Re: Licence unhappiness?

2004-09-05 Thread Plan9
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the dust settles.  They too are old friends.
| On the other side, I find that TB community, gathered in TB
| lists, is just a fine crowd of rogues
~  snip 
| if I'd have to choose between them and the company itself, with
| no a blink of my handsome eye I'll chose the gang.
This is exactly the reason why I never unsubscribed from tbot and
unsubscribed from tbudl and tbbeta only temporarily.  The community
is TheBat! and the continuity.  Anything else is merely software.
| If the crowd ever move somewhere, let me know for I am willing to
|  go with them. (-:
Me too.  I'll keep my bags packed :-)
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Re: LDIF errors

2004-08-25 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 11:33:16 PM, Chris wrote:

Chris I went to
Chris http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotnet/tools/Base64Decode/Default.aspx
Chris and entered the gibberish and it decoded into readable text.
Chris Therefore, The Bat! is encoding those addresses in base64 for some
Chris reason.

Chris, thanks for this hint. I started thinking that the only reason
for a Base64Encode was a strange character in the street address. The
three addresses that produced the encoding in the LDIF file all had a
carriage return and linefeed in them or a newline (not sure which).
The two shorter ones at the end of the street address and the longer
one in the middle.

So it seems that TheBat! LDIF files use Base64Encode when a
non-alphanumeric is in the data. FireFox can import and decode the
Base64Encode. But when Firefox exports the file again as LDIF it does
it as two lines, homePostalAddress: and mozillaHomePostalAddress2:
instead of Base64Encode.

All along I assumed LDIF was simple and equal across systems and
applications.  Boy was I wrong!  It can be converted but its full of
ifs, buts, whatevers, and quirks.  :-(  :-) Like tragic and comedy
theatre masks.

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Re: LDIF errors

2004-08-25 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 8:18:36 AM, Plan9 wrote:

Plan9 Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 11:33:16 PM, Chris wrote:

Chris I went to
Chris http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotnet/tools/Base64Decode/Default.aspx
Chris and entered the gibberish and it decoded into readable text.
Chris Therefore, The Bat! is encoding those addresses in base64 for some
Chris reason.

Plan9 Chris, thanks for this hint. I started thinking that the only reason
Plan9 for a Base64Encode was a strange character in the street address. The
Plan9 three addresses that produced the encoding in the LDIF file all had a
Plan9 carriage return and linefeed in them or a newline (not sure which).
Plan9 The two shorter ones at the end of the street address and the longer
Plan9 one in the middle.

Plan9 So it seems that TheBat! LDIF files use Base64Encode when a
Plan9 non-alphanumeric is in the data. FireFox can import and decode the
Plan9 Base64Encode. But when Firefox exports the file again as LDIF it does
Plan9 it as two lines, homePostalAddress: and mozillaHomePostalAddress2:
Plan9 instead of Base64Encode.

Plan9 All along I assumed LDIF was simple and equal across systems and
Plan9 applications.  Boy was I wrong!  It can be converted but its full of
Plan9 ifs, buts, whatevers, and quirks.  :-(  :-) Like tragic and comedy
Plan9 theatre masks.

Substitute Thunderbird for Firefox.  Brain slippage.  :-)

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LDIF errors

2004-08-24 Thread Plan9
I have been using LDIF export from the address book as a backup
mechanism and to transfer info to other programs. Tonight I looked
very closely at the LDIF file after I began to get strange results in
a reporting program. Out of 135 entries 3 had gibberish for the street
address (homePostalAddress) in the LDIF file.

The 3 homePostalAddress lines looked like this:
homePostalAddress:: NjgyNSBIaWxscyBEci4NCg==
homePostalAddress:: MVM2ODYgR3JlZW5icmlhciBEci4NCg==
homePostalAddress:: 
MTU5IEluZGlhIFN0cmVldCwgIEFwdCAzTCANCkJyb29rbHluLCBOWSAgMTEyMjItMTcxOA==

They should look like:
homePostalAddress: 1234 Any Street

Can anyone confirm that LDIF export from TheBat! is corrupt?

The unusual thing is the addresses are correct in the address book
properties window (the Edit Address Entry window) and the exported VCF
contains correct information.  Just the LDIF file is corrupt.

