

MSG Anyone else have this problem?

MSG Any suggestions how I can get the wheel to work?

DH Yes. Download, install and configure KatMouse for TB. It's freeware
DH and will give you scrolling in any app., even old win apps.

DH KatMouse - mouse wheel utility for Windows
DH http://kickme.to/katmouse
DH http://eduard.hiti.bei.t-online.de/

I reported this problem several versions ago and it still has not been
fixed. I too have a Logitech mouse that works in all other
applications. I just purchased a Contour mouse it has the same problem
with only The Bat. I wish the developers would look into this (or give
me my money back). :(

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Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-04 Thread malexander
Hello Wayne,

Thursday, February 5, 2004, 2:01:57 AM, you wrote:


WH I reported this problem several versions ago and it still has not been
WH fixed. I too have a Logitech mouse that works in all other
WH applications. I just purchased a Contour mouse it has the same problem
WH with only The Bat. I wish the developers would look into this (or give
WH me my money back). :(

I started all this off when I complained that my that my Logitech
Trackman cordless wouldn't work in TB and got several people telling
me their rodents worked fine.  At least I'm glad to know it *isn't*
just me.

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Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem

2004-02-04 Thread Bill Blinn - Technology Editor
At 9:16 PM on 2/4/2004, malexander typed ...

m I started all this off when I complained that my that my Logitech
m Trackman cordless wouldn't work in TB and got several people telling
m me their rodents worked fine.  At least I'm glad to know it *isn't*
m just me.

I have a Logitech MX500 and the scroll wheel works properly, but there
are two buttons that scroll up and down in most applications. The
cursor changes in TB, but no scrolling occurs EXCEPT in the editor (I
just tried it in this message and it works.)


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Re: monitor/mark messages to me on mailinglists

2004-02-04 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Thu, 5. Feb 2004 at 02:22:47 +0100 MAU wrote:

M MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's better.. (with my domain of course) :)

While playing with this I wanted to apply the filter on old mails in
folders where they got sorted.
That's possible with applying a hotkey for the filter, because the
source folder will not be checked.
But unfortunately the mails get moved to the main Move-To-Folder of
the filter (which is Inbox, as it's an Inbox filter).

Is there no way to have filters without moving?
This could be done by a simple checkbox Don't move with Move
messages to folder on the filter's main page.

I hope that the new upcoming filtering system will provide such
possibilities (and a lot more).


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Re[3]: Message Pane Question

2004-02-04 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Allie,
Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 1:32:33 PM, you wrote:


Snip

AM I think his problem is not with a space occupying object in the message
AM viewer space, which in this case, happens to be a blinking sliver of
AM black that represents the cursor. His problem is similar to mine in that
AM when the cursor is in the viewer, one has to watch the cursor make its
AM way to the bottom of the screen before any scrolling starts. If we're
AM not editing, then why have a cursor there to be causing this shortfall.

Yes this was my problem.

AM Holding down the alt-key while scrolling prevents that inconvenience.
AM However, it's tacky to do so on a regular basis. One good solution would
AM be to use the spacebar and get accustomed to full page scrolling or use
AM the Rich Text Viewer.

 The combination of rich text viewer and spacebar solves my problems.
 Amazing the things I have yet to learn. :)
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Message Dispatcher defaults

2004-02-04 Thread Stan Robins
How can the Read flag be set to be unchecked when Message Dispatcher
starts? I tried to find the answer to this in the archives, but there
didn't seem to be an answer on point.

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