Re: Website 'mailto' problem

2001-05-20 Thread Charlie Turner

Hi TBUDL,
 On Sun, 20 May 2001, at 21:25:41 [GMT +0100] you wrote:

WM Hello TBUDL,

WM   On my partner's website ( www.twenty4ten.com ) there is a
WM   simple 'mailto' type contact link. This puts in her
WM   email address and the email subject. This works fine
WM   with (the lesser clients - Outlook, Eudora etc.) but
WM   not when TB! is the default client. It kicks-off TB!
WM   but leaves the 'to' and 'subject' fields blank. Is
WM   this a feature or am I doing something wrong?
WM   TIA.

Suggest you read the following William
  http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help/faq.htm#mailtosubject

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encoding

2001-03-15 Thread Charlie Turner

Composed on 15/03/2001, at 19:47 GMT

My default Message encoding is set at Central European (ISO-8859-2).
For the life of me I can't remember selecting this as my default (old
age memory loss perhaps), I'd prefer to have the default set to
Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1). This is easy to find and set in the editor for
an individual email, but doesn't alter TB! default.

It is also possible to alter the individual account settings for the
encoding of selected templates. What I'd like to know is this; is
there one option somewhere for resetting the default encoding for all
accounts and templates globally across TB!? Or is this achieved by
altering every template in every account individually?

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Re[6]: backup problem and 30 day Trial question

2000-10-09 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)


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Hi Britta,
 On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, at 23:19:39 [GMT +0100] you wrote:

B Regards,

B P.S.: I'm new to this list (on digest) - Hello to everyone.

Hi waves

and welcome.

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Macro options

2000-10-08 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Composed on 08/10/2000, at 14:09 GMT

 I've spent some time looking through the TBUDL archive, and
 discovered a couple of macro options that I'd not seen
 before. I'm beginning to wonder if there might be more macro
 options available than are actually listed when hitting the
 macro button when composing a template.

 For example I couldn't find the following: %QUOTESTYLE 
 %QINCLUDE which are just two macro options I discovered while
 going back through the archive. Or have I missed a complete
 section on TB! macro's somewhere?!

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Re[2]: Macro options

2000-10-08 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas
On 08 October 2000, at 14:59:35 +0100 you wrote:

TF Hallo Charlie,

CTc  For example I couldn't find the following: %QUOTESTYLE 
CTc  %QINCLUDE which are just two macro options I discovered while
CTc  going back through the archive. Or have I missed a complete
CTc  section on TB! macro's somewhere?!

TF Help / Topics / Message Templates / The Complete List of Template
TF Macros. :-)

Well I'll be so it is! Searching TB! Help is akin to a
magical mystery tour at times ;)

 
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Re[2]: Macro options

2000-10-08 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hi A
 On Sunday, at 3:06:53 PM you wrote:

ACM These are both listed in the help's macro list. There are other recent
ACM ones which haven't been added to the list as yet. The introduction of
ACM new macros tends to lag the help. New macros recently introduced include
ACM the %Comment, %Comment="" and %Org="" macros. These are not yet in the
ACM help AFAICS.

Imagine just how much more deadly TB! could be with a really well
written manual and help file. Is there no end to the hidden options
within TB!? ;-)

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Re: FONT

2000-10-07 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)


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Hello Raoul
On 07 October 2000, at 6:29:33 PM, you wrote:

RC SIR,

RC Is it possible to set my font to Arial or Times New Roman. I have
RC noted The Bat's preference for Courier. Is there a reason for this?

 Go to: Options- Editor Preferences- Select the "Display" tab.
 From this window you can change the font, for another fixed width
 Font. Hit "Change" button (top right), and select your preferences.
 When finished hit "OK" and you've made your changes.

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Re[2]: glyphs documentation request

2000-10-05 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

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Hello Jason
On 05 October 2000, at 08:24, you wrote:


JT -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
JT Hash: SHA1

JT Hello Charlie and everyone else...

CTc would I be correct in thinking that this thread is referring to
CTc the editing of graphic images used within TB?

JT Hmmm...Depends on what you're thinking specifically.

JT Glyphs can change the icons in TB, yes.

Aha! Now I would definitely be interested in learning more

JT Glyphs can not "skin" TB or change its startup logo.

I'm not concerned with a skin, and I've switched the splash screen off
anyway Jason.

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Re[3]: privacy encryption

2000-10-05 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Gerd
On 05 October 2000, at 16:39, you wrote:

 -- Wait. Have you installed PGP?
GE Great, Karin !! I just imagine this had been the error: ROTFLMAO !

