Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Occasional freezing problems)
Dear Allie, -- Montag, 25. Oktober 2004, 00:08:07: On Sunday, October 24, 2004 at 9:54:17 AM [GMT -0500], Atanas Vasilev wrote: Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Occasional freezing problems) No I have not an answer or question to this thread. Rather a question to you Allie! I thought you have left the Mod. position in all ML? -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Occasional freezing problems)
On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 4:17:10 AM [GMT -0500], Eddie Castelli wrote: No I have not an answer or question to this thread. Rather a question to you Allie! I thought you have left the Mod. position in all ML? I did. Marck did the moderating in this thread. Not me. Look again. :) -- -= Allie =- . WWhhaatt ddooeess dduupplleexx mmeeaann?? __ IMAP [ Client: The Bat! v3.0.1.33 | Server: MDaemon Pro ] OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hello WilWilWil, (nice name :-) ) on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: W Is there an automatically way to add this date and time somewhere in the mail itself ? AFAIK there is no such method, but it is a nice and *useful* idea! I second that. What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 (or so...)? -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs SecureBat! 2.12.4 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Oct 2004, @ @ at 00:11:22 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: Io, Oi. In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save it, I can't find a way to know the date and time I've sent it (sometimes 3 days after wrote it). . Is there an automatically way to add this date and time somewhere in the mail itself ? There is. Your quest is finished. But not using TB features. I do that with X-Ray www.xrayapp.com, and you can see the result in my headers, under Sent. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) [Earth LOG: 54 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBfPHe9q62QPd3XuIRAs0ZAJ93f0b2gOs6teLd9T5x5hxm4ajLxACeMjdk Ho075y1EMPGwJN9ut9ZEAYo= =psp1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Occasional freezing problems)
Dear Allie, -- Montag, 25. Oktober 2004, 13:26:19: No I have not an answer or question to this thread. Rather a question to you Allie! I thought you have left the Mod. position in all ML? I did. Marck did the moderating in this thread. Not me. Look again. :) Oh my goodness. Normally I'm not looking in thread view (very seldom). Yes and sorry it was Marck initiating the Mod remark -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hi WilWilWil - On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, at 00:11:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 3:11 PM where I live) you wrote: Io, In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save it, I can't find a way to know the date and time I've sent it (sometimes 3 days after wrote it). snip Is there an automatically way to add this date and time somewhere in the mail itself ? I've had the same problem myself. Here in the U.S. many companies are required to retain copies of e-mails for a number of years with accurate header information. This is one (and not the only one) reason that has precluded us from using TB on a department or corporate level. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpVZ11hE44QY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message when closing The Bat!
Dear TBUDL members, When closing down last night, I got an Application Error from thebat.exe saying: The instruction at Ox5ad776b6 referenced memory at 0x7261757e. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program. I clicked on OK, and all /seems/ to OK; but can anyone explain what the problem was - and what action, if any, I should take, please? -- Eric Using TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
ON Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:02:28 PM, you wrote: KA I've had the same problem myself. Here in the U.S. many companies are KA required to retain copies of e-mails for a number of years with KA accurate header information. This is one (and not the only one) reason KA that has precluded us from using TB on a department or corporate KA level. Hi Kevin, I do not see the problem apart from creating it first then saving it and sending later. If you want to see the date, created or received/send, you can select to display that. Just right-click in the part above the email text in the pre-view window and select headers. Or am I misinterpreting all this. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Universal Laws of Golf: Brand new golf balls are water-magnetic. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?
==Original message text=== From: Peter Hampf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 25, 2004, 2:02:12 PM Subject: Date of a sent message ? PH What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 PH (or so...)? ===End of original message text=== How to make this kludge automatically ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?
