Re: MD5 sum for 1.60q *.exe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Golovniov [RG] wrote: RG Yes, it was the full install. Also, I havent' updated The Bat! RG within the past few days, so there was no reason for my firewall RG to act like that. That's why I was wondering whether it might be a RG virus changing its body, so that Kaspersky AV was not able to RG detect it... If your firewall comes up with a prompt about the checksum for the TB! executable offering to change it to the current, say yes only if you just installed a newer version. Otherwise say no. If the firewall isn't the problem then TB! should continue to work and you should look for another file carrying the TB! executables name. Likely a trojan. If TB! stops working, then it's likely that the firewall is the problem. Delete the checksum for TB! in the TPF configuration (I haven't run TPF in a while but I think you can delete checksum entries) and then let TPF ask again where you can say yes. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0YC7YACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KlbgCgjEqYlDAPfLNHSkqnXITlMGow RG4An3jsREJFrhfBt9pDX2y1W3sn/qOe =+iJ5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Addressing/autocomplete wish wrapped to next line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F [TF] wrote: TF For me, this problem is not with autocomplete, but with the TF one-line-only format of all address field, both for composing and TF for viewing mail. Here is a point where I liked Netscape Mail's TF way of display better, giving you a box - a bit like the box that TF opens when you hit the right-most icon in the address field when TF compsing mail. Only that you could easily change an address from TF being in one field (TO) to another (BCC), without having to delete TF and reinsert. I just drag the address and drop it on the tab I wish to add it to. I don't delete it. Have you tried that? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0YDI8ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IQrACcDWIqQY09cQigApKmOIxrjALq tWgAnRLlXgK3Y0hKvkWEIPrBxMuSqZcP =D77r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 at 21:49 GMT -0700 (25/06/2002 11:49 where you think I live) Nick Andriash=[NA] wrote to TBUDL : Vehemently disagree. The world is not moving to unified messaging. The world is moving back to a Unix-like concept of small, tight applications doing very specific tasks -- Not that I am in favour of a TB Newsgroup, but I have to strongly disagree with your statement. The world is moving away from single use appliances and going for the 'unified' concept... but without the bloat... as the wary consumer will not stand for that anymore. IMHO both of you are correct (at least part of it) :-). The word bloat sometimes hard to implement, depending the program design though. Some s/w using monolithic design (all in one) but others (said) using modular, each having own benefit. Modular make any piece of s/w can be run in stand alone (and develop by other people) or call each others, as far as you don't care about the GUI, Modular is the best choice (every developer having their taste of GUI). Monolithic in other side have all in one structure, more consistent in GUI or others (shortcut for instance). Which one do you like ? While in linux, I can compile any features as many as I want (more or less), I can even adding any patch from anybody...I can do that because most of them are Open Source, I can change the code and recompile (even sometimes make nice crash or running slow :-. Maybe plug-in is the answer for Windows world, but TB! must prepare the Interface for other program (maybe something like SDK or API to call other application and back), assume TB! using modular concept otherwise Ritlabs must develop from scratch. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Fwd: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq
Hi all, With so much discussion about newsgroups lately, I though some of you may be interested in a message I posted last April. Miguel ===8==Forwarded Message=== From: Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 6, 2002, 6:25:39 PM Subject: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq Hello all, As I have promised to some of you, and because I think it may be of interest to many others, here it goes! How to set up MailTraq4Free (http://www.mailtraq.com) to manage newsgroups from The Bat! Before starting, two notes: - The procedure explained below assumes you have just installed MailTraq. If you have been fiddling with it trying to configure it without success, it may be worth un-stalling and starting from scratch. - Because I have a network and my own mail server, my actual configuration may be a little different. But I have written the procedure below as I was actually configuring MailTraq in a stand alone machine. Here we go. It is a long one: Install MailTraq in your system and, as soon as installation is complete, the Getting Started Wizard should automatically start. If you have MailTraq already installed, you can start the Getting Started Wizard from the Help menu, so do so now. 1.- Setting your Primary Domain Name This is done in Server Properties, which you can get to by clicking Server... in the Options menu Enter your domain, if you have one, or your ISP's (the @domain.com of one of your accounts) 2.- click on the LAN tab to move to Step 2. If you are not in a network, enter 127.0.0.* If you are, your are probably using 192.168.0.* for the IP addresses or your machines. 3.- Skip step 3. 4.- Skip step 4 (select last option of the wizard) 5.- Create a new user as per step 5 of wizard. (File/Create new user) A new wizard starts: - Create a new user in MailTraq and click NEXT - Use your account (user name) (maybe a fake one?) - Yes, create a mailbox for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and NEXT - Do NOT enable forwarding. NEXT. - Do not include any aliases. NEXT. - Finish 6.- I am assuming direct connection by DSL, cable, etc. Can't test dial up myself. So, Finish to finish the wizard. 7.- Select Options/server Properties and Online tab Select Direct/permanent connection (in my case, you may have to configure Dial Up) 8.- Select Options/News Select the News Servers tab. Click Add and add your news server(s) of choice. For example, I use News.CIS.DFN.DE. On the News Server Properties enter News.CIS.DFN.DE Select Retrieve a full list of newsgroups if not selected by default. And maybe set up every how many minutes you do want to collect news from this server. On the Connection Properties tab, enter your UserID and password if required by your server of choice. Most ISP's news servers don't, but News.CIS.DFN.DE does require a user and password. Click OK. 9.- Back on the News Properties dialog, select the News Collection tab and select News Collection Enabled. 