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Re: LDIF errors

2004-08-24 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 10:43:02 PM, Chris wrote:

 The 3 homePostalAddress lines looked like this:
 homePostalAddress:: NjgyNSBIaWxscyBEci4NCg==
 homePostalAddress:: MVM2ODYgR3JlZW5icmlhciBEci4NCg==
 homePostalAddress::
 MTU5IEluZGlhIFN0cmVldCwgIEFwdCAzTCANCkJyb29rbHluLCBOWSAgMTEyMjItMTcxOA==
 They should look like:
 homePostalAddress: 1234 Any Street
 Can anyone confirm that LDIF export from TheBat! is corrupt?

Chris I only get this for any templates I have in the address book.
Chris Perhaps this is some form of encoding. Does the LDIF file import
Chris properly?

This gets stranger. There are no templates associated with the
addresses in question and they do import correctly back into TheBat!
and the homePostalAddress line even imports correctly into Firefox
(although other lines do not because of differences in naming
conventions).  When the newly imported addresses are then LDIF exported
from Firefox they export as plain text addresses e.g. 1234 Any Street
and not as gibberish.  I'm at a loss understanding what is going on.

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-20 Thread Plan9
Friday, August 20, 2004, 6:31:30 PM, Peter wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book
P window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is
P off by a day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to
P add a Birthday column to see it.

Peter Located at GMT +1, it displays fine here.
Peter I can reproduce it though after:
Peter - closing TB
Peter - changing the PC timezone to GMT -n
Peter - starting TB

Peter Care to add a bugtracker entry?

I've never used bugtracker, but I'll give it a try.

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Address Book Birthday display error (Was Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?)

2004-08-20 Thread Plan9
Friday, August 20, 2004, 7:22:24 PM, Plan9 wrote:

Peter Care to add a bugtracker entry?

Plan9 I've never used bugtracker, but I'll give it a try.

Just submitted a BT Report:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003427

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 6:20:38 AM, Paul wrote:

Paul now you are starting to get into PIM territory. You can't add a
Paul birthday/anniversary/divorce date to memo ?? I add all my notes about
Paul people to the Memo field.. BUT I agree, reports would be nice.

Without some way to easily use and share all of the information stored
in the Address Book it becomes a black hole database, everything
goes in and nothing (well, very little) comes out.

On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
(the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
Birthday column to see it.

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:23:31 PM, Jurgen wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
P day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
P Birthday column to see it.

 Here it's the correct date that's shown.

Jurgen here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g

Nice try.  :-D  But it's definitely off by a day.  Could it have
something to location; GMT + or -?

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:00:55 PM, Roelof wrote:

Roelof Hallo Plan9,

Roelof On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I
Roelof live), you wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
P day on my system.  Anyone else notice this?  You may have to add a
P Birthday column to see it.

Roelof Here it's the correct date that's shown.

Just to make sure everyone is looking at the same thing I've put two
jpg images on my website.

The properties screen where the birthday is entered.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/properties.jpg

The Address Book screen that list all of the addresses.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/add_book.jpg

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-19 Thread Plan9
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:27:35 PM, Maggie wrote:

P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window
P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a
P day on my system.

Maggie   Could that be a feature? Is it the day before? If so, that would
Maggie   make sense. Give you a warning?

I don't think so or Roelof and Jurgen would also be seeing a day early
birthday listing. Seems like an East/West side of the Pond/GMT phenomenon.
People on this side see the discrepancy (I think Perry is here too),
people on the other side do not.

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Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-18 Thread Plan9
TheBat! Address Book can contain a wealth of information that is
available on a single person/entity at a time. But is there a way to
get various reports/printouts of everyone in the Address Book such as:

Names and birthdays
Names and addresses
Names, addresses and phone numbers
Names, addresses and pictures
All the above restricted to favorite
etc.

Exporting the Address Book and manipulating the result in another
application seems like a lot of work for something that should be
easily available from within TheBat!

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Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?

2004-08-18 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 5:55:49 PM, Plan9 wrote:

Plan9 TheBat! Address Book can contain a wealth of information that is
Plan9 available on a single person/entity at a time. But is there a way to
Plan9 get various reports/printouts...

As an additional note I have tried the following formats:
   Memo
   Business card
   Telephone list
   Address list
and they are nice as far as they go, but stop a little short of
providing the flexibility that I would like. For example none permit
adding birthdays as far as I can tell and none provide any filtering,
although you can pick and choose entries from the address list (with
CNTRL-LEFTCLICK) to be included in the printed output.

