RE: adding account to two computers
Hi, Roelof, Thanks for your response. On Friday, July 6, 2012, at 9:59 a.m., you wrote in response to my query about adding an account to two computers: ROTB stores the number of accounts in the registry. Therefore it won't ROlook for more accounts. ROCreate a new account with the same name as your new account folder, TB ROwill recognise those settings Ordinarily, when I create a new account, I have to go into properties and change the settings for transport, since the default settings don't work. This includes changing some of the ports, and some of the other options as well. When I create, as you suggest, a new account on PC2 with the same name as the new account on PC1, will I still have to go in and change those transport settings from their defaults, or, will The Bat automatically apply the changes that I set up on PC1? What do you think of Paul's suggestion to create a complete backup of the new account on PC1 and then restoring this on PC2? The only reason I see to do this is to make sure that the new account on PC2 has all of the changed settings from the account created on PC 1. -- Avi Avram Sacks Using The Bat ver 4.0.18 on Win XP pro sp3 and Win7 Home sp1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: The Bat! v5 Upgrade Experience
On Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 11:44:45 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote and to which Dwight Corinn concurred:: So, if you are holding off on an upgrade because you are afraid that TB! v5 will not be as good as your current version, my experience is that the upgrade is painless. If you are expecting a new look and feel to the software, then v5 is probably not for you, however! I concur completely in your assessment of v5. Several years ago I attempted to use IMAP with The Bat ver. 4.0.18. It did not work well. So, I reverted to POP and have had to bother with downloading e-mail to two separate pcs. Does ver. 5 now work better with IMAP? If I do switch to IMAP, will IMAP mail that is filtered appear to be merged seamlessly with mail that has already been downloaded and filtered to one of two dozen folders. -- Avi Avram L. Sacks Using The Bat ver 4.0.18 on Win XP Pro sp3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: TB, IMAP and smartphones
On Friday, January 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM Peter Fjelsten wrote regarding the use of TB and smartphones with IMAP I check the same accounts using an Android phone, webmail, TheBat and Outlook. Using IMAP means that a mail is marked read when it's read on any of those clients. Also all mail is available to all clients since it sits on the server. I'd suggest using only IMAP In other words, when mail is received by your third-party mail host, such as GoDaddy.com or 1and1.com, it stays in your account on your mail host's server? Do you ever download it to your computer so that you own a copy? Do you trust your mail host to never lose your e-mail, even if it is 5 or 10 years' old? Is it possible to have IMAP and still download a copy to your computer? If you have set up a whole bunch of folders for your mail, do you have to do the same for your phone? Aren't the folders located on the computer? If so, how can you access folders from the phone? Or, is it that when you read mail from your phone, you just have to wade through everything and not have folders? Avi Avram Sacks Using TB ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP Pro and Win 7. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: TB, IMAP and smartphones
Hi, Dwight, Thanks for your response. Please see below. On Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:09 PM Dwight Corrin wrote In response to my question: If you have set up a whole bunch of folders for your mail, do you have to do the same for your phone? Aren't the folders located on the computer? best to create the folders and do the sorting on the server. then they are where they belong wherever you reference them from. Ok. I see that you are using the beta version of TB, 5.0.0. When I tried to set up IMAP when I went from ver. 1.60 to 4.0.18, it didn't work so well. After seeing comments from others that they, too, had had difficulties with IMAP, I assumed it was the software and not my lack of technical skill. Is your positive experience with IMAP a function of using ver. 5.0.0, or were you able to get it to work with version 4.0.18. or earlier? //Avi Avram Sacks Using TB ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP pro and Win 7 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: TB, IMAP and smartphones
Hi, Dwight, You wrote: Is your positive experience with IMAP a function of using ver. 5.0.0, or were you able to get it to work with version 4.0.18. or earlier? 'version 4.x worked better with IMAP than any other client I tried. 4.0.18 is a pretty old version. It shows at the bottom of messages for this list that current is 4.2.23. Does this mean that you are finding that IMAP works better with 4.2.23 than with 5.0.0 (beta)? //avi Avram Sacks Using ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP pro and Win7 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB, IMAP and smartphones
Hi, all. I and my wife may soon be migrating to smartphones. However, how does one synchronize e-mail between two computers and two smartphones? Is this purpose served through use of IMAP? If so, isn't that a problem? I have tried to get IMAP to work with The Bat, but haven't been very successful. FWIW, we have a private domain with three separate e-mail accounts, one of which filters some of the mail into three subfolders. We also have five Gmail accounts, each of which have a number of subfolders. POP is used for all of these accounts. Any suggestions? Avram Sacks Skokie, IL Using TB ver 4.0.18 on Win Pro XP and on Win 7 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB bevahing strangely: spontaneously sent messages - can this be stopped?
