Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-27 Thread Johannes Posel

Hi there Douglas,

Going back 06:22 27.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

 Don't use the above. Use only the following.

Nope, sorry, you're wrong. SMTP AUTH is what he wants to use, and what
he set in his GMX properties on the web site. GMX supports it:

gatekeeper:~ # telnet mail.gmx.net 25
Trying 194.221.183.20...
Connected to mail.gmx.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 GMX Mailservices ESMTP
EHLO pp
250-GMX Mailservices
250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
QUIT
221 GMX Mailservices
Connection closed by foreign host.
gatekeeper:~ # 

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Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-27 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Douglas,

On Saturday, January 27, 2001 23:22:48 [ -0600 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

JR POP.GMX.co.uk
JR MAIL.GMX.co.uk

Douglas Both are correct.

JR Authentication:

Douglas Use only the following.

JR Use POP before SMTP authentication

Douglas I forgot to mention that the user should be the number you
Douglas received (remember that you need use pop before smtp).

  Thanks, Douglas. Appreciate the help. I tried everything everyone
  suggested without success. From the gitgo I was able to retrieve msgs
  but never once able to access the GMX SMTP server. I've un-subscribed
  from GMX.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-27 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Johannes,

On  27  January  2001 at 14:13:39 +0100 (which was 13:13 where I live)
Johannes Posel wrote and made these points:

This  one  is getting very techy ... please can you move any responses
to TBTECH.

JP Hi there Douglas,

JP Going back 06:22 27.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

 Don't use the above. Use only the following.

JP Nope, sorry, you're wrong. SMTP AUTH is what he wants to use, and what
JP he set in his GMX properties on the web site. GMX supports it:

JP gatekeeper:~ # telnet mail.gmx.net 25
JP Trying 194.221.183.20...
JP Connected to mail.gmx.net.
JP Escape character is '^]'.
JP 220 GMX Mailservices ESMTP
JP EHLO pp
JP 250-GMX Mailservices
JP 250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
JP 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
JP 250-PIPELINING
JP 250 8BITMIME
JP QUIT
JP 221 GMX Mailservices
JP Connection closed by foreign host.
JP gatekeeper:~ #

JP Cheers,
JP  Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re[3]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-26 Thread Craig S. Reeder

Hello Jan,

Thursday, January 25, 2001, 5:14:22 PM, you wrote:

  Why don't you tell me exactly what settings of mine you need to see to
   compare them to yours. If they are essentially the same, then we know
   the problem is elsewhere. My next step would be to see if it has to do
   with the fact that I am connecting from the US. If so, then I'll have
   to find another mail server. At this juncture GMX is pretty useless to
   me. For sure, it shouldn't be this difficult.


I've been lurking on this topic and I can offer you my settings for
GMX. It works for me. I of course have chosen GMX's most secure SMTP
setting and applied it at their site. In my GMX properties SMTP
authentication dialog box I chose "perform SMTP authentication (RFC
2554)", then "use specific settings", then put my user ID number given to
me by GMX when I signed up in the "Username" spot, followed by my
password in the "Password" spot. That's all that is checked on that
page. GMX's SMTP server is mail.gmx.net - pop server is pop.gmx.net

I hope this is what you were looking for and that it can help you. It
does work without error for me.

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Re[3]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-26 Thread Craig S. Reeder

Hello Jan,

Thursday, January 25, 2001, 5:14:22 PM, you wrote:

  Why don't you tell me exactly what settings of mine you need to see to
   compare them to yours. If they are essentially the same, then we know
   the problem is elsewhere. My next step would be to see if it has to do
   with the fact that I am connecting from the US. If so, then I'll have
   to find another mail server. At this juncture GMX is pretty useless to
   me. For sure, it shouldn't be this difficult.


I've been lurking on this topic and I can offer you my settings for
GMX. It works for me. I of course have chosen GMX's most secure SMTP
setting and applied it at their site. In my GMX properties SMTP
authentication dialog box I chose "perform SMTP authentication (RFC
2554)", then "use specific settings", then put my user ID number given to
me by GMX when I signed up in the "Username" spot, followed by my
password in the "Password" spot. That's all that is checked on that
page. GMX's SMTP server is mail.gmx.net - pop server is pop.gmx.net

I hope this is what you were looking for and that it can help you. It
does work without error for me.
  

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Re[4]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-26 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Craig, Thanks for your note.

On Friday, January 26, 2001 07:49:17 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

Craig [...] I can offer you my settings for GMX. [...] have chosen
Craig GMX's most secure SMTP setting and applied it at their site. In
Craig my GMX properties SMTP authentication dialog box I chose "perform
Craig SMTP authentication (RFC 2554)", then "use specific settings",
Craig then put my user ID number given to me by GMX when I signed up in
Craig the "Username" spot, followed by my password in the "Password"
Craig spot. That's all that is checked on that page. GMX's SMTP server
Craig is mail.gmx.net - pop server is pop.gmx.net [...]