Ho Ho

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Re: privacy encryption

2000-10-04 Thread Charlie Turner

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Hello Jan
On 03 October 2000, at 21:57, you wrote:

JR  Could someone explain the advantages/disadvantages of using a
JR  service like privacy.com VS PGP? And does the current version
JR  of  TheBat!  work  with Version 6.5.8, the current version of
JR  PGP?

 I can't help you re the pro's and con's Jan, but I do have PGP 6.5.8
 and I haven't been able to set it up to work with TB - other than via
 PGPtray. I'm relatively new to TB, so admit this is almost certainly a
 failing on my part rather than TB!

 I've signed this reply via PGPtray- Current Window- Sign, because
 Privacy- PGP- Sign Entire Text does nothing. I'm going to have to
 spend some time looking into how I set up PGP to work with TB.

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Re[5]: privacy encryption

2000-10-04 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Graham
On 04 October 2000, at 20:11, you wrote:


CT( I've been looking around for the .dll Graham. Do you have the URL for
CT( it by any chance?

G Certainly, Charlie, its 

G http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

   I've downloaded the PGP Plugin DLL 98k file (v5.5, v6.0  v.6.5)
   After unzipping it appears to be batpgp55.dll, when I believe I should
   be installing batpgp60.dll.
   
   Also never having had the occasion to install .dlls before I could
   do with some pointers. Any help greatly appreciated Graham.

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Re[2]: privacy encryption

2000-10-04 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello A
On 04 October 2000, at 22:54, you wrote:

ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

ACM On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:17:14 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:

CTcI've downloaded the PGP Plugin DLL 98k file (v5.5, v6.0  v.6.5)
CTcAfter unzipping it appears to be batpgp55.dll, when I believe I should
CTcbe installing batpgp60.dll.

CTcAlso never having had the occasion to install .dlls before I could
CTcdo with some pointers. Any help greatly appreciated Graham.

ACM Unzip the DLL's into your TB! installation directory. Close and restart
ACM TB!.

 Ok done that, and still nothing! I've checked to confirm that the
 batpgp60.dll is in the same directory as TB!

ACM You may then go to the Tools | Privacy | Choose PGP Version menu item.

 Yep, no problem there.

ACM Select the appropriate version and you should then have things working
ACM fine. This will be evidenced by new Privacy menu items appearing, ie,
ACM PGP Preferences and PGY Key Manager.

 The menu items are listed all right. Privacy- PGP- shows up six
 options; Sign Block, Sign Entire Text etc. but selecting them
 does nothing!

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Re[2]: privacy encryption

2000-10-04 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello A
On 04 October 2000, at 23:52, you wrote:

ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

ACM On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:18:51 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:

CTc  Ok done that, and still nothing! I've checked to confirm that the
CTc  batpgp60.dll is in the same directory as TB!

ACM You should be using batpgp65.dll and not batpgp60.dll. Make sure that
ACM batpgp65.dll is in the TB! installation directory. You can forget the
ACM others as I've done.

Spot on! That's done the trick my friend, thank you very much.
I was about to shut down and head for bed when I got your reply, I
can now go off to sleep happy and contented.

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Re[2]: privacy encryption

2000-10-04 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

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Hello Karin
On 05 October 2000, at 00:02, you wrote:

KS On 05-10-2000 at 00:18, Charlie Turner (ceejay) kindly wrote:

ACM Unzip the DLL's into your TB! installation directory. Close and restart
ACM TB!.

  Ok done that, and still nothing! I've checked to confirm that the
  batpgp60.dll is in the same directory as TB!

ACM You may then go to the Tools | Privacy | Choose PGP Version menu item.

  Yep, no problem there.

ACM Select the appropriate version and you should then have things working
ACM fine. This will be evidenced by new Privacy menu items appearing, ie,
ACM PGP Preferences and PGY Key Manager.

  The menu items are listed all right. Privacy- PGP- shows up six
  options; Sign Block, Sign Entire Text etc. but selecting them
  does nothing!

KS You need to go to your main menu, select Tools, select
KS Privacy, select PGP Preferences. Make sure that under the
KS e-mail tab S/MIME is unckeched and that under General, it
KS says 'always encrypt to default key' if you want to be able
KS to read your own mesages back --

KS -- Wait. Have you installed PGP? It's not so that TB does it
KS all by itself. The dll simply provides a plug-in that sevres
KS as a mediator between PGP and TB. You need to install PGP
KS first for it to work.

   Thanks for you help Karin, as you will see from earlier posts
   I now it sorted. What would I do without this list though?

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Re[2]: Original message not quoted?

2000-10-03 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Ming-Li

On 03 October 2000, at 15:33, you wrote

-snip-
ML When replying, however, TB would look for only the plain-text part,
ML and quotes nothing when it couldn't find it. The workaround is to
ML select the part you want to quote and hit F4.

I guess that's the answer Ming-Li. I've also asked the sender (using Poco) if
they would consider setting Poco up to send plain text. Thanks for your help.

