Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-07-03 Thread Greg Strong
Hello subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrote:

s I
s liked Greg's description of how-to and thought it a great function.
s He didn't chime in when I asked the initial question, so either he
s is/wa very busy and didn't see it or thought Hey, I don't want to
s rehash it.

I do know they changed the header name at some point in time.  Is there
a Reply-To.  If yes, then give that a try.  If you replying to a
message way down in a thread, you should see a whole bunch of message
IDs.


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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-07-03 Thread Greg Strong
Hello subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrote:

s I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is
s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering
s how does RIT price all these upgrades?  What I mean is ... every time
s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade?

NO!!!  Obviously I assume you have paid for a V2 license.

Download and simply install over older version. You will probably see
the header change to Follow-up.


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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-07-03 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Terry,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 1:30:26 PM, Terry G. Munson wrote:

TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00.

I think you are correct, so my earlier post was incorrect. Whatever!


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Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Cyrille
Hello Subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:17:21 AM, you wrote:

 Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
 Follow-up menu selection was offered.  Oh well ... not a biggy to me
 as I can always just create a new message with new subject field
 content, but what Greg described seemed a very handy, dandy thing to
 learn to do ... but, alas, I have failed ... to comprehend something
 or ... Follow-up is not an option with The Bat! Version 2.0 AFAICT.

You can edit the 'Follow-up' header whenever you are editing a
message:

1) At the top of your editor window you see the editable headers like
   'From:', 'CC:', 'Subject'.

2) If you can not find between these headers there the 'Follow-up'
   header, simply right-click on any of the other header titles
   (on the title at the left, not on the field itself).

3) The context menu which opens gives you the possibilities to show
   (and to hide) 12 different headers. Among them you find also the
   'Follow-up' header.

4) If you click on 'Follow-up' in this context menu, the 'Follow-up'
   header will be shown as an editable header field like 'From:', 'CC:',
   'Subject', etc.

5) In case you are writing a new message this new field will simply be
   empty. In case you reply or forward a message, TB will
   automatically put in the field the message ID of the message you
   reply to (or you forward) and the IDs of the other messages which
   have been in the 'References' header of the message you reply to
   (or you forward).

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Re: Common courtesy on threading!

2004-06-30 Thread Adam

Hello subscriber2list,

Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:47:21 PM, you wrote:

s I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject
s field to read This is only a test 

s Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
s Follow-up menu selection was offered.  Oh well ...

Ok. That would be different then.

On mine, I can see

 From:
at the top
and these two at the bottom:

 Follow up:
 Return-path:

On mine, I can see 12 header items listed in this menu. How many for you?

Cyrille has revealed that this list is available in at least two
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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Cyrille,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 5:19:14 AM, you wrote:

C Hello Subscriber2list,

C Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:17:21 AM, you wrote:

 Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
 Follow-up menu selection was offered.  Oh well ... not a biggy to me
 as I can always just create a new message with new subject field
 content, but what Greg described seemed a very handy, dandy thing to
 learn to do ... but, alas, I have failed ... to comprehend something
 or ... Follow-up is not an option with The Bat! Version 2.0 AFAICT.

C You can edit the 'Follow-up' header whenever you are editing a
C message:

C 1) At the top of your editor window you see the editable headers like
C'From:', 'CC:', 'Subject'.

By editor window here, I assume you mean the window that resulted
from my hitting the Reply selection.

C 2) If you can not find between these headers there the 'Follow-up'
Cheader, simply right-click on any of the other header titles
C(on the title at the left, not on the field itself).

I right-clicked on all of the header titles (not the fields
themselves) one by one and got the same result ... a context menu did
open giving me a list of 14 possibilities ... along with the option
selection to Edit Headers.

C 3) The context menu which opens gives you the possibilities to show
C(and to hide) 12 different headers. Among them you find also the
C'Follow-up' header.

No Follow-up possibility was in the context menu of possibilities.
Nor do I quite understand the show and hide reference, but suspect
that is applicable to the newer version releases.  I am using an older
version of The Bat!, Version 2.0.0 (from the About option) (will have
to look for specific other numbers, if needed).

C 4) If you click on 'Follow-up' in this context menu, the 'Follow-up'
Cheader will be shown as an editable header field like 'From:', 'CC:',
C'Subject', etc.

Again, not available to click on.