  My own settings looked something like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
password= **
Cust # ***

POP3 = pop.gmx.co.uk
SMTP = mail.gmx.co.uk

Authentication = RFC 2554

  I changed all the settings to reflect yours w/o result. I remember
  reading something when I signed on to GMX about US subscribers doing
  something different but I can't find/remember the instruction. I'm
  beginning to think that this has something to do with the problem.

  But, then, I can't SMTP from Yahoo! either.

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Re[5]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-26 Thread Craig S. Reeder

Hello Jan,

Friday, January 26, 2001, 8:48:02 AM, you wrote:

   I changed all the settings to reflect yours w/o result. I remember
   reading something when I signed on to GMX about US subscribers doing
   something different but I can't find/remember the instruction. I'm
   beginning to think that this has something to do with the problem.

   But, then, I can't SMTP from Yahoo! either.


When you originally signed up with GMX, did you choose the "co.uk"
address? There was a note on the GMX site that suggested any US
addresses use the "gmx.net" suffix. Did you maybe use choose that and
think you chose the "co.uk" suffix? Also, is there anyway that your
ISP prevents you from using any SMTP other than theirs? I once used an
ISP that wouldn't let me use other SMTP servers.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-26 Thread Douglas Hinds



Hello Jan  others on TBUDL following this thread,

Monday, January 22, 2001,  you stated regarding using GMX accounts:

JRTo any of you who use GMX mail servers, I am having some difficulty
JRusing this server w TB!. I rcv eMail ok but can't send.

JRCurrent settings are:

JR POP.GMX.co.uk
JR MAIL.GMX.co.uk

Both are correct.

JR Authentication:
JR Use RFC 2554 protocol
JR Use settings of Mail Retrieval

Don't use the above. Use only the following.

JR Use POP before SMTP authentication

Douglas

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Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-25 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Johannes,

On Thursday, January 25, 2001 19:09:05 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

Johannes Then, provided you really supplied the associated GMX address in the
Johannes "SMTP From:" and GMX SMTP Servers are consolidated, it should work. Im
Johannes sorry, but it really should work.

  Why don't you tell me exactly what settings of mine you need to see to
  compare them to yours. If they are essentially the same, then we know
  the problem is elsewhere. My next step would be to see if it has to do
  with the fact that I am connecting from the US. If so, then I'll have
  to find another mail server. At this juncture GMX is pretty useless to
  me. For sure, it shouldn't be this difficult.

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Re[3]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Jan,

...
JR   Result: I can rcv mail but I can't send mail.

AFAIK gmx does not allow you to use a FROM (and REPLYTO?) address
other then the one you are logged in under.
E.g., the one and only FROM I can use under this gmx account
is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re[5]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Jan,

JR Hello Wolfgang, Thanks for this tip

So your problem is solved?

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Re[6]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Wolfgang,

On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 17:24:43 [GMT +0100], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

Wolfgang So your problem is solved?

  Nope. Unfortunately I can't say this.  Any further thoughts would be
  welcomed. TIA

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Johannes Posel

Hi there Jan,

Going back 17:51 23.01.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

   Nope. Unfortunately I can't say this.  Any further thoughts would be
   welcomed. TIA

What is your setting in the WebInterface http://www.gmx.de after Login
and selecting Options - Security?

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Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Johannes,

On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 18:42:04 [GMT +0100], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

Johannes What is your setting in the WebInterface http://www.gmx.de after Login
Johannes and selecting Options - Security?

  GMX Settings:
  SMTP with Login
  RFC-2554

  
  

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Re[4]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread SyP

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Hello Wolfgang,

You wrote on 1/23/2001, 9:10 AM:

Wolfgang AFAIK gmx does not allow you to use a FROM (and REPLYTO?)
Wolfgang address other then the one you are logged in under.

Actually, only FROM address is mandatory, changing REPLY-TO is
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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Thomas!

On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 at 4:22:36 AM you wrote:

 Just thought of something: IIRC the SMTP server needs your customer
 number, not your login name, to authenticate you. If you have filled
 in your login name under User Name, try changing it to your customer
 number.

No, it does not. If you use your customer number instead of one of
your login names (= e-mail addresses) you check all your accounts
(under this number) at once.

If I use "dierkhaasis" I only check this specific address, not my
other ones.

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Re[7]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Jan,

JR   Nope. Unfortunately I can't say this.  Any further thoughts would be
JR   welcomed. TIA

Ok, next try ;-)

The gmx "user name" is your complete email address,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my case, not only "Wolfgang.Kynast".

