Possible bug: selective download filters

2004-02-12 Thread Terry
Hi all,

I have a selective download filter set to Ignore certain messages. I
assumed that meant that the messages would stay on the server until I
used the dispatcher to delete them. This isn't what is happening.

Here's what does seems to be happening (I'm using a test account
and sending messages to that account, so no other mail is
interfering.):

The messages are being filtered correctly. The log indicates the
presence of a message in the mailbox.

 2/12/2004, 11:36:12: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new
 2/12/2004, 11:36:12: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received

On the next check, the log indicates that the message is still there.

 2/12/2004, 11:39:12: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 0 new

On the third check, the message is gone!

 2/12/2004, 11:42:11: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new

I've used the mail dispatcher to look at the e-mail in various stages
without automatic checking. On first check, the e-mail is there with
only the read flag checked. On the second dispatcher check, the read
and *delete* flags are checked. *I wouldn't expect that the delete
flag would be checked.* By the third dispatcher check, of course, the
e-mail's been deleted because the flag was checked.

My settings on the account are to Delete received messages from
server. Since these aren't received messages, I wouldn't expect them
to be deleted, whether through automatic checking or through the use
of the dispatcher.

I could, of course, use the Keep messages on server option. The
messages aren't removed, but then no messages are removed. That
defeats the purpose, IMHO, since the account I want to use the filter
on gets a large amount of e-mail daily and I don't want to wade
through all of the e-mail to find the ones that are ignored.

I've read the help files, but there's not much guidance there.  Is
this behavior some kind of bug, or is this by design?

I've also noticed that the results from the Selective Download filters
(whether set to kill or ignore) don't appear in the log. Is this
normal?

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Possible Bug: The View History pull down tool in the 'To:', 'CC:';'BCC:' Fields shuts down TB! 1.60c

2002-04-12 Thread Peter Chiou



When I click on the down arrow that shows history in the above fields,
it shut TB! down with extreme prejudice.  Has anyone else experienced
this?  Is there a fix?

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Re: Verify this possible bug??

2001-08-03 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Friday, August 03, 2001, at 02:04:32 AM PDT, Ryan Phillips wrote:

 Go to any sent message with an attachment, then delete the
 attachment from the message. Close the message. Then reopen the same
 message (not in a preview but full screen). Does it show up blank
 for you?

I cannot confirm this. No matter how I go about deleting the
attachment (preview pane, full message view), or close/re-open either
just the message or even The Bat! as a whole, I can still always see
the original message. I'm using v1.53o, but I see you and the others
who can confirm some form of this bug are all using v1.54 beta/4.

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1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello TBUDL Members!

  I discovered something quite not so funny today:

  I composed a message which should contain my vCard and a Word
  document. First I wrote the mail, then I put the vCard in
  (Utilities/Attach vCard). After that I clicked on the toolbar button
  to attach a file, chose the right one and opened (= appended) it.

  Since this mail is very important I checked my Outbox for it and saw
  only the vCard attached. I fiddled a bit and consistently got the
  same behaviour, when I attach the vCard before attaching a file, the
  file does not show up (because it does not get attached). Doing it
  the other way round did function.

  Anyone else seeing this behaviour?


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Re: 1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Dierk,

On Wednesday, June 13, 2001 at 12:19:01 PM you wrote:

DH Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

cannot confirm over here ... tried to attach as QP, MIME, UUE and per
drag-n-drop. every time both attachments are present when the mail is
stored in outbox.
tried to attach .txt and .doc.
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Re: 1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Marek Mikus

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Dierk Haasis wrote:

   I composed a message which should contain my vCard and a Word
   document. First I wrote the mail, then I put the vCard in
   (Utilities/Attach vCard). After that I clicked on the toolbar button
   to attach a file, chose the right one and opened (= appended) it.

   Since this mail is very important I checked my Outbox for it and saw
   only the vCard attached. I fiddled a bit and consistently got the
   same behaviour, when I attach the vCard before attaching a file, the
   file does not show up (because it does not get attached). Doing it
   the other way round did function.

   Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

no, not confirmed.

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Re: 1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Gerry Doyon

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Hello Dierk,

Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 6:19:01 AM, you wrote:


DH   I composed a message which should contain my vCard and a Word
DH   document. First I wrote the mail, then I put the vCard in
DH   (Utilities/Attach vCard). After that I clicked on the toolbar button
DH   to attach a file, chose the right one and opened (= appended) it.

DH   Since this mail is very important I checked my Outbox for it and saw
DH   only the vCard attached. I fiddled a bit and consistently got the
DH   same behaviour, when I attach the vCard before attaching a file, the
DH   file does not show up (because it does not get attached). Doing it
DH   the other way round did function.

DH   Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

I was unable to duplicate this problem after following your directions
to the letter.
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Re: 1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Gerry!

On Wednesday, June 13, 2001 at 5:30:43 PM you wrote:

 I was unable to duplicate this problem after following your directions
 to the letter.

I tried it again, changing some settings. Normally I use Bind
attachments only while sending. For good measure I unchecked it.

And now guess ... Wrong ... Both times the same happened, the file
added (and I saw it added in the editor!) was not visible in the same
message sitting in the Outbox.

The other way round - first file, than vCard - everything works fine.

I added the file by using the toolbar button.


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Re: 1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Gerry Doyon

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Hello Dierk,

Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 1:02:08 PM, you wrote:

DH I tried it again, changing some settings. Normally I use Bind
DH attachments only while sending. For good measure I unchecked it.

Interesting.  I have Bind already activated.

DH The other way round - first file, than vCard - everything works fine.

VERY weird!

DH I added the file by using the toolbar button.

I did the same, but also added the file using drag-and-drop and that
worked fine as well.


