Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Sunday, April 15, 2001 at 8:55:54 PM you wrote: AL Then: FASTIO_WRITE, file is messages.tbi, Result is FAILURE - what the AL heck is that? What does Fastio_x mean? Pass. I don't know it, but think it is a kind of input-output facility (Fast in out). Maybe that can help. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. (Samuel Butler) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtqxMPTo1oA8g8dLEQJ1AACeJZJDvw48G09tnGBwaVdBFxAwcXgAoNbr fC7lUis89F0Y1ypJiJR1LbCu =TvVF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 at 16:55:12 -0400 Tim Musson wrote: ML even when the number of messages to download is large, I don't ML always see temp files created. One question, what dir are you monitoring? You say the "temp" dir, but which "temp" dir? I guess you didn't follow the other thread that prompted me to do the experiment. As I have explained to Marck, I do know where the temp dir is. I set it up manually (I'm not using the system default). It's neither C:\temp nor one under the [documents and settings], but rather one I designated. And yes, I'm very sure. I know there're 4 temp dir settings, and I've hand-set all of them. The fact that I do sometimes see TB temp files created in the temp dir, as quoted above, should be enough proof that I was watching the right dir. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 09:23:24 -0700 Ming-Li wrote: I'll get a real-time monitoring tool to try again. Ok, I installed a real-time file activity monitor (freeware) from System Internals, and indeed for every received message there's a temp file created in the temp dir. They're all closed and killed within a few seconds (no wonder the once-per-min. snapshots missed most of them). The question remains, why are there so many temp files that are left in the temp dir and not deleted for so many of you. As Thomas said, without source codes, we can only speculate. And I'm frankly out of ideas. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Hello, Ok, I installed a real-time file activity monitor (freeware) from System Internals, I just did that myself as well. Now I'm rather irritated... Scanning only TB! I get the following results/errors: Request: FASTIO_READ, file is messages.tbi, Result is SUCCESS. Ok, sound good. Then: FASTIO_WRITE, file is messages.tbi, Result is FAILURE - what the heck is that? What does Fastio_x mean? Then: IRP_MJ_CREATE, file is TheBat!\thebat.ipc, Result is FILE NOT FOUND. This is a constant one. What is thebat.ipc? Process is always thebat.exe:1100. Can anyone tell me anything about what's going on here? I run TB! 1.52beta/4 on Win2k SP1. Btw, I have these bat*.tmp files as well, even without that TB! crashes. Greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alexander, On 15 April 2001 at 20:45:40 +0200 (which was 19:45 where I live) Alexander Levenetz wrote to Ming-Li and made these points: AL Then: FASTIO_WRITE, file is messages.tbi, Result is FAILURE - what the AL heck is that? What does Fastio_x mean? Pass. AL Then: IRP_MJ_CREATE, file is TheBat!\thebat.ipc, Result is FILE NOT AL FOUND. This is a constant one. What is thebat.ipc? AL Process is always thebat.exe:1100. This is an easy one. thebat.ipc is the TB inter-process communication file. TB scans for this file and executes any commands it finds in there. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtnuuznkJKuSnc2gEQKB8gCgvaT9J1qNwqyFpGQL98W4wxrg3UQAnRoi b2joW+PBvlmHlrUNnnQDUuKR =iHxt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Hey Ming-Li, Friday, April 13, 2001, 12:23:24 PM, you wrote: ML I'm not sure exactly how this works. I watched closely at the temp ML dir when downloading mail, but even when the number of messages to ML download is large, I don't always see temp files created. It's ML possible they're deleted too soon for my explorer to refresh its ML display. I'll get a real-time monitoring tool to try again. One question, what dir are you monitoring? You say the "temp" dir, but which "temp" dir? C:\temp ? w2k does not use this by default. It uses something like C:\Documents and Settings\LoginID\Local Settings\Temp I know I have both (because I needed c:\temp for other things) and my TB temp files show up in the C:\Doc...\Temp one. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.51 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) My software never has bugs; it just develops random features. NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Thursday, April 12, 2001, 3:56:24 PM, you wrote: When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file (*.tbi). When you purge, it is really deleted. But you also need to compress from time and time: remove old entries (messages) from the messge database (*.tbb). I have been compressing, which seems to purge. Today I tried purging, which seems to compress. They appear to be redundant processes. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 10:29:14 +0800 Thomas wrote: This is indeed methodical, Not really, because I didn't set out to try all functions of TB. I just did what I usually do. I also said it's not scientific because I knew it's not real-time monitoring, but infrequent snapshots (1 min. interval may be frequent enough for human activities, but not for computers). and must have created a rather large log file which you had to read through after those over two hours. ;-) Not really, either. TB's temp file follows a certain naming rule (BAT*.tmp), which is easy to search in an editor. I stopped the experiment around 7:30 this morning, about 24 hours after it began. The log is about 2.4 MB, 66 thousand lines, and it logged a total of 7 BAT temp files. All of them have been deleted automatically by TB, even though I haven't closed it since yesterday. When you download new mail, I understand these messages will be downloaded to the temp dir first, then "imported" (some, including myself, have already seen the cycle "importing messages" from TB, and the occasional hang at that point), and if the import action is successful, the files will be deleted from temp. I'm not sure exactly how this works. I watched closely at the temp dir when downloading mail, but even when the number of messages to download is large, I don't always see temp files created. It's possible they're deleted too soon for my explorer to refresh its display. I'll get a real-time monitoring tool to try again. This is what you have missed. If there is any doubt about whether the "import" was successful, TB will not delete the files in the temp dir, giving you a chance to find out whether the error might have to do with them. This seems plausible. Yet then it begs two questions: 1. why are there many leftovers (undeleted temp files) for so many users? My experience (very rarely has TB left anything in my temp dir) should be the norm, but it clearly is not given the testimonies by others on the other thread. It's hard to imagine they're experiencing so many failed imports, since it's not related to the outside connection (the message has been downloaded and saved as a temp file on your HD, but somehow TB fails to import it into TB). 2. why are there so many 0-byte temp files (for many others, not me)? As I speculated earlier, it could be due to incomplete deletion, but why? Well, since it doesn't affect me, I'm not sure why I'm pursuing this. Kind of foolish, ain't I? :-) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 11:23:03 -0500 Dwight A Corrin wrote:
When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really
removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file (*.tbi).
