Version 1.44 -- Deleting a message and wipe
I press the delete key thinking the cursor was on a message -- when it was in fact on a folder. A dialog box pop up with 2 choices -- moving to Trash and "wipe". I click on "wipe" -- thinking that it "wipes" the disk space occupied by the message to be deleted. Instead, the folder that contains that message disappears. That folder (directory) is still on my hard drive, with one file -- messages.msb So I created a new folder with the same name. I closed and re-open The Bat! Now, that directory on my hard drive has 3 files -- messages.msb (316K), messages.tbb (3K) and messages.tbi (16K). But the messages are not appearing in the newly re-created folder in The Bat! How can I get those messages back? And what does "wipe" do? I can't any thing on "wipe" in the index in the on-line help. TIA JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Order of folders in an account; and order of accounts inside TheBat -- V1.44
The default order of the folders/accounts is the time of creation -- i.e. the new folder/account appear at the end. I want the folder/account in a specific order. I was unsuccessful in trying to drag the folders around. Is there a way to do that without re-creating all accounts/folders (after backing up)? Thanks in advance. JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Order of messages in message header pane -- v1.44
Is there a way to get the message headers to be in decending date order by thread AND within the thread, the messages by ascending date order? e.g. I have 3 threads -- AA (7/9/2000) BB (7/7/2000) and CC (7/1/2000). Within each thread, there are messages dated form 7/1/2000 to 7/9/2000. Can I get the thread to display in the order of AA, BB and CC. And within each thread, the messages will appear in the order of 7/1, 7/2, ... 7/9 ??? Best regards, JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
V1.44 -- paging up/down in message body
When my cursor is on the message header, I can read the message and pressing the space bar will "page down" the message body. How can I move the message body back a page (page up) without moving the cursor? [I am aware of the Alt+up and down cursor combination; but that only moves a line at a time and is more cumbersome.] [In many other email clients, PgUp and PgDn key will move the message screen even though the cursor is on the message header pane.] Best regards, JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP
I need to learn to use PGP with email. Does anyone know a mailing list on PGP? Best regards, JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Stupid Question #348
Friday, August 04, 2000, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, August 04, 2000 at 01:13:53 GMT +0100 (which was 5:13 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Smells like a bug to me. I'm very often snipping quotes, and never had anything that bad. This is with 1.46 B2 as well - what's your version? This was a bug introduced in v1.44. Thomas Fernandez submitted the bug report on Sat, 27 May 2000 02:52:31. I quote MaXxX's reply for reproducing the bug: I am using 1.44; and I don't have that problem. The scroll bar is there after deletion. It could be the wheelmouse. P.S. In case you don't already know, Ctrl+Home will get you to the top of the message screen. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB vs. PMMail
*** To Reply, please delete DDD from address *** Wednesday, August 09, 2000, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a single filter for about 30 of my friends and a few others for others who send messages often enough to deserve a folder each. I filter on sender name. All work perfectly. shrug KP Cool, I'd love to simplify my huge filter list like this. How does such KP a filter look in TB? For the filter rule, create your source and destination folders, insert your first search string under the 'filter strings' dialog. For the other strings you need to check for, go to the Alternative's tab and using the 'Add Set' key, you may enter as many alternative filter strings as you like. The above procedure will filter all 30 friends to the same destination folder, not 30 different destination folders? If that is not correct, where do I specify 30 different destination folders? Best regards, JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Sunday, September 17, 2000, Mark R Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if I do so, I'll end up with numerous messages duplicated because I may have downloaded them at home (using 'leave-on-server') before finally collecting them and offloading them at work later. I don't want to just 'overwrite' the home account because I also integrate email from some other accounts that I don't check from work and I don;t want to lose those messages obviously. Therefore, what would be ideal is if I could integrate the messages from both setups into one tree (*easy*) and then perform a 'search for duplicate emails' so that I could then delete all my duplicates leaving me with a nice ordely, historically complete archive at home. How do you integrate the messages *without* overwriting ? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! 1.46 announcement
Wednesday, September 20, 2000, Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [*] Return-Path header is no longer saved if it was not set explicitly. MH What does that exactly mean? The Return-Path header is supposed to be added by an MTA (Mail Transport Agent) server as a message travels to it's destination. Because TB supports operation as a mailing list (and *no*, we do not run TBUDL or TBBETA on a copy of TB) TB is capable of creating this header. v1.46 has made sure that the header is only sent out when it is explicitly set by the user. If it is not set then it is not sent (quite right too!). What is the significance of the Return-Path? If it is not set to be sent, does it affect the reply to the message? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP encrypt entire test to specific addressees
Under PGP's options, I can set it to "encrypt new messages by default". But I only want to encrypt messages to certain addressees. Is there a way to do this by template, macros or otherwise? Thanks in advance. JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :
Sunday, September 17, 2000, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 03:07:33 GMT +0100 (which was 7:07 PM where I live) witnesses say Mark R Harding typed: I don;t want to risk a test run in case it does something unexpected. You might be wise to make a backup of your mail folders first. (Point Windows Explorer to your TB Mail folder and make a copy of it somewhere.) Usually you can find this folder in: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail Unless you're like me and put your folders elsewhere. If I already have set up the Mail folder under ...\The Bat!\Mail, can I change it to some place else? if yes, how? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP encrypt entire test to specific addressees
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 22, 2000, Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi net5zero, On 22 September 2000 at 00:19:09 GMT -0400 (which was 05:19 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "PGP encrypt entire test to specific addressees": nnn Under PGP's options, I can set it to "encrypt new messages by default". nnn But I only want to encrypt messages to certain addressees. Is there a nnn way to do this by template, macros or otherwise? Add the %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE or %SIGNCOMPLETE macro to your template. With the "encrypt new messages by default" checked OR unchecked, the message gets encrypted when completed. I have 2 keys -- for different email address. In the past, I recall that *sometimes* a dialogbox will pop up and let me select the keys that I want to encrypt to. So, how can I get that dialog box to ALWAYS pop up before mail is encrypted -- so that I can choose which (of my) key I want to encrypt to? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOc7lyhnO7aCC6ZbmEQKdAgCghmhLCWegSOYl3NXt/p1cojwrYkMAoJqX Wo76H6SjUMLWRzlTqmuy0Uh9 =YcFP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filtering -- OR condition
I have a filter with 2 conditions -- OR, not AND. When I put one condition on the Alternatives tab, it doesn't work. When I put it on the Rule tab with "|", it works. There is no typo because I use copy and paste. Any ideas as to why? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering -- OR condition
Sunday, October 08, 2000, Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, October 08, 2000, 2:35:51 PM, Januk wrote: I have a filter with 2 conditions -- OR, not AND. When I put one condition on the Alternatives tab, it doesn't work. When I put it on the Rule tab with "|", it works. There is no typo because I use copy and paste. net5zero, you might want to be more specific for others to be able to help you. How exactly did you set up your filter, preferably in the format commonly used here (which is the same as it appears in the Sorting Office): String Location Presence xxx yyy Yes/No Rhythm Break Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the string. Location: sender. Presence: yes. This works. However, when I put the second part of the string on the alternative tab, Sender, Yes; it doesn't work. Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Sending mail
I have one account that when I compose a new message and click on the send icon, it gets put in the Outbox instead. [I have checked the setting; and it is set for immediate delivery.] Then when I go to the Outbox and click on the "Send queue mail" icon, it tells me it has nothing to send. [I can see the message listed; and the content is displayed the the preview window!!] Anyone has any idea what the problem might be? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Coloring your own messages
