Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-11 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Gerard,

VBG Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which
VBG process overwhelmed my system how would I go about
VBG preventing it from starting or stopping before or once it is
VBG in action?

G I had the problem this morning on my WIN2K system.
G The way to find the process is to switch to the task manager

I wish I can do that but it'll never launch :( and if it is
already running the system doesn't slow down instead it
really freezes and everything is untouchable.

G found it to be a little programm called VSMON.exe.
G it turns out that VSmon.exe is part of an old friend called ZoneLabs :(

I know but listen to this... On my desktop PC I've seen
those problems and they we're inescapable but I recently got
a notebook PC which is a little less powerful and I haven't
experienced a *freeze* yet.

G I don't know how this is possible but I expected it to be part of the
G mail check thingy Zonelabs has were it deactivates certain file based on
G the extension. I switch that option to No and everything is working now.

Are you talking about E-mail Protection  Mail Safe Setting
  off? If that is what you're talking about thanks I just
 did it as I never download and run anything suspicious
 anyway. Plus I have Micro Trend PC-cillin running :)

 But, if that is not what you're talking about please tell
 me :)

G Hope this helps.

Anything helps and I can only thank you for your input as I
see it was a feature I hardly used anyway.

Thank you Gerard

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Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-10 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Thomas,

VBG It doesn't freeze unless I have the task manager open. What
VBG happens is the system slows down to the point where if I were
VBG to do a figure 8 with the mouse on the screen in one second the
VBG system will still be doing that figure 8 for the next two
VBG minutes.

 Yeah. Sounds like you're CPU resources are completely consumed
 by some errant process.

TF I think so too. Now the question is to find out which process that is.

Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which
process overwhelmed my system how would I go about
preventing it from starting or stopping before or once it is
in action?
  
Thanks :)

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Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Marck,

VBG   without an ounce of change TB *freezes* the entire system.
VBG   ... and Zone Alarm Professional running.

MDP Is this the culprit? I personally recommend Kerio PF over ZAP, which
MDP has caused many people many problems. Especially TB users for some
MDP reason.

I paid good money for ZAP as it came very highly recommended
but I will trade it off instantly for a *free* product that can
help TB just work without halting the system.

Thank you for the input Marck.

Anything else anybody has got to say about the matter and I am
all ears.

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Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Mogens Holst
Hello Allie,

Sunday, December 8, 2002, 22:30, you wrote:

ACM Mogens Holst [MH] wrote:'

MH Same experience here. ZAP was nothing but problems; changed to
MH Kerio and never looked back

ACM Though I have my dislikes for ZAP, a freezing XP system is unlikely
ACM to be secondary to ZAP. It tends to just mess up your internet
ACM connection or interfere with TB!'s connection to POP servers. It
ACM takes something more fundamental to interfere with XP's stability in
ACM that way.

ACM If XP is freezing, I don't think this has anything to do with TB!.

You are probably right and it could just be a coincidence. But I
dismantled ZAP 2 months ago and my problems disappeared - and they
did not come back when I installed Kerio 3 weeks ago .

XP is really stable now. I installed it in January and I have never
had a system before that ran this long before it needed to be
rebuild.
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Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Allie,

ACM It takes something more fundamental to interfere with XP's
ACM stability...

  I agree. XP is the most solid version of Windows I've ever
  played with and I've been playing with Windows since 95.

ACM If XP is freezing, I don't think this has anything to do with TB!.

  I can prove it's The Bat! and not because it's the newest
  app on my system but because right after boot-up the very
  first app I go to launch is The Bat!

It seemed to freeze up on retrieving my mail and
about an hour ago I had to hard boot my PC 15 +
times before restoring an old back-up made it work
again.

 Plus, I've owned XP for just over 8 months and
 I never hard booted my PC like this ever.

ACM How old is your system and does it misbehave in any
ACM other way and with any other apps?

  Never. This is the first time I've ever experienced it and
  my system though it's about 8 months old it's specs more
  than meet the requirements.

ACM If you wait long enough after the freezing, do you get a blue
ACM screen. Do you have to reboot to regain control of your system?

  It doesn't freeze unless I have the task manager open.
  What happens is the system slows down to the point where
  if I were to do a figure 8 with the mouse on the screen in
  one second the system will still be doing that figure 8
  for the next two minutes.

ACM I was blaming IE for my ailing XP system since the BSOD's would
ACM occur mainly while browsing. However, I soon found out it was a
ACM problem with the system BIOS and video drivers.

  I checked with Windows update and notice I am behind one
  critical, 3 regular updates. I will check with SONY about
  any updates for my PC A.S.A.P.

ACM I'd look in that direction rather than blame TB!.

  I really have no choice. I performed a system reformat,
  repartition less than a month ago and every app on my
  system runs in pristine mode.

 I am a real freak in making sure my system is in
 top notch mode free of errors. Besides, today the
 system halted only while dealing with The Bat!

  Funny thing is yesterday it ran all night after rebuilding
  my profile and installing the newest version 1.62. the
  only thing I did that was odd today was restarted the PC
  while TB was still running.

  Is it possible something was still running? I don't know :(
  
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Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Mogens Holst
Hello Allie,

Sunday, December 8, 2002, 23:01, you wrote:

ACM What problems were you having with your system. Was it blue
ACM screening or locking up or were you having network problems that
ACM would only go away for a while after a fresh reboot. The latter is
ACM more typical of ZA.

MH XP is really stable now. I installed it in January and I have
MH never had a system before that ran this long before it needed to
MH be rebuild.

ACM Same here for Win2k and XP here. TB! runs just fine on both systems
ACM and both systems are very stable unless there's a serious problem.
ACM These problems have never been secondary to applications such as
ACM TB!.

It was locking up and I had to reboot. I could not CAD out of it. And
it was only the combination of ZAP and TB! ZAP worked fine with over
network programs.

TB! alone is not giving me any real problems over and  above what can
be expected from a beta BG, and I use it in all three systems with
a commen mail folder on a 4th partition.

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Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Allie,

ACM The only thing I can say is that TB! triggers a problem. Whether the
ACM problem is in fact completely in TB!'s realm of responsibility is
ACM yet to be proven. I naturally doubt this very much since my
ACM experience with TB! is the opposite. I run it 24/7 on my XP system
ACM and throughout all beta's etc for the last year, it has never
ACM interfered with XP. I hope you persevere since I'm sure there's a
ACM culprit.

I'll find it. I will kick in Kerio as soon as possible too
but want to get the network up and running with Kerio before
I finally decide to stick with it.

Thank you a thousand times as it feels good to know not
everyone with XP is having the problem. I want TB! too :)

I will let you know of any updates to my progress as they
come along.

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