Re: Upgrade advice, please
MAU wrote: > It looks like not many people is watching this list any more. > I am still using Win 10, so I have no idea about Win 11, sorry. > I am using 9.5.1 and I find it very stable. No idea about v10.3.2, I > never upgraded or tried v10. > I asume it will, but I really don't know. I have never used TB's > back-up. Hi Miguel, Thanks very much for answering. I realised fairly soon that this list wasn't very busy, so I sent an email to Ritlabs, and they answered very quickly. In case it helps anyone else, they said: "Newer versions of The Bat! are backwards compatible, this means the latest The Bat! v10 will be able to restore backups created in v4 or any other earlier version of the program. If you have large accounts, then consider creating separate .tbk backups for each account." So I split up my very large accounts into a series of smaller ones, downloaded v10, and the restore function worked perfectly! I've been using v10 for a few days now, and I haven't noticed any problems with it. I'm very happy, because I have a huge number of emails dating back around 20 years, and I can now search and retrieve them very easily on my new W11 machine. -- Regards, Mary -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade advice, please
Hi all, It's been many years since I posted on this list, and I'm hoping you can give me some good advice. I'm currently changing over from my old Win7 computer to a new Win11 desktop. I'm still running TheBat version 4.2.44.2, which I don't suppose will work on Win11. I've never upgraded before, because v.4 did everything I wanted. I use it for my home office. I have two questions now: - which is the most stable recent version you'd advise me to get? - will a back-up made with v.4 work with the new version? If not, is there a workaround? I seem to remember some people have had problems with the back-up in the past, but it's always worked very well for me, and I've changed computer or hard drive several times. I have thousands of messages that I'd like to keep, so the back-up question's important for me. I love TheBat: I've been using it for about 20 years! -- Regards, Mary Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which version should I upgrade to?
RS (FEDARA) wrote: Do they allow usage of v4 if a client have v5 licence? Yes, I e-mailed Ritlabs to ask how I should proceed, and they told me to upgrade to v5 (with a 30% discount), then e-mail them with the serial number and they'll give me a registration key valid for v4.x. -- Regards, Mary -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Offerta all inclusive all'Hotel Magic di Riccione, hotel+spiaggia+parchi dal 9 al 17 luglio Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11576d=20110704 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which version should I upgrade to?
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I'm not really bothered about the html editor - I normally use plain text anyway. MFPA wrote: Not sure if this is relevant to your situation, but 4.0.38 is the newest version you can use with a v3 licence. I have a v1.60h business edition licence, so I'm not sure how I should upgrade. It isn't clear from the website, but I assume I'll have to buy a licence from scratch. I'll try e-mailing them, anyway. Thanks again, -- Mary -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Solo al Family Hotel Cervia, una persona sempre gratis, tutto incluso,con bevande a volonta' tutto il giorno in spiaggia e in hotel,ombrellone e lettini Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11592d=20110703 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Which version should I upgrade to?
Hi all, I'm still using version 1.60h, which I've been very happy with, so I've never bothered upgrading. I've been thinking of upgrading recently because the Scheduler would be very useful, but having read recent posts here and on the Ritlabs forum, it doesn't sound as though an upgrade to version 5 would be a good move. Are there any major problems with v4.2.44 that I should be aware of? Alternatively, I see v4.0.38 and some earlier ones are still availble for download. Any recommendations? Regards, Mary -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Solo al Family Hotel Cervia, una persona sempre gratis, tutto incluso,con bevande a volonta' tutto il giorno in spiaggia e in hotel,ombrellone e lettini Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11589d=20110630 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?
Mark Wieder wrote: What symptoms are you having when the computer won't shut down properly? When I shut down the computer, Windows 2000 goes through the usual procedure, saying it's saving my settings, then that Windows is closing down. Then, instead of closing down normally and giving me the No signal message, it just hangs, on a blackish (teal?) screen with a white cursor flashing at the top left. The only way to shut down is to switch off with the on-off switch, because ALT-CTRL-CANC won't work. However, if I reboot in Safe Mode, it does shut down properly. I don't suppose The Bat is responsible either, but the guy who installed the new hard disc said to try uninstalling and reinstalling everything to see if that fixed the problem. -- Mary -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Scopri RIS il sistema di ricarica infinita. Meglio delle cartucce, meglio degli inchiostri, economico, facile da installare e da utilizzare, solo su refill.it Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5191d=20060925 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?
