Re: Read Filters

[Stuart Hemming]

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M> Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-)
How did you manage that? When I try to set it up using the spacebar
it's not registered; the shortcut reads 'none'.

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Error: Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.

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Re: Read Filters

[Stuart Hemming]

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AM> Interesting. Never could do that. Lucky you. :) I'd use read filters
AM> more if that worked here.
I manually mark all mine read and the read filter works, it's just if
I mark multiple messages that I have a problem.

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Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you.

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Re: Read Filters

[Stuart Hemming]

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M> To tell you the truth, I don't remember. I did it a long time ago. I
M> seem to recall there was some "conflict" and that I had to change some
M> other shortcut first, but I'm not even sure about this
I've cleared the existing shortcut that used space, but as I couldn't
even assign the key I can't see how that could have been the problem.

[later]

I've just tried with another - in use - shortcut and it allowed me to
do that.

I think that this is a  bug. I've posted something in TBBETA asking if
someone else could try using SPACE as a new shortcut.

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There isn't enough chocolate in my diet.

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Re: Disembodied trash

[Stuart Hemming]

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AJ> I seem to now have a trash can outside of all my account folder trees.
It's for your common folders.

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Error: Government.SYS corrupted... Re-boot Parliament? (Y/Y).

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Re: Special copy from listview

[Stuart Hemming]

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tko> Am I missing a way to do this currently? Any thoughts on the idea?
Could you not write a filter to find the necessary messages and
export them?

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Re: Off Topic, but I've no where else to post it.

[Stuart Hemming]

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kg> Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
Missed point error in line 1.

I know how to get hold of support; I wanted RitLabs to know that
their website had a duff address on it.

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Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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Re: Time for a Newsgroup?

[Stuart Hemming]

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JN> I have preferred this ML format to a newsgroup format, but IMO the
JN> volume of this list has now exceeded a busy person's ability to handle
JN> it in mailing list format.
FWIW, I access news using TB! and MyGate so would see no change or
benefit from moving from a ML to NNTP.

Just my tuppence worth.

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My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

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Re: Too many initials used in quoting

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Is the 2nd macro right? I'm thinking about the quote marks ...

,- [  ]
| %CAPITAL='%ABofromNAME="%-
| %QINCLUDE=_Full Name - No AB Entry_"'
`-

I get Cfa too.

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With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress.

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Re: Too many initials used in quoting

[Stuart Hemming]

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SH>> ,- [  ]
SH>> `-

MDP> Nothing wrong there.

??

SH>> | %CAPITAL='%ABofromNAME="%-
^_^ One single, one double
SH>> | %QINCLUDE=_Full Name - No AB Entry_"'
__^^ And the same again.

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Re: Too many initials used in quoting

[Stuart Hemming]

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RO> Note that the %- macro is used to enhance readability (even though it
RO> seems to confuse you
That's me, Mr Confused.

Just for interests sake, can you tell me why replying to a message
with this 'To:' line ...

,- [  ]
| Stuart Hemming (via DFN-CIS NetNews Service) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`-

I get 'S>' rather than the expected 'SH>'.

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Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on
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Re: Too many initials used in quoting

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RO> Insufficient data. I'd need the original From: line and not the
RO> original To: to make more than a guess. And I'd need the complete
RO> macro/QT you're using...
Meant 'From' typed 'To'

From: "Stuart Hemming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

macro is 'Initials' straight out of the library.

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Re: Too many initials used in quoting

[Stuart Hemming]

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BBT> Have you selected "First Initial" (that's the setting I use) instead
BBT> of "Initials"?
Nope. It's set to 'Initials' and I'm using the 'Initial's QT from the
library.

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Re: BayesIt

[Stuart Hemming]

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RO> No. If it would do that, it should decide on spam on the headers,
RO> that's not very likely to be a very precise method.
I expected that.

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He often broke into song because he couldn't find the key.

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Re: All Email maked as Junk...

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MR> I have now trained the plug-in and it (for now) seems to be
MR> cooperating better. Here's what I did:
MR> - Went to each folder (Received messages( and marked all the messages
MR>   as NOT Junk.
MR> - Closed out the program
MR> - Opened it back up.

MR> I don't know if all that is required. Hopefully this will help someone
MR> else having this problem.
That appears to have worked for me. Thanks for that.

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Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

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Re: BayesIt is having a laugh...

[Stuart Hemming]

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MG> Help - I am now spending the afternoon retrieving weanted mail from
MG> the Junk folder - until TB 2.10.1 and BIT 5 everything went
MG> swimmingly, Junk was never wrong. Now it's worse than useless.
Did you try Michael Rudnick's suggestion ...

,- [  ]
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| cooperating better. Here's what I did: - Went to each folder (Received
| messages( and marked all the messages   as NOT Junk. - Closed out the
| program - Opened it back up.
`-

This worked for me. Make sure you stop and restart TB! after doing the
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The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A
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Duff Template (Was: Re: Help! Disappearing address book.)

