Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hi On Tuesday, 28 September, 2004, at 11:25:57 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: but basically, you call up PGPKeys, and see if you have the keyservers: keyserver.pgp.com europe.keys.pgp.com pgp.mit.edu is a useful addition to that list, IMHO -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
On 10/15/2004 04:17 pm, MFPA wrote: Hi On Tuesday, 28 September, 2004, at 11:25:57 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: but basically, you call up PGPKeys, and see if you have the keyservers: keyserver.pgp.com europe.keys.pgp.com pgp.mit.edu is a useful addition to that list, IMHO yes it is, if you depend on keyservers. I don't put my key on the keyservers, I tell you how to get it using my sig kludges ( headers). right now I am setting up a new Xandros Linux setup, so I don't have my PGP info here, but if you look in the archive I know you will find it. -- Paul Cartwright Linux registered user # 367800 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Richard, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 4:25:18 AM, you wrote: RW Gosh you did all that very quickly and efficiently. Very impressive 'cos RW it took me a couple of days to get PGP sorted out properly. I had many people helping and still have 4 messages on the subject parked, including yours with that long list of reading assignments. :) (One of the things I like in TB is the Park feature. The only programme I saw with a similar feature was Forte Agent newsreader). I had also googled a bit and read some stuff in several sites. My major problem was downloading the PGP programme file. I was constantly being redirected to an error page saying my computer was behind a firewall, etc. The programme itself is pretty easy and installed fast and smoothly. There is still something I'm curious about: when I click on the question mark and the signature is verified, it normally turns into a green check mark. With Mica's messages the question mark disappears and a file attachment appears saying OK - PGP Verified. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 pgpJtwQsPHOGM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Cristina, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR There is still something I'm curious about: when I click on the CR question mark and the signature is verified, it normally turns into a CR green check mark. With Mica's messages the question mark disappears CR and a file attachment appears saying OK - PGP Verified. I'm not sure but I think it's the way the message is signed as to what way the verification is shown but I'm sure I'll be corrected. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.19 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 pgpuJalETDyPM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Security newby and yellow circles
Hello all, Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely signing your messages? How do I do that? -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:14:38 AM, you wrote: Hello all, Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely signing your messages? How do I do that? Hi Cristina, I believe you are referring to the PGP/GPG/Authenticating Signature of the posts. Like mine is a PGP Signature and if you have PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) installed you can check the validity of the message by checking the signature. As for the other ways to check, I am not very familiar with, but I am sure someone can help out. You can read all about PGP at www.pgp.com Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 There is no safe seat at the feast.. : Anagram pgpKYNbrlxI9U.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hi Cristina You wrote: Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely signing your messages? How do I do that? That little yellow circle with a checkmark indicates that the message has been signed using either S/MIME or PGP/MIME. To do this, you'd have to have PGP or GnuPG installed and working, and then enable TB! support for them. You can then sign using the Privacy settings in the editor. For PGP/GnuPG, you'd have to create a set of keys to sign with. For S/MIME, you'll need to get one created for you through one of the certificate authorities. -- Allie Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:14:38 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. Those are smileys, they're sent along to show that the sender is in a good mood. :pulling-leg: CR What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely CR signing your messages? It has to do with digitally signing your message and thus showing that you sent the message and that it wasn't tampered with on the way to the recipient. CR How do I do that? You get a certificate by Thawte (or some others) or you create a PGP key (GPG is compatible with that) and you sign your message. Both work with a public and a private key. You sign with the private key and the signature is checked with the public key. The main differences between the two types are that with certificates you send the public part along with every signed message and with PGP the public keys can be requested from the owner or from a key-server. With certificates the signing is done by the mail client, with PGP it's done with that PGP/GPG variety that you've got installed. Messages signed with a certificate are substantially bigger than the same message PGP signed. With PGP you've got two ways of signing messages, you can either sign in the text (that's when you find messages starting with -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 and ending with some odd codes) or with the signature as attachment, the latter looks a lot better, but unfortunately not all mail clients support PGP/MIME (TB does support it) Most signed messages on this list are PGP signed, it's been quite a while that I've seen a MIME signed message and that's not only on this list, but that might just be the kind people I hang around with. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpkziXU9JiqN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:18:45 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Cristina, RO On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:14:38 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: CR Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. RO Those are smileys, they're sent along to show that the sender is in a RO good mood. :pulling-leg: CR What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely CR signing your messages? RO It has to do with digitally signing your message and thus showing that RO you sent the message and that it wasn't tampered with on the way to RO the recipient. CR How do I do that? RO You get a certificate by Thawte (or some others) or you create a PGP RO key (GPG is compatible with that) and you sign your message. RO Both work with a public and a private key. You sign with the private RO key and the signature is checked with the public key. RO The main differences between the two types are that with certificates RO you send the public part along with every signed message and with PGP RO the public keys can be requested from the owner or from a key-server. RO With certificates the signing is done by the mail client, with PGP RO it's done with that PGP/GPG variety that you've got installed. RO Messages signed with a certificate are substantially bigger than the RO same message PGP signed. RO With PGP you've got two ways of signing messages, you can either sign RO in the text (that's when you find messages starting with RO -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- RO Hash: SHA1 and ending with some odd codes) or with the signature as RO attachment, the latter looks a lot better, but unfortunately not all RO mail clients support PGP/MIME (TB does support it) RO Most signed messages on this list are PGP signed, it's been quite a RO while that I've seen a MIME signed message and that's not only on this RO list, but that might just be the kind people I hang around with. Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file attached as you mentioned, but no yellow circle. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there CR are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file CR attached as you mentioned, but no yellow circle. Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in it. The text file isn't the signature file (TB doesn't show that), but the list footer. The list server (like most list servers) isn't able to attach footers to the body of messages that have attachments. That's a good thing too, since adding text to the message would invalidate the signature. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpLoq44NYZLy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Security newby and yellow circles)
Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR Hello Roelof, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Cristina. ' Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpgJgh5xk4K5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Cristina, RO On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: CR Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there CR are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file CR attached as you mentioned, but no yellow circle. RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO it. RO The text file isn't the signature file (TB doesn't show that), but the RO list footer. The list server (like most list servers) isn't able to RO attach footers to the body of messages that have attachments. That's a RO good thing too, since adding text to the message would invalidate the RO signature. I have one of your messages parked (TBOT about using the %Language=ID macro) and it has a yellow circle and no TXT file attached; these 2 last messages have the footer attached as you mentioned but no circle. And I'm sitting right in the same place when I look at these messages LOL . So why do you think this happens? Another question: what's the best site to download PGP? I went to http://pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html and it keeps giving me an error message saying I have my firewall blocking referrals, even after I disabled the firewall. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO it. um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green ! and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP signature, isn't that the way it should be? -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:59:08 PM, you wrote: PC Hello Roelof, PC Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO it. PC um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green ! PC and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP PC signature, isn't that the way it should be? What I see is a yellow circle with a brown check mark on it. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 1:59:08 PM, you wrote: Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO it. um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green ! and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP signature, isn't that the way it should be? Yes, mine is the same as yours, I belive. I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of olive drab circle around it. As soon as I verified the signature, it tuned to a Check mark with a bright green circle around it. At least that is what I am showing. Hope this helps... -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Should I download logs? / Grab it, store it, shove it. - Ivanova pgpXAnTPtfwAZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Michael Acklin everyone else 28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote: I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of olive drab circle around it. Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-) Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature... Bingo? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.0.19 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 DP2: Circle Of Life by Pete Namlook from 'Silence 4' Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:43:06 PM, you wrote: Hello Michael Acklin everyone else 28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote: I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of olive drab circle around it. Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-) Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature... Bingo? Bingo! I hadn't really paid any attention to the *messagelist*. But now that you mentioned it, that is what I am seeing also there. And yes, I was referring to the *headerpane* when I made my comment to Paul. So now I am much more informed than I was before. :) Thanks for that help... -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Learn'd without sense, and venerably dull. -- Churchill pgpJdJU9onXli.