Bug pressure?
Hello TBUDLers, What does it take to get a bug looked at lately? I posted this bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002755 on March 31st and, apart from a 'similar to' and a 'still happening?' bugnote, there has been no communication that it is even being looked at or further questions to zero in or suggestions for things to try, let alone a fix. What is other people's experience with bug resolution? I've constantly added more info as I can and as my last bugnote says I'm starting to get really hacked off with this problem. Are there that many bugs that it takes two months to even get to this one? Excuse a bit of a rant - one of those weeks! -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
International pack
Hello All, I'm using the latest version of the International pack but I miss The Dutch spelling checker in it. (It will give me a Dutch menu but not the spelling checker). I've reinstalled it again but that does not solve it. What is wrong? Should I go back to an earlier International pack (when it was still a .exe file and not a msi file?) -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.10.03, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once. To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp2xRPkrUzJI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
X-Ray: why?
Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? -- Michael L. Wilson Philospher Teacher Critic Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) Using The Bat! version 2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Nod32 anti-virus PopFile anti-Spam Outpost Pro Firewall Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The best templates
I see a great amny good templates in this forum. Anyone want to upload and share their best templates so that I can learn? -- Michael L. Wilson Philospher Teacher Critic Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) Using The Bat! version 2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Nod32 anti-virus spampal anti-Spam Outpost Pro Firewall Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:14:25 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? There are two reasons you might wish to use X-Ray. One is that is allows you to modify the headers in your email messages - it is a quite sophisticated program in this respect. The other reason is if you are using TB! on a laptop, for example, and may need to send messages through a variety of SMTP servers. In this case you tell TB that the SMTP server is Localhost (X-Ray) and X-Ray can either manually or automatically choose the SMTP server. For example, I used X-Ray to choose between a Work (Exchange), Home (DSL) and Mobile (Dial-up) SMTP server, which it did automatically depending on the IP address the laptop had been allocated. I don't do this now, as my ISP has an option of Authenticated SMTP, so I can send mail through my ISP's SMTP servers whichever network I am connected to. Hope this helps! [ps - your sig delimited is broken. It should be [dash][dash][space] Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The best templates
Hello Michael, Friday, May 28, 2004, 9:13:19 AM, you wrote: MLW I see a great amny good templates in this forum. Anyone want to MLW upload and share their best templates so that I can learn? http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html http://www.immer-international.de/tb_en/index.html You might want to take a look at the plugins too. MLW Michael L. Wilson MLW Philospher MLW Teacher MLW Critic In that order? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! or not TB ? (..that is the question..)
Hello TBUD Listees I have resumed the vain search for the perfect mailer, which of course is different things to different people (and a futile quest for all!). I keep coming back to The Bat! (TB!), despite not liking its (to me unappealing) appearance, its buggy HTML editing etc BUT...it has so many pluses. I am using IMAP in Mozilla ThunderBird (TB...or T-Bird if you like) and in TB! Both have their pluses and minuses. I don't find IMAP in TB! too bad... Also I like TB! 's speed...it opens up faster than most mailers and seems to do various operations as faster or faster than most... TB! gives you plenty of options too...and lets you know what is going on...(eg when sending/receiving mail...I like that...) However T-Bird has some real pluses too (a lot of FastMail devotees seem to use it too)...especially for a freebie... Anyone else tried both T-Bird and TB!...especially IMAP?? -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 17:31 Friday, 28 May 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why should I use PGP ?
Hello, Why should I use PGP ? [no sig and no delimiters, because my ISP spoils them and the moderators don't like it] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! or not TB ? (..that is the question..)