C 5) In case you are writing a new message this new field will simply be
Cempty. In case you reply or forward a message, TB will
Cautomatically put in the field the message ID of the message you
Creply to (or you forward) and the IDs of the other messages which
Chave been in the 'References' header of the message you reply to
C(or you forward).

Possible of note, is I selected the Edit Headers of the context menu
and it displayed The Bat! -Preferences window with Message Headers
highlighted.  In this window it listed all the header info that makes
up the context menu and a few more.  One of the headers listed, but
not displayed in the context menu is Message-ID ... having entry of NO
to both Address List and Editor (the other three not listed are
Mailer, Date Created, Date Received).

I mention Message-ID as it seems it should come into play when one
changes the Subject field somehow ... if I remember correctly from
reading a few other messages.

Oh well ... Cyrille, thanks for your very gracious and detailed help.
Pretty good steps to follow.  BTW, my Dad's name was Cyrille ;)

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Re[2]: Common courtesy on threading!

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Adam,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:57:09 AM, you wrote:


A Hello subscriber2list,

A Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:47:21 PM, you wrote:

s I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject
s field to read This is only a test 

s Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
s Follow-up menu selection was offered.  Oh well ...

A Ok. That would be different then.

Yup.

A On mine, I can see

A  From:
A at the top
A and these two at the bottom:

A  Follow up:
A  Return-path:

A On mine, I can see 12 header items listed in this menu. How many for you?

On my context menu I had 14 header items along with an Edit Headers
option which opened up The Bat! - Preference window displaying Message
Headers info.  Pretty slick overall!

A Cyrille has revealed that this list is available in at least two
A places.

Yes, I just finished reading his very thorough description and
responded a wee bit ago.

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:54 PM, you wrote:

S Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
S Follow-up menu selection was offered

Now that you've been through all the trial-and-error possibilities,
I'll chime in with my experience. When I was running TB! v. 2.00.6, I
had no Follow Up headers option offered anywhere.

It was with considerable shock, in a long thread on tbot, that I saw
Greg's handy routine.

Skeptical, I gave it a try, and it did work. In fact, once I ticked
the Follow Up option, that header remained in my Edit Mail Message
window whenever I was replying to a message. The line was occupied by
the ID display header in the View Folder window.

Sometimes I untick it, just to save my viewing headers space.

I think it's probably now definite that versions 2.00.0 through 2.00.6
do not contain these options.

I stayed there for a long time, perfectly happy. Finally took the
plunge and upgraded. That went smooth as silk--just downloaded right
over my old TB! With The Bat! closed, of course.

If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to
all 2.xx users.

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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:54:48 AM, you wrote:

 Again, not available to click on.

I think follow up would be references in version 2.00.

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Cyrille
Hello Subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 7:54:48 PM, you wrote:

C 3) The context menu which opens gives you the possibilities to show
C(and to hide) 12 different headers. Among them you find also the
C'Follow-up' header.

 No Follow-up possibility was in the context menu of possibilities.
 Nor do I quite understand the show and hide reference, but suspect
 that is applicable to the newer version releases.  I am using an older
 version of The Bat!, Version 2.0.0

 Oh well ... Cyrille, thanks for your very gracious and detailed help.
 Pretty good steps to follow.  BTW, my Dad's name was Cyrille ;)

I am not your Dad. But I give you the advice to upgrade to the latest
version (2.11.02). Don't be afraid it does not hurt (only a little
bit).

P.S If your Dad had such I nice name, why did he call you
'subscriber2list' then???  (-:

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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Cyrille,

snip

 No Follow-up possibility was in the context menu of possibilities.
 Nor do I quite understand the show and hide reference, but suspect
 that is applicable to the newer version releases.  I am using an older
 version of The Bat!, Version 2.0.0

 Oh well ... Cyrille, thanks for your very gracious and detailed help.
 Pretty good steps to follow.  BTW, my Dad's name was Cyrille ;)

C I am not your Dad. But I give you the advice to upgrade to the latest
C version (2.11.02). Don't be afraid it does not hurt (only a little
C bit).

LMAO!  Good advice, but I've never been one to have to have the
latest and greatest ... only the more tested, true and stable is
what I would like.  Heck, The Bat! people have seemed to put out more
versions in a shorter period of time than a blink of an eye!  Here's
hoping they don't rush too fast with all those wild and wonderful
newfangle features and functionality releases as it is a very good
product overall IMHO. Then again, they do have a huge number of field
testers around the world, right?  LOL!  Your folks comments will give
me a hint when to upgrade.

