Re: Licence unhappiness?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mica Mijatovic wrote: | I stick with v2.12 which works (still enough) fine (for me). I returned to Thunderbird (too many problems with nightly builds my fault for experimenting) and now have settled on Mozilla Suite while the dust settles. They too are old friends. | On the other side, I find that TB community, gathered in TB | lists, is just a fine crowd of rogues ~ snip | if I'd have to choose between them and the company itself, with | no a blink of my handsome eye I'll chose the gang. This is exactly the reason why I never unsubscribed from tbot and unsubscribed from tbudl and tbbeta only temporarily. The community is TheBat! and the continuity. Anything else is merely software. | If the crowd ever move somewhere, let me know for I am willing to | go with them. (-: Me too. I'll keep my bags packed :-) - -- Regards, ~ Plan9 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Experience is the comb that Nature gives us when we are bald. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBO7rJoTUgrKvCEfsRAnwDAJ44IH/fPumleiot4uBd2DocbfxdXQCeP08E g3p9KphHAKzCTbtiwG3erW8= =8wAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDIF errors
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 11:33:16 PM, Chris wrote: Chris I went to Chris http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotnet/tools/Base64Decode/Default.aspx Chris and entered the gibberish and it decoded into readable text. Chris Therefore, The Bat! is encoding those addresses in base64 for some Chris reason. Chris, thanks for this hint. I started thinking that the only reason for a Base64Encode was a strange character in the street address. The three addresses that produced the encoding in the LDIF file all had a carriage return and linefeed in them or a newline (not sure which). The two shorter ones at the end of the street address and the longer one in the middle. So it seems that TheBat! LDIF files use Base64Encode when a non-alphanumeric is in the data. FireFox can import and decode the Base64Encode. But when Firefox exports the file again as LDIF it does it as two lines, homePostalAddress: and mozillaHomePostalAddress2: instead of Base64Encode. All along I assumed LDIF was simple and equal across systems and applications. Boy was I wrong! It can be converted but its full of ifs, buts, whatevers, and quirks. :-( :-) Like tragic and comedy theatre masks. -- Regards, Plan9 It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDIF errors
Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 8:18:36 AM, Plan9 wrote: Plan9 Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 11:33:16 PM, Chris wrote: Chris I went to Chris http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotnet/tools/Base64Decode/Default.aspx Chris and entered the gibberish and it decoded into readable text. Chris Therefore, The Bat! is encoding those addresses in base64 for some Chris reason. Plan9 Chris, thanks for this hint. I started thinking that the only reason Plan9 for a Base64Encode was a strange character in the street address. The Plan9 three addresses that produced the encoding in the LDIF file all had a Plan9 carriage return and linefeed in them or a newline (not sure which). Plan9 The two shorter ones at the end of the street address and the longer Plan9 one in the middle. Plan9 So it seems that TheBat! LDIF files use Base64Encode when a Plan9 non-alphanumeric is in the data. FireFox can import and decode the Plan9 Base64Encode. But when Firefox exports the file again as LDIF it does Plan9 it as two lines, homePostalAddress: and mozillaHomePostalAddress2: Plan9 instead of Base64Encode. Plan9 All along I assumed LDIF was simple and equal across systems and Plan9 applications. Boy was I wrong! It can be converted but its full of Plan9 ifs, buts, whatevers, and quirks. :-( :-) Like tragic and comedy Plan9 theatre masks. Substitute Thunderbird for Firefox. Brain slippage. :-) -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
LDIF errors
I have been using LDIF export from the address book as a backup mechanism and to transfer info to other programs. Tonight I looked very closely at the LDIF file after I began to get strange results in a reporting program. Out of 135 entries 3 had gibberish for the street address (homePostalAddress) in the LDIF file. The 3 homePostalAddress lines looked like this: homePostalAddress:: NjgyNSBIaWxscyBEci4NCg== homePostalAddress:: MVM2ODYgR3JlZW5icmlhciBEci4NCg== homePostalAddress:: MTU5IEluZGlhIFN0cmVldCwgIEFwdCAzTCANCkJyb29rbHluLCBOWSAgMTEyMjItMTcxOA== They should look like: homePostalAddress: 1234 Any Street Can anyone confirm that LDIF export from TheBat! is corrupt? The unusual thing is the addresses are correct in the address book properties window (the Edit Address Entry window) and the exported VCF contains correct information. Just the LDIF file is corrupt. -- Regards, Plan9 A hamburger walks into a bar, and the bartender says, I'm sorry, but we don't serve food here. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDIF errors