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Re: 1.53 official release - possible bug: Attachments

2001-06-13 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Gerry!

On Wednesday, June 13, 2001 at 8:30:43 PM you wrote:

 Interesting.  I have Bind already activated.

I do have normally, I just changed it for testing purposes.

DH I added the file by using the toolbar button.

 I did the same, but also added the file using drag-and-drop and that
 worked fine as well.

And another test round. Adding it by context menu or toolbar button:
The DOC is been seen in the editor attachment pane, but not in the
Outbox.

Put in by drag-n-drop: Everything works fine. Getting weirder and
weirder.




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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-07 Thread Ming-Li

On Saturday, January 06, 2001, 11:09:50 PM, Andrey wrote:

ML I'm not sure about this. As Thomas said, different scan codes
ML are sent to the system when the NumLock status is changed.

 I'm afraid you're incorrect here. The down state of an Alt key just
 changes the way the keyboard handler interprets the actual scan codes.
  

Could you tell me what this is? The (keyboard) BIOS? The OS
(Windows)? Or the application?

I'm afraid you're not making sense to me. If the keyboard scan codes
have been interpreted by someone else before the application (TB)
gets them, then TB wouldn't know otherwise, does it? If TB does get
to interpret the keyboard events as they come, then it should be up
to TB to decide what to do.

Now, of course, you may argue TB is doing it the wrong way (not
according to standard/custom). But I can see no standard/custom
here, for I've found either way (ignoring or not ignoring NUmLock
status) implemented by various applications.

ML It's up to the receiving end (the application, I assume) to
ML decide what to do with it.

 But _any_ application must conform to the common standards (at
 least to an environment (OS) standards or a common practice).

Please tell me then where I can find this standard.

ML And I know people who prefer using the NumPad as direction keys
ML to the actual direction keys (out of habits).

 Yes, but this is not related to my problem, isn't it? :-)

Why not? I mean there're people who prefer the NumLock status not to
be ignored. The want Alt+Numpad 2 to be Alt+Down Arrow when NumLock
is off. And I find it to be reasonable.

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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-07 Thread Ming-Li

On Saturday, January 06, 2001, 10:54:07 PM, Andrey wrote:

 Partially - it depends on OS used. In DOS we are limited to 256
 characters. In Windows we can use all those characters that a
 particular font supports. For example, Alt+0149 != Alt+149 - try
 it yourself and you'll feel the difference.

Sorry, couldn't tell. I tried several times (in Notepad, another
editor, Word, Windows Run dialog, ...etc.), and could find no
difference at all between the two. They all show a round dot to me.

TF And when the NumPad is not NumLock'ed, it is not a NumPad, it
TF is a cursor control pad. Different signals are sent to the CPU,
TF so you will see different results.

 Yes, you're quite right but please don't forget the Alt hold down. It
 changes the way the OS interprets the scan codes of these keys - it
 means: store the NumPad input in a special buffer and simulate
 entering a character according to the decimal ANSI code received.

So you mean the OS (Windows) would buffer all the keyboard actions
during the time Alt is down and send the result after the whole
event (after Alt is up)? Is this documented somewhere (online
sources preferred, please)?

AFAIK, key codes continue to be sent to the application during the
time Alt is down, and it's up to the application to interpret the
result, including whether to disregard the NumLock status or not. By
application I mean the last program down the chain that can get the
keyboard events (including the status of various modifier/special
keys) and get to interpret them.

AGSAA The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.

Again, please tell me where it's documented. Thanks.

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DEAD HORSE (was Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad)

2001-01-07 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Ming-Li,

On 07 January 2001 at 05:32:13 -0800 (which was 13:32 where I
live) Ming-Li wrote and made these points:

 I'm afraid you're incorrect here. The down state of an Alt key just
 changes the way the keyboard handler interprets the actual scan codes.
ML   

ML Could you tell me what this is? The (keyboard) BIOS? The OS
ML (Windows)? Or the application?

It's the BIOS.

ML Please tell me then where I can find this standard.

There  isn't one - only a general "norm" to which some, but not all,
adhere and it all depends on the BIOS at root.

Can  we  please  take  this  discussion off-list (that's an official
instruction,  not a request). It may seem to be TB related, but it's
not.  It's  about  BIOS,  OS and Application interactions and varies
from system to system.

Anyway  - there's no further to take this on-list, so the horse just
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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Andrey,

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:54:07 +0300 GMT (07/01/2001, 14:54 +0800 GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:

AGSAA Partially - it depends on OS used. In DOS we are limited to 256
AGSAA characters. In Windows we can use all those characters that a particular
AGSAA font supports. For example, Alt+0149 != Alt+149 - try it yourself and
AGSAA you'll feel the difference.

A dot here in both cases - maybe a non-printable character in my
encoding but a russian character in your.

I have always left out preceding zeros when entering codes via
Atl-NumPad.

AGSAA Again, please remember that we're holding Alt down.

AGSAA I suggest trying to enter • character (Alt+0149) in the Start - Run
AGSAA window which is a part of Windows unlike all the applications discussed
AGSAA here. You'll always get the correct input regardless of the NumPad
AGSAA status.

The status of the NumLock keys changes the code the keys on the NumPad
produce. So it is a matter of definition what code they should produce
when the Atl key is held down while NumLock of FALSE: the same as with
NumLock, or not? We have seen that the different applications answer
this question differently, and Ritlabs chose the same way as MS when
they developed Word. I don't think this is a big, even though MS chose
to use the other definition when they devleoped other applications.

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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-06 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Friday, January 05, 2001, 9:13:13 AM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

AGSAA It seems to be impossible to enter characters using their ANSI
AGSAA codes via Alt+NumPad in TB message editor when the NumPad acts
AGSAA as a cursor control keys :-(.

