.MSG files
I seem to be collecting more and more .MSG files in my default attachments folder. I've searched TB's help system and none of the hits for MSG seem to have anything to do with these files. They seem to contain email message bodies, and therefore that are, by definition, *NOT ATTACHMENTS* ! ! ! So I must ask: 1. Why are they collecting in my attachments folder? 2. How do I stop TB from doing this silly thing? 3. If I delete these .MSG files, will I lose access to the body of the message from inside TB, or does it save another copy somewhere else (as it should be doing)? (The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of the message bodies, but attachments as well, so one would assume the neither the body NOR the attachment is lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) Please help, a directory with many thousands of files in it is nearly unusable in Windows XP (too [EMAIL PROTECTED]$ SLOW!). Thanks! ? -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
Hello Steven, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:03 -0400 GMT (08/09/2006, 19:07 +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: SPV I seem to be collecting more and more .MSG files SPV in my default attachments folder. I've searched TB's help SPV system and none of the hits for MSG seem to have anything SPV to do with these files. They seem to contain email message SPV bodies, and therefore that are, by definition, *NOT SPV ATTACHMENTS* ! ! ! So I must ask: SPV 1. Why are they collecting in my attachments folder? This would usually only happen if these .msg files are attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? SPV 2. How do I stop TB from doing this silly thing? Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) SPV 3. If I delete these .MSG files, will I lose access to SPVthe body of the message from inside TB, or does it SPVsave another copy somewhere else (as it should be SPVdoing)? The message body is stored in the .tbb file, but it may be an empty message, if my theory about those being forwards is correct. SPV(The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of SPVthe message bodies, but attachments as well, so one SPVwould assume the neither the body NOR the attachment SPVis lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) You seem to be storing the attachments in the Attachments directory, so those will be lost if you delete the files. SPV Please help, a directory with many thousands of files in SPV it is nearly unusable in Windows XP (too [EMAIL PROTECTED]$ SLOW!). Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading the message bodies. -- Cheers, Thomas. Rechnen Sie mit robotron! Unsere Mikroelektronik ist einfach nicht klein zu kriegen! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
Hallo Steven, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:03 -0400GMT (8-9-2006, 14:07 , where I live), you wrote: SPV(The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of SPVthe message bodies, but attachments as well, so one SPVwould assume the neither the body NOR the attachment SPVis lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) This implies that you're not storing your attachments in an attachment folder. Are you putting your attachments in that directory with a filter? If so could that filter (or maybe another one) export your messages to that directory too? -- Groetjes, Roelof Love is chemistry; sex is mechanical engineering. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaIbmDy6Bza.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: .MSG files
Roelof, Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:33:13 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Steven, RO On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:03 -0400GMT (8-9-2006, 14:07 , where I live), RO you wrote: SPV(The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of SPVthe message bodies, but attachments as well, so one SPVwould assume the neither the body NOR the attachment SPVis lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) RO This implies that you're not storing your attachments in an attachment RO folder. Are you putting your attachments in that directory with a RO filter? If so could that filter (or maybe another one) export your RO messages to that directory too? I was storing all attachments to the same folder (C:\Download\Attachments). The .MSG files appear to be plain printable ASCII and contain an entire message BODY, plus all HEADERS. I'd really like to find out why TB thinks it should save all my email message bodies in my attachments folder. -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: .MSG files
Thomas, Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:27:15 AM, you wrote: TF This would usually only happen if these .msg files are TF attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you TF didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. The files look like plain printable ASCII of the complete message header and body -- minus any attachment(s). TF Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? Not that I'm aware of. TF Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments TF in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) I didn't find that setting under Options. In my version it has moved to 'Files directories' ... but I changed it anyway, to see what happens. TF Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary TF directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. TF Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading TF the message bodies. Good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. I'll give it a try. -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: .MSG files
