From TheBat! to Thunderbird
Hello, Just wondering if any fellow TBUDL members have switched and/or using Thunderbird in parallel. Any best practises to share? Thinking of exporting each folder as *.mbox, re-importing them all in Thunderbird and be done with the daily bugs plaguing the e-mail client. -- With regards, A Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migrating from Thunderbird to The Bat
Hi all, I have just installed The Bat and I feel that I have come home at last. This software was made for me. The only thing that bugs me at the moment is that I would like to move or copy my email history from Thunderbird to The Bat -- but I can't figure out how. The import wizard doesn't list Thunderbird, and I can't find any function in Thunderbird to export the email archives to a standard format. Does anybody know how I move my stuff to The Bat? Many thanks in advance! Görel Uppsala, Sweden -- Vänliga hälsningar · Venlig hilsen · Kind regards · Freundliche Grüße Görel Bylund DANG HB Vidulvs väg 4 SE-754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Tel. +46 18 290655 Mob. +46 705 290685 Fax +46 70 20 17172 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating from Thunderbird to The Bat
Hallo Görel, On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:48:24 +0200GMT (19-5-2008, 13:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GBD I have just installed The Bat and I feel that I have come home at last. GBD This software was made for me. The only thing that bugs me at the moment GBD is that I would like to move or copy my email history from Thunderbird GBD to The Bat -- but I can't figure out how. The import wizard doesn't list GBD Thunderbird, and I can't find any function in Thunderbird to export the GBD email archives to a standard format. Thunderbird uses Unix Mailbox format, you can import those with TB. Only problem is you've got to do that on a per folder base. -- Groetjes, Roelof Cannibals don't eat lawyers. Professional courtesy. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpYOi1kYu10b.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird finds more spam messages
Hello Henk, Monday, June 5, 2006, 7:45:24 AM, you wrote: HMdB As some sort of back up I have Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (20060516) with HMdB Enigmail 0.94 at hand. Can that be used offline? Not being able to stop TB from getting mail still annoys me since the process stops the computer from running any other task. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird finds more spam messages
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:40:31 +0200GMT (5-6-2006, 11:40 +0200, where I live), Mark Partous wrote: Monday, June 5, 2006, 7:45:24 AM, you wrote: HMdB As some sort of back up I have Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (20060516) with HMdB Enigmail 0.94 at hand. Can that be used offline? Not being able to stop TB from getting mail still annoys me since the process stops the computer from running any other task. Hi Mark, Yep, you can control that completely. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.80.06 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpFMObKEKGuo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thunderbird finds more spam messages
As some sort of back up I have Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (20060516) with Enigmail 0.94 at hand. Next to the fact that I like the way Thunderbird handles PGP/GPG, I notice that Thunderbird finds more spam than the Bat! with Bayes Filter Plugin v2.04 I do not think that it is a matter of training: Scanned Ham mails 98221 Scanned Spam Mails 1341 Just noticed. -- grüetzi, Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System? version 3.80.06 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpqdN2o8sp4z.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
Hi Roland, On Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 1:52:12 PM, you wrote: RB is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? I made the conversion a few months ago from Thunderbird. Basically the key thing to understand about importing the mail is that Thunderbird uses the UNIX mailbox format for all of its mail folders which means that TB can import these without any fiddling. So to load a particular mailbox: 1. First find your Thunderbird mail folder, mine is stored in: C:\Documents and Settings\P_Meathrel\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\tbq54l3b.default\Mail. Please bear in mind that this is on a Windows XP machine. Make a note of this location because we will need it later. 2. In TB create a folder which will hold the newly imported folder from Thunderbird. 3. Highlight the new folder from the folder tree. 4. From the Tools menu select Import Messages - From UNIX Mailbox format and then browse to the location we identified in step 1. Now select the filename which is the same as the name of the folder you wish to import. Note: there are two files for each folder in Thunderbird - one has a .msf extension and the other has no extension. The one we need is the one without an extension. After we've selected the folder we should get a message saying something like 10 Messages converted. The folder we created earlier should now have the same messages as the corresponding folder in Thunderbird. I used this method successfully and never had a problem in converting my folders. Let me know if you need further help or if my instructions don't make sense. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Import from Thunderbird
Hi, is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
Hello Roland, Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 2:52:12 PM, you wrote: RB is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? Not that I know of. You could try this (Address Magic): http://www.connectedsw.com/Overview/57262 -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