Sunday, October 22, 2000, Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . I mainly lurk (scan) myself but you may want to do something similar to what I did if you want the heading info, threading and individual access the regular sub provides: TBUDL messages get filtered into the TBUDL folder (which is then subdivided by month), and all my own messages are automatically filtered to yellow. That way, I find subscribing to the digest unnecessary, and browse the TBUDL folder when time permits. To code your own messages in TBUDL yellow -- how to do that? Do you have to create a separate filter (from that of TBUDL)? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter not working
Sunday, November 26, 2000, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:57:12 -0500 GMT (26/11/2000, 07:57 +0800 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nnn I have a READ filter: Source folder - TheBat. Move to TheBat\Archive. nnn Strings - TBUDL. Presence - Yes. Rule is "manual only". Location was nnn originally set to Sender, it didn't work; so I changed it to Kludge. nnn Still doesn't work. nnn When I click on Folder, Refilter, it goes through filtering, but no Read nnn messages were moved. Does this little window that pops up when you manually filter show Number of Messages fitlered: more than zero? Yes, 4. Moved, 0. This means you have hits, and my usual mistake is that the I forget to set the destination folder so I filter the messages back into the origin folder. The destination folder is set to \TheBat\Archive. If you don't have hits, something is wrong with your filtering string. Certainly the string TBUDL is present in every message header (kludge) on this list. I think you should have hits, as in: all message should be hit by that filter. I am not sure this is what you want, though. Yes, I want all read messages moved to Archive folder when I do a manual filter. The other thing I would suggest is to check both "read" as well as "replied". I don't know whether whether "read" also catches "replied" or not; just an idea. Those were checked by default when I do the manual filter. Regards, JM Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter not working
Monday, November 27, 2000, Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2000, 10:56:00 PM, net5zero wrote:
Does this little window that pops up when you manually filter
show Number of Messages fitlered: more than zero?
Yes, 4. Moved, 0.
4 is the first number of the small status window, right? It's the
number of messages processed, not filtered.
You are right.
Let's start from the obvious first: Have you checked the "Active"
option right above the "Manual only" option? (You should.)
When I first created the filter, Active was checked by default. Then I
found the read message was moved immediately after reading -- which I
don't want. So I uncheck Active and checked "Manual only"
I have now checked both Active and Manual Only. But I have to see if
the READ messages goes to Archive folder without doing a manual
re-filter which is something I don't want to happen.
I also remember you use the menu command ("Folder | Re-filter") to
re-filter. When you do that, is the TBUDL folder in focus
(selected)?
I believe my cursor is in the message header pane of the TBUDL folder.
Does that count?
Thanks in advance
JM
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Re[2]: Shortcut Key for launching The Bat!
Monday, November 27, 2000, Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, November 25, 2000, 4:07:00 PM, net5zero wrote: I have a Windows' Shortcut for The Bat! on my desktop. In the properties for that Shortcut, the shortcut TAB, I set the "shortcut key" to Ctrl+Shft+B. However, when I press Ctrl+Shft+B to launch The Bat!, nothing happens. Just tried, and it worked. It would seem that if I had assigned Ctrl+Shft+B to some other application previously, it would do something instead of nothing. This shouldn't be allowed. My Windows doesn't allow me to reassign a shortcut key combination to another application before cancelling the first one. We're using different Windows, though. My Windows doesn't allow it either. When I tried (just now) to assigned Ctrl+Shft+W to TheBat, it changed to none and launched the other application that was previously assigned Ctrl+Shft+W. So, the question remains as to why the Ctrl+Shft+B doesn't work for launching TheBat in my case? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Receiving mail and Printing
My printer is not working. And every time I retrieve mail, I get an error message because of "error writing to LPT1" When I look in the printer folder, it list many "bat message" as print jobs. Does the incoming mail go through the printer -- because when my printer was working, no messages were ever printed out? Or do I somehow by accident has set an option causing this to happen? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Receiving mail and Printing