I recently had to get a new hard drive, and I'm now having problems with it, because Windows 2000 won't shut down properly. The guy who installed the hard drive said something must have gone wrong with one of the programs I installed after he delivered it, and to try uninstalling and reinstalling them. I've done a virus scan with AVG in safe mode, but it didn't find anything. I've uninstalled most of the programs, but I can't work out how to uninstal The Bat. I have version 1.60h, and according to the Help file, I should uninstall it from the Add/Remove programs part of the Windows Control Panel, but it isn't there. When I reinstalled it, I didn't go through Add/Remove programs - I just double-clicked on thebat.exe . Can anyone suggest how I should uninstal it? I could just delete the folder, but I assume that'll leave stuff in the Registry. Regards, Mary -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Refill s.r.l. - Il risparmio รจ fai da te! Inchiostri, cartucce, toner, carta speciale: ogni ricarica per la tua stampante ti costa solo 1 EURO! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5193d=20060923 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I set up an e-mail archive?
I'm sure this is a silly question, but I can't find the answer in the FAQ. I'm still using The Bat 1.60h, and it's got huge - there are something like 50,000 messages divided between 3 different accounts. I realise this isn't ideal - it runs too slowly, and the FAQ says there should be no more than 50 messages in the Inbox, otherwise there's a risk of corruption. I've just had to instal a new hard drive, so I've done a full back-up of The Bat. If I keep just a few of the most recent messages in the Bat program installed on my computer, how can I access the others if I need to refer to them? Mary -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Refill srl il paradiso della tua stampante - cartucce e toner compatibili, inchiostri e accessori per la ricarica, carta speciale. Tutto a prezzi scontatissimi! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5187d=20060913 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: This problem rings a bell, but I cannot remember the details. I think I raised it on this list about a year ago, before I got the router. I am pretty sure that the problem is not with TB! however - I think that the problem will be with your router, possibly with any firewall settings you have in it, or in any software firewall you have. I've recently installed Zone Alarm, but the problem existed even before that. You say that you can send messages with Netscape? Is this the same message and attachment, with the router, using the same provider? I have no problem with the router, only with the modem. I've made some more tests since posting the first message, and the connection is terminated whenever I send any attachment (except a very small one) using the Bat! and the modem, with any provider, including the one I use with the router. If I send the same attachment with the modem using Netscape, I have no trouble at all. IIRC the problem started when I installed Win2000. My provider thinks there must be some kind of restriction in The Bat! which doesn't operate when I use the router. The other thing that causes a sudden disconnection of your internet connection is Blaster, of course, so it could be worth checking. No, the problem started long before Msblast was invented, and anyway my computer's clean and patched. Thanks for the suggestions, anyway. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with sending attachments
I have two e-mail accounts, one of which I normally use, and one in reserve. I'm having to use the reserve one at present because of a problem with the main one, and I'm finding that I can't send large attachments with it using the Bat!, although the two accounts appear to be identically configured in Account - Properties. When I try to send attachments (not even particularly large ones; I just tried with a 325 kb file), the Internet connection automatically terminates after a few seconds. Messages without attachments, or with very small attachments, are sent normally. Compressing the file with Winzip doesn't help. The problem doesn't lie with the reserve provider, because I can send attachments with the Netscape e-mail program. I use a router with the main provider, and an external modem with the reserve one. Any idea where the problem could be with The Bat? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mass mailing with BCC
I want to send a message to all my clients with my holiday dates. I've set up two groups, so I can send the message in two different languages to various clients. However, I want all the addresses to appear in the BCC field so that the clients don't see each other's addresses. I can't find a way to do this automatically, even using macros; any suggestions? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing with BCC
Jonathan Angliss wrote: Well, you have half the steps done by the looks of it. You created them as groups, which will probably save you a fair bit of time. Start a new message, make sure the bcc field is visible. If it is not, go to View, and check the BCC option. You now should have two choices from this point. If you right click in the BCC field, and address menu will drop down, you should see your groups at the bottom, move your mouse over the group, and it should expand, notice the top option should be Listname entire list. The other option is to click the little address card icon on the end of the line, from the drop list in the top right, select the group, and press the icon, and click okay. Now write your message :) Now why didn't I think of that? I was trying to do it with a Quick Template. Actually I spent ages looking in the Help and the FAQ, and didn't find that simple solution. Thanks a million! -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation
Karin Spaink wrote: I tried both Mozilla and NS4.7. Neither work, alas. It works OK with Netscape 4.79, but only if you enable cookies. It took me ages to work that out. It's still pretty slow compared with html, though. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: free decent virus checker that works with TB?