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 10:43:02 PM, Chris wrote: The 3 homePostalAddress lines looked like this: homePostalAddress:: NjgyNSBIaWxscyBEci4NCg== homePostalAddress:: MVM2ODYgR3JlZW5icmlhciBEci4NCg== homePostalAddress:: MTU5IEluZGlhIFN0cmVldCwgIEFwdCAzTCANCkJyb29rbHluLCBOWSAgMTEyMjItMTcxOA== They should look like: homePostalAddress: 1234 Any Street Can anyone confirm that LDIF export from TheBat! is corrupt? Chris I only get this for any templates I have in the address book. Chris Perhaps this is some form of encoding. Does the LDIF file import Chris properly? This gets stranger. There are no templates associated with the addresses in question and they do import correctly back into TheBat! and the homePostalAddress line even imports correctly into Firefox (although other lines do not because of differences in naming conventions). When the newly imported addresses are then LDIF exported from Firefox they export as plain text addresses e.g. 1234 Any Street and not as gibberish. I'm at a loss understanding what is going on. -- Regards, Plan9 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Friday, August 20, 2004, 6:31:30 PM, Peter wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book P window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is P off by a day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to P add a Birthday column to see it. Peter Located at GMT +1, it displays fine here. Peter I can reproduce it though after: Peter - closing TB Peter - changing the PC timezone to GMT -n Peter - starting TB Peter Care to add a bugtracker entry? I've never used bugtracker, but I'll give it a try. -- Regards, Plan9 It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Birthday display error (Was Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?)
Friday, August 20, 2004, 7:22:24 PM, Plan9 wrote: Peter Care to add a bugtracker entry? Plan9 I've never used bugtracker, but I'll give it a try. Just submitted a BT Report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003427 -- Regards, Plan9 I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 6:20:38 AM, Paul wrote: Paul now you are starting to get into PIM territory. You can't add a Paul birthday/anniversary/divorce date to memo ?? I add all my notes about Paul people to the Memo field.. BUT I agree, reports would be nice. Without some way to easily use and share all of the information stored in the Address Book it becomes a black hole database, everything goes in and nothing (well, very little) comes out. On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a Birthday column to see it. -- Regards, Plan9 It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:23:31 PM, Jurgen wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Here it's the correct date that's shown. Jurgen here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g Nice try. :-D But it's definitely off by a day. Could it have something to location; GMT + or -? -- Regards, Plan9 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:00:55 PM, Roelof wrote: Roelof Hallo Plan9, Roelof On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I Roelof live), you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Roelof Here it's the correct date that's shown. Just to make sure everyone is looking at the same thing I've put two jpg images on my website. The properties screen where the birthday is entered. http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/properties.jpg The Address Book screen that list all of the addresses. http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/add_book.jpg -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:27:35 PM, Maggie wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Maggie Could that be a feature? Is it the day before? If so, that would Maggie make sense. Give you a warning? I don't think so or Roelof and Jurgen would also be seeing a day early birthday listing. Seems like an East/West side of the Pond/GMT phenomenon. People on this side see the discrepancy (I think Perry is here too), people on the other side do not. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book - How to get customized reports?