When you purge, it is really deleted. But you also need to
compress from time and time: remove old entries (messages) from
the messge database (*.tbb).
I have been compressing, which seems to purge. Today I tried purging,
which seems to compress. They appear to be redundant processes.
No, as Karin put it, purge and compress are two different things.
It's just in TB you can't do Purging without compression. The "Purge
all folders" command under the Folder menu does do compression,
which should be renamed to "Purge AND COMPRESS all folders". The one
for a single folder ("Purge and Compress") is clear.
The Compress and Compress All Folders commands, OTOH, don't purge.
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Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 6:23:24 PM you wrote: Well, since it doesn't affect me, I'm not sure why I'm pursuing this. Kind of foolish, ain't I? :-) First off all, I want to thank you for it. And then, I can tell you why: 1. You're a nice person (Good to see that some are still around.). 2. The problem cannot be investigated by someone who encounters it. You are "our" control group. Thanks again! :-) - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Es ist viel einfacher, Kritik zu ben, als etwas anzuerkennen. (Benjamin Disraeli) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtckM/To1oA8g8dLEQK0SwCgiv057bdniOLRKZTN/Lysp8ZpGZIAn1hz 1Fh9j6JPBqlDTHQQ+qFRhNI1 =ISrr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Thursday, April 12, 2001 at 6:50:11 PM you wrote: And I don't use TB's ticker, if that makes a difference. As one who has - newly - encountered the mysterious temp problem, I just want to fill in that I am also *not* using the MT due to my problem that it gets stuck and I cannot get access through it to the new mails because it gets stuck displaying the message how many mails have arrived. So, it is not the MT creating and not deleting the temps. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wer sich nicht verbiegen lt, zerbricht! (Aleks Papst) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtcZU/To1oA8g8dLEQLuhgCdEawwniqaLi2nzJO5lwGKXOerD+cAoO5b KzIbo7vgKRA1eY0iRPALk7gL =lwgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 4:29:14 AM you wrote: This is what you have missed. If there is any doubt about whether the "import" was successful, TB will not delete the files in the temp dir, giving you a chance to find out whether the error might have to do with them. But why then do I have those undeleted temps consistently every time, when I have *never* encountered the prob with hanging or even crashing (lucky me) during the import process? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Peace: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtcZtvTo1oA8g8dLEQLDEQCggfcvFd9viI3MmHI1++jd5vBb4O4AoOwZ WnXFXy3/oBzJfgkHr3YDyhWv =hr3W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Hallo Ming-Li, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:23:24 -0700 GMT (14/04/2001, 00:23 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: and must have created a rather large log file ML The log is about 2.4 MB, 66 thousand lines, If that is not large... ML I'm not sure exactly how this works. [...] ML 1. why ML 2. why So many questions, so few answers (without source code). Life's tough. ;-) Thanks for your efforts, but I tink at this point we can only guess. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Friday, April 13, 2001, 12:10:40 PM, you wrote:
I have been compressing, which seems to purge. Today I tried purging,
which seems to compress. They appear to be redundant processes.
No, as Karin put it, purge and compress are two different things.
It's just in TB you can't do Purging without compression. The "Purge
all folders" command under the Folder menu does do compression,
which should be renamed to "Purge AND COMPRESS all folders". The one
for a single folder ("Purge and Compress") is clear.
The Compress and Compress All Folders commands, OTOH, don't purge.
It seems that when I compress all folders, it purges. To test, I
compressed all folders, then deleted a message. I compressed, and
recovered an amount of space similar to the size of the message. When
I purged all folders, there was nothing to purge.