Tuesday, December 26, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My printer is not working. And every time I retrieve mail, I get an error message because of "error writing to LPT1" When I look in the printer folder, it list many "bat message" as print jobs. My printer is working now, so I no longer get the error message. However, retrieving mail is still impacting on the printer. Just now, when I pick up my mail, I have 30 messages being downloaded to my computer. I was looking at my taskbar. Shortly after the mail retrieval started, the printer icon appears on the task bar. When I opened the printer dialogbox, it shows several messages waiting in que to be printed; and the light on my printer flashes. Not all 30 messages showed up in the printer dialogbox, only some. And the funny thing is that none of the messages were actually printed. I am just curious as to why this is happening. [It would that this is caused by TheBat!] And does this happen to any of you out there? Does the incoming mail go through the printer -- because when my printer was working, no messages were ever printed out? Or do I somehow by accident has set an option causing this to happen? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Receiving mail and Printing
Thursday, December 28, 2000, Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi net5zero, In Wednesday, December 27, 2000 23:39:04 -0500 you wrote the following in regards to "Receiving mail and Printing": net5zero Shortly after the mail net5zero retrieval started, the printer icon appears on the task bar. When I net5zero opened the printer dialogbox, it shows several messages waiting in que net5zero to be printed; In filters, under the action tab, there is an option to "print this msg". maybe this option has been accidentally set for a certain filter. I found it in the filter for this mailing list. Now I am curious as to why none of the messages were actually printed -- the printer was working just before I turn the option to "print this msg" off. Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
Correction. Please send a copy of your suggestion to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had 1.44 and installed 1.49 over 1.44. I noticed the icons' color are all lighter shade -- "Get New Mail" is light sea blue, "Send Queue Mail" is light green, etc. Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. I thought it was very unusual because this list is usually busy. There is no error message. In fact the Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received" Then I try to send a test message. The dialog box appears, and the graphic bar went from 0 to 100%; then the dialogbox disappears. The "sent" message appears in the Sent folder; but I didn't get it in my other account. No error message. So I uninstalled TheBat; and reinstalled it. No change. Same problems. Any suggestions? I am using Netscape to send this email. Since I can't use TheBat until I fix this problem, I would appreciate if you would ** send me a COPY at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** It is the ReplyTo address; but I don't know whether that address will survive in a mailing list. Thanks in advance JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
Thomas wrote: Hi net5zero, On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:49:35 -0500GMT (16/01/2001, 16:49 +0800GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nnn Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then nnn disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last nnn retrieval. I thought it was very unusual because this list is usually nnn busy. There is no error message. In fact the Log Panel displayed nnn "connection finished - 0 message received" Somebody reported on the German list recently that TB shows no error message when the passowrd is wrong. Please double-check whether login-name and password are ocrrect for mail retrieval. I forgot to mention that it never asked me for the password -- even though it was set to ask every time it retrieves mail. JM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
I have try to uninstall and re-installed 1.49 and 1.48f. Neither of them works. When I re-install 1.44, it works fine. Am I the only one that has this problem? Tuesday, January 16, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had 1.44 and installed 1.49 over 1.44. I noticed the icons' color are all lighter shade -- "Get New Mail" is light sea blue, "Send Queue Mail" is light green, etc. Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. I thought it was very unusual because this list is usually busy. There is no error message. In fact the Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received" Then I try to send a test message. The dialog box appears, and the graphic bar went from 0 to 100%; then the dialogbox disappears. The "sent" message appears in the Sent folder; but I didn't get it in my other account. No error message. So I uninstalled TheBat; and reinstalled it. No change. Same problems. Any suggestions? I am using Netscape to send this email. Since I can't use TheBat until I fix this problem, I would appreciate if you would ** send me a COPY at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** It is the ReplyTo address; but I don't know whether that address will survive in a mailing list. Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