TF I wouldn't know about ANSI codes, but I usually  use the NumPad for
TF ASCII codes. Maybe they are the same.

Partially - it depends on OS used. In DOS we are limited to 256
characters. In Windows we can use all those characters that a particular
font supports. For example, Alt+0149 != Alt+149 - try it yourself and
you'll feel the difference.

TF And when the NumPad is not NumLock'ed, it is not a NumPad, it is a
TF cursor control pad. Different signals are sent to the CPU, so you will
TF see different results.

Yes, you're quite right but please don't forget the Alt hold down. It
changes the way the OS interprets the scan codes of these keys - it
means: store the NumPad input in a special buffer and simulate
entering a character according to the decimal ANSI code received.

AGSAA The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.

TF Is that so? I have never heard this. I think if you want to inoput
TF ASCII codes via AtlNumPad, you have to make sure the NumLock light is
TF on. It has always been this way, and wouldn't understand why
TF alt+uparrow on the NumPad should have the same meaning as alt-8 on
TF the NumPad.

Again, please remember that we're holding Alt down.

I suggest trying to enter • character (Alt+0149) in the Start - Run
window which is a part of Windows unlike all the applications discussed
here. You'll always get the correct input regardless of the NumPad
status.


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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-06 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Friday, January 05, 2001, 6:15:32 PM, Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems to be impossible to enter characters using their ANSI
 codes via Alt+NumPad in TB message editor when the NumPad acts as
 a cursor control keys :-(.

 The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.

ML I'm not sure about this. As Thomas said, different scan codes are
ML sent to the system when the NumLock status is changed.

I'm afraid you're incorrect here. The down state of an Alt key just
changes the way the keyboard handler interprets the actual scan codes.

ML It's up to the receiving end (the application, I assume) to decide
ML what to do with it.

But _any_ application must conform to the common standards (at least to
an environment (OS) standards or a common practice).

ML While you may want TB to ignore the NumLock status, others may like
ML it not to.

Well and again, there are some standards (CUA and Win32 for example)
that _every_ application should meet. No M$ish "improvements" to the
protocols here.

OT: do you like the "Microsoft TCP/IP Protocol"? ;-)

ML Have you ever seen keyboards without the normal direction keys
ML (arrows and Home, End, PgUp, PgDn)? I do.

I too, as a user/developer/system administrator/decision maker.

ML And I know people who prefer using the NumPad as direction keys to
ML the actual direction keys (out of habits).

Yes, but this is not related to my problem, isn't it? :-)


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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-06 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Friday, January 05, 2001, 7:03:02 PM, Tim Musson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

lost

TF I say it's not a bug in TB.

TM Agreed, it seems to be application dependent.  M$ NotePad gets a t with
TM NumLock on and off.

Disagreed, it seems to be an UI inconsistence - like an absent New
Message toolbar button in the Folder View window while the Ctrl+N
mentioned under Message menu. However, it's a small problem - there are
more important ones to be resolved :-).

A message to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be sent soon. Perhaps I'll try to
add this item to the unofficial wishlist also.


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Re[2]: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-05 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

Friday, January 05, 2001, 1:13:13 AM, you wrote:

AGSAA The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.

TF Is that so? I have never heard this. I think if you want to inoput
TF ASCII codes via AtlNumPad, you have to make sure the NumLock light is
TF on. It has always been this way, and wouldn't understand why
TF alt+uparrow on the NumPad should have the same meaning as alt-8 on
TF the NumPad.

I don't know why, but my different PC's / OS's seem to ignore the
NumLock key when combining with the Alt key for ASCII chars.

Alt+116 = t regardless of the NumLock status for
Win2k/NT/98/95/m$-dos6/5/3/dr-dos7 on ThinkPad/Dell workstation, and
Compaq servers.


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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-05 Thread Ming-Li

On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 8:49:17 PM, Andrey wrote:

 It seems to be impossible to enter characters using their ANSI
 codes via Alt+NumPad in TB message editor when the NumPad acts as
 a cursor control keys :-(.

 The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.

I'm not sure about this. As Thomas said, different scan codes are
sent to the system when the NumLock status is changed. It's up to
the receiving end (the application, I assume) to decide what to do
with it. While you may want TB to ignore the NumLock status, others
may like it not to. Have you ever seen keyboards without the normal
direction keys (arrows and Home, End, PgUp, PgDn)? I do. And I know
people who prefer using the NumPad as direction keys to the actual
direction keys (out of habits).

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Re: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Tim,

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:26:11 -0500 GMT (05/01/2001, 21:26 +0800 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:

TM Alt+116 = t regardless of the NumLock status for
TM Win2k/NT/98/95/m$-dos6/5/3/dr-dos7 on ThinkPad/Dell workstation, and
TM Compaq servers.

Not for Word 97 under Win98. I just tried it. Returns t when NumLock
is TRUE and nothing when NumLock is FALSE.

You are right under MS-DOS 7, though. I find this inconsistent, but
there it is.

I have no access to other OS's right now, with my laptop (running
DR-DOS 6) having been on the fritz for a while (like 2 years, but one
day, I will fix it).

I say it's not a bug in TB.

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Re[2]: Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-05 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

Friday, January 05, 2001, 10:30:25 AM, you wrote:

TM Alt+116 = t regardless of the NumLock status for
TM Win2k/NT/98/95/m$-dos6/5/3/dr-dos7 on ThinkPad/Dell workstation, and
TM Compaq servers.

TF Not for Word 97 under Win98. I just tried it. Returns t when NumLock
TF is TRUE and nothing when NumLock is FALSE.

