Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:55:48 + GMT (05-Mar-14, 03:55 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: That's a known gmail peculiarity. In your POP settings, you have to add recent: before you username in order to receive messages that have already been downloaded by another computer. Example: My username is tom...@thebat.net, so in TB!'s transport settings for mail retrieval by POP, I have recent:tom...@thebat.net set as my username. That's a positive innovation from google. When did they add that? I don't know, but it was there when I started using this email address. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Tuesday 4 March 2014 at 2:39:34 AM, in mid:296363186.20140304093...@thebat.net, Thomas Fernandez wrote: That's a known gmail peculiarity. In your POP settings, you have to add recent: before you username in order to receive messages that have already been downloaded by another computer. Example: My username is tom...@thebat.net, so in TB!'s transport settings for mail retrieval by POP, I have recent:tom...@thebat.net set as my username. That's a positive innovation from google. When did they add that? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Zorba the Greek - before he zorbas you Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Sunday, March 2, 2014, 8:58:52 AM, you wrote: M Hello MFPA, But you are talking about POP accounts Because that's how I access them. M I know, but I mean a POP account at_the_server. Which is a completely M different set up and functionality that IMAP accounts. and, AFAIK, I may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from phone or tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. Well, having started this thread, I would like to bring it back to my problem: which is synching the use of The Bat on two computers so that I can access my accounts from either computer. After having placed a separate installation of TB on my new laptop for several days, and with the situation that each computer has its own message base, and with respect to both gmail and private domain accounts, mail is allowed to remain on the server after download for at least 90 days with respect to gmail, forever, I have been able to determine several things: a. mail on my private domains gets downloaded to both computers, so long as the download is within the time the mail is set to remain on the server b. mail that is sent from one computer is not seen by the other computer unless I copy myself on the message c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will not download to the other computer. When I look at the gmail settings for my account on the internet, I see that POP is enabled for all mail after a given date in 2006; and that IMAP is enabled. Thus, gmail is set up for BOTH POP and IMAP. I like the idea of being able to download the mail to my computer rather than run the risk of having it sit out on a server in the middle of who knows where. So, it seems the only way to ensure that mail on both computers is synched is to use some sort of synching program. On a related thread, Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching folders on two computers. Does everyone agree or do you have other suggestions for this purpose? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP pro sp3 and 6.0.0 on Win7pro Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, Well, having started this thread, I would like to bring it back to my problem: which is synching the use of The Bat on two computers so that I can access my accounts from either computer. You are right, let's get to your problem which, as you have seen, is not easy to solve if at all possible. Well, it would be if you used IMAP, but you are not for that. And I agree with you. ...mail is allowed to remain on the server after download for at least 90 days... I assume this is in your private domain, right? ...with respect to gmail, forever,... And I assume this is with your current setting at Gmail, right? And that you don't want to leave your email at Gmail servers *forever*, right? Otherwise, if you didn't mind, then it would be best to use IMAP. b. mail that is sent from one computer is not seen by the other computer unless I copy myself on the message AFAIK, that is normal using POP accounts, CCing yourself wouldn't be needed with IMAP (I think). c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will not download to the other computer. That's because it is marked as read with the first download. When I look at the gmail settings for my account on the internet, I see that POP is enabled for all mail after a given date in 2006; and that IMAP is enabled. Thus, gmail is set up for BOTH POP and IMAP. That is my setup too, so I can access my email (by IMAP) from my phone and tablet. Have you tried to disable IMAP? I have not tried myself, but maybe doing so the account would just be (or behave) like a normal POP account like in your private domain. Why don't you crate a new Gmail account just for testing this? I like the idea of being able to download the mail to my computer rather than run the risk of having it sit out on a server in the middle of who knows where. Same here. That is why my setting in Gmail is delete Gmail's copy. The only problem, which I don't mind at all, is that after I download messages with TB those messages will not be available from my tablet or phone. So, it seems the only way to ensure that mail on both computers is synched is to use some sort of synching program. On a related thread, Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching folders on two computers. Does everyone agree or do you have other suggestions for this purpose? I do. But I will still suggest creating a second Gmail account, disable IMAP and test. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, On Monday, March 03, 2014 you wrote: -- snip -- A On a related thread, Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home A network Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching A folders on two computers. If you decide to use WUALA, I'd love to know if it does what you need it to do. After the initial setup the only hiccup I have ever experienced with WUALA is a *sometimes* message that tells me that WUALA had to close because of a program conflict. This always happens in the middle of the night when my computer is not being used by me but is engaged in crowd software solving the world's problems. It never happens during the times I'm using the computer. Simply re-starting WUALA gets it going again. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Monday 3 March 2014 at 9:52:33 AM, in mid:253407162.20140303035...@gmail.com, Achdut18 wrote: b. mail that is sent from one computer is not seen by the other computer unless I copy myself on the message That's normal. c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will not download to the other computer. That's a known gmail peculiarity. So, it seems the only way to ensure that mail on both computers is synched is to use some sort of synching program. On a related thread, Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network Jack La Rosa recommended www.wuala.com to use for synching folders on two computers. Does everyone agree or do you have other suggestions for this purpose? I have long thought about using a local POP server to download my messages from all accounts, and then pointing my TB! installation at that local server. I spent a couple of evenings looking into this again a few weeks ago, but drew a blank in the end. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Two wrongs don't make a right. But three lefts do. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:30:51 + GMT (04-Mar-14, 03:30 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: c. once gmail is downloaded to one computer, it will not download to the other computer. That's a known gmail peculiarity. In your POP settings, you have to add recent: before you username in order to receive messages that have already been downloaded by another computer. Example: My username is tom...@thebat.net, so in TB!'s transport settings for mail retrieval by POP, I have recent:tom...@thebat.net set as my username. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Saturday 1 March 2014 at 4:05:13 PM, in mid:1004288919.20140301170...@gmail.com, MAU wrote: But you are talking about POP accounts Because that's how I access them. and, AFAIK, I may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from phone or tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. I don't know the specifics of how they set it up. I always considered it to be webmail that allowed POP/SMTP just like yahoo, with the extra of IMAP access just like gmx. I suspect it is a deliberate decision by google, just like not allowing POP download of incoming messages when you were the sender of the message. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Ballerinas are always on their toes. We need taller ballerinas! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello MFPA, But you are talking about POP accounts Because that's how I access them. I know, but I mean a POP account at_the_server. Which is a completely different set up and functionality that IMAP accounts. and, AFAIK, I may be wrong, Gmail is an IMAP account that allows access by POP. In my case, I can access my account from phone or tablet as IMAP, and from TB as POP. I don't know the specifics of how they set it up. I always considered it to be webmail that allowed POP/SMTP just like yahoo, with the extra of IMAP access just like gmx. Gmail is the other way around. It is IMAP which allows POP/SMTP. Webmail does not define the type of server (and service), it just a way of accessing it, an e-mail client. You can access IMAP, as IMAP, with TB and many other clients too. just like not allowing POP download of incoming messages when you were the sender of the message. I must admit that is a bit peculiar, yes. But, on the other hand, I guess they assume that if you sent the message you will already have a copy of it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hi On Sunday 2 March 2014 at 2:58:52 PM, in mid:552309560.20140302155...@gmail.com, MAU wrote: Webmail does not define the type of server (and service), it just a way of accessing it, an e-mail client. You can access IMAP, as IMAP, with TB and many other clients too. I would have said webmail exactly defines a service, although some webmail providers also enable (and may charge for) other interfaces such as POP/SMTP or IMAP. And some providers of POP or IMAP email accounts provide a webmail interface, or users can use portals such as mail2web. I must admit that is a bit peculiar, yes. But, on the other hand, I guess they assume that if you sent the message you will already have a copy of it. And we all know what assume does. Ass u me. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net The truth is rarely pure and never simple Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Gmail ignores whatever is set in your email client. When you set up POP, you have to choose between mark Gmail copy as read and Delete Gmail copy at the website. Gmail also has the nasty habit of breaking email clients (the error log fills up with web login required if you access the Internet with a different IP address. Not unusual at all for people with laptops who travel. Adrian Saturday, March 1, 2014, 12:34:09 PM, you wrote: I guess this depends on gmail's interpretation of your settings, which may differ from everybody else's. For my gmail account, which I access by POP, the messages appear to be deleted once downloaded despite my TB! setting to leave them on server for X days afterwards. As well as being no longer available by POP, messages I have downloaded are immediately missing via the gmail web interface Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Adrian, Gmail ignores whatever is set in your email client. That is true. When you set up POP, you have to choose between mark Gmail copy as read and Delete Gmail copy at the website. I have four options: - delete Gmail's copy - keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox - mark Gmail's copy as read - archive Gmail's copy -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.2 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, On Thursday, February 27, 2014, you wrote: OK. Anxious to set up TB! on my new laptop, I was unable to wait for a response to my most recent post, and went ahead and followed the advice that Thomas Fernandez gave in his post from Feb. 18, 2014. snip In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or removed ! I now use Second Copy, which you can trial with no usage restrictions during the trial, or just RAR up the whole TB! directory structure and transfer like that. I use RAR rather than ZIP as it seems the resulting file is more compact, and its error checking is better. Quite why something as important and basic as an internal backup and restore function in an e-mail client remains broken and regularly reported as such, while frivolities are added, I have no idea :( -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Chris, Thursday, February 27, 2014, 2:19:38 AM, you wrote: CW Hello Achdut18, CW On Thursday, February 27, 2014, you wrote: OK. Anxious to set up TB! on my new laptop, I was unable to wait for a response to my most recent post, and went ahead and followed the advice that Thomas Fernandez gave in his post from Feb. 18, 2014. CW snip CW In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally CW unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or CW removed ! CW I now use Second Copy, which you can trial with no usage restrictions CW during the trial, or just RAR up the whole TB! directory structure and CW transfer like that. I use RAR rather than ZIP as it seems the CW resulting file is more compact, and its error checking is better. Thanks, Chris, I followed your advice and was able to just copy the whole TB directory. I didn't use ZIP or RAR; I just copied and pasted, although it took a while. Now there is a new problem: I downloaded e-mail from all my gmail accounts and discovered that e-mail downloaded on to one computer does not then load on to the second computer when mail is downloaded to the second computer. In the wee hours of the morning, this is not a problem, as there are few messages being sent, and they are most unimportant. G-mail is left on the server forever, so it's not as if it is being deleted upon download. Moreover, I can still see the newly downloaded e-mail on my cell phone. So, why does a download to one computer on the network preclude a download of the same mail to the second computer?Is it because the computers are using the IP address on the public side of the modem?If so, is there any solution besides using a synchronization program? Synchronization is fine while both computers are inside on the same network.But, if I go away for a business trip for a 2-4 days, and I download mail, then my wife won't see it until I return. Is there a solution? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 and 6.0.0 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Achdut18, Now there is a new problem: I downloaded e-mail from all my gmail accounts and discovered that e-mail downloaded on to one computer does not then load on to the second computer when mail is downloaded to the second computer. In the wee hours of the morning, this is not a problem, as there are few messages being sent, and they are most unimportant. G-mail is left on the server forever, so it's not as if it is being deleted upon download. Moreover, I can still see the newly downloaded e-mail on my cell phone. AFAIK, you see email in your cell phone because it is using IMAP to access your account. What are you using in TB, POP or IMAP? If POP, what is your setting for When messages are accessed with POP in Settings - Forwarding and POP/IMAP in your Gmail account? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.3.0.1 (ALPHA) My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
Hello Chris, On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 08:19:38 + GMT (27-Feb-14, 15:19 +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or removed ! Well, I have used the internal backup and restore facility at several occasions and have never had a problem (since v3 or so). Just did it again on my new office computer earlier this month. As convenient and error-free as can be. @Achdut: The only one time I had a problem was when the external HDD to whch I had backed up was faulty. Please check for hardware problems. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.2.6 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
In my experience TB's internal backkup and restore is totally unreliable, and has been for years. It should either be repaired or removed ! Well, I have used the internal backup and restore facility at several occasions and have never had a problem (since v3 or so). Just did it again on my new office computer earlier this month. I have on several occasions (including, just recently, copying my TB user directories and settings over to a new Win 7 desktop from my not-so-new Win 7 laptop) used the backup/restore functionality with complete success. Obviously, YMMV... These procedures were originally done with V.2.04.7, and have since (maybe the last 5 years or so) been done with V.4.2.44.2. [I still miss using ol' V.2.04.7, though... sniff] I do have to say that, many years ago, with V.2.04.7, I did try incremental (i.e., create an update to an existing archive) backups for a short time (it seemed like a nice idea) and did get flaky results, but I since then (for about the last 14 years now, I think) I have used the complete (i.e., standard) method with complete success. I routinely make two backups - one backup of just my settings and address book, and one a complete backup - every couple of months or so, just for safety's sake. However, when I set up a new installation of a new PC, I make a fresh pair of backups just before restoring TB on the new PC. Fred Using TheBat V.4.2.44.2 for POP3 mail with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to restore from backup to new laptop