Jernej Simoni wrote: SJ You have to exit the dos window manually. Does anyone SJ know how to do that in the bat file? The simplest way is to put CLS at the very end of file. Surely that just clears the DOS screen without exiting the DOS window? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Okay. It is a drop target. You have to save your attachment and drop it onto a shortcut to the fentun program. Then a window opens showing you the names of any attachments within the message.att file and you get the opportunity to extract them. I have a shortcut to fentun in a desktop folder. The shortcut specifies Start in the same folder. I save my attachment to that folder, open the folder, drag the file onto fentun, extract the files and they are saved back into the same folder again, ready to use. Wow, that's really, really convenient! Wish list - 1. Please can the next version of TB treat attachments just like normal mailreaders do? 2. Please can somebody rewrite the help file so that it's actually helpful? 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive text editor? Otherwise, I really like it :-) -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Wish list (was: Microsoft attachment)
Jernej Simoni wrote: MC 1. Please can the next version of TB treat attachments just like MC normal mailreaders do? It already does that - normal mail readers don't support MS's proprietary format. I don't have wide experience of other mailreaders, just Netscape and Eudora, and I've never had these strange .att and .msg attachments before. I can open the .msg ones, but not the .att's, as other people have said. Today I received a message (not html) with a message.msg attached. When I opened it by double-clicking, I could read the message OK, and on another tab there was a tiny jpg image. When I maximised the window the image was enlarged, but when I opened the message a second time it didn't enlarge, and I had to click back and forth between the two tabs before it would enlarge. MC 3. Please could somebody do something about TB's incredibly primitive MC text editor? Outlook has a primitive editor. The Bat's editor is perfect for e-mail (do a search in the archives for the word editor). I've never used Outlook, and I'm getting used to TB's editor, but I still find it primitive. I didn't mean that I want an html editor; I prefer text because of the virus risk. What I meant was that with Netscape and Eudora, for example, if you write a message and then add bits to it, as most people do, the wrapping automatically puts itself right; you don't have to mess about with ALT-L or wade through the menus looking for formatting options. I've given up using autoformat (or was it justify on wrap?), because it deletes the paragraph marks, and it's too much trouble to hit enter twice at the end of each paragraph. It may sound like no big deal, but when you spend all day typing in programs that wrap automatically, it just doesn't come naturally. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Alastair Scott wrote: Last shot :) Is it only one particular file in Word 2000 format that's causing the stoppage, or can you repeat the problem with different files? No, unfortunately I've had the same problem with various different files, all in Word2000. They're mostly files I've received from clients and translated; Word2000 doesn't tell me if the file arrives from the client in Word98 format or Word2000, it just says Word doc. When I save the file, I assume it's automatically saved in Word2000. It only tells me the format if it's earlier than Word98, such as 6.0/95. I've just tried sending a file which is definitely in Word98, because I haven't worked on it since getting Word2000, and the send failed as usual. I then converted it into Word 6.0/95, and it sent OK. The only workaround at present is to zip all attachments, but not all my clients have (or want to get) Winzip. I'm really wasting too much time on this problem, but I should be sorry to stop using TB; I was impressed with how easily it imported my old messages from Netscape (except for some which were in an .sbd folder; it wouldn't fetch those), and I like a lot of its features. I'd