==Original message text=== From: Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 25, 2004, 2:30:24 PM Subject: Date of a sent message ? Is there an automatically way to add this date and time somewhere in the mail itself ? MM There is. Your quest is finished. But not using TB features. I do that MM with X-Ray www.xrayapp.com, and you can see the result in my headers, MM under Sent. ===End of original message text=== Nice. But I'm a little afraid with a such technical solution for a poor rookie IT user like me... -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Limiting references in reply chains
Hello Anthony, On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:29:21 +0200 GMT (23/10/2004, 13:29 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: AGA I notice that the references are growing and growing in messages that I AGA exchange with other people via replies (I reply, he replies, I reply, he AGA replies). Is there any way to put an upper limit on the number of AGA references included in the headers for continuing replies like this? There was thread recently about this in the German TB-NG. This was about newsgroups, not mails. TB can handle growing references, but it is apparently not appreciated in the usenet to have more than 20 or so reference headers. The relevant RFC (forgot the number) suggests that the first and a couple of the last references are being kept so as to not exceeed the magic number, and some news readers handle that automatically. TB is a mail reader. Are you referring to the usenet? Because for mail, the number of references doesn't really matter, and the RFC applies only to newsgroups. -- Cheers, Thomas. A watched telephone never rings. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Occasional freezing problems
Hello Atanas, On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:00:30 +0300 GMT (24/10/2004, 19:00 +0700 GMT), Atanas Vasilev wrote: AV This is an issue I have encountered even in earlier versions of AV TheBat... While writing a new message in the Message editor the whole AV application freezes for some 10-15 seconds and during this period I AV can do nothing. This is what happens over here when TB is checking mail. Can you confirm the freezing happens during mail check? I can continue typing and after the mail check, the letters appear on the screen. Same on your computer? Are you using dial-up? What is your Windows version? -- Cheers, Thomas. Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hello Gerard, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:38:36 +0200 GMT (25/10/2004, 21:38 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G If you want to see the date, created or received/send, you can select to G display that. Just right-click in the part above the email text in the G pre-view window and select headers. No, for sent messages, TB will not tell you when it was actually sent. I am missing that as well. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hilfe, mein Keyboard ist kaputt, es schreibt statt Passworten nur Sternchen... Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?
Good evening Gerard, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:38:36 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: G If you want to see the date, created or received/send, you can select to G display that. Just right-click in the part above the email text in the G pre-view window and select headers. G Or am I misinterpreting all this. there is no such field as date/time sent. You can just see the received or created date or - in case of the sent folder - the date saved, but not the date the message had actually been delivered. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs SecureBat! 2.12.4 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation when moving folders for rules
Hello Anthony, On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:27:02 +0200 GMT (23/10/2004, 13:27 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: You do empty the Recycle Bin occasionally, right? Pal, with statements that ridiculous AGA I used to do technical support, and that's a standard question, along AGA the lines of have you plugged the machine in. I agree with you, and your question was not out of line, IMHO. -- Cheers, Thomas. Gluehlampen brennen heller, wenn man sie vor dem Einschrauben aus der Verpackung nimmt. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Oct 2004, @ @ at 17:36:41 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: Nice. But I'm a little afraid with a such technical solution for a poor rookie IT user like me... The aspiration of yours is not of a poor rookie IT user, so you probably have the seed of ability to overcome this anxiety. When this happen, X-Ray will still be here around. You may like it or not, but using TB you already entered an area of mangling and tweaking, and X-Ray is only an extension of TB, as a medusa's limb. You are already infected and partially assimilated. There is no help with it. You may go only deeper, and deeper, and deeper... Your eyelids are heavy... you feel sleepy... you're downloading X-Ray... - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 54 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBfTW+9q62QPd3XuIRAuN/AJ4lNF3Gm1UB43k2UoKdL7p6DK/yogCfUdVs XAyu8ZlUkR2Sk2/dPBk9juY= =yrkT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Occasional freezing problems
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tbudl- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Fernandez Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:10 PM To: Atanas Vasilev on TBUDL Subject: Re: Occasional freezing problems This is what happens over here when TB is checking mail. Can you confirm the freezing happens during mail check? I can continue typing and after the mail check, the letters appear on the screen. Same on your computer? Are you using dial-up? What is your Windows version? Hi, Thomas, it could be happening while checking mail, but certainly not only then - because I have my POP3 account set to be checked every 15 minutes and the freezing occurs every 20 - 30 seconds. I've also experienced the scenario with the letters appearing later if I continue typing while the window has been frozen I'm on a LAN internet and my OS is Windows 2000, SP 4 I also want to answer the guys who suggested that I remove all temp files, TheBat has created. However, this did not solve the issue. I also wish to apologize to everyone who may have experienced any inconvenience as a result of my breaking the list rules and regulations by top-posting or whatever the term was. I really hope that after 2 or 3 erroneous messages I will manage to post at least one without making any moderator or user angry. ;) Thank you again in advance for every suggestion that could lead to solving my problem! -- Atanas Vasilev Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Occasional freezing problems
Hello Atanas! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 1:32 PM, you wrote: AV ... the freezing occurs every 20 - 30 seconds. I've also AV experienced the scenario with the letters appearing later if I AV continue typing while the window has been frozen Every 20 to 30 seconds? This would be a true show-stopper for me. In other words, I would not be able to continue to use the particular version of The Bat! in which it was happening. Now, I experience the occasional freeze for 2-3 seconds while typing in TB!'s Edit Mail Message window. (I use the MicroEd editor.) But I thought I knew what it is. I have my anti-virus program set to check for new updates every 57 minutes. And since I don't experience the slow-down/freeze very often and not in a particular rhythm of recurrence, I thought that my AV update check was taking too many resources, temporarily. Do you have any such set-up that might be interfering? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hi On Monday, 25 October, 2004, at 1:02:12 PM, Peter Hampf wrote: What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 Or perhaps x-sentdate: as TB probably has no way of knowing when it will be delivered. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?