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Re[8]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

 The gmx "user name" is your complete email address,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my case, not only "Wolfgang.Kynast".
Or, alternatively, your customer number (1234567890...). Maybe
replacing "@" with "%" helps.

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Re[8]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-23 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Wolfgang,

On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 20:32:22 [GMT +0100], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

Wolfgang [...] The gmx "user name" is your complete email address [...]

Yes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello TBUDListers.

   To any of you who use GMX mail servers, I am having some difficulty
   using this server w TB!. I rcv eMail ok but can't send.

   Current settings are:

POP.GMX.co.uk
MAIL.GMX.co.uk

Authentication:
Use RFC 2554 protocol
Use settings of Mail Retrieval
Use POP before SMTP authentication

  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 15:10:49 -0500 you wrote:

JR To any of you who use GMX mail servers, I am having some
JR difficulty using this server w TB!. I rcv eMail ok but can't
JR send.

No problems here. Via the web interface change your 'Options' -
'Security' to 'SMTP with login'.

JR POP.GMX.co.uk and MAIL.GMX.co.uk

I didn't know those existed, but they are resolved to the same
IP as pop.gmx.net and mail.gmx.net, should be no problem then.

JR Authentication:
JR Use RFC 2554 protocol
JR Use settings of Mail Retrieval
JR Use POP before SMTP authentication

As you activated support for RFC 2554 on the SMTP server a bit
earlier this message, you can now deactivate 'Use POP before
SMTP authentication' in the account properties. I hope this
solves your problem.

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Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Lars, Thanks for your suggestions.

On Monday, January 22, 2001 21:37:02 [GMT +0100], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers':

Lars No problems here. Via the web interface change your 'Options' -
Lars 'Security' to 'SMTP with login'.

  Not quite sure what you mean here.

JR Authentication:
JR Use RFC 2554 protocol
JR Use settings of Mail Retrieval
JR Use POP before SMTP authentication

Lars As you activated support for RFC 2554 on the SMTP server a bit
Lars earlier this message, you can now deactivate 'Use POP before
Lars SMTP authentication' in the account properties. I hope this
Lars solves your problem.

  My current settings look like this now:

SMTP Server = mail.gmx.co.uk
Perform SMTP authentication (RFC 2554) *not* selected
Use POP before SMTP authentication *is* selected

User info entered
Password info entered
Combined delivery (send+receive) is selected

  Still I cannot use the GMX SMTP server.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 15:55:25 -0500 you wrote:

Lars Change 'Options' - 'Security' to 'SMTP with login'.

JR   Not quite sure what you mean here.

GMX supports three methods of SMTP authentication. The newest
and most secure one is 'SMTP with login' (commonly known as RFC
2554). If you created your account before a certain date (I
don't remember it exactly) the security option is set to 'POP
before SMTP' as default. This is how the SMTP server expects the
client to authenticate. Note: these are the settings of GMX,
they have nothing to do with your account properties in TB! You
can change them if you log in on their web site. I would
recommend activating RFC 2554 (or at least checking if it is
already activated).

JR My current settings look like this now:

JR SMTP Server = mail.gmx.co.uk

OK, as I wrote before.

JR Perform SMTP authentication (RFC 2554) *not* selected
JR Use POP before SMTP authentication *is* selected

These two depend on what you activated in GMX' options. As
stated above, I recommend activating RFC 2554 in your GMX
account and then activate this setting in your account
properties in TB! and *deactivate* 'Use POP before SMTP
authentication'. Your settings in TB! have to be the same as
GMX' server settings. The SMTP server will refuse a connection
if you don't authenticate yourself the way it expects you to.

[rest snipped, should be no problem]

I hope this will fix your problems.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Thomas

Hallo Jan,

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:10:49 -0500 GMT (23/01/2001, 04:10 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

To any of you who use GMX mail servers, I am having some difficulty
using this server w TB!. I rcv eMail ok but can't send.

Just thought of something: IIRC the SMTP server needs your customer
number, not your login name, to authenticate you. If you have filled
in your login name under User Name, try changing it to your customer
number.

I'm not using their SMTP server, so I cannot check right now.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 20:57:49 -0500 you wrote:

JR TB! Settings:
JR Transport Settings:
JR   SMTP Server = mail.gmx.co.uk
JR   Authentication: Perform SMTP authentication [selected]
JR   Use settings of Mail Retrieval [selected]
JR   User  password re-entered  confirmed correct

JR   Result: I can rcv mail but I can't send mail.

This is getting strange now. As you can rcv mail, your user name
and password settings must be correct, so no need to change
this. BTW, the SMTP server accepts both your customer number and
your complete eMail address as user name, I just checked this.

What error does TB! report when trying to send mail?

Feel free to contact me off-list, as this is becoming quite a
specific discussion now.

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