Hello Roland, Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 5:52:12 AM, you wrote: RB is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat. -- Darrin Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
Hello Darrin, Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat. the import from Thunderbird as CSV or LDIF file does not work correctly. Export the address-book from Thunderbird as TXT file with comma separation. With Mbox2eml the messages can be converted into the EML format, and afterwards imported into TB!. You can find it here: http://thebat.zetema.de/howto.html Thunderbird » EML format [37 KB] http://thebat.zetema.de/tools/Mbox2eml_DEU.zip -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.zetema.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.zetema.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
Hi Darrin, on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 16:04 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: RB is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat. I don't find in Thunderbird any possibilities to export something! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
Hello Roland, I don't find in Thunderbird any possibilities to export something! Thunderbird » Extras » Address Book » Extras » Export... (tab-delimited *.txt) -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.zetema.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.zetema.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 27 Dec 2005, @ @ at 14:52:12 +0100, when Roland Burger wrote: is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? Each mailer is able to export both, in at least one universal format: UNIX mailbox (plain text with headers) as to mail, and as a text file (*.txt), as to address books. Although, there are plenty other formats. It is typically done by a Save As and/or Export... commands in the source mailer, and by the Import... command in the target mailer, where these features specific to the given program are listed. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 482 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ7Fdr7SpHvHEUtv8AQMfsgf7B4E31VrNpkiCOyNB+DExrrZ4SrnJmcZ1 SgVCwsWe6tjOsEFxXOntTu57QEAVWEL440JWECcvnqP2FeOh2cxto0dUybMyy8at 0qr6vbMQ7adxDZ/cpYNGpT8wHBDKJpCrh1gGJ13XbYUpKkuaYdAEMdvAIickIL+x ouj5lU493MsgPZ8WT6T7ZZp59c4oMWqKYPJXYLXf507gcmc/7TRw/ZRUgzQTS4HB wabF4jJuoisr7V2lRBf7d3GRiapWwdFhaFidfJ8H6A5UmvDEHcNHgr5gYtRPaQ65 oWNWBpeLGCeXPOIT3PJ7Gye8oIEoi4Jb9mj/vH43c7/GBr/5HH4XMw== =+X8v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Import from Thunderbird
Hello Roland, Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 10:37:40 AM, you wrote: Roland Hi Darrin, Roland on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 16:04 you wrote in message Roland mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Roland among others: RB is it possible to import addressbooks and mails from Thunderbird and if yes, how? Maybe im wrong but I thought Tbird exported as CSV. If so you could probably just export it as that format then import it to tbat. Roland I don't find in Thunderbird any possibilities to export something! It is possible to export from TB and import to Bat. I used Thunderbird and some months ago converted all folders and addressbook to the Bat. I am not sure exactly how I did, but remember that each folder I had to export and convert to Unix format, than imported to Bat. I think the Address Book I exported as comma delimited file transferred to an Excel spreadsheet and imported into Bat. There could be simpler ways, I tried a number of other possibilities but found this as the simplest. I ended up with some duplicates, but Bat can handle this. I am not sure anymore of all the details - should have made notes. Hope that helps. -- Best regards, Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT 3.64.01 Christmas Edition, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Thunderbird
Hello The, Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:59:59 AM, you wrote: Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:14:25 AM, you wrote: http://www.0spam.com What's in it for them? Or am I being cynical? I found this in one of the press lists: 0Spam.com intends to keep the service free and eventually charge a small fee of 10 € ($11 USD) per year only to users who want additional storage space or extra features for their account. For more information regarding 0Spam.com, please visit our website at http://www.0spam.com.; My guess is that they probably also have other revenue streams. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Thunderbird
30 September 2005 - 07:58 Hello Tom, Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:14:25 AM, you wrote: TP http://www.0spam.com What's in it for them? Or am I being cynical? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Bat Lovers, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 7:16:41 AM, you wrote: I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so what features did you miss from The Bat? First I missed the entire concept of templates, no matter what kind it my be. Can't really see how to do without this, it is just to powerful a feature to do without. Secondly filtering. I currently filter a lot of mail the TB!. All of my business contacts are filtered for incoming and outgoing mail so all my mail is in one place. I found no way to filter outgoing mail in Thunderbird. Thirdly HTML rendering. I only switched to Thunderbird briefly because of TB! serious lack of development in this area. I had several people that send mail to me in this format and I needed to have a way to deal with it. We can whine and complain about HTML mail being the spawn of Satan all we want but the bottom line is that it is here to stay. The issue of not seeing images is a major concern. It is true we can open in a browser but why should we have to. This has been a major topic over the last few years and doesn't look like it will ever be implemented. My suggestion is allow the user to have a global setting to accept images of not. Maybe even accept on the level of the address book. After all, malicious code is not coming from out friends we trust. Also right now there is a reply problem to HTML (not quoted) that is annoying. -- Chuck Smith Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 [uptime :: 1d 11h 34m] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Duncan, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 12:16:41 PM, you wrote: I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so what features did you miss from The Bat? Virtually all of them :-) I found Thunderbird lacking in many respects... must be the way I work... -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Martin, On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, you wrote: On the subject of message indexing/searching, I'm still aching from the demise of Bloomba, which really seemed to be going somewhere new. MW See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomba. Apparently, it's been MW re-released as WordPerfect MAIL. Oh, thanks for that. I'll have a poke around. -- Nick Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Dwight, On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:29:48 -0500 GMT (29/09/2005, 08:29 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: Also, an option to load the images for safe senders or even by manual request would be nice. DAC double clicking the html icon is a manual request which is instantly DAC answered, isn't it? Yes, but it doesn't work when some images are sent with the message and others need to be loaded. In the browser, the images sent with the message are not shown. Apart from that, I receive trusted newletters with images that need to be loaded from the net, and I don't want to have to open the browser every time for those. Talking about TheBat, not ThunderBird. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication systems of any invading alien civilization. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Nick Dutton wrote: I'd have to say that for me it's the ability to manage my POP folders *after* the initial retrieval, and the reason I use K9 instead of BayesIt. Once I've checked an account with TB! (as opposed to TB) any subsequent check from dial-up or mobile devices is free of list mail, large attachments and SPAM. http://www.0spam.com Then you don't even need to check your email and your spam is gone. It's amazing, it's beautiful. I still use POPfile because I use it to sort into a bunch of buckets locally, but 0spam gets rid of everything I don't actually care about. 0spam works by whitelisting, but has some interesting tech in it that allows it to guess (correctly) when something might actually not be spam. It always errs on the side of it's spam though, but a new feature on their website, where you can go to see what it's grabbing and restore stuff you don't want taken, is that it highlights stuff that looks almost good enough to leave in your box, but isn't quite. -tom! -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thunderbird
Hi, I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so what features did you miss from The Bat? -- Duncan Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 7:16:41 AM, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D Hi, D I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers D been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so D what features did you miss from The Bat? I use Thunderbird at work where I have modest email needs. I use The Bat at home because I have become dependent upon: 1) Per folder templates (and quick templates) 2) Macros If Thunderbird had these features, I'd drop The Bat immediately because of it's poor html implementation and lack of image links. Other features in which The Bat is superior but which I don't absolutely need: message flags, memos, and parking. Threaded views. Don't have Thunderbird in front of me now, but I think that message searching is more flexible in The Bat. jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Duncan, D what features did you miss from The Bat? I'd have to say that for me it's the ability to manage my POP folders *after* the initial retrieval, and the reason I use K9 instead of BayesIt. Once I've checked an account with TB! (as opposed to TB) any subsequent check from dial-up or mobile devices is free of list mail, large attachments and SPAM. Otherwise, I could probably live with the other (probably temporary) shortfalls for the sake of a true multi-platform solution. On the subject of message indexing/searching, I'm still aching from the demise of Bloomba, which really seemed to be going somewhere new. -- Nick Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