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Re[2]: Grid index out of range?

2000-10-03 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 03 October 2000, at 03:59, you wrote

TF Hi Charlie,

TF On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:48:18 +0100GMT (03/10/2000, 01:48 +0800GMT),
TF Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:

JD Grid index out of bounds is a Delphi/Pascal error message. I'm almost

CTc Thanks for your help Jamie, however I have to admit that Delphi/Pascal is
CTc going over my head. Basic, Markup, Flash etc. is more my bag ;)

TF It's the opposite here. But then, I'm also a user, and regardless of
TF whether I can explain *why* the error occurs, I'm unhappy *that* the
TF error occurs. It's a long-standing bug and I suggest the developers
TF fix the old bugs before going on with any new functionality, as
TF necessary as the new func may be.

I go along with your sentiments Thomas, but as you know I've not been using TB
long enough to familiarize myself with any long standing problems.

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Re[4]: Grid index out of range?

2000-10-02 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Jamie

On 02 October 2000, at 08:26, you wrote

JD Hello Charlie Turner (ceejay),
JD On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:07:31 +0100 GMT your local time,
JD which was Saturday, September 30, 2000, 08:07:31 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,

That's one impressive macro you've set up their Jamie.

JD Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:
CTc That describes my experience exactly, I guess it's nothing to
CTc bother about as it doesn't appear to have any lasting effect. I'd
CTc like to learn why this happens - purely to satisfy my own
CTc curiosity, I like to know *why* things happen.

JD Grid index out of bounds is a Delphi/Pascal error message. I'm almost
JD sure it's to do with calling a position in an array outside of the
JD current bounds. However, if it really it an array the error message
JD would be 'List Index out of bounds' (the same error message as for a
JD list box being referenced greater than the listBox.Items.Count value).

JD As it's a Grid Index out of bounds I'm assuming that the message list
JD window is actually a grid (a la Excel) not as I first assumed a
JD ListBox.

JD As we can't see the source code (unless you'd like to be really nice
JD to us Steffan) this is only a best guess.

Thanks for your help Jamie, however I have to admit that Delphi/Pascal is
going over my head. Basic, Markup, Flash etc. is more my bag ;)

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Re[3]: email services that work well w/ TB!

2000-10-02 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Alinda

On 02 October 2000, at 17:56, you wrote

-snip-
AH I can thoroughly recommend crosswinds. POP3, SMTP, unlimited space mail box and
AH webspace. No ads, free. Been using it for some months with The Bat! and have no
AH complaints.

AH http://www.crosswinds.com

Think you'll find that's www.crosswinds.net

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Original message not quoted?

2000-10-02 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

On 02/10/2000, at 22:57 

Don't know if anyone can throw any light on why when I attempt to reply to one
particular message the original message is not quoted. Unless that is
I choose to display the RFC-822 headers for the original message!?

I do have %QUOTES in the reply template. When replying to other messages
in the some folder the original message *is* quoted, which confirms to
me that I have no apparent problems with the template.

In case it's relevant here's the header:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.40])
by mars.zenithtech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00885
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:45:36 GMT
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: from oemcomputer (tnt-8-295.easynet.co.uk [195.40.205.39])
by latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54DFA53679
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon,  2 Oct 2000 20:01:34 +0100 (BST)
From: False [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Poco 2.1 (733) - EVALUATION VERSION
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:43:16 +0100
X-URL: http://www.pocomail.com/
X-Mark: 0
Subject: Thakz
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-UIDL: bP8!!D\^"!Hc(!!#/1!!

[Names   e-mail address's altered]

Charlie Turner (ceejay)

TB ver:1.46d | On Windows 98 4.10 1998 Pll 350Mhz (128MB Ram)

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Re[2]: Inbound TCP Communication

2000-10-01 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 01 October 2000, at 06:13, you wrote

TF Hallo Charlie,

TF On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:38:39 +0100 GMT (01/10/2000, 04:38 +0800 GMT),
TF Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:

CTc Ok, here's something else to think about. My firewall is set up to ask
CTc for permission when any new installation attempts to communicate for
CTc the first time. Every program I've installed since setting up the
CTc firewall has fired this rule and asked for permission, that is all
CTc except oneTB!

CTc cue X-files music
TF  LOL

TF I don't have this problem, because the app doesn't need to ask for
TF permission. If any tries anything, and it is not explicitely permitted
TF in the over 100 rules that I have set up for the firewall, I will be
TF asked. Otherwise, if a firewall depended on the app to actively report
TF there actions to the firewall, it would be conveniently easy to write
TF an app to bypass the firewall and cause damage or disclose
TF confidential information, if you are so inclined.

