Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:31:24 -0400 GMT (06/08/2005, 23:31 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM Can I do that now(close TB and double-click on that file), or should I HJM wait until after I have set-up all my other accounts? You should have done that before setting up accounts, because it would have saved you work. Now that you have set them up already, I wouldn't reimport the old registry key any more, because you will lose the info you have already typed in. The registry key will be overwritten. Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue setting up accounts. That's my advice. -- Cheers, Thomas. Xerox: The Original Copycats Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:15:00 -0400 GMT (08/08/2005, 01:15 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue setting up accounts. That's my advice. HJM Or what that means, either. It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. -- Cheers, Thomas. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hallo Jack, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. JM But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested. Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file with your registration key that I extracted from it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaxsvLmVbjG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, You got five mod-postings for a single message. That must be a record. On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:46:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) GMT (05/08/2005, 18:46 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM I can't believe that I have to go through all of that just to HJM recover from a simple upgrade. Not usually. You have an unusual problem, and Alexander just described how you can solve it. HJM I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. I thought it was a nice step-by-step instruction. Remember to back-up the registry key, he didn't describe how to do that. HJM I'm going to study your message for a while, and then, if I HJM think I can pull it off, I'll give it a try this weekend at home, HJM when I have time enough to do all those things. Please ask if you have further questions, but make sure you follow the list rules as outlined by the mods. Another thing is that your messages don't thread, which is annoyance to some (including me), so I hope you'll be back to using a professional email client again soon. -- Cheers, Thomas. I was arrested for selling illegal-sized paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Two Bat fiascos out of two Bat upgrades must be some kind of record, too. Unfortunately, I'm basically forced to post this way because I'm posting from a LOUSY, web-based e-mail client that my provider supplies. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to post/read at all. Hopefully you'll bear with me until I can get back to using TB. And, no, I don't expect upgrades to mess things up *this* badly, where I'm basically dead in the water, and backups won't even help me. It's never happened to me before. Ever. And *of course* it was a nice step-by-step set of instructions (and my thanks go out to Alexander for at least trying to help me), provided you're used to doing that kind of stuff. But I'm not. No, he didn't explain how to backup the registry key, so it was a good opportunity for you to do so, or so I would have thought. And the mods can either learn to be more flexible when someone basically has no other choice, or I suppose they could ban me. Because I can't do anything about it right now. Maybe if they spent more time helping me than they're spending slapping me with assorted fish, I'd be up and running by now and able to fully comply with the list's rules. I'm not a scoflaw by nature. No, I'm not in a very good mood right now. And if you think that you're annoyed... Jack -Original Message- From: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 5, 2005 9:10 AM To: Handsome Jack Morrison on TBUDL TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello Handsome, You got five mod-postings for a single message. That must be a record. On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:46:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) GMT (05/08/2005, 18:46 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM I can't believe that I have to go through all of that just to HJM recover from a simple upgrade. Not usually. You have an unusual problem, and Alexander just described how you can solve it. HJM I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. I thought it was a nice step-by-step instruction. Remember to back-up the registry key, he didn't describe how to do that. HJM I'm going to study your message for a while, and then, if I HJM think I can pull it off, I'll give it a try this weekend at home, HJM when I have time enough to do all those things. Please ask if you have further questions, but make sure you follow the list rules as outlined by the mods. Another thing is that your messages don't thread, which is annoyance to some (including me), so I hope you'll be back to using a professional email client again soon. -- Cheers, Thomas. I was arrested for selling illegal-sized paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison everyone else, on 05-Aug-2005 at 13:46 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: I can't believe that I have to go through all of that just to recover from a simple upgrade. I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. Its not so difficult. If you can copy files and install/uninstall program, you're almost there. I didn't describe how to back up the registry settings, but thats not difficult, either. Click Start, Run and type regedit. The registry editor will open. On the left, navigate to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER branch and open it. Locate Software and open it. Locate Rit and right-click it. A popup menu will open, select Export, a file requester will open, enter some name, click on Save and you have successfully backed up TB's registry settings. However, I'm starting to lose confidence in the stability of The Bat. Some local setting at your end got corrupted somehow, and the developers of the program where not aware of this corruption to happen. So, they didn't know that they have to catch it. Out of thousands of users, you've been one of the few unlucky ones with problems. The best thing you can do now is track down the problem and help the developers. But I don't like the way these troubles keep popping up. Neither would I. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Around us are pseudo-events, to which we adjust with a false consciousness adapted to see these events as true and real, and even as beautiful. -- R. D. Laing Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