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Re: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Plan9
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 1:55:04 PM, Maurice wrote:

PO This depends on settings you made on the first page of the backup
PO window. Is 'Address Books' checked? Are address books selected (use the
PO 'Choose...' button).

Maurice Like a fool, I've been accepting the default settings and never
Maurice bothered to look beyond Trusted Root CA (though why anyone would
Maurice want to have this as a default, is beyond me...). Mystery solved: I
Maurice did not check the individual Address Books on the next page.

Maurice Am I the only fool out there?

Nope. After I read Peter's reply I checked my backup settings. And
guess what? I quickly changed the default address book and performed
another backup.

Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup tool?

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Re: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Plan9
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 7:35:40 PM, Chris wrote:

 Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup
 tool?
Chris I changed mine a while ago and the proper address books are still
Chris checked.

You are correct.  Seems to have taken a restart of TheBat! for my new
selection to be visible as the default.

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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

2004-08-11 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:12:59 PM, Martin wrote:

Martin Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I
Martin wouldn't have thought that was a security breach.

I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the
headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from brick the
name of my computer and then my IP. What if I had named my computer
big and  happened to be a little or a lot risque not
expecting my computer name to be inserted into a mail message. :-D

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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

2004-08-11 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:22:29 PM, Plan9 wrote:

Plan9 Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:12:59 PM, Martin wrote:

Martin Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I
Martin wouldn't have thought that was a security breach.

Plan9 I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the
Plan9 headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from brick the
Plan9 name of my computer and then my IP. What if I had named my computer
Plan9 big and  happened to be a little or a lot risque not
Plan9 expecting my computer name to be inserted into a mail message. :-D

Sorry about that.  Martin's message was in TBOT.  I replied and it
went to TBUDL.  :-(

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Re: Messages lacking In-Reply-To: header and not threading

2004-08-08 Thread Plan9
Sunday, August 8, 2004, 9:02:58 PM, Allie wrote:

Allie The other mystery is what is happening to the In-reply-to header that
Allie TB! usually generates when a reply message is generated.

I notice that Gerard is using X-Ray.  Could it be eating the
In-Reply_to: header?

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Re: Playing with BayesIT macros

2004-08-04 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 10:11:49 PM, Michael wrote:

JBL Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig
JBL should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig,
JBL particularly once you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess
JBL of this.

Michael I take this view. If people do not want long signatures, then
Michael stop writing so many F*ing macros. I like to play with the
Michael macros and test them, and now you complain about my sig being
Michael too long. oh well.

Wow, Michael! Take a deep breath and relax.

If I had this same attitude with my car then I'd zip through
neighborhoods with my foot to the floor winding out the old BMW for
all it's worth. After all if I can't use all the horses under the
hood/bonnet why were they put there in the first place? But I do not.
Know why? I have respect for others, their pursuit of life and
happiness, and their environment.

I think you do too and may have regretted this note as soon as you
sent it.  Want to experiment, send notes to yourself or to me.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:59:50 PM, malexander wrote:

malexander And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First
malexander Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting
malexander spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of
malexander the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted
malexander before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly
malexander any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked
malexander deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more
malexander effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using
malexander the Bat.

Bellsouth is my ISP and I use their mail servers and their MailGard
option. So far it has caught almost all of the spam that shows up in
my mailbox. Maybe one a day gets through. Out of 350 spam messages in
three days only one made it to TheBat!, knock on wood (as he raps
himself beside the head with his knuckles). The rest were dealt with
on the server by MailGard where I have the option of viewing them to
make sure none were really ham or letting the process delete
them automatically. I have no idea what MailGard is, but it works.

I tried BayesFilters and BayesIt out of curiosity for a while, but
they were much more work and no better than the filter provided by
Bellsouth.

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Re: Some smileys don't appear

2004-08-02 Thread Plan9
Monday, August 2, 2004, 6:08:23 PM, Robin wrote:

Robin Does anyone else see the ascii handle instead of the smiley here :-) or
Robin  here :) ?

Appears as ascii text here too.

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Re: mail dispatcher fails

2004-07-30 Thread Plan9
Friday, July 30, 2004, 8:17:50 AM, A.Translator wrote:

A.Trans There ís a message, I think. When connecting to the
A.Trans server, one of the accounts shows 1/1 , but no message is
A.Trans retrieved. That is the reason I wanted to open the message
A.Trans dispatcher.