TheBat! Address Book can contain a wealth of information that is available on a single person/entity at a time. But is there a way to get various reports/printouts of everyone in the Address Book such as: Names and birthdays Names and addresses Names, addresses and phone numbers Names, addresses and pictures All the above restricted to favorite etc. Exporting the Address Book and manipulating the result in another application seems like a lot of work for something that should be easily available from within TheBat! -- Regards, Plan9 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 5:55:49 PM, Plan9 wrote: Plan9 TheBat! Address Book can contain a wealth of information that is Plan9 available on a single person/entity at a time. But is there a way to Plan9 get various reports/printouts... As an additional note I have tried the following formats: Memo Business card Telephone list Address list and they are nice as far as they go, but stop a little short of providing the flexibility that I would like. For example none permit adding birthdays as far as I can tell and none provide any filtering, although you can pick and choose entries from the address list (with CNTRL-LEFTCLICK) to be included in the printed output. -- Regards, Plan9 On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tools, Restore
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 1:55:04 PM, Maurice wrote: PO This depends on settings you made on the first page of the backup PO window. Is 'Address Books' checked? Are address books selected (use the PO 'Choose...' button). Maurice Like a fool, I've been accepting the default settings and never Maurice bothered to look beyond Trusted Root CA (though why anyone would Maurice want to have this as a default, is beyond me...). Mystery solved: I Maurice did not check the individual Address Books on the next page. Maurice Am I the only fool out there? Nope. After I read Peter's reply I checked my backup settings. And guess what? I quickly changed the default address book and performed another backup. Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup tool? -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tools, Restore
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 7:35:40 PM, Chris wrote: Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup tool? Chris I changed mine a while ago and the proper address books are still Chris checked. You are correct. Seems to have taken a restart of TheBat! for my new selection to be visible as the default. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?
Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:12:59 PM, Martin wrote: Martin Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I Martin wouldn't have thought that was a security breach. I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from brick the name of my computer and then my IP. What if I had named my computer big and happened to be a little or a lot risque not expecting my computer name to be inserted into a mail message. :-D -- Regards, Plan9 He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?
Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:22:29 PM, Plan9 wrote: Plan9 Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:12:59 PM, Martin wrote: Martin Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I Martin wouldn't have thought that was a security breach. Plan9 I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the Plan9 headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from brick the Plan9 name of my computer and then my IP. What if I had named my computer Plan9 big and happened to be a little or a lot risque not Plan9 expecting my computer name to be inserted into a mail message. :-D Sorry about that. Martin's message was in TBOT. I replied and it went to TBUDL. :-( -- Regards, Plan9 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 9:02:58 PM, Allie wrote: Allie The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that Allie TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated. I notice that Gerard is using X-Ray. Could it be eating the In-Reply_to: header? -- Regards, Plan9 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 10:11:49 PM, Michael wrote: JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, JBL particularly once you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess JBL of this. Michael I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then Michael stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the Michael macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being Michael too long. oh well. Wow, Michael! Take a deep breath and relax. If I had this same attitude with my car then I'd zip through neighborhoods with my foot to the floor winding out the old BMW for all it's worth. After all if I can't use all the horses under the hood/bonnet why were they put there in the first place? But I do not. Know why? I have respect for others, their pursuit of life and happiness, and their environment. I think you do too and may have regretted this note as soon as you sent it. Want to experiment, send notes to yourself or to me. -- Regards, Plan9 A hamburger walks into a bar, and the bartender says, I'm sorry, but we don't serve food here. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:59:50 PM, malexander wrote: malexander And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First malexander Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting malexander spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of malexander the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted malexander before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly malexander any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked malexander deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more malexander effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using malexander the Bat. Bellsouth is my ISP and I use their mail servers and their MailGard option. So far it has caught almost all of the spam that shows up in my mailbox. Maybe one a day gets through. Out of 350 spam messages in three days only one made it to TheBat!, knock on wood (as he raps himself beside the head with his knuckles). The rest were dealt with on the server by MailGard where I have the option of viewing them to make sure none were really ham or letting the process delete them automatically. I have no idea what MailGard is, but it works. I tried BayesFilters and BayesIt out of curiosity for a while, but they were much more work and no better than the filter provided by Bellsouth. -- Regards, Plan9 Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ. The second string says: Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some smileys don't appear
Monday, August 2, 2004, 6:08:23 PM, Robin wrote: Robin Does anyone else see the ascii handle instead of the smiley here :-) or Robin here :) ? Appears as ascii text here too. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mail dispatcher fails
Friday, July 30, 2004, 8:17:50 AM, A.Translator wrote: A.Trans There ís a message, I think. When connecting to the A.Trans server, one of the accounts shows 1/1 , but no message is A.Trans retrieved. That is the reason I wanted to open the message A.Trans dispatcher. Send a message to that account so there is at least one new message and try again. -- Regards, Plan9 Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/MIME
Thursday, July 29, 2004, 6:20:12 AM, Robert wrote: P This message produces a bad signature. Robert So, this is because of the Cyrillic characters in the date. And what Robert is the regex to automatically use the English date instead of Robert Ukrainian? (This one should have bad sig also, I assume...) No. This message has a good signature. -- Regards, Plan9 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mail dispatcher fails
Thursday, July 29, 2004, 12:07:15 PM, Roelof wrote: Roelof I'm not sure about what is supposed to happen, since I never used the Roelof dispatcher. Roelof But when I press CtrlShiftF2 (not F12) The dispatcher and the Roelof CC are opened and they don't close before I kill them. I'm using the Roelof 2.12.03 beta, but that shouldn't matter. I too am using 2.12.03 and POP3. If I have messages on the server the CC stays open for me to deal with them, but if there are no messages then it opens and immediately closes. -- Regards, Plan9 On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/MIME
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 7:29:09 AM, Robert wrote: ASK What is your problem with it? Robert When I get such a message, I press the encryption button in the right Robert corner and get the dialog box asking me to enter the passphrase. I do Robert and get something like this: Robert gpg: can't open `C:\Program Files\The Bat!\batD3F2.tmp' Robert gpg: decrypt_message failed: file open error Robert If I switch to PGP 8.1, pressing the button does nothing at all. Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it says that your key has a bad signature. -- Regards, Plan9 On the seventh day He brewed beer pgpPUOHzUxEbP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP and sig delimiter
I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space to --=20. I think I know why - to preserve the space -, but who changed the space to =20? TheBat! or PGP? -- Regards, Plan9 Black holes are where God divided by zero Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/MIME
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 10:17:07 AM, Robert wrote: Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Robert Hash: SHA1 Robert On 28 eeiiy 2004 ?., 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote: P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it P says that your key has a bad signature. Robert You are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I Robert type this message, I have the date in the first line spelled in Robert Ukrainian. So, I will try to sign it and send. Then I will do the Robert same, but will change the date into English. Let's see... This message produces a bad signature. -- Regards, Plan9 Black holes are where God divided by zero Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/MIME
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 10:17:47 AM, Robert wrote: Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Robert Hash: SHA1 Robert On July 28, 2004, 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote: P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it P says that your key has a bad signature. Robert You are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I Robert type this message, I have the date in the first line spelled in Robert Ukrainian. So, I will try to sign it and send. Then I will do the Robert same, but will change the date into English. Let's see... This message produces a good signature. -- Regards, Plan9 I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP and sig delimiter
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 3:15:07 PM, Paul wrote: P I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and P noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space P to --=20. Paul does everyone else who signs theres show the same thing in your source Paul view?? Yes. Just pick one of the signed messages in tbudl and look at the source. -- Regards, Plan9 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG Anti Virus plug in not working?