10.- The NNTP client will probably start by itself in a few seconds to collect the list of newsgroups in the server. If it doesn't, Select Actions/Collect News. 11.- Once the NNTP Clients has finished (you can see this on MailTraq Console if you have Active Connections selected on the left pannel), select Options/Newsgroups: The News Groups Subscription dialog will open and, on the Groups on server tab you will see the complete tree (list) of newsgroups available on your server. - Select one from the list, or use the Search for window to for one you know about and click Find. Once the name of your desired groups is displayed below, (I suggest that for the first time, until your get everything working, you select a NOT TOO ACTIVE newsgroup from the ones you are familiar with.) When the desired group is displayed in the Found window, click Go To and it will be highlighted in the tree below. Click and the newsgroup and the Subscribe button on the right will be activated. Click on Subscribe and then on the Properties button below to open the group Properties. The Properties tab should be filled in by default. Select the Download tab and (for the first trial) select Override Default Properties. Select (tick) Ignore Articles older than ... a few days. 30, the default, may be too much. You may also want to set now the number of days the articles
Re[2]: Please release BatNews!
BK I would REALLY like to see TB support Newsgroups and the like. TF [..] TF If you want to start a newsgroup, nobody is going to forbid it, I TF would think. He's not asking for a newsgroup about TB. He would like TB to handle newsgroups. Oh the flexibility of the english language.. :) Regards -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Please release BatNews!
Hi Cricket, On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 3:21:25 AM, you [C] wrote: RD Recently, Paul Wilson squawked: No thank you. I use a browser to surf, a newsreader for newsgroups and The Bat! for mail. Never the twain shall meet!! RD Same configuration here. Same reasons. No NG in The Bat! please. C Ditto C - -- C Cheers Yall C - -Cricket I don't understand why some people think of email and newsgroups as such radically different things that should be kept separate. I mean, when I'm viewing this mailing list, it pretty much might as well be a newsgroup - what differences are there in functionality? I for one cannot think of many. Kind regards, -- Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Please release BatNews!
B News readers and mail readers have 90% of the same features built-into B them. Exactly. There'll be very little bloat within the program, and it will greatly help un-bloat one's system if news is integrated into the Bat. I for one won't need 5 different instances of Agent anymore. Moreover, the conceptual differences between e-mail and news are small, too. Look at this very TBUDL mailing list, or the plethora of Yahoo groups - technically they're e-mail, but they work just like newsgroups. I'd love to have them all -mailing lists, newsgroups- in a single package. Anyway, the Ritlabs people say that TB2 will support newsgroups, so this whole pro/con debate is really quite useless. Regards, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 9:13:41 AM, Ben wrote: I mean, when I'm viewing this mailing list, it pretty much might as well be a newsgroup - what differences are there in functionality? I for one cannot think of many. For me email is generally addressed to me and relates to my activities. I keep it carefully archived and cataloged. The Bat is ideal for this. I don't subscribe to many mail lists. newsgroups are ephemeral things, Using Agent I typically look at a list of headers and maybe read 1 out of 100 topics. I have no interest in retaining any of the messages, GoogleGroups or other newsgroup archival services do that much better than I could. For me the two tasks are quite different and I would rather The Bat authors concentrated on perfecting their excellent email client. Regards Christopher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: 1.60 broke????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dwight, @25 June 2002, 21:20:21 -0500 (03:20 UK time) Dwight A Corrin wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] delete the existing history list how? Delete the ...\MAIL\(account)\account.his file. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GDaaOeQkq5KdzaARAgOeAKDox1l3LqK0WkUDdcLOBbg3OnRLzQCg/Qgf h11Vn4QHTljxufhSx6LhiKo= =1buS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: MD5 sum for 1.60q *.exe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Golovniov [RG] wrote: RG Any idea, Allie? There's no pattern to suggest normal behaviour that can be interpreted. You had a crash and things went all quirky. God only knows what the specific problem could be. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0YOpYACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KWYACgzng98P5xdzlnZ51Xz7TNL3AP BisAn2T7MRisv4O59iazaN/S60RJPdWe =FqpO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
Joyce Sala wrote in 003501c21b99$98513400$920e08d5@joycesala">mid:003501c21b99$98513400$920e08d5@joycesala Do you have write priviliges to that directory? Nope. You don't? Isn't that a problem in itself? Actually, i think I misunderstood Lars... If the question meant whether I can write into the Temp directory, then the answer is yes: all my other software does it. What I meant was, that *I* didn't do anything to preclude access (nor would I know how to:( Please do not quote signatures and footers when replying to the list. Please use quote marks on text to which you are replying. a. If you are referring to the signatures of the people I'm responding to, then I certainly will pay attention to that; if however you are talking about MY signature, then I'm confused: you seem to have some sort of signature. What am I missing here? b. Quoting marks: my good ol' Netscape had that feature and it worked. Here, in this awful OE6, it is checked on the plain text format, but though I'm writing to you in plain text (at least, I think I am...) it doesn't show it to you. A, I wanna outta here of this junk program a.s.a.p.!! All I'll say is don't do that here! Got it: each list and their preferences...;) To those who asked: yes, I'm using Win98se. I use NAV 2002, daily updated, and yes *normally* it download the infected message directly into its Quarantine directory and opens a window with the warning. This is why I'm also baffled. One tip: I have no problem downloading messages with OE or with Opera, so the problem really seems to be TB! related, and not message/server/virus related. In deference to the old PC (primitive computer: solve by re-set) tradition, maybe it's simpler if I uninstall and reinstall TB! altogether? What do you guys say? Thanks for your patience and amicability. Joyce === Location: Tel Aviv - Israel Phone : 972 - 3 - 649 1806 Fax : 972 - 3 - 644 4510 Primary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternative E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** When the term Global Village will be a FEELING, ** The world throughout will finally really be at PEACE. Also: I went into the dispatcher and there is no mention of viruses. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joyce, @25 June 2002, 13:05:27 +0200 (12:05 UK time) Joyce Sala wrote in 00c401c21c38$37359540$920e08d5@joycesala">mid:00c401c21c38$37359540$920e08d5@joycesala What I meant was, that *I* didn't do anything to preclude access (nor would I know how to:( Good - okay that's clearer. Please do not quote signatures and footers when replying to the list. Please use quote marks on text to which you are replying. a. If you are referring to the signatures of the people I'm responding to, I am. then I certainly will pay attention to that; Thank you - you have :-). if however you are talking about MY signature, then I'm confused: you seem to have some sort of signature. What am I missing here? No problem with *your* signature - it's fine :-). A, I wanna outta here of this junk program a.s.a.p.!! LOL! Let's try to get you moved then! To those who asked: yes, I'm using Win98se. I use NAV 2002, daily updated, and yes *normally* it download the infected message directly into its Quarantine directory and opens a window with the warning. This is why I'm also baffled. Okay - this is the problem. Such behaviour badly interferes with the way TB works and actually stops it working. It's a case of NAV pulling the rug from under TB's feet. One tip: I have no problem downloading messages with OE or with Opera, so the problem really seems to be TB! related, and not message/server/virus related. It is almost certainly virus related. You have to stop NAV quarantining the virus infected email in temp. It's killing TB to have the file it was working on and in the middle of using suddenly locked. In deference to the old PC (primitive computer: solve by re-set) tradition, maybe it's simpler if I uninstall and reinstall TB! altogether? No, that won't help. Uninstall NAV and use a less violent AV solution. That will help. TB has plug-ins available for many of the more popular brands. Disable NAV while you download your mail with TB. That will help. TB will *not* let you get unwittingly infected by simply receiving a virus. Let TB download all of your mail unimpeded by NAV *then* turn NAV back on and you'll be perfectly safe. What do you guys say? Also: I went into the dispatcher and there is no mention of viruses. It won't. It just shows you a list of the messages on your server. You can then use it to manually remove (without downloading) any message that looks like it may contain a virus infection. KLEZ is the main one going round at the moment. A KLEZ infected message will often come from someone you don't really know and is 120kb to 200kb in size. Once you have removed the infected message, it will be like pulling the cork from a bottle and the mail will then download smoothly. I would seriously reconsider the use of NAV though. It's not one for the less technical because of the other problems it causes. Also, the developers take no responsibility for the aftermath of false positives - when, through a mistake they have made in the identification database - their software deletes and corrupts perfectly innocent files, damaging other software installed on your computer. This really happened with NAV! They released an update on a Friday night with a bad ID in the database and switched the phones off for the weekend. My disgust knows no bounds. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GEgnOeQkq5KdzaARAonQAKD5NjwrOBQAeqQQtsQznorxzDohfwCfYLy+ dhmnSMF4qQ3jYm7Gyd7rWgE= =jwHL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail downloading problems
Hi Marck, MDP They released an update on a Friday night with a bad ID in the MDP database and switched the phones off for the weekend. My disgust MDP knows no bounds. Hear, hear! That type of behavior seems typical of the major publishers. I can't for the life of me imagine why otherwise sensible IT people continue to think so highly of products like Outlook and NAV when they cause so many problems that could so easily be avoided. There would have been an uprising in any other industry if the major suppliers treated its customers with such contempt. If it wasn't for MS' criminal neglect, I wouldn't have to cleansweep my inbox from Outlook-propagated worms everyday and that's just one of many gripes. To get back on topic, what do we know of The Bat's security? Assuming a new installation with default settings, is there any way at all that an incoming message could have its attachment executed, or trigger a macro? Could The Bat's functionality be abused by a third party program to spread worms (that is: is the Outbox etc protected from outside meddling)? I'm not worrying, but if there's any vulnerability, it would be good to be aware of it. Best, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @25 June 2002, 13:04:59 +0200 (12:04 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is there any way at all that an incoming message could have its attachment executed, or trigger a macro? Not without the user double-clicking the attachment, ignoring the huge warning box that comes up, clicking on a Go on - hurt me bad button and generally submitting to a death-wish. IOW No. Not without doing so longhand. Nothing automatic. Could The Bat's functionality be abused by a third party program to spread worms (that is: is the Outbox etc protected from outside meddling)? I'm not worrying, but if there's any vulnerability, it would be good to be aware of it. There was a vulnerability at one point where a specially constructed header could exploit a loophole and maybe save a file on the hard disk. Nothing would have made it execute that file automatically and the hole has long since (18 months?) been plugged. It was fixed within 24 hours IIRC. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GFP8OeQkq5KdzaARAndeAJ9WucKjkghm4DlBo4W2jQ3R9/LkVACfUqZ1 o/asB5Ys0nc1xfLvEFGp+Ic= =z5wX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail downloading problems