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote: ASK Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-) maybe not.. ASK Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the ASK *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the ASK status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand ASK corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and ASK thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green ASK checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature... I was talking about the headerpane being green, not yellow. Now that you mention it, I haven't seen any of the yellow checkmark signed icons in a while, I wonder if I have that column off, or... -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote: ASK Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the ASK *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while ASK the never mind, I answered my own question by going back and looking at my tbot folder.. I see the YELLOW checkmarks on the message envelopes... -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 9:48:01 PM, you wrote: PC Hello Alexander, PC Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote: ASK Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-) PC maybe not.. ASK Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the ASK *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the ASK status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand ASK corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and ASK thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green ASK checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature... PC I was talking about the headerpane being green, not yellow. Now that you PC mention it, I haven't seen any of the yellow checkmark signed icons in a PC while, I wonder if I have that column off, or... Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that? -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote: CR Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window CR opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is CR it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that? do you have the keyservers setup to check it?? it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give you info in the headers on how to get their keys.. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 10:18:55 PM, you wrote: PC Hello Cristina, PC Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote: CR Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window CR opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is CR it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that? PC do you have the keyservers setup to check it?? PC it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give PC you info in the headers on how to get their keys.. Could you step by step it, please?:notworthy: -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:03:16 PM, you wrote: PC do you have the keyservers setup to check it?? PC it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give PC you info in the headers on how to get their keys.. CR Could you step by step it, please?:notworthy: if you want to try the other method, here is the web site link that has my key: http://home.comcast.net/~p.cartwright/wsb/Paul_gawab.asc just import it into your keyring. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Richard, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:18:07 PM, you wrote: RW Have a read of this for starters and I suggest joining pgp-users RW newsgroup too, very friendly and that's where I learnt how to work it. thank you Richard!!! I may even read those, I've uninstalled reinstalled my PGP setup a few times, and I know I'm missing some key servers.. I know theres a LIST somewhere :) I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) and I've never tried PGPdisk.. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Paul, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PC I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) Click on Help in your PGPKeys and it'll give the version. It's up to 8.1 now. PC and I've never tried PGPdisk.. Me neither, I use The Bat Private Disk. Works fine. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.19 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 pgpJbZAMpcyYe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:55:33 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 20:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR I have one of your messages parked (TBOT about using the CR %Language=ID macro) and it has a yellow circle and no TXT file CR attached; these 2 last messages have the footer attached as you CR mentioned but no circle. And I'm sitting right in the same place when CR I look at these messages LOL . So why do you think this happens? You're talking about a different list and therefore different rules. All my messages in the 'still teaching English' thread are signed, so they should be appropriately marked. (They are on my system.) I don't see a list footer on my messages on that thread, neither at the bottom of the message nor as an attached text file. Are you sure you don't see the yellow circle, after all that's the thread that got Mica asking about PGP/MIME since he was missing the list footer on my messages. Are you sure you're seeing a list footer and not my signature? If so, please post the message-id of said message, so I can check on my own system. CR Another question: what's the best site to download PGP? Don't know. Any site offering PGP or GPG should be good enough. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpQgGLpk6CcD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:59:08 -0400GMT (28-9-2004, 20:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO it. PC um, I know I'm colorblind, So am I. PC but I SWEAR that circle is green ! I believe you've already got that sorted out. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgptD5Uf7V9oK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:52:32 PM, you wrote: thank you Richard!!! I may even read those, I've uninstalled reinstalled my PGP setup a few times, and I know I'm missing some key servers.. I know theres a LIST somewhere :) I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) and I've never tried PGPdisk.. I just checked today and there is a new version of PGP available. Version 8.1 and is working great so far. Believe or not, I used to use PGP 2.6, the command line version of PGP when it first came out. In fact I still have some RSA Keys attached to my Keyring that are still functional. :) Long story behind PGP and is very interesting if you ever get to read the history of PGP. Anyway, if you get a chance to download PGP 8.1, you can update your current version that way. And BTW, I have been using PGPDisk for many years also. :) -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Complain to one who can help you. pgpdeLTrewqZQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:45:17 PM, you wrote: PC but I SWEAR that circle is green ! RO I believe you've already got that sorted out. ;-) yup, your message had a yellow checkmark and a green ? ! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Richard, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:45:54 PM, you wrote: RW Click on Help in your PGPKeys and it'll give the version. It's up to 8.1 RW now. yup, I just downloaded 8.1 , I think I might have had a problem before, something about a firewall, but I got it this time.. PC and I've never tried PGPdisk.. RW Me neither, I use The Bat Private Disk. Works fine. never tried that either! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 1:43:21 AM, you wrote: RO I don't see a list footer on my messages on that thread, neither at RO the bottom of the message nor as an attached text file. Are you sure RO you don't see the yellow circle, after all that's the thread that got RO Mica asking about PGP/MIME since he was missing the list footer on my RO messages. RO Are you sure you're seeing a list footer and not my signature? If so, RO please post the message-id of said message, so I can check on my own RO system. No, it's your footer I see, not the list footer. My question was about the fact that in those TBOT messages there's not TXT attatchment and in these massages there is an attachment. Now a confession: the only reason I couldn't see the yellow circle in these last messages was because :oops: in my TBUL folder I didn't have a message flag column. CR Another question: what's the best site to download PGP? RO Don't know. Any site offering PGP or GPG should be good enough. I finally managed to download PGP 8.1 (a free version from http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html). The problem was the Download Manager. When I disabled it I could save the programme and install it. After much fighting I ended up with two S/MIME certificates from Thawte and InstantSSL :lol: and finally a PGP Key. I hope it's working. And all of you with the infamous olive question marks have already pretty green checkmarks. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.19 pgpxCxLgpK9SH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Cristina, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR After much fighting I ended up with two S/MIME certificates from Thawte CR and InstantSSL :lol: and finally a PGP Key. I hope it's working. Gosh you did all that very quickly and efficiently. Very impressive 'cos it took me a couple of days to get PGP sorted out properly. CR And all of you with the infamous olive question marks have already CR pretty green checkmarks. And so does yours too having just imported your key. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.19 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 pgpuNjieUdMNM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hello Michael, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MA Anyway, if you get a chance to download PGP 8.1, you can update your MA current version that way. Did it as soon as it came out. MA And BTW, I have been using PGPDisk for many years also. It's a useful little programme as I back up all my files to a USB drive. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.19 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 pgpW4YQyAicRI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
On Wed 29 September 2004, 8:18:07 +1000, Richard Wakeford wrote: For the moment, you might like to look at PGPDisk - I think there is still a free version of PGP which includes this asideCan anyone else shed light on this?/aside. I think the last version of PGP that had a free PGPDisk was v6.x. I was using that, but because it claimed not to be compatible with Win XP, I upgraded to v8. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
newby configuration question
I have a laptop and use two different ISPs (at different locations). For the same email account, can I use two different smtp servers, one of which requires authentication? Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
Re: newby configuration question
Hi n, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 06:04:48 -0700 (PDT) GMT (Aug 31, 18:49 my local time), you [nc] wrote: nc I have a laptop and use two different ISPs (at different nc locations). For the same email account, can I use two different nc smtp servers, one of which requires authentication? Take a look at a companion program called X-Ray http://www.xrayapp.com/ This allows you, among other things, to automatically choose a correct SMTP server across multiple accounts maintained with multiple ISPs. Not sure whether it handles SMTP authentication but you might wanna give it a shot... -- Be Well, Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. ___PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| http://pgpkeys.mit.edu P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| _.. Every snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: newby configuration question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi n, 31-Aug-2002, 06:04 -0700 (14:04 UK time) n c said: moderator Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash. http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml /moderator I have a laptop and use two different ISPs (at different locations). For the same email account, can I use two different smtp servers, one of which requires authentication? No, you'll have to define two different accounts for that, although you could use third software like 'XRay' to perform this function. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9cMkzOeQkq5KdzaARAo9jAJ9krVyHLr9wPmjs5UqQduyWIdCg1gCg86gu 8foz1mbsTA4+og7NEp3A3Fk= =vy2K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newby
Hi John, welcome! On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:53:36 -0700GMT (29/06/2001, 10:53 +0800GMT), John McKane wrote: JM Is there any soure of a manual or guide for TB? Maybe a dumb ?! The help file is pretty good, then there is the FAQ file at http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com , and then is this list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Newby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, I am very new and have been readin the posts for the last two days in an attempt to get a feel for TB. I have downloaded and installed it today. Finding my way around it may take a little while as well as learning the uniqueness of it. Is there any soure of a manual or guide for TB? Maybe a dumb ?! I will keep on monitoring your posts and ad a few of my own over time. John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOzvtPjDQIjuyPH+OEQIEKACgpiFRSRN93FG4m7uNpZ4383PeaRIAoL+f GeWhj0L28pCnQSaWRZtMY7oI =kQVt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