Saturday, July 17, 2004, 2:38:39 PM, Paul wrote: W I had put AVG free version on a friend's computer that was having W virus problems. (Norton wasnt finding anything.) It found a W key-capture trojan, but could not remove it. I convinced her to buy W AVG 7. It removed the trojan and several copies of some other nasty W little critters than neither Norton nor AVG 6 found. Pattern files W for both were up to date. W IMO, pay the pieces of eight and get AVG 7. PC so, they are leaving us vulnerable and they know it?? so the free PC version is less worthwhile, or worthless, since it doesn't catch PC everything they know about. I guess it is time to switch! Not yet Paul.. I too use the free version of AVG and I'm not ready to switch just yet. Arjan de Groot sums up my feelings exactly in: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] when he says: Another unsubstantiated claim. I want facts, not hearsay. So, can you tell me the names of those nasty critters? -- Regards, Plan9 A hamburger walks into a bar, and the bartender says, I'm sorry, but we don't serve food here. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What group to ask TheBat internal questions?
Which group (tbudl, tbbeta, tbdev, tbdev, tbot) is the appropriate group to ask the following type of question. Does TheBat! on startup build a dynamic table and store rogue handles from rogues.msl for the current session so they cannot be use for other purposes? If this group is OK then what is the answer? -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys and Rogues
Friday, July 16, 2004, 6:23:59 PM, Roelof wrote: RO Let's take the instructions Leif posted to tbot half an hour ago: RO Let's start with a clean installation of smileys. RO 1. Delete *everything* in the IMAGES folder *except* Default.MSL and ROthe folder named DEFAULT. snip Good set of instructions. But if someone upgrades to 2.12.00 by merely extracting the thebat.exe file from the installation file (as a few people have suggested) instead of letting TB! run through a normal installation, then they will not have an images\default folder or a default.msl file. This may be part of the confusion for some. As far as I know these are new for 2.12.00. I just did an experiment and C-S-A-t will not rebuild them if they are missing. But they can be extracted from the installation file the_bat2.12.00.exe if need be. -- Regards, Plan9 On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spaces After Periods
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 11:24:37 AM, Joseph wrote: JN On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:39:23 GMT, wrote: This however looks ugly in the days of proportional fonts. Thus one space is recommended in that situation. JN Some people differ on those conclusions. While I'm all in favor JN of attractive type, the two-spaces-after-a-period approach has JN more than just formality on its side. Type is easier to read JN quickly, and it's easier to read aloud if necessary, when JN sentences are subtly separated by that extra space. In any event, JN however, since in nearly all settings the two-space rule remains JN in effect, TB!'s spacing looks odd to recipients and is impossible JN to cut and paste without modifications. I too like to see two spaces after a period ends a sentence for the reasons stated above. I suspect that the conversion from two spaces to one occurs when text editors with too little decision intelligence programmed into them try to be word processors. It's much easier to format to one space after any punctuation that build in a decision tree or intelligence to pick out a sentence. A better solution would be for the editor (MicroEd in the case of TheBat!) to have a preference switch that states Convert two spaces after punctuation to one when reformatting? Then one could turn this practice on or off. -- Regards, Plan9 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which version of PGP to use.
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 2:03:35 PM, Zonnet wrote: Z I would like to hear from other TB user which version currently works best Z with TB and if there are any pitfalls to look out for. I used PGP 7.0.3 up until a few days ago and now use 8.0.3. Both free versions and both worked flawlessly. If you decide to use 8.0.3 Free version just un-check all the additional pieces it wants to load (email plugins, etc.) and load the basic software. TheBat! already has built in support for PGP. See http://www.mccune.cc/PGPpage2.htm for a pretty good QA on PGP in general. -- Regards, Plan9 Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ. The second string says: Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which version of PGP to use.