[Stuart Hemming]

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PC> Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
PC> Service Pack 1
PC>   (avast! version number)
PC>  (avast! DB version number)
PC>  (avast! plugin version number)

Something tells me that your template is working quite right, or am I
missing the point?

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I was doing some decorating, so I got out my step-ladder. I don't get
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Re: Navigation Frustration

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M> What is his/her setting in Options/Preferences/Messages/When moving to
M> next/previous unread...? Has he/she tried different settings?
I've asked him what his settings are, but, FWIW, none of the settings
here actually make any difference ...

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Re: Navigation Frustration

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M> I'll try to make some test tonight.
TVM.

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A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two-tired.

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Re: Navigation Frustration

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M> I'll try to make some test tonight.
Did you discover anything?

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The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant.

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Re: How to filter messages without subject

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TN> Setting up a filter is easy, but how do I get the kludges filter to
TN> work on empty subject lines?
You don't need a kludges filter; a subject filter will do.

Set the signal string to "^$" (without the quotes)
Set Options|Regular Expressions [X]

Hope this helps.

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Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

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Re: Templates and spaces !!

[Stuart Hemming]

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V> How can i make this, so when opening the new mail template i can start
V> directly writing under this, instead off scrolling trought the template
V> text.
If I've understood you correctly you need to but the macro %CURSOR in
the relevant place in your template.

Eg

On %DATE, %FROMNAME wrote on the subject %SUBJ

%QUOTE
%CURSOR


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Re: Filter incoming mail from text file

[Stuart Hemming]

Alastair,

AS> Now, if _domains_ as well as individual addresses could be added (eg
AS> '*.com.tw'), we'd have a winner

Can't you just use a regexp to do that? Something like .*\.com\.tw
should do it (I think).

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Q: Moving folders

[Stuart Hemming]

I know I can move folders up and down but can I move them side to
side? For example, I have

-Web Stuff
 |- Mail list 1
 |- Mail List 2
- SQL Stuff
 |- Mail list 3

I want to add a new folder called, say "work stuff" as a home for the
above, so I would end up with,

-Work Stuff
 |-Web Stuff
   |- Mail list 1
   |- Mail List 2
 |- SQL Stuff
   |- Mail list 3

But I can't figure out how. Is it possible?
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Q: Collapsing threads

[Stuart Hemming]

The folder I'm using for messages from this list is set to display
threads by ref but each time I select the folder the threads are
collapsed. Is there a way to change this behavior?

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Re: Q: Collapsing threads

[Stuart Hemming]

Chris,

CH> Focus on one of the collapsed threads and then press Ctrl plus *

CH> The star is on the number pad

Thanks.

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More Moving Folders

[Stuart Hemming]

I've tried to send this as a reply a couple of times but it doesn't
seem to be getting on to the list.

PP> Have you tried moving one of the four/five standard folders
No, I was using folders I'd created

PP> Seems you have misunderstood my mail: not  alone, but PP>
_additionally_ to keeping  pressed. OK, but + doesn't
do it. As I said elsewhere, That does nothing. Actually, that's not
true, as I start to move the pointer shows the outline of a document,
but when I let go of the mouse button the highlight jumps back to the
original folder which remains unmoved.


PP> What's this thing you call 'local hierarchy'???
OK, by that I mean the structure under a top level folder. I've got

//Account
-Jobs
-Prog
|-Internet
 |-Webref
|-SQL Stuff
 |-Wire
 |-Central

The structure under "prog" what I mean by a "local" hierarchy. If I
try and manipulate this structure I can manipulate "Central" so that
it is a child of "Wire" or promote it to be a child of "Prog". I can
even promote it to be a child of "//Account". This is a good thing.
I've just discovered that I can promote *past* "//Account" to make it
a common folder, cool! I can do these things with any folder that is
INITIALLY CREATED as a child of another folder.

However, "Jobs" was created as a child of "//Account" and whilst I can
move it up and down the tree, I CANNOT promote it to common folder or
demote it to be the child of any other folder.

I suppose that, as a workaround, I could ensure that all new folders
are created as, say, a child of "inbox" and then moved to where they
need to be but it'd be nice if all (or all but the "system" folders)
acted in a consistent manner.

PP> If it doesn't you're doing something wrong or missing something
I could believe that! I've only been using the software for 7 days.




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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

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MW> I'm still looking forward to /BACKUP ALL...
Or /FILTER
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Re: Problem with Replying

[Stuart Hemming]

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C> I'm having a problem with replying to messages in The Bat!
How are you generating your reply?

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Re: Using IMAP

[Stuart Hemming]

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Sorry. Wrong list.

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Re: Help creating a filter

[Stuart Hemming]

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SMS> I guess my question is do I need to be careful where I place the
SMS> rule in the list of rules?
Well, if the only action you want to take is to play the sound file,
I'd put my rule near the top of the list.