Hello buds, MDP It is almost certainly virus related. You have to stop NAV MDP quarantining the virus infected email in temp. It's killing TB to have the file it was working on and in the middle of using suddenly locked. In deference to the old PC (primitive computer: solve by re-set) tradition, maybe it's simpler if I uninstall and reinstall TB! altogether? MDP No, that won't help. Uninstall NAV and use a less violent AV solution. MDP That will help. TB has plug-ins available for many of the more popular MDP brands. FYI.. I'm running Win XP Pro, TB 1.60q, and NAV most current release and have never had a problem with it hanging up TB. There is a temp file issue (residual email being left in temp directory).. which I do consider an issue.. NAV has found several viruses which were virus containing files. Laura -- Best regards, alistsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: 1.60 broke????
On Monday, June 24, 2002, 9:57:16 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: I forgot to turn back OFF the history part, and it crashed again on me... I already sent a file, so I won't do it again! I renamed the file (would have deleted but might be of further use) and the problem went away when created new .his file. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
On 6/24/02 at 8:15 PM Jonathan E. Brickman wrote: Hi all, I would REALLY like to see TB support Newsgroups and the like. Anyone else? Me too! = TB! is already having trouble keeping the bugs out of its current feature set. Let's not make it even more complex. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Large messages transformed into attachments
Listmembers, Has anyone else noticed that if the message text itself gets kind of large (my estimate is that this happens when messages are larger than half a MiB) TB! no longer displays the messagetext in the messagepane but instead shows an empty messagepane and treats the messagetext as an attachment? The attachment shows as a text-file named message.txt. I'm using TB! to handle the postmaster mailbox at work, and regularly receive return messages from bounced mail where the original is inserted in the messagetext by the MTA and that sometimes results in mails that easily exceed 15MiB. Besides being annoying because I have to open these text files in order to see what was the cause of the bounce; it also seems to interfere with the filtering system because filters on the message text are apparently not applied. Does anyone know of a way to turn this behaviour (turning the message into a message.txt attachment) off? -- With kind regards, Maurice Snellen Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hello Christopher Taylor-Davies, In Reference to your Posting on Tuesday, June 25 2002 at 01:40 AM PDT, newsgroups are ephemeral things, Hardly. Some of the Newsgroups I subscribe to have been around for years. Using Agent I typically look at a list of headers and maybe read 1 out of 100 topics. I have no interest in retaining any of the messages In your case, I would say you've subscribed to a Newsgroup that holds little interest for you. OTOH, there is a Newsgroup for Eudora for instance that keeps strictly to the subject, is frequented by some very knowledgable people, and has an extremely high volume. It is very similar to Eudora's Mailing List... only with a much higher call volume. A properly configured Newsreader will allow you to handle those higher volumes and archive important messages. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Threading
There was a thread (or multiple threads) recently on the Beta list about the current version's problems with threading. I don't recall any resolution to it, though. Is there a sense here about what has caused the problem, and whether it is on the way to being repaired/restored? -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hello Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats], In Reference to your Posting on Tuesday, June 25 2002 at 01:25 AM PDT, I'd love to have them all -mailing lists, newsgroups- in a single package. Exactly one of the reasons I use Becky's inherent Newsreader; Keeping News and Mail together on one application. I think RITLabs would do well to design a nice Newsreader that can take advantage of TB's inherent qualities such as filtering and her very robust Editor. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hello Daniel, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:08:28 +0200 GMT (25/06/02, 15:08 +0700 GMT), Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote: DvRC He's not asking for a newsgroup about TB. He would like TB to handle DvRC newsgroups. Oh the flexibility of the english language.. :) Yeah, I got that wrong. But as has been said already, Stefan announced a few months ago that he is working on a newsreader functionality for TB, and as Marck has confirmed, this discussion is therefore useless. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hellenolophobie: Angst vor griechischen Fachausdruecken. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
Hello Daniel, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 13:04:59 +0200 GMT (25/06/02, 18:04 +0700 GMT), Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote: MDP They released an update on a Friday night with a bad ID in the MDP database and switched the phones off for the weekend. My disgust MDP knows no bounds. DvRC Hear, hear! That type of behavior seems typical of the major DvRC publishers. I cannot confirm this for Trend Microsystems, whose PC-Cillin I use. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
ROT13 support
Hello tbudl, Ok, I know very few people use ROT13 these days, but I do find it usefull occassionaly to 'encrypt' flame bait so as to keep it from bothering people on a list yet still feel like I had my say. I can't find this function in The Bat. Am I just overlooking it, or is it wisely not supported since its old old old and hardly used? If its not supported, anyone know of a nice plug in that I could use? And heck, if I'm using a plug in, is there one that will do ROT(N) so I can be even a little more off the wall? -- Best regards, Gary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Hi, Gary wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Ok, I know very few people use ROT13 these days, but I do find it usefull occassionaly to 'encrypt' flame bait so as to keep it from bothering people on a list yet still feel like I had my say. [...] If its not supported, anyone know of a nice plug in that I could use? And heck, if I'm using a plug in, is there one that will do ROT(N) so I can be even a little more off the wall? There used to be an XLAT table for just that purpose. (Later) Ah yes, there it is: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: Please release BatNews!
Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 1:25:51 AM, you wrote: [snip] DvRC Anyway, the Ritlabs people say that TB2 will support newsgroups, so DvRC this whole pro/con debate is really quite useless. DvRC Regards, DvRC -Daan- I've been reading this thread with interest and some puzzlement .. seems to me that if it's there, no law says you have to use it. For those who want it, great! Reading Miquel's handy instructions (thanks Miguel) for NewsTraq, I think it was .. reminded me why I don't use UseNet any more .. but like everything else, there are good and bad groups there. It's just that plowing through them to find the gems is a bit daunting ... Lynn -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Hello Gary, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:35:15 -0400 GMT (25/06/02, 21:35 +0700 GMT), Gary wrote: G I can't find this function in The Bat. Am I just overlooking it, or G is it wisely not supported since its old old old and hardly used? If you are using Win98, unpack the attachment and double-click on it. It will give you ROT13 as one of the encoding/decoding options. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM rot13.zip Description: Zip compressed data
BSOD
When I double click an html link in the bat...Opera opens up but sometimes I get a BSOD with this error. Would this have anything to do with TB!?? (This is W2K) The only reason I ask regarding TB! is it mentions the word mail in the error. ;o) Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7000 Date: 6/25/2002 Time: 9:31:19 AM User: N/A Computer: ATHLON2 Description: The dwatch monitor for dmail servers service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the path specified. -- Pete 9:34:00 AM Ask about eScan Content-Security and Anti-Virus Software. We will meet ALL of your anti-virus needs. www.milneweb.com Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Retaining Display View
Howdy TheBatUsers, My preferred mode for viewing messages lists is to display only unread messages. I've found that I need to manually set this under View | Display every time I start TB. Is it possible to somehow retain this setting so that this is the default view when TB starts? Thanks. -- Chris Montgomery Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
[Nick Andriash] I think RITLabs would do well to design a nice Newsreader that can take advantage of TB's inherent qualities such as filtering and her very robust Editor. TB's editor is the current state of the art. There is simply nothing better out there, and I think I've tried everything under the sun. Whatever RITLabs do, I really hope they don't mess up the editor. And, are you saying that TB! is a 'she'? If so, that explains why I'm head over ears in love with this baby. -- Best regards, Jan-Arild Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: BSOD
Hi, Pete Milne wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : When I double click an html link in the bat...Opera opens up but sometimes I get a BSOD with this error. Would this have anything to do with TB!?? (This is W2K) The only reason I ask regarding TB! is it mentions the word mail in the error. ;o) [...] The dwatch monitor for dmail servers service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the path specified. Check your system. You seem to be running additional software called dmail (dwatch is part of this). This should be unrelated to The Bat! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Hello Gary, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:35:15 -0400 GMT (25/06/02, 21:35 +0700 GMT), Gary wrote: G I can't find this function in The Bat. Am I just overlooking it, or G is it wisely not supported since its old old old and hardly used? I have tried to attach the registry key that you need to import in order to enable TB to use ROT13, but I seem to be unalbe to send attachments. Therefore, in plain text: If you use Win98, cp the following into Notepad (or your favourite plaintext editor), name it rot13.reg and double-click on it while TB is closed. It will install ROT13 capability into TB upon next startup. Look under character set when you right-click on an incoming message, or Options / Message Encoding when compsing a message. rot13.reg REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\XLT\ROT13] @=ROT13 Order=dword:000e Table=hex:00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0d,0e,0f,10,11,12,13,14,15,\ 16,17,18,19,1a,1b,1c,1d,1e,1f,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,2a,2b,2c,2d,2e,\ 2f,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,3a,3b,3c,3d,3e,3f,40,4e,4f,50,51,52,53,54,\ 55,56,57,58,59,5a,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,4a,4b,4c,4d,5b,5c,5d,5e,5f,60,\ 6e,6f,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,7a,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,6a,6b,6c,\ 6d,7b,7c,7d,7e,7f,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,8a,8b,8c,8d,8e,8f,90,91,92,\ 93,94,95,96,97,98,99,9a,9b,9c,9d,9e,9f,a0,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8,a9,aa,ab,\ ac,ad,ae,af,b0,b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9,ba,bb,bc,bd,be,bf,c0,c1,c2,c3,c4,\ c5,c6,c7,c8,c9,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,d0,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,d9,da,db,dc,dd,\ de,df,e0,e1,e2,e3,e4,e5,e6,e7,e8,e9,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,f0,f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6,\ f7,f8,f9,fa,fb,fc,fd,fe,ff Reverse table=hex:00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0d,0e,0f,10,11,12,\ 13,14,15,16,17,18,19,1a,1b,1c,1d,1e,1f,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,2a,2b,\ 2c,2d,2e,2f,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,3a,3b,3c,3d,3e,3f,40,4e,4f,50,51,\ 52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,5a,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,4a,4b,4c,4d,5b,5c,5d,\ 5e,5f,60,6e,6f,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,7a,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,\ 6a,6b,6c,6d,7b,7c,7d,7e,7f,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,8a,8b,8c,8d,8e,8f,\ 90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,9a,9b,9c,9d,9e,9f,a0,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8,\ a9,aa,ab,ac,ad,ae,af,b0,b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9,ba,bb,bc,bd,be,bf,c0,c1,\ c2,c3,c4,c5,c6,c7,c8,c9,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,d0,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,d9,da,\ db,dc,dd,de,df,e0,e1,e2,e3,e4,e5,e6,e7,e8,e9,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,f0,f1,f2,f3,\ f4,f5,f6,f7,f8,f9,fa,fb,fc,fd,fe,ff Script=dword:0001 /rot13.reg Cyrnfr pbasvez lbh pna ernq guvf. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wanted: $10,000 reward. Schroedinger's Cat. Dead or Alive. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: ROT13 support