C P.S If your Dad had such I nice name, why did he call you
C 'subscriber2list' then???  (-:

Well, that's a loong story, but to cut to the chase, he gave my
brother the English version of Cyrille, i.e., Cyril.  I use the
subscriber2list handle and others to sort of figure out potentially
where SPAM may come from as I subscribe to many other list as well.
My name is Dirigo.

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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:09:26 PM, you wrote:

MB Hello subscriber2list!

MB On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:54 PM, you wrote:

S Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
S Follow-up menu selection was offered

MB Now that you've been through all the trial-and-error possibilities,
MB I'll chime in with my experience. When I was running TB! v. 2.00.6, I
MB had no Follow Up headers option offered anywhere.

Oooh, thanks for the input ... you must have been chuckling there for
awhile, but, Mary ... you could have saved me and others bandwidth and
grey matter.  LOL!  Just kidding 'ya!

MB It was with considerable shock, in a long thread on tbot, that I saw
MB Greg's handy routine.

Well, I guess I should have been over on the tbot thread, huh?  I
liked Greg's description of how-to and thought it a great function.
He didn't chime in when I asked the initial question, so either he
is/wa very busy and didn't see it or thought Hey, I don't want to
rehash it.

MB Skeptical, I gave it a try, and it did work. In fact, once I ticked
MB the Follow Up option, that header remained in my Edit Mail Message
MB window whenever I was replying to a message. The line was occupied by
MB the ID display header in the View Folder window.

Great!

MB Sometimes I untick it, just to save my viewing headers space.

Understand ... save the screen real estate.

 MB I think it's probably now definite that versions 2.00.0 through
 MB 2.00.6 do not contain these options.

 I think you're probably correct here.
 
MB I stayed there for a long time, perfectly happy. Finally took the
MB plunge and upgraded. That went smooth as silk--just downloaded right
MB over my old TB! With The Bat! closed, of course.

Well, good for you!  I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is
In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering
how does RIT price all these upgrades?  What I mean is ... every time
there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade?  It
would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period
of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software
houses.

MB If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to
MB all 2.xx users.

I'm not quite sure I understand ... the handy routine is free if I
upgrade?  Do I pay for the actual upgrade, i.e., from Version 2.00.x
to Version 2.11.x?  I would think so, but since I haven't been into
upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know.

Hey, next time you see where I'm digging myself into a hole here ...
please yell a wee bit earlier and ... pull me out.

Thanks, Mary.  I really do appreciate your comments and what you have
experienced with your past versions of The Bat!  It is a good product
and I do like it.  Kind of a fun product to me.  It opens up so many
opportunities to ask so many questions.  Take care.

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Re[3]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 8:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrotened:


subscriber2list Well,  I  guess  I  should have been over on the tbot
subscriber2list thread, huh?

You  were asking a question about how to use the bat.. Seemed on topic
for this list.


subscriber2list how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is
subscriber2list ...  every time there is a new release, does one have
subscriber2list to pay for the upgrade?

MB If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to
MB all 2.xx users.

subscriber2list I'm not quite sure I understand ...
subscriber2list the handy routine is free if I
subscriber2list upgrade?  Do I pay for the actual
subscriber2list upgrade, i.e., from Version 2.00.x
subscriber2list to Version 2.11.x?  I would think
subscriber2list so, but since I haven't been into
subscriber2list upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know.

 The only time i had to pay to upgrade was when the bat went from 1.xx
 to  2.xx.  All  the other times i have upgrade it has been free... it
 will  be  for  you  too. If you upgrade from 2.00.x to 2.11.x or even
 2.12.x  it  is  FREE.  no charge. Ritlabs dont charge for these minor
 upgrades.  They  try  and  use  these  update  for  bug fixes and new
 functions.


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Re[3]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Terry,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:30:26 PM, you wrote:

TGM Hello subscriber2list,

TGM Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:54:48 AM, you wrote:

 Again, not available to click on.

TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00.

I think you're right-on based upon the earlier test message I sent.  I used 
References and esentially followed the steps enumerated by Greg (and Cyrille).  I 
viewed the source of the outgoing modified test email and saw where those referenced 
Message-IDs had been removed (as I had actually deleted them from the Reference field 
in test message).

It appeared to accomplish what Greg originally described in regards to Follow-up.

Unless I hear differently young man (assuming you're younger than I) ... thanks a 
bunch!

Note: this is a reply to your earlier message with everything in its original state 
except ... I have included the References field ... with the message-ids displayed.