SMS> Do I need to check the override box?
? I don't know what you mean by this. You /will/ need to check the
'Contibute Processing ...' box

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Using IMAP

[Stuart Hemming]

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I'm currently still on v1.63b11. I want to use the new version but I'm
unsure about what I'm going to end up with.

I get my office mail from an exchange server that doesn't have POP3
enabled so I get my mail using the old IMAP implementation and
everything works just as I want it to.

Now, if I move to v2b1 am I right in thinking that all the mail is
going to stay on the server? I /don't/ want this as I often work from
home and don't want to have to either dial in to reread a message or
to export it so I can read it later.

Our exchange server has a huge collection of folders only a handful of
which I'm interested in. Do I have to let TB! tell me about all the
crud as well as the bits of the folder hierarchy that I'm interested
in?

I use a lot of common folders to keep mail in and, ATM, incoming mail
is automagically sorted by my filters. I understand that auto
filtering of incoming messages currently doesn't work. Can I manually
filter? Will auto filtering work soon? (I guess only the developers
can answer that).

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Re: missing common folders

[Stuart Hemming]

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MDP> Not really - not unless you have folders that have gone missing. I
MDP> is capable of reinstating old folders that you intentionally removed
MDP> but left on disk.
I just did it and it 'found' 30 folders. After backing up I exited TB!
and restarted up. I had duplicates of my 2 main account folder turn
up. Never mind, thought I, I'll just zap 'em. And zap 'em I did. Only
when I went to my original account folder and clicked on inbox the
message count dropped to zero, same for sent mail and trash. A quick
restore fixed everything though.

Just as a point of interest, I get 1 lost folder found each time I do
ctrl-shift-alt-L now but the folder never turns up.

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Re: missing common folders

[Stuart Hemming]

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DK> Is it good to use occasionally?
I've just done it and it claims to have found 30 lost folders! I
didn't realize any were missing. I'm guessing that I have to logout
and back in for the changes to appear.

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Re: can I change RE: into something else?

[Stuart Hemming]

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,- [ Potential 'Missed Joke' error at line 3 ]
| Stuart, op Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 11:07:31 AM, schreef jij:
|
| SH> Absolutely nothing!
|
| good, that gives reason for hope...
`-

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Re: can I change RE: into something else?

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KE> Umm, now look, I don't want to sound peckish, (or how you say) but the
KE> correct tag should be:  
Yes, but you are assuming that I know that that was the name of the
guy who first recorded it. I'd only just listen to another FGTH track
and that name stuck.

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Re: can I change RE: into something else?

[Stuart Hemming]

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LT> ... what is it good for ...

Absolutely nothing!




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Re: can I change RE: into something else?

[Stuart Hemming]

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MDP> Apologies! This was supposed to go to TBOT.
Duck! Incoming Trout.

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Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL

[Stuart Hemming]

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M> Any idea why?? - I can't get one of his emails to see if the
M> headers are strange or anything.
All OK here. Here's the headers from one of his messages received
today...

,- [  ]
| Received: from ngfire.ngcomms.ecs.uk ([10.10.100.1]) by 
mercury.estatecomputers.co.uk with Microsoft
| SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
|  Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:31:36 +0100
| Received: from mail pickup service by ngfire.ngcomms.ecs.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
|  Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:31:47 +0100
| Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org ([127.0.0.1]) by ngfire.ngcomms.ecs.uk with 
Microsoft
| SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
|  Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:31:45 +0100
| Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=draenor.its-toasted.org)
| by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)
| id 19q2f9-0005PX-00; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:32:31 +0200
| Received: from netdork.net ([66.137.233.211] helo=vampire.netdork.net)
| by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)
| id 19q2et-0005M9-00
| for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:32:15 +0200
| Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
| by vampire.netdork.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEF6A816A
| for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:32:12 -0500 (CDT)
| Received: from vampire.netdork.net ([127.0.0.1])
| by localhost (vampire.netdork.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
| with ESMTP id 08362-07 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
| Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:32:10 -0500 (CDT)
| Received: from valcor.corp.local (c-67-166-207-248.client.comcast.net
| [67.166.207.248])
| by vampire.netdork.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FE5A8169
| for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:32:10 -0500 (CDT)
| Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:34:32 -0500
| From: Jonathan Angliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.0 Beta/3)
| Organization: Netdork Inc
| X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
| Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: Nick OHare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netdork.net
| Subject: Re: Sobig.f filtering
| X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2
| Precedence: list
| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| List-Id: 
| List-Unsubscribe: ,
| 
| List-Post: 
| List-Help: 
| List-Subscribe: ,
| 
| Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2003 03:31:45.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[E963E0B0:01C3685D]
`-
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Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread

[Stuart Hemming]

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A> the subject says it all I think... is there such a shortcut?
Well ctrl-shift-left/right and ctrl-shift+/- do it for me (so to
speak).

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Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread

[Stuart Hemming]

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DK> Very cool!  How could I have found that in the documentation?
You prolly couldn't; the docs are waaay behind the code.