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 12:09:58 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Gary, TF On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:35:15 -0400 GMT (25/06/02, 21:35 +0700 GMT), TF Gary wrote: G I can't find this function in The Bat. Am I just overlooking it, or G is it wisely not supported since its old old old and hardly used? TF I have tried to attach the registry key that you need to import in TF order to enable TB to use ROT13, but I seem to be unalbe to send TF attachments. Hmm, the file attachment came through just fine on my message. Ran it, seems to work, but doesn't seem to provide what I want. I can use it to translate an entire message, including headers, into ROT13 format. But then, with the headers in ROT13 format, the message is than unsendable. Ideally, I'd like to just select some text and have it ROT13'd. Alternatively, if just the body of the message was encoded that would work. Worst case, I can modify a perl script and create an outgoing email filter. Something like if ---EncodeROT--- is present, than run the perl script with the message as a parm, and ROT13 everything between the ---encode--- and -stopencode-- flags. Or I can just continue to use CGI web sites and cut and paste. IE the lazy route. -- Best regards, Garymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Hello Gary, 25. junij 2002, 18:25:42, you wrote: G Ran it, seems to work, but doesn't seem to provide what I want. These two QT's were published on TBtech once: =8[r13]--- %COMMENT='%CLIPBOARD'%- %IF:%COMMENT:%- %QINCLUDE='r13_r'%- %COMMENT=''%- =8 =8[r13_r]- %IF:~%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([a-zA-Z])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_~=~~%- :~%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-m)^(.)_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_~%- :~%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([a-f])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^a_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:n%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^b_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+o+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^c_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:p%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^d_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$q$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^e_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:r%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^f_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|s|%- $+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([g-m])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^g_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:t%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^h_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+u+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^i_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:v%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^j_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$w$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^k_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:x%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^l_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|y|%- :|%IF:;%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^m_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_;;;:;z;%- |$+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([n-t])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^n_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:a%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^o_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+b+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^p_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:c%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^q_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$d$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^r_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:e%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^s_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|f|%- :|%IF:;%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^t_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_;;;:;g;%- |$+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([u-z])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^u_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:h%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^v_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+i+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^w_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:j%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^x_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$k$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^y_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:l%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^z_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|m|%- $+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([A-F])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^A_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:N%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^B_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+O+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^C_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:P%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^D_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$Q$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^E_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:R%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^F_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|S|%- $+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([G-M])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^G_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:T%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^H_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+U+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^I_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:V%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^J_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$W$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^K_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:X%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^L_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|Y|%- :|%IF:;%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^M_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_;;;:;Z;%- |$+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([N-T])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^N_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:A%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^O_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+B+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^P_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:C%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^Q_