Hi, all What could be the cause of The Bat sending out old messages? This morning I became aware that at least four old messages from three different user accounts resident in our Bat software at home, have been sent out in the past 24 hours. I am aware of at least four occurrences, but there could be more. It is fitting that there is, on this list, a perfect example: the only message registered as having been received on this list yesterday, was one from our home-based account for general list serv mail: achdu...@gmail.com. That message was written on July 4, 2010, yet, was received by the list yesterday!! Even more curious is that our sent mail folder shows this message as having been sent on July 4, 2010, but there is no record in my Bat folder, here, at the office (using a different e-mail client and account) of that message ever having been received by the list until yesterday, January 9, 2011. I suspect I would find the same behavior vis a vis other messages. What could be causing this strange behavior? What steps can I take to stop this from happening? Avram L. Sacks 2700 Lake Cook Road Riverwoods, IL 60015 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network (the altF2 command)
Thanks, Paul, Your notes will be very useful. One question I forgot to ask: Hajdu recommended in response to my questionWhat is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers running The Bat? that I use a backup of TB from the old laptop rather than from the host pc on which TB is running. That makes sense, particularly because two filters and subfolders were created on the old laptop that are not on the host PC's version of TB. However, I have also observed that the alt F2 command (to download e-mail from all accounts at once) does not work on the laptop, even though both the old laptop and the host PC are running the same version of TB. Since we have about a dozen different e-mail accounts, it is desirable to be able to download all at once. Is there any way I can fix this problem without installing a backup of the host pc on to the old pc and new pc? -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on MS XP Pro SP3 and soon Windows 7. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: The Bat and Mac computing
Jens Franik Sent on Monday, August 17, 2009 3:52 PM so I would get something like VMware's Fusion that would allow me to do this. I wouldn't do this, check out http://www.virtualbox.org which is smaller, easier, faster and more stable (my opinion). Hi, Jens, Thanks. I will definitely look into this. -- Avi Avram L. Sacks Riverwoods, IL 60015 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Image insertion differences between TB and Outlook
Hi. Can anyone explain why jpeg files inserted into an outgoing e-mail message functions differently in The Bat and in Outlook. In The Bat, if I set up an outgoing message as HTML or HTML/print, and insert an image , the image being a jpeg file, recipients using Outlook as well as The Bat, will see the message embedded into the message itself. That is, the image will appear on the face of the message, without the need to click open an .html icon or any other icon. However, if I use the insert picture function in Outlook, I cannot get the image to appear on the face of an e-mail in either The Bat or in Outlook. In The Bat, an HTML icon will appear and that icon has to be clicked to open up the image. In Outlook, security settings prevent the picture from automatically appearing. Rather, one must right click the mouse and select download to get the image to appear; and, when it does appear, it is at a much lower resolution than what appeared when sent through The Bat. Why the difference? What is causing this? -- Avram Sacks Chicago using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on Windows XP Pro, sp2 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is it possible to adjust paragraph spacing in The Bat
Hi, Everyone. Primary question: Is there a way in which to adjust paragraph spacing (termed leading in the publishing world) on outgoing messages such that when a recipient who uses Outlook attempts to reply, all of his replies aren't forced into double spacing between paragraphs? Background and detail: When I send an HTML e-mail in The Bat, a recipient who reads it in Outlook will see, in terms of formatting, exactly what I sent. However, if the recipient hits reply, all of the line breaks become double line breaks. This can be annoying, particularly to someone who works/reads quickly, and doesn't want to waste time scrolling down any more than he has to. In order to avoid this, I must either send the message in plain text, or the recipient must reply in plain text. Is there a setting that can be changed so that when the recipient chooses to reply, s/he will not have to deal with an extra long message caused by this magical shift from single to double line breaks once the reply button. I am not sure that this is a problem with The Bat, so much as it is a problem with Outlook. However, I use Outlook (NOT Outlook Express) at the office (from where this message is sent) and cannot find a setting that would cause the spacing to increase between paragraphs when a message is replied to. Any ideas? -- Avi Avram Sacks using The Bat! 4.0.18 on Windows XP Pro sp2 (but not on this message) using Outlook MS Office 2003 (ver. 11.8206.8202) sp3 on XP Pro (for this message) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: moving mail account from one user acct to another user acct