Good evening MFPA, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:41:48 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote: What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 M Or perhaps x-sentdate: as TB probably has no way of knowing when M it will be delivered. that's a case of definition. When TB sents the message to the host defined in the account settings, it has *delivered* the mail. But that's splitting hairs. Any kludge would be useful ... -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs SecureBat! 2.12.4 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?
==Original message text=== From: Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 25, 2004, 7:19:59 PM Subject: Date of a sent message ? MM You are already infected and partially assimilated. There is no help MM with it. You may go only deeper, and deeper, and deeper... ===End of original message text=== ;-) I think you're wright and I mean it's not the worst virus I could catch with IT ! Let's go and try X-Ray ! -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hello WilWilWil! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:57 PM, you wrote: W ;-) I think you're wright and I mean it's not the worst virus I W could catch with IT ! W Let's go and try X-Ray ! Good for you, WilWilWil! In the meantime, the RitLabs development team is in the process of making improvements to The Bat! for the Christmas Edition full release. A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra kludge if enough people here thought that it would be useful. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:03:16 -0500 GMT(25/10/2004, 23:03 + GMT), Mary Bull wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. I'd support it. -- Eric Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Date of a sent message ?
Good evening WilWilWil, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:35:20 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it :) -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs SecureBat! 2.12.4 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hello Eric! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 5:10 PM, you wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. E I'd support it. I'd need some knowledgeable people to help me word it. I'm such a novice at these things. But I do know how to Report bugs and wishes at BT now. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hello Peter! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? PH by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it PH :) I'm ready to put a BT Wish, if someone will help me word it clearly. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migration from v1.6 to 2.12
I have v 1.62 on a Win98SE computer. My mailbox is in a directory that is different from the program directory. I have a new computer running WinXP-Home. I copy my Mail directory to this computer and installed v2.12, specifying the location of the Mail directory. How do I get the WinXP computer to pick up all the accounts in the Mail directory AND the message filters for each Account -- without having to re-create all of them? The colors of the icons are different from 1.x. I prefer those of 1.x -- the colors and outlines are stronger and easier to distinguish. Can I change the icons to those from 1.x? If yes, how? -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Oct 2004, @ @ at 17:54:03 -0500, when Mary Bull wrote: Hello Peter! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? PH by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it PH :) I'm ready to put a BT Wish, if someone will help me word it clearly. Perhaps like this: Dear gentlemen, Please add a feature for a kludge Sent, which would define the time/date when a message is *sent*, so that we, and our correspondents, could administrate our mail even better. It is perhaps a small step for a programmer, but is a huge one for users. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 55 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBfZVp9q62QPd3XuIRAp0eAKCD2/VIfDbLbu6WR0WokqscwCKG2QCeIRB3 4xL3z5ntNMjCWxTOVN7/5W8= =LFJ3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hallo Eric, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:10:13 +0100GMT (26-10-2004, 0:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. E I'd support it. I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's strongest feature until now is that it doesn't do that. Apart from that, you'd need an option to add the time/date of sending, would this kludge be inserted before sending (when you don't know yet, whether sending is gonna work) or after sending, so you'll save another message than you'll actually have sent. No, the best way to keep track of when you sent your message is to BCC it to yourself. It'll have a Received: header from your ISP and it's the same as what you sent. -- Groetjes, Roelof As I feared, you have no sense of humor. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp7BN1i24KNA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hi On Monday, 25 October, 2004, at 10:23:15 PM, Peter Hampf wrote: that's a case of definition. When TB sents the message to the host defined in the account settings, it has *delivered* the mail. The SMTP host defined in my account settings is localhost. I would say a message is not delivered until it is available to the recipient. (eg on his POP3 server) But that's splitting hairs. Indeed it is. Any kludge would be useful ... Yes. Has anybody put it on the wish-list? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