SPV Thomas, SPV Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:27:15 AM, you wrote: TF This would usually only happen if these .msg files are TF attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you TF didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. SPV The files look like plain printable ASCII of the complete SPV message header and body -- minus any attachment(s). TF Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? SPV Not that I'm aware of. TF Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments TF in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) SPV I didn't find that setting under Options. In my version it SPV has moved to 'Files directories' ... but I changed it SPV anyway, to see what happens. TF Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary TF directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. TF Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading TF the message bodies. SPV Good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. I'll give it SPV a try. I tried a few things: moving the .MSG files does not seem to have affected my ability to read the bodies of recent messages that I didn't want to lose. GOOD I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting to 'in message bodies' and send myself a message from my RoadRunner account using their web mail. No .MSG file appeared. I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting back to 'in a separate directory' and sent myself another message from my RoadRunner account. Still no .MSG file. Apparently, these must be some sort of unnamed attachment or something (since TB names them all using an 8 digit sequential number.MSG) that is coming in with some (or most?) of the SPAM I am receiving. If the TB developers are reading this, it sure would be nice if I could define my own list of attachment types to save or NOT save. Better yet, have both options and allow the user to choose which way to go: list the only extension types to be saved OR save all EXCEPT the listed extension types. Heck, maybe even a file type table allowing different extensions to be saved (or not) to different folders! I know, I'm probably asking too much, but what the heck, the worst they can do is nothing, right? smile Thanks for the ideas. I guess I'll just manually delete all the stupid .MSG as often as I notice them. -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
Hello Steven, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:02:41 -0400 GMT (08/09/2006, 23:02 +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: TF This would usually only happen if these .msg files are TF attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you TF didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. SPV The files look like plain printable ASCII of the complete SPV message header and body -- minus any attachment(s). With what you say below, I think my assumption was right that these were MIME-attached messages. TF Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? SPV Not that I'm aware of. You mention spam later on - this may be the source of the MIME-attached messages. TF Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments TF in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) SPV I didn't find that setting under Options. In my version it SPV has moved to 'Files directories' ... Yes, sorry, my bad. SPV but I changed it anyway, to see what happens. TF Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary TF directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. TF Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading TF the message bodies. SPV Good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. I'll give it SPV a try. SPV I tried a few things: moving the .MSG files does not seem to SPV have affected my ability to read the bodies of recent messages SPV that I didn't want to lose. GOOD OK. SPV I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting to 'in message bodies' SPV and send myself a message from my RoadRunner account using their SPV web mail. No .MSG file appeared. Good. SPV I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting back to 'in a separate SPV directory' and sent myself another message from my RoadRunner SPV account. Still no .MSG file. Still good. SPV Apparently, these must be some sort of unnamed attachment or SPV something (since TB names them all using an 8 digit sequential SPV number.MSG) that is coming in with some (or most?) of the SPAM SPV I am receiving. I would think so too. SPV If the TB developers are reading this, it sure would be nice if SPV I could define my own list of attachment types to save or NOT SPV save. Better yet, have both options and allow the user to choose SPV which way to go: list the only extension types to be saved OR SPV save all EXCEPT the listed extension types. This may be possible with Incoming filters, I didn't check. -- Cheers, Thomas. This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us. -- Western Union internal memo, 1876. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 at 12:02:41 -0400, Steven wrote: Apparently, these must be some sort of unnamed attachment or something (since TB names them all using an 8 digit sequential number.MSG) that is coming in with some (or most?) of the SPAM I am receiving. You didn't at some stage export a folder of messages in .msg format into that directory, perhaps unintentionally? That would leave you with a directory full of files like that. If you did, the files would all have the same creation date. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing from archived of .msg files
Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Paul Meathrel wrote:
I have a really old file ('95) with the extension .pst which I would
like to importing into TB.
The least costly way is if you have access to Outlook Explorer.
You can use the Import Wizard of OE (File-Import-Messages) from the
pst-file. From there, it should be possible to import them into TB using
TB's Mailbox Import Wizard (Tools-Import Messages-Mailbox Import
Wizard).
If that doesn't work, there are pay-tools such as Aid4Mail
http://www.aid4mail.com or MailNavigator
http://www.mailnavigator.com
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Importing from archived of .msg files
Hi all,
I have a really old file ('95) with the extension .pst which I would like to
importing into TB. The file is text and if I open it in a text editor I can see
that it is a bunch of mail messages (in .msg/.eml format) separated by a dot.
So the format looks like this:
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
etc
I can import the messages if I split them out into individual files saving as
.msg as I go. However this will take forever to do unless I can find a way to
import it automatically. I've tried to use the import wizard using UNIX format,
however this says no messages imported. Does anyone have any ideas about how I
could achieve this?