Tuesday, January 16, 2001, Mike Harlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have try to uninstall and re-installed 1.49 and 1.48f. Neither of them works. When I re-install 1.44, it works fine. Just in case... if you are using Zone Alarm, it will not allow the new Bat executable to connect to the internet until you give it permission. I recall a while ago that someone from here had set ZA to not prompt him for such permission, so all that he would see is the failure to connect. I am not using ZoneAlarm. The only thing I did is "register" the copy. I am using Win95a, if it makes any difference. There has to be some reason why the 1.49 and 1.48f does not work on my PC. When I reinstalled 1.44, the colors of the icons go back to the darker colors. Would that be a clue to the problem? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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This is my 2nd try. Still can't install 1.49 to make it work. Does any one out there has any suggestions? I had 1.44 and installed 1.49 over 1.44. I noticed the icons' color are all lighter shade -- "Get New Mail" is light sea blue, "Send Queue Mail" is light green, etc. Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received". However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in the program.] Then I try to send a test message. The dialog box appears, and the graphic bar went from 0 to 100%; then the dialogbox disappears. The "sent" message appears in the Sent folder; but I didn't get it in my other account. No error message. So I uninstalled TheBat; and reinstalled it. No change. Same problems. I tried installing 1.48f. Same problems. When I reinstalled 1.44 over 1.49, everything works. I am using Win95a, if it makes any difference; no virus programs, no firewalls running in the background. Any possible diagnosis? If I can't get any answers here, where can I go? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
v1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
This is my 2nd try. Still can't install 1.49 to make it work. Does any one out there has any suggestions? -- I had 1.44 and installed 1.49 over 1.44. I noticed the icons' color are all lighter shade -- "Get New Mail" is light sea blue, "Send Queue Mail" is light green, etc. Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message received". However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in the program.] Then I try to send a test message. The dialog box appears, and the graphic bar went from 0 to 100%; then the dialogbox disappears. The "sent" message appears in the Sent folder; but I didn't get it in my other account. No error message. So I uninstalled TheBat; and reinstalled it. No change. Same problems. I tried installing 1.48f. Same problems. When I reinstalled 1.44 over 1.49, everything works. I am using Win95a, if it makes any difference; no virus programs, no firewalls running in the background. Any possible diagnosis? If I can't get any answers here, where else can I go to get this to work? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 === End === -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: v1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
Monday, January 22, 2001, Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello net5zero!
On Monday, January 22, 2001 at 9:48:31 AM you wrote:
Then when I try to retrieve mail. The dialog box appear briefly, then
disappear -- with no new messages after 24 hours since my last
retrieval. The Log Panel displayed "connection finished - 0 message
received". However, theBat NEVER asked me for the password, although it
was set to do that on every retrieval. [I don't save my password in
the program.]
They changed the password handling in 1.49. Go to
Account/Properties/Transport/Receive Mail/Authentication. there check
the box at the lower end ("Do not store..").
Your problem should now be fixed. I had the same and we found this
way. Just not entering a password is not enough to not store it. TB!
will store the password you enter on your first POP trial. If you
mistype you will never get mail again ... luck you! ;-)
By "first POP trial", I assume you mean the first POP *after* installing
1.49. If correct, it never asked for my password and there4 I never
entered it -- after I installed 1.49.
