update - rogue.zip
hi all, how long it takes to update the rogue.zip with my pix ? at http://www.pcwize.com/thebat after updating downloaded the file.. but no update thanks pk roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] using TB v2.12.0 / W2K SP4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: update - rogue.zip
Hi pk and list, On Sunday, August 1, 2004 at 13:39:14 GMT +0530 (which was 10:09 where I live) pk roy wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of update - rogue.zip: how long it takes to update the rogue.zip with my pix ? Any new roguemoticon has to be approved by a moderator before it will be in the zip file. thanks pk roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW: You should place a delimiter (dashdashspaceenter) on a line of its own before your signature lines. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 2.12.03 and Useless Macro Collection 1.7.751/rc1 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto wrap problem
==Original message text=== From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wilwilwil on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 31, 2004, 3:12:18 PM Subject: Auto wrap problem AM Wilwilwil, [W] wrote: The thing I want is a virtual line feed just like in notepad or winword, that go on the next line when the text will go out of the window, but that doesn't edit or insert any code of wrap in the text... Possible to param TB like that ? AM Yes. Just switch to using the Plain Text (Windows) editor. ===End of original message text=== Thanks, it's really what I want. But if I use Plaint Text(Windows) format, I loose auto spell checking with the underline of mistakes. I there a way to have both ? I know, I want a lot, but that why I use TB ! ;-) -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.12.00 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oh those smilies are killing me
Hello Peter! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 10:21 PM, you wrote: PB Thanks for the gracious explaination Mary. I'll indeed park it for PB when I get some spare time. PB Errr :)? Err, put a space after the smiley symbol, before the question mark, like this :) ? Then the smiley will show for me. The Bat! assumes that you have written a three-symbol symbol (wow, I hope I'm not turning into a clanging cymbal, to use St. Paul's words!), when all the time I'm trying to speak with the tongues of men and of angels. :) :littleangel: -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
Hello Anna, Saturday, July 31, 2004, 9:34:15 PM, you wrote: A The error message is message not sent: server reply -- relaying denied. A Ryan (geek son) looked through the logs, but they were all geek A (sic) to me. (Sorry, too bad to pass up.) I get that when I try to send to some ISPs from my personal SMTP server. I have to send some mail from one specific account that uses my ISP's SMTP server. I normally use my own SMTP server, Mercury32. what does the ACCOUNT-PROPERTIES-transport-sendmail section say for a server? and the AUTHENTICATION section. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: testing roguemoticans
Dear Royminoo, @01-Aug-2004, 10:47 +0530 (01-Aug 06:17 UK time) pk roy said: ... snip now posted my pix today on http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/account.php successfully added image from HDD to my personal vCard can u see me ? Not yet - you haven't configured a trigger for us to do so. You need to follow the instructions about adding an X-Rogue header or using the :trigger: signature format. Of course, the latter also depends upon you using a conventional signature method where the signature follows a cut mark ;-) . -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpZdjg5M7W73.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:54:15 -0700 (4:54 PM EDT here) Anna wrote: each time I use TB, I have to do a command prompt in Windows, then type in: telnet (my server name) 110 user (my username) pass (my password) quit Then I can send email through TB for a couple of hours. After that, I have to do the command lines again. My son tried writing a batch file, but he doesn't know how to make it pause and wait for an OK signal, then start up again. I haven't written batch files since 1982 (and only did a couple then). Try writing a second file with the information you have to type in. Let's call the information file anna.txt. Anna.txt might look something like: (your server name) 110 user (your user name) pass (your password) quit Once you store anna.txt , try getting a command prompt and typing: telnet (path to anna.txt)\anna.txt Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.5, MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: testing roguemoticans
Hello Marck, Not yet - you haven't configured a trigger for us to do so. You need to follow the instructions about adding an X-Rogue header or using the :trigger: signature format. Of course, the latter also depends upon you using a conventional signature method where the signature follows a cut mark ;-) . i am trying to follow the instructions by adding X-Rogue header / trigger: signature format.. i am not sure if i would be visible. Before the msg is sent, i.e. in the outbox, i am not visible. i need some guidance of course i am sure this has been repeated no. of times earlier . - pk roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] :[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: testing roguemoticans
