Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello List, wow, interesting. Did everyone receive this dupe with an empty mail body? On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:02:13 +0800 GMT (10/09/2001, 11:02 +0800 GMT), Thomas F wrote: -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello Thomas, On Monday, September 10, 2001 at 6:20:50 PM you wrote (at least in part): TF Hello List, TF wow, interesting. Did everyone receive this dupe with an empty mail TF body? Nope. quote Hi Timothy, On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT)GMT (11/09/2001, 00:21 +0800GMT), Timothy J. Luoma wrote: TJL (How do they stay in business, I wonder??) Myreal is an experiment by Novell. They are not out for profit as long as it's beta. And beta it is. ;-) /quote -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) ALL FANATICS MUST DIE! -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: OT: Sending mail
Hallo Thomas, TF wow, interesting. Did everyone receive this dupe with an empty mail TF body? Nope. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
I understand that he needs to use different SMTP relays depending on the connection he is using, probably because the relays of his company and his ISP allow only connections from certain IP addresses. But anyway, as Timothy hasn't clarified this, we cannot know. Let me then clarify ;-) I have a laptop and need to switch my SMTP servers in the morning (when I go to work) and in the evening (when I get home). I have two different providers and they will not allow me to relay (which is good for anti-spam, bad for mobile users). So I either need an easy way to switch SMTP servers **or** a SMTP server on my own machine (Dell Inspiron 7500/650mhz/256mb ram/Win2kPro) Thanks for all the suggestions! I'm keeping a list! TjL -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
As alternative, you may set on HOST file as : xx.xx.xx.xx smtp #yy.yy.yy.yy smtp ^ watch here! xx.xx.xx.xx = smtp address in office yy.yy.yy.yy - smtp address at home/ISP. While at home, just change to : #xx.xx.xx.xx smtp yy.yy.yy.yy smtp then put smtp on TB! transport properties. That's fine, but then I have to restart TheBat as it appears (and I may be wrong) to read the hosts file only at startup. I have tried that method before. Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? You may run any SMTP (relay) server, such Mercury or others, but this will burden your PC. Ram is cheap. I've got 256 and could easily goto 512 TjL -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello Timothy, On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 03:16:55 -0700 (PDT) GMT (10/09/2001, 18:16 +0800 GMT), Timothy J. Luoma wrote: TJL I have a laptop and need to switch my SMTP servers in the morning TJL (when I go to work) and in the evening (when I get home). Why don't you open a (free) account at www.myrealbox.com ? You can use the SMTP server regardless of the From or Reply-To address, or which ISP you are connected to. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I can tell you're lying. Your lips are moving. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello all, on Mon, 10 Sep 2001, at 03:16:55 local time (GMT -0700 (PDT)), Timothy wrote: TJL Thanks for all the suggestions! I'm keeping a list! same here ... i've now tried PostCast Server, which does not work on any of my ISP's (for some reason it does not detect my network settings and can't use DNS ...) and ADR, which works without a problem ... -- Rob using The Bat! 1.53o -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Why don't you open a (free) account at www.myrealbox.com ? You can use the SMTP server regardless of the From or Reply-To address, or which ISP you are connected to. Because I had no idea that it existed and had never heard of it. Now I have, and it works great! (How do they stay in business, I wonder??) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hi Timothy, On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT)GMT (11/09/2001, 00:21 +0800GMT), Timothy J. Luoma wrote: TJL (How do they stay in business, I wonder??) Myreal is an experiment by Novell. They are not out for profit as long as it's beta. And beta it is. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53o under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hi Allie, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 18:12:40 -0500, you wrote: ACM X-ray will only use a Smarthost SMTP. It doesn't possess the ACM ability to deliver messages bypassing a SmartHost. Maybe I misread Timothy's original post, but wasn't that what he wanted? A quick way to switch between two SMTP servers? -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello Timothy, Saturday, September 08, 2001, 2:41:56 AM, you wrote: TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? -- Try Communigate...it's a shareware... -- Best regards, Peter -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: OT: Sending mail