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$D$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^R_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:E%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^S_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|F|%- :|%IF:;%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^T_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_;;;:;G;%- |$+%- #%- %IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^([U-Z])_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_###%- :#%- %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^U_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:H%- :%IF:+%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^V_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_+++:+I+%- :+%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^W_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:J%- :%IF:$%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^X_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_$$$:$K$%- :$%IF:%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^Y_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_:L%- :%IF:|%SETPATTREGEXP=_(?s-mi)^Z_%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_|||:|M|%- $+%- #~%- %comment=%setpattregexp=_(?s-mi)^.(.*)_%regexpmatch=_%comment_%- %IF:'%COMMENT''':'%qinclude=r13_r'%- =8 Copy these two QT's to your quick templates, the 1st can be called whatever you wish, but the second must be r13_r (without quotes). Then to use, copy the text you wish rot-13'ed to clipboard, type the name of first template and press Ctrl+Space... Note that the template is quite slow... ,- [ Sample ] | Guvf vf n fnzcyr ebg-13 rapbqrq
Re: ROT13 support
Hello Gary, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:25:42 -0400 GMT (25/06/02, 23:25 +0700 GMT), Gary wrote: G Hmm, the file attachment came through just fine on my message. Not here, at least not yet. G I can use it to translate an entire message, including headers, into G ROT13 format. But then, with the headers in ROT13 format, the message G is than unsendable. That is true. :-( I use the following work-around: I create a message (like the one you replied to), and create anotehr one, this one encoded in ROT13, save it as draft, and then cp the encoded fragment into the message I am composing. (The saved message gets moved into trash.) G Ideally, I'd like to just select some text and have it ROT13'd. G Alternatively, if just the body of the message was encoded that would G work. Yes, I'd like that too. G Worst case, I can modify a perl script and create an outgoing email G filter. Something like if ---EncodeROT--- is present, than run the G perl script with the message as a parm, and ROT13 everything between G the ---encode--- and -stopencode-- flags. Yes you could. It seems a bit more work than my method, though. G Or I can just continue to use CGI web sites and cut and paste. IE the G lazy route. That's the lazy route? I must be over-lazy. g Pna lbh ernq guvf be abg? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bruno Labbadia (Karlsruher SC): Das wird alles von den Medien hochsterilisiert. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
On 6/25/02 at 5:50 PM Jan-Arild Løkstad wrote: TB's editor is the current state of the art. There is simply nothing better out there, and I think I've tried everything under the sun. Whatever RITLabs do, I really hope they don't mess up the editor. = I certainly hope you are not talking about the plain-text editor. ;-) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 5:38:29 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: To those who asked: yes, I'm using Win98se. I use NAV 2002, daily updated, and yes *normally* it download the infected message directly into its Quarantine directory and opens a window with the warning. This is why I'm also baffled. Okay - this is the problem. Such behaviour badly interferes with the way TB works and actually stops it working. It's a case of NAV pulling the rug from under TB's feet. One tip: I have no problem downloading messages with OE or with Opera, so the problem really seems to be TB! related, and not message/server/virus related. It is almost certainly virus related. You have to stop NAV quarantining the virus infected email in temp. It's killing TB to have the file it was working on and in the middle of using suddenly locked. Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The business about false positives is pretty outrageous, but NAV does not stop TB! when it finds a virus. It puts up a dialog window asking what you want done with the virus, and goes on and processes mail. This weekend my computer ran for several hours unattended, and NAV detected three viruses, at various times during mail checks, left me with three different windows asking what to do with each virus, and downloaded mail as it came in. (I haven't had a temp file problem for months either). -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dwight, @25 June 2002, 09:19:34 -0500 (15:19 UK time) Dwight A Corrin wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is almost certainly virus related. You have to stop NAV quarantining the virus infected email in temp. It's killing TB to have the file it was working on and in the middle of using suddenly locked. Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The business about false positives is pretty outrageous, Isn't it though! :-). but NAV does not stop TB! when it finds a virus. It puts up a dialog window asking what you want done with the virus, and goes on and processes mail. Okay, but this is reported behaviour. I'm only repeating previous advice and commentary. I think it may be a matter of configuration and response. There is something you can do at the point of notification that *does* stop TB in its tracks. It doesn't happen to everyone but it seems that it *does* happen. I believe it is happening to Joyce. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GKWNOeQkq5KdzaARAmWMAJ4/uyV3vqCWQ8Y+9yy+gi5opl3XpgCggQwL ay5cKWmpCNcj03pbJ4UchWc= =Jkrz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi MikeM, @25 June 2002, 12:58:13 -0400 (17:58 UK time) MikeM wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever RITLabs do, I really hope they don't mess up the editor. I certainly hope you are not talking about the plain-text editor. ;-) _Thin ice alert!_ There may be a number of people who don't get the TB text editor. There are more who will defend its excellence to the death. Let's not get into that one again, eh? Suffice to say that opinions differ. Don't make me DH the thread. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GKX7OeQkq5KdzaARAgcgAJ99XgrKBs+dm6xqhGAmSqVzKZ4wYgCgiXGf MJzxdgKNRNrIg/VXke8cp3k= =F2+N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Please release BatNews!