Send a message to that account so there is at least one new message
and try again.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-29 Thread Plan9
Thursday, July 29, 2004, 6:20:12 AM, Robert wrote:

P This message produces a bad signature.
Robert So,  this  is because of the Cyrillic characters in the date. And what
Robert is  the  regex  to  automatically  use  the  English  date  instead of
Robert Ukrainian? (This one should have bad sig also, I assume...)

No.  This message has a good signature.

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Re: mail dispatcher fails

2004-07-29 Thread Plan9
Thursday, July 29, 2004, 12:07:15 PM, Roelof wrote:

Roelof I'm not sure about what is supposed to happen, since I never used the
Roelof dispatcher.
Roelof But when I press CtrlShiftF2 (not F12) The dispatcher and the
Roelof CC are opened and they don't close before I kill them. I'm using the
Roelof 2.12.03 beta, but that shouldn't matter.

I too am using 2.12.03 and POP3. If I have messages on the server the
CC stays open for me to deal with them, but if there are no messages
then it opens and immediately closes.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 7:29:09 AM, Robert wrote:

ASK What is your problem with it?

Robert When  I get such a message, I press the encryption button in the right
Robert corner  and get the dialog box asking me to enter the passphrase. I do
Robert and get something like this:

Robert gpg: can't open `C:\Program Files\The Bat!\batD3F2.tmp'
Robert gpg: decrypt_message failed: file open error

Robert If I switch to PGP 8.1, pressing the button does nothing at all.

Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
says that your key has a bad signature.

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pgpPUOHzUxEbP.pgp
Description: PGP signature

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PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
to --=20.  I think I know why - to preserve the space -, but who
changed the space to =20?  TheBat! or PGP?

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 10:17:07 AM, Robert wrote:

Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Robert Hash: SHA1

Robert On 28 eeiiy 2004 ?., 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote:

P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
P says that your key has a bad signature.

Robert You  are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I
Robert type  this  message,  I  have  the  date  in the first line spelled in
Robert Ukrainian.  So,  I  will  try  to sign it and send. Then I will do the
Robert same, but will change the date into English. Let's see...

This message produces a bad signature.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 10:17:47 AM, Robert wrote:

Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Robert Hash: SHA1

Robert On July 28, 2004, 15:55:57, Plan9 wrote:

P Robert, when I look at my PGPLog file, under the Signed column it
P says that your key has a bad signature.

Robert You  are right. Perhaps that is because of the encoding problems. As I
Robert type  this  message,  I  have  the  date  in the first line spelled in
Robert Ukrainian.  So,  I  will  try  to sign it and send. Then I will do the
Robert same, but will change the date into English. Let's see...

This message produces a good signature.

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Re: PGP and sig delimiter

2004-07-28 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 3:15:07 PM, Paul wrote:

P I just looked at the source of one of my PGP signed messages and
P noticed that the sig delimiter had been changed from dash dash space
P to --=20.

Paul does everyone else who signs theres show the same thing in your source
Paul view??

Yes.  Just pick one of the signed messages in tbudl and look at the
source.

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Re: AVG Anti Virus plug in not working?

2004-07-17 Thread Plan9
Saturday, July 17, 2004, 2:38:39 PM, Paul wrote:

W I had put AVG free version on a friend's computer that was having
W virus problems. (Norton wasnt finding anything.) It found a
W key-capture trojan, but could not remove it. I convinced her to buy
W AVG 7. It removed the trojan and several copies of some other nasty
W little critters than neither Norton nor AVG 6 found. Pattern files
W for both were up to date.

W IMO, pay the pieces of eight and get AVG 7.

PC so, they are leaving us vulnerable and they know it?? so the free
PC version is less worthwhile, or worthless, since it doesn't catch
PC everything they know about. I guess it is time to switch!

Not yet Paul.. I too use the free version of AVG and I'm not ready to
switch just yet.

Arjan de Groot sums up my feelings exactly in:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] when he says:
Another unsubstantiated claim. I want facts, not hearsay.
 So, can you tell me the names of those nasty critters?

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What group to ask TheBat internal questions?

2004-07-16 Thread Plan9
Which group (tbudl, tbbeta, tbdev, tbdev, tbot) is the appropriate
group to ask the following type of question.

