Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/03/2004 01:22:50, I think I heard Michael L. Wilson say:
 ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9)
 Total Spam Emails: 45
 Total Clean Emails: 120
 BayesIT guessed right 99.96% of the time
 My email is 2.67% spam
 =

Your email is only 2.67% spam?? You lucky daaag!!! :)

dZ.

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Zonnet

ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 7:22:50 AM, you wrote:
MLW I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the
MLW bottom of this email.  If there is interest, I will post what I did.
MLW If anyone else is using the macros for stats, please show results
MLW here.

Hi Michael,

I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your
implementation, so please post it here.

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Junk messages as unread?

2004-08-03 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello!

  Is  it  possible to have all messages classified by BeyesIt! as junk
  be  marked  as unread when they get to the Junk folder? Just to make
  sure I do not overlook the legitimate mail.

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 6:22:50 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the
 bottom of this email.

Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig
should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once
you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this.

Users of TB! and the RTV may not notice this, but not everyone uses
TB!, and these unfortunate people will see many lines of sig, which
they will have to manually chop in replies.


Julian

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No way to quit CC after broken connection!?

2004-08-03 Thread Cory
Hello everybody,

We're experiencing some annoying behaviour with TB!.
One of them is the Connection Centre stalling the complete PC  when
during mail exchange the connection gets broken - which happens quite
often when connecting thru a mobile phone at 9k6 bps from some obscure
corner of the covered world 

Is there any way to correct or work around this?

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Re: Junk messages as unread?

2004-08-03 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Robert,

On 3 Aug 2004 at 13:49:42 +0300 GMT [12:49 CEST] you wrote:

RG   Is  it  possible to have all messages classified by BeyesIt! as junk
RG   be  marked  as unread when they get to the Junk folder? Just to make
RG   sure I do not overlook the legitimate mail.

 Preferences-Antispam-untick Mark stored junk mail read

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Re: Emptying ALL Trash Folders

2004-08-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Joseph,

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 01:11:09 + (UTC) GMT (03/08/2004, 08:11 +0700 GMT),
Joseph N. wrote:

JN I seem to recall some threads in the past about incorporating a way
JN to empty all trash folders with one global object.  I cannot find it.
JN Was it ever implemented?

No, I don't think so.

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(no subject)

2004-08-03 Thread pk roy
hi all,

have been sending cc to one of my other accounts in other location
using thebat v2.12, the images are not visible there though same
rogue.zip is properly installed..

what could be the probable reasons ?


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Re: (no subject)

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi pk,
On 8/3/2004 7:59 AM my time, pk wrote:
pr have been sending cc to one of my other accounts in other location
pr using thebat v2.12,

Is the receiving e-mail program V2.12 or just the one your sending it
from?


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Re[2]: (no subject)

2004-08-03 Thread pk roy
Hello Darrin,

  receiving is v2.12.0


Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 8:41:30 PM, you wrote:
 Hi pk,
 On 8/3/2004 7:59 AM my time, pk wrote:
pr have been sending cc to one of my other accounts in other location
pr using thebat v2.12,

 Is the receiving e-mail program V2.12 or just the one your sending it
 from?




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Re[2]: BayesIT Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Peter Kerekes

Hello Michael,

Monday, August 2, 2004, 9:35:22 PM, you wrote:

MLW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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MLW Hello Peter,

MLW On Monday, August 02, 2004 , at 17:50:57[GMT -0400](which was 2:50 PM
MLW where I live) you wrote (at least in part):
 ---cut--

PK Hello Michael,

PK TIA

MLW I am using 0.5.9, but my memory indicates that these macros have been
MLW there all along.  I found them listed at the bottom of the
MLW information page on the BayesIT macro (open the plug-in window,
MLW highlight bayesIT and click information.

MLW There is no explanation, just a list of macro names.

Thank you. I never looked into *Information*.

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hello Zonnet,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 11:32:07[GMT +0200](which was 2:32 AM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):


Z ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 7:22:50 AM, you wrote:
MLW I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the
MLW bottom of this email.  If there is interest, I will post what I did.
MLW If anyone else is using the macros for stats, please show results
MLW here.

Z Hi Michael,

Z I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your
Z implementation, so please post it here.