TF I guess somewhere in the myriad of rules there is one that permits
TF "any application" to make a POP connection and an SMTP connection. I
TF had to permit these for TB in the beginning.

Some URL's re security that I've found useful. They may be of interest to
your good self and others in the list:
www.aks.com/esafe/enterprise/sandbox.asp
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=1565921240
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=1565924258
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-1999-02.html
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Ie/security/default.asp
http://www.eeye.com/database/advisories/ad06081999/ad06081999.html
http://www.securityfocus.com/

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Re[2]: Grid index out of range?

2000-09-30 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Cricket

On 30 September 2000, at 00:45, you wrote

C Info'ing to BETA list too

C Hello Charlie,

C Friday, September 29, 2000, 1:35:14 PM, you wrote:

CTc On 29/09/2000, at 08:05 

CTcDoes anyone know what this error message refers to: "grid index out
CTcof range"? I was tidying one of my folders - deleting a number of
CTcolder unwanted messages - when the error message stopped me part
CTcway through the process.

CTcAs a result the first column of the message line in the folder was
CTcfilled with gobeldydegook. It doesn't appear to have caused any
CTclasting problems. So I'm just asking out of curiosity and for
CTcfuture reference.

C I get this problem occaisionally but only when I am deleting messages
C one at a time from a thread that has not been expanded. Usually when I
C get to the last message in the thread or next to last message when I
C get the "grid index out of range". Once it appears I can't open any
C other messages until I quit TB and restart it.

That describes my experience exactly, I guess it's nothing to bother
about as it doesn't appear to have any lasting effect. I'd like to
learn why this happens - purely to satisfy my own curiosity, I like to
know *why* things happen.

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Re: Inbound TCP Communication

2000-09-30 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 30 September 2000, at 19:03, you wrote

TF Hello TBUDL!

TF My firewall just told me that the "Application: THEBAT.EXE attempted
TF an Inbound TCP Communication". Local Service: nbsession (139). Remote
TF adress: 163.31.23.191.

TF The remote address belongs to a university in Taiwan, and there are
TF kids who try go get into my computer all the time. However, I am
TF surprised that this time, the attempt seems to have been initiated by
TF TB. This is new. How come?

Ok, here's something else to think about. My firewall is set up to ask
for permission when any new installation attempts to communicate for
the first time. Every program I've installed since setting up the
firewall has fired this rule and asked for permission, that is all
except oneTB!

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Grid index out of range?

2000-09-29 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

On 29/09/2000, at 08:05 

   Does anyone know what this error message refers to: "grid index out
   of range"? I was tidying one of my folders - deleting a number of
   older unwanted messages - when the error message stopped me part
   way through the process.

   As a result the first column of the message line in the folder was
   filled with gobeldydegook. It doesn't appear to have caused any
   lasting problems. So I'm just asking out of curiosity and for
   future reference.
   
Charlie Turner (ceejay)

TB ver:1.46d S/N:D912B2BF | On Windows 98 4.10 1998 Pll 350Mhz (128MB Ram)

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-29 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 29 September 2000, at 08:25, you wrote

CTc Sorry to appear contradictory, but in my case it does. TB will merrily
CTc go attempting to establish connections at intervals - as set in
CTc options, periodical checking. I have stopped this by un-checking
CTc periodical checking an all accounts. Which of course means I now have to
CTc manually ask TB to check mail.

TF If you are sure that you have not checked "Use account specific
TF network settings" at at least one of your accounts under Account /
TF Properties / Network, then I am out of my wits.

Yes Thomas, I confirm that *none* of my accounts has "Use account
specific network settings" checked. I am now convinced that this is a
bug, and have sent off a bug report.

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-29 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 29 September 2000, at 08:28, you wrote

 This is not a bug. If the connection fails, TB makes anotehr attempt.

CTc And a very laudable action that is too, but one I would like to
CTc control. The addition of "If connections fails, attempt to establish a
CTc new connection?" would do nicely. I have my reasons for not wanting TB
CTc to establish the connection. But that's another (wondering off topic) story.

TF Try setting "Maximum number of retries": 0 (zero). Default is 10
TF (ten). You'll find it in the main menu under Options / Network 
TF Admin, the same screen where your only Network set-up is.

But this is only available if "Use Account-specific Network settings"
is checked. Which presumably means the setting would be ignored in my
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Re[2]: Regex?

2000-09-28 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Marcel

On 28 September 2000, at 18:29, you wrote

M I copied the url from one of the pages, and the bottom half is missing
M :( (You've gotta love IE) therefore I thought there where v's in
M the url.

M The one must work:
M http://physlab.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/%7Eorycc/vim-regex.html

Yep that worked fine Marcel thanks, a very useful site. It was
promptly added my favorites folder.