Ah...  I did not try it in anything but a command prompt...
I checked another app (TextPad - wonderful text editor btw, wish TB's
editor worked like www.TextPad.com) and with NumLock off, I do not get
the "t"...

TF I say it's not a bug in TB.

Agreed, it seems to be application dependent.  M$ NotePad gets a t with
NumLock on and off.


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Possible bug when entering characters using Alt+NumPad

2001-01-04 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


It seems to be impossible to enter characters using their ANSI codes via
Alt+NumPad in TB message editor when the NumPad acts as a cursor control
keys :-(.

For example, you can try to enter • char - it's code is 0149. You have
to hold down one of Alt keys while entering 0149 on the NumPad. If Num
Lock indicator is lit everything seems to be OK, but if your NumPad is
in cursor control mode, you'll probably have an "Add A File
(MIME/Base64)" window popping out after pressing [9] (or the last key in
the sequence).

As far as i understand it's TB (but not only TB) failure - just check
the technique described above in the Notepad, WordPad and Agent.
However, MS Word and Netscape Communicator failed also :-).

The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.


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Possible Bug?

2000-12-07 Thread Arthur Warren

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Extremely minor, but interesting. The Bat! reports -19 unread messages
in the system tray (via the floating tool-tip that you can get). This
happened after I marked a bunch of messages (that had been automatically
moved to other folders by filters) as read.

I do have a screen shot of the message, if there's somewhere that I
should attempt to post it.

Apologies if this is a known bug, I did search the archives briefly 
couldn't find anything similar.

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Re: Possible Bug?

2000-12-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Arthur,

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:58:16 -0500 GMT (08/12/2000, 00:58 +0800 GMT),
Arthur Warren wrote:

AW Extremely minor, but interesting. The Bat! reports -19 unread messages
AW in the system tray (via the floating tool-tip that you can get). This
AW happened after I marked a bunch of messages (that had been automatically
AW moved to other folders by filters) as read.

Minus nineteen? I have never had this to date. Sure sound slike a bug.

AW I do have a screen shot of the message, if there's somewhere that I
AW should attempt to post it.

If you are a member of TBOT (go to www.egroups.com and subscribe to a
list called tbot), then please upload it to the file section for us to
see.

AW Apologies if this is a known bug, I did search the archives briefly 
AW couldn't find anything similar.

It is not known. At least I have never heard of it, and I've been on
this list for about 20 months. That was before the archives were
started. (That's how old I am. No, I didn't want to say that.)

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Possible Bug...can somebody check this also?

2000-11-02 Thread Juergen Specht

Hi TBUDL,

I work with 1.47 Halloween Edition and found a possible bug.
Maybe somebody can verify this...

In my editor settings I use the autosave feature (40seconds).

Now if I write a new message and wait for 40 seconds, I see this message
in my outbox. If I send it, it will be deleted from this location after
a successful send. But if I write a new message, wait 40 seconds until
it is in my outbox and close the editor (I don't send the mail), my mail
is still in the outbox and I can NOT delete or move it from this location.

The only chance to get rid of this mail is to delete the messages.*
files in the filesystem outbox folder.

Please try for yourself!

Thanks,

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Re: Possible Bug...can somebody check this also?

2000-11-02 Thread Juergen Frisch

Hello Juergen,

   on Thursday, November 02, 2000, 09:46, you wrote:

 Now if I write a new message and wait for 40 seconds, I see this message
 in my outbox. If I send it, it will be deleted from this location after
 a successful send. But if I write a new message, wait 40 seconds until
 it is in my outbox and close the editor (I don't send the mail), my mail
 is still in the outbox and I can NOT delete or move it from this location.

 The only chance to get rid of this mail is to delete the messages.*
 files in the filesystem outbox folder.

   Your first message has been saved as draft. Mark it in the outbox
   pane and remove the "draft save icon" near the envelope by clicking
   on it.

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Re: Possible Bug...can somebody check this also?

2000-11-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Juergen,

On 02 November 2000 at 10:00:21 GMT +0100 (which was 09:00 where I
live) Juergen Frisch wrote and made these points:

 The only chance to get rid of this mail is to delete the messages.*
 files in the filesystem outbox folder.

JFYour first message has been saved as draft. Mark it in the outbox
JFpane and remove the "draft save icon" near the envelope by clicking
JFon it.

.. or simply drag to the trash folder and answer "Yes" to the question
about moving parked messages.

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Re[2]: Possible Bug...can somebody check this also?

2000-11-02 Thread Juergen Specht

Hi Juergen,
 The only chance to get rid of this mail is to delete the messages.*
 files in the filesystem outbox folder.

JFYour first message has been saved as draft. Mark it in the outbox
JFpane and remove the "draft save icon" near the envelope by clicking
JFon it.
this made the trick, thanks a lot! This list is really helpful!

Juergen

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Possible bug - Ticker and Editor

2000-10-25 Thread Paul White

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Hello TBUDL,

  Try this:

  Start typing a new message with the Mail Ticker on top. Change one of
  the font settings of the Mail Ticker. Go back to the Editor and you'll
  find that you can't make any further changes to your message. You can
  save it as a draft though and re-open.

  Is this a bug or have I missed something?

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Re: Possible bug - Ticker and Editor

2000-10-25 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Paul,

On 25 October 2000 at 17:58:06 GMT +0100 (which was 17:58 where I
live) Paul White wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Possible bug - Ticker and Editor":

PW   Is this a bug or have I missed something?

Confirmed! I suggest that you submit a bug report to RITlabs (Help --
Feedback -- Bug Report).