On 9/28/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so what features did you miss from The Bat? I missed: - address book templates - virtual folders but also: - less-than-perfect HTML rendering and - still-not-quite-satisfactory IMAP support In other words, the last two features (plus better interoperability with other software) would make me want to switch to Thunderbird. As long as there are no address book templates (or another feature to get the same functionality) I won't switch. HTH, Roman -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Duncan wrote: I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so what features did you miss from The Bat? What I miss most is the templates. Be it New or Reply or Address Book, I can't think of an easier way to customize than with The Bat!'s Quick Templates, which even can include Regular Expressions. The selection of different SMTP servers for different accounts is quite cumbersome in T'bird, but easy with The Bat!. Filter options are more plentiful in The Bat!. I might find more items if I worked with T'bird more than I do. T'bird has its pros, particularly the handling of GnuPG, but it isn't a viable replacement of The Bat! for me. A meager substitute at best... ;-) -- Thunderbird version 1.0.6 (20050716) on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 9:23:24 AM, Roman Katzer wrote: but also: - less-than-perfect HTML rendering and I really don't know what this is. I get lots of HTML mail from various lists, and newsletters and -unfortunately- from other users, and don't really see this at all. I have lots less perfect html rendering when I am using firefox or opera than with TB! - still-not-quite-satisfactory IMAP support What little annoyances I see with IMAP are nowhere near serious enough to give up the good points of TB! I really don't care for Thunderbird at all. I will occasionally go there if I want to manage folders or straighten something out that I have messed up, but wouldn't want to be there all the time at all. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hi Roman, on Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:23:24 -0400GMT (28.09.2005, 16:23 +0200GMT here), you wrote: RK I missed: RK - ... RK - virtual folders But these ARE possible, even in T'bird. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Peter, On 9/28/05, Peter Meyns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RK I missed: RK - virtual folders But these ARE possible, even in T'bird. apparently I didn't give it enough of a try, then. I overlooked that. I do also miss quick templates which I forgot to mention in my original post. Roman -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Dwight A Corrin @ 9/28/2005 12:20:52 PM Thunderbird mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have lots less perfect html rendering when I am using firefox or opera than with TB! HTML rendering could be much improved if people would write correct markup, but, alas, few do. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Act naturally pgpi0d8RSVqf1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Dwight, On 9/28/05, Dwight A Corrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't know what this is. I get lots of HTML mail from various lists, and newsletters and -unfortunately- from other users, and don't really see this at all. I have lots less perfect html rendering when I am using firefox or opera than with TB! YMMV. What I've seen in newsletters and commercial email (e.g. from my bank, from Amazon etc) has been ugly at times and very decent when loaded in Opera. Also, an option to load the images for safe senders or even by manual request would be nice. Regards, Roman -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:16:41 +0100GMT (28-9-2005, 13:16 +0200, where I live), Duncan wrote: I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so what features did you miss from The Bat? I think it is a very nice alternative for people who do not use all the extra's within the Bat! Thunderbird with Enigmail is/are working like a charm with GPG! Can't say that the Bat! is working like that with GPG :-( -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Roman Katzer wrote: Also, an option to load the images for safe senders or even by manual request would be nice. That would certainly be nice. I very much like the way Thunderbird deals with this. If its junk, then the images are loaded. -- Duncan Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Nick, On 28 September 2005, 17:05 you wrote: On the subject of message indexing/searching, I'm still aching from the demise of Bloomba, which really seemed to be going somewhere new. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomba. Apparently, it's been re-released as WordPerfect MAIL. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 If a man begins with certainties, he shall end in doubt; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties. FRANCIS BACON, 1561-1626 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Roman Katzer wrote: I missed: - address book templates Yeah they're missing! Email signatures could be better. (You have to use a separate file) - virtual folders Is in Thunderbird but also: - less-than-perfect HTML rendering and Had absolutely no problems with this so far. With TheBat any html mail that has images has to be opened in a separate browser. - still-not-quite-satisfactory IMAP support I don't use IMAP regularly, only to connect to the Exchange server at work. With the bat I've had a lot of problems simply getting it to work reliably. Its early days but with Thunderbird so far so good... -- Duncan Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Thunderbird