Does TheBat! on startup build a dynamic table and store rogue handles
from rogues.msl for the current session so they cannot be use for
other purposes?

If this group is OK then what is the answer?

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Re: Smileys and Rogues

2004-07-16 Thread Plan9
Friday, July 16, 2004, 6:23:59 PM, Roelof wrote:

RO Let's take the instructions Leif posted to tbot half an hour ago:
RO Let's start with a clean installation of smileys.

RO 1. Delete *everything* in the IMAGES folder *except* Default.MSL and
ROthe folder named DEFAULT.

 snip 

Good set of instructions. But if someone upgrades to 2.12.00 by merely
extracting the thebat.exe file from the installation file (as a few
people have suggested) instead of letting TB! run through a normal
installation, then they will not have an images\default folder or a
default.msl file. This may be part of the confusion for some. As far
as I know these are new for 2.12.00.

I just did an experiment and C-S-A-t will not rebuild them if they are
missing. But they can be extracted from the installation file
the_bat2.12.00.exe if need be.

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Re: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 11:24:37 AM, Joseph wrote:

JN On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:39:23 GMT,  wrote:

 This however looks ugly in the days of proportional fonts. Thus
 one space is recommended in that situation.
 
JN Some people differ on those conclusions.  While I'm all in favor 
JN of attractive type, the two-spaces-after-a-period approach has 
JN more than just formality on its side.  Type is easier to read 
JN quickly, and it's easier to read aloud if necessary, when 
JN sentences are subtly separated by that extra space.  In any event,
JN however, since in nearly all settings the two-space rule remains 
JN in effect, TB!'s spacing looks odd to recipients and is impossible
JN to cut and paste without modifications.  

I too like to see two spaces after a period ends a sentence for the
reasons stated above.  I suspect that the conversion from two spaces to
one occurs when text editors with too little decision intelligence
programmed into them try to be word processors.  It's much easier to
format to one space after any punctuation that build in a decision tree
or intelligence to pick out a sentence.

A better solution would be for the editor (MicroEd in the case of
TheBat!) to have a preference switch that states Convert two spaces
after punctuation to one when reformatting?  Then one could turn this
practice on or off.

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Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 2:03:35 PM, Zonnet wrote:

Z I would like to hear from other TB user which version currently works best
Z with TB and if there are any pitfalls to look out for.

I used PGP 7.0.3 up until a few days ago and now use 8.0.3. Both free
versions and both worked flawlessly.  If you decide to use 8.0.3 Free
version just un-check all the additional pieces it wants to load
(email plugins, etc.) and load the basic software.  TheBat! already
has built in support for PGP.

See http://www.mccune.cc/PGPpage2.htm for a pretty good QA on PGP in
general.

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Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 3:31:07 PM, Zonnet wrote:

Z Thanks that was helpful. I installed the, what I believed to be the free
Z PGP version, and am now tinkering with it.

Z Do you have to click later every time you start it up at the key entry?

No.  I only clicked on it once and have not seen it since.

In my previous post I failed to point you to
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/ss/pgp8fw/pgp8fw.htm which is a
very good installation tutorial for version 8. You may want to visit it to
see if this is the way you installed PGP.  If you installed any of the
optional components it may bring up the license screen where I think
you are seeing the Later Manual Purchase Now.  I chose
to not install any option components.

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 Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ.
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Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-13 Thread Plan9
Monday, July 12, 2004, 11:03:30 PM, Mary wrote:

MB Hmm. I've been joking about the time machine :timemachine: but I
MB wonder. Could our mails be lost in here: :tm:

A job is never finished until the paperwork is done.  :-D

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Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Plan9
Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote:

RO The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour
RO later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is
RO that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me.

For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is
concerned. I have been getting duplicates and triplicates of emails.
Some as close as an hour apart and others several hours later. I just
chalked it up as Bellsouth (my ISP and mail server) having a bad-hair
day. But the problem may be more wide spread. Anyone else having
problems.  I don't think it is TB!

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Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

2004-07-11 Thread Plan9
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 7:03:01 AM, HELDON wrote:

H Problem is that i need The Bat! working in following order:
H When first mail is received i need that mail to be deleted from
H mailserver immediately, and when its done, only then to start downloading second
H mail. When second mail is received i need delete it from mailserver
H immediately too, and only then start download mail Nr.3, and so on..