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Re[2]: Possible bug(s) with version 1.46d

2000-09-25 Thread Diana Calder

Hello,

Saturday, September 23, 2000, 9:04:06 AM, Marek Mikus wrote:

MM Hello all,
MM Friday, September 22, 2000, Diana Calder wrote:

 I downloaded and installed 1.46d from the RIT Labs site today. Ack!!
 Not good at all. First, it ignored the /LOGIN= and PASSWORD=
 parameters on the shortcut that I've been using just fine with 1.45.

MM Do You use parameter _/LOGIN_ ?

MM for example:
MM thebat.exe /NOLOGO /EXIT /CHECKALL /LOGIN;USER=test;PASSWORD=test;


Yes.  In fact, here's the actual shortcut (which does, in fact, work
just fine with 1.45, and has worked with it all along, which makes the
fact that 1.46d ignored it even more confusing):
"E:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe" /nologo /login;USER=dcalder;PASSWORD=

I'll probably give 1.46d a shot again later in the week when I have
time to play with it some more, but the fact that my mail disappeared
(and no, it wasn't just only showing new messages, the mail was GONE,
only mail received after starting 1.46d showed up at all, in the
folders or in the total counts of messages, but all the folders seemed
to be present) and that all of my filters also vanished was more
upsetting than the problem with the parameters not working.

Diana Calder

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Re: Possible bug(s) with version 1.46d

2000-09-23 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Friday, September 22, 2000, Diana Calder wrote:

 I downloaded and installed 1.46d from the RIT Labs site today. Ack!!
 Not good at all. First, it ignored the /LOGIN= and PASSWORD=
 parameters on the shortcut that I've been using just fine with 1.45.

Do You use parameter _/LOGIN_ ?

for example:
thebat.exe /NOLOGO /EXIT /CHECKALL /LOGIN;USER=test;PASSWORD=test;

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Possible bug(s) with version 1.46d

2000-09-22 Thread Diana Calder

I downloaded and installed 1.46d from the RIT Labs site today. Ack!!
Not good at all. First, it ignored the /LOGIN= and PASSWORD=
parameters on the shortcut that I've been using just fine with 1.45.
Okay, that was really annoying, but not the end of the world. Then it
started up. Well, all of my accounts and folders were present BUT -
each had 0 messages in it (should be anywhere from 2 to 700 in each,
totalling over 1000)!! It picked up a few new messages, including a
couple of TBUDL ones - and promptly dumped them straight into my
Inbox. Ack!! Quick check of the Sorting Office - NO filters, anywhere.
Double ack!! I tried the Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L keyboard shortcut, which
recovered one lost folder (also with 0 messages in it), so at this
point I panicked, exited, reinstalled 1.45 overtop, and POOF!! my
desktop shortcut worked fine, all my messages were back (except the
few that downloaded into 1.46d which are apparently gone forever), and
all my filters were back and working. Anyone else tried 1.46d and had
similar problems? I'm running WinNT 4.0 SP6a and logged in as the
administrator account (always), if that makes any difference in this
instance. Next time, I WILL take the trouble to make a current back-up
of my BAT directory and registry keys before installing an update,
even if it IS a regular (and expected-to-be-reasonably-safe) update,
not a beta...


Diana


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Re: Possible bug(s) with version 1.46d

2000-09-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Diana,

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:25:10 -0400 GMT (23/09/2000, 03:25 +0800 GMT),
Diana Calder wrote:

DC the "flag" column was empty (still there on-screen, but empty)
DC [...] "Flagging" wasn't listed either as an available column or
DC one in use.

No such problem here.

DC First, it ignored the /LOGIN= and PASSWORD= parameters

Wouldn't know; don't use it.

DC Anyone else tried 1.46d and had similar problems?

No problems over here.

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Possible Bug / problem Reply 3

2000-02-18 Thread JWorley


Hi To All You BATty People,

 Thomas wrote:
J  I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed
J  something strange.  Whenever they forward a message to me that has an
J  attached document I do not get the attached file.  The Bat shows that
J  the message has an attachment.  But it will be displayed as something
J  like 7.MSG.  When I open it all I see is a blank message.  If I
J  receive the same forwarded message with another client the attachment
J  will invariably be there and show as Whatever.DOC or Whatsit.XLS.  Is
J  this a bug or am I missing something?  I can provide screen captures
J  to show the problem if necessary.
 
 I receive a lot of .doc and .xls attachments from Outlook users and
 have no problems with it.
 
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 Cheers,
 Thomas.
I did some digging and can now narrow the field a little more.  This
only happens when someone using Outlook receives a message with an
attachment and then forwards that message to me.  Interestingly
enough, the attachment does end up in the Attachment folder undre The
Bat.  I just cannot see the attachment in the message.  This may be an
IE/Win98 problem.  That still does not explain the screen captures I
included last time.  If this happens under TB then it should happen
under any client.

__

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Re: Possible Bug / problem Reply 3

2000-02-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello JWorley,


On  Friday, February 18, 2000  at  13:10:03 GMT -0600 (which was 11:10 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:



 Hi To All You BATty People,

 I did some digging and can now narrow the field a little more.  This
 only happens when someone using Outlook receives a message with an
 attachment and then forwards that message to me.  Interestingly
 enough, the attachment does end up in the Attachment folder undre The
 Bat.  I just cannot see the attachment in the message.  This may be an
 IE/Win98 problem.  That still does not explain the screen captures I
 included last time.  If this happens under TB then it should happen
 under any client.

 Next time you get one of those, open the "attachment" so you see the
 blank message. Then in that window hit ctrl-shift-k. This sounds like
 a problem that I had recently. What it turned out to be was that the
 people forwarding me messages were using GroupWise. For some reason,
 GroupWise removes the blank line that separates Headers from the
 message body. So TB thought that the message was a blank message with
 a whole bunch of headers. That meant to view the message I had to use
 the Show Kludges/Show RFC-822 Headers option. See if that works.