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 3:31:07 PM, Zonnet wrote: Z Thanks that was helpful. I installed the, what I believed to be the free Z PGP version, and am now tinkering with it. Z Do you have to click later every time you start it up at the key entry? No. I only clicked on it once and have not seen it since. In my previous post I failed to point you to https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/ss/pgp8fw/pgp8fw.htm which is a very good installation tutorial for version 8. You may want to visit it to see if this is the way you installed PGP. If you installed any of the optional components it may bring up the license screen where I think you are seeing the Later Manual Purchase Now. I chose to not install any option components. -- Regards, Plan9 Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ. The second string says: Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Monday, July 12, 2004, 11:03:30 PM, Mary wrote: MB Hmm. I've been joking about the time machine :timemachine: but I MB wonder. Could our mails be lost in here: :tm: A job is never finished until the paperwork is done. :-D -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ. The second string says: Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: RO The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour RO later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is RO that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me. For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is concerned. I have been getting duplicates and triplicates of emails. Some as close as an hour apart and others several hours later. I just chalked it up as Bellsouth (my ISP and mail server) having a bad-hair day. But the problem may be more wide spread. Anyone else having problems. I don't think it is TB! -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 7:03:01 AM, HELDON wrote: H Problem is that i need The Bat! working in following order: H When first mail is received i need that mail to be deleted from H mailserver immediately, and when its done, only then to start downloading second H mail. When second mail is received i need delete it from mailserver H immediately too, and only then start download mail Nr.3, and so on.. I did a quick experiment and this seems to be the order that TheBat retrieves and deletes messages for me on a POP account. C: RETR 1 S: +OK octets Message C: RETR 2 S: +OK octets Message C: DELE 1 S: +OK C: RETR 3 S: +OK octets Message C: DELE 2 S: +OK C: RETR 4 S: +OK octets Message C: DELE 3 S: +OK C: RETR 5 S: +OK octets Message C: DELE 4 S: +OK C: RETR 6 S: +OK octets Message etc C: DELE N-1 S: +OK C: DELE N S: +OK C: QUIT So it sort of does what you want, but one message behind. Don't know if this is by design or accident. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 10:36:48 AM, Thomas wrote: TF But the DELE command doesn't delete the message, it only flags it for TF deletion. The deletion will be executed on the server when the QUIT TF command is received. You are correct. This heightened my curiosity about POP3 protocol. A quick Google search found: http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/pop.htm with pointers to several pertinent RFCs for the curious. TF TB only sends commands to the server, it cannot change the TF server's standard behaviour. Thank goodness. :-) -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker
Friday, July 9, 2004, 3:05:03 AM, Britt wrote: BH I haven't tried it yet, because nobody has been able to tell me what BH the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic means, Ignore. Entries will have one word per line followed by a lowercase i. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 9:41:57 PM, Alan wrote: AT Hello Bat users, AT I notice that some of the smilies (from the pcwsmilies file, I think) AT do not display fully in my version of the bat. The right hand side of AT some is truncated. The following are examples: AT :hooray: Fixed as soon as it makes it to the new distribution. AT :pointmade: AT Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two! Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two. Usual cause is one or more frames are smaller than the largest frame and TheBat seems to reserve space for the smallest (first?). I've fixed a couple and sent them on to Leif. Alan or Mary contact me via PM if you need help fixing them. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 4:59:09 PM, Cyrille wrote: C Hello TBUDL, C I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat! C When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error C message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end C with CRLF.CRLF. C What does this mean? C What is going wrong? Seems some mail servers are more forgiving than others (looser specs). Maybe something changed; new release of X-ray, new server at your ISP, ... See: http://cr.yp.to/smtp/request.html#response for some info and use protocol.ini to see what TheBat is sending/receiving. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 10:22:06 AM, M wrote: Mary This is going to need the attention of both Leif and 9Val, in my Mary opinion. MicCullen Which was one of the major worries voiced at MicCullen the start of this whole thing :-( Not really. This is a user list and the smileys can be cleaned up buy users to work with the current code. Leif and 9val don't need to do anything about cleaning up smileys. Unless in his spare time 9val wants to code a gif viewer that takes all variations into consideration and displays them as the creator wanted, but didn't. :-D :-D -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 9:32:29 PM, Alan wrote: Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two. AT I have fixed them (using Jasc Animation Shop). It seems that by saving AT them with optimisation towards a bigger filesize did the trick. AT Thanks for the suggestion that I try fixing them myself :-) Congratulations!!! I always feel better when I know I can fix a problem myself. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 1:04:47 PM, Leif wrote: LG We have asked, and she has accepted, our very own lovable Mary Bull LG (Trill to those who know her well), to become the keeper of the LG PCWSmileys. LG http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Congratulations Mary!!! :hooray: -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 3:43:51 PM, Alex wrote: AE On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:31:37 AM, Dave wrote: Hello Leif, Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote: You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to a name immediately while reading a message. Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting when I'm scanning messages my own face pops out at me! AE Sorry to pop up an old thread, but I am having a bit of trouble with AE the Rogues smilies. I have the zip extracted into the /images AE directory along with the pdsf.msl and the rogues.msl. AE I seem to have Use smilies checked in the View/Edit properties. But AE nothing seems to appear. Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys. I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to be done. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: Black holes are where God divided by zero Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 6:23:14 PM, Allie wrote: AM With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e., pdsf2.msl AM and rougues.msl. AM For those using a non-beta, you can use only one msl file. The one to AM use would be pdsf2.msl. It's already altered to include all the AM roguemoticons as well as those normally provided with TB!. Delete AM pdsf.msl and rougues.msl. Rename pdsf2.msl to pdsf.msl and you should AM now be ready. AM Don't forget to use the RTV and not the PTV when viewing mail An excellent way to deal with version 2.11.02 provided you do not want to access smileys too. In fact this is what I do and just append smiley lines from pcwsmileys.msl to PDSF.msl -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 7:50:19 PM, dAniel wrote: dh Hello TBUDL, dh I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that dh this may be strange spam. I've received 5 or 6 empty messages in the last month; two empty messages in the last two days. Both from an address at swissonline.ch that looks like alphabet soup. I just marked them as spam and moved on. Now you have me considering there may be something else going on. -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: url and mailto problem
Thursday, July 1, 2004, 10:53:17 AM, Nick wrote: P I did some quick tests and if you want the URL to show as a clickable P link in the HTML viewer use the HTML editor and use the Link button P that appears in the HTML editor to create the link. NO Thanks for the suggestion. It is unfortunately a bit wieldy. Does NO this mean I can't automatically include an email address and a website NO address in a template while in html mode? Do I need to include html NO code in the template for this to occur to show highlighted (and NO clickable links) in the message? I have no idea how to include the correct code in a template so that the HTML editor will use it as a hyperlink. Searching for a HTMLHYPERLINK macro as well as my crude attempts to create a template failed. I seldom use the HTML editor and then only to play around with features. -- Regards, Plan9 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: url and mailto problem
Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 6:48:17 PM, Nick wrote: NO For the url, he did preface them with http://. For the email address NO he just entered the [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I said, this only NO happens in the html viewer of TB!. The text only viewer renders NO everything properly. I did some quick tests and if you want the URL to show as a clickable link in the HTML viewer use the HTML editor and use the Link button that appears in the HTML editor to create the link. -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbot@yahoogroups.com
Saturday, June 26, 2004, 6:41:36 PM, dAniel wrote: dh on Sat, 26. Jun 2004 at 13:01:13 -0400 Peter Kerekes wrote: I have not seen any message on TBot for at least a month. dh I had the same problem, started at the end of March.. when I went to my dh Yahoo Groups account they said my address was bouncing. dh Probably it's the same with your account.. I used to use MrPostman to get my messages from Yahoo and then used TheBat! to get the messages from a local port on my PC. However when Yahoo recently changed all e-mail accounts to 100MB this method broke and I no longer could retrieve e-mail without logging onto the Yahoo web interface. I still use MrPostman for Hotmail, but changed tbudl and tbot to my isp address. I am too lazy to try to fix Yahoo and occasionally log on just for the e-mail or two that still lands there. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 9:57:23 PM, Wayne wrote: WK Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? WK I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, I WK just asked whether the plugin was necessary. Go to: http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm and get some false virus files and test TheBat with and without the AVG plugin and report the results back to the group. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 1:09:22 PM, Leif wrote: LG Hello Dave, LG Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:31:37 AM, you wrote: Dave Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite Dave disconcerting when I'm scanning messages my own face pops out Dave at me! LG Excellent point. LG Vote time: LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file? LG Meaning, when it creates the on-the-fly .ZIP file for you, the LG Rogues.MSL won't have your specific information, but it will have LG everyone elses. Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the logic camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or someone else's I can just edit the msl file and comment it out. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: Black holes are where God divided by zero Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! attachment display settings?