Hi, Roelof, In response to my question about moving a mail account from one user's windows account to another user's window's account on the same computer, you wrote: 1. Login to Windows as user A. 2. Don't start TB 3. Start Regedit and delete this directory from the registry: 4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT 5. Move the one account ftrom user A to the mail directory of user B 6. Logoff as user A 7. Login to Windows as user B 8. Start TB 9. Add a new account, give it the name of A´s account. 10. Close TB 11. Logoff from Windows 12. Login as user A 13. Start TB 14. Set the mail directory to user B´s mail directory 15. Create new accounts 16. Name those new accounts the same as they have for user B 17. Now you´re done First, thank-you VERY much. [I LOVE this list! I am still waiting *days* for an answer from the support team of another, unrelated application in another matter.] I understand your instructions (which I have numbered) up through no. 13. However, I don't know how to set the mail directory to user B's mail directory. Can you elaborate? Secondly, what will be the practical consequence of setting the mail directory to user B's mail directory: Once I create new accounts in the instance of The Bat! that is running in user A's Windows account with the same name as they have for user B, does that then mean that both User A and User B will be able to see the same mail from within their own Window's user account? If the answer is yes, does this also include previous mail, or does it only include mail downloaded from this point forward? -- Avram L. Sacks Riverwoods, IL 60015 The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on Windows XP Pro, SP2. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: moving mail account from one user acct to another user acct
Hi, Luc, You responded to my question concerning the transfer of one mail account into another instance of the The Bat running in a separate Window user's account, and explained what Roelof meant by setting a mail directory to another's user's mail directory by writing : Options --- preferences --- System. That's where you define the mail directory. Thank you very much! I am at the office now, and am unable to do this at the moment, since I run The Bat on my home computer. However I will try out your suggestion when I get home. -- Your answer leads me to another question about using The Bat! on home networks which could be a separate thread, but which I will include here, for now: Last April I tried to set The Bat! up on a home network. Because I did not intend to keep mail on the mail server indefinitely, I used POP3 rather than IMAP, but set the mail server instructions to keep mail on the server for at least 14 days--long enough for mail to be downloaded on to both machines. The system was imperfect, however, since it meant cc'ing outgoing messages to myself to make sure I had a copy on both computers. Ultimately, the system would only work for mail on my own private domain. The system did not work for Gmail mail. Once one computer downloaded gmail mail, the other computer would no longer be able to download it. However, your answer, above gave me an idea. It seems to me that rather than try and create a self-contained version of my e-mail on both computers, perhaps it would be better to have one computer see the other computer's mail directory. (We will just lose some e-mail functionality while on vacation with the laptop, since new mail would only be available via webmail.) If I want more than one computer on a network to access the same mail directory, so that either computer user can read, compose, and delete mail, would I use Options --- preferences --- System on the second computer's running of The Bat! to point to the originating directory on the first computer? All the best, -- Avi Avram L. Sacks 2700 Lake Cook Road Riverwoods, IL 60015 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[5]: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hi, Stuart, On Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:49 AM, you wrote regarding my synchronization question: By leaving the mail on the server you do not need to sync except for Sent mail. When you connect to your email account with either machine it will download the mail that the current computer has not downloaded before. (Note: you must make sure that both computers are set up to leave