[] I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. Its not so difficult. If you can copy files and install/uninstall program, you're almost there. We'll see. I didn't describe how to back up the registry settings, but thats not difficult, either. Click Start, Run and type regedit. The registry editor will open. On the left, navigate to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER branch and open it. Locate Software and open it. Locate Rit and right-click it. A popup menu will open, select Export, a file requester will open, enter some name, click on Save and you have successfully backed up TB's registry settings. Thank you, Alexander. I'll give it a try this weekend. Your help is *extremely* appreciated by me. However, I'm starting to lose confidence in the stability of The Bat. Some local setting at your end got corrupted somehow, and the developers of the program where not aware of this corruption to happen. So, they didn't know that they have to catch it. Out of thousands of users, you've been one of the few unlucky ones with problems. The best thing you can do now is track down the problem and help the developers. That's what I'm trying to do, Alexander, but it seems like they're more interested in slapping me with fish because I'm having such a hard time complying with list netiquette, thanks to the LOUSY web-based interface my ISP provides me. I'm going to try to use the Gmane server over the weekend and post through there, using my new copy of Agent 3.0, so that my posts will look prettier to everyone and maybe get all the fish-slapping stopped. But I don't like the way these troubles keep popping up. Neither would I. This message is as conformative as I can make it, given what I have to work with. If it still violates the rules, so be it. -- Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hi Handsome, on Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:55:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)GMT (05.08.2005, 19:55 +0200GMT here), you wrote: HJM This message is as conformative as I can make it, given what I have to work with. HJM If it still violates the rules, so be it. I don't think it does. Even the sig delimiter works in your /inferior/ application. LOL -- Cheers Peter Money is the root of all evil. Send 20 Euro for more info. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison everyone else, on 05-Aug-2005 at 19:55 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: Out of thousands of users, you've been one of the few unlucky ones with problems. The best thing you can do now is track down the problem and help the developers. That's what I'm trying to do, Alexander, but it seems like they're more interested in slapping me with fish ...but thats the business of our evil twisted moderators. ;-) They're not the ones who maintain the program, but have an eye on the list rules, and its the basement for the overall friendly helpful atmosphere here. Most of the developers are not very active on this list (more on TBBETA), but then again, if they had to keep up with all the listmail, they couldn't fix the bugs! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) 'Time' has ceased, 'Space' has vanished. We now live in a global village...a simultaneous happening. -- Alfred North Whitehead Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:31:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) GMT (05/08/2005, 22:31 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM And *of course* it was a nice step-by-step set of instructions HJM (and my thanks go out to Alexander for at least trying to HJM help me), provided you're used to doing that kind of stuff. But I'm not. That's why he posted what to do step-by-step. HJM No, he didn't explain how to backup the registry key, so it was a HJM good opportunity for you to do so, or so I would have thought. Close TB. Windows: Start / Run / Regedit. The registry editor will open. Find the key HK_Current_User / Software / RIT and highlight it. Go File / Export and export the key to a convenient location. For restoring the key after you have followed Alexander's instructions, close TB and double-click on that .reg file. Windows will import it automatically. Open TB and see your settings restored. HJM And the mods can either learn to be more flexible when someone HJM basically has no other choice, or I suppose they could ban me. HJM Because I can't do anything about it right now. Yes, you can. Step 1: Cool down. Step 2: Even with webmail, you can use inline quoting. We are trying to help you here. Cooperation from your side is appreciated. -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: Hey, can you give me another one of those full body cavity searches? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek appears to have abandoned me. Does anyone else have any ideas about how I can get my Bat back? Thanks! Jack -Original Message- From: Handsome Jack Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 5:28 PM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Marek, it didn't work. I got this MS error message: AppName: thebat.exe AppVer: 3.51.10.0 ModName: thebat.exe ModVer: 3.51.10.0 Offset: 005d1d4a Is there anything else I could try? I'm still dead in the water. Thanks! Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 9:24 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? yes, if will be account.srb source of your problem, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, I did what you recommended last night, but The Bat still freezes up at the splash screen. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 9:28 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. try to backup tbuser.def file in MAIL, remove it and restart program. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, I tried what you recommended last night, but TB still freezes at the splash screen and won't load. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? -- Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, I tried what you recommended last night, but TB still freezes at the splash screen and won't load. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? many versions ago there was problem with starting of thebat and removing account.srb file helped. Backup this file and start TB without it, if it helps, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? Thanks again for your help, Marek. Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 8:00 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, I tried what you recommended last night, but TB still freezes at the splash screen and won't load. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? many versions ago there was problem with starting of thebat and removing account.srb file helped. Backup this file and start TB without it, if it helps, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? yes, if will be account.srb source of your problem, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, it didn't work. I got this MS error message: AppName: thebat.exe AppVer: 3.51.10.0 ModName: thebat.exe ModVer: 3.51.10.0 Offset: 005d1d4a Is there anything else I could try? I'm still dead in the water. Thanks! Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 9:24 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? yes, if will be account.srb source of your problem, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: ...nothing... can You be more specific? What happens? Any error or warning? Did You installed new version from scratch or upgraded old one? What system do You have? etc. etc. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
-Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 8:38 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: ...nothing... Oh, come on now. It was more than nothing. can You be more specific? The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. I can leave the computer and come back an hour later (waiting for it to load) and the splash screen is still there and nothing else. The program just won't open. As I explained previously, I reinstalled version 3.5.1 several times, rebooted several times, and still just get the freeze at the splash screen. Then the error message. What happens? Any error or warning? I get the Microsoft error message, and it asks for permission to send it to Microsoft, which I did. Repeatedly. Did You installed new version from scratch or upgraded old one? I upgraded from 3.5 to the newest version, 3.5.1. What system do You have? etc. etc. HP Pavillion Notebook, 512 MB RAM, Windows XP Home, SP2, totally patched and up to date. I know this isn't a great amount of information, but it's all I have at this time. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. try to backup tbuser.def file in MAIL, remove it and restart program. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
-Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 9:28 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. try to backup tbuser.def file in MAIL, remove it and restart program. Okay, I'll try that when I get home tonight. Thanks, Marek. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