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 3:41 AM, you wrote: S However T-Bird has some real pluses too (a lot of FastMail devotees S seem to use it too)...especially for a freebie... S Anyone else tried both T-Bird and TB!...especially IMAP?? I went the other way. I gave up my fastmail.fm account, because I couldn't get the IMAP to work right in TB. It was easier to use my free Yahoo account ( or others:) than fight IMAP. Allie probably wouldn't agree with me about my choice ;) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A template and clipboard challenge
I have a template which requires the same piece of text (which is in the system clipboard) inserted in two places. The challenge is: How to code the template so that it automatically takes the contents of the clipboard and inserts it in the two places. At the moment I have the %CURSOR at the first insertion point so I just hit CTRL-V but then have to click the second place and repeat before clicking SEND. Possible? Pipedream? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat 2.10.03 with POPFile 0.21.1 on XP Pro v2002 SP1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A template and clipboard challenge
Dear Marten, @28-May-2004, 12:36 Marten Gallagher [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip MG How to code the template so that it automatically takes the MG contents of the clipboard and inserts it in the two places. MG At the moment I have the %CURSOR at the first insertion point so MG I just hit CTRL-V but then have to click the second place and MG repeat before clicking SEND. Use the %CLIPBOARD content to paste the clipboard content at any point in any template. Easy when you know how :-). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpFCQ1tlwdU5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 00:14:25 -0700, @ @ when Michael L. Wilson wrote: Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? It depends on what you want/need. Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the sent line in my headers). Generally, it serves for editing (in/out) header part of a message, as Julian already explained. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A challenge/response to TBUDL identity
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Tue, 18 May 2004, at 13:47:49 +0200, @ @ when Roelof Otten wrote: I was out(door) for a while, and my response is a bit late. :) MM but I'd like if I could create one which deletes from server. For MM the ordinary one I use return path line in 'kludges' and MM '[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject' part (the later could MM be even shorter) in 'text'. I guess I'd go for the return path and only the list address, but that's a matter of taste. Yes, thanks, that's a best solution. (I was not sure, in that time, if these messages were a spam, so I could't rely on return path, since in a such case this line often is not the same.) MM Since it is combination of 'kludge' and 'body' text, I cannot see MM the way how to implement that in selective download filter. Is it MM possible at all? No. It wouldn't do you any good either. In order to scan the body for a string, the body has to be downloaded. It isn't really worth your effort to download the body in order to decide whether you want to download it. ;-) Hehe... Obviously. This part I completely forgot. Thanks for reminding me. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Mon, 17 May 2004, at 12:31:15 -0500, @ @ when Allie Martin wrote: Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM I still do not understand why one uses such a programs when there MM are excellent free command line archivers one can do anything with MM by batch files. Even better and might be even faster. TB! isn't the only thing I backup. I backup *all*, via ARJ (2.60). :-) Version 2.8x is in some aspects better, but generally it runs markedly slower. It's certainly faster for me to point and click into effect, some of the backups that I do. I really can't be bothered with tweaking and testing batch scripts. :) I also do that with a mere click. :-) I click (or Start - Run - 'bkupall'), and bkupall.bat calls all the bunch of other about 50 .bat files which do their jobs collectively and diligently. When I feel lazy, I schedule the bkupall.bat to run each hour, or in every 27 minutes. Tweaking and testing batch scripts you do only once. :-) Same as when you configure any other backup program. I don't mind buying and using Second Copy to make it easier for me. Time isn't an issue since my backups are done automatically and while I'm asleep. I know that one can do it other ways and with tools already in their possession. It's up to you really, and I don't see the point of making an issue out of how one chooses to do it. shrug Well, that part was certainly my omission to understand motives and habits of others. I see my mistake now and I agree, with what you say. Although I just had offered a cheaper and faster way (perhaps even more reliable one, and safer for OS). If no one is interested in, I am back in my grotto. :-) -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Tue, 18 May 2004, at 02:40:19 +0200, @ @ when MAU wrote: Hello Mica, MAU. :-) (In Serbian/Croatian mau means miaow. :-) It's cute.) I still do not understand why one uses such a programs... You don't have to understand anything. Do you like blue colour? I don't and maybe you do, that is all there is to it. Well, a colour is a matter of so called taste, or of aesthetic moment (although it has even some functional influence in a given circumstances, one must admit), while I observe a computer contraptions before all as a technical thing which I judge of against effectiveness. My attention was too unilateral, I see now, so I couldn't understand the whole picture. When I was a kid, I didn't like spinach. Even today, I don't like some musical genres (as modern country songs, although they do a great job in terms of socialization, observing the thing in a non-musical way, purely anthropologically, et sim.) Thanks again for the Sel. Download filter. :-) -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT) The best templates