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-28 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 28 September 2000, at 03:02, you wrote

ACM Actually, you *can* prevent it from checking while you're offline.

ACM Do the following:
TF [...]
CTc I've tried that, and I assure you that TB *still* insists on trying to
CTc establish a dial-up connection when offline.

TF See my tow earlier postings in this thread. Curtis' instruction is not
TF complete.

Seen... thanks.

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-28 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 28 September 2000, at 03:01, you wrote

TF If you press the cancel button, *this* attempt will be cancelled, and
TF another attempt will be made later. However, since a few versions ago,
TF we also have an *Abort* button, and when you press that one, TB will
TF not make another attempt. I think you didn't know this! :-)

Sorry to appear contradictory, but in my case it does. TB will merrily
go attempting to establish connections at intervals - as set in
options, periodical checking. I have stopped this by un-checking
periodical checking an all accounts. Which of course means I now have to
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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-28 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Tobias

On 28 September 2000, at 14:28, you wrote

 This is not a bug. If the connection fails, TB makes anotehr attempt.

And a very laudable action that is too, but one I would like to
control. The addition of "If connections fails, attempt to establish a
new connection?" would do nicely. I have my reasons for not wanting TB
to establish the connection. But that's another (wondering off topic) story.

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Re[2]: Regex?

2000-09-28 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello A

On 28 September 2000, at 23:54, you wrote

CTc My use of regexp has thus far been limited to that used in Gravity.
CTc I believe format does vary depending on the platform being used.
CTc Are the contents of the book relevant to TB's form of regexp, or is
CTc it more of a Perl programers book?

ACM It focus' a lot on Pearl but mentions other scripting languages and how
ACM regex's differ between them. What it offers is a solid foundation and
ACM understanding of regex's. TB!'s help will then fill in the concerns with
ACM what metacharacters etc. are supported.

Well I think on your recommendation I'll go check it out, thanks
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Re[2]: custom quotes search criteria

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Marck

On 27 September 2000, at 16:37, you wrote

JR   As  for  pulling the name text after "from" in a digest,
JR   would  this  process not become easier within a selected
JR   portion  of text, i.e. text in the clipboard which would
JR   generally  include  only  one  name?  If this is so, how
JR   would I apply a regular expression to selected text?

MDP I  don't  think you can. You can perform a regexp on the quotable text
MDP or the headers or the original text but not the clipboard.

I'm  pleased  to  hear  that.  I've been looking in the Help files and
searched  through  the FAQ but can't find anything that explains how I
would set up a regex to handle quotable text.

What  I  want  to  achieve  is  this: place the cursor after the first
paragraph  of  the  quoted text when composing a reply. I'd appreciate
any offers of help with this one. TIA

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Re[4]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Oleg

On 27 September 2000, at 12:53, you wrote

CTc Reading or writing e-mail off-line... hitting an off-line button would
CTc prevent auto-checking of mailboxes. Those with permanent connections
CTc connection (unmetered Telco charges) wouldn't of course worry about
CTc this. Only those who establish intermittent connections would have a
CTc need fro this.

OZ Why?  Why  to  make  user  to  push  buttons  if  TB!  could check for
OZ connection to exist prior to check mail?

I've  a  feeling  I  may be doing something wrong here, so please bear
with me on this one. What happens to you (and other TB users) when you
run  TB while off-line? For me TB will repeatedly attempt to establish
a  dial-up  connection. This happens no matter how I set up properties
for any my accounts. I have heard that this may be a bug!?

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Tobias

On 27 September 2000, at 15:32, you wrote

TF What should this do exactly?

 Reading or writing e-mail off-line... hitting an off-line button would
 prevent auto-checking of mailboxes. Those with permanent connections
 connection (unmetered Telco charges) wouldn't of course worry about
 this. Only those who establish intermittent connections would have a
 need fro this.

TW Well I would appreciate an online/offline button as well (although I
TW have a permanent connection). I have TB! check my mailinglists every
TW 15 minutes. But obviously I cannot always read the mails every 15
TW minutes. So it is not unusual that there pile up 100+ mails from a
TW list, that I have to go through. During this time I would rather
TW prefer, that TB! does not get the new mails, since it would sort some of
TW them into threads I have already read a moment ago. I would then
TW risk deleting the unread mail with the mail I went through.

Makes sense to me Tobias. I wouldn't place an online/offline button in
the "must have, can't live without" category but I would find it a
useful feature.


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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello A

On 27 September 2000, at 18:31, you wrote

TF Since you trash them after reading them, I think this would make
TF sense for you too. Would it?

ACM He threads his messages. I understand what he's saying.

ACM Take Gravity for instance, you can have it check the newservers at
ACM user-defined periodic intervals, *but*, it also has an online/offline
ACM button right there on the toolbar. Toggle it off, and it will stop doing
ACM the periodic checks, even though you're still connected to the internet.