QT SpamCount=
==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION)
Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24)
Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)
BayesIT guessed right %calculate=100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))%% 
of the time
My email is %calculate=%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)%% spam
=
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Total Spam Emails: 74
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BayesIT guessed right 99.972973% of the time
My email is 2.378378% spam
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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hello Julian,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 12:04:55[GMT +0100](which was 4:04 AM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):

JBL On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 6:22:50 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the
 bottom of this email.

JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig
JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once
JBL you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this.

JBL Users of TB! and the RTV may not notice this, but not everyone uses
JBL TB!, and these unfortunate people will see many lines of sig, which
JBL they will have to manually chop in replies.


JBL Julian

Sorry you misunderstood.  The Bat! allows me to have different
templates to have different sigs for each send address.  I have
created a rather long sig for the bat discussion groups to display
what my system is.  The spam counter is also, only in the template for
the Bat lists.

You should look into The Bat! templates, they really are quite good
and help in the world Netiquette.

It is also my belief, that everyone on this list either uses The Bat!
or knows of it.

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How to setup a filter to send back reply automatically?

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello,

  I upload files to a website weekly. I have a template made up that I
  send to notify the organization when the files have been uploaded.
  They then send me a reply email, which I would then like to send
  a automated response to when I receive this email.

  The email they reply to which is from my template, has the same
  subject line everytime. So Im thinking that there must be a way to
  set up a filter to send automatic reply to a email with a example
  RE: Specific Subject in the subject line. Im unsure how to set
  this up.
  Anyone have some ideas?
 
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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Michael-

Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting.

However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and
your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering
quite close nearby.

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Re: How to setup a filter to send back reply automatically?

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:17:23 -0700 (12:17 PM EDT here) Darrin Rich wrote:

 Hello,

   I upload files to a website weekly. I have a template made up that
   I send to notify the organization when the files have been
   uploaded. They then send me a reply email, which I would then like
   to send a automated response to when I receive this email.

   The email they reply to which is from my template, has the same
   subject line everytime. So Im thinking that there must be a way to
   set up a filter to send automatic reply to a email with a example
   RE: Specific Subject in the subject line. Im unsure how to set
   this up. Anyone have some ideas?

TheBat!
  Account
 Sorting Office
New Filter

   Rule tab
String [Re: your message subject]
  Location [Subject]
  Presence [Yes]

   Action tab
  (pull down to and check off) [x] Send Auto Reply

  press the icon on your right to customize the auto reply
   


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Re: How to setup a filter to send back reply automatically?

2004-08-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Darrin Rich,

03-Aug-2004 18:17, you wrote:

 Anyone have some ideas?

The Sorting Office's Action tab is very large... and while it is arguable
what quality of UI design *scrollable* tabs are, you can find exactly what
you're looking for there: an Action create auto-reply (halfway down or
so). Set the checkbox, click the button to open the template window, type
your reply, hey presto.

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Re: How to setup a filter to send back reply automatically?

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Dan,
On 8/3/2004 10:32 AM my time, Dan wrote:
DG TheBat!
DG   Account
DG  Sorting Office
DG New Filter

DGRule tab
DG String [Re: your message subject]
DG   Location [Subject]
DG   Presence [Yes]

DGAction tab
DG   (pull down to and check off) [x] Send Auto Reply

DG   press the icon on your right to customize the auto reply


Wonderful! It worked great. Thanks for taking the time to post the
steps.
 
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Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello,

  Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it
  works with TB!. Good and bad experiences.
  
 
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Re: Kaspersky AV Plug-in.

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Chris,

On Thursday, July 29, 2004 19:26 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW]
wrote;

CW I'm currently using TB! 2.12.03 with the Kaspersky 4.5 Pro as my AV.
CW Every now and again, the plug-in errors, so I have to remove the plug-in
CW and then add it again!? Don't ask me why, but 9 times out of 10, it
CW works.

CW Well, it came to one of those re-start times today and when I select
CW 'Add', it no longer gives me the choice to add KAV!?

CW Instead, it comes up with the option to browse for a *.bav, which
CW doesn't exist for KAV.

CW Does anyone know why this is happening and how I can correct it, as I
CW feel slightly vulnerable at the moment (I don't 'always' trust my common
CW sense :-) )

CW Here's hoping someone can help! :D

Anyone? 9Val?

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Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Greetings All,

I am trying to complete the following calculation

100*(x/x+y)

x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77
y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185

Using a calculator, I get 29.389

I cannot get this value using The Bat! %calc macro or anything else.
How do I do this kind of math in a The Bat! Macro?