I did a quick experiment and this seems to be the order that TheBat
retrieves and deletes messages for me on a POP account.
C: RETR 1
S: +OK  octets
   Message
C: RETR 2
S: +OK  octets
   Message
C: DELE 1
S: +OK
C: RETR 3
S: +OK  octets
   Message
C: DELE 2
S: +OK
C: RETR 4
S: +OK  octets
   Message
C: DELE 3
S: +OK
C: RETR 5
S: +OK  octets
   Message   
C: DELE 4
S: +OK
C: RETR 6
S: +OK  octets
   Message
etc
C: DELE N-1
S: +OK
C: DELE N
S: +OK
C: QUIT

So it sort of does what you want, but one message behind.  Don't know
if this is by design or accident.
   
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Re: The Bat! help needed (tweaking way how to get e-mails)

2004-07-11 Thread Plan9
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 10:36:48 AM, Thomas wrote:

TF But the DELE command doesn't delete the message, it only flags it for
TF deletion. The deletion will be executed on the server when the QUIT
TF command is received.

You are correct.  This heightened my curiosity about POP3 protocol.  A
quick Google search found:  http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/pop.htm
with pointers to several pertinent RFCs for the curious.

TF TB only sends commands to the server, it cannot change the
TF server's standard behaviour.

Thank goodness.  :-)

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Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker

2004-07-09 Thread Plan9
Friday, July 9, 2004, 3:05:03 AM, Britt wrote:

BH I haven't tried it yet, because nobody has been able to tell me what
BH the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic means,

Ignore. Entries will have one word per line followed by a lowercase i.

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Re: Some Smilies incomplete

2004-07-07 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 9:41:57 PM, Alan wrote:

AT Hello Bat users,

AT I notice that some of the smilies (from the pcwsmilies file, I think)
AT do not display fully in my version of the bat. The right hand side of
AT some is truncated. The following are examples:

AT :hooray:
Fixed as soon as it makes it to the new distribution.

AT :pointmade:
AT Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two!

Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two. Usual cause is one or
more frames are smaller than the largest frame and TheBat seems to
reserve space for the smallest (first?).  I've fixed a couple and sent
them on to Leif.

Alan or Mary contact me via PM if you need help fixing them.

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Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray

2004-07-07 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 4:59:09 PM, Cyrille wrote:

C Hello TBUDL,

C   I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat!
C   When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error
C   message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end
C   with CRLF.CRLF.
C   What does this mean?
C   What is going wrong?

Seems some mail servers are more forgiving than others (looser specs).
Maybe something changed; new release of X-ray, new server at your
ISP, ...
 
See:  http://cr.yp.to/smtp/request.html#response  for some info and
use protocol.ini to see what TheBat is sending/receiving.

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Re: Some Smilies incomplete

2004-07-07 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 10:22:06 AM, M wrote:

Mary This is going to need the attention of both Leif and 9Val, in my
Mary opinion. 
MicCullen Which was one of the major worries voiced at
MicCullen the start of this whole thing :-(

Not really.  This is a user list and the smileys can be cleaned up buy
users to work with the current code.  Leif and 9val don't need to do
anything about cleaning up smileys.

Unless in his spare time 9val wants to code a gif viewer that takes
all variations into consideration and displays them as the creator
wanted, but didn't.  :-D   :-D

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Re: Some Smilies incomplete

2004-07-07 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 9:32:29 PM, Alan wrote:

 Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two.

AT I have fixed them (using Jasc Animation Shop). It seems that by saving
AT them with optimisation towards a bigger filesize did the trick.
AT Thanks for the suggestion that I try fixing them myself :-)

Congratulations!!! I always feel better when I know I can fix a problem
myself.

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Re: Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 1:04:47 PM, Leif wrote:

LG We have asked, and she has accepted, our very own lovable Mary Bull
LG (Trill to those who know her well), to become the keeper of the
LG PCWSmileys.
LG http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php

Congratulations Mary!!!  :hooray:

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 3:43:51 PM, Alex wrote:

AE On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:31:37 AM, Dave wrote:

 Hello Leif,
 Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote:

 You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
 than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
 a name immediately while reading a message.

 Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting
 when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out at me!