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Re: Attachment Filters

[Stuart Hemming]

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RO> The logic behind not filtering attachments is sound, since it
RO> could mean very long filtering times on messages with large
RO> attachments. I wouldn't like it when some filters with
RO> location=everywhere would start checking multiple MB attachments.
Rather than location=everywhere including attachments it might be
better to have a separate, new, 'location' option;
location=attachments. Then you existing filters would work as now
without any additional overhead and if you wanted to include
attachment filenames in your filter criteria you just set up and
alternative using the new location option.

The logic behind not filtering attachments is /not/ necessarily sound;
it's just incompletely thought through.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... I used to have a handle on life, then it broke.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

iQA/AwUBP03Kf9ttnLhkydF1EQK6IQCfaLIIcvmLnXNgSnXgp4nRPPMiuGkAoN6/
fe40DUBQ63C/DGj1/0ye6Kmf
=k7Be
-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: verify please?

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


dcn> Sorry again, but please verify my sig?
Verified OK using key on keyserver.pgp.com
- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... The biggest problem with the younger generation these days is that I
don't belong to it any more.

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Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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=uGIa
-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Macro / Template annoyances

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

P> Is there a way that despite the apparent new placement requirements
P> that I can keep macros such as %ACCOUNT, %QUOTES, etc from adding
P> their own new lines?
Try
%ACCOUNT%-, %QUOTES%-, etc

The %- suppresses the newline.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

iQA/AwUBP1WqItttnLhkydF1EQLkkgCglGmH4SJYqsqYWep8RzJ6VdysUxcAnjFu
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=TDbk
-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Edited glyphs file for download if you wish...

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

AJ> My point was how to extract the original icons from the program in the
AJ> form of a .bmp file?
I think the point is that you don't; Ritlabs published the original on
their website.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... He who laughs last thinks slowest!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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=0K4M
-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: different reply quotes for different people

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M> My memory is terrible. Will you belive me if I tell you that after 34
M> years of marriage I always call my wife "my dear", "sweetheart",
M> "darling", etc., not because I still love her but because I don't
M> remember her name? ;-)
The usual reason for this behaviour is so that you never make the
mistake of calling your wife buy your lover's name or you lover by
your wife's!

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... It's all fun and games,'till someone loses an eye! Then it's a SPORT!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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=9Kai
-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: My new 20 lines filter

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M> What we could perhaps try is to invent a Relevant Text Delimiter,
Actually, that would work; all you would need to do is search for the
RTD (Relevant Text Delimiter) /anywhere/ in message and send
everything else to the trash. Why? 'cos only those capable of /not/
generating relevant text under any circumstances would fail to put a
RTD in in the first place. 8-)

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

iQA/AwUBP1ieT9ttnLhkydF1EQJn9gCcDxSIqOSHWSLoTuBnVbBJbMVjp1sAn0jt
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=OZQG
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Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Registration woes

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

The following is from a TB! user who isn't on the mail list. Any help
you can give me to pass on to him would be appreciated.

,- [  ]
| I just registered my copy and got the registration email message.
| Unfortunately it didn't work, saying the password was invalid (it
| wasn't).  I have emailed the sender of the message but have had no
| reply after three  days. I'm frightened to close down the Bat in case
| I can't restart it. Is  there someone else I can contact to get it
| fixed?
|
| The email said the code was for v2 but I'm using 1.62r. Could that be it?
`-
- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... Experience: What you get when you don't get what you want.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Registration woes II

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

This is from /another TB! user who, again, isn't on this list.

,- [  ]
| I have got v2 installed . Enter the key supplied and the checksum but
| it still wants a password. I enter the  password I used for v1 - the
| only password I know of - and get an error  saying the password
| doesn't match the key.
`-

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... Once, in the Congo, I lost my corkscrew, and was forced to live on
nothing but food and water for days.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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=7okJ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Registration woes

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

MM> new code is for V2.x only and doesn't work in 1.x.
One wonders how he gets a code for v1 which is what he's using and
wishes to continue to use.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... Suicide is the most sincere form of self-criticism.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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faCmSKsn7pQAK5Hy+DpeXr6x
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-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Registration woes

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

The various arguments about why my colleague should not want to
upgrade to v2 are moot; can anyone tell me how he gets a proper
registration for v1?

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... The darkest hour is just before dawn. So if you're going to steal your
neighbour's milk, that's the time to do it.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Reply template?

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

TF> Or do you just use %Clipboard (without parameter) and that will paste
TF> from, instead of copy to, the clipboard?
Yes. I have expressions like %x=%clipboard in some of the macro's I
have here.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Recursive wrapping

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I've just got hold of Januk Aggarwal's recursive wrap QT from the
archive site but it doesn't quite do what I was expecting/hoping for.

If I have 2 long lines ...

 abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef ...

 ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk ...