Hello Duncan, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 3:23:42 PM, you wrote: DS Roman Katzer wrote: Also, an option to load the images for safe senders or even by manual request would be nice. DS That would certainly be nice. I very much like the way Thunderbird deals DS with this. If its junk, then the images are loaded. this has been asked for 2 years now https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1780 but forget about it, they wont add this feature because there is too many anti html email withing the thebat guys. -- The Final Cut A Requiem For The Post War Dream pgpZTBq9SJxgr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 12:40:56 PM, Roman Katzer wrote: Also, an option to load the images for safe senders or even by manual request would be nice. double clicking the html icon is a manual request which is instantly answered, isn't it? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Alexander, On Monday, June 20, 2005, 11:20:18 PM, you wrote: Thunderbird appears to only import from Netscape Communicator, Eudora, Outllok or Outlook Express A If you can't go the direct route, you can export to .MSG/.EML which can be A imported in OE, and then import from OE to Thunderbird. This will work, but you have to export all messages in one folder. How can you export all messages in a way that you will keep your folder structure and all the messages are in those folders? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v3.5.25, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Ambition a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpNWXL0uo3bV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Edgar van Dijk everyone else, on 22-Jun-2005 at 19:33 you (Edgar van Dijk) wrote: A If you can't go the direct route, you can export to .MSG/.EML which can A be imported in OE, and then import from OE to Thunderbird. This will work, but you have to export all messages in one folder. Yes, its a tedious task. One folder after the other. How can you export all messages in a way that you will keep your folder structure and all the messages are in those folders? I don't know (and I don't care :-) ... if you really want to import the complete TB folder structure into, err, TBird, ask Mozilla Foundation to write an import wizard. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory (Paul Fix). Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Roelof, Monday, June 20, 2005, 10:54:44 PM, you wrote: I'd guess unix mailbox would work I would have thought so too but no - it only gives you certain options to import from and TB isn't one of them, neither is Unix! -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Manuel, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 6:15:57 AM, you wrote: Upon restarting Thunderbird, you'll see the mailbox and can move your mails where you want to have them Simple if you know that trick :-) Thanks! -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Edvinas, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 6:51:14 AM, you wrote: That's it Too easy - maybe I'm just thick ;-) -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Tony Brookes everyone else, on 21-Jun-2005 at 22:19 you (Tony Brookes) wrote: That's it Too easy - maybe I'm just thick ;-) I thought the same... (but as an apology, I never used Thunderbird, and I don't intend to ever do that, either). *g* -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them that Benjamin Franklin said it first. Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello all, I was messing about with Thunderbird and tried importing a few messages so I could play around but cannot get them in a format that Thunderbird can import - anyone any ideas? Thunderbird appears to only import from Netscape Communicator, Eudora, Outllok or Outlook Express Thanks, -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Tony Brookes everyone else, on 20-Jun-2005 at 23:01 you (Tony Brookes) wrote: Thunderbird appears to only import from Netscape Communicator, Eudora, Outllok or Outlook Express If you can't go the direct route, you can export to .MSG/.EML which can be imported in OE, and then import from OE to Thunderbird. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: First Machine (9:10) by Deviant Electronics from the album '21-3 - All Boundaries Are Illusion' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Alexander, Monday, June 20, 2005, 10:20:18 PM, you wrote: If you can't go the direct route, you can export to .MSG/.EML which can be imported in OE, and then import from OE to Thunderbird. Thanks Alex! As never having used OE - didn't know it used EML... I'll try that. Regards, -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.5.28 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello you schmuck, answering yourself again? on 20-Jun-2005 at 23:20 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: If you can't go the direct route, you can export to .MSG/.EML which can be imported in OE, and then import from OE to Thunderbird. Ahem, to be precise, export to .EML (each message will be a separate file), then drag drop the .EML files into the messagelist of OE. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Karmaflage (5:27) by ManMadeMan from the album '21-3 - All Boundaries Are Il..' Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:01:59 +0100GMT (20-6-2005, 23:01 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TB I was messing about with Thunderbird and tried importing a few TB messages so I could play around but cannot get them in a format that TB Thunderbird can import - anyone any ideas? I'd guess unix mailbox would work. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. The Bat! 3.5.30 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp0RFfSs75Tu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Roleof, On Monday, 20 June 2005 at 11:54 PM you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was messing about with Thunderbird and tried importing a few messages so I could play around but cannot get them in a format that Thunderbird can import - anyone any ideas? I'd guess unix mailbox would work. Yes, that's right. Just export a UNIX Mailbox and move this file into your profile folder of Thunderbird just beside all other folders. The profile folder normaly is located in %appdata%. Upon restarting Thunderbird, you'll see the mailbox and can move your mails where you want to have them. :) -- Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting messagebase to Mozilla Thunderbird?