Hi Marck, On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 10:18:40 AM, you [MDP] wrote: Anyway, the Ritlabs people say that TB2 will support newsgroups, so this whole pro/con debate is really quite useless. MDP moderator MDP Precisely! MDP /moderator Well that's fine then - roll on TB2! :D -- Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hi Jan-Arild, on Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:50:24 +0200GMT (25.06.02, 17:50 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JAL And, are you saying that TB! is a 'she'? If so, that explains why JAL I'm head over ears in love with this baby. You're not the only one! :o) Of course The Bat! is a she - don't you notice the beautiful eye makeup? ;-)) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
On 6/25/02 at 6:18 PM Marck D Pearlstone wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi MikeM, @25 June 2002, 12:58:13 -0400 (17:58 UK time) MikeM wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever RITLabs do, I really hope they don't mess up the editor. I certainly hope you are not talking about the plain-text editor. ;-) _Thin ice alert!_ = I'm skating back towards the shore. :-) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 11:13:41 AM, Ben Kennish wrote: I don't understand why some people think of email and newsgroups as such radically different things that should be kept separate. Because it is radically different things that should be kept seperate. I mean, when I'm viewing this mailing list, it pretty much might as well be a newsgroup - what differences are there in functionality? I for one cannot think of many. Well, if I put a kde theme on my Win 2000 then my Win should like like linux with kde but it won't be linux with kde Just because mailing lists and newsgroups look alike does not mean that they are alike. I think that is the n_th (n-+oo) that we have that argue in the list. -- /\/\ || George M. Menegakis - System Administrator || || Centre of Communications and Networking|| || Iraklion Campus - University Of Crete || || mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], icq: 4557532 || || phone: +30 81 393 306, fax:+30 81 39 3318 || \/\/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: MAIL DOWNLOADING PROBLEMS
Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:15:03[GMT -0500] (4:15 PM EDST) Allie C Martin wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Grunberg [DG] wrote: DG 1. I used my browser to go to http://www.e-mailanywhere.com/, a DG Web-based site for accessing an existing pop-based e-mail account DG that I had read about. You do realize don't you, that you could have used TB!'s own message dispatcher to do the same thing. I do now, although I didn't then. Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Auto-reply by filter no longer working :-(
MO On Thursday, June 20, 2002, 23:22, Chris Weaven wrote: The only things that have changed is I've added in the filter to sort The Bat! using the guidelines attached to the 'welcome' mail and I've added a few quick templates, but that's it. My guess is it's got something to do with the filter added for any 'tbudl' messages. MO The filters are interpreted from top to bottom and TB! stops when it MO first hits a filter that matches. If you want to keep processing with MO other filters, tic Continue processing with other filters on the MO Options tab. MO Does this information help? I'm posting this again, as I've no responses yets and it's quite urgent that I get it working again as I plan to close an e-mail account. It's stopped again :-( Why does it work sometimes and then it doesn't on others? He's another thought about it. My name is 1 of many in the 'to' list, whereas the ones that are sent to just me get the auto reply. Is there still something wrong in the filter? Thanks, Chris. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Tuesday, 6/25/02, 1:31 PM Hi PFord, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, at 00:02:50 [GMT -0400] (which was 9:02 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Please release BatNews!' P Why? The world is moving to unified messaging - not just email, P newsgroups, instant messaging and other text-based communication - but P voice and even video messaging. We will have to disagree on this one. I see just the opposite happening. Yes there are the people who want everything available through their cell phone or PCS. Those are the ones you see reading E-mail at a bus stop. They could not tell you what color the roses are on a bush across the street or whether the girl waiting for the bus is wearing silk stockings or what color her hair is. I don't see that in my circle of friends or co-workers. More people are looking to simple modular concepts to handle individual tasks. P People get weary of having to track communications in a plethora of P different applications and mediums. There is always AOL for them. P It seems to me the least TB! needs to keep up is NNTP support. Miguel provides a perfect solution for that in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your communication is greatly appreciated, Paul -- INCAM: INCrement Arbitrary Memory Powered by The Bat! v1.60q under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
