Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hello Allie Martin everyone else 02-Okt-2004 00:49, you wrote: By default there's only a %BLANK in them... Really? I thought the default reply template was this: Not for folders (at least not here). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC3 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 If any man can see both sides of a given problem, you can rest assured that he had a hand in it's creation. -- Todd H. Knight Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hello Alexander S. Kunz everyone else 02-Okt-2004 10:14, you wrote: By default there's only a %BLANK in them... Really? I thought the default reply template was this: Not for folders (at least not here). Argh. Should be not for common folders. Hell, I mix it up all the time (I have no account specific folders other than the default folders and end up falling into this permanently it seems...). Sorry. You're right of course. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC3 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hallo Maria, On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:54:19 +0100GMT (2-10-2004, 23:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR Now I'm confused. What do you mean by common folders? A 'common folder' is a folder that doesn't belong to an account. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows 95: Making Windows work just like a Mac did10 years ago! The Bat! 3.0.1 RC3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp0al6U6Ht8g.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hello Maria, if you want to stop that subject line from happening, like this: Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs click on account-properties, templates, reply template. uncheck the box that says: Use reply numbering in reply. that will stop those Re[2], Re[3]... -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hello Lynn, On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:55:12 -0700 GMT (03/10/2004, 00:55 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: TN TB functions in that way that it choses the Reply-To TN of a message to figure out who the receiver should be. TN And when the Reply-To is [EMAIL PROTECTED], it sends it there. TN Even without folder templates. And I do not think it TN is a design flaw of TB. No, it is actually the RFCs that require such a behaviour. L Actually, I'm not sure TB has anything to do with it; it L is configured for the list at dutaint, I believe. Correct. So that you need to only hit Reply when you want to reply to a message on-list. -- Cheers, Thomas. My parents put us to sleep by tossing us up in the air. Of course, you have to have low ceilings for this method to work. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Leif, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:34:35 PM, you wrote: *All* generalizations are false. :grin: My all time favorite undoubtely is A greek man said: all greeks are liars. \\8^) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, Friday, October 1, 2004, 2:17:47 AM, you wrote: Am writing off list No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 08:22, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Caught by the folder template! *veg* It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness to do the right things at the right time... *veg* -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Dear Thorvald, @1-Oct-2004, 09:22 +0200 (01-Oct 08:22 UK time) Thorvald Neumann [TN] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Alexander: TN It is not the fault of the folder template, Please stop. I have already explained that you are wrong about this. Now you are giving advice based on your incorrect assumptions. TN it's the reply-to setting of the message It isn't. It is because of a folder template overriding that setting. Your folder templates aren't doing any to address modification. Did you even bother to *read* my lecture? No, you can't have done. TN plus user's awareness to do the right things at the right time... TN *veg* That's what my message also said. Please read it again. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.1 RC2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp3nn7VSJuN7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 11:28, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I have already explained that you are wrong about this. I am not wrong on this. YMMV. TB functions in that way that it choses the Reply-To of a message to figure out who the receiver should be. And when the Reply-To is [EMAIL PROTECTED], it sends it there. Even without folder templates. And I do not think it is a design flaw of TB. And I do not see any reason to include a %TO-macro in my mailinglist folder templates. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Listening to: The 5 6 7 8s - Woo Hoo Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Dear Thorvald, @1-Oct-2004, 11:49 +0200 (01-Oct 10:49 UK time) Thorvald Neumann [TN] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: I have already explained that you are wrong about this. TN I am not wrong on this. YMMV. Then you're still not listening :-). TN TB functions in that way that it choses the Reply-To of a message TN to figure out who the receiver should be. Not when you use the Reply to sender function. That's what Lynn did. And it would have worked too, but then her folder template put her right back to square one! TN And when the Reply-To is [EMAIL PROTECTED], it sends it there. Erm ... it's supposed to! That's not a TB behaviour - it's an *all email software* behaviour. And it's what *should* happen. And it's a good thing too. The only bad thing that TB does with it is to munge the list address with the recipient name. This has nothing to do with replying off-list and won't stop you doing so in any way, shape or form. The Reply-to logic has no effect on the Reply to sender function. That takes a folder template to mess it up!!! Folder templates are the only thing that stop Reply to sender from working properly. Ergo - folder templates have dangers. TN Even without folder templates. And I do not think it is a design TN flaw of TB. You're not thinking Thorvald. You're just defending your position. Stop digging, man! Let me teach people to use the software safely without misguided misdirection. My stock lecture also warned about people who say it works for me. Let me do this job in peace, please. You have already mislead Lynn into unwarranted complacency. TN And I do not see any reason to include a %TO-macro in my TN mailinglist folder templates. That's why it all works for you. And also it's why your postings state that the people you are writing to have the address of the mailing list. This is frowned upon. You're talking about a very simple folder template. I'm talking about a folder template /that changes the TO address/. Your templates are not dangerous. That's not the rule though. I'm talking about the rule. You're talking about your innocuous templates and thus using incomplete understanding of the issues. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.1 RC2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp2sA75fpx1u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hello Thorvald, Friday, October 1, 2004, 11:49:32 AM, you wrote: And I do not see any reason to include a %TO-macro in my mailinglist folder templates. I don't know how you write private replies if you need to (off-list), but: with a folder template for replies that mangles the TO field (in the style of %TO=%TO=tbudl...) you end up with a listmail *even* if you right-click the senders mailaddress in the header pane and choose reply to this address, and THATS the problem with folder templates - and it was *perfectly* :) illustrated by Lynn's mail. If you have a high awareness of what you're doing, any time, all the time, you may very well choose to do so, thats your problem, but for the majority of users it is a trap most everyone will stumble into completely unaware, resulting in oops, this message should've been off list excuses (and possible embarrassing details of private conversations) on the list. EOD -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 12:11, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Then you're still not listening :-). I guess I do not get what you mean... ;) Not when you use the Reply to sender function. Of course. If I hit Reply, it automatically uses the Reply-To-address. At least in my TB!-version... Doesn't matter if I click or use CTRL + F5. If I use Reply to all, the sender is placed in To:, the list address in CC. Shift + CTRL + F5. There is no Reply to original sender. That's what is happening here for years now. I do not see what this should have to do with folder templates. The only bad thing that TB does with it is to munge the list address with the recipient name. So you agree to my point? ;) Yes, but what's wrong with it? It gives a nice overview who wrote what on the list. Let me teach people to use the software safely without misguided misdirection. Sorry, I see your lecture as a completely misguided and this leads to great confusion. Perhaps you should work on your wording and make it more userfriendly. This is frowned upon. By who? You're talking about your innocuous templates and thus using incomplete understanding of the issues. I guess it is time to set up a kill filter just for Marck. It is quite offensive to tell someone he is an idiot. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ (who is happily using folder templates) | The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 12:20, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I don't know how you write private replies if you need to (off-list)... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ (who is happily using folder templates) | The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Thorvald Neumann, [TN] wrote: There is no Reply to original sender. Select my message. Now go to the Specials Menu and select Reply to Original Sender. You can access this by simply hitting CTRL-F4. You've generated a message addressed to me and not to the reply-to address which is the list address. The %To macro, when placed in a folder's reply template, will override this 'Reply to original sender' operation by either removing the original senders address and replacing it with the address defined by the %To macro or adding the address. %To=address adds the address in the macro %To=%To=%ofromname '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' removes the address and changes it to the list address. This will catch the passing user. For new messages, the same problem lies when using mailto: url's within messages. If you add %To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to your folder's new message template, it will add the list address to the generated new message If you're not always vigilant, these macros will get you eventually. -- -= Allie =- . Iraqi Bingo B-52..F-16..A-10.. F-18..F-117..B-2 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.1 RC2 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 1) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 13:40, Allie Martin wrote: Select my message. Now go to the Specials Menu and select Reply to Original Sender. Who did place it there? ;) The %To macro, when placed in a folder's reply template, will override this 'Reply to original sender' operation by either removing the original senders address and replacing it with the address defined by the %To macro or adding the address. Yes, I know how this works. I have experimented with that before. %To=address adds the address in the macro %To=%To=%ofromname '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' removes the address and changes it to the list address. This will catch the passing user. For new messages, the same problem lies when using mailto: url's within messages. If you add %To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to your folder's new message template, it will add the list address to the generated new message I guess this is what Marck wanted to tell us, isn't it? ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ (who is happily using folder templates) | The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Thorvald Neumann, [TN] wrote: I guess this is what Marck wanted to tell us, isn't it? ;) Indeed, it was. So it wasn't a lecture against any sort of use of Folder Templates use. Folder templates are OK until you start adding macros that insert addresses in the various fields, i.e., To, CC or BCC. It can be a serious source of embarrassment since we are invariably tired at times or just rushing for some reason. You really don't need a folder template for lists like TBUDL that insert the list address in the reply to header for each message it sends to members. You need only create a single address book entry with the list address as the entries address. Name the entry TBUDL. Create the templates you need to use for the list. You can use whatever specialized template you wish and it will never create a problem for private messaging to members. It doesn't matter what folder the list message ends up in either. Your specialized templates will always be triggered as needed. It's the advantage of address book templates not being bound to folders that attracts me to them. I use them when I can. -- -= Allie =- . Classified tagline. Please enter password: _ ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.1 RC2 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 1) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 14:38, Allie Martin wrote: It's the advantage of address book templates not being bound to folders that attracts me to them. I use them when I can. I see your (and now Marck's) point. But Marck's inability to express what he means, led to this confusion. There are a dozen possibilities to achieve the same effect in TB. I just illustrated the method which I use and which works reasonably well (== for a reasonable, responsible user). -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ (who is happily using folder templates) | The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hello Mark Partous everyone else 01-Okt-2004 15:17, you wrote: What do I do with the folder templates? Delete everything that's in them? By default there's only a %BLANK in them... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC2 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:17:47 -0700 GMT (01/10/2004, 07:17 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: L Am writing off list, And I guess you're using a folder template? g scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Mark Partous, [MP] wrote: I bet I will manage to send messages to all sides of the world, except to the list What do I do with the folder templates? Delete everything that's in them? Leave them alone. They're safe in their default state. They become scary only when you start modifying them with %TO=address/es, %BCC=address/es and %CC=address/es macros. -- -= Allie =- . Honk if you love peace and quiet. ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.1 RC3 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 1) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Alexander S. Kunz, [ASK] wrote: By default there's only a %BLANK in them... Really? I thought the default reply template was this: ,- / \ | Hello %OFromFName, | | %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: | | %Quotes | %Cursor | | -- | Best regards, | %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr `- -- -= Allie =- . If it's stupid and works, then it ain't stupid ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.1 RC3 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 1) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs
Hallo Alexander, On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:27:12 +0200GMT (1-10-2004, 15:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: What do I do with the folder templates? Delete everything that's in them? ASK By default there's only a %BLANK in them... By default they're identical to your account template. -- Groetjes, Roelof That was then, this is now. The Bat! 3.0.1 RC3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp4vQhk7cxhY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hallo Thorvald, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:53:48 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 7:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TN Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always TN contain a MID? No, it should have a MiID, but some users deliberately set their mail client or server to remove the from their message. They obviously don't care about RFCs, nor do they care about proper threading and such. TN I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. We've seen proper list contributions here without MID, as a consequence the replies didn't thread. When there's a MID lacking, it should be inserted by a receiving mail server, however not all servers do that (and when they do all of them give the same message different MIDs) -- Groetjes, Roelof I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp5VNJnAUk3J.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 07:53:48 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. I can't recall exactly in this moment which RFC refers to this, but if you are interested in I could search through my backups, or someone better informed could drop a note instantly. I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 29 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBW/nf9q62QPd3XuIRAlNBAJ4x1iGa3Yiv9tXNFGgPNGWxgE32bQCdFJn2 xeun3gKES5nSIDiMjo+Dum8= =Gd0b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for messages which *do not* contain a certain search string (let's say Message-Id)? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Mica, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:19:44 +0200 GMT (30/09/2004, 19:19 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is MM desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. RFC 2822: Quote 3.6.4. Identification fields Though optional, every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have In-Reply-To: and References: fields as appropriate, as described below. /Quote -- Cheers, Thomas. There is a CD out entitled The Worst of Jefferson Airplane. If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 15:11:24 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for messages which *do not* contain a certain search string (let's say Message-Id)? Probably possible by searching using regexp (F7 / Advanced / Regular expression), but didn't try ever. But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 29 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 16:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: I just searched for Message-ID in the header... And the search told me e.g. 5030 and when the archive folder contains 5060 mails, the rest must be without MID. ;) So I just got the number of mails without MID. Hmmmh, perhaps I should just create a filter and refilter the messages... -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else 30-Sep-2004 09:26, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Alexander, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 9:35:17 AM, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator A LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant, egotist, oppressor. Moderator dies: .MPG at eleven! Moderator Justification No.1: Because I'm the Moderator; that's why! Moderators: Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight. Moderators are NOT Gods. Gods have mercy! Modiphobia - Fear of being nagged by a moderator. Scully, have you ever heard of a race called the Moderators? Support lesser lifeforms ... take a moderator to lunch. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Statistics means never having to say you're certain. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hallo Alexander, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:35:17 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 17:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator ASK LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Nothing important really. I've installed an old tagline file (from the days I was still active on chat echos in Fidonet) from over five years ago. And now my sins come back to haunt me. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person gets to heaven in their own way. The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpnmBb0xDAHM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for t-shirts lol! Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are stolen. and another from my tagline collection... *All* generalizations are false. :grin: Of course you could always check out my site for *TONS* of taglines at: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/taglines/taglines.htm -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