Dear Royminoo, @01-Aug-2004, 23:10 +0530 (01-Aug 18:40 UK time) pk roy said to Marck: ... snip upon you using a conventional signature method where the signature follows a cut mark ;-) . i am trying to follow the instructions by adding X-Rogue header / trigger: signature format.. There's no X-Rogue header but the signature worked. i am not sure if i would be visible. Before the msg is sent, i.e. in the outbox, i am not visible. Did you download the new version of the rogues after you were approved? (which was a while after you submitted your image). ... snip - A cut mark is a much simpler affair - just a single line containing dashdashspacereturn -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgphX6ciGeYzr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: testing roguemoticans
Hello Marck, Not yet - you haven't configured a trigger for us to do so. You need to follow the instructions about adding an X-Rogue header or using the :trigger: signature format. Of course, the latter also depends upon you using a conventional signature method where the signature follows a cut mark ;-) . i have probably been able to define the header as X-Rogue correctly pl. confirm if the pix is visible now. also, i am not sure as to how is it different from the address book option of photo and sender photo/prefer photo from address book available on the header pane. supposing i am not using the rogueemoticons which is only available in the current version. what was the relevance of photo option of the address book. pk roy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] using TB! v2.12.0 W2K SP4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: testing roguemoticans
Dear Royminoo, @01-Aug-2004, 23:45 +0530 (01-Aug 19:15 UK time) pk roy said to Marck: ... snip to follow the instructions about adding an X-Rogue header ... snip follows a cut mark ;-) . (which you still seem to be having trouble with!) i have probably been able to define the header as X-Rogue correctly pl. confirm if the pix is visible now. Confirmed. also, i am not sure as to how is it different from the address book option of photo and sender photo/prefer photo from address book available on the header pane. You have to pre-program all possible rogue pictures into pre-existing entries in your address book. You may not want all the rogues as entries in your address book. Having the roguemoticons avoids that. supposing i am not using the rogueemoticons which is only available in the current version. what was the relevance of photo option of the address book. Because you may have the photos of people not in the roguemoticons and the address book link allows another way to see people's faces in message header panes while reading their messages to you. It's a mix'n'match option. pk roy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] using TB! v2.12.0 W2K SP4 This is still not working. You need to read up on 'cut marks'. You'll find good description in the TB Help file in the Creating a new Message topic. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpQM7aMiXHjy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.11
Hello! Missed me? :) MyMacros 1.11 is released. http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ What's new: [+] added %SmartQuotes [+] added %RegExpReplace, changed behaviour of %RegExp [+] added %CountAttachments, %OCountAttachments [*] added new length parameter in %GetLine(text, from, length) [-] bugfix in %StrTr, when performing rot-translation [-] now %Prefix reacts not only on CRLF, but LF as well [*] added new macros in test mode, %DateToCounter and %CounterToDate, for date and time calculations [*] removed %RegExpBlind as a buggy one (couldn't fix) Jfyi: MyGate development is temporarily suspended, sorry... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11 BayesIt! 0.5.5; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
Hi, Marck, MDP Question : Is your account configured as a POP or an IMAP account? POP. MDP Have you tried ant of the other authentication methods? Between us, Ryan and I have tried all of them. I noticed one thing today though: Under AccountPropertiesTransferSend Mail, the port listed is 25. Should I change that to 110, which is the one the ISP told me to use for the workaround? MDP Relaying is usually an accusation levied when an email's from MDP address is not that accepted by the server as authentically that of MDP the account holder .. could that be anything to do with it? I don't think so. Each account has the correct from name in the transport stuff (including user names and passwords). Those should match the account, not necessarily my ISP info, right? MDP Note: please add a dashdashspacereturn sequence (as you MDP see before my signature) above your name in your messages to this MDP list. Oops. Sorry. I keep forgetting. -- Anna Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