mail on server.) To get sent mail you would need to CC or BCC yourself. If you plan on syncing the 2 computers anyway, then you do not need to leave messages on the server as it would serve no purpose. OK, thanks. I think I have a better picture of this now. Since I want to exactly duplicate on each computer what the other computer sees (including which messages are read and unread), it seems that I should leave both computers on and synch every night. However, if I leave messages on the server for at least 24 hours before deletion, then that will insure that messages downloaded in the morning to one computer can still be downloaded by the second computer in the afternoon and still read before the next synchronization takes place. This leads to my next question about synchronization: Assume desktop user Abe downloads e-mail in the morning: items a, b, and c are downloaded and Abe, in the morning, reads all messages and deletes items b and c from desktop. Assume laptop user Sara downloads the e-mail in the afternoon: items a, b, c, and d and Sara reads only item b and deletes nothing. Assume that a, b, c, and d will remain on server for 24 hours. At night, both the laptop and desktop synchronize. Here are my questions: 1. Will items b and c be deleted from the laptop or will they be added back to the desktop? 2. After synchronization, will item a appear as read on the laptop or revert to unread status on the desktop? If synchronization is invoked, is one computer designated a master such that however mail appears on THAT computer is controlling as to how it appears on the second computer, or is the process more complex? -- Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 (desktop) and ver 4.0.20 (laptop) on MS Windows Pro sp2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[3]: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hi, Dan and other list members: Although I have kept the same subject line, because the subject remains the same, a more appropriate title, at this point would be synchronization revisited. Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 10:20:39 PM, Dan Lester wrote: I keep two computers synchronized daily, morning and night, by using a little program (25 bucks I think) called Directory Toolkit. It does a host of other things, but I use it to synchronize a directory called all my stuff from one computer to another. I install TheBat!, all of its files, and half a dozen other programs into that directory. Then the program syncs from one to the other. OK. I have successfully installed The Bat on the laptop and I have also successfully set up on the laptop as its Mail directory, a copy of the same directory that is on the laptop. (Curiously, on the desktop that directory is in the The Bat! Folder within the program folder, while, on the laptop, it automatically established itself in the Applications Data directory.) I also changed settings so that whenever one machine downloads e-mail, it leaves it on the server for 14 days--a period that will be more than enough to insure that e-mail gets downloaded on to both. (Which, if I synchronize every night, I really wouldn't need to leave it on the server for more than 24 hours, I would think.) However, for synchronization, I can either use The Bat's own synchronization feature OR Dan Lester's recommendation to use the Directory Toolkit. Other than the fact that Directory Toolkit will allow me synchronize other folders, can anyone think of a reason why it is more preferable than The Bat's own synch function? Is there any reason why using The Bat's synch function might be preferred? Whether I synch using The Bat's own synch function or a third party software, what is it that I am synching? Is it merely the Mail directory? -- Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver 4.0.1.8 (desktop) or 4.0.2.0 (laptop) on Windows Pro XP sp2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FW: Re[3]: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
A typo on the note just sent to the list makes a sentence incomprehensible. I wrote, in error: OK. I have successfully installed The Bat on the laptop and I have also successfully set up on the laptop as its Mail directory, a copy of the same directory that is on the laptop. What I intended to write is the following: OK. I have successfully installed The Bat on the laptop and I have also successfully set up on the laptop as its Mail directory, a copy of the same MAIL directory that is on the DESKTOP. -- Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver 4.0.1.8 (desktop) or 4.0.2.0 (laptop) on Windows Pro XP sp2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[3]: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hi, Dan, Dan Lester wrote on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 at 9:59 AM: I keep two computers synchronized daily, morning and night, by using a little program (25 bucks I think) called Directory Toolkit. It does a host of