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 09:39:01 +0200, @ @ when Mark Partous wrote: MLW Michael L. Wilson MLW Philospher MLW Teacher MLW Critic In that order? :-) giggling Well, firstly the love toward wisdom is born. Then the impulse for sharing some of it appears. Then the one asks himself: what have I done... (duh is optional) I think the order (observing cosmogonicaly) is OK. :-) Sorry for interhorsing, but I couldn't resist. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A template and clipboard challenge
Dear Marten, Use the %CLIPBOARD content to paste the clipboard content at any point in any template. Easy when you know how :-). You're just trying to make me look silly!! :-) I hunted through all the macros offered in the macroi editing template - but I'm sure it wasn't there. Thanks - works a dream. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat 2.10.03 with POPFile 0.21.1 on XP Pro v2002 SP1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
Hi Michael. At 3:14 AM on Friday, May 28, 2004 it seems you posted the following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to X-Ray: why?: A less techie type reason was, that until recently, TB! users could not control their x-mailer header. As a consequence there were some over ambitious or ignorant services that filtered out The Bat! email because somewhere/sometime ago TB! was mentioned as a client that could be easily automated for spamming purposes. Of course, TB! licensing expresses prohibits it's use for spamming but never mind; there are a lot of really dumb administrators out there. X-ray allowed TB! users to change the x-mailer header as well as other functions as others have explained. TB! users can now turn off the x-mailer header which avoids the problem. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11 Beta/8/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A template and clipboard challenge
Dear Rich, @28-May-2004, 09:29 -0400 (28-May 14:29 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP Use %CLIPBOARD to paste the clipboard content at any point RG We see here we can paste the clipboard contents into a message RG under construction BUT is there a way to copy *TO* the clipboard RG via a macro? No - you'll have to get yourself familiar with PowerPro for that. http://www.windowspowerpro.com -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpHmjSVRekQ9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT) The best templates
Hello Mica, Friday, May 28, 2004, 5:50:32 AM, you wrote: Mica giggling Mica Well, firstly the love toward wisdom is born. Mica Then the impulse for sharing some of it appears. Mica Then the one asks himself: what have I done... (duh is optional) Mica I think the order (observing cosmogonicaly) is OK. :-) Mica Sorry for interhorsing, but I couldn't resist. Whatever the heck that topic on TBOT was where everyone was being poetic, I think you'd fit right into that thread if it still exists! ;-) -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
Hallo Mica, On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the MM time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the MM sent line in my headers). But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss? ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to delete a message from the server?
I notice that using a filter one can delete a message from the server. Is there a way to configure it so that a message from a particular email address is deleted on the server without the message being also downloaded to my PC? -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a message from the server?
Hi Costas. At 11:00 AM on Friday, May 28, 2004 it seems you posted the following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to How to delete a message from the server?: Is there a way to configure it so that a message from a particular email address is deleted on the server without the message being also downloaded to my PC? Yes Look in filters | action tab | delete from server HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11 Beta/8/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bad Processing of Browser's Send Command
This is a follow-up to previous posts concerning TB!'s poor processing in some circumstances of a browser's mailto: or send command. Another example--though it may take a little work to test this--is from the online NY Times of May 28, 2004. http://www.nytimes.com Toward the right side of the main index page, there's a box referring to Review: Painters of Reality, about an exhibit of Italian art. Click on Slide Show. This might require registering at the site, but it's free. From any image in the slide show, right-clicking in a Mozilla-based browser (I'm using a nightly build from February) gives a Send image command. Left-click that command, and TB! comes up. The link, however, appears not only in the main body but also in the TO: field. If this is confirmed, I'll search the bug db and, if not already there, I'll file it. -- JN Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug pressure?