OK. Anxious to set up TB! on my new laptop, I was unable to wait for a response to my most recent post, and went ahead and followed the advice that Thomas Fernandez gave in his post from Feb. 18, 2014. a. I downloaded the .msi file for thebat_pro_6-0-0.msi to my laptop, as copied from my older computer and ran it. b. I also plugged into the laptop an external hard drive, which had a backup folder with the file, autobackup.tbk. c. When I opened the newly installed TB! on my laptop, I was prompted to designate a location for the data file and specified the default location (The Bat! in Application Data). d. I then was prompted to either set up an account or restore from backup. I restored from the .tbk file on my external hard drive. Initially, I was asked which of my accounts I wanted to restore and specified all of them. e. Next, the Maintenance Center appeared saying Restore is in progress. Please wait - it can be a long process... But almost immediately an access violation pop up appeared. I clicked ok and it disappeared, but the Maintenance Center was left hanging.No progress showed in the window, and I couldn't cancel or delete it. After about a half hour, I used Task Manager to shut down TB!. f. I uninstalled the TB! I also tried to use System Restore to go back to a point in time prior to installation of the TB!. The laptop refused to complete that process and suggested my anti-virus was preventing that from taking place. However, disabling the anti-virus did not resolve this problem, so, I gave up trying to use system restore. g. Since TB! had successfully uninstalled, I tried to reinstall TB! TB! reinstalled, but this time, I was not prompted about which accounts to set up or download from system restore, nor was I prompted to choose a location for the data files. Also, this time, when TB! opened, the folder tree showed all my accounts, but they were all empty! 10. I went to tools/restore in TB! and attempted to restore from the file on the external harddrive. The same thing happened as before: an access violation pop up appeared. This time it reads: Access violation at address 00DE7C52 in module TheBat.exe. Read of address . I clicked OK and exited out of this; however I did leave the maintenance center open even though no progress is appearing in the window. I will leave this where it is at all night, but I expect nothing to come of it. So, why am I getting an access violation message? Does it have anything to do with the fact that the backup was created by ver. 5.8.2 of TB!, but I used the 6.0.0 msi file to set up TB on my laptop? And while this is not, strictly a TB issue, does anyone know why my computer won't go to a restore point that immediately precedes the installation of the software? -- Avi Using The Bat ver. 5.8.2 on Win XP Pro sp3 BUT trying to set up The Bat ver. 6.0.0 on Win 7 Pro, on a Lenovo T430s. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hallo Eddie, On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:33:59 +0200GMT (20-4-2009, 7:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: EC I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a EC particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. Maybe too old or something like that? You can set that at the folder properties. Or did you move them to another folder than you thought? EC I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this EC possible? Yes, take note that this will overwrite the urrent contents of that folder. So might want to move/copy the current messages to a different location. EC What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. Then EC I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages and EC Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure what is EC coming next. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof User - a technical term used by computer pros. See idiot. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.11.15 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5lcO0vFwh7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Roelof Otten Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:35:03 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Eddie, RO On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:33:59 +0200GMT (20-4-2009, 7:33 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: EC I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a EC particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. RO Maybe too old or something like that? You can set that at the folder RO properties. Or did you move them to another folder than you thought? EC I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this EC possible? RO Yes, take note that this will overwrite the urrent contents of that RO folder. So might want to move/copy the current messages to a different RO location. EC What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. Then EC I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages and EC Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure what is EC coming next. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? RO Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. What about using import? All you then can do wrong is generate duplicates which can be filtered out... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Dear tracer, --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 07:57:52 Restore from backup EC Any help? If you know a text or so which is guaranteed somewhere do a search over all the msgs and select ONE line where you select what to search for. Keep it simple so that if its somewhere you will find in. Then check where its sitting if you find it... Note you can also select 'last week' and *.* for the file name so you find anything saved in the last week... You should know what will give a bulls-eye! If you still have the backup file you likely have to do the restore again. Doesnt matter anyway if do it more then once as you would get duplicated email and you can get rid of those I've done this to no avail. I think I must do a restore. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Dear Roelof, --- Roelof Otten / Montag 20.04.2009, 09:35:03 Restore from backup EC I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a EC particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. Maybe too old or something like that? You can set that at the folder properties. Or did you move them to another folder than you thought? I did a change in name of the folder and moved some folders into a subfolder. Still can't find them. EC I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this EC possible? Yes, take note that this will overwrite the urrent contents of that folder. So might want to move/copy the current messages to a different location. Ok will be carful. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. Nice. Also in the older v4.0.38? -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Eddie Castelli Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:48:46 PM, you wrote: EC Dear tracer, EC --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 07:57:52 EC Restore from backup EC Any help? If you know a text or so which is guaranteed somewhere do a search over all the msgs and select ONE line where you select what to search for. Keep it simple so that if its somewhere you will find in. Then check where its sitting if you find it... Note you can also select 'last week' and *.* for the file name so you find anything saved in the last week... You should know what will give a bulls-eye! If you still have the backup file you likely have to do the restore again. Doesnt matter anyway if do it more then once as you would get duplicated email and you can get rid of those EC I've done this to no avail. I think I must do a restore. KEEP a copy of latest backup and how big is the file. Hoe many months data is in it. and HOW big is the file if rarred??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Dear tracer, --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 11:53:00 Restore from backup RO Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. What about using import? All you then can do wrong is generate duplicates which can be filtered out... This, as I understand, can only be done with a normal MSG file and not with a backup file. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Eddie Castelli Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:53:08 PM, you wrote: EC Dear tracer, EC --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 11:53:00 EC Restore from backup RO Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. What about using import? All you then can do wrong is generate duplicates which can be filtered out... EC This, as I understand, can only be done with a normal MSG file and not EC with a backup file. you are talking about a backup done from the bat??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Dear tracer, --- tracer / Montag 20.04.2009, 13:49:11 Restore from backup EC This, as I understand, can only be done with a normal MSG file EC and not with a backup file. you are talking about a backup done from the bat??? Yes! :) -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Dear Roelof, --- Roelof Otten / Montag 20.04.2009, 09:35:03 Restore from backup EC What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. EC Then I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages EC and Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure EC what is coming next. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? Yes, it will even let you choose a specific folder. Not quite. In my v4.0.38 it asks first for the file, then the account and here it goes. It restores that whole account without asking which folder. But, it does not overwrite what has being added after the backup. BTW, the problem was as follows. I had moved some Folders to another location. In the Filter I renamed those old folder names to something different but forgot to do so with the folders itself. I guess when I applied the filter those folders where created but did not show (strangely) in the account. Looking with Explorer revealed the folders where there with all the mails in it. But now all is fine. Thanks. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Restore from backup
Dear all, I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this possible? What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. Then I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages and Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure what is coming next. Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? Any help? -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore from backup