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Re: Importing from archived of .msg files
Paul Meathrel @ 2005-Jul-27 5:31:31 PM
Importing from archived of .msg files mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a really old file ('95) with the extension .pst which I would
like to importing into TB. The file is text and if I open it in a
text editor I can see that it is a bunch of mail messages (in
.msg/.eml format) separated by a dot. So the format looks like this:
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
Mail message (.msg)
.
etc
I can import the messages if I split them out into individual files
saving as .msg as I go. However this will take forever to do unless
I can find a way to import it automatically. I've tried to use the
import wizard using UNIX format, however this says no messages
imported. Does anyone have any ideas about how I could achieve this?
Try http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Outlook-to-Unix-Mailbox.html
If that doesn't work, send my the PST file and I can write a program
to convert it to a Unix mailbox (maybe).
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Re[2]: Thousands of .MSG files?
Andrew, Monday, December 6, 2004, 3:15:12 PM, you wrote: A I'll let others answer the rest, but do you not have checked A Delete Attached Messages when a Message is Deleted from the A Trash folder In Options Files Directories? This way, A when you delete your spam, the attachments, if any, go as A well? Once upon a time, I'm sure I had that set, but it was no set when I checked in response to your comment. However, my issue is kind of the opposite problem... There are meny messages that I want to keep around (some for many YEARS) without losing the bodies. If those bodies are only stored externally as .MSG files in the same folder where all the other attachments are kept, this is a problem. It makes keeping the attachments folder clean a rather large PITA. I actually solved my SPAM attachment issue when I discovered that my SPAM filter could cause all of those attachments to be saved in a special folder. However, the BODIES of all SPAM are being saved as .MSG files in my PRIMARY attachment folder. I think this was caused by the addition of SPAMASSASSIN on my mail server, which packages probable SPAM as an attachment to an analysis of the message. But for some reason, all the .EML, GIF, PNG, JPG, etc. go in the special SPAM attachment folder I set up with a filter, but the .MSG files DO NOT. Argh. -- Steve Valliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Thousands of .MSG files?
--- Steve VaValliereththebat-visions.com wrote: However, my issue is kind of the opposite problem... There are memenyessages that I want to keep around (some for many YEARS) without losing the bodies. If those bodies are only stored externally as .MSG files in the same folder where all the other attachments are kept, this is a problem. It makes keeping the attachments folder clean a rather large PITA. hmhmm The only thing that comes to mind isn't pretty, and should be tested, first, of course, and yes, very PITA. ;) a) Export those messages with attachments you want to keep to Unix style mailboxes. b) Make sure your new mail settings keep attachments in the message bodies (for the next step) c) Import the messages into a new folder. This should make them part of the tbb file, I would think, instead of external attachments D) delete all those old messages and the messages you don't want, and the attachments should go with them. *But I would back everything up first in case it goes horribly wrong* Not sure how this will work if there is a .msg inside a .msg inside a .msg like you get with Forwarded jokes, but embedded attachments are meant to be embedded attachments... A small test should decide whether this cures, helps, or does nothing to help you with your situtation. Set up a second bogus e-mail account as aprt of your test, and import into that, since it will have its own attach folder to inspect and review. Moving between folders didn't work (I did a quick test and looked into the tbb files, the mail keeps the original reference, eg. X-Content-File: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\MY_ISP_A\Attach\IMAGE0013.JPG even though I moved it to the MY_ISP_B inbox. That's the only thing that comes to my mind, perhaps someone else has a better idea, but.. I think I know what you may doing ALL day Saturday! -- Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thousands of .MSG files?
This is probably easy to fix, but I've not been able to locate a setting for it anywhere... Sometime before I upgraded to tb3.01 (but while I was trying out beta versions of tb2.xx) I started getting large numbers of .MSG files in my 'attachments' folder. (A) Can I safely delete these without losing the bodies of messages I want to save? (B) If not, how do I tell The Bat! to keep the bodies with the messages instead of on disk? (C) If so, then how do I tell The Bat! to stop crapping on my disk drive? If no one's noticed, explorer isn't very fast when there are 20,000+ files in a folder... (and before you ask, yes, I get far, far too much SPAM). -- Steven P Valliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thousands of .MSG files?