Quoting Allister Jenks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello TBUDLers, Are there that many bugs that it takes two months to even get to this one? I have been in Software QA for over 25 years. I just want to say that a bug like you posted looks a great deal like a problem with your computer. I run Windows XP, and a format and reinstall every six months. One reason is that I have worked in software QA at Microsoft and their software is very unstable. Every six months, I back up my data, reformat and reinstall. It keeps windows stable and fast. So, when was the last time you reinstalled windows? Michael This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New TB! release June 1, 2004
Hello all tbudl subsccribers! Is anyone planning to download the new version of TB! promised to be available on June 1? I just received an announcement of it in a newsletter from RITLABS [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It says, in part, Ritlabs is glad to announce a new version of The Bat! program with an unique feature of Mail Chat that will be published on June 1, 2004. What do you think? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! release June 1, 2004
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 11:56:06 AM, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Hello all tbudl subsccribers! MB Is anyone planning to download the new version of TB! promised to be MB available on June 1? MB I just received an announcement of it in a newsletter from RITLABS MB [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It says, in part, Ritlabs is glad to announce a MB new version of The Bat! program with an unique feature of Mail Chat MB that will be published on June 1, 2004. MB What do you think? I think that they should fix the outstanding bugs and problems before adding new features... jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! release June 1, 2004
Hello Mary! On Friday, May 28, 2004, 10:56 AM, you wrote: MB Hello all tbudl subsccribers! Oh, well, fumble-fingers strikes again! Sorry for the typo, everyone! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: viewing HTML messages in specific folders only
Hello Leif, Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 12:58:30 AM, you wrote: LG Hi DB, LG On Tue, 25 May 2004, at 17:31:23 [GMT -0500] (which was 4:31 PM where LG I live) you wrote: D I'd like to view messages in HTML in only a specific set of D folders(trusted messages). Is this possible in any form(or even the D inverse as I could check off folders not to view in HTML)? LG Not that I'm aware of. But that sounds like a nice idea. I introduced it in the whishlist on 26 Apr 2003 16:09. I asked for the option to set the reader to automatically read HTML (override the general setup) on a per-folder-basis? The status has changed from new to reviewed on 07 Sep 2003 08:23. No note has been added by anyone. It must be most people don't like the idea. Those who want to support it, can leave a note in the Bugtrack https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php bug id: 0001270 -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: viewing HTML messages in specific folders only
Hello Mark, Friday, May 28, 2004, 11:13:59 AM, you wrote: Mark Those who want to support it, can leave a note in the Bugtrack Mark https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php bug id: 0001270 Done... Thanks. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: CAUTION: This Tagline offensive to some audiences. Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! release June 1, 2004
Hello Paul! On Friday, May 28, 2004, 12:28 PM, you wrote: MB Hello all tbudl subsccribers! MB MB Oh, well, fumble-fingers strikes again! Sorry for the typo, everyone! PC:42: Just Trilling along. :) PCjust for you Mary! oh, wait, you don't use the beta do you?? PC you NEED to get that beta:) So, here's one vote that I get it. :) Well, you're the one that nagged me into learning how to configure TB! for comcast.net, so your voice counts heavily with me. :) I need to respond to Leif and thank him for the special h2g2 smilies. But I'm too shy to post on tbbeta. :( Perhaps I should wait for next Tuesday to download--a new release with Mail Chat and possibly smilies also. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! release June 1, 2004
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:59:13 -0500GMT (28-5-04, 17:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MB Hello all tbudl subsccribers! MB MB Oh, well, fumble-fingers strikes again! Sorry for the typo, everyone! Did you ever consider a address book template for new messages to tbudl (or for replies), that might prevent these kind of things in the future. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 16:37:52 +0200, @ @ when Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Mica, On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the MM time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the MM sent line in my headers). But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss? ;-) What fuse? 8-) I use it from two reasons: 1) The time I sent it from my contraption is not same time the contraption of my ISP has (re)sent it from. But it is not so significant. 2) It is written in a much more user friendly form, so that even those not that skilled in reading headers can find it easily. A sub-reason 2a) is that I can add some specific data about specific profile of my communication contraption system, related to the time a message is living it, which means something to some of my correspondents, and to me myself. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT) The best templates