Hello Eddie Castelli Monday, April 20, 2009, 12:33:59 PM, you wrote: EC Dear all, EC I miss some msg from one particular account. I moved them to a EC particular folder. Today I find they aren't there anymore. EC I want to restore the inbox from one particular account. Is this EC possible? EC What I have done: I started Restore and added the backup file. Then EC I selected out of the 5 checkboxes only the second Messages and EC Folders. I didn't hit return at this moment as I am not sure what is EC coming next. EC Question: does it ask me or let me choose the account also? EC Any help? If you know a text or so which is guaranteed somewhere do a search over all the msgs and select ONE line where you select what to search for. Keep it simple so that if its somewhere you will find in. Then check where its sitting if you find it... Note you can also select 'last week' and *.* for the file name so you find anything saved in the last week... You should know what will give a bulls-eye! If you still have the backup file you likely have to do the restore again. Doesnt matter anyway if do it more then once as you would get duplicated email and you can get rid of those -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: restore from backup
Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 3:34 AM Raj Select the text and press F4 Raj ps: Since quite a few read the messages threaded, its better Raj to start a new Raj topic with a new mail...this will ensure faster response. Raj, It's working now. I had a setting wrong. Thanks for your patience! Best regards, Shoebuddy ~~~ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: restore from backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On Monday, February 11, 2002 at 20:14:46 +0100, Peter Meyns [PM] wrote concerning 'restore from backup': ... PM If there is anything else that could cause this failing of PM *complete* backup, please let me know. How did you backup? Did you use the internal backup feature? And what did you backup? I myself never used the internal backup of TB!. I always backup by zipping the whole TB!-folder with an external app* and backup the registry using a script. I never had any problems using this method and I never lost any mail. * Second Copy 2000 which backups every two hours. - -- Best regards, David ** The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.8 m/s^2 ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/39] [Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPGk1F1K9yf5+yp9NEQLQ9wCfW0sTj5twnRp+OspfTg6RohibL3UAnR3t XIsFHqeXC6vHQjCYH0rUh2ea =562/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: restore from backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:30:27 +0100GMT (which was 12.02.02, 17:30 +0100GMT where I live), David van Zuijlekom wrote this about restore from backup: DvZ How did you backup? Did you use the internal backup feature? And what DvZ did you backup? Hi David, I used TB!'s internal backup function and selected everything of all accounts. I could restore all accounts and folders including all templates, addressbooks etc. Only the mailbase seems to have been backed up more or less randomly...(?) DvZ I myself never used the internal backup of TB!. I always backup by DvZ zipping the whole TB!-folder with an external app It looks like I should get me something like that too. - -- Cheers Peter Winamp currently playing: Neil Young - Let's Roll -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication :-) iQA/AwUBPGlAkQM2UgbhB3TOEQIa+wCgs4YtDJmIymPdwWgAallFdSSiPd0Anii5 SCSuvtSzzF2HDEsRNf0/p2Sd =pON5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: restore from backup
Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 8:33 PM Hi everyone, I'm new and have a couple of questions about The Bat! which I can't seem to answer. Here they are: 1) How do I search through **all mailboxes** for a message? Text in message, sender, etc.? 2) How do I search through a particular mailbox for a message or a particular folder? 3) how to I copy a bit of quotable text to the message I want to write? Thanks everyone! Shoebuddy -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: restore from backup
ON Tuesday, February 12, 2002, 6:20:43 PM, you wrote: Peter -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Peter Hash: SHA1 Peter On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:30:27 +0100GMT (which was 12.02.02, 17:30 +0100GMT Peter where I live), David van Zuijlekom wrote this about restore from backup: DvZ How did you backup? Did you use the internal backup feature? And what DvZ did you backup? Peter Hi David, Peter I used TB!'s internal backup function and selected everything of all Peter accounts. I could restore all accounts and folders including all Peter templates, addressbooks etc. Only the mailbase seems to have been Peter backed up more or less randomly...(?) DvZ I myself never used the internal backup of TB!. I always backup by DvZ zipping the whole TB!-folder with an external app Peter It looks like I should get me something like that too. Peter - -- Peter Cheers Peter Peter Peter Winamp currently playing: Neil Young - Let's Roll Peter -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Peter Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Peter Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication :-) Peter iQA/AwUBPGlAkQM2UgbhB3TOEQIa+wCgs4YtDJmIymPdwWgAallFdSSiPd0Anii5 Peter SCSuvtSzzF2HDEsRNf0/p2Sd Peter =pON5 Peter -END PGP SIGNATURE- Hi Peter, I had a similar proble yesterday. Thebackup wold stop at a certain folder and say something like can´t acces folder \\xyz\inbox\power user. I tried creting th folder on disk but that didnt help.´I then restored everting except the mail folders and deleted the folder power user. I lost themail in that folder but all other mail retored fine. I have no idea what the problem was but I feel TB! shuld not have stopped there. I started with a complete new installation and TB! started restoring top down, nothing random about that. Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here-- The boys throw rocks at the frogs in jest. But the frogs die in earnest. - Bion - Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