ACM I agree that this would be a useful feature. There are times when I'm
ACM downloading a file and TB! attempts to access the mail server. It has
ACM the dickens of a time trying to connect and also slows down my download
ACM speed. When I used to use X-Ray, these attempts would at times end with
ACM X-Ray crashing. I have to prevent periodic checking to prevent this. I'd
ACM prefer to just be able to hit an easily accessible switch. Right now,
ACM what I do is to disable the periodic checking option in the account
ACM options when I wish to. This method would of course annoy those that
ACM need to do this 10 times per day. :-)

Very succinct, I would guess there may be a number of users that would
find an online/offilne button useful.

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello A

On 27 September 2000, at 20:26, you wrote

CTc I've a feeling I may be doing something wrong here, so please bear
CTc with me on this one. What happens to you (and other TB users) when
CTc you run TB while off-line? For me TB will repeatedly attempt to
CTc establish a dial-up connection. This happens no matter how I set up
CTc properties for any my accounts. I have heard that this may be a
CTc bug!?

ACM Actually, you *can* prevent it from checking while you're offline.

ACM Do the following:

i) Go to Options - Network Administration
ACM ii) Enable 'dial-up network connection'.
ACM iii) Enable 'no automatic dial for periodic checking'.
ACM iv) Enable 'Use existing Dial-up connection (if any)'.

I've tried that, and I assure you that TB *still* insists on trying to
establish a dial-up connection when offline.

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 27 September 2000, at 13:01, you wrote

TF You have to set up your dialling instructions *inly* under Options /
TF Network  Admin. 
TF   = "only"

Yep, done that.

CTc I only had my main account properties Networking checked to use
CTc Account Specific Network settings... which could of course be part of
CTc the problem.

TF Deejay, "only one" is more than zero. You should have "Use
TF specific network" is zero accounts. ;-)

I now have NO (zero) accounts checked to use account specific network
settings.

CTc I've un-checked this option, lets see what happens.

TF I expect it works as you hoped for. At least, that's what I confirm
TF for my home installation of TB.

Sadly no. I can confirm that TB *still* insists on trying to establish
a dial-up connection. I am as certain as I can be that I've tried just
about every permutation of settings in Network properties.

I am as certain as I can be that is a bug and will report it. It is
worth mentioning, that this bug won't show up for everyone. I believe
this may only happen when the connection is dropped remotely. My
dial-up provider operates a two hour cut off, plus due to over
subscription of this particular service line dropping is a pretty
regular occurrence too. I know what you're going to say change your
provider. Sadly for a number of reasons it's not that simple.

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Re[2]: Regex?

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Peter

On 27 September 2000, at 21:07, you wrote

CTI  haven't  been  able  to  find  any information in the help files
CTregarding  how  I  position  the  cursor  (in a reply) *within* the
CTquoted text. As an example, the message I want to reply to contains
CT4  paragraphs  and  I want to position the cursor at the end of the
CTfirst   paragraph.   Regex  I  guess  holds  the  answer  any  help
CTappreciated, thanks.

PS You could try working with two regexp matches:

PS %quotes="(regexp matching the first paragraph)"
PS %cursor
PS %quotes="(regexp matching from the second paragraph onwards)"

PS but i don't know if more than one %quotes macro within one template is
PS allowed.

Firstly  thanks  for your reply Peter. Being unfamiliar with the regex
format  used  in  TB, I really do need some in depth reading matter on
the  subject.  I've  stumbled  through some hit and miss attempts, but
sadly  I've  made  very  little  progress.  Any  suggestions regarding
reading matter, i.e. URL's or books Peter?

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Re[2]: Regex?

2000-09-27 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Marcel

On 27 September 2000, at 22:22, you wrote

M One of the support sites also had a small tutorial about the regexps.
M After reading that, it was very easy to apply Regexps in TB!.

M The url for the tutorial is:
M http://phylabs.sci.ccnv.cunv.edu/%7Eorvcc/vim-regex.html

Is that a valid URL Marcel? All I get is "cannot find server or DNS
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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-26 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Thomas

On 26 September 2000, at 14:28, you wrote

TF Hallo Charlie,

TF On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:53:39 +0100 GMT (26/09/2000, 04:53 +0800 GMT),
TF Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote:

CTc   Does  anyone else think an on-line/off-line button for the main tool
CTc   bar  a useful idea.

TF What should this do exactly?

Reading or writing e-mail off-line... hitting an off-line button would
prevent auto-checking of mailboxes. Those with permanent connections
connection (unmetered Telco charges) wouldn't of course worry about
this. Only those who establish intermittent connections would have a
need fro this.