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 08:11:51 -0600, @ @ when Leif Gregory wrote: Hello Mica, Leif. Friday, May 28, 2004, 5:50:32 AM, you wrote: Mica giggling Mica Well, firstly the love toward wisdom is born. Mica Then the impulse for sharing some of it appears. Mica Then the one asks himself: what have I done... (duh is optional) Mica I think the order (observing cosmogonicaly) is OK. :-) Mica Sorry for interhorsing, but I couldn't resist. Whatever the heck that topic on TBOT was where everyone was being poetic, I think you'd fit right into that thread if it still exists! ;-) I apologize. Poetry happens. I didn't mean to keep moderators busy. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT) The best templates
Hello Mica, Friday, May 28, 2004, 11:13:54 AM, you wrote: Whatever the heck that topic on TBOT was where everyone was being poetic, I think you'd fit right into that thread if it still exists! ;-) Mica I apologize. Poetry happens. I didn't mean to keep moderators busy. No apology needed. I wasn't moderating you, I was just commenting, that I think you'd fit in perfectly on the TBOT list when they start getting poetic on each other. grin -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street? Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! release June 1, 2004
Hello Roelof! On Friday, May 28, 2004, 12:33 PM, you wrote: MB Sorry for the typo, everyone! RO Did you ever consider a address book template for new messages to RO tbudl (or for replies), that might prevent these kind of things in the RO future. Thanks. You are always my practical friend. I knew that I should have it--just, since early days when I didn't know how, hadn't made one. I seldom have occasion to send a new message here. I'll go straight and take your advice now. Have had one in the AB Reply template for some time, already. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: viewing HTML messages in specific folders only
Hello Mark, On Fri, 28 May 2004 19:13:59 +0200 GMT (29/05/2004, 00:13 +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: D I'd like to view messages in HTML in only a specific set of D folders(trusted messages). Is this possible in any form(or even the D inverse as I could check off folders not to view in HTML)? MP The status has changed from new to reviewed on 07 Sep 2003 08:23. MP No note has been added by anyone. MP It must be most people don't like the idea. I do. MP Those who want to support it, can leave a note in the Bugtrack MP https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php bug id: 0001270 Bugnote added. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Important warning for aircraft pilots: Teeth that have been improperly filled cause problems with altitude or rapid decompressions. The higher pressure under the filling will cause excruciating pain and in rare instances can cause the tooth to explode. An exploding tooth would be distracting. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (SOT) The best templates
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 11:43:09 -0600, @ @ when Leif Gregory wrote: Hello Mica, Friday, May 28, 2004, 11:13:54 AM, you wrote: Whatever the heck that topic on TBOT was where everyone was being poetic, I think you'd fit right into that thread if it still exists! ;-) Mica I apologize. Poetry happens. I didn't mean to keep moderators busy. No apology needed. I wasn't moderating you, I was just commenting, that I think you'd fit in perfectly on the TBOT list when they start getting poetic on each other. grin I read too fast today. :-) Going to see. Thanks. So, they're putting poetry on each other... -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! release June 1, 2004
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 1:32 PM, you wrote: MB ed to respond to Leif and thank him for the special smilies. MB But I'm too shy to post on tbbeta. so send it up to tbot!! that's where we moved my dinner thread.. MB Perhaps I should wait for next Tuesday to download--a new release with MB Mail Chat and possibly smilies also. don't wait!! it's working NOW!!! If you haven't seen the :42: you MUST!!! h2g2 was cool too! you can see them if you just download that file, oh, wait, maybe that only works in TB.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB! version
Hello fellow tbudl subscribers! *and Leif* Leif, thank you! I appreciate the two *Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* emoticons that you created for Trill (my aka name, going back to the time when I didn't even know who Douglas Adams was, which you gave me over a year ago as a nickname that I treasure). So now I will have to get out of my comfortable, old-shoe version, with bugs and features that I'm used to, and learn the latest TB!, after June 1, 2004. I read the entire thread (threads) about it on tbbeta, but I have a fixed policy of only lurking there. 42. g Trill. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB! version
Hello Mary, Friday, May 28, 2004, 12:14:12 PM, you wrote: Mary So now I will have to get out of my comfortable, old-shoe Mary version, with bugs and features that I'm used to, and learn the Mary latest TB!, after June 1, 2004. It's not so bad! grin and you're welcome. You know I luv ya'. When I decided to try and make an emoticon for TB, there wasn't any hesitation, you came to mind immediately upon the question of What should I make. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Brain over - Insert coin Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: was Re: (SOT) The best templates
Hello Mica, Friday, May 28, 2004, 12:08:15 PM, you wrote: Mica I read too fast today. :-) Going to see. Thanks. So, they're Mica putting poetry on each other... Oh yeah... It's positively, stomach-turning nauseating! ;-) Moved to TBOT. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Ba a rebel. Stay up past your bedtime! Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/8 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB! version
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 2:14 PM, you wrote: MB I read the entire thread (threads) about it on tbbeta, but I have a MB fixed policy of only lurking there. MB 42. g Trill. make it :42: that makes it use the emoticon :) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0422-1 (27.05.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a message from the server?
