Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Miguel, Sunday, May 27, 2012, 9:47:59 AM, among other things, you wrote: M I can see both the US flag and the Canada flag but not :Hawthorne:, so M maybe it's not in the list anymore for some reason. M Anyway, have you tried right clicking on your message and, in the M context menu, making sure 'Use Plain Text Viewer' is NOT selected and M that 'Smilies' IS selected? It does make a difference. I am intrigued that you can see the flags and the Rogue picture. I have the settings you describe in the paragraph above this one but, like in Lyn's case, the flags do not display and have not done so in recent versions. Perhaps there is some other setting that you have but which we do not have? I am finding it extremely annoying that as version five proceeds we lose more and more of the features which we have been using for years. In some cases it may be just from some new setting requirement but as is Ritlabs' way they do not ever tell anyone about these changes, or their policy for the future! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.6.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Roger, Perhaps there is some other setting that you have but which we do not have? Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/HTML Viewer/'Use smiley icons in HTML viewer' makes a difference, it should be ticked. Then, what I suggest in my previous message works. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Lynn, It was because I thought/understood you could not see them yourself. I'm not sure I've ever been able to see them myself - am I supposed to be able to? That is, am I supposed to see the flags and my mug shot in *my own* messages on the list? Yes, you should be able to see them. See my reply to Roger Phillips in this same thread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Miguel, Monday, May 28, 2012, 11:55:06 AM, among other things, you wrote: M Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/HTML Viewer/'Use smiley icons in HTML M viewer' makes a difference, it should be ticked. Then, what I suggest in M my previous message works. I already had that setting and have now tried all combinations of HTML choices, but still no flags or sender picture. Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what they are seeing. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.6.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Roger, On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote: RP Hello Miguel, RP Monday, May 28, 2012, 11:55:06 AM, among other things, you wrote: M Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/HTML Viewer/'Use smiley icons in HTML M viewer' makes a difference, it should be ticked. Then, what I suggest in M my previous message works. RP I already had that setting and have now tried all combinations of HTML RP choices, but still no flags or sender picture. RP Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of RP something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately RP seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what RP they are seeing. Roger, I *think* I have everything set up as Miguel suggests: http://clip2net.com/s/1YdpX and I don't see any of Lynn's images either. Looking at the insides of my C:\Program Files\The Bat! folder I have a folder called C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me. Although I have no recollection of manipulating these folders in any way, I have no idea if this is the way these folders and files are supposed to be arranged within my C:\Program Files\The Bat! folder. Please note that in my sig it shows that I'm still using ver: 4.2.44.2 so your concerns regarding v5 may be unfounded. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa (Central Alabama, USA) Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Roger, Monday, May 28, 2012, 2:32:17 PM, you wrote: RP Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of RP something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately RP seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what RP they are seeing. I see both your picture and flag. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 218 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 217 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19921 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Jack, Monday, May 28, 2012, 3:33:47 PM, among other things, you wrote: RP I already had that setting and have now tried all combinations of HTML RP choices, but still no flags or sender picture. RP Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of RP something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately RP seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what RP they are seeing. JSL Roger, I *think* I have everything set up as Miguel suggests: JSL http://clip2net.com/s/1YdpX and I don't see any of Lynn's images either. Looking JSL at the insides of my C:\Program Files\The Bat! folder I have a folder called JSL C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one JSL flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program JSL Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of JSL flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me. JSL Although I have no recollection of manipulating these folders in any way, I have JSL no idea if this is the way these folders and files are supposed to be JSL arranged within my C:\Program Files\The Bat! folder. JSL Please note that in my sig it shows that I'm still using ver: 4.2.44.2 so your JSL concerns regarding v5 may be unfounded. Strange to say, if I run 4.2.44.2 all things are displayed! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.6.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Mark, Monday, May 28, 2012, 3:40:24 PM, among other things, you wrote: MP Hello Roger, MP Monday, May 28, 2012, 2:32:17 PM, you wrote: RP Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of RP something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately RP seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what RP they are seeing. MP I see both your picture and flag. Thanks for replying. As I said above, one of those things which work in some computers and not in others, and the cause is still unknown. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.6.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Jack, C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me. It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP to extract). The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three folders and three *.msl files, namely: Default pcwimages rogues default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so, move or copy the newer version to Images folder. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Roger, I already had that setting and have now tried all combinations of HTML choices, but still no flags or sender picture. Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what they are seeing. Look for my latest reply to Jack and see if what I say helps. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello MAU, On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote: M Hello Jack, C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me. M It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the M past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP M to extract). M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three M folders and three *.msl files, namely: M Default M pcwimages M rogues M default.msl M pcwsmileys.msl M rogues.msl M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. M If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the M corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so, M move or copy the newer version to Images folder. Aha! I was missing the pcwsmileys.msl file which I found elsewhere (obviously not where it was supposed to be) and copied it to my C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder. NOW when I revisit one of Lynn's previous emails I can see her animated .gif of the American flag and her non-animated .gif of the Canadian flag. However, her Rougemoticon (:Hawthorne:), which is also in her sig, doesn't display her picture. But I think that needs to be in her X-Rogue header as mine is in order to display her picture elsewhere onscreen (not in the sig.) In order to stave off any confusion, my picture has not been changed even though I submitted a new picture and was notified that it had been approved. The latest rogues.zip file still contains the old photo. In addition, my picture no longer displays (as it once did) when I look at a message I've sent to the list. Ah, the joys of TB! Thanks Miguel. This is the first time I've ever been able to see the flags. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello MAU, On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote: M Hello Jack, C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me. M It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the M past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP M to extract). M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three M folders and three *.msl files, namely: M Default M pcwimages M rogues M default.msl M pcwsmileys.msl M rogues.msl M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. M If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the M corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so, M move or copy the newer version to Images folder. As mentioned in the previous reply I can see Lynn's flags now thanks to your help. However, when I add :usflag: to my sig (as it is here) I do not see the flag, only the :usflag: rougemoticon (if that's what it's supposed to be called.) Do you suppose it has to be sent and received before it will appear? I guess I'll find out. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello MAU, On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote: M Hello Jack, C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me. M It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the M past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP M to extract). M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three M folders and three *.msl files, namely: M Default M pcwimages M rogues M default.msl M pcwsmileys.msl M rogues.msl M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. M If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the M corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so, M move or copy the newer version to Images folder. Yep. That's what it was. The US flag now appears on the line containing Central Alabama in my sig. Thanks again Miguel. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Flag test
Greetings, Just a test. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: :alabamaflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Jack, However, her Rougemoticon (:Hawthorne:), which is also in her sig, doesn't display her picture. But I think that needs to be in her X-Rogue header as mine is in order to display her picture elsewhere onscreen (not in the sig.) I think so too. It is not displayed in her signature because it is not an smiley, it is a rogue. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Jack, Yep. That's what it was. The US flag now appears on the line containing Central Alabama in my sig. Thanks again Miguel. You owe me eleventeen beers ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Miguel, Monday, May 28, 2012, 5:22:51 PM, among other things, you wrote: M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three M folders and three *.msl files, namely: M Default M pcwimages M rogues M default.msl M pcwsmileys.msl M rogues.msl M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. Thank you for this information. I have several versions operating in parallel for testing purposes and had not realised that their respective Images files varied. I copied the 4.2.44.2 file contents to the 5.6.2 file and everything is now displaying in the latter version. Unfortunately I cannot send you any South African beers but hopefully one day I will visit Spain again and can visit you complete with beer. Many thanks. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.6.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello MAU, On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote: M Hello Jack, Yep. That's what it was. The US flag now appears on the line containing Central Alabama in my sig. Thanks again Miguel. M You owe me eleventeen beers ;-) Ok, I'd appreciate it if you'd start a tab because now I realize that I'm no longer seeing any Rogue pictures. When I select to display the X-Rogue header I see that you have :mau: in your email X-Rogue header so I should be seeing your picture as I used to, but not any longer. Any ideas? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.44.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello MAU, Monday, May 28, 2012, 10:22:51 AM, you wrote: It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP to extract). The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three folders and three *.msl files, namely: Default pcwimages rogues default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl I just realized I had no pcwsmileys on my home computer, but this link http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php has a link to the pcwsmileys.zip file, but it is not working. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/28/2012, you wrote: Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/HTML Viewer/'Use smiley icons in HTML viewer' makes a difference, it should be ticked. Then, what I suggest in my previous message works. It's checkede here, but as I said before, no flags, no mug shots - But it may have something todo with running in Wine here. Do you see my flags/mug shot? Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/28/2012, you wrote: As mentioned in the previous reply I can see Lynn's flags now thanks to your help. However, when I add :usflag: to my sig (as it is here) I do not see the flag, only the :usflag: rougemoticon (if that's what it's supposed to be called.) Do you suppose it has to be sent and received before it will appear? I guess I'll find out. Still not seeing flags nor mug shots. BUT ... later I will dig around in the folders, and see what is and is not there. I suspect I don't have the requisite folders ... Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/28/2012, you wrote: It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP to extract). The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three folders and three *.msl files, namely: Default pcwimages rogues default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so, move or copy the newer version to Images folder. Thank you for this! It may (or may not) be the solution to my problem, but I have somethng to look for! Eleventeen virtual beers earmarked for you - sorry to also be too far away to send them for real! Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