Dear Anna, @1-Aug-2004, 15:23 -0700 (01-Aug 23:23 UK time) Anna said to Marck: MDP Question : Is your account configured as a POP or an IMAP account? POP. Do you have TB set up to prompt you for the POP password or have you stored it in TB? If TB is prompting you then maybe the correct password is not available for TB to use in the POP before SMTP setting. MDP Have you tried ant of the other authentication methods? Between us, Ryan and I have tried all of them. I noticed one thing today though: Under AccountPropertiesTransferSend Mail, the port listed is 25. Should I change that to 110, which is the one the ISP told me to use for the workaround? Certainly NOT. Port 25 is the SMTP port. Port 110 is the POP port. Post Office Protocol (POP) is used to receive mail. Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) is used for sending. The workaround your ISP gave you was to do a login to the POP server using your POP credentials before sending messages using standard SMTP. That is: POP before SMTP authentication. When you say: telnet (my server name) 110 user (my username) pass (my password) Was the username and password any different from the normal username and password? If they gave you a different set to use for this purpose, the TB has a space in which to enter them under SMTP authentication. Since your ISP has been willing to ascertain that this telnet workaround was needed, perhaps they will be good enough to explain to you (and you can relay back to us) why standard POP before SMTP authentication fails to work for you. I really should. MDP Relaying is usually an accusation levied when an email's from MDP address is not that accepted by the server as authentically that of MDP the account holder .. could that be anything to do with it? I don't think so. Each account has the correct from name in the transport stuff (including user names and passwords). Those should match the account, not necessarily my ISP info, right? Now you have me confused. Or do you. We're talking about the login details for your email settings, not the login to your ISP PPP access (dial-up). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpwnrWnr5xUD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
Hi, Marck, POP. MDP Do you have TB set up to prompt you for the POP password or have you MDP stored it in TB? If TB is prompting you then maybe the correct MDP password is not available for TB to use in the POP before SMTP MDP setting. No, it's stored in TB, and we made sure the password is the correct one. MDP Certainly NOT. Port 25 is the SMTP port. OK. :) MDP The workaround your ISP gave you was to do a login to the POP server MDP using your POP credentials before sending messages using standard MDP SMTP. That is: POP before SMTP authentication. When you say: MDP telnet (my server name) 110 MDP user (my username) MDP pass (my password) MDP Was the username and password any different from the normal username MDP and password? If they gave you a different set to use for this MDP purpose, the TB has a space in which to enter them under SMTP MDP authentication. We changed the password, but we made sure the new one was entered correctly in TB. It's the same set as for the normal user name and password. MDP Since your ISP has been willing to ascertain that this telnet MDP workaround was needed, perhaps they will be good enough to explain MDP to you (and you can relay back to us) why standard POP before SMTP MDP authentication fails to work for you. I really should. Ryan's going home tonight, but I'll try to make time later this week to call and ask them. (The day job will interfere with that for a few days!) I don't think so. Each account has the correct from name in the transport stuff (including user names and passwords). Those should match the account, not necessarily my ISP info, right? MDP Now you have me confused. Or do you. We're talking about the login MDP details for your email settings, not the login to your ISP PPP MDP access (dial-up). Sorry--the login details for my email settings and ISP settings are the same (I have DSL). I have the home account, @qwest.net, the fastmail account (a Web-based account I have fwded to TB), and a third forwarded from a Web site. For each of them, I have TB configured to send through the home Qwest server, and to retrieve through the respective accounts, including the respective usernames and passwords. Is this more clear or am I completely misunderstanding you? -- Anna Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
Dear Anna, @1-Aug-2004, 16:54 -0700 (02-Aug 00:54 UK time) Anna said to Marck: ... snip MDP Was the username and password any different from the normal MDP username and password? If they gave you a different set to use MDP for this purpose, the TB has a space in which to enter them MDP under SMTP authentication. We changed the password, but we made sure the new one was entered correctly in TB. It's the same set as for the normal user name and password. If you receive mail and have POP before SMTP enabled then there is no sensible reason I can come up with for it not working. MDP Since your ISP has been willing to ascertain that this MDP telnet workaround was needed, perhaps they will be good MDP enough to explain to you (and you can relay back to us) why MDP standard POP before SMTP authentication fails to work for you. MDP I really should. Ryan's going home tonight, but I'll try to make time later this week to call and ask them. (The day job will interfere with that