I was expecting I'd get something like

 abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef
 abcdef abcdef abcdef

 ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk
 ghijk ghijk ghijk

But what I got was 

 abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef
 abcdef abcdef abcdef ghijk
 ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk
 ghijk ghijk

Can anyone suggest an change/alternative that'll do what I'm
expecting?

TIA
- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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-END PGP SIGNATURE-









Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

GnuPG

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Is there a windows front end for GnuPG?

I'm currently using PGP Corp's PGPv8 but wondered if I'd be better of
using GnuPG. One of the things I do do though is use the PGP front end
to sign/encrypt things other than mail and don't really want to have
to battle with the cmd line for each task.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

iQA/AwUBP46hLdttnLhkydF1EQI5YACdEjjxjLW1au0pXPqwRhMYyL6UhSQAnjcX
mffMlHUYKy1+ZFaApg/vxs6w
=ODrL
-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: GnuPG

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

LG> http://www.jumaros.de/rsoft/gpgshell.html
TFTI

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... The biggest problem with the younger generation these days is that I
don't belong to it any more.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

iQA/AwUBP46xpNttnLhkydF1EQLtPwCbBYdhJwxHBo6/v4EE0ScHebD+MMAAn0cY
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=LO7v
-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Odd reply problem

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

SC>  Reply quote - I really can #8217;t find what you are referring to.
The original message would have been an HTML message. the "#8217;" is
the entity code for "'". This is what's in the HTML code as it's not a
legal character in HTML and TB! has simply put in the source text of
the message in your reply rather than the rendered text. This is a
long standing bug with the message handling system in TB!

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... There are 3 kinds of people in this world...those who want things to
happen, those that make things happen, and those who just wonder what
the hell happened!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

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fPZ7RAPH645QdgLuRHGk/gYC
=+GSg
-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Odd reply problem

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Dammedifiknow.

You could check bugtrack. Or maybe someone else here knows.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
... I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0

iQA/AwUBP7H/UtttnLhkydF1EQKBzACfbvRp9LOhazpZ1CWBxfucf/zUCs0AoMy7
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Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: -- in Sig Question

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

C> Can someone tell me if it is possible to make The Bat! not
C> ignore text after the "--" sig delimiter?
The only way I can see to do that is to highlight the message or part
that you want to quote, copy it and then 'Paste as Quotation'

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

It's all fun and games 'til someone loses an eye! Then it's a SPORT!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBP/06gtttnLhkydF1EQJ96QCdFWOciIFKWWFgLF2ZJ1GZgfrUDDUAoPb/
5lv53RI7sMdMF8WKlphGmPrj
=rUXr
-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Creating an Out of Office Auto reply

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


MDP> It's a good scheme. I just use an AB group scheme myself.
Do you have to manually clear out the AB group when you switch the
filter off or is there a way of doing that automagically?

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Suicide is the most sincere form of self-criticism.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBP/2K4NttnLhkydF1EQKKhwCg13P8vPp9+jsI6ksyrs+/BwCOTfUAoL8z
2sqcyHJS4DlpUlsK+VY9e9yj
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-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: help .. login to beta site

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

PM> |   To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
PM> |   http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
I know of any number of people who have had exactly the same problem.
Perhaps the above message should /also/ be in a prominent place on
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with
atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with
explosions.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBP/5+ntttnLhkydF1EQJTZgCfZmCerg16843cVQlmPqXW2oX+fX4An31o
f0+5EKTgYKCnd0bwJzdXlr9U
=yTxM
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Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Minor issue using PGP

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

RW> Confirmed here.
Logged as #0002307

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they
have to say something. - Plato

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBP/6XKNttnLhkydF1EQIlPACeNfxV4LYCfYfJNOKr4iSLrowzgp4AoOuk
jwmgS0U1yjLEZByIUNxANFsK
=Ezg+
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Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Bug in Key Mapping display

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

sec> When I look at them in the Keymapping display they show as
sec> Alt+End and Alt+Down respectively although the keystrokes I've
sec> entered are the once it seems to use.
I was wrong, unfortunately, whilst it /does/ mark as junk when I press
Alt+Num 1 it *also* makrs as junk when I Alt+Down, which is a bad
thing!

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Error: This will end your Windows session. Do you want to play another
game?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBP/6adtttnLhkydF1EQKMlQCePnZtyEpC0PTkaoFCtYHXQlMwTu4AoJ/l
rfJO6AWHPDEnuqDSE6knX8dk
=Sv64
-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Creating an Out of Office Auto reply

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Marck,

Can I ask, do you have this list in your exempt group? What address to
you use and how do you set it up?

The messages I get, for example the one I'm replying to here, has your
address as the From: address, not the list's. How do you set up to not
send a message to the list one for each list member that posts whilst
you've got OOO switched on? Do you simply process you List mail before
your OOO filter kicks in?