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Re: Possible Bug / problem Reply 3

2000-02-18 Thread tracer

Hello JWorley,
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:10:03 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was Saturday, February 19, 2000, 2:10:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
JWorley wrote:



 Hi To All You BATty People,

  Thomas wrote:
J  I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed
J  something strange.  Whenever they forward a message to me that has an
J  attached document I do not get the attached file.  The Bat shows that
J  the message has an attachment.  But it will be displayed as something
J  like 7.MSG.  When I open it all I see is a blank message.  If I
J  receive the same forwarded message with another client the attachment
J  will invariably be there and show as Whatever.DOC or Whatsit.XLS.  Is
J  this a bug or am I missing something?  I can provide screen captures
J  to show the problem if necessary.
 
 I receive a lot of .doc and .xls attachments from Outlook users and
 have no problems with it.

I dump them and then tell the user that my server zaps exe, doc, xls,
bmp's as attachment and can they please zip or jpeg them and resend...
They do...
I see absolutely no need to have to receive bulky stuff if all they
need to do is to compress before sending it.
I blame it normally as part of antivirus protecion and anyway thats
true.
I have had sofar 2 emails with attachments from MS  which had a macro
virus...


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 Cheers,
 Thomas.
 I did some digging and can now narrow the field a little more.  This
 only happens when someone using Outlook receives a message with an
 attachment and then forwards that message to me.  Interestingly
 enough, the attachment does end up in the Attachment folder undre The
 Bat.  I just cannot see the attachment in the message.  This may be an
 IE/Win98 problem.  That still does not explain the screen captures I
 included last time.  If this happens under TB then it should happen
 under any client.

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Re: Possible Bug / problem Reply 3

2000-02-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi tracer,

On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:33:16 +0700GMT (19/02/2000, 09:33 +0800GMT),
tracer wrote:

 I receive a lot of .doc and .xls attachments from Outlook users and
 have no problems with it.

t I dump them and then tell the user that my server zaps exe, doc, xls,
t bmp's as attachment and can they please zip or jpeg them and resend...
t They do...

I can't do that; even my head office sends me .doc files and .xls
files. That's the difference between regular commercial business
(mine) and computer-related business (yours). It is even an
instruction to send the monthly financial results as Excel files. The
company is over 200 years old; for a German company, I should be happy
that they recognize email as a means of communication (introduced
last year!).

t I see absolutely no need to have to receive bulky stuff if all they
t need to do is to compress before sending it.

Head office even sent me a multi-page powerpoint presentation
uncompressed! I was about to delete the messages with the huge
attachments before downloading, but fortunately saw the sender before
doing that. ;-)

t I blame it normally as part of antivirus protecion and anyway thats
t true.
t I have had sofar 2 emails with attachments from MS  which had a macro
t virus...

My head office has a major firewall does catches more viruses (I
believe that's the most commonly-used plural g). Of course, I have
an always-updated fully-paid AV realtime protection programme running;
an absolute necessity.

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Re: Possible bug / problem

2000-02-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi JWorley,

On  17 February 2000  at  21:44:29 GMT -0600 (which was 03:44 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

J I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed
J something strange. Whenever they forward a message to me that has
J an attached document I do not get the attached file. The Bat shows
J that the message has an attachment. But it will be displayed as
J something like 7.MSG. When I open it all I see is a blank message.
J If I receive the same forwarded message with another client the
J attachment will invariably be there and show as Whatever.DOC or
J Whatsit.XLS. Is this a bug or am I missing something? I can provide
J screen captures to show the problem if necessary.

This  is  not  a  TB  problem  but a problem at the Outlook end. Their
address  book  *must*  show  you as someone unable to read MS Enriched
messages  otherwise  attachments  will  come  through  legible only by
another Outlook / Exchange / MSIM user.

The  usual  format  for  these  PITA  messages  is MS-TNEF. There is a
decoder  available  for  this  format  (mentioned recently in a thread
specifically  about MS-TNEF - check the TBUDL/TBBETA archive) although
I was unable to access the link given.

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Re: Possible bug / problem

2000-02-17 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 16 Feb 00, at 21:44, JWorley wrote
about "Possible bug / problem":

  I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed
  something strange.  Whenever they forward a message to me that has an
  attached document I do not get the attached file.  The Bat shows that
  the message has an attachment.  But it will be displayed as something
  like 7.MSG.  When I open it all I see is a blank message.  

In fact when you open it, you see a _message_having_blank_textual_part, but 
_containing_an_attachment_. Please ensure (in the message viewer!) that you 
have "show attachments automatically" or "always" ticked.

The MIME structure of such messages is: a message, to which another 
message is MIME-attached, this last message having an empty textual part 
and one or more attachments. It's insane structure all right, but M$ mailers are 
made by idiots, always remember this;-)

P.S. My apologies Marck, but this specific case has nothing to do with ms-
tnefs. It's another (although sad also) problem...
P.P.S. This is my last message to TBUDL for (at least:-)) the next 3 weeks, I'm 
temporarily desactivating my subscription since I'm leaving St.Pb tomorrow. 
See ya, guys;-)

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Re: Possible bug / problem

2000-02-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Marck,

On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:03:10 +GMT (17/02/2000, 18:03 +0800GMT),
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

MDP The  usual  format  for  these  PITA  messages  is MS-TNEF. There is a
MDP decoder  available  for  this  format  (mentioned recently in a thread
MDP specifically  about MS-TNEF - check the TBUDL/TBBETA archive) although
MDP I was unable to access the link given.

