Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
Hello M, On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:27:33 +0800 GMT (27/04/2004, 11:27 +0700 GMT), M i c C u l l e n wrote: Not with the spacebar, but I use crtl-] all the time with exactly that result. MicCullen See my other message for what I think is a solution for MicCullen this. Let's face it, just hitting the spacebar is a lot MicCullen easier than ctrl-] :-) It appears that you can assign the spacebar, as others have pointed out. When I read mails (especially MLs), my left thumb is on the crtl-key, the right ring finger on the ]-key, and the right thumb on the spacebar. So it is no effort for me to either hit crtl-] or space, depending on whether I want to forward within the message or read the next one. The different but effortless shortcuts work for me. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Trees that grow in smoggy cities are needed to make carbon paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
On Monday, 26 Apr 2004 22:41 [+0800], Mic Cullen wrote: .. MicCullen Threading - is it possible to get the program to MicCullen only expand threads with unread messages in them? .. MicCullen Is it possible to only show genuinely unread MicCullen messages as unread, rather than all the way from an unread MicCullen message all the way back to the thread root? Not configurable x2 :-/ And there are more threading features missing, two for example: - TB cannot thread by references+subject, unlike FA - FA's ViewFilters comparing to current TB's ViewModes have an extra option Show complete Threads for matching messages (commonly used for condensed listings like thread (Keep|Watch) or thread (!read !ignore)) -- / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
General (perhaps basic) questions
G'day all. I'm a LONG-term Agent user, (bought it when it was still .99 beta, the best part of a decade ago), but I finally got too fed up with it, so I went looking for a different client, and I've ended up here. And despite the clear advantages that The Bat! has over Agent, I'm missing some of the things that Agent did, although I've discovered a few of them in the last week or so, despite the 'help' file, due to putting in a LOT of hours playing with it - and reading this list :-) Several things have got me really frustrated, and I'm hoping (and suspecting) that I've just missed them along the way. Threading - is it possible to get the program to only expand threads with unread messages in them? Is it possible to only show genuinely unread messages as unread, rather than all the way from an unread message all the way back to the thread root? In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar to move to the next unread message - can this be done in The Bat!? TIA -- cheers, Mic (return address works) Where were the animal rights people when Joe Camel was killed? Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
On Monday, April 26, 2004, M i c C u l l e n wrote... Threading - is it possible to get the program to only expand threads with unread messages in them? Don't think so. Is it possible to only show genuinely unread messages as unread, rather than all the way from an unread message all the way back to the thread root? It is showing only the ones unread that are unread, look at the envelope icon. It just bolds the font of all the parents so you can see at a glance, which threads still have unread messages. In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar to move to the next unread message - can this be done in The Bat!? Yep... if you hit ALT-F12, it'll show you a whole bunch of shortcut keys (customizable). If you use the ticker, and enable the virtual folder view (View - Message List) when you open a message, if you select any message in there, and use the space bar, it'll move to the next message. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 We're lost, yes.but we're making good time. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
Hallo M, On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:41:25 +0800GMT (26-4-04, 16:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MIC In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar to move to the next unread MIC message - can this be done in The Bat!? You can use Ctrl+] and Ctrl+[ to move to the next/previous unread message. Though this doesn't solve your issues with the way TB shows (partially) unread threads it takes most of its bite away. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
Hello Mic, On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:41:25 +0800 GMT (26/04/2004, 21:41 +0700 GMT), M i c C u l l e n wrote: MicCullen Threading - is it possible to get the program to only MicCullen expand threads with unread messages in them? No - it's all or nothing. I can imagine that you get a lot of seconders when you add an itme to the wishlist. MicCullen Is it possible to only show genuinely unread messages as MicCullen unread, rather than all the way from an unread message all MicCullen the way back to the thread root? Only unread messages are shown as unread (i.e. closed envelope icon), but you are right, the messages further up the thread are shown bold as well. The idea is that you can see when there are unread messages further down the thread. This may be annoying to some, but unfortunatley, this is not configurable. MicCullen In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar MicCullen to move to the next unread message - can this be done in MicCullen The Bat!? Not with the spacebar, but I use crtl-] all the time with exactly that result. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Er rannte ohne Beute davon, wurde aber von der Uberwachungskamera noch festgehalten. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
Hello M, In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar to move to the next unread message - can this be done in The Bat!? You can configure this via the Shortcuts Editor (View/Edit Shortcuts or Alt+F12). I use Space bar to mark messages as Read and Enter to move to next unread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
On Monday, April 26, 2004 @ 11:46:04 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: [snips] MIC In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar to move to the next unread MIC message - can this be done in The Bat!? You can use Ctrl+] and Ctrl+[ to move to the next/previous unread message. Though this doesn't solve your issues with the way TB shows (partially) unread threads it takes most of its bite away. OK, I think I've found the solution to this - in ViewEdit Shortcut keysMessage List popupMove to next unread, I've changed ctrl-] to 'space' and it seems to be working fine. I also changed Park in there to just use the letter 'k' (for keep, as in agent) and it also seems to be working fine, in that I can use both 'space' and 'k' when typing this message. (A decade's worth of habit is hard to break!!!) This is unlike when I first fiddled with the options the other day, and various keys went missing :-))) Thanks to all for their help - much appreciated. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) A lifetime of happiness! No man alive could bear it: it would be hell on earth. George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903), act I Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: General (perhaps basic) questions
On Monday, April 26, 2004 @ 11:33:51 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: [snips] MicCullen Threading - is it possible to get the program to only MicCullen expand threads with unread messages in them? No - it's all or nothing. I can imagine that you get a lot of seconders when you add an itme to the wishlist. I'll do that. MicCullen Is it possible to only show genuinely unread messages as MicCullen unread, rather than all the way from an unread message all MicCullen the way back to the thread root? Only unread messages are shown as unread (i.e. closed envelope icon), but you are right, the messages further up the thread are shown bold as well. The idea is that you can see when there are unread messages further down the thread. This may be annoying to some, but unfortunatley, this is not configurable. Ah. In the interests of space conservation, I don't have the envelope showing. But now I've got the spacebar thing sorted, it's nothing like as much of a problem. (Still annoying - I've got unread messages showing as green text on a very pale yellow background to help them stand out, but I'd go back to the white background if this got solved.) MicCullen In Agent, one-click browsing allows the use of the spacebar MicCullen to move to the next unread message - can this be done in MicCullen The Bat!? Not with the spacebar, but I use crtl-] all the time with exactly that result. See my other message for what I think is a solution for this. Let's face it, just hitting the spacebar is a lot easier than ctrl-] :-) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) In life, no matter how tall your parents were, you still have to do your own growing. Henry Boye (Writer) Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