Hello Tony, On Tuesday, June 21, 2005, at 00:01 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: TB I was messing about with Thunderbird and tried importing a few TB messages so I could play around but cannot get them in a format that TB Thunderbird can import - anyone any ideas? TB Thunderbird appears to only import from Netscape Communicator, TB Eudora, Outllok or Outlook Express Thunderbird keeps email in so called UNIX mailbox format. For each folder Thunderbird has that mailbox, folder name in Thunderbird is the same as filename of that mailbox on your HDD Therefore you should export messages from The Bat! to UNIX mailbox and then simply copy created file into Thunderbird mail directory. For example: 1) Create in Thunderbird folder called import_from_the_bat, close Thunderbird. 2) in The Bat! select messages you want to export and then Tools/Export messages to/UNIX mailbox, save mailbox as import_from_the_bat 3) Locate Thunderbird mailbox file import_from_the_bat. It should be in one of Application Data\Thunderbird subdirectories and copy over file created by The Bat! That's it :) -- Edvinas pgpEhHLUwcmlN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exporting mail to Thunderbird
I am trying to relieve the load on The Bat so I can use it on my laptop. I am setting up Thunderbird to handle the petty personal accounts and leaving The Bat to handle the complex filtering etc. Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for TBird to import. Goes for emails as well as addresses. Anyone point me in the right directrion for info? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting mail to Thunderbird
On Friday, 24 September 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for TBird to aacu import. Thunderbird uses Unix mailbox format. What I did was export from TB! as a Unix mailbox directly into the appropriate account folder in the TBird profiles directory (which I had first cloned for safety), giving it the name of the folder I wanted (no extension). When I started TBird, all the mail was there -- no actual import step required. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Cannot find a quick template list Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting mail to Thunderbird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 04-09-23 16:21: I am trying to relieve the load on The Bat so I can use it on my laptop. I am setting up Thunderbird to handle the petty personal accounts and leaving The Bat to handle the complex filtering etc. Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for TBird to import. Goes for emails as well as addresses. Anyone point me in the right directrion for info? No problem. For email you can transfer as mailboxes Go to TOOLS |EXPORT messages | Unix. Save and import to TB. For address book, go to Address book, export LDIF format. You may need same adjustments for Nicknames etc. -- Peter Kerekes Thunderbird v:0.7.3 with Windows 2K -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.269 / Virus Database: 264.9.5 - Release Date: 04-09-22 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Exporting mail to Thunderbird
On Friday, 24 September 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for TBird to aacu import. Thunderbird uses Unix mailbox format. What I did was export from TB! as a Unix mailbox directly into the appropriate account folder in the TBird profiles directory (which I had first cloned for safety), giving it the name of the folder I wanted (no extension). When I started TBird, all the mail was there -- no actual import step required. Just checking: The TBird Mail folder has a directory set up for the account, in this case: mail.pulse8design-1.com In this directory there are a files with no extension and others with the same name with a .msf extension. If I export from TBat and call the exported file plonk.msf and add it as another file in that directory - do you mean it will just have a look at that as well as all the others and they'll be there? Presumably there will be another folder called 'plonk' from which I can drag and drop to the (say) inbox folder. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Exporting mail to Thunderbird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 04-09-23 16:21: No problem. Easy for you to say :-)) For email you can transfer as mailboxes Go to TOOLS |EXPORT messages | Unix. Save and import to TB. HBut import in TBird only allows import of local mail from Communicator, Eudora, Outlook or Outlook Express. There is no option to import anything through browsing to a file. Importing Eudora lets you go to a directory in which it is obviously expecting there top]= be files in a particular format and presumably wiht a particular extension - I do that with what I've exported from TBat and it says there's nothing there (that it recognises). For address book, go to Address book, export LDIF format. You may need same adjustments for Nicknames etc. This on the other hand allowed a choice of formats and allowed me to browse to the LDIF file I'd exported and then imported it, no prob. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Exporting mail to Thunderbird
On Friday, 24 September 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this directory there are a files with no extension and others with the same name with a .msf extension. The mailbase is in the files with no extension. I think the msf files are TBird's indexes. I can't remember if I deleted them or ignored them. If I export from TBat and call the exported file plonk.msf and add it as another file in that directory - do you mean it will just have a look at that as well as all the others and they'll be there? I couldn't remember exactly what I did, so I just tested. I just exported a folder from TB! into the relevant directory, calling the file testing (no extension). Opened TBird and there was a folder called testing with the messages I had exported. As easy as that. Presumably there will be another folder called 'plonk' from which I can drag and drop to the (say) inbox folder. That's what happens here. If you're really daring, you can export directly from TB! to the Inbox file in that directory -- TB! will ask if you want to append or overwrite. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