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Re: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 16:40:43 -0500 Dwight A Corrin wrote: It seems that when I compress all folders, it purges. I went back to look at the explanation Karin gave you, and found what caused the confusion. I'm also at fault, of course, since I endorsed what she said without thinking. I guess she was lacking caffeine, and I simply had a bad day though it was only morning. Now, Karin's explanation is still a good place to start: KS When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really KS removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file KS (*.tbi). This is almost right, except the index entry isn't really "taken out". It's marked as deleted. That's why you can "browse deleted messages", which would be much harder to do if the index entries no longer exist. KS When you purge, it is really deleted. Here, "purge" should be "compress". (In dBase/Clipper terminology, it's "pack".) What does "purging" do, then? It means deleting old messages according to a set criteria. If you have experience with higher-end newsreader, you should have no trouble with this concept. In TB, the criteria is set on a folder-by-folder basis (try Folder | Properties). If you set a folder to keep no a maximum of 100 messages, e.g., then when you purge it TB would delete all messages but the newest 100. When purging, TB delete them in its usual way--marking them as deleted in the index file (.tbi), but not removing them physically from the message base file (.tbb). Yet, as I said earlier, purging in TB is always followed by compression (either on all folder or a single one). The reverse isn't true. Hope that is clear enough. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Hello All, From the discussion on the other thread, I seem to be the only one who is not seeing TB temp files in my temp dir regularly, which makes me wonder what I'm missing. :-) So I decided to do a little experiment. Nothing scientific or methodical, just a little observation. I wrote a .bat file that use DOS dir command to list all files under my temp dir and all its sub-dir and append the result to a log file. I then schedule it (with PowerPro, for those who knows it) to run the batch file every minute. It started on 7:15 am (my time) and I checked my log at 9:36. During this 2-hour+ period, I did my usual stuff with TB: reading/writing/sending email, TB would check mail automatically, and I did several manual checking. I even did a little house cleaning job that I usually do in the weekend: killing dupes in all folders, purging and compressing all folders. I also surfed the web a little (with IE), did my work (on Word) a little, and read news with Agent and XNews a little. BTW, when the experiment began, my Bat had been running for more about 24 hours since I last shut it down for backup yesterday morning. In order to see if TB would clean up its temp files and if it creates them upon startup, I shut down TB around 9:10 and restart it a few minutes later (in the meantime I do my daily backup, which usually doesn't require shutting down TB). During this period, only ONE temp file from TB is recorded. It's a Word document attachment I received and I let TB launch it (via Word, of course). What's interesting is TB didn't create the temp file right under the temp dir. It created a sub-dir named "bat", and then created the temp file (named "32BCC548.doc") under it. Other than that, there has been no temp files from TB--at least none was caught by my per-min. recording! System configuration: Pentium Pro 200 MHz, 96MB RAM, Win2k Pro SP1 Programs always in the background: a security suite from my university, PowerPro (a utility), and Powermarks (BTW, thanks for those who recommended it). No antivirus suite, no ZoneAlarm or the likes. And I don't use TB's ticker, if that makes a difference. I'll keep the experiment going for the day, and I'll report back tomorrow. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 at 09:50:11 -0700 Ming-Li wrote: It created a sub-dir named "bat", and then created the temp file (named "32BCC548.doc") under it. Sorry, I forgot to mentioned: TB did clean up the temp file and the sub-dir it created when I shut it down. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Thursday, April 12, 2001, 11:50:11 AM, you wrote: I even did a little house cleaning job that I usually do in the weekend: killing dupes in all folders, purging and compressing all folders. Showing my ignorance, I would like to ask: What is purging? It sounds destructive and I have been loathe to test to find out. I looked at the FAQ and in the help file to no avail. Thanks in advance. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On 12-04-2001 at 21:55, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: Thursday, April 12, 2001, 11:50:11 AM, Ming-Li wrote: I even did a little house cleaning job that I usually do in the weekend: killing dupes in all folders, purging and compressing all folders. Showing my ignorance, I would like to ask: What is purging? It sounds destructive and I have been loathe to test to find out. When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file (*.tbi). When you purge, it is really deleted. But you also need to compress from time and time: remove old entries (messages) from the messge database (*.tbb). It will reduce the size of your folders and increse operations somewhat. Especially the outbox, inbox and thrash folders will open much quicker after a purge compress. - K - -- "You've got a gift." "It's not a gift. It's just a brain." - The Cube, 1997 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Hi Ming-Li, On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:50:11 -0700GMT (13/04/2001, 00:50 +0800GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ML So I decided to do a little experiment. Nothing scientific or ML methodical, just a little observation. I wrote a .bat file that use ML DOS dir command to list all files under my temp dir and all its ML sub-dir and append the result to a log file. I then schedule it ML (with PowerPro, for those who knows it) to run the batch file every ML minute. This is indeed methodical, and must have created a rather large log file which you had to read through after those over two hours. ;-) ML During this period, only ONE temp file from TB is recorded. When you download new mail, I understand these messages will be downloaded to the temp dir first, then "imported" (some, including myself, have already seen the cycle "importing messages" from TB, and the occasional hang at that point), and if the import action is successful, the files will be deleted from temp. This is what you have missed. If there is any doubt about whether the "import" was successful, TB will not delete the files in the temp dir, giving you a chance to find out whether the error might have to do with them. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