I believe that was fentun - I did take a look at the web site.
However, I would rather have a possibility to delete this attachment
(like HTML, wouldn't that be nice). When I receive HTML messages in
pine, I only reply back to the sender that I am unable to read it
(which is not entirely true ;-)

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Possible bug / problem

2000-01-21 Thread JWorley

Hi All,
 I have noticed that even though I have set the properties on certain
 folders to delete messages after X number of days, the messages are
 never deleted unless I go into the folders and manually delete them.
  Is this a problem / bug or am I doing something wrong?  I do not
  have any of the messages parked.  Thanks.
 

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Re: Possible bug / problem

2000-01-21 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:46:33 -0600, JWorley wrote:

  I have noticed that even though I have set the properties on certain
  folders to delete messages after X number of days, the messages are
  never deleted unless I go into the folders and manually delete them. Is
  this a problem / bug or am I doing something wrong?  I do not  have any
  of the messages parked.  Thanks.
 
AFAIK, the purges are done only upon exiting TB!.

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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Nick Danger

In Reference to "Possible Bug ??" From Angel:


A Description:
A After selecting multiple emails to REDIRECT, and ticking the "Address All Messages
A To The Address Below" option in popup-box then hitting "OK",
A TB! gets an EAccessViolation message and the program shuts down completely.

Sorry Angel, can't confirm.  I did exactly as you state and it worked
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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 14, 2000 at 09:39:02 ,Thomas scribbled:

TF Angel, how much RAM do you have? I have a suspicion that TB has a
TF problem swapping
128 Megs

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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Nick Andriash

On Friday, January 14, 2000, 11:19:49 AM, Angel wrote:

 Apologies if this sort of Q has been answered before :D

Angel, I'm not sure why, but all of your posts are doubled for some
reason... I'm receiving two exact posts every time... and it only seems to
be with posts originating from you?

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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 14, 2000 at 12:29:43 ,Nick scribbled:

NA Angel, I'm not sure why, but all of your posts are doubled for some
NA reason... I'm receiving two exact posts every time...
Because I posted to both the TBUDL and TBBETA mailing lists.

From: Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: E-mailaholics International
To: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: TBBETA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not this time though because "this" is another topic not related to the "bug" in the
Beta...  didnt need to go to the Beta-list.

Did need to be answered tho... thanks for pointing it out as some new(er) 
list-members may
be confused as well. This is why I have seperate folders for my TBBETA and TBUDL emails
as well as filters set up for the seperate lists pointing to their corresponding 
Folder(s).

I may get them twice, but I always know which list they're on so I can seperate the 
Beta
stuff from TBUDL-general stuff. :D

Regards,
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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 14, 2000 at 11:31:30 ,Allie scribbled:

AM I suggest that you write to Ritlabs about it and leave it at that. :)
AM Just be sure to include exactly what the error message said as you did on
AM the list.
I will, and thanks, Allie :D


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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Nick Andriash

On Friday, January 14, 2000, 12:50:11 PM, Angel wrote:

NA Angel, I'm not sure why, but all of your posts are doubled for some
NA reason... I'm receiving two exact posts every time...

 Because I posted to both the TBUDL and TBBETA mailing lists.

Hmmm... strange then, because I have filters setup for both Lists, and has
been working just fine. I do notice that you had Cc'd to the Beta List, so
I tried to set up another filter for TBBETA to catch those messages with
the Beta List address in the Cc: box, but not sure what "Location", in
Account/Sorting Office/Filters, to use with the filter. Kludges?

My original TBBETA filter has the List Address as "Recipient", but it
didn't seem to catch any messages with the Beta List address in the Cc:
box. How would you set up a filter to catch messages with a certain
address in the Cc: line?



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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread George M. Menegakis

Friday, January 14, 2000, 6:59:10 PM, Angel wrote:

 Hello fellow Bataholics!

 I am using
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 Under Windows 98 4 .10 Build 

 Description:
 After selecting multiple emails to REDIRECT, and ticking the "Address All Messages
 To The Address Below" option in popup-box then hitting "OK",
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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 14, 2000 at 13:29:52 ,Nick scribbled:

NA My original TBBETA filter has the List Address as "Recipient", but it
NA didn't seem to catch any messages with the Beta List address in the Cc:
NA box. How would you set up a filter to catch messages with a certain
NA address in the Cc: line?
MY TBUDL filter:
SOURCE FOLDER: Inbox
STRING: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Location: Sender

SOURCE FOLDER: Inbox
TBBETA filter:
STRING: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Location: Sender

Also keep in mmind that the filters go from top of the list to bottom. So if your
filter-list looks somsething like this:
TBUDL
TBBETA
SomeOtherFilter ,
TB! will look at the TBUDL filter first, then TBBETA and so onwhich is why,
personally, I almost always tick the "override existing filters" box when creating
a new filter.

I have mine set this way, that way it finds TBUDL first. I believe you can set up
"alternative" 's for each filter... it's one of the tabs when you open your
Filter-Options. This confuses me so I don't use them, but I believe you can set as
"alternative rule" within your TBBETA filter it when it's in the CC: address  ...
And you can always add filter strings within an existing filter. Maybe you can put an
additional string in TBBETA's filter for:
CC: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with the LOCATION:  kludges

*shrug* haven't tried that one yet...dunno if you have to
have your VIEW KLUDGES option turned on in your Editor settings or not to use that, 
but I
don't know.
Anyone else have any ideas, or know?? :D

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Filters (was:Re: Possible Bug ??)

2000-01-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Nick,

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:29:52 -0800GMT (15/01/2000, 05:29 +0800GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:

NA Angel, I'm not sure why, but all of your posts are doubled for some
NA reason... I'm receiving two exact posts every time...