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Re[4]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:42:32 PM, you wrote:

 Unless I hear differently young man (assuming you're younger than
 I) ... thanks a bunch!

Only if you were born before 1960. ;-)

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19 PM, you wrote:

s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering
s how does RIT price all these upgrades?  What I mean is ... every time
s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade?  It
s would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period
s of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software
s houses.

To cut to the chase: Anyone upgrading from a v. 1.x to a v. 2.x has to
pay. (They gave the v. 1.x users a discount for awhile. Not sure if
that's still in effect.)

Anyone upgrading from a 2.x to a later version does *not* have to pay.
Sorry about the ambiguous construction of my sentence in the post
you're replying to, where I said, It's free.  :)  Upgrading from v.
2.00.x to any subsequent version is definitely free. Including to the
latest (current) one: v. 2.11.02

I myself have had no problems using v. 2.11.02. Some people have, but
they were mostly with using IMAP and I'm POP3. My copy of v. 2.11.02
has been completely reliable and stable.

I just ignore the new features which I don't understand. It's entirely
feasible to do that. So I don't use any Virtual Folders, and I never
did use any color groups (although these were available long ago in
earlier versions).

The features I like are:

1) Viewing mail on the Mail Dispatcher before downloading
2) Address Book templates
3) Quick templates
4) Making filters--once a slight learning curve is mastered

I would dearly love to banter with you here, but I already have too
bad a reputation for long posts.

I didn't hang back from this thread out of a desire to be mean. I just
felt shy, in case I didn't fully understand what was being talked
about. I also have a pretty good reputation for getting my foot in my
mouth, here and elsewhere. :) And for rambling and getting OT.

Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT?

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Re[5]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Terry,

snip

 Unless I hear differently young man (assuming you're younger than
 I) ... thanks a bunch!

TGM Only if you were born before 1960. ;-)

LOL!  Yup ... way back ... push 'em back ... well, may be not that far
back .. 1945 or there abouts ...

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Adam

Hello subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:49:55 PM, you wrote:

s Well, good for you!  I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is
s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering
s how does RIT price all these upgrades?  What I mean is ... every time
s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade?  It
s would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period
s of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software
s houses.

I don't think RIT is like those other software houses in that respect.
But there are frequently new releases. And they go by small fractional
steps in the version numbers.  The seminal release last year however
did request a priced upgrade.

MB If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to
MB all 2.xx users.

s I'm not quite sure I understand ... the handy routine is free if I
s upgrade?  Do I pay for the actual upgrade, i.e., from Version 2.00.x
s to Version 2.11.x?  I would think so, but since I haven't been into
s upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know.

If you are a 1.xx series owner, then I think you would pay the upgrade
price for the 2.xx series.

I think just early 2.0 TB versions, such as the one you are running,
were like Betas. Or final pre-releases.  Maybe to try for a period.
Memory is hazy.

So the client you are running now is like a full glass of water, but
without the cool ice, and the fresh slice of lemon.

It may have some variations in routine.

So I guess most of us forgot the details on that release phase.

You had it right all along it was a version issue.

I doubt most people would think of that when you have a list of very
standardized fields or menu items.

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Re[4]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Howdy Ben,

snip

BA  The only time i had to pay to upgrade was when the bat went from 1.xx
BA  to  2.xx.  All  the other times i have upgrade it has been free... it
BA  will  be  for  you  too. If you upgrade from 2.00.x to 2.11.x or even
BA  2.12.x  it  is  FREE.  no charge. Ritlabs dont charge for these minor
BA  upgrades.  They  try  and  use  these  update  for  bug fixes and new
BA  functions.

Thanks for the clarification ... guess I might just upgrade sooner
than I thought! ;)

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:09 PM, you wrote:

TGM Only if you were born before 1960. ;-)

s LOL!  Yup ... way back ... push 'em back ... well, may be not that far
s back .. 1945 or there abouts ...

You delightful young puppy! (Have you tried View Threads by References in
View/View threads by, in v. 2.00.0 yet?)

Here's doddering old Mary, born c. 1927. :)

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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:47:57 PM, you wrote:

snip

MB Sorry about the ambiguous construction of my sentence in the post
MB you're replying to, where I said, It's free.  :) Upgrading from
MB v.2.00.x to any subsequent version is definitely free. Including
MB to the latest (current) one: v. 2.11.02

I don't think you were ambiguous ... I just always like to confirm
what I think I've read ... possibly a bad habit on my part.

snip

MB I just ignore the new features which I don't understand. It's entirely
MB feasible to do that. So I don't use any Virtual Folders, and I never
MB did use any color groups (although these were available long ago in
MB earlier versions).