AE Sorry to pop up an old thread, but I am having a bit of trouble with
AE the Rogues smilies. I have the zip extracted into the /images
AE directory along with the pdsf.msl and the rogues.msl.
AE I seem to have Use smilies checked in the View/Edit properties. But
AE nothing seems to appear.

Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to
be done.

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 6:23:14 PM, Allie wrote:

AM With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e., pdsf2.msl
AM and rougues.msl.
AM For those using a non-beta, you can use only one msl file. The one to
AM use would be pdsf2.msl. It's already altered to include all the
AM roguemoticons as well as those normally provided with TB!. Delete
AM pdsf.msl and rougues.msl. Rename pdsf2.msl to pdsf.msl and you should
AM now be ready.
AM Don't forget to use the RTV and not the PTV when viewing mail

An excellent way to deal with version 2.11.02 provided you do not want
to access smileys too.  In fact this is what I do and just append smiley
lines from pcwsmileys.msl to PDSF.msl

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Re: mails lost!

2004-07-04 Thread Plan9
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 7:50:19 PM, dAniel wrote:

dh Hello TBUDL,

dh I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that
dh this may be strange spam.

I've received 5 or 6 empty messages in the last month; two empty
messages in the last two days. Both from an address at swissonline.ch
that looks like alphabet soup. I just marked them as spam and moved
on. Now you have me considering there may be something else going on.

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Re: url and mailto problem

2004-07-01 Thread Plan9
Thursday, July 1, 2004, 10:53:17 AM, Nick wrote:

P I did some quick tests and if you want the URL to show as a clickable
P link in the HTML viewer use the HTML editor and use the Link button
P that appears in the HTML editor to create the link.

NO Thanks for the suggestion.  It is unfortunately a bit wieldy. Does
NO this mean I can't automatically include an email address and a website
NO address in a template while in html mode?  Do I need to include html
NO code in the template for this to occur to show highlighted (and
NO clickable links) in the message?

I have no idea how to include the correct code in a template so that
the HTML editor will use it as a hyperlink. Searching for a
HTMLHYPERLINK macro as well as my crude attempts to create a template
failed. I seldom use the HTML editor and then only to play around with
features.

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Re: url and mailto problem

2004-06-30 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 6:48:17 PM, Nick wrote:

NO For the url, he did preface them with http://.  For the email address
NO he just entered the [EMAIL PROTECTED]  As I said, this only
NO happens in the html viewer of TB!.  The text only viewer renders
NO everything properly.

I did some quick tests and if you want the URL to show as a clickable
link in the HTML viewer use the HTML editor and use the Link button
that appears in the HTML editor to create the link.

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Re: tbot@yahoogroups.com

2004-06-26 Thread Plan9
Saturday, June 26, 2004, 6:41:36 PM, dAniel wrote:

dh on Sat, 26. Jun 2004 at 13:01:13 -0400 Peter Kerekes wrote:

 I have not seen any message on TBot for at least a month.

dh I had the same problem, started at the end of March.. when I went to my
dh Yahoo Groups account they said my address was bouncing.
dh Probably it's the same with your account..

I used to use MrPostman to get my messages from Yahoo and then used
TheBat! to get the messages from a local port on my PC. However when
Yahoo recently changed all e-mail accounts to 100MB this method broke
and I no longer could retrieve e-mail without logging onto the Yahoo
web interface.

I still use MrPostman for Hotmail, but changed tbudl and tbot to my
isp address.  I am too lazy to try to fix Yahoo and occasionally log
on just for the e-mail or two that still lands there.

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Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?

2004-06-24 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 9:57:23 PM, Wayne wrote:

WK Will AVG work without the plugin?  I only use pop3 and am happy
WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted.

 What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin?

WK I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, I
WK just asked whether the plugin was necessary.

Go to:  http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
and get some false virus files and test TheBat with and
without the AVG plugin and report the results back to the group.

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-06-17 Thread Plan9
Thursday, June 17, 2004, 1:09:22 PM, Leif wrote:

LG Hello Dave,

LG Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:31:37 AM, you wrote:
Dave Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite
Dave disconcerting when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out
Dave at me!

LG Excellent point.

LG Vote time:

LG Should I include logic in my code that would omit your own smiley from
LG the Rogues.MSL when you click the box to create a new .ZIP file?

LG Meaning, when it creates the on-the-fly .ZIP file for you, the
LG Rogues.MSL won't have your specific information, but it will have
LG everyone elses.

