Re: Moving to a new pc

2020-02-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard,

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:45:38 -0500 GMT (21-Feb-20, 07:45 +0700 GMT),
Richard Newman via TBUDL wrote:

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T>> Do you think one or the other method is safer?
>I think transferring via the TBK backup is safer and cleaner
> . . . when it works (it usually does). Running the Maintenance
> Center first should help insure this. If it doesn't work, it is
> probably because of corruptions in your files that weren't fixed by
> running Maintenance. Then Peter's method of copying the data
> directory over will work, quite probably bringing the file corruptions over.
>Remember, you still have the original data files and,
> probably/hopefully, a normal system backup of the same as insurance.

FWIW, I have used the internal back-up/restore methid several times
when moving to a new computer without any problems.

I don't run the full Maintenance but only "Delete Duplicates" and
"Compact" in order to not copy all the deleted files. I also "Empty"
and "Compact" Sent, Outbox and Trash.

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Re: Moving to a new pc

2020-02-20 Thread Richard Newman via TBUDL
Hello Tom,

T> thank you for your assistance. When you refer to the tbk file that's  the  
backup  files,  right?  
   Yes, the TBK file is the Bat backup file. To prepare for moving, I would 
first go to the Folder Maintenance Center and run everything. That will 
compress your files and to hopefully assure that everything is aligned. Then I 
would run a new full backup just to use for the transfer rather than relying on 
your existing weekly backup.

T> Will that include also my templates?
   Yes, your TBK backup should include your templates, account information, 
address book, everything. Just make sure that you have checked all the boxes 
including global for the backup.

T> Do you think one or the other method is safer?
   I think transferring via the TBK backup is safer and cleaner . . . when 
it works (it usually does). Running the Maintenance Center first should help 
insure this. If it doesn't work, it is probably because of corruptions in your 
files that weren't fixed by running Maintenance. Then Peter's method of copying 
the data directory over will work, quite probably bringing the file corruptions 
over.
   Remember, you still have the original data files and, 
probably/hopefully, a normal system backup of the same as insurance.
   
Hope this helps.   

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Re: Moving to a new pc

2020-02-20 Thread Tom

Friday, February 21, 2020, 3:10:39 AM, you wrote:

> If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a TBK.
> 1) If you want your data in the normal default location just open
> the new install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK info
> or setting up any account. That will establish the default data
> directory. Then point TB to your TBK and it will bring over
> everything to the default location.

Dear Richard,

thank you for your assistance. When you refer to the tbk file,
that's  the  backup  files,  right?   I  can  see  my  weekly tbk file
currently is about 9.5gb.   Just checked my schedule and for my
backups I ticked everything under options and all accounts. Will
that include also my templates?

Do you think one or the other method is safer?


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Re: Moving to a new pc

2020-02-20 Thread Tom

> Here is how I have done it: First look up the location of the "Mail
> Directory" on your current PC under Preferences/System. Then install
> TB on the new machine but don't start it yet. Or start it and don't
> configure anything but quit it. Then copy the complete "Mail
> Directory" from your old machine to the new one. That's it - if you
> haven't changed the default location of the "Mail Directory" on your old PC.

Peter,
thanks for your help.

Currently I am using the default setting pointing to my
os/drive Appdata...
I can see that both under preferences and registry.
When you mention the complete mail directory, do you
refer to the folder "The Bat!" in appData folder, ie I just copy
everything including all subfolders? That seems almost too easy.

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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

2020-02-20 Thread Susanne
Hello,

I don't have anything about "Message Management" under Mail Management.

Just "Deletion" and "IMAP fine tune", and neither one has anything about 
deleting mail from server when it is
removed from trash.


Thursday, February 20, 2020, 12:46:29 PM, MAU wrote:

> Hello Susanne,

>>   I am trying to set up TB to delete trash on Gmail, when I empty the TB 
>> trash folder.
>>   From reading online, there is supposed to be a setting somewhere 
>>   (Delete mail from server when it is removed from Trash), but I can't find 
>> it anywhere.
>>   
>>   Thanks for any help!

> Account Properties -> Mail Management -> Message Management 




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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

2020-02-20 Thread MAU
Hello Susanne,

>   I am trying to set up TB to delete trash on Gmail, when I empty the TB 
> trash folder.
>   From reading online, there is supposed to be a setting somewhere 
>   (Delete mail from server when it is removed from Trash), but I can't find 
> it anywhere.
>   
>   Thanks for any help!

Account Properties -> Mail Management -> Message Management 

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Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

2020-02-20 Thread Susanne
Hello,

  I am trying to set up TB to delete trash on Gmail, when I empty the TB trash 
folder.
  From reading online, there is supposed to be a setting somewhere 
  (Delete mail from server when it is removed from Trash), but I can't find it 
anywhere.
  
  Thanks for any help!

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Re: Moving to a new pc

2020-02-20 Thread Richard Newman via TBUDL
Hello Tom,

Peter's suggestions should work just fine for you.

I keep my TB data files on a separate hard drive/partition. And have gone 
through the same exercise you are encountering. I usually do a backup in TB and 
move the files over via the backup to keep things in sync.

If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a TBK. 
1) If you want your data in the normal default location just open the new 
install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK info or setting up any 
account. That will establish the default data directory. Then point TB to your 
TBK and it will bring over everything to the default location.
2) If you want you data in another location, give TB that location during 
set-up or go back into the installed TB and change the mail directory (under 
Options, Preferences, System) to the location you want. Then have TB import 
your TBK file.

Your choice on which method you prefer.

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