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBP/6cSNttnLhkydF1EQIPWwCgp4HeogkEpoumIWvcHQwj0Ja20JgAn1so
vHlk+/S2CqQe94QJSUwkp4Mv
=68O3
-END PGP SIGNATURE-










Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Creating an Out of Office Auto reply

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

S>> 2. I will create a filter that puts each incoming message in to a
S>> particular colour group the show it needs OOO processing.

S>> 3. For each 'named' AB group, if the sender's name is found then
S>> I will change the message's colour group to say that it has been
S>> processed.

S>> 4. If I do not find the sender's address then an OOO message will
S>> be sent and the colour group changed.

It appears that this scheme won't work for a simple reason; if you
change a message's colour group in a filter that change isn't
recognised by any other filters until the message is saved.



- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

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=0j3J
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Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Creating an Out of Office Auto reply

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

What I've done is create the OOO filter and put it after the filters
that file away my list mail.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

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=kkRS
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Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

>>> MyGate 2.6
Is there anyone out there willing to engage in a short email
discussion to help me get this set up?

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Error: Close your eyes and press escape three times.

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

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AP> Bug with authorization found.
Well that answers one of my problems.

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

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When I ask it to go and get my messages it reports

!15/01/2004, 15:44:52: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
- -ERR Command not recoginezed.

in the accounts log file.

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If you think nobody cares whether you're alive or dead, try missing a
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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

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I want to subscribe to news on more than one server. Am I right in
thinking I need to set up a TB! account for each one (server that is,
not group)?

I've set up MyGate but I don't seem to be able to receive anything. My
set up is as follows:

POP3>NNTP
Local Port:1701
Server: msnews.microsoft.com:119

SMPT>NNTP
Local Port:1702
Server: msnews.microsoft.com:119

TB! Account Transport
POP:
 Server:localhost
 Port:1701
 Connection:Regular
 User/password are filled in

SMTP:
 Server:localhost
 Port:1702
 Connection:Regular

If I go into MyGate and open up the POP3>NNTP entry and click on
'Available Groups / update List' I get a list of newsgroups which
suggest that MyGate is talking to the server.

I've subscribed to 2 newsgroups; one with a 'normal' subscription and
one with N=10. When I click on Get New Mail on the relevant account in
TB! I get the following:

,- [  ]
| 16/01/2004, 09:48:45: FETCH - receiving mail messages !16/01/2004,
| 09:48:46: FETCH - Could not connect to the server
`-

I'm more than prepared to concede that I'm doing something wrong, I
just don't know what. Can anyone help? Please?

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Stuart

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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

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M> Hello Stuart,

M> 
>> I'm more than prepared to concede that I'm doing something wrong, I
>> just don't know what. Can anyone help? Please?

M> At first sight everything seems to be OK. Can you enable session logging
M> to try to get more details for a couple of sessions and post it here?
M> MyGate/Control/Program Settings.

,- [  ]
| Log starts here at 16/01/2004 12:45:24
| LOCAL> +OK MyGate 2.6.0.171 ready.
| LOCAL> USER shemming
| LOCAL> +OK Accepted.
| LOCAL> PASS ***
| LOCAL> -ERR Command not recoginezed.
| Log ends here at 16/01/2004 12:45:25
`-


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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Error: WinErr 16547 : LPT1 not found. Use backup. (PENCIL & PAPER.SYS)

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


PF> Could someone send me this version, since the fixed version is not up
PF> yet?
Yes it is; I downloaded it this morning. It's build 171

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Stuart

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As I said before, I never repeat myself.

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

AP> You might not believe me, but I also have no idea yet 8(
Is there anything else I can try/do to help identify the problem? Is
there anything else you need to know?

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
(Charlie Brown)

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

AP> I think, I'll make one more release soon. With better logging. And
AP> fixed bug about "to" names. We'll see it then.
I wait with baited breath... 8-)

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Error: Press Ctrl-Alt-Del now for IQ test.

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I /seem/ to have it working. Kind of. I can't get it to work with
msnews.microsoft.com but I have got it working with another,
authenticated server.

I have found that if I change my subcription I start getting errors
reported unless I exit myGate and restart it; just stopping and
starting the gate isn't enough.

So far I've only tried reading from the gate. Next stop posting ...

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

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Re: MyGate 2.6

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

PM> You'll find it is as easy as receiving. :)
It seems to work. At least a post to alt.test did.

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

There are 2 rules for success: 1. Don't tell everything you know.

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Re: I kinda like my Bat :)

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


M> There are different ways to achieve that and much more in TB. If you take
M> a look at http://www.rancho-k.com/Follow_Up.png it may give you an idea
M> of what I do with filters, flags, colour groups and folder deletion
M> options.
I don't suppose you'd consider knocking up a little 'how to' document
would you?

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Stuart

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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.

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Re: Bayesit

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

SC> but I think it may be since Beta 40.
If it /is/ TB! version related then it's broken in b45 too.