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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread danger
Hello Darrin,

Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 2:34:45 PM, you wrote:

DR Hello,

DR   Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it
DR   works with TB!. Good and bad experiences.
  
 

Works Fine for me on 4.1.7.5

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Darrin!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 1:34 PM, you wrote:

DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ...

I used MailWasher Pro before I ever got The Bat! I still have it on my
machine, but it's only as a back-up in case anything (I hope nothing
and never) should cause me to have to go back to Outlook Express
temporarily.

I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I
don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do
everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself.
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Mary,
On 8/3/2004 12:43 PM my time, Mary wrote:
MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I
MB don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do
MB everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself.


Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of
its features.
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Darrin!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 2:55 PM, you wrote:

MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. ...

DR Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of
DR its features.
 
Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The
Bat! also has that capability.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Mary,
On 8/3/2004 1:06 PM my time, Mary wrote:
MB Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The
MB Bat! also has that capability.


Ok, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Save me a download there :p
 
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Re: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 4 August 2004, 4:41:53 +1000, Michael L. Wilson wrote:
 I am trying to complete the following calculation
 
 100*(x/x+y)
 
 x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77
 y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185
 
 Using a calculator, I get 29.389
 
 I cannot get this value using The Bat! %calc macro or anything else.
 How do I do this kind of math in a The Bat! Macro?

I got that result. Tested it with the following macro

%_Sum=%Calc(77+185)%-
%_Sum
%_Quot=%Calc(77/%_sum)%-
%_Quot
%_Percent=%calc(100*%_quot)%-
%_Percent

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hello Mark,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 10:24:54[GMT -0700](which was 10:24
AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part):

MW Michael-

MW Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting.

MW However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and
MW your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering
MW quite close nearby.


My cutline is exactly like they want it.



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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hello Zonnet,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 11:32:07[GMT +0200](which was 2:32 AM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):

Z I ma not using them right now but I am stll interested in your
Z implementation, so please post it here.

 After some help with the macros, this is what I have now

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Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)
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of the time
My email is %_Sum=%Calc(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24))%-
%_Quot=%Calc(77/%_sum)%-
%_Percent=%calc(100*%_quot)%-
%_Percent%% spam
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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hello Mark,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 10:24:54[GMT -0700](which was 10:24
AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part):

MW Michael-

MW Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting.

MW However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and
MW your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering
MW quite close nearby.

I am using %CutHere  from MyMacros.  I was told it was perfect.




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Re[2]: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi Michael,

 My cutline is exactly like they want it.

I see a dash space dash dash

it should be dash dash space

:) Oh wait, here's one coming now:

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Michael!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 3:40 PM, you wrote:

MLW I am using %CutHere from MyMacros. I was told it was perfect.

It's the best that can be done, since you are signing with PGP/Mime.

This changes the configuration as it's sent to: dash space dash dash.
Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for
quoting are in a person's template.

This was such a problem for some of us that Marck wrote an expression
that one can include in one's Address Book Reply template which will
recognize dash space dash dash in addition to dash-dash-space as a
cut-mark, and exclude all text below it from the quotes in Reply.

I hope I'm saying this clearly. I'd post the expression here, but my
template is long and I don't know what part of it does that.

I just know that it makes your cut-mark work for me. For someone
without that, your cut-mark as changed by PGP/Mime won't work.

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Re[2]: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Michael,

Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 1:36:52 PM, you wrote:

 My cutline is exactly like they want it.

Yes and it works fine here!

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Re[2]: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi Mary,

 This changes the configuration as it's sent to:
 dash space dash dash. Therefore, everything
 below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for
 quoting are in a person's template.

That answered my next question, which was why the dash space dash dash delimiter works.

Thanks!

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Re[2]: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Mary,

Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 1:52:49 PM, you wrote:

 Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for
 quoting are in a person's template.

What am I missing?  I use macros for quoting but nothing below
Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~

-- 
Thanks,

Terry

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Terry!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:05 PM, you wrote:

MB Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for
MB quoting are in a person's template.

TGM What am I missing?  I use macros for quoting but nothing below
TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~

My templates are very old, from when I first got The Bat! I had a
simple % quote line. A number of us did, I think. So when people began
signing with PGP/Mime, that would change the basic delimiter of
dash dash space (Enter, for new line) to what you see as Michael's
cut-line: dash space dash dash. And it didn't work, since the set-up
was for dash-dash space..