CTc  The main reason I ask is I have TB set up to use
CTc   Dial-up  networking | Use an existing connection when available | No
CTc   automatic dial for periodical checking. Trouble is the ISP I use for
CTc   dial-up  has  a  two  hour  cut off, and it can - at busy times - be
CTc   difficult  re-establishing a connection. I have a couple of accounts
CTc   set  to  check  mail boxes every 5 minutes by default, as a result I
CTc   have  TB  trying  to  establish  a connection

TF Why would TB try to establish a connection if you have "no automatic
TF redial" checked?

Precisely my point Thomas, I wouldn't have expected it to - but in my
case it does!

TF The reason will be that at least one of the accounts has "Use specific
TF Network..." checked with dial-up information under Account /
TF Properties / Network. Any spefici netowrk setting will ignore the "no
TF automatic" instruction.

TF You have to set up your dialling instructions *inly* under Options /
TF Network  Admin.

I only had my main account properties Networking checked to use
Account Specific Network settings... which could of course be part of
the problem. I've un-checked this option, lets see what happens.

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Re[2]: unread messages with complete thread

2000-09-26 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Karin

On 25 September 2000, at 23:45, you wrote

 Good  question  Paul, I've puzzled over that one too - I bet there's a
 key stroke for it.

KS Ctrl-*

Doesn't work for me Karin =:-/

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Re[2]: unread messages with complete thread

2000-09-26 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Havivah

On 26 September 2000, at 22:19, you wrote

HDS Hello Charlie and TBUDL,

HDS Tuesday, September 26, 2000, 14:10:03, Charlie wrote:

HDS snip

KS Ctrl-*

CTc Doesn't work for me Karin =:-/

HDS Try Ctrl + to open an entire thread. (US keyboard)

Aha
Ctrl Shift + opens the thread
Ctrl Shift - closes it

Got there in the end :

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Re[2]: unread messages with complete thread

2000-09-26 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Karin

On 26 September 2000, at 23:41, you wrote

KS On 26-09-2000 at 23:19, Havivah D. Schwartz kindly wrote:
 Tuesday, September 26, 2000, 14:10:03, Charlie wrote:

KS [keystroke to open an entire thread]


KS Ctrl-*

CTc Doesn't work for me Karin =:-/

 Try Ctrl + to open an entire thread. (US keyboard)

KS And wjatever keyboard lay-out you use, don't forget to have
KS your cursor focussed on the message list... (Having it
KS positioned on the folder won't do.)

Also  using  "Ctrl  Shift -" will only collapse the complete thread if
the  highest post in the thread is selected when using this particular
key stroke.

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Re[2]: unread messages with complete thread

2000-09-26 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Marck

On 27 September 2000, at 00:08, you wrote

CTc Aha
CTc Ctrl Shift + opens the thread
CTc Ctrl Shift - closes it

CTc Got there in the end :

MDP ...  And Ctrl-KeyPad* (US/UK keyboard) opens *all* threads in a folder
MDP (that's what Karin was trying to say).

Gotcha! is there no end to the number of keystrokes in TB? :)

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Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-25 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

On 25/09/2000, at 21:17 

  Can  anyone tell me how/if I can position the cursor precisely where
  I want it to appear in the editor window? For example, if I go to my
  address  book  and  select an entry; right click new message - the
  editor  window  opens  with the cursor in the To: header field, why?
  I've  already  selected  the  addressee  from  the address book. To
  be picky I'd like the cursor precisely where I specify it in the
  respective template

  Does  anyone else think an on-line/off-line button for the main tool
  bar  a useful idea. The main reason I ask is I have TB set up to use
  Dial-up  networking | Use an existing connection when available | No
  automatic dial for periodical checking. Trouble is the ISP I use for
  dial-up  has  a  two  hour  cut off, and it can - at busy times - be
  difficult  re-establishing a connection. I have a couple of accounts
  set  to  check  mail boxes every 5 minutes by default, as a result I
  have  TB  trying  to  establish  a connection at the same time as my
  auto-dialer. This is despite my default instructions in TB for no
  automatic dialing(?) Perhaps I'm misunderstanding this part of TB
  and should be using; Local Area Network or manual connection in
  Network properties?
  
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Regex?

2000-09-25 Thread Charlie Turner

On 25/09/2000, at 22:30 

   I  haven't  been  able  to  find  any information in the help files
   regarding  how  I  position  the  cursor  (in a reply) *within* the
   quoted text. As an example, the message I want to reply to contains
   4  paragraphs  and  I want to position the cursor at the end of the
   first   paragraph.   Regex  I  guess  holds  the  answer  any  help
   appreciated, thanks.