MB The features I like are:

MB 1) Viewing mail on the Mail Dispatcher before downloading
MB 2) Address Book templates
MB 3) Quick templates
MB 4) Making filters--once a slight learning curve is mastered

Thanks for the input.

MB I would dearly love to banter with you here, but I already have too
MB bad a reputation for long posts.

Hey, bantering is an art form ... just not always desirable on an
email list, so ... I'll try not to also.

MB I didn't hang back from this thread out of a desire to be mean. I just
MB felt shy, in case I didn't fully understand what was being talked
MB about. I also have a pretty good reputation for getting my foot in my
MB mouth, here and elsewhere. :) And for rambling and getting OT.

Oh, sounds like me ... we could be the dynamic duo that Marck,
Lief, et al wonder Why are they using The Bat!  Just kidding, guys
(and gals)!

MB Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT?

Do you think they'd let me?  Welcome me with open arms or just think
Here comes another one of those dudes?  Mary, I think I just might!
I'm sure I would enjoy everyone and learn a thing or two besides.

P.S.  Have you been trouted yet?  Sounds like a great honor ... I
see where one of the moderators earned such an award ... LOL!

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello subscriber2list!

On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:30 PM, you wrote:

MB Sorry about the ambiguous construction ...

s I don't think you were ambiguous ... I just always like to confirm
s what I think I've read ... possibly a bad habit on my part.

I myself regard it as a very *good* habit.

snip

MB I would dearly love to banter with you here, but I already have too
MB bad a reputation for long posts.

s Hey, bantering is an art form ... just not always desirable on an
s email list, so ... I'll try not to also.

No, no, a little levity is okay here. The moderators will tell us when
we need to take it to TBOT or PM. :)

MB I didn't hang back from this thread out of a desire to be mean. I just
MB felt shy, in case I didn't fully understand what was being talked
MB about. I also have a pretty good reputation for getting my foot in my
MB mouth, here and elsewhere. :) And for rambling and getting OT.

s Oh, sounds like me ... we could be the dynamic duo that Marck,
s Lief, et al wonder Why are they using The Bat!  Just kidding, guys
s (and gals)!

They know why *I'm* using The Bat!--because it's absolutely the best
e-mail client in the known universe!

MB Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT?

s Do you think they'd let me?  Welcome me with open arms or just think
s Here comes another one of those dudes?  Mary, I think I just might!
s I'm sure I would enjoy everyone and learn a thing or two besides.

We'd be overjoyed to see you there. We don't always have 600-plus
posts every day, as happened over the weekend. Just when some of us
feel like partying. g

Click on the URL at the bottom of this message for info. Or read your
Welcome to TBUDL letter for the subscribe to address.

s P.S.  Have you been trouted yet?  Sounds like a great honor ... I
s see where one of the moderators earned such an award ... LOL!

Oh, my! That was only banter. Yes, I was trouted my very first post to
this list! As you can see, I survived. I think I was dead-horsed once,
too. It's All in the Family!

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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:22:55 PM, you wrote:

MB Hello subscriber2list!

MB On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:09 PM, you wrote:

TGM Only if you were born before 1960. ;-)

s LOL!  Yup ... way back ... push 'em back ... well, may be not that far
s back .. 1945 or there abouts ...

MB You delightful young puppy! (Have you tried View Threads by References in
MB View/View threads by, in v. 2.00.0 yet?)

Aaah, so I'm a young whipper-snapper, huh?  LOL!  Anyway ... to stay
on The Bat! topic, No, I have not as of yet tried View Threads by
References (am almost sure at one time or another I have - but didn't
really understand what the true effect/result of my actions was at the
time - you know ... I was just pushing the buttons or making various
selections to see what would happen, i.e., how stable The Bat!
was/is!), but promise to do so.

MB Here's doddering old Mary, born c. 1927. :)

Well, I think you're a pretty sharp lady myself.  I've read some of
your prior comments in earlier emails ... you've got spirit, gumption
... you're tough ... keep it up!

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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Mary,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:44:19 PM, you wrote:

snip

s Oh, sounds like me ... we could be the dynamic duo that Marck,
s Lief, et al wonder Why are they using The Bat!  Just kidding, guys
s (and gals)!