So Marck gave me an expression to put in my Reply template. It
recognizes the PGP/Mime configured cut-line, which is what Michael
has.

I imagine that this expression, or something like it, is in the Macro
that you are using.

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Terry,

On 3 Aug 2004 at 14:05:45 -0700 GMT [23:05 CEST] you wrote:

 Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for
 quoting are in a person's template.

TGM What am I missing?  I use macros for quoting but nothing below
TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~

Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore
it works.

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Mary and list,

On Tuesday, August 3, 2004 at 15:52:49 GMT -0500 (which was 22:52
where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of Playing with BayesIT macros:

MLW I am using %CutHere from MyMacros. I was told it was perfect.

It is as correct as a handmade can be too. There is also a TB! macro
%ISSGINATURE (in a QT)which should care about a cut delimiter too (I
didn't try that one myself).

 It's the best that can be done, since you are signing with PGP/Mime.

To be exact: not PGP/MIME but PGP inline. With PGP/MIME there is no
need for changing lines beginning with dash as the seperation is
done by different (MIME coded) parts.

 This changes the configuration as it's sent to: dash space dash dash.
 Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply,

That is not true anymore, I was recently told. Since a couple of
versions ago TB! recognizes the dashspacedashdashspace
mofification of PGP as a valid signature itself.

 This was such a problem for some of us that Marck wrote an expression
 that one can include in one's Address Book Reply template which will
 recognize dash space dash dash in addition to dash-dash-space as a
 cut-mark, and exclude all text below it from the quotes in Reply.

Since then this macro isn't needed anymore for the sig delimiter. One
positive side effect is suppressing the _beginning PGP-line too.

 I just know that it makes your cut-mark work for me. For someone
 without that, your cut-mark as changed by PGP/Mime won't work.

see above :-)

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Andre!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:16 PM, you wrote:

MB Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for
MB quoting are in a person's template.

TGM What am I missing?  I use macros for quoting but nothing below
TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~

AW Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore
AW it works.

If TB! is doing this automatically, why does it work for the TB!
lists, but not on tbot, where, when I made some changes, I
inadvertently left that expression out of my tbot Reply template, and
now I have to manually scrub tons of Yahoo! stuff, unless I highlight
and use Shift/Reply arrow button?

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%smartquote in MyMacro 1.11 erases quoted text

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Greetings All,

I have been trying the %smartquote from the latest MYMacros 1.11.  It
seems to do nothing by erase the text that should be quoted.  Anyone
using it successfully?

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Mary and list,

On Tuesday, August 3, 2004 at 16:23:51 GMT -0500 (which was 23:23
where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of Playing with BayesIT macros:


AW Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore
AW it works.

 If TB! is doing this automatically, why does it work for the TB!
 lists, but not on tbot, where, when I made some changes, I
 inadvertently left that expression out of my tbot Reply template,

Hmm - may be we should have a look at your templates (you could send
them per PM if you so wish).

I do not use any special cleaning macros and as all templates for
the tb-lists (including tbot) are AB-Group templates they are exactly
the same for each TB-List - and the cut off works automagically.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Simon,
On 8/3/2004 2:48 PM my time, Simon wrote:
SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP or
SF IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian Filtering/Learning,
SF Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking and lastly their own
SF Spam Altert service titled First Alert which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a
SF year subscription service contianing details of known and identified
SF Spam.

Many features. I might have to download a trial version to see it. Can
Domains be deleted from server just using TB! by itself? I know I can
delete specific senders.

SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher
SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too
Ive also experimented with K9. Very pleased with the spam detection.



 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Iain D. Brown
Darrin wrote:

DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ...

Mary replied:

 I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I
 don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do
 everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself.
 
I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find
Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on
the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+
spam messages needlessly.

I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam?
(Not that this is an implied criticism, note!)

Best wishes,

Iain.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread malexander
Hello Simon,

SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP
SF or IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian
SF Filtering/Learning, Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking
SF and lastly their own Spam Altert service titled First Alert
SF which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a year subscription service contianing
SF details of known and identified Spam.

SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher
SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too


And I can second that.   It's worth the money for the First Alert
system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a
central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already
marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using
Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is
marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher.  It's much more
effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Iain!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:58 PM, you wrote:

IDB I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find
IDB Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on
IDB the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+
IDB spam messages needlessly.

That's what I do with The Bat!'s Dispatcher--I look at each mail's
headers and manually mark for download the ones I want. The rest are
deleted on the server.

IDB I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam?

I never download Spam. Admittedly, I am lucky, I get offered, at most,
one or two Spams a day. This week Ive been offered three of those
lists of nonsense words, which I understand are an attempt at
propagating an e-mail virus.

The needs of business users and people who get more mail than I do may
be different.

On principle, I am against blacklists and bouncing mail. I think the
best course is to simply delete unwanted mail. I can't remember an
unwanted advertisement getting through to me since my latest change of
address (to go on broadband). And before that it was a rare occasion
to receive Spam here. (I like to get Amazon's announcements that
they've shipped my books or DVDS. :) )

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi malexander,
On 8/3/2004 2:59 PM my time, malexander wrote:
m And I can second that.   It's worth the money for the First Alert
m system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a
m central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already
m marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using
m Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is
m marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher.  It's much more
m effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat.


Thanks. I have a better understanding of the first alert now. Im going
to read up on it a bit more at the website.
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:59:50 PM, malexander wrote:

malexander And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First
malexander Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting
malexander spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of
malexander the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted
malexander before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly
malexander any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked
malexander deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more
malexander effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using
malexander the Bat.

Bellsouth is my ISP and I use their mail servers and their MailGard
option. So far it has caught almost all of the spam that shows up in
my mailbox. Maybe one a day gets through. Out of 350 spam messages in
three days only one made it to TheBat!, knock on wood (as he raps
himself beside the head with his knuckles). The rest were dealt with
on the server by MailGard where I have the option of viewing them to
make sure none were really ham or letting the process delete
them automatically. I have no idea what MailGard is, but it works.

I tried BayesFilters and BayesIt out of curiosity for a while, but
they were much more work and no better than the filter provided by
Bellsouth.

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MicroEd format problems

2004-08-03 Thread M i c C u l l e n
G'day tbudl,

I've switched to using MicroEd as my composition editor, and I'm slowly
getting used to the revolting look of non-proportional fonts.

But I've got a format problem. If I want to produce a list of items like this:

Item
Item
Item

It's OK as long as I don't need to edit ANYTHING in it, because if I do, it
immediately moves to:

Item Item Item

I've played with various settings, but haven't fixed it.

I'm sure it's something simple.

Any ideas? TIA.

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Re: MicroEd format problems

2004-08-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Mic,

@4-Aug-2004, 06:45 +0800 (03-Aug 23:45 UK time) M i c C u l l e n
said to tbudl:

... snip
 But I've got a format problem. If I want to produce a list of items like this:

 Item
 Item
 Item

 It's OK as long as I don't need to edit ANYTHING in it, because if I do, it
 immediately moves to:

 Item Item Item

Auto-format is your enemy here. Learn the toggle (Ctrl-Shift-F is
the default) and kick it in and out as needed.

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Re: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Zonnet

ON Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 8:41:53 PM, you wrote:
MLW I am trying to complete the following calculation

MLW 100*(x/x+y)

MLW x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77
MLW y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185

MLW Using a calculator, I get 29.389

MLW I cannot get this value using The Bat! %calc macro or anything else.
MLW How do I do this kind of math in a The Bat! Macro?

Hi Michael,

Do you get 186 as a result?
If so TB! is working left to right without respect for the rules.
Try this if possible 100*(x/(x+y)).
This should force the X+Y to be done before the X/(x+Y)

Hope this helps, I have no time to test it for you.

Also thanks for posting your statistics template.

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Re: MicroEd format problems

2004-08-03 Thread Richard Wakeford
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Hello M,

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MicCullen But I've got a format problem. If I want to
MicCullen produce a list of items like this:

MicCullen Item
MicCullen Item
MicCullen Item

MicCullen It's OK as long as I don't need to edit ANYTHING
MicCullen in it, because if I do, it
MicCullen immediately moves to:

MicCullen Item Item Item

Down at the bottom of the editor are some icons. Deselect the second and
third ( Auto-format and auto-wrap) and that should do it nicely for you.