certainly be reluctant to go back to my old Netscape 4.51, which is prehistoric by comparison, and I hear Netscape 6.0 isn't very stable. Does nobody have any more suggestions? Pegasus? :-) -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Mary Cassidy wrote: Does nobody have any more suggestions? Problem solved! (I think; so far it works, anyway.) I just read the message from Ian G quoted by David Stone in the thread Cannot read some messages in a folder, which finally put me on the right track. Ian G said: What's unusual is IG that I'm running a dual boot system (98SE and Win2000) and the problem only occurs G under 98. I'll reinstall IE under 98, but do you have any idea which dll might be responsible? I also have a dual boot system, Win98 and Win2000. I have TB installed in the Win2000 partition, but I've been saving all my files in the Win98 partition because I hadn't decided whether to buy Win2000, and I didn't want to lose them when I uninstalled the evalaution copy I've been lent. I've just tried sending a file saved in the Win2000 partition and - it works! Thank goodness for that. I don't suppose all that many people send files from a different partition, but even so, Netscape and Eudora allow me to do it with no trouble. I've tried setting the Account Properties to save attachments in a separate new file in the Win2000 partition (couldn't find the default attachment file), but it doesn't work (the attachment is definitely in that file, I checked). The problem seems to be that the files originate from the other partition, so I'm going to have to save them on both partitions if I don't want to lose them when I uninstal. Bug? Anyway, it's a temporary problem; before I register TB I'll have decided whether or not to buy Win2000. Thanks to all who offered help and advice; although I eventually found the solution myself, I would never have thought of the answer if I hadn't been subscribed to this group. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Andrew Aronoff wrote: Mary -- Are you logging on to Windows 2000 with Administrator rights? Yes. Alastair -- Many mail systems now refuse executable file attachments and many users are very wary of opening executable attachments that they have not already been advised to expect. Yes, it sounded like a good idea, but you're right, of course. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Mary Cassidy wrote: Problem solved! (I think; so far it works, anyway.) S**t! Spoke too soon... The file I sent successfully from the Win2000 partition had always been in that partition. Just now, I had to send a file that was in the Win98 partition. I copied it to the Win2000 partition, but the send aborted as usual. I tried MIME and UU encoding, but it made no difference. In the end I had to zip it. In future I'll save my files in Win2000 first, then copy them to Win98. But why on earth is TB doing this? -- Regards, Mary Cassidy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Dierk Haasis wrote: Since I use more than one partition and have never been having problems sending attachments (also using Winword2K), but all on Win95c, I try to venture into saying that the problem lies with some rights or formatting. Maybe your W2K partition is in NTFS? Or one of your partition uses Doubledisk ( or whatever the name today is)? No idea - my supplier set up the partitions. Where do I look? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Mary Cassidy wrote: Dierk Haasis wrote: Maybe your W2K partition is in NTFS? Or one of your partition uses Doubledisk ( or whatever the name today is)? No idea - my supplier set up the partitions. Where do I look? I should have thought of searching Explorer before. I have 4 files in F:WINNT/System 32: chkntfs.exe dfrgntfs.exe untfs.dll ntfs.sys Nothing found under Doubledisk. The computer I'm using now is going to be in a network with my old one when my supplier has replaced the hard disk on the old one, which gave up the ghost. In the systray, there's a red cross on what I assume is the network icon. Could the missing computer in the network be causing problems? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: List problems?