for a few days!) You'll have to enable POP before SMTP, attempt a send with that setting (noting the time of day) then ask your ISP to confirm the fault from their logs. You might mention that your email software has a POP before SMTP auth option and that you have it enabled ... What else should I be doing? kind of query... ... snip For each of them, I have TB configured to send through the home Qwest server, and to retrieve through the respective accounts, including the respective usernames and passwords. Is this more clear or am I completely misunderstanding you? This is more clear. Thank you. The big issue is username and password during the send operation using the Qwest server. Is the login / password you are using the same as the login / password for the Qwest POP account? It should be. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgptM6ImLlb7o.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send mail thru TB
MDP You'll have to enable POP before SMTP, attempt a send with that MDP setting (noting the time of day) then ask your ISP to confirm the MDP fault from their logs. You might mention that your email software MDP has a POP before SMTP auth option and that you have it enabled ... MDP What else should I be doing? kind of query... Will do! (I'm keeping all these related msgs because I have a memory like a steel sieve.) whack MDP This is more clear. Thank you. The big issue is username and MDP password during the send operation using the Qwest server. Is the MDP login / password you are using the same as the login / password for MDP the Qwest POP account? It should be. Yes, it is. I've checked those so many times I should be bug-eyed. :) I'll let you know what, if anything, the ISP comes up with, and thanks for your help! -- Anna Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending mail error message
Hello, I was trying to send a attachment by email and recieved this error. http://tinyurl.com/6qrun What does this mean? :idunno: -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 My computer isn't that nervous...it's just a bit ANSI. pgpoSgbpDsLdh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Andrew, On Sunday, August 01, 2004 , at 22:37:26[GMT +0300](which was 12:37 PM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): AP Hello! AP Missed me? :) MyMacros 1.11 is released. The version in The Bat! still lists it as 1.10. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ2KdG2u7N+Qh+ieEQJvVwCfbvyMFnerKWbvhBnLSEI/oY7ZjZMAn0+E fGMrjmEy9aN1e3fdM7aE8yKc =R5yt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.11
Hi Michael L. Wilson - On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, at 17:27:25 [GMT -0700] (which was 5:27 PM where I live) you wrote: The version in The Bat! still lists it as 1.10. Mine shows 1.11 -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpMbyag2XJnY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oh those smilies are killing me
Mary- Sunday, August 1, 2004, 3:32:22 AM, you wrote: MB written a three-symbol symbol Is that a TSS? Sorry... I'm being a bit symbol-minded today... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compressing folders
Hello, I'm just curious of which method of compression is used in The Bat! when you check the compress folder in folder properties. Is it a huge spacesaver and does it have a negative impact when using the program? ASK The term compression may be misleading. Since this subject came up, can you (anyone) explain why there isn't an option to automatically compress and purge (other than when quitting)? It would seem a trivial thing to have an option that would do them both on a scheduled basis. I leave TB up all of the time so I have to keep remembering that I need to go in do that every once in a while. -- Jack Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compressing folders
On Sunday, August 01, 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: J Since this subject came up, can you (anyone) explain why there isn't J an option to automatically compress and purge (other than when J quitting)? There is ... Folder-Maintenance -- Cheers Yall \\' Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Kevin, On Sunday, August 01, 2004 , at 17:35:43[GMT -0700](which was 5:35 PM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): KA Mine shows 1.11 I figured it out. It's all good. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12.03 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: Big Brother is REALLY watching you iQA/AwUBQQ3Ni22u7N+Qh+ieEQLimwCfcM5UsNq9/VaOnKGq/ssnlnhBKcgAoJas VZoZVDtdNaTNxqDG6RhptLdW =2J0z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Compressing folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wolffe, On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W There is ... Folder-Maintenance But I think Jack wants an automatic capability whereas the above is still a manual action. I don't think it can be put into the scheduler - at least I can't see how it can be so it would be nice to be put right. - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.12.03 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQQ3VwxqZtcDKk7W+EQJo6ACgoKlPyY+Ly0pAzK5zFFMse/9HNpoAn2x3 8Z7WAch86Vns2VSz/O/ew4rH =rDlb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