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Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

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Re: Bayesit

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

SC> I have been using Bayesit for some time now and it had been working
SC> just fine. In the last little while it has quit working altogether. I
SC> don't know if it is just here, but I think it may be since Beta 40.
I've upgraded to b45, let's see if that makes any difference.

SC> As far as training goes, it doesn't take that many when it is working
SC> correctly.
Is there any logging or something that can be switched on to see if
it's doing /anything/?

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Aim towards the Enemy.  -Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher

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Re: Searching the archives

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

MDP> Or you can fire up TB and use the mid URLs.
But I don't have the messages (I've already tried that).

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

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Re: Bayesit

[Stuart Hemming]

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Hash: SHA1


M3> I also had to crank the
M3> threshold *way* down to get reasonable results.
How do I do that?

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Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Once, in the Congo, I lost my corkscrew, and was forced to live on
nothing but food and water for days.

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Re: Bayesit

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M3> Look in Options, Preferences.  Open the Anti-spam item and near the
M3> bottom are the two thresholds.  I don't auto delete anything. I have
M3> the transfer to junk at 10 at the moment.  Works great for me.
Found it and changed it. Thanks for that. Now let's see if Bayesit
catches anything.

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Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

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Re: Bayesit

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M3>> Look in Options, Preferences.  Open the Anti-spam item and near the
M3>> bottom are the two thresholds.  I don't auto delete anything. I have
M3>> the transfer to junk at 10 at the moment.  Works great for me.
SH> Found it and changed it. Thanks for that. Now let's see if Bayesit
SH> catches anything.
Finally!, it caught the fist message that came in after changing the
settings!

Thanks for the help.

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Tracers work both ways.  - U.S. Army Ordnance

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Re: Bayesit

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M3> Glad you got it working.  I know how cool I thought it was once I had
M3> it tweeked just right and all that spam started hitting the junk
M3> folders automatically
What'd be /really/ cool is if the next version tracked down the
spammers and melted the b*st*rds machines to slag. Maybe in v2.

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

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Re: Moving a thread?

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


j> How does one move an entire thread to another folder? Everything I try with
j> dragging just moves the top-most message.
Highlight the root message, press Ctrl+Shift+V, select the
destination, /et voila/.

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

When two egotists meet, it's an I for an I.

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Re: Moving a thread?

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

SM> I just expand the thread and highlight all the messages then drag and
SM> drop that lot. Don't know if it's the most efficient way of doing this
SM> but it works.
Indeed it does, but the Ctrl+Shift+V method has the advantage of not
requiring you to more you hands from the keyboard...

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Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

If it can't be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion.
- -  L. Long

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Re: Bayesit: Sound on sucessful catch of Junk

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Thanks for that.

I think that it it the fact that is the error sound that bothers me.

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Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

There are 3 kinds of people in this world...those who want things to
happen, those that make things happen, and those who just wonder what
the hell happened!

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Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

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Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Checking on BayesIt

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

SC> Yes. There is a file called bayesit.log in your documents and settings
SC> folder, name, application data, bayesit (in Windows 2000). It has info
SC> like the following:
Found it. TVM.

Hmmm.

It's very black and white; the only scores are 0, 99 and 100.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/45 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody.

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Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBQBppudttnLhkydF1EQLrQQCgkaM2ezYkGP1Zr7lPPIE7cw1Xxa8AoK1b
HrPqIIVCRs88eS5n/IRTOc4e
=kBjQ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




















Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Checking on BayesIt

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M3> Sort of.  The number you might want to look at is the one just above
M3> 'Value for The Bat!:' that is labeled 'Spam-grade:'  That is the one
M3> that has the actual calculation based on the key words shown below.
The vast majority are 1.16271e-030 with . and 1 featuring
occasionally.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/51 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

My toaster works on AC and DC, just not on bread.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBQB4Vo9ttnLhkydF1EQIenwCfWfXpOfcWYb3Mr29Fu664IS4TNEMAnRAJ
B6UlOhuU3dmozN3rkJMq8MPI
=7pNs
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




















Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Attaching files to The Bat - filename not fully shown?

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


CP> I  noticed  that when I attach files to send with The Bat, if the file
CP> has  a  double extension e.g. filename.xls.asc the file to attach as I
CP> see  it  in  the  "Add  a  File  (MIME/Base64)"  window  is  shown  as
CP> filename.xls.
I've just tried it with a file called struff.doc.bak and it looked OK
in the 'add a file window' here.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you
least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of
your unit.  - Army's magazine of preventive maintenance.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBQB/IB9ttnLhkydF1EQIloQCgzsY2cFZAYieAlyMwzlqzAOcsyYIAoP0e
GPC0LHHkYODCk8AzYRbH3Mza
=w6og
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




















Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re:

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M> Yes, you are.
Bugger! Another plan bites the big one.

TVM.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

One seventh of your life is spent on Monday.

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Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBQCJSItttnLhkydF1EQLA8gCgzVKh6ZT2tA6Ho7Jimcj6hIVyeQQAn2DG
z6pEocK2CqrxzOavJHmKW+5t
=l1FD
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




















Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Common Folders

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

M> Yes, just Alt+Click on it and drag it to the desired account.
Cool. Thanks Miguel.

- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

If the shoe fits, buy it - Imelda Marcos

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP SDK 3.0
Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

iQA/AwUBQCN7C9ttnLhkydF1EQIsQgCdEs5bCRJZnUR/BimWdznnXlSm9jMAn36K
IEr+nBl/XMxyJsAPm1zDl1EL
=sRcf
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




















Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: A greater appreciation for TB!

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

ST> Basically, it's like the Virtual Folder provided by the MailTicker,
ST> but for more sophisticated filtering conditions (i.e. not only unread
ST> messages, but with filtering by names, other flags, etc.) and with
ST> possibility to keep them as usual folders in the tree...
Cool.


- --
Stuart

Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Do radioactive cats have 18 half-lives?

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Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com";

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h2+sNbfKMDACoz72qsBpIGFn
=2KoT
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




















Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Backup has, restore won't!

[Stuart Hemming]

I backed up my installation before doing a reinstall.

I've tried to restore from it and it has...

 1. created the accounts
 2. brought in the contents of the 5 'standard' folders
 3. restored the address book
 4. restored all the filters

It /hasn't/...
 1. created any other folders in the accounts
 2. restored any of the common folders

Questions:
 1. is there any way of getting at all of my messages?
 2. why did this happen?
 3. can I rely on backup?

The backup file is a little over 9Mb big. If anyone can work on it I'd
love to hear from you.

-- 
Stuart



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Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
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Macro to switch macros...

[Stuart Hemming]

I have an office account which collects mail from the exchange server
in the office, and a home account which collects POP3 mail from my
ISP.

When I'm working from home, I send all mail out via my ISP. However, I
have some templates that have the %REPLYTO macro set to my office
account but when I'm working from home I want that to change to that
address.

Is this possible?

-- 
Stuart



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TBBETA

[Stuart Hemming]

I'm using 1.63 beta and wanted to ask a couple of questions so thought
to join the TBBETA list. I couldn't find joining instructions on the
web page so took a flyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it
bounced.

Can anyone tell me the necessary magic spell to get on the list?

TIA

-- 
Stuart



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Re: TBBETA

[Stuart Hemming]

Thanks Marck and Mark

-- 
Stuart
Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 



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Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
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Re: Macro to switch macros...

[Stuart Hemming]

TF> Do you check both accounts at both locations?
No. My company's exchange server cannot be reached from outside.
Similarly, I can't access my home account's pop3 server from the
office.

TF> I assume you work on a laptop which you carry back and
TF> forth
Indeed.

TF> However, if you sent FROM your home account, I would assume that the
TF> reply-to is set to your home account, regardless of where you are. And
TF> the same should be true for your office account, respectively. I don't
TF> quite understand hwat you need - especially since, if you write to
TF> someone from home, he might only be replying by the time you are
TF> already in the office the next morning. What am I missing?
The problem comes in that I have templates associated with an address
book group and I want the behaviour to change based on the account I'm
sending from.

-- 
Stuart
Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 



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Re: Macro to switch macros...

[Stuart Hemming]

Thomas,

TF> Strange. It worked at my last company.
It's just the way thay have things locked down here.

TF> IF:%Account="work":%ReplyTo="workaccount":%ReplyTo="homeaccount"
I assumed that there was supposed to be a leading '%'

I put in the name of my work account in to the macro and created a new
message from my /work/ account. The message with the value of ReplyTo
set to 'homeaccount' and the message body contained the line ReplyTo="workaccount":

I got exactly the same result when creating a message from my home
account.

-- 
Stuart
Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 



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Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
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Re: Macro to switch macros...

[Stuart Hemming]

MDP> %IF:'%Account'='work':'%ReplyTo="workaccount"':'%ReplyTo="homeaccount"'
I'm getting a slightly better result than with Thomas' suggestion in
that the value of 'Reply-To' is changing but there's not the spurious
text in body.

Unfortunately it always seems to fail the test. I've got the
comparison value case perfect but it never seems to match.



Interestingly, I made my template look like this...

Account=%Account

ACCOUNT=%ACCOUNT

END


And the results, from both accounts were:


Account=

ACCOUNT=

END

I guess that explains why the test fails, but can you spot and answer
the obvious question?

-- 
Stuart



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Filters not firing

[Stuart Hemming]

I've got a 'read messages' filter that, for messages in a particular
colour group, moves a message to a different folder. It works a treat,
except, if I mark as read an entire thread. The whole thread was in
the colour group but stayed put when marked using ctrl-shift-m. I had
to mark them all unread and then mark the read individually to get
them to move.

Is this right?

-- 
Stuart
Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 
... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ...



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Keyboard Shortcuts

[Stuart Hemming]

Can anyone tell me how to reset the keyboard shortcuts to the 'factory
defaults' please?

-- 
Stuart
Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 
... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ...



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