Nope. Not worth the effort and adds one more straw to the logic
camel's back. If I do not want to see my face or someone else's I can
just edit the msl file and comment it out.

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Re[2]: TB! attachment display settings?

2004-06-11 Thread Plan9
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 11:20:18 PM, Mary Bull wrote:

MB I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not
MB The Bat! files, so I didn't.

I periodically empty my temp folder(s). temp folders are just that
for temporary use and anything left over from session to session are
oversights, poor programming, non-graceful program termination, crashes,
etc.  Now having said this, some dumb program/programmer will assume
files in a temp folder are perpetual and sacrosanct.  :-(

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Re[3]: Error message from Help screen

2004-06-09 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 10:47:52 PM, Maggie wrote:

M Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the
M window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells
M and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable
M MicroEd. I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the
M text the way I created it, wrapping to the window instead.

I too have settled on MicroEd because it it mostly what you see is
what everybody gets with a few exceptions.  Being the lowest common
denominator among editors in TB! can be a plus.

M There will be emails where I use the new features (Tables!
M Italics!) but not many, and not to this List for sure. 8-)) 

and not to this List for sure. 8-))  Good decision.  :-)

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Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-08 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:03:04 AM, Leif Gregory wrote:

LG Hello Jernej,

LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:14:46 AM, you wrote:
Jernej BTW, where's _your_ cut mark?

LG He has one. Right below his name.

LG --
LG Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user).

LG Tagline of the day:
LG First things first, but not necessarily in that order.

But it appears that the space after the -- is being discarded when
the following are used to create or reply to a message:
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
or
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1250
and the RTF viewer is used.

The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver color
and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed (via F9) the
space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF viewer? Or my
settings?

-- 
Regards,
 Plan9
On the seventh day He brewed beer



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Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-08 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:19:44 PM, Leif Gregory wrote:

LG Hello Plan9,
LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 9:58:56 AM, you wrote:

Plan9 The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver
Plan9 color and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed
Plan9 (via F9) the space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF
Plan9 viewer? Or my settings?

LG Hmmm. I'm thinking it's on your settings. His shows up as grey as does
LG mine and yours.

LG How does your cut mark look when you view your own message?

It's grey as is should be.  And so is your's as long as your message
is:
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
as shown by F9.

Hmmm. I'll tinker with the settings, send some messages to myself to
conserve list bandwith, and see what develops.

-- 
Regards,
 Plan9
I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time.
   -Mark Twain



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Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark

2004-06-08 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:24:50 PM, Leif Gregory wrote:

LG Hello Plan9,

LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:38:23 AM, you wrote:
Plan9 It's grey as is should be. And so is your's as long as your
Plan9 message is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii as shown
Plan9 by F9.

LG Hmmm. I know I haven't changed any of my charsets. I wonder what's
LG going on.

I don't know how to correct it, but I now know what triggers the
missing space in the cut mark.  Any message that has:
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
when viewed in the Rich Text viewer will not display the space.

I took a good message with: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit,
displayed the source with F9, copied it to a text editor, changed the
7bit to quoted-printable, saved it as a x.eml, imported into TheBat
and the space was not displayed in the Rich Text viewer.

I did the converse, took a message that had
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable, used F9, copied the
source into a text editor, changed quoted-printable to 7bit, saved
it as y.eml, imported into TheBat and the space was displayed and
everything below the --  was grey.

Even Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit displays correctly. So it
appears that Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable triggers
the undesirable behavior. I changed every setting I could think of and
nothing changed this Rich Text viewer behavior.

What triggers TheBat to use Content-Transfer-Encoding:
quoted-printable in a message?

I even set ACCOUNT PROPERTIES - MAIL MANAGEMENT to as
Quoted-printable and all of my messages still use 7bit.

Anyone else seeing this behavior in the Rich Text viewer?

-- 
Regards,
 Plan9
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Re[2]: coffee mugs in TB

2004-06-04 Thread Plan9
Friday, June 4, 2004, 10:13:03 AM, Leif Gregory wrote:

LG Hello Martin,

LG Friday, June 4, 2004, 5:59:26 AM, you wrote:
Martin That explains everything! :doh: - just a suggestion :-)

LG We need a homer icon now! grin

And a :donut:
Mmmm :donut:

-- 
Regards,
 Plan9



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