Steven P Valliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If no one's noticed, explorer isn't very fast when there are 20,000+ files in a folder... (and before you ask, yes, I get far, far too much SPAM). I'll let others answer the rest, but do you not have checked Delete Attached Messages when a Message is Deleted from the Trash folder In Options Files Directories? This way, when you delete your spam, the attachments, if any, go as well? Been my experience that by having the attachments stored externally that I can find/search them better and that the bat reacts very quickly since the mailbase is smaller. In any case, in the same location you will find the dropdown list that parses out the attachments (Keep Attachment Files option). Also a setting to bind attachments for sent mail. (I messed up an earlier install when I was first starting out, as near as I can tell, TB still knows that the e-mail is supposed to have an attachment, but all the sizes are 0 bytes. Let others confirm this or maybe even a better solution, just my anectodal observations). -- Hope this helps, Andrew Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hi TBUDL, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, at 10:44:55 [GMT +0100] you wrote: MG Perhaps this works: save the original message as .EML and attach that MG file to a new message which you'd sent to your recipient. When the Bat MG saves a file as EML _or_ MSG the content is the same. It is just that MG other mail programs are pickier about the file name extension. Yes this has worked Thank you very much. Ironic that we have found a way for The Bat to propagate horrible HTML messages. Anyway my Mums chuffed Thanks -- Pure E-mail with The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Unfortunately I'm writing this without the aid of music Thought for the day Our destiny exercises its influence over us even when, as yet, we have not learned its nature: it is our future that lays down the law of our today. __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hi, Richard Evans wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I thought .msg was an internet standard ? No, Internet standards and file name extensions are not connected. Yet, the file's contents should follow the 'standard' RFC-822 (and related RFCs). if not any ideas about how to forward html mails to outlook users in one piece ? Perhaps this works: save the original message as .EML and attach that file to a new message which you'd sent to your recipient. When the Bat saves a file as EML _or_ MSG the content is the same. It is just that other mail programs are pickier about the file name extension. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Thomas- Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 6:52:23 PM, you wrote: TF Yes, but since when does OL care about standards? ;-))) When there's $$$ involved? -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Is it possible to use the Alternative Forward method only for selected contacts in my address book ? I ask because my Mother (you may remember her, she exchanges lots of funnies with her friends HTML animated Gifs etc. She switched to the Bat and is very happy but has problems when she forwards these abominations) has a friend whom I believe is using Outlook on XP who insists she cannot open .msg files. I set my Mums Bat to always forward using .msg but this friend wants her to forward in line. Can anyone offer any advice that I can forward to help her open .msg files because If Mum starts using non mime forwarding all her funnies will end up as just a series of attachments and the rest of her friends will complain. P.S. I am always always trying to convince people that HTML mail is the spawn of the devil __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hi, Richard Evans wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : My Mother [...] has a friend whom I believe is using Outlook on XP who insists she cannot open .msg files. I think the problem might be just the extension. If they are named .eml they might be openable. Yet, I don't know how to convince the Bat to name the forwarded files .eml, sorry. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hi TBUDL, On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, at 18:34:50 [GMT +0100] you wrote: MG I think the problem might be just the extension. If they are named MG .eml they might be openable. Yet, I don't know how to convince the Bat MG to name the forwarded files .eml, sorry. I thought .msg was an internet standard ? if not any ideas about how to forward html mails to outlook users in one piece ? -- Pure E-mail with The Bat! v1.62/Beta16 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Unfortunately I'm writing this without the aid of music Thought for the day Without music, life would be a mistake. __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 at 17:06:53 + (GMT) Richard Evans wrote: Is it possible to use the Alternative Forward method only for selected contacts in my address book ? By alternative forward I guess you mean not to use MIME standard for forwarding, right? (From your description, you use MIME forwarding by default, though that's not TB's default setting.) As the setting is a per-account setting, I guess there's no way to get around it for a specific contact other that setting up another account (in TB) for that purpose. (I might be wrong, since I've been away from TBUDL for so long, my knowledge is definitely outdated.) Should I be right, the simple way is to set up an address book entry for that recipient, and define a special forward template for it (use %TEXT or %QUOTE to quote the original message text). It's not exactly elegant, for the use MIME... setting at the account level is still in effect, so the recipient will get the forwarded content both in the message body and as an .msg attachment. But at least it gets the job done. If there's a more elegant solution, I'm sure the more experienced people will jump in soon. :-) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 | WinXP SP-1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hello Richard, On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:31:46 + GMT (04/12/02, 05:31 +0700 GMT), Richard Evans wrote: MG I think the problem might be just the extension. If they are named MG .eml they might be openable. Yet, I don't know how to convince the Bat MG to name the forwarded files .eml, sorry. I thought .msg was an internet standard ? (I don't know the answer really, but I cannot resist to answer anyway.) Yes, but since when does OL care about standards? ;-))) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he was God and I didn't. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