Aaaah, gsh!  Do you think Lief is gonna git me?  My fast fat
fingers misspelled his name ... shame on me, shame on me, shame on me.
Sorry, Leif ... I hope this doesn't mean you'll not help me in the
near future ... I figure you will in the far future as our memories
tend to fade ...

MB They know why *I'm* using The Bat!--because it's absolutely the best
MB e-mail client in the known universe!

Well, that's a very strong statement, but I think I can agree with it
with some reservations.

MB Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT?

s Do you think they'd let me?  Welcome me with open arms or just think
s Here comes another one of those dudes?  Mary, I think I just might!
s I'm sure I would enjoy everyone and learn a thing or two besides.

MB We'd be overjoyed to see you there. We don't always have 600-plus
MB posts every day, as happened over the weekend. Just when some of us
MB feel like partying. g

Aaah, noch eins!

MB Click on the URL at the bottom of this message for info. Or read your
MB Welcome to TBUDL letter for the subscribe to address.

Will do.

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Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello subscriber2list,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:16:06 PM, you wrote:
subscriber2list Aaaah, gsh! Do you think Lief is gonna git me?
subscriber2list My fast fat fingers misspelled his name ... shame on
subscriber2list me, shame on me, shame on me. Sorry, Leif ... I hope
subscriber2list this doesn't mean you'll not help me in the near
subscriber2list future ... I figure you will in the far future as
subscriber2list our memories tend to fade ...

You're toast bud!!! :grin:


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Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)

2004-06-30 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Leif,

Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 5:20:26 PM, you wrote:

LG Hello subscriber2list,

snip

LG You're toast bud!!! :grin:

LOL!

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Re: Common courtesy on threading!

2004-06-29 Thread subscriber2list
Hello Greg,

Sunday, June 27, 2004, 1:08:30 AM, you wrote:

snip

GS All they have to do when subject is changed in a reply is the

GS following: 1  change subject

GS 2  select View | Follow-up

GS 3  delete message id

GS Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new
GS thread.  Common courtesy I think.

GS Just like I've done with this message.

I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated
and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no
Follow-up menu selection.  Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!,
V 2.0.  Might that be the reason?

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Re: Common courtesy on threading!

2004-06-29 Thread Adam

Hello subscriber2list,

Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 3:19:01 PM, you wrote:
GS Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new
GS thread.  Common courtesy I think.

GS Just like I've done with this message.

s I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated
s and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no
s Follow-up menu selection.  Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!,
s V 2.0.  Might that be the reason?

Don't think so.  You just have to start a Reply first.

That should help.  You should find it there somewhere on the menu.

As for 3, as soon as you click on the new field displayed, all text
there should be highlighted.  If it gets unhighlighted, you can
highlight all again with the keyboard by cursoring down and up between
the fields.

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Re[2]: Common courtesy on threading!

2004-06-29 Thread subscriber2list
Thanks Adam for your reply.

Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 3:23:45 PM, you wrote:

s I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated
s and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no
s Follow-up menu selection.  Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!,
s V 2.0.  Might that be the reason?

A Don't think so.  You just have to start a Reply first.

I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject
field to read This is only a test 

Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no
Follow-up menu selection was offered.  Oh well ... not a biggy to me
as I can always just create a new message with new subject field
content, but what Greg described seemed a very handy, dandy thing to
learn to do ... but, alas, I have failed ... to comprehend something
or ... Follow-up is not an option with The Bat! Version 2.0 AFAICT.


A That should help.  You should find it there somewhere on the menu.

A As for 3, as soon as you click on the new field displayed, all text
A there should be highlighted.  If it gets unhighlighted, you can
A highlight all again with the keyboard by cursoring down and up between
A the fields.




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Common courtesy on threading!

2004-06-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Melissa,

Saturday, June 26, 2004, 1:41:16 PM, Melissa Reese wrote:

MR Some of us just don't have either the time or the inclination to read
MR every single message that comes into every list we subscribe to. For
MR this reason - amongst others - we use threading as a means to quickly
MR make a first decision about which discussions to follow and which to
MR ignore. The logic of threading is completely lost when we ignore this
MR most basic reason for the existence of threading in the first place.

MR Okay...I've had my little rant for the day.  I feel better now (I
MR think). :-)

But a good one.

All they have to do when subject is changed in a reply is the following:

1  change subject

2  select View | Follow-up

3  delete message id

Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new
thread.  Common courtesy I think.

Just like I've done with this message.

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