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Re: MicroEd format problems

2004-08-03 Thread Joseph N.
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:49:23 GMT, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Item Item Item
 
 Auto-format is your enemy here. Learn the toggle (Ctrl-Shift-F 
is
 the default) and kick it in and out as needed.

There are times, however, when you'll want to keep the auto-
formatting going but still avoid the Item Item Item problem.  
Best way to deal with that is, before editing in one of the list 
paragraphs, add an extra paragraph on either side to isolate it 
from the accompanying paragraphs.  Then, auto-formatting will keep 
your paragraph tidy as you edit, and, when you're done, just 
delete the two hidden paragraph marks.

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Re: MicroEd format problems

2004-08-03 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Wednesday, August 4, 2004 @ 6:49:23 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

[snips]

 But I've got a format problem. If I want to produce a list of items like this:

 Item
 Item
 Item

 It's OK as long as I don't need to edit ANYTHING in it, because if I do, it
 immediately moves to:

 Item Item Item

Marck Auto-format is your enemy here. Learn the toggle (Ctrl-Shift-F is
Marck the default) and kick it in and out as needed.

Thanks for that, people. I'd changed that in the preferences, but maybe it
doesn't work if you change it there when the message is already open?

-- 

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Re: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 3-Aug-04 1:41pm -0400, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 I am trying to complete the following calculation

 100*(x/x+y)

 x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77
 y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185

 Using a calculator, I get 29.389

You appear to be abusing your calculator :-)

The correct answer, assuming normal precedence, is 18,600.

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Re[2]: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Bill,

Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 4:37:11 PM, you wrote:

 The correct answer, assuming normal precedence, is 18,600.

I will second that ;-)

-- 
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Terry

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Anna
Hi, Darrin,

DR   Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it
DR   works with TB!. Good and bad experiences.
  
I'm using the earlier free Mailwasher with TB (I haven't upgraded
because the free version does all I want it to do). It worked
seamlessly until recently, when I started having the send-mail
problems I've been complaining about for days. It still works
well, but there are a couple of glitches I can't seem to get rid
of.

For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and
not even download them is a big plus. :)

--
Anna



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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Anna!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 6:44 PM, you wrote:

A For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and
A not even download them is a big plus. :)

That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :)

-- 
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Mary
:Mary:
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 7:55 PM, you wrote:

MB That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :)

IAW The problem with the Message Dispatcher is that it does not classify
IAW the messages based on the filters. Mailwasher does and by sorting on
IAW the status, the filtered messages are grouped ...

I see. As I wrote in an earlier post, my method will probably not suit
many people. I like to look at my messages chronologically. And I like
to examine the headers on each one.

Then I decide what to download and what to delete. Most of my mail is
from the three TB! lists I'm subscribed to, plus tbot, plus a
scattering of mail from family and personal friends.

It's rare for me to have more than 100 mails at a time to look
at--usually it's 20 to 50. It is rare for me to see a Spam or a
suspicious virus-trojan looking mail among them. I have the time and
the inclination to do it this way.

I'm most grateful that The Bat! affords me this capability.

When I get my mail filtered to its various folders, I still don't read
by threads. I read the mail in each folder chronologically, oldest to
latest.

But that's just me. Everyone else's mileage obviously varies.

And that's the beauty of The Bat!--it's so flexible, to meet a variety
of different needs, and it works well with so many other good
programs, like MailWasher.

-- 
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Mary
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emoticons not visible

2004-08-03 Thread pk roy


hi all,

have been sending cc to one of my other accounts in other location
using thebat v2.12 at both sending/receiving end.
while i can see my image in my outbox but at the other end
 the images are not visible there rogue.zip is properly installed..

has it anything to do with the tb




with best regards

--
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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


Hello Julian,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 12:04:55[GMT +0100](which was 4:04 AM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):

JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig
JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once
JBL you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this.

I take this view.  If people do not want long signatures, then stop
writing so many F*ing macros.  I like to play with the macros and test
them, and now you complain about my sig being too long.  oh well.


- --
Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag:
Ecclesiastic Philosopher
Teacher
Critic
:einsteinyoyo:


If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
- -
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 ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9)
Total Spam Emails: 95
Total Clean Emails: 139
BayesIT guessed right 99.936842% of the time
My email is 32.906% spam
=

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BayesIT not working

2004-08-03 Thread omn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello TBUDL,

  I think my BayesIT not working. Must be not configured correctly.
  How do u configure BayesIT and how to confirm it's working or not ?

  Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.

  Below are the logs:-

 --- New session log 
Version of BayesIt!: 0.5.5
Beginning the loading process of training information.
Recalculating bases from here:
00:00:00 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt\base\spamdict.bye
00:00:06 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt\base\nspamdict.bye
Spam frequency dictionary:
Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost.
00:00:00 Non-spam frequency dictionary:
Size: 218 letters.
Capacity: 34037 words.
Regarding base didn't load. Continue in training mode...
Beginning the loading process of training information.
Recalculating bases from here:
00:00:00 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt\base\spamdict.bye
00:00:06 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt\base\nspamdict.bye
Spam frequency dictionary:
Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost.
00:00:00 Non-spam frequency dictionary:
Size: 219 letters.
Capacity: 34169 words.
Regarding base didn't load. Continue in training mode...






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 omn  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Kajang, Malaysia

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Re: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


Hello Ian,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 13:34:25[GMT +1000](which was 8:34 PM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):

IAW Michael,

IAW On Wednesday, August 4, 2004, 4:41:53 AM, you (Michael L. Wilson) wrote:

MLW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MLW Hash: SHA1

MLW Greetings All,

MLW I am trying to complete the following calculation

MLW 100*(x/x+y)

MLW x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77
MLW y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185

MLW Using a calculator, I get 29.389

MLW I cannot get this value using The Bat! %calc macro or anything else.
MLW How do I do this kind of math in a The Bat! Macro?

IAW It depends on what you are trying to calculate.

IAW If you want to divide x by the sum of x+y then you need to bracket the
IAW x+y as in x/(x+y) otherwise it is just x/x to which y is added. In
IAW other words, you are multiplying 100 by 1 plus the value of y.

Actually, it does not work unless I use the undocumented %sum() macro.

- --
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Ecclesiastic Philosopher
Teacher
Critic
:einsteinyoyo:


If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
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 ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9)
Total Spam Emails: 99
Total Clean Emails: 142
BayesIT guessed right 99.939394% of the time
My email is 31.9502% spam
=

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Re: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 4 August 2004, 13:36:31 +1000, Michael L. Wilson wrote:
MLW I am trying to complete the following calculation
 
MLW 100*(x/x+y)
 
MLW x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77
MLW y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185
 
MLW Using a calculator, I get 29.389
 
MLW I cannot get this value using The Bat! %calc macro or anything else.
MLW How do I do this kind of math in a The Bat! Macro?
 
IAW It depends on what you are trying to calculate.
 
IAW If you want to divide x by the sum of x+y then you need to bracket the
IAW x+y as in x/(x+y) otherwise it is just x/x to which y is added. In
IAW other words, you are multiplying 100 by 1 plus the value of y.
 
 Actually, it does not work unless I use the undocumented %sum() macro.

It does for me.

A QT consisting of %calculate(100*77/(77+185)) gives me 29.389313

-- 
Robin Anson

Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see: www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu)
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Re: Math in The Bat! Macros

2004-08-03 Thread Michael L. Wilson
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Hash: SHA1


Hello Robin,

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004 , at 14:07:05[GMT +1000](which was 9:07 PM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):


RA A QT consisting of %calculate(100*77/(77+185)) gives me 29.389313

This is what I had to use to get it working

 ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION)
Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24)
Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)
BayesIT guessed right %calculate=100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))%% 
of the time
My email is %_Sum=%Calc(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24))%-
%_Quot=%Calc(77/%_sum)%-
%_Percent=%calc(100*%_quot)%-
%_Percent%% spam
=

Please check for any errors, my math is poor



- --
Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag:
Ecclesiastic Philosopher
Teacher
Critic
:einsteinyoyo:


If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
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 ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.9)
Total Spam Emails: 104
Total Clean Emails: 147
BayesIT guessed right 99.942308% of the time
My email is 30.6773% spam
=

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Re: %smartquote in MyMacro 1.11 erases quoted text

2004-08-03 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello!

MLW I have been trying the %smartquote from the latest MYMacros 1.11.
MLW It seems to do nothing by erase the text that should be quoted.
MLW Anyone using it successfully?

I do :)

Could you be more specific please?

-- 
Andrew Perevodchik
Kiev, Ukraine

The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/1 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11
BayesIt! 0.5.10; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172



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