Thanks in advance
JM
Using The Bat! 1.44
Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950
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Re[2]: v1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
Tuesday, January 23, 2001, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:29:19 -0500 GMT (23/01/2001, 04:29 +0800 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By "first POP trial", I assume you mean the first POP *after* installing 1.49. If correct, it never asked for my password and there4 I never entered it -- after I installed 1.49. What are your exact settings under Account / Properties / Transport / Receive Mail, and what is behind the corresponding Authentication button? No, you don't need to tell us your passwort g. We assume you have double-checked it. But do tell us where it is filled in. And all the other stuff, including tickmarks. I am back to 1.44 (since I can't use TheBat in 1.49 until the problem is solved); and I have no authentication set for POP. When I installed 1.49, I never change any of these settings. So the settings for 1.49 was the same as 1.44. Receive Mail -- POP server is pop.netzero.net (but I am connected to earthlink.net when I launch TheBat); the password is blank (so I have to type it in every time). The only tickmark is "Combined delivery". Also, what does your logfile say? Please let us have all lines for a FETCH. I don't have that anymore. But I remember looking at the log panel at that time, and it said "connection finished - 0 message received". I'll reinstall 1.49 tomorrow, and report back. IMHO something is weird in your settings, because obviously everybody else can read their mail. Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: v1.49 -- can't receive nor receive mail
Tuesday, January 23, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesday, January 23, 2001, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:29:19 -0500 GMT (23/01/2001, 04:29 +0800 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. I don't have that anymore. But I remember looking at the log panel at that time, and it said "connection finished - 0 message received". I'll reinstall 1.49 tomorrow, and report back. IMHO something is weird in your settings, because obviously everybody else can read their mail. It is working now. Yes, it is im my settings. In my old settings, I added DDD to my username; and I deleted that manually. When the new version installed, it picked up the username with the DDD. Separately, the default setting for the password is saved. I think that is real bad default -- for security reason -- esp. because the default setting is "hidden/not in plain view" and for the newbie/upgrader that is not aware of it. Thanks for your patience. JM Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
V1.49
Since I upgraded to 1.49 (from 1.44), I find that the functioning of TheBat is much slower. Clicking on Account Filter or the New Message icon takes much longer than it use to in 1.44. Is that the case with everyone? Or it is just my system? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How do I read in a file
How do I read a text file on my hard drive into my New message that I am writing -- so that I don't have to open the text file, then copy and paste? I don't want to attach the file. Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: [PGP-Basics] TheBat! 1.49 -- No signing S/MIME Certificate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, January 28, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a name in my address book that has a templates with %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE %SIGNCOMPLETE macros -- so that the message to this person will be automatically signed and encrypted. Since I upgraded to TheBat 1.49, when I try to send a message to this person, I get "No signing S/MIME Certificate for [me, the sender]". I have a macro for this mailing list to automaticaly PGP sign the message. As I am sending this message from another account, I find that I get the same error message -- with the "Enable S/MIME" checked. So I have to turn of "enable S/MIME" before I can send this message -- without changing the macro to automatically sign this message. So the problem sppears to be with the macros. What do I need to do to avoid that error message? How do I get a S/MIME Certificate? And what does S/MIME do? Does it encrypt attachments automatically? The account's properties -- under Options -- has "Enable S/MIME" checked. I have to uncheck that option in order to send message to this particular person. I have no problem in sending message for this same account to another person and manually encrypt the message. Can someone tell me what is wrong here? Thanks in advance JM Thanks in advance JM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOnnorBnO7aCC6ZbmEQJdywCdENbZxL9v+KQTsMP3H1niToYIbEYAoMU7 fsB2JhdLbGTLYEC8fVb/fopY =AUp3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Deleting messages
1. Is there a way to delete messages without having them going to the Trash folder (then you have to purge and compress the trash folder)? 2. I have a mailing list that is cumulating over 4,000 messages. I decided to delete them since I don't have time to read them. It took over 10 minutes on my slow p133. What is worse, during the deletion, TheBat hogs my entire cpu -- i.e. I could NOT do anything else on the computer. Is that the way TheBat works? Is there an option in TheBat or Windows (Win95) that I can turn on to make that process a background process ?? Now, the same thing might happen when I exit TheBat since I have set it to "empty trash on exit". Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.51 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How to tie an address book to an account?
I sent this on July 6th, but I haven't seen it on the list. So I'll try again. I have two address books. I have one address book that I want to tie to a specific account. Then I would like to set the other address book as defaults for all other accounts. I think that is an feature in this v1.53. But how do I do that? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.53d Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: How to tie an address book to an account?
Monday, July 09, 2001, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 01:37:32 -0400GMT (09/07/2001, 13:37 +0800GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nnn I have two address books. I have one address book that I want to nnn tie to a specific account. Account / Properties / General / Default address book. I have address book A and B. Which one does the default address book refer to -- A ? OR B ? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.53d Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
8-bit characters
Under Account Properties Mail Management, on 8-bit characters' treatment: 1. What are 8-bit characters? 2. What is the difference between without changes and quote-printable? TIA Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?