Hello Costas, Is there a way to configure it so that a message from a particular email address is deleted on the server without the message being also downloaded to my PC? Try a Selective Download filter. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deleting all emails before synchronise - easy way
Before I synchronise my desktop with my laptop prior to going away from home office; and because synchronise simply adds to the existing emails; i.e: stuff that was on both machines but has been deleted from the Desktop will not be deleted from the Laptop when synchronising... I need to... Delete all emails from the Laptop - BUT NOT the account settings. My feeling is that if I delete the .TBI and the .TBB files only that will remove all emails from the Laptop but leave the account settings, filters, templates etc in place. Am I right? And anyway why shouldn't I just copy the Desktop .TBI and .TBB files and overwrite their equivalents on the Laptop and be done with it? Of course, if I'm missign a trick about synchronising whereby stuff that has been deleted from the Desktop can be set to be deleted from the Laptop then that would solve the issue but my guess is that there's no way for the Laptop to know what's deleted 'cos, by definition, there's no trace of them. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat 2.10.03 with POPFile 0.21.1 on XP Pro v2002 SP1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting all emails before synchronise - easy way
Hello Marten, And anyway why shouldn't I just copy the Desktop .TBI and .TBB files and overwrite their equivalents on the Laptop and be done with it? Yes, that works. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! or not TB ? (..that is the question..)
Sl, [S] wrote: S Anyone else tried both T-Bird and TB!...especially IMAP?? I more than try them since I currently use them. :) ThunderBird's IMAP support works more reliably, especially with a wider variety of connection speeds and servers. However, it's a basic client otherwise. I fight with its lack of other features, i.e., a good editor, quick templates and other templates, poor identity support without the facility to tie identities to mailboxes. I feel like I'm back to the good old days of doing everything manually rather than in an automated fashion. The only plus with ThunderBird is Enigmail. I really like the autoverification of PGP signatures as well as the suppression of the ineligible text in inline PGP signatures. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11 Beta/8 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpI9pIq2WYu4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The world's most useful filter
Dear Rich, @28-May-2004, 20:43 -0400 (29-May 01:43 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RG Assume a legit email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG A filter to DISALLOW any random variant combinations, such as RG richier or richiew, but would allow (of course) my legit RG richieg. BeginFilter Name: Only Richie's Mail Active: 1 Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash MainSet: 10Richie[^g] Actions: faMarkRead,faoRegExp EndFilter Copy that block (including BeginFilter and EndFilter) to the clipboard. Open your sorting office, open and click into the Incoming mail folder (anywhere) and press Ctrl-V. Use the Move Up/Down to position the filter for optimum effect. Enjoy. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgphklocdNMVs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug pressure?
Saturday, May 29, 2004, 3:54:38 AM, michael wrote: I have been in Software QA for over 25 years. I just want to say that a bug like you posted looks a great deal like a problem with your computer. I totally agree that's what it could be. My point was that pretty much nothing had been said in the BugTracker. If it sounds to the folks at RIT like a Windows problem, they are quite at liberty to say so. I'm not professionally in software QA, but I have been in development and development/QA support for almost 17 years (so call me a newbie) and I am well aware of the nature of bugs and 'features' of software. For one thing, I know it is important to gather as much information as you resonably can before trying to track down the cause of a problem... snip So, when was the last time you reinstalled windows? ...like, for instance, reading all the attached bugnotes. One of these says I reinstalled XP on 18th May. ;-) Such a shame that TB! doesn't run on OS/400. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The world's most useful filter
***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 20:43:21 -0400, @ @ when rich gregory wrote: If anyone there can elp with this it would be the MOST HELPFUL FILTER EVER! Assume a legit email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] A filter to DISALLOW any random variant combinations, such as richier or richiew, but would allow (of course) my legit richieg. Any ideas, you TB! code barons? One of variants is that you make a Selective Download filter and allow only specifically addressed mail to get through it. One of these addresses would be that with legit richieg. But, with a such filter one should be careful, since you could find that you deleted what you wouldn't want (althoguh you would know that from LOG). Example for something like that is: Selective Download - Rule: Entire header | Advanced: Action - Kill, Detection method - None of strings should match. In a such filter I have all addresses of things I'm subscribed in, plus few modes of my own address. E.g.: To: Mica Mijatovic blueness To: Mica Mijatovic blueness To: blueness@ Reply-To: tbudl@ Reply-To: tbtech@ Reply-To: tbot@ etc. It works pretty good, and kills a lot of spam. If some other baron(ess) has another idea I'd like to hear. -- Mica Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB! version
Saturday, May 29, 2004, 6:14:12 AM, Mary wrote: all manner of stuff about the meaning of life... Surely this thread is: 1) OT 2) Beta related 3) A personal chit-chat referring to others of same ilk 4) Making some people wonder What the hell are they talking about? and therefore 5) Not appropriate for this list 6) Inappropriate for a moderator to join in Just my opinion, of course. refrains from further references to...you know what -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]