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:20:18 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not MB The Bat! files, so I didn't. I periodically empty my temp folder(s). temp folders are just that for temporary use and anything left over from session to session are oversights, poor programming, non-graceful program termination, crashes, etc. Now having said this, some dumb program/programmer will assume files in a temp folder are perpetual and sacrosanct. :-( -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Error message from Help screen
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 10:47:52 PM, Maggie wrote: M Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the M window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells M and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable M MicroEd. I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the M text the way I created it, wrapping to the window instead. I too have settled on MicroEd because it it mostly what you see is what everybody gets with a few exceptions. Being the lowest common denominator among editors in TB! can be a plus. M There will be emails where I use the new features (Tables! M Italics!) but not many, and not to this List for sure. 8-)) and not to this List for sure. 8-)) Good decision. :-) -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:03:04 AM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Jernej, LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:14:46 AM, you wrote: Jernej BTW, where's _your_ cut mark? LG He has one. Right below his name. LG -- LG Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). LG Tagline of the day: LG First things first, but not necessarily in that order. But it appears that the space after the -- is being discarded when the following are used to create or reply to a message: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1250 and the RTF viewer is used. The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver color and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed (via F9) the space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF viewer? Or my settings? -- Regards, Plan9 On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:19:44 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Plan9, LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 9:58:56 AM, you wrote: Plan9 The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver Plan9 color and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed Plan9 (via F9) the space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF Plan9 viewer? Or my settings? LG Hmmm. I'm thinking it's on your settings. His shows up as grey as does LG mine and yours. LG How does your cut mark look when you view your own message? It's grey as is should be. And so is your's as long as your message is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii as shown by F9. Hmmm. I'll tinker with the settings, send some messages to myself to conserve list bandwith, and see what develops. -- Regards, Plan9 I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:24:50 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Plan9, LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:38:23 AM, you wrote: Plan9 It's grey as is should be. And so is your's as long as your Plan9 message is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii as shown Plan9 by F9. LG Hmmm. I know I haven't changed any of my charsets. I wonder what's LG going on. I don't know how to correct it, but I now know what triggers the missing space in the cut mark. Any message that has: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when viewed in the Rich Text viewer will not display the space. I took a good message with: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit, displayed the source with F9, copied it to a text editor, changed the 7bit to quoted-printable, saved it as a x.eml, imported into TheBat and the space was not displayed in the Rich Text viewer. I did the converse, took a message that had Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable, used F9, copied the source into a text editor, changed quoted-printable to 7bit, saved it as y.eml, imported into TheBat and the space was displayed and everything below the -- was grey. Even Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit displays correctly. So it appears that Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable triggers the undesirable behavior. I changed every setting I could think of and nothing changed this Rich Text viewer behavior. What triggers TheBat to use Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable in a message? I even set ACCOUNT PROPERTIES - MAIL MANAGEMENT to as Quoted-printable and all of my messages still use 7bit. Anyone else seeing this behavior in the Rich Text viewer? -- Regards, Plan9 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: coffee mugs in TB
Friday, June 4, 2004, 10:13:03 AM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Martin, LG Friday, June 4, 2004, 5:59:26 AM, you wrote: Martin That explains everything! :doh: - just a suggestion :-) LG We need a homer icon now! grin And a :donut: Mmmm :donut: -- Regards, Plan9 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html