And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do the two version have the same file formats? With respect to attachments (in Account Properties), is it better to keep it in separate folders or in message bodies? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?
Thursday, October 30, 2003, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:37:02 -0500 GMT (30/10/2003, 16:37 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do the two version have the same file formats? The file formats are the same, but the folder structure is maintained in another file now. So if you add/move/delete a folder in one version, the change will not be refelcted in the other. After installing v2 and receive/send some mail in it -- assuming I did NOT add/move/delete a folder in v2 -- then I decide to go back to v1.62, will I be able to access all my messages, INCLUDING those send/received during my trial of v2, in v1.62 ?? Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is there a way to filter messages with Base64 coding?
If yes, how? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 8-bit characters
Thursday, October 30, 2003, Vasiliy Efimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 October 2003, at 04:19 -0500 you wrote: nnn 1. What are 8-bit characters? Is a none Latin alphabet characters. For example, 8 bit characters are Cyrillic letters: , , , , , , , (I don't sure that you are able to see this letters properly). If I get a message is Japanese, can I view it in TB 1.62? If so, what do I need to do? TIA nnn 2. What is the difference between without changes and nnn quote-printable? If set without changes then in body of your mail 7-bit symbols and 8-bit symbols will be unchanged. Example: --- This is 7-bit symbols. 8-bit . --- And if you set quote-printable then 7-bit symbols will be unchanged and 8-bit symbols will be converted as in follow example: --- This is 7-bit symbols. =DD=F2=EE 8-bit =F1=E8=EC=E2=EE=EB=FB. --- Also you can set 64 bit encoding and then either 7-bit and 8-bit symbols will be changed in the follow form: --- VGhpcyBpcyA3LWJpdCBzeW1ib2xzLg0K3fLuIDgtYml0IPHo7OLu6/suDQo= --- I hope you understood me :) -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: 8-bit characters
Friday, October 31, 2003, Vasiliy Efimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello net5zero, On 31 October 2003, at 00:23 -0500 you wrote: nnn If I get a message is Japanese, can I view it in TB 1.62? If so, what nnn do I need to do? Sorry, about Japanese I don't know. How about messages in any other foreign language. I am just using Japanese as an example. The foreign-language messages would be gibberish in English. Can I view that message in The Bat! in the language of the message? If yes, how? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purchased v2 - how do i get it - Changed to Signature Delimiter
Saturday, November 01, 2003, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:01:27 -0700 GMT (01/11/2003, 23:01 +0700 GMT), Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: I've never heard of the signature delimiter you describe above. Is this a custom or requirement for The Bat mailing list? It's an internet standard adopted by TB. If you use the sig delimiter, everything below it will be cut off in a reply. There are other advantages if you use the rich-text viewer in TB. As it happens, with my normal signature (which I didn't use for the email I sent with my question but which I have included below), I do have a double dash after my name and before my company information. It was done originally for aesthetic purposes, not for the reason you describe. It's dash-dash-space-enter, not just double-dash. However, it seems inappropriate, to me, to put the double dash *before* my name because then it separates my name from what I've written, and that interrupts the flow of the correspondence. It's like signing one's name on a separate sheet of paper when writing something by hand. There are two different philosophies about the sig delimiter. One is to set it below your name, and this comes from the usenet: some clients have the option to not show what is below it. TB can be set that way, too. Where do you set this option in v1.62? Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: spam rule for more accounts
Monday, November 03, 2003, Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TB I used to use this method and did have a couple of rather comprehensive TB lists I used to filter on. They must be in a 2 or 3 year old backup on a TB CD somewhere but I wouldn't know where to start to look. I found them if you want them. Can I have a copy also? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: spam rule for more accounts
Monday, November 03, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lex, @3-Nov-2003, 16:30 Lex Thoonen [LT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP Yes, he's talking about Selective Download filters. They can MDP be driven by filed lists of trigger words/addresses. A lot of the spams nowadays are either BASE64 coded or the words are broken with html coding. How do you folks filter these messages? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