Charlie Turner

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Re[2]: unread messages with complete thread

2000-09-25 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Paul

On 25 September 2000, at 22:39, Paul wrote

PF I do prefer to follow the threads but can see I'm going to have to
PF not. It wouldn't be so bad if I could space-bar my way through the
PF unread messages, but I end up having to use a weird combination of
PF tabs, CTRL-]'s, CTRL-+'s and sometimes have to resort to the mouse to
PF ensure I am at the top of the message list.

PF Is there no expand all threads option either?

Good  question  Paul, I've puzzled over that one too - I bet there's a
key stroke for it. For me a right click menu option to expand/collapse
individual threads would be a nice option.

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Re[2]: Cursor postion () Netorking settings

2000-09-25 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hello Tony

On 25 September 2000, at 22:43, Tony wrote

TB This message: 25/09/2000 22:36 GMT.

TB Hello Charlie,


TB   A reminder of what Charlie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
TB   25 September 2000 at 21:53:39 GMT +0100

CTc For example, if I go to my address book and select an entry; right
CTc click new message - the editor window opens with the cursor in the
CTc To: header field, why? I've already selected the addressee from the
CTc address book. To be picky I'd like the cursor precisely where I
CTc specify it in the respective template

TB If you click anywhere in the main window your cursor will appear not
TB where you click but where you specified in the template.

TB Even if it did start it's life at the cursor position specified in the
TB template, you would still need to enter a Subject. So I think a better
TB solution would be for the cursor to be positioned initially in the
TB subject field rather than the start of the address field.
  
Good point Tony, I really was being picky. I was interrupted part way
through that original message and left out the main reason for sending
it. This point was intended as a prelude to asking how I position the
cursor within quoted text in a reply - now asked in a separate
message.

have a good day
   Charlie Turner (ceejay)

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Re[2]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)

2000-09-24 Thread Charlie Turner

On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 4:19:33 AM Ming-Li wrote:

ML On Saturday, September 23, 2000, 3:18:59 PM, Andrzej wrote:

ML While it's a nice feature to have, and probably high on many TB
ML users' wish list, I personally are quite content with TB's editor.
ML For me, the ability to reflow quoted paragraphs while retaining the
ML quotation marks is something I can't live without after switching to
ML TB.

That sounds an excelent feature to me, and one I'd very much like to
see added to my newsreader note to self:send suggestion to MP.
However my newsreader does allow me to highlight the text to be
included in a reply so that when I hit the reply button the only
included text is that which was highlighted. Simply hitting reply
without highlighting includes all the original text. Can This be
acheived in TB?

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Re[2]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)

2000-09-24 Thread Charlie Turner

On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 4:49:41 AM Mark wrote:

MW Hi Andrzej -
MW Saturday, September 23, 2000, 5:18:59 PM, you wrote:

MW I'm intrigued about the plug-in newsreader support; that sounds great!  I am
MW another long-time Agent user, and I would love to see TB! offer plug-in
MW newsreader support in the future.

I've been a Gravity user for several years. Gravity does have an
option to select the registry association for email capability - nice
touch - and needless to say Gravity now fires up TB whenever I want to
send email.

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Re[4]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)

2000-09-24 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 10:25:45 AM - Fred wrote:

   FvV Hello All,
FvV On 24-9-2000 11:01:54, Charlie wrote:

C However my newsreader does allow me to highlight the text to be
C included in a reply so that when I hit the reply button the only
C included text is that which was highlighted. Simply hitting reply
C without highlighting includes all the original text. Can This be
C acheived in TB?

FvV Yes,

FvV Select the text you want to be included and push F4.
FvV It's that easy. (Although your newsreader(Agent?) does it easier)


Nope, I use Gravity Fred. IMO TB and Gravity make an excelent
partnership, two of the best, most useful and powerful programs I own!

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Re[2]: Main Window in Bat!

2000-09-24 Thread Charlie Turner (ceejay)

On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 11:01:05 AM - Krister wrote:

KE that Becky could be turned into a newsreader if so desired. I haven't
KE checked this out as of yet, but i'll do that. Maybe something for the
KE bat folks, to at least offer newsreading capability as a plugin?

That one's not for me Krister, I'd rather TB team concentrate on
developing their email client to even greater heights. I'd guess most
Bat users fit under the heading of decerning power users, as such I
suspect they would have their preferences regarding a similar spec
newsreader. After years of honing my newsreader filters and regex
rules etc. I now have it precisely the way I want it.

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Split pane

2000-09-23 Thread Charlie Turner

sender: Charlie Turner (ceejay)

Hi waves to everyone

New member alert! I've had a good look around but cannot find an
option to switch off the split pave view when composing a reply.
I can see that the split view has its uses, but because I include the
original text in my replies I don't really have a need for it.

I'd welcome any suggestions that would help me make better  use of
the this feature if it can't be switched off.


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