other things, but I use it to synchronize a directory called all my stuff from one computer to another. I install TheBat!, all of its files, and half a dozen other programs into that directory. Then the program syncs from one to the other. Did you ever try the synchronize feature in The Bat? Why do you use this program rather than The Bat's own synchronizing feature? This program sounds great, particularly since I would like to do with another application (Adobe Photoshop Elements and Premier Elements) what I would like to do with the Bat. How long have you been using it, and do you encounter any firewall issues with it? When the program sunchronizes with The Bat, will it automatically reflect that a message read on the first computer appears as read on the second computer? How long have you been using the program? //Avi Avram Sacks Chicago Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
upgrading from ver 1.62r
Hello fellow listmates, As a long time user of The Bat, I have never found it necessary to upgrade. However, I no longer have tolerance for ver. 1.62r's lack of formatting functionality, and would also like to have more tagging options, so, its time to upgrade. In my current set-up, I have about six different e-mail accounts, with some of them having as many as a dozen different folders into which mail is automatically sorted. Many of these folders have tens of thousands of messages; a few have over 100,000. The Bat automatically compresses when it is closed. What should I do to insure as smooth a transition to the current version? When I upgrade, will I have to recreate all folders and filters? Will e-mail groups set up in my address book be lost upon upgrade? Will existing flags be lost with the upgrade? Will distinctions between read and unread messages be lost? What should I do to minimize the risk of loss of messages? Do I need to disable my firewall and anti-virus when installing the upgrade? Finally, one of the great assets of The Bat is that it has a small footprint and works very fast, much faster than the bloated program with which I am stuck using at the office. Will I experience a drastic reduction in speed, particularly with respect to message downloading, if I upgrade to the current version, given the greater functionality of the current version? -- Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver. 1.62r on Windows XP Professional, sp2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello fellow listmates: Old-timers will recall that 3-5 years ago I inquired as to the best way in which to use The Bat on more than one home computer. Some suggestions were posted, but I never followed through. However, with my intention to upgrade to the current version (see separate post) I am revisiting this issue. We have a desktop and a laptop. Currently, The Bat has been accessed only via the desktop. With the establishment of a second home office in the same house I would like to also access all of our e-mail from The laptop as well. How is this best done so that mail can be downloaded by either machine without the other losing access to either old or new mail? I would also like to be able to download mail on the laptop when it is away from home, and either later merge that mail with the mail on the desktop, or, in the alternative, download the mail without deleting it from the mail server so that the desktop can also download the mail. It seems to me that there are several options: 1. Install the new version of The Bat on both the laptop AND the desktop (are two licenses needed?), but then set up the mail folder on the desktop as a shared folder so that the laptop's The Bat will point to folder on the desktop. Is this possible? When The Bat opens up on the laptop, it will automatically display the messages that are on the desktop. If messages are sent or downloaded via the Laptop, the actual message content would be stored on the desktop. Again, is this possible? Finally, when traveling, the laptop could download messages, but upon returning home, the messages would either be copied to the desktop, or the download would be done in such a way that messages would be left on the server for later downloading by the desktop. 2. Install the new version of The Bat on both the laptop AND the desktop, but also copy all mail from the desktop to the laptop so that both computers have all mail on their hard drives. Allow either machine to download e-mail, but set up some sort of automatic synchronization between the two machines. Again, is this possible? If so, how would it be done? -- Avram Sacks Chicago Using ver 1.62r on Windows XP professional sp2. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: e-mailing from within Photoshop Elements 5.0 and The Bat