Hello Allister! On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:27 PM, you wrote: AJ Surely this thread is: AJ 1) OT AJ 2) Beta related AJ 3) A personal chit-chat referring to others of same ilk AJ 4) Making some people wonder What the hell are they talking about? AJ and therefore AJ 5) Not appropriate for this list AJ 6) Inappropriate for a moderator to join in My apologies. Should have posted to tbot. However, it is somewhat on topic for tbudl, in that emoticons will be available in the announced release of a new version of The Bat! by RitLabs to be published next Tuesday, June 1, 2004. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a message from the server?
Hello Jan, Friday, May 28, 2004, 6:16:34 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Look in filters | action tab | delete from server I tried that already. I tested it by making a filter to delete messages from the sender where the sender is myself. I sent a message to myself, but unfortunately the message still arrived in my inbox and was, of course, deleted from the server. My objective was to have the message deleted without it being also downloaded to my inbox. -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]
Hello Mary, On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:11:03 -0500 GMT (29/05/2004, 09:11 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB My apologies. Should have posted to tbot. However, it is somewhat on MB topic for tbudl, in that emoticons will be available in the announced MB release of a new version of The Bat! by RitLabs to be published next MB Tuesday, June 1, 2004. No, that only mean it is appropriate for TBBETA and not for TBUDL. After the release it will be appropriate here. Just MHO (I am not a moderator on TBUDL). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Warum hatte Bach so viele Kinder, Kant jedoch kein einziges? - Weil Bach sich auf die Kunst der Fuge verstand, waehrend Kant nur das Ding an sich betrachtet hat. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting all emails before synchronise - easy way
Hello MAU, On Sat, 29 May 2004 01:09:54 +0200 GMT (29/05/2004, 06:09 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: And anyway why shouldn't I just copy the Desktop .TBI and .TBB files and overwrite their equivalents on the Laptop and be done with it? M Yes, that works. Just copying the files works as long as you don't have any changes in the folder structure or so. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a message from the server?
Hello Costas, On Sat, 29 May 2004 07:38:45 +0300 GMT (29/05/2004, 11:38 +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: Look in filters | action tab | delete from server CP I tried that already. I tested it by making a filter to delete CP messages from the sender where the sender is myself. I sent a message CP to myself, but unfortunately the message still arrived in my inbox and CP was, of course, deleted from the server. Yes, that's what that function does: delete after download. CP My objective was to have the message deleted without it being also CP downloaded to my inbox. You will need to create a Selective Download filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Xerox: The Original Copycats Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
?subject= and spaces in it
Hellow all. My first post here. I don't know quit if it is a BUG but I thinks yes. If web-master used in his code line like: a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] addressesPress here to email me/a When The Bat! User will press on that link in subject line he will see only word Contact. And not the full phrase Contact addresses. If web-master used in his code line like: a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Press here to email me/a So he replaced space with %20 then The Bat! will catch the subject to the email right as Contact addresses I think that The Bat! must work correct if there are spaces in ?subject= and the current situation is a BUG of The Bat! Thanks! Maxim Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ?subject= and spaces in it
Hello makc666, On Sat, 29 May 2004 09:28:53 +0400 GMT (29/05/2004, 12:28 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mnr I think that The Bat! must work correct if there are spaces in ?subject= mnr and the current situation is a BUG of The Bat! The Bat works correctly, and the link is incorrect. This was discussed here many times. Reference is made to the RFCs. Please enlighten the webmaster, who doesn't seem to know what he is doing. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hairdressing while you wait. (Seen at a Dublin hairdresser's) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