On Mon, 2004-10-25, Peter Hampf wrote: Good evening MFPA, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:41:48 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote: What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 M Or perhaps x-sentdate: as TB probably has no way of knowing when M it will be delivered. that's a case of definition. When TB sents the message to the host defined in the account settings, it has *delivered* the mail. But that's splitting hairs. Any kludge would be useful ... If it is a *kludge* you want, do what I do... add: %BCC=%FromAddr%- to your message templates and you will receive a copy of all of your sent messages in your inbox on the next poll. Save these instead of (or in addition to, if you are especially paranoid :-) ) the automatic Sent Mail copies. To check the actual sent date and time, open the saved message and hit either Shft+Ctl+K or F9 to see the actual message header and look for the date field of the earliest (bottom-most) Received header field. This will be the time stamp that was added when The Bat! sent the message on its first hop. -- Bill McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Hello Mica! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 7:08 PM, you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? PH by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it PH :) MB I'm ready to put a BT Wish, if someone will help me word it clearly. MM Perhaps like this: MM Dear gentlemen, :) Politely address them, of course. MM Please add a feature for a kludge Sent, which would define the MM time/date when a message is *sent*, so that we, and our MM correspondents, could administrate our mail even better. It is MM perhaps a small step for a programmer, but is a huge one for MM users. The style is elegant. I shall take some of your words and revise them to fit the formula of the fields I must fill in at Bug Tracker. Thank you so much, Mica. Then I will need everyone who is not already registered at BT to go there and set up an account, so they can put supporting notes to the form I have filled out. However, I have just read Roelof's comment, and so I am going to wait for further knowledgeable opinions. Roelof knows a great deal about The Bat! and how it works, and I do not. I will think more on this project tomorrow. I've just come in from dinner with a lot of my relatives and I need to brush my teeth and go to bed now. So, good night, everyone. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Roelof Otten @ 2004-Oct-25 8:21:28 PM Date of a sent message ? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo Eric, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:10:13 +0100GMT (26-10-2004, 0:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. E I'd support it. I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's strongest feature until now is that it doesn't do that. That's a very good point. Perhaps the send date could be stored in the TBB file separately from the message itself... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Notice in health food shop window: CLOSED DUE TO ILLNESS pgp9tLKvtlkwm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New filter does not move message
Hi Folks, Over the weekend I upgraded my system to the latest version of The Bat! Tonight I created a new filter, that I've copied and pasted below, with the simple intent to move such messages in the future to a folder under one of my accounts. However, when I refilter the Inbox, the dialog indicates that one message was filtered, but the filter does NOT move the message as it is intended to. Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [E65F6592.01C4BB04.04189CD4.4FFCA226] Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cp_nelson\5CIntermittent\20contact\5CNELA IsActive Ignore endFilter -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
On Tuesday, 26 October 2004, at 00:12:48 [GMT +0700] you wrote: TF No, for sent messages, TB will not tell you when it was actually sent. TF I am missing that as well. that sounds like a job for the MTA, not the MUA. even on incoming messages, it will be the MTA that will fill all the Received: lines. having said that TB! has a lot of features and I'd be surprised if there wasn't some way to do it. other things are lost when you save as draft also - such as turning encryption on. cheers, davidp. -- David Pascoe, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Western Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migration from v1.6 to 2.12
Hello z5worg, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 1:07:56 AM, you wrote: How do I get the WinXP computer to pick up all the accounts in the Mail directory AND the message filters for each Account -- without having to re-create all of them? TheBat has a built-in backup function (in the Tools menu). Make a backup of your 1.6x installation and restore it on the other machine, that should do the trick. The colors of the icons are different from 1.x. I prefer those of 1.x -- the colors and outlines are stronger and easier to distinguish. Can I change the icons to those from 1.x? If yes, how? You can use so called glyphs (an external set of icons). You can start at batworld.de - its a german site but you can access the files for v1/v2 directly with this link: http://www.batworld.net/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=listarticlessecid=3 -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