 Because I posted to both the TBUDL and TBBETA mailing lists.

NA Hmmm... strange then, because I have filters setup for both Lists, and has
NA been working just fine. I do notice that you had Cc'd to the Beta List, so

Have the same problem here; both messages are being caught be the
first filter, the one for tbudl. I then wanted to change the tbbeta
filter to "override existing filters" - and couldn't find the option
in Sorting Office/Filters! Where is it hiding?

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Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Angel

Hello fellow Bataholics!

I am using
Version 1.39 Beta/1Registered
Under Windows 98 4 .10 Build 

Description:
After selecting multiple emails to REDIRECT, and ticking the "Address All Messages
To The Address Below" option in popup-box then hitting "OK",
TB! gets an EAccessViolation message and the program shuts down completely.

While attempting to Redirect 3 different messages to a single recipient this morning,
I got an EAccessViolation after ticking the box:
Address All Messages..." and selecting the address to send to.

One of the errors read:
Exception EAccessViolation in module THEBAT.EXE at FFc00EE2
Access Violation at address 2126. Read of address  . The #'s changed each 
time
but the wording was the same, and TB! shuts down.

I have attempted redirecting 3 and 2 emails at one time, each time ticking the "Address
all messages..." box and selecting the address to send to, and I got an error each 
time.

To Reproduce:
Go to any folder and select a couple messages. Click REDIRECT, and tick "Address All
Messages..." box. After you're done choosing an address, click OK. You will then get 
the
error and it will shut down TB!.

The "Open Seperate Editor Windows" option does *not* produce an error and opens the
messages fine.
Selecting only *1* message to redirect does not produce the error at all
but opens the message editor up, with the message ready to be addressed. TB! worked 
fine
upon Restore, Restart and Reboot, but the error remained...and still does.

Have no clue as to how to get around this.

Regards,
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*ps: Did I report this correctly? lol This is my first time..didn't want to send to RIT
till you more experienced users can confirm it *is* a bug... thanks :D

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Re: Possible Bug ??

2000-01-14 Thread Angel

Hello there Bataholics!

An afterthought...and also FMPI (For My Personal Information) as I am just
now delving into/learning in-depth tecchy-stuff LOL):
I notice that Thomas and Nick are using Win98 build 1998... I am using
Win98 Build  (Second Edition). Graham "confirmed" using Win NT4 SP5.

Would the Version differences point this problem towards being version-specific? That 
is,
if it's not a swap-problem as Thomas suggested

Apologies if this sort of Q has been answered before :D

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possible bug

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

Hello Everybody,

  can anybody confirm this?

  when i collapse an account, select it (without expanding it) and hit
  the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get:
  'server reports error: the respons is:

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Re: possible bug

1999-12-15 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Roel, 

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 14:04:55 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
R can anybody confirm this?
R when i collapse an account, select it (without expanding it) and
R hit the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get: 'server reports
R error: the respons is:

Nope, I don't have any problems checking collapsed accounts using the
F2 key for either POP or IMAP accounts.



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Re: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Roel,

On  Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:09:01 +0100 you told us :

R   can anybody confirm this?

R when  i  collapse  an account, select it (without expanding it) and
R hit  the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get: 'server reports
R error: the respons is:'

R when i expand the account  hit the F2 key, everything goes fine...
R the  strange  thing  is  that it doesn't happen at all my accounts,
R although they rely on the same settings  mail-server...

I can't confirm this, working fine here.

I've  test  using  Mail  Server  on  LAN  or  connecting  via  Dial Up
NAT/Proxy, no problem.

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Re: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Roel,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:09:01 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 9:09:01 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
Roel wrote:

R   I checked everything  the accounts are exactly the same (apart from
R   the login  password that is)... every setting is identical...

I am not sure about the Network settings per account: do have
account-specific network setting in each account? You should have it
only in one.

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Re[2]: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

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Hello Thomas,

R   I checked everything  the accounts are exactly the same (apart from
R   the login  password that is)... every setting is identical...

TF I am not sure about the Network settings per account: do have
TF account-specific network setting in each account? You should have it
TF only in one.

over here, when i use account-specific settings, it won't give
anything but an error... so i use the general (as in
non-account-specific) setting for all of them...


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Re[2]: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

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Hello Thomas,

R over here, when i use account-specific settings, it won't give
R anything but an error... so i use the general (as in
R non-account-specific) setting for all of them...

TF What if you choose account-specific settings for one of the accounts?

as said above: it'll give an error for that account...
don't know why though...

also, i noticed that now hitting f2 _sometimes_ work...
seems to be random, with a higher chance for an error...


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Re: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Roel,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 16:43:25 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

TF What if you choose account-specific settings for one of the accounts?

R as said above: it'll give an error for that account...
R don't know why though...

R also, i noticed that now hitting f2 _sometimes_ work...
R seems to be random, with a higher chance for an error...

What happens if you hit alt-F2 (check mail for all)?

Are the different addresses on the same server aliases? You might be
able to connect to the POP server with only one connection at a time.

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Re[2]: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

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Hello Thomas,

TF What happens if you hit alt-F2 (check mail for all)?

alt-f2 gives the same problem...

TF Are the different addresses on the same server aliases? You might be
TF able to connect to the POP server with only one connection at a time.

I've got 6 accounts on 1 french pop-server, 3 on the yahoo pop-server
 1 on my isp's pop-server...
multiple simultanious connections work just fine (alt-f2)... but not
always for all the accounts...
sometimes it even goes well for all the accounts, but in general 1 to
3 give an error...

I have completely no idea  it only happens if the accounts are
collapsed... no problems at all (as in never) when the accounts are
expanded...

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