Jernej Simoni wrote: I noticed in the last couple of days that some messages don't come in the order they were sent - the differences are up to an hour: for example the thread Problem with sending attachments, last 3 replies: From MsgID Received Created Mary Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18:53 17:18 Dierk Hasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- 21:48 19:31 --- Mary Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20:42 20:33 Mary Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20:53 20:49 That's odd; I received them all in the right order. I checked the clock on my computer, which is OK (GMT+1). I received Dierk's message at 20.28, and replied to it at 20.33. Maybe a problem with your ISP? -- Regards, Mary Cassidy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Nils Haag (m. l.) ha scritto: Hello Mary, hi list, On Wednesday, January 16, 2002 'Mary Cassidy' wrote: I have no problem sending messages without attachments or with small attachments, but when the attachment is larger (not even very large, say around 70 Kb) the call sometimes gets cut off about halfway through sending. The log file just says SEND - connection finished - 0 of 1 messages sent. I thought there must be a maximum attachment size setting somewhere, but I haven't found it; anyway, I've tried to replicate the problem with a 1Mb file and I managed to send it with no trouble. There is no way to set it up anywhere in TB! And I have never had such a problem although sending mails with 5 MB I would think it is either a problem with your connection or with your email-provider. As you wrote it cannot be the last one (or both have the some limits). How are you connected to the internet? Dial-up connection, set to manual dial-up. I never had this problem with Netscape or Eudora, so I thought I must have set something wrong in TB. I've set it to put the attachments in the message body, not in a separate file; could that be the problem? -- Regards, Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Mary Cassidy ha scritto: How are you connected to the internet? Dial-up connection, set to manual dial-up. I never had this problem with Netscape or Eudora, so I thought I must have set something wrong in TB. I've set it to put the attachments in the message body, not in a separate file; could that be the problem? The same thing just happened again, sending a message with 2 fairly small attachments. The first 2 times I tried, the line was cut off (log message connection finished - 0 of 1 messages sent), but the third time the message was sent properly. I spoke to my ISP immediately afterwards, and he says it must be a problem with the program which is sending a command to shut down the connection. Any more ideas before I give up and go back to Netscape? :-) -- Regards, Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Thomas F wrote: Hello Mary, On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:17:02 +0100 GMT (17/01/02, 17:17 +0800 GMT), Mary Cassidy wrote: I've set it to put the attachments in the message body, not in a separate file; could that be the problem? No; I have the same setting. MC I spoke to my ISP immediately afterwards, and he says it must be a MC problem with the program which is sending a command to shut down the MC connection. Do you think they would send you the log of such a session? I asked, but IIRC he said it depends on the router, which he can't look at. I know nothing about these things - does that sound plausible? MC Any more ideas before I give up and go back to Netscape? :-) What does the log in TB say? (Account / View log. Copy and paste into your reply here.) This morning's have already vanished from the log (I left the original setting of 20 Kb, which is evidently a bit small), but I tried sending another attachment just now, and the same thing happened again. The attachment was about 500,000 bytes. Here's the log: *17/01/2002, 17.27.49: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue +17/01/2002, 17.27.50: SEND - connected to SMTP server *17/01/2002, 17.27.59: SEND - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +17/01/2002, 17.28.17: SEND - connection finished - 0 of 1 messages sent ?17/01/2002, 17.28.17: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details I tried again immediately afterwards, same attachment, different account with different ISP, and got exactly the same log. So if it happens with two ISPs, and has never happened with Netscape or Eudora, the only thing left seems to be a wrong setting of mine in TB or some kind of conflict. Operating system: Win2000 with Office2000. The attachments were Word documents. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Mary Cassidy wrote: So if it happens with two ISPs, and has never happened with Netscape or Eudora, the only thing left seems to be a wrong setting of mine in TB or some kind of conflict. Operating system: Win2000 with Office2000. The attachments were Word documents. Just a thought, in case it helps: I'm using an ISDN Twinbox modem with the initialization string B26\N10%P1. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Thomas F wrote: Go to Account / Properteis / FilesDirectories. Have you activated [x] Bind attachments only when... ? I have. No (didn't know what it meant and didn't find it in the Help). Anyway it didn't work; usual error message. I think you are sending the mail with attachment immediately. If you put the message in the Outbox instead, and then send it by hitting F2, does the problem still persist? Yes, I just tried it. I got a slightly different, but still unhelpful error message in the log: +17/01/2002, 19.31.45: SEND - connected to SMTP server *17/01/2002, 19.31.56: SEND - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] !17/01/2002, 19.32.14: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: +17/01/2002, 19.32.14: SEND - connection finished - 0 of 1 messages sent ?17/01/2002, 19.32.14: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Mary Cassidy wrote: Anyway it didn't work; usual error message. I just tried an entirely different tack; I saved the document in Word 6.0/95 and guess what? it worked. But why? I've only recently started using Win2000 with Office2000 (my supplier's lent me a copy to evaluate it because I was doubtful about upgrading from Office98). But surely lots of other people must be using TB with Office2000 and managing to send attachments? Any brilliant ideas (other than XP, which I don't really fancy just yet)? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Andrew Aronoff wrote: Hello Mary, MC Any more ideas before I give up and go back to Netscape? :-) Before you jump back, I have a couple of suggestions: 1. Set to store the attachments in a separate folder and see what happens. Just tried it, no luck, usual message in the log. If that doesn't help, 2. Double-check your settings for SMTP server name in Netscape and in TB! -- make sure they're identical. Netscape: Edit, Preferences..., Mail Newsgroups, Mail Servers, Outgoing mail (SMTP) server: -- note the name Don't change them, but take a look: Is Outgoing mail server user name: a blank? Yes Is User Secure Socket Layer(SSL) or TLS for outgoing messages set to Never? Yes Then, back in TB!: Account, Properties..., Transport, SMTP Server -- this should be the same as the Netscape SMTP server name It is. Press the Authentication... button in this windows. Both checkboxes Peform SMTP Authentication and Use 'POP before SMTP' authentication should be UNchecked. They already were. One thing I'm not sure about; in Account - Properties - Transport, 8-bit characters are treated without changes is checked. Is this correct? That was the original setting, and I have no idea whether I should change it. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Problem with sending attachments
Alastair Scott wrote: Aha, an idea :) Go to the 'Account' menu, select the 'Properties ...' item, then select the 'Files Directories' item in the left-hand pane then look at the drop-down box entitled 'By default encode attachments using'. Change the setting there to the opposite of what it's currently set to (there are two settings, 'MIME Base 64' and 'UU Encoding'). Then try sending the file you were originally trying to send (in Word 2000 format). Does it work this time? I was convinced that must be it, but no, it doesn't work either. TB was set to Base 64; Eudora was set to MIME, and Netscape to the non-MIME option, something like send as is (I have the Italian version, so I don't know the exact English name). I changed TB to UUE, but it made no difference. Then I tried zipping the file, and again it worked, so the file format must have something to do with it. Any more ideas? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filters -- alphabetizing folders
Jernej Simoni wrote: E How do I alphabetize the folders created to accommodate the filters? Click on the [Name] column header. You'll get a message saying This will change the order of folders. Do you want to process?. Click OK. There's one minor bug (or is it a feature?) with this function; if one of the folders has unread messages in it, it stays at the bottom of the list, while all the other folders are alphabetised. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Problem with sending attachments
I've been using the Bat! for a couple of days, and this is the first problem I've come across. I have no problem sending messages without attachments or with small attachments, but when the attachment is larger (not even very large, say around 70 Kb) the call sometimes gets cut off about halfway through sending. The log file just says SEND - connection finished - 0 of 1 messages sent. I don't think it can be a problem with my ISP, because the same thing happens with two different accounts. I thought there must be a maximum attachment size setting somewhere, but I haven't found it; anyway, I've tried to replicate the problem with a 1Mb file and I managed to send it with no trouble. All suggestions welcome, -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bat! 1.53t Anomalies
Andrew Aronoff wrote: Hi, Thomas. 1. Nicked nicknames TF Options / Preferences / System / Autocomplete. Yes, I've checked that and chosen Default address book only. Nicknames work most of the time, but not all of the time, even with Ctrl+. As I said, I haven't yet spotted what needs to happen for a nickname to work the first time, every time. I was hoping another user might have discovered this. If you never, ever have any problems with nicknames on your system, then I need to remove this item from the list. So far I've had no trouble with this feature, but one thing seems odd: if a nickname is associated with more than one e-mail address, TB doesn't tell me, but just displays the first one. I can obviously use CTRL+ to go to the other ones, but if I don't remember that there's more than one address I'm liable to use the first one displayed without checking. Am I missing something, or should this go on the wish list? -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bat! 1.53t Anomalies
Andrew Aronoff ha scritto: Hello Mary, MC if a nickname is associated with more than one e-mail address, TB MC doesn't tell me, but just displays the first one. In principle, nicknames are supposed to be _unique_. Sorry, I sent the message too quickly. I meant *name, not nickname. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Threaded messages
Costas ha scritto: CP Press the Ctrl-Shift-Delete keys, without having to open the thread CP (+) sign. Alternatively, right-click on the (+) sign and hit delete in the drop-down menu. -- Mary (Bat user since yesterday!) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