Regarding the sending of photographs via e-mail using Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0 in conjunction with The Bat, Richard Newman wrote on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:57 PM: You have to save them as files and then attach the files by hand. In preferences, set E-mail Client to Save to Hard Disk and Attach File(s) Yourself. Choose your pictures, go to File -- Export -- As New File or (CTRL + E). Thanks, Richard. I found something within Adobe late last night that is similar. Setting the e-mail preferences is key. Then, once I have a group of pictures that I want to send, I go to File--- E-mail A pop up then allows me to send the pictures at the size and quality I designate to a file in the Adobe/e-mail attachments subdirectory. Thanks, again. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
e-mailing from within Photoshop Elements 5.0 and The Bat
Hello, fellow Bat users! I have Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0. Can anyone familiar with this software explain to me how I can use or configure the software to e-mail, using The Bat, a group of selected photographs to a group of recipients. Photoshop appears to be set up to work with Outlook, Outlook Express, and Eudora, but I have been unable to find an explanation as to how to get it to work with other e-mail clients, such as The Bat. Navigating from within The Bat to the image files on my hard drive in order to attach the files, directly, would not only be too time-consuming, those files are too big for e-mail transmission (1-3 megabytes per image) and would have to be individually compressed, also very time-consuming. -- Avram Sacks Chicago, IL Using The Bat ver. 1.62r on Windows XP Pro Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: mailing to a group name
In response to my question aboutn setting up an e-mail group that would allow me to send mail by just typing the group name in the to field, Marck Pearlstone replied with two suggestions: ...create a local email address of (say) [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put that in the To: field. I then put the recipient list into the BCC: field. ... or ... adapt Leif Gregory's Using TB to run a mailing list to suit? http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml; Thanks for both suggestions. The first one will accomplish what I want, but isn't so elegant. On the other hand, Leif's document is more oriented towards creating a discussion group list. Although he suggests using some of the filters to set up a distribution list, for my purposes, this would require far more time than I have to put into this. I know that both Lotus Notes and Outlook allow for e-mail groups to be created very easily, without placing any addresses in the bcc field. (Just creat a new group and add the addresses to the list in the create-a-group box.) Hopefully, the Bat will have that functionality at some point. Again, thanks, -- Avi Avram Sacks Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: mailing to a group name
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 at 12:50:23 -0500, Avram wrote: I know that both Lotus Notes and Outlook allow for e-mail groups to be created very easily, without placing any addresses in the bcc field. To which Robin Anson replied on Monday, November 27, 2006 4:49 PM: But all the addresses need to be in one of the addressee fields, otherwise the email servers between you and the recipients won't know where the email is to go. Even if you use a distribution list in Outlook, it will insert the individual email addresses into the email itself when it is sent. This is not what I have seen at the company for which I work, which uses Lotus Notes and Outlook. In LN and in Outlook, when the group name is place in the to field, that is the name seen by the recipient--not the individual e-mail adresses. In Outlook, the group name is also seen by the recipient, however, the recipient can click on a + sign next to the group name and expand the group to the individual recipients' addresses. However, it just occurred to me that my experience with group names in both Outlook and LN has been with internal mail and it may be that an outside recipient WOULD see the individual e-mail addresses. I'll have to test this. -- Avi Avram Sacks Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Upgrade?
Mary Bull on Monday, September 04, 2006 at 4:25 PM wrote, in response to a post by Jack S. LaRosa on TBUDL that asked about downloading the latest version without having to shell out any more money: Yes, go ahead and get v. 3.85.01. So long as we are in the 3.xx series, your current registration number is good. [snip] We had to pay for the upgrade (at a discount) from the 2.xx series to the 3.xx series. I expect that when and if 4.xx comes along, there'll be an upgrade charge then. My question is, Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released? If I upgrade now will I have to shell out more $$$ in a short while (say, within 12 months) because of a ver. 4 upgrade? -- Avi Still using The Bat, ver. 1.62r on Win XP Pro SP2 If it ain't broke, don't fix it Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