Hello Rob, Friday, September 07, 2001, 11:34:54 PM, you wrote: WM Try www.postcastserver.com R are you using it and is it any good ? We did - it was very easy to set up and use. Unfortunately one of our important correspondent's ISP wouldn't accept mail from it. It appears they have a blacklist of such servers which have been used to send spam. It _is_ perfect for sending spam - very fast. We reverted to BTInternet - very slow! -- Best regards, William Using The Bat! version 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello all, on Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 09:01:13 local time (GMT +0530), Raj wrote: R This where software like ADR comes in handy. Only its not free :( no problem ; i've got loads of registered shareware ... :-) if there's a demo-version i'll definitely have a look. wonder why i never thought of a 'local' SMTP server before ; it happens so often that i'm logged in at one of my ISP's, retrieve all mail and have to send/reply mail for the account i'm not connected to ... -- Rob using The Bat! 1.53o ... I have no axe to grind, but I have an ivory letter opener that could use some sharpening. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lars, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 10:00:29 +0200, you contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... ACM X-ray will only use a Smarthost SMTP. It doesn't possess the ACM ability to deliver messages bypassing a SmartHost. LG Maybe I misread Timothy's original post, but wasn't that what he LG wanted? A quick way to switch between two SMTP servers? I got the impression he needed a method of sending mail, bypassing his ISP SMTP. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuZ/20ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KKhQCeNtV6lITmUnPgV3iCgqowXzZ9 vzIAoM7EKQR/600yZRGhqkYFtCpdeJXw =zBBv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hi Allie, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 06:22:20 -0500, you wrote: ACM I got the impression he needed a method of sending mail, bypassing ACM his ISP SMTP. OK, let's quote Timothy then... :-) TJL I have to switch TheBat's preferences at least twice a day -- when TJL I am sending mail at home, I need to use my home provider's SMTP TJL relay; and when I am at work I need to use work's SMTP. I understand that he needs to use different SMTP relays depending on the connection he is using, probably because the relays of his company and his ISP allow only connections from certain IP addresses. But anyway, as Timothy hasn't clarified this, we cannot know. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello Timothy, Saturday, September 08, 2001, 1:41:56 PM, you wrote: skip Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? If so, that would be remarkably handy and I'd love to hear more, esp. about good free programs :-) The simpliest is Hamster (http://home.t-online.de/home/juergen.haible/) I use it as SMTP, POP and NNTP proxy and I'm quite happy. The only thing you have to do is to switch to other preferred smtp relay as you enter the Net through different route. Mercury has more features but it is better for permanent connection IMHO as I failed to control it behaviour manually:( -- Best regards, Serge Skorokhodovmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Serge, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 17:32:16 +0400, you wrote these comments: ... SS I use it as SMTP, POP and NNTP proxy and I'm quite happy. The only SS thing you have to do is to switch to other preferred smtp relay as SS you enter the Net through different route. With Mercury, you don't have to switch anything. Just set and forget. MDaemon is even better with SMTP since it is able to connect to a smarthost if there are problems achieving a direct e-mail delivery. SS Mercury has more features but it is better for permanent SS connection IMHO as I failed to control it behaviour manually:( Mercury can be toggled on or off-line. It doesn't matter anyway since if you're off-line it will continue polling in the background without protest or intrusion. When I used it, I just used to ignore it and just used TB!. I logged on and off the internet as I wished and Mercury did its thing. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuaPmMACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JdMACghVjay9OBywd40U24OBTqEZiV +LkAoK/n4dl0AkgmvQp0TlFEsbocVZNU =dTr0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello Timothy J. Luoma, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 at 02:41:56 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was 9/9/2001 4:41 PM where you think I live) you told to the list : The recent conversation about multiple accounts and the various programs led me to this question: I have to switch TheBat's preferences at least twice a day -- when I am sending mail at home, I need to use my home provider's SMTP relay; and when I am at work I need to use work's SMTP. So far the best I have come up with is making an entry in my hosts file so that I can use home for the home SMTP and work for the work SMTP. I have thinking over, and I think your current approach is the best and simple way for mobile user (notebook user). As alternative, you may set on HOST file as : xx.xx.xx.xx smtp #yy.yy.yy.yy smtp ^ watch here! xx.xx.xx.xx = smtp address in office yy.yy.yy.yy - smtp address at home/ISP. While at home, just change to : #xx.xx.xx.xx smtp yy.yy.yy.yy smtp then put smtp on TB! transport properties. Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? You may run any SMTP (relay) server, such Mercury or others, but this will burden your PC. If so, that would be remarkably handy and I'd love to hear more, esp. about good free programs :-) Because you only need SMTP Relay, maybe IIS5 SMTP will satisfy your needs. IIS5 SMTP built in on W2K server (on W2K Pro IIS5-SMTP not automatically install). IIS5-SMTP do just like MDaemon for outgoing message, it's try direct delivery first; if failed then route through Smarthost. -- Best regards, - Syafril - -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
OT: Sending mail
The recent conversation about multiple accounts and the various programs led me to this question: I have to switch TheBat's preferences at least twice a day -- when I am sending mail at home, I need to use my home provider's SMTP relay; and when I am at work I need to use work's SMTP. So far the best I have come up with is making an entry in my hosts file so that I can use home for the home SMTP and work for the work SMTP. Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? If so, that would be remarkably handy and I'd love to hear more, esp. about good free programs :-) Thanks! TjL -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello Timothy, Saturday, September 08, 2001, 10:41:56 AM, you wrote: TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? Try www.postcastserver.com -- Best regards, William Using The Bat! version 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hi Timothy, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: TJL when I am sending mail at home, I need to use my home provider's TJL SMTP relay; and when I am at work I need to use work's SMTP. TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my TJL own SMTP server? You can try X-Ray, a small program which works like some kind of mail proxy on your localhost. It was designed to work with TB! You can select the actual SMTP server via an icon in the tray area. Have a look here: http://www.xrayapp.net/ -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Hello all, on Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 20:37:45 local time (GMT +0100), William wrote: WM Try www.postcastserver.com are you using it and is it any good ? i've been looking around and it's the only freeware SMTP server (and also the biggest download ; 9mb !) setting up your own SMPT server sounds like a great idea ; i've got several accounts but they won't (of course) 'relay' ... -- Rob using The Bat! 1.53o ... Many people quit looking for work when they find a job. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lars, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:18:07 +0200, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... LG You can try X-Ray, a small program which works like some kind of LG mail proxy on your localhost. It was designed to work with TB! You LG can select the actual SMTP server via an icon in the tray area. LG Have a look here: http://www.xrayapp.net/ X-ray will only use a Smarthost SMTP. It doesn't possess the ability to deliver messages bypassing a SmartHost. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuZVGoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KU4wCgp9IDHL0C0EzozSGWrMyVq+kd EbwAoLDT48gJelaf5iRaFPIp4JzpXWvs =d2oD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: OT: Sending mail
Timothy, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 02:41:56 [GMT -0700 (PDT)] (which was 3:11 PM where I live) you wrote: TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server? TJL If so, that would be remarkably handy and I'd love to hear more, esp. about good free programs :-) My personal opinion (And I am a non-techie, I have tried Poscast, Mercury and several others.) is for you to try out AutoRoute SMTP (Free) from www.mailutilities.com. You just enter the SMTP details in the AutoRoute once and it will detect the SMTP you are connected to automatically. In TB you use 'localhost'. No need to select your SMTP manually. However it uses the ISP's SMTP server and all rules applicable to the ISP will be applied to outgoing mails. Small (really small hence in my definition low on overheads) and very efficient . I have tried it for over 6 months and then shifted to ADR for more features. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Saturday, September 08, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: OT: Sending mail
Rob, On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 00:34:54 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:04 AM where I live) you wrote: R setting up your own SMPT server sounds like a great idea ; i've got several R accounts but they won't (of course) 'relay' ... This where software like ADR comes in handy. Only its not free